Dear Chelsea - Minisode: Poly Kewl with Chelsea + Catherine

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

Chelsea and Catherine discover the origin of the name Ray J and solve geographical conundrums for the polycule.  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Execut...ive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Nice. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, everyone. This is Teddy Mellencamp. And Tamara Judge from Two T's in a Pod. There's been one scandal that's consumed our lives these last couple of months. We're recapping the three-part Summer House reunion.
Starting point is 00:00:45 And as always, we're being brutally honest. We're dissecting timelines, receipts, blind items, and previous episodes. Amanda and Wes, watch out. We're not going to be easy on you. Listen to two T's in a pod on the I-Heart Revenue. Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets on the Eyeheart. Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:35 June is Black Music Month, and on the Drink Chams podcast, we're speaking with the hottest names in the culture, like Sway Lee. Do you realize how legendary you are? I appreciate that. I'd be seeing it, but I'm like, man, I still got, like, so much more to do. Like, Prince, he dropped, like, 30 albums. We dropped, like, five right now. That's the rate we got to be going.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yep, that's a good attitude. No matter the era, Drink Chams brings you the biggest names and the most unfiltered conversations. Listen to Drink Chams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, guys, here are my dates for the High and Mighty Tour. In June, I will be in Saratoga Springs, New York, Portchester, New York. I'm coming to Boston at the Wang Theater. I'll be in Portland, Oregon, Seattle, and then Hyannis, Massachusetts, and then two shows in Nantucket. In August, you can find me in Red Bank, New Jersey, Montclair, New Jersey, and Kinsey.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Calgary, that's Canada. And September, I will be in Santa Barbara, San Diego, New York City, Philly, and New Haven, Connecticut. October is Atlanta, Baltimore, Saginaw, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boise, Idaho, and Spokane. And then in November, I'll be in San Francisco. I'm coming to Salt Lake City, Austin, Houston, Dallas, babies, I'll be there. And then in December, I am closing out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So get your tickets at Chelsea Handler. for the high and mighty tour.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Hi, Catherine. Hi, Chelsea. Hello, hello. What's happening? It's very exciting seeing you get a new dog. I know, I know. There's a new dog on the premises who I've named Ray J. He looks like Bert and Bernice.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I know, he does. He looks, and he was in a shelter. So now Doug, I wanted Doug to have a brother. And I think Doug knew exactly what is happening. And it's like, uh, what? It's like, wait a minute. This dog isn't leaving. He's like, wait.
Starting point is 00:03:31 He's not having the reaction, I thought, but that's okay. Ray J is starting to dry hump, Doug. And Doug is finally on the receiving end of dry hump. So let's see how he handles this. And apparently Ray J. needs to be potty trained. So this house is probably going to have to be replaced again. Mabel's going to have her work cut out for her.
Starting point is 00:03:50 You're going to need to get a black light. That's key. Sometimes you can smell it, but you can't see it. So, yeah, you got to get a... I definitely want a black light. Okay, that's good to know. Okay, great. Well, I have, this is sort of a follow-up from a caller, but it's sort of a double follow-up here. So I don't know if you remember Sarah, who had written in on the Tim Gunn episode and she was going through cancer and was sort of like, how much of myself do I want to give back while I'm going through this?
Starting point is 00:04:15 And that was Sarah. So after that episode went out, Emily reached out and said, hey, there, I've been a Chelsea fan since college and a loyal podcast listener for years. I was listening to the Tim Gunn episode from 219, coincidentally also my 40th birthday, and was floored by Sarah's question about finding purpose and how much to share after a cancer diagnosis. I was diagnosed with rare neck cancer last August. It's been an intense few months of physical, emotional, mental, spiritual turmoil, as you can imagine. Anyway, I've been thinking about writing into the show to ask the exact same question. It's something I ask my own actual therapist, no offense to Chelsea, all the time. How do I make something out of this?
Starting point is 00:04:54 How much do I keep to myself? Do I want to be the cancer lesson girl? Or do I want to just be treated like everybody else? I wrote this email in my head a million times, but was always too hesitant to send it. And now Sarah beat me to the punch. Her story and Chelsea's response were both really meaningful. And so she goes on to ask, like if I can connect them, so I got those two gals connected, but just wanted to say, also expressed gratitude that you covered her story on the pod.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Thanks for all you do. I'm going to figure out a new fun question and write in sometime best, Emily. So I reached out to Sarah. as well and she updated me and just said thanks for passing this along i finally listened to the episode last night it took me a minute to get up the courage to listen to myself it was so helpful to hear chelsea and tim's advice again and thank you for asking me to share something i would like to pass on i was also impressed by the words from my past self i need to channel her more often um so yeah they're planning to get together but i just thought that was really sweet and cool and and also just a reminder that if
Starting point is 00:05:51 you're thinking about writing in about something and you're not sure if it's quite right? Like someone else probably also has that question. Yeah, sometimes you spark a lot of other, or you spark another listener to call in or reach out. Yeah, I got a cute, yeah, DM in the last night that was like, this is a result of Chelsea Handler's online dating series. And they were in a park together, two women in a park having a bottle of wine. And I thought, so I reposted it. It was so sweet. I was like, oh, so I love when people connect vis-a-vis the podcast or, or any of the stuff that, you know, we're doing. And it is a good way for you to connect with people because you already have something in common. Right. Exactly. So if you want to write in, write into Dear Chelsea
Starting point is 00:06:32 Podcast at gmail.com. We're always looking for new questions. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart. I-R. Radio. Canada's number one streaming app for radio and podcasts, including IHart Pride Canada, your favorite hits and must-have party bangers, plus personalized and curated Playlists like back in the day pride Come together celebrate love Take pride with you anytime Anywhere Just ask your smart speaker to play IHart Pride
Starting point is 00:07:03 Canada stream us on your phone Or listen now at iHeartRadio.ca Hey it's us to Jonas Brothers and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas.
Starting point is 00:07:17 We invented a podcast? Well we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down in my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
Starting point is 00:07:57 and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Keith Gianmanca seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly, he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree.
Starting point is 00:08:21 At the time did it seem like, like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong on what that might look like? No, I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you saw it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of family secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Each week, we dive head first into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. my daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him. Listen to season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We have a caller. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Are you ready? So Hannah says, hi, Chelsea and team. I'd love your advice on something I'm working through. I recently fell in love and my partner has completely shifted my perspective on life. I feel more myself and more aligned than ever, which has been incredible. The complicated part is that my partner lives in NYC and I live in Utah. We've talked about moving to either state. He is sick of NYC. I'm sick of Utah. And while I love NYC, I'm not sure I can afford it right now. I also just started a job here in Utah that I absolutely love and working remotely is usually pretty tough on my mental health. Another layer to this is that I'm
Starting point is 00:10:53 polyamorous. And I also have another partner here in Utah who's quite a bit older than me. He's 60. I'm 32. But he's incredibly special to me. That relationship has made the moving decision even more emotionally complicated because I care deeply about both relationships and the different lives they represent. I feel torn between love, career, stability, and my sense of belonging. Part of me wants a completely new chapter and another part of me feels grounded by what I've built here. What would you do? Thanks so much for any guidance, Hannah. Hi, Anna. Hi. So I'm assuming your New York lover knows about your Utah lover, right? Yeah, because I both know about each other.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And so are you and your New York lover? He's polyamorous as well? Yes. Okay. Right now he doesn't really have any, like, serious partners. He's seeing a couple people kind of casually, but nothing serious. And how does he feel about your tug to stay in Utah part of the reason being your other partner? Probably not great.
Starting point is 00:11:49 He can get a little jealous of the partner in Utah. a little bit. He was, he comes out to Utah every winter, which is nice. So he was here recently from December to May. Oh. So it's almost like I don't want to move my whole life to New York because he's here sometimes for a long period of time. But. Well, I mean, how many years has this been going on? Like is there, is there a need to make a change? Like, why not keep it rolling the way it's going? Um, I've been seeing him for two years and seeing the partner in Utah for one year. I think he just really wants me to come out to New York. Yeah, he just, like, really wants it to happen.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And also, I've always wanted to move to New York. I also have, like, a vintage resale styling business on the side. And I feel like every time I go visit him in New York, I get new jobs and meet new connections. And it's really nice. But I also have a really cush set up here in Salt Lake. I have a big house that I can run my business out of and I can keep a lot of inventory here. I just don't think it would be the same in New York. Right. Okay. So, and if you did go to New York, would you keep your Utah lover?
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yes. Yeah. Hopefully. Yeah. And do, okay, so you do have a desire to move to New York and you don't want to live together. Yeah, I don't want to live together. We have talked about like maybe me living, him coming out in the winters and then me moving to New York in the summers and living in his department for like four months. Yeah, sure. Switching off because my Utah guy also lives part time in Maui. kind of time things right if I try. I like that idea. Yeah. That's a good idea because that way you're not investing in some sort of, you know what I mean? You're not putting money down for a place to live.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And that way you can test out seeing how you guys operate when you're coexisting. And that way you can remain having the best of both worlds. And you can also try out your business while you're there. Yeah. Yeah. True. I think I'm just scared of living in such a small apartment. even when I've lived with other partners, I have my own bedroom. This is like a one bedroom. It's in a nice
Starting point is 00:13:55 area, but yeah, right. I think that's a good way to ease into it to spend a way, you know, commit to spending a winter down there and having him come out, or sorry, summer and then winter in whichever order. I think that's great to try that and see how that works out. I mean, that's like giving it a, you know, a run. Yeah, that can work. It's an easy way to dip your toe in the water without, as Chelsea said, like moving all your stuff and committing to like even a rental space for your business, which might be separate from the house, et cetera. And so is there an opportunity for you to also go out to Hawaii to see Utah lover when they're out there?
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah. I mean, this summer I'm going to see them in July. So I'll go out there for like a week. It's really nice. My work at least has unlimited PTO and they also will let me work remotely. I just do terrible working remotely to be so honest. I don't stay on task as well. as I should.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Ah, I see. I was going to say from the social aspect, I was curious what Chelsea thinks about, like, working remotely but being in a bustling city like New York, do you feel like that sort of equals out versus, like, being in Utah where it's like a little slower pace and you're working from home? Yeah, I don't know. I think I'm just more nervous about just finances because it's not like I would move into his apartment and I just get to live rent-free.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Sure. And I know he lives in, like, a very nice. area and in order to keep the house like spot that I have here in Utah, I'd have to keep paying that rent, even though it's little to nothing. My mom actually owns this house. I live here with my brother and we just pay the mortgage. It would just be kind of like difficult to afford both. But it would be more difficult to get, oh, you mean, like what are your other options to sell the place in Utah? You're not going to sell it because your brother lives there too, right? Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't sell it. I would just have somebody rent out my room.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And can you do that as a sublet for like the four months that you would be in New York for summer? I could have to really try that. A subletting is not as popular here as New York. Sure. Well, I think you should just take it like I think you should try the exercise in the way that is the most beneficial to you for the first year and see how that works out. And then you can make a bigger commitment if it all works out successfully. Yeah, that's good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I mean, it's great. It's awesome. It's like these are goals. It is kind of like the best of both worlds because even if the end result isn't that you move to New York City and that's where you live, you get to like have like a timeshare house. Like you get to be a bunch of different places. It's a little bit like the benefits of polyamory, right? You get to experience different experiences, different people. And this is sort of like, okay, you are sort of bicostal in a way if you decide to do this.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And like different cities bring different things to the table for sure. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart. IR. Radio, Canada's number one streaming app for radio and podcasts, including IHart Pride Canada, your favorite hits and must have party bangers, plus personalized and curated playlists like back in the day pride. Come together, celebrate love. Take pride with you anytime, anywhere.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Just ask your smart speaker to play IHart Pride Canada. Stream us on your phone or listen now at iHeartRadio.ca. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
Starting point is 00:17:28 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally. calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Keith Giamanka seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly, he became someone else,
Starting point is 00:18:27 a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong or what that might look like? No. I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets.
Starting point is 00:18:58 But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man.
Starting point is 00:19:19 the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you saw it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. And just then, we felt the plain turn in the air, so much so that the bags that were under people's seats just kind of flew into the aisle.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Each week, we dive headfirst into the complex power of secrecy, how it shapes our identities and relationships, and how it ultimately can reveal to us our truest selves. My daughter, she's pretending she doesn't know, but is trying to cook and feed me and keep me alive because I wasn't eating anything, and me pretending like everything was fine. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And he went out the front door, and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him. Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Does that feel like it solves the crux of your question, or is there something still nagging? I think it does. I mean, it just makes things tricky with polyamory. Like, I worry, like, when will I get to talk to the guy here?
Starting point is 00:20:43 How does that work? Like, just, you know, a small apartment. But, I mean, I'm willing to try. You know, you're not going to know those hurdles. and how you handle them unless you actually go out and try it. Yeah, and there's no harm in just trying to like set up guidelines for that, for both of you to be like, okay, this is, let's be practical. I'm going to talk to my other guy, you know, on however frequently you want to.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And what is the most comfortable way to do that? Is that something that I need to get out of the house for? Is that something you're going to feel comfortable with me doing? Or should I do that while you're at work? Like, just figure out guidelines before you go into both of these situations that are going to make everyone feel comfortable and respected. that makes sense. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Awesome. Well, great for you. Check in with us. Yeah. I know you're like hot. You're going to different cities. You're dating lots of people. That's great.
Starting point is 00:21:31 It's been great so far. So yeah. All right. Awesome. Thanks for calling in. Okay. Check in with us, Hannah. Well, do.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Bye. Bye. And then we've got one little one drink question to wrap up with Chelsea. I feel like I know. I feel like I know what you're going to say to this. But our one drink question this week is, my friend returned a gift. I spent weeks picking out.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I searched for the perfect thing, and they said they'd rather have the money. Am I wrong for feeling hurt? No. No, you're not wrong for feeling hurt, but who gives a shit? You know, at the end of the day, these are not the things that are going to keep you up at night. It's obnoxious to I want the money instead, but you know, maybe she's just tight on cash and she needs the cash. I feel like that friend shouldn't have said they just wanted that money. But whatever, it's just not a big enough deal to, like, get your panties in a twist.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah. Just remember for next time. don't go out of your way looking so hard for a gift for her. Yeah. Oh, and also, folks, write in with one drink questions. If you have little shorties that are sort of a yes or no or like you need Chelsea to fall on one side or the other of a discussion you've been having with your spouse or whatever, write in and label it a one drink question. Awesome. Thanks, guys. Bye. If you want advice from Chelsea, write in to Dear Chelsea Podcast at gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Dear Chelsea is a production of IHeartMedia. Follow Chelsea on all socials at Chelsea. and find Catherine on TikTok at Flash Kadabra. Dear Chelsea is edited and engineered by Brandon Dickert, executive producer Catherine Law. Find full video episodes and minisodes now on Netflix and get tickets to see Chelsea Live at Chelseahandler.com. Hey, guys, it's us.
Starting point is 00:23:06 The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
Starting point is 00:23:17 We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask. other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, everyone. This is Teddy Mellencamp.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And Tamara Judge from two T's in a pod. There's been one scandal that's consumed our lives these last couple of months. We're recapping the three parts summer house reunion. And as always, we're being rudely honest. We're dissecting timelines, receipts, blind items, and previous episodes. Amanda and Wes, watch out. We're not getting to be easy on you. Listen to two T's in a pod on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your husband is not who you think he is.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move. And he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off. And that was the last time I saw him.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Listen to Season 14 of Family Secrets on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For years, the Un-Housed have been presented as a monolith in mainstream media. Gweedian House is a podcast that's changing the narrative. I'm Theo Henderson, and I created the show why I was unhoused on the streets of Los Angeles. We've grown into a two-time Webby Award-winning podcast, the only podcast that shares unhoused stories and news from the unhoused perspective. Listen to Weezy and Housed on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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