Dear Chelsea - Minisode: Stay Out of the Forest with Chelsea + Catherine

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

Chelsea and Catherine go on a book roundup filled with giants, sisterhood, and the deep, dark woods.  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We've here, since everyone has a podcast, we wanted to as well. And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It was the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can be about food.

You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. For years, the unhoused have been presented as a monolith in mainstream media. Whedian House is a podcast that's changing the narrative. I'm Theo Henderson, and I created the show why I was unhoused on the streets of Los Angeles. We've grown into a two-time Webby Award-winning podcast. The only podcast that shares unhoused stories and news from the unhoused perspective.

Listen to Wey and House on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, guys, here are my dates for the High and Mighty Tour. In June, I will be in Hyannis, Massachusetts, and then two shows in Nantucket. In August, you can find me in Red Bank, New Jersey, Montclair, New Jersey, and Calgary. That's Canada. And September, I will be in Santa Barbara, San Diego, New York City, Philly, and New Haven, Connecticut. October is Atlanta, Baltimore, Saginaw, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boise, Idaho, and Spokane. And then in November, I'll be in San Francisco.

I'm coming to Salt Lake City, Austin, Houston, Dallas, babies, I'll be there. And then in December, I am closing out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So get your tickets at Chelseahandler.com for the high and... and mighty tour. Hi, Catherine. Dougie, come over here. Hi, Chelsea. Come up here, Dougie.

Come around. Come around. You thinking about it? He's a very thoughtful guy. He only does what he wants to do. I love like on camera. He just looks like a void moving through the room. There he is.

That's my baby. Who's my beautiful baby? He did get black again. I know you had said he turned brown. No. And now he's, I feel that he's black again. I love you so bad. Night down.

Yeah. Go it down. Good boy. I'm glad he lets you snuggle him, even though he doesn't snuggle at night. I know. But he's getting better. He understands that there's a price to pay if he doesn't give me what I want. Chelsea, let's talk about books.

Okay. I've read a bunch of books lately. I have some good book recommendations. Okay. Do you want to start? Do you want me to sprinkle him in? Sure. Sure.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, one that I have been reading. that I just read recently that I super duper loved. I realize like the three that I thought to talk about today are all set deep in the woods. This first one, I think that you would actually really, really love.

It's fiction. There's like a tiny bit of magical realism in it, but not a ton. Magical realism. Not a ton. But it is called... It's called Northwoods. It's by Daniel Mason. And it's all set in New England at this house that's built like sort of maybe in the 1700s and it's the history of this house and all the different people who live there throughout the like decades and generations. It's really cool.

I really, really loved it. It's beautifully written. Okay. It kind of like moves along pretty quickly. I really liked it. Okay. Do you have fitness and wellness questions? Well, Chelsea's personal trainer, Ben Bruno, is about to guest on an episode.

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I was terrified. There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. That was your first murder case? Yes, sir. Fear to say this was the biggest case of your career?

Yes, sir. Rape a murder for a young 12-year-old child. As bad as it gets. I would think so. People wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Krivac and DePippo. Anthony DePippe.

showed no signs of remorse, appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum. I said, I'm not guilty. I'll take it to the grief. Listen to the devil's quarry on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the Devil's Quarry ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Love for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. Together, we're going to have meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people. Like when actress Olivia Munn shared how she overcame fierce health challenges. I've gone through breast cancer and then helped my mother through breast cancer,

and that was more difficult. There's a lot of people who understand postpartner depression. I was not prepared for postpartum anxiety. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, listen up. The Jonas Brothers here. Our podcast is called, Hey Jonas. since everyone has a podcast, we want it to as well.

And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It's the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can't be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done.

You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. What else you got? A couple other ones that I really loved. I just finished one called The Cold Vanish. It's by... Yeah, these all do sound like they take place in the woods.

Truly, they're all in the woods. I think I need to, like, go be in the woods. Like, I think I'm finding, I think I need to be... I need to go, maybe not camping. I need to go to, like, a beautiful place in the woods. On a lake, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somewhere with lots of trails.

Yes. So that you can see the snakes before they see you. Yes. This is called The Cold Vanish. It's by John Billman. And this, if, like, anybody likes true crime, it's perfect for that because it's a journalist. who has written a ton of stuff for Outside Magazine,

and he follows a bunch of these cases of missing persons in America's National Parks. And he specifically works with some of the families to try and find their loved ones or, like, as they search. And it's just really beautiful storytelling, all true stories, and I really liked that. And then... Is it descriptive?

Yes. That's what would surprise me the most is I expected it to be a little bit drier, but it's very... the writing is very evocative. It's beautiful writing and it's interesting writing. And his turns of phrase are always kind of surprising. And I really like when a writer does that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then the third one that I have to recommend is called The Stranger in the Woods. Oh, God. We're just in the woods. It's called The Extraordinary Story of the Last True Hermit. And it's by Michael Finkel.

I listened to this one in the book on tape, which I would recommend. Let me call that audiobooks now. But I would recommend it because the person, person in question, the hermit in question, does have this sort of mainer accent. And it's nonfiction. So it's all about this guy who just like in the 80s like wandered off into the woods and then just lived there for like 25 years and would go into people's cabins in the wintertime like take stuff, but like not too much. And he was always very respectful. But he was like they knew there was a hermit out there who was just like the man in the woods. And so eventually things come to light.

I understand how people go and live in the woods. And that's it. Me either. Me either. either. And then what happens the next day? What are they eating branches? Like what are they killing rabbits? Like what are they? He like learned how to exist in the woods in such a secretive way that he could like not leave footprints. He was basically like really close to all these different houses and cabins and stuff. But like no one really knew where he was. No one ever found his camp. He never talked to anybody. So he was like a person who really truly just wanted to be alone. To be alone in the woods. Yeah. It's the exact opposite. Yeah. I like the alone part but not the woods part.

Right. I don't want to be alone in the woods. I actually want a guide. A woods guide. So I'm going to take you back out of the woods. Okay. I just read, I've read three books. I read. The first one is called The Correspondent, which has been going around. Yes. That's the one Jane Fonda signed on to do. It's written by Virginia Evans. And that is a real page turner. Have you read that yet? No, I haven't. She's writing letters, right? Yeah, it's epistolary, actually. That's the style of writing, which is letter writing. I learned that because I saw Mindy Kaling on a podcast. podcast talking about it on a clip on Instagram and she was saying her favorite they said what's your

favorite type of writing and she wrote epistolary that's when they write letters I had no idea what that word meant so I was like wow I like that you know how I love learning words so epistolary yeah so this book is all about this woman and her letters to people and their letters back to her family members love interest children family friends and she's an older woman and she's got a lot of chutzpa and she's got a lot of opinions and she's in she's got her nose in a lot of people's business I like it. I like that. She's very much an interloper. Okay. So I identify. Is it modern day? Is that modern day? Yes, it is. It's contemporary. And then this book, my friend Juliana, she sends me all my books,

Juliana Margulian Marguiles, Life and Death and Giants by Ron Rindo. So this is a novel. This takes place. I don't want to give anything away, but this book is, this is what I love about books. Is I want to be introduced to things I know nothing about. And I don't want to only read things that are of interest to me. I like to read things that have nothing to do with me or nothing to do with any of my interests. This book has nothing to do with there's Amish people, there's farm life, there's a giant in the book. Oh, wait, is this kind of about the giant that they found in that field, the quote unquote giant? I forget what it's called. He was a wrestler. He became, it's like loosely based on a true story about this kid who sprang to,

become a giant and became a wrestler. Like he was a professional wrestler. Anyway, he lives this crazy life because of his size and because of his strength and because of his power and his physical strength and his power. And so he just ends up living this kind of crazy life, but he was born to this Amish mother. And then his, it's just like a world that I would never delve into. So in complete honesty, it's not a book that I was like, oh my God, I've got to rip the pages open. But like the correspondent, I was like, I tore through that in three days. This took me a little bit longer, but I do really appreciate being exposed to the things in life that I'm not that interested in.

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In the moment, it felt like it was going on forever. I didn't think I was going to live. I was terrified. There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. That was your first murder case?

Yes, sir. Fear to say this was the biggest case of your career? Yes, sir. Rape a murder for a child. Just as bad as it gets. I would think so. Evil, wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder

take place by Crevette and DePippo. Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse. appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum. I said I'm not guilty. I'll take it to the grief. Listen to the devil's quarry on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the devil's quarry ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Love for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Hey, I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby.

Together, we're going to have meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people. Like when actress Olivia Munn shared how she overcame fierce health challenges. I've gone through breast cancer and then helped my mother through breast cancer. And that was more difficult. There's a lot of people who understand postpartner depression. I was not prepared for postpartum anxiety. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, listen up. The Jonas Brothers here. Our podcast is called, Hey Jonas. We've here since everyone has a podcast, we wanted to as well. And we've had some incredible guest so far. And now our good friend

Nile Horn is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It's the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can't be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart

Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. And now this next book is called Kinn by Tyari Jones. This is one of Oprah's book clubs. Oprah has the best books. She always picks the best books because they're deep, they're meaningful. And this is about two young girls who grew up in Louisiana.

They both are motherless. And they kind of go off in different directions. One goes to college in Atlanta at Spelman. And this other girl goes on and lives in Mississippi for a while. Then she moves to Tennessee. Anyway, these two girls just kind of diverge. And then their lives kind of come back together. And you see the different shapes their lives have taken.

This took a while for me to get into. It took me about like 100 pages. And then I was in, and there are some turns of phrase in here that, I mean, there's a chapter in here that had me hysterically crying when I went to bed the other night. I just was bawling. It was so beautifully written and it's so profound and meaningful and just this relationship and this girl's bond that they had because they were cradle sisters, they call it. Well, they really were. They like, you know, they were in the crib together. And just their bond and like the bond between women. that go through life together and then kind of keep showing up for each other at all of the different turns that you can show up for each other was really moving. And their dedication and devotion to each other was really moving and powerful. And the writing is beautiful there. So I mean, I wrote down, I underlined a bunch in the book because there was just such beautiful writing. But of course, I didn't earmark any of the pages, so I'd have to go through it. But it's definitely worth reading.

It's called Kin. And that's one of Oprah's books. Yeah. So those are three books I've read in the last couple weeks. Awesome. Excellent. The word of the week is evocative. Evocative. Adjective. Intending to bring out an especially emotional response. Chelsea uses evocative language when reading straight white men. Evocative. If you want advice from Chelsea, write into Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail.com. Dear Chelsea is a production of iHeartMedia. Follow Chelsea on all socials at Chelsea Handler and find Find Catherine on TikTok at Flashcadabra. Dear Chelsea is edited and engineered by Brandon Dickert,

executive producer Catherine Law. Find full video episodes and minisodes now on Netflix and get tickets to see Chelsea Live at Chelseahandler.com. There was no anything inside those eyes. They turned black. It scared the hell out of me. Evil, wake up. I'm the one that saw the murder take place by Crevette and Dipippo.

Anthony DePippo showed no signs of remorse, appearing unfazed after being sentenced to the maximum. I said, I'm not guilty. I'll take it to the grief. Listen to the devil's quarry in the Bone Valley Feed on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Joy is essential, and it's also elusive. But now, there's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence. Joy 101. It's a new podcast hosted by me, Hoda Kotby.

If you're craving inspiration to maximize your joy, tune into these candid, uplifting, and moving on-air chats. Open your free IHeart Radio app. Search Joy 101 and listen now. Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby is presented by CVS. All right, listen up. The Jonas Brothers here. Our podcast is called Hey Jonas.

We've here since everyone has a podcast, we want it to as well. And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend Nile Horn is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It was the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can be about food.

You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. For years, the Un-Hawes have been presented as a monolith in mainstream media. Weedian House is a podcast that's changing the narrative. I'm Theo Henderson, and I created the show why I was unhoused on the streets of Los Angeles. We've grown into a two-time Webby Award-winning podcast,

the only podcast that shares unhoused stories and news from the unhoused perspective. Listen to Weythian House on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Thank you.