Dear Chelsea - Not a Loser with Amanda Seyfried

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

Amanda Seyfried (The Housemaid, The Testament of Ann Lee) joins Chelsea to talk about auditioning for Wicked, mucking stalls on her farm in the Catskills, and why she’ll never do a stage play ag...ain.  Then: A wedding in Bali threatens to go off the rails when an evil stepmother needs to be disinvited.   And a florist falls in love with an Ecuadorian rose merchant and wrestles with following her head or her heart.  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:09 I'm coming to Washington, D.C., Norfolk, Virginia, Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Detroit, Michigan, Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati, Ohio, Denver, Colorado, Portland, Maine, Providence, Rhode Island, Springfield, Massachusetts, Chicago, of course, Indianapolis, Indiana, Louisville, Kentucky. Albuquerque, Mesa, Arizona, Kansas City, Missouri, St. Louis, Missouri, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Nashville, Tennessee, Charlotte, North Carolina, Durham, North Carolina, Saratoga, California, Monterey, California, Modesto, California, and Portchester, New York, Boston, Massachusetts, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington. I will be touring from February through June, so go get your tickets now. If you want to come see me perform, I will be on the high and mighty tour. Hi, Catherine. Hi, Chelsea. Is it still raining in Whistler? Well, it's raining in the valley. It snowed. I got up at midnight because Doug woke me up because he had diarrhea. So he woke me up
Starting point is 00:04:14 at midnight. I went out, took him, it was a winter wonderland. There was snow everywhere. I was like, oh my God. And it was so beautiful. And then I woke up this morning and it was raining. I really, this climate change is now it's a situation. Now it's a situation. of like the valley and then like mid-mountain, you have to see where the freezing level is. So have you been able to ski at all yet or no? Yeah, I skied. I've skied. I've skied. When you go up top, it's fine. But it's just kind of hard to get on the mountain in the rain and then go all the way up. And then you're like, oh, it's snow. So, but, you know, I just have to stay focused. So what are you doing in this last couple of weeks of the year? Are you chilling? Are people visiting? People are visiting. People are my niece and her boyfriend arrived tomorrow. I have another friend coming from that I met on my cruise to Anne.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Antarctica. That's the new pronunciation of Antarctica. I was forgetting the second T or the first one. And then, yeah, I have some people coming. And then, oh, I've been watching all the movies. I have my link for my Critics Choice because I'm hosting the Critics Choice Awards on January 4. So I have to get all of those movies in my brain to come up with my jokes and monologue and la la la. I mean, I have writers that are also working on it. So hopefully they're working harder than I am. Hopefully they're watching those movies too. Now, okay, I don't know if you're allowed to say, but do you have any favorites so far? Well, I watched Hamnet yesterday, which made me ball.
Starting point is 00:05:30 I bawled. I really want to watch it. I'm very excited. I mean, I love that. I love crying like a baby on my couch alone with Doug. And then Doug comes over to console me. It's really cute. Yeah, Hamnet was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Jay Kelly, I just started. I have to watch that. Adam Sandler is so good when he's like acting, acting. And I don't know. Yeah, I've seen so many that it's really, oh, yeah, train dreams is really good with Joel Edgerton. And what's that actresses? I think it's Edgerton.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Is it Edgerton? I think it's Edgerton. I think it's Edgerton. Okay, I'm going, we'll look it up. Look it up. Let's make a bet. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:06 What should we bet? What should we bet? If I'm right, you can't sing sing song words anymore. You can't go, Chelsea. Okay. Hi, Chelsea. And if you're right, what can't I do anymore? Be mad at me for sing-songing.
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Starting point is 00:06:36 Okay, it's coming. Please welcome back to the show, our friend Joel Edgerton, everybody. Oh, shit. Shit. Fuck. See, now you have to love my sing-songing. I do try to rain it in sometimes, but... Oh, you should.
Starting point is 00:06:52 You should try to rain it in. It doesn't really match this podcast. Well, I guess it does match the podcast. It doesn't match me. It's like a nice balance, right? Hopefully, hopefully. I was actually afraid it was going to make your head explode, Catherine. It'd be like holding in a sneeze.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yeah, exactly. Save it for the bedroom, you too, okay? Save the singing for the bedroom, please. Okay, today was one of my favorite people. We've had so many great actresses on lately. And this is another one. She's an Academy Award nominated actress, a Golden Globe winner for her work in the dropout.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And she has a second Golden Globe nomination for her new movie, The Testament of Anne Lee. So please welcome Amanda Seifery. Welcome, Amanda Seifred is on the podcast today. She's on Dear Chelsea. She's coming to us live from her farm. I think in the cat skills, I want to say. Is that right? Yes. Are you going to audibly respond or are you just going to do thumbs up for this interview? You know what this is? This is Zoom culture. Yeah, well, Amanda, we've been in Zoom culture since fucking 2020. You've had five years to get a head start. No, it's because I'm used to. it last night I was on an hour long call on mute given you know thumbs ups and and a okays you know what is nice about zoom culture is sometimes you just pretend that you can't get on so that you don't have to like I've done that before when I've had like a business zoom I'm like I can't make it work
Starting point is 00:08:13 I'm on mute and then I just can and then I just click off and then the meeting's over without me I mean the meeting person that does that and now I'm in a question it every time right right So we have a lot to celebrate. Amanda was just nominated for, you've been nominated for Golden Globes before, right? For Mama Mia, you got nominated. And I think you won. Oh, whoops. Okay, you were snubbed that year. So she was nominated this year. We're going to, she's lip syncing again. She was nominated for, it's called the Testament of Anne Lee. And this is a move. So congratulations, Amanda. Why don't you take your flowers for a second? Say thank you. Thank you so much. Double, double time. It's been great. I did not get a Golden Globe nomination for Mama Mia. But that was okay. Did you get another Golden Globe nomination before? I got a nomination and I won for the dropout. And I wasn't there. Oh, wow. That's pretty tricky. Where were you on your farm? No, I had to work. You said that in quotes. Like you put quotes up like you didn't really have to work. I totally had to work. It was, it was, it would have been impossible. It probably would have been impossible, but it was, it felt like too tricky to get all the way to L.A.
Starting point is 00:09:35 From working, where were you? I was, I was actually doing a workshop of a musical, and it felt like everybody's scheduled had to align for so long that we finally got them all to a line in this one week and it just happened to be that golden globe week. So like it was the first thing I had won and then I couldn't, I didn't get to accept it, which I guess, you know, maybe that's a blessing. Well, listen, I'm aware of your anxiety. You've talked a lot about your anxiety and I think it is a blessing because if you had to get up on that stage, who knows which way the wind would have blown. You know what I mean? Because you're a little bit like, you don't know what's going to happen. X factor, man. Yeah, it's an X factor. Which.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I fucking, I mean, listen, we all fucking love it. But probably for your personal well-being, it was better for you to be in a workshop. And that's also very professional that you were able to say, I'm not going to go to the first nomination I got, then win, and then come back to your group of actors. They must have even respected you more after that. Yeah. Okay, well, I'll follow up with all of those people. I think so.
Starting point is 00:10:45 There was a lot of celebration, actually. Yeah, it was nice. So you were nominated for a Critics Choice Award this year, just so you know, I'm hosting the critics choice, so I am going. I am definitely going to single you out and do something funny for you or about you because you know how I feel about you and I just think that you deserve that. Thank you. In any way, shape or form, I would be happy to join you. Maybe we will do something cute together. That's actually a great idea. But I am very excited that you got nominated because first of all, I just want to be in total seriousness. This is one of the most talented
Starting point is 00:11:21 people in this industry. She can do fucking anything. She can do anything. Demonstrated by her two movies that are out right now. I think House Maid comes out tomorrow and the Testament of Anne Lee is going to come out shortly after.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And these are two completely different movies. One is about the Quaker movement and this woman. Let's talk about the Testament of Anne Lee because I had to watch this movie twice. The first time I was stoned. Wait. I can't imagine watching it stones is an enhanced experience.
Starting point is 00:11:55 It was, I didn't understand which religion we were in. I understood, like, there's a lot of singing and dancing, which I all hope turns into TikTok dances because they're intense. And Amanda's an incredible singer. I heard you sing that Carol King song. I don't know on whose late night show recently because you were trying to. Joni. Oh, yeah, Joni Mitchell, sorry, not Carol King.
Starting point is 00:12:16 No, it's fine. I love it. Joni Mitchell, which, what was the song called? California. It was like a quick little snippet. I know, but you were talking about your voice and your singing voice and saying that you don't really believe. Like, I guess you, what was the movie you auditioned for that you didn't get where you had to sing? You want me to say it out loud?
Starting point is 00:12:37 Well, if you've only... I'm kidding. No, no. It's a joke. I'm over it. Wicked. Wicked, right. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:12:44 So that's even a double whammy. So all of... But look. See, look at this. No, exactly. It's all happened. exactly like I I truly believe that it was for the best for sure for everyone involved because I got to do this too you were talking on this interview that I saw about your
Starting point is 00:13:05 your singing voice and you were saying how how much you've worked on your singing voice since lay miss and in lay miss we all thought you fucking nailed it and you were saying that you have become a better singer since then and that you weren't at the level or at the place you wanted to be when you filmed lay miss. Do you still agree with that assessment? Well, I agree with that assessment.
Starting point is 00:13:29 I also, but I also completely let go of the need to access something that I might not ever be able to access in terms of like control of the vibrato and the stamina and the breathwork. I understand that I'm not going to be starring in a musical on Broadway where I need the kind of stamina that I
Starting point is 00:13:51 I've been trying to build. I'm, you know what my voice is specifically because I ended up doing something like Anne Lee where it wasn't about how it sounded. It was about where it came from. It was about how it was felt, not just by me, but by the audience, right? But by her followers. And it's like, I finally stopped listening to myself in the way that kind of made it not fun to sing. I mean, listen, I will say during my wicked audition, I sang better than I thought I would. I felt, I was, I think it came with the excitement, the momentum of how much I was training for it.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And I was very proud of myself for sure. That will never go away. But I also realized maybe I'm just not that kind of singer and I don't need to sound like anyone else. It took me four years, but at least I'm here. And, you know, when I listen, if I were to listen to the songs in layman, It was exactly how it needed to be for that time. And Anne Lee came and I was able to be at the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:14:54 It was amazing and it was perfect for where my voice was in that it's a human voice, not a trained voice. Yeah. Yeah, I like what you just said. That's perfectly said because you are singing for like your followers and you are leading this group of people. And then I love midway through the movie, she gives her, she becomes, Christ. She becomes like the female Christ and then uses that as an excuse to stop having sex with her husband, which I think is really a tale as old as time. Yeah. And you know what? Everybody was like, oh, for Jesus, for peace, for communion with God, sure. Listen, I don't think any of us would denounce
Starting point is 00:15:42 or you know eliminate fornication nowadays because even though it's tricky it's still incredibly pleasurable but they weren't up for pleasure they wanted peace and it was it made sense to her in her trauma yes in her trauma as a woman you know losing these children the direct you know the direct line between sex and pain was too clear for her. It had to be painful. Everything had to be painful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And it makes sense. It made sense for her. But the fact that, you know, almost 6,000 people at one point were like, yeah, I can do that too. Right. Lose my mind. I would love to know how many people were hiding.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And have there. Because there was no birth control. There was a birth control. So, you know, kind of. There's a giveaway at the end of that. Yeah. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Exactly. It's true. So how is this? Because you had a female director. So, I mean, and there's a lot of nudity. There's a lot of sex in this movie. There's a lot of childbirth. Yes, a lot of childbirth, a lot of like bearing, I mean, birthing positions that I hadn't been familiar with prior to watching this. Right. It's a lesson for a lot of people that childbirth is traumatic for most people. And there's nothing like, a scene in a movie where you can see it from where it's all happening. I think necessary. Do you know, like, apparently, this is a rumor. I don't know if it's for sure, but I believe it to be true that in Venice,
Starting point is 00:17:26 15 men walked out after that scene. Oh, I read that. I read that. Oh, that's so typical. And I'm like, men, men, these are your babies. Yeah, this is your seed. Your seed created this baby. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:44 The seed is from you. I posted this thing on Instagram the other day where I was like, it was a quote from Cher about, you know, what men, if men knew, if men had to give up and interrupt their career and give up nine months of their physical life and breastfeed. More than. Yeah. All of the things.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Like, they would want to have a say in it. And I posted it and like credited Cher. And like there's like 50 guys on there going, well, you don't think this affects our. life too. Like, this is so sexist to say it only impacts women. It's like, oh, shut up. Just shut up. You're missing the whole fucking point. But how was it working doing all of that, all those sex scenes, all those birthing scenes? Like, how was it working with a female director versus a male director? Was there a big difference for you? Well, there's no question with Mona. She and I have lived.
Starting point is 00:18:34 We can relate on things that I can relate to with men. And that's just a fact. There's a trust, there's an innate trust in how it's going to be shot, in why it's important. There are no questions at a certain point when you go on a set. You have, you know, we've got our DP who's a man who I've loved and trust and like a family member. We have these male crew members, but when there's a woman who's in charge of how it's being shot and what's being seen and how the story is going to unfold, it just feels heavier. It feels more empowered. feels more truthful when it, especially when it comes to that kind of content, to that kind
Starting point is 00:19:16 of situation and experience. And I'm not saying a male director couldn't have done it beautifully. I'm just saying my perspective and the way I felt in that room, that tiny little room, I was empowered as well. And I probably would have been empowered. Like, I worked with Adam McGuoy and I was super naked in a movie I did when I was 24 called Chloe. And I didn't question much because there was a lot of discussion around the whole thing for a while it felt if it felt the way it needed that you know we were doing everything right but I'm just saying like with Mona I don't know she's got a sensitivity to these things and I'm not saying you have you have to have to have through childbirth to understand it there's just just there's this sensibility that
Starting point is 00:20:01 we have and an instinct that we have as women that for me when I'm working especially in with that kind of subject matter, I just feel a little closer to it. I'd feel a little bit more, it's more reachable. It's like I just feel like I'm being taken care of as well. Long story short. No, no. I like to hear you talk about it. Because I'm curious about what kind of actor you are. Are you a method actor? Because these two projects, you're nar. NAR, nigh, nigh. NAR. Because these two projects are so different. Like, Housemade, I can't imagine that that's a method acting role. right? That's more of like camp and like, you know, crazy kind of like thriller and it's based on all these books. And then this one is real serious. Like you've got to do your research, research, research. So how do you approach two different roles like this? Like, what do you do as an actor? The thing about Anne Leanne is that she's a real iconic person whose story has not been told in really any grand way that she so deserves, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And so, like, there's a lot of responsibility because to know everything I could possibly know about her and also to learn everything. Because there's so much collaboration, obviously, it was like 18th century. We don't know what those dances really look like. We don't know exactly how she's saying. Like, there's so many things that we had the freedom to explore and change and design. So with those designs, I had to, like, completely embody the, like, I had to move. I hate dancing, but I had to learn the choreography. I had to understand why each move was happening from a spiritual point of view, from a necessity one of you, because she was so committed and so devoted.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I just had to embody someone in a way that I haven't before, because. because of the nature of what she created and she was only able to create that because she's so believed that she was the Messiah. And I just had to fall in love with her, like with Elizabeth Holmes, I had to fall in love with her. I just have to somehow find it in my, you know, find the sisterhood create it, which comes from compassion and all that stuff, you know, human to human stuff, like, you know, being able to relate to the character you're playing. But I also had to like, I mean, I just had to, there was so much pre-perion. production, so my preparation, because they were the Manchester accent, too.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Oh, yeah, that was really good. I mean, that was a great. And is that you narrating the whole film? No, that's Thomas and McKenzie with her accent. And she's from New Zealand. Oh, okay, because I was confused because I was like, this sounded like you sometimes, and then it wasn't, and then I was like, I watched it stone.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I know, and that's why I went back and I watched it sober. And I said, yeah. But also, it's okay. Like, I think the experience you had watching Desmond of Manley Stone is, it must have been somewhat confusing, but also maybe enlightening in a different way. I think it's wonderful. I actually told my caretaker at my farm who's not here today to, you know, have like a shot of rum. Yeah, for sure, you should have a shot of something. Absolutely. Because it's a lot to take in. And it's something that's so foreign to modern day, like, you know, what we believe in like modern day culture.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Like, you really have to get into it. And the good thing about being stoned is that you kind of just drop judgment and you're just kind of taking something. in. That's what I like about it. Sometimes when I'm, I watch a movie and I'm not stoned, I'm like right away like, oh, like, you know, this is not necessary. This is gratuitous or this is too much sex. This is what I want to drop, like for watching all these Academy movies. Yeah. It's, it's, first of all, some of it's homework. And I hate things that feel like homework. But some, but I should be stoned. I'm, I think I bought gummings. I like, but I haven't taken them yet because I'm afraid to get stone because I the times I've been really stone have been people I'm sure I've told you some of these stories before it's bad
Starting point is 00:24:04 but I think I should do that because when I was watching another movie the other night I'm like ugh why are they shooting it like that well why are we watching from this direction why do they say that like okay too like I'm just judging everything exactly and that's that's that's the best gift that cannabis gives me is to drop the judgment I just can be and enjoy something So we need to just find you the right concoction because I know your personality is a little bit tricky with drugs and stuff. There's like a 2.5 THHC gummy that has like a lot more CBD in it, right, Charlotte's Webb? It can have a lot more CBD in it because it's 2.5 milligrams. So whatever it has. Yeah, but it doesn't, that's two point, it's like, that's nothing anyway. So 2.5.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I'm not a scientist. I am. I am a scientist. Soi astronauta. So soy astroglida. So, sorry, sorry, Astroglida. Let's talk about what's happening on this farm that you live on. I love that you live in the Catskills on a farm with your two kids and your husband. Is it so nice. Tell us about your life. And my mom. And your mom? Yeah, she's right over there. Hi, Mom.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Can't hear you because you put, maybe put headphones on. Tell her I said hello. You know who else is here? My decrepit 16-year-old dog. She's waving. Oh, your poor dog. I know. And I saw him yesterday. I was on his doom. And I saw him whip by so fast from the barn to the house.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And I saw a car backing up. And I was like, this might be the moment. No. This might be the woman because he did. Or falls because of the ice. And he's an idiot. He's 16 and he keeps running. He tries to eat everything.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Anyway, the farm's great. It's great. It's great. I'm leaving again right after I talk to you. I've got to go to the city and do some concerts tonight. I don't even want to, I don't even know. Are you singing? Singing some stuff from the Ann Lee.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And so your mom's there to hold down the fort while you go. With Tommy. And then, although he's in the city right now, because he also had a life. It's really tricky. Yeah. Why does he get to have a life? No. No, it's great.
Starting point is 00:26:11 It's just, it was six degrees when we got up today. And so all the animals are walking on ice. And when they have four feet, right? four legs. All of them have four legs. Four wheel drive. It's great. And there are a lot of them in the barn. And so it's, we got a lot of heat lamps up. And I always think about fires. And, you know, it's managing a lot. And I understand that I chose this life. So I can't whine about it, but it's tricky. I like the word tricky. I do too. It's all encompassing. Yeah. And it's also you have to keep an eye on. It's not that you're complaining about it.
Starting point is 00:26:48 just have a lot of bigger set of responsibilities like this morning i dropped the kids off and said goodbye and cried because um i should be getting my period at a second did they cry no yeah i cry and and their classrooms are next to each other it's a it's a nice life and then i got back and i decided to go with the time i had helped the person who's feeding right now and do the stalls and do the and take the the the horse shit out of the stalls and put new shaming in the dolls and do the buckets and stuff. And that is my least favorite chore. But I did it because I wanted to feel productive and like I was being helpful. Yeah, I get that feeling a lot. I always feel like, what am I really contributing, you know, other than my personality? Because I don't make a ton of
Starting point is 00:27:33 contributions. Like I can't. Do you cook? I mean, I'm trying to, but last night I tried to take out these sweet potatoes from the oven and the pan fell out of my hands and then all the sweet potatoes fell into the crease of the oven. So I had nailed it. I had made a turkey burger with cheese, grilled onions, and a poached egg on top. I was like, fuck me right now. I'm the ruler of all kitchens.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And then I went to go take out the sweet potatoes as a nice little accent. And then everything went sideways. So I declared victory too early. So that's as, like, sophisticated as I've ever gotten in the kitchen was last night's turkey burger. I don't even know how to poach an egg. Oh, well, great.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I love being one step ahead of it. you in the kitchen. Oh, you're 70,000 steps out of me in the kitchen. I don't know anything. Well, it sounds like you know how to farm a little bit. Yeah, but that's not in the kitchen. No, but it sounds like you're making a contribution. Like, yeah. Yes, you're right. Can you clean? Like, are you good at cleaning up messes? Yes. Okay. I can't do that either. No, I can. Yes, you can. I could, I guess, but I don't really. Ever heard of a Clorox wife? I don't like to just, I don't like any sort of like stain removal. I have to get someone else involved. So, hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:28:43 If you're all alone and one of the dogs is two, right? There's one now, yeah. Snack. Yeah, snack. And a snack takes a giant dump on your carpet. Snack will get put down if he did something like that. That would never. Well, he's going to because he's going to get old.
Starting point is 00:28:58 No, no, no, no, no, no. He's, first of all, he's not going to get old. I will clone him before that happens. Secondly, he's two and a half. So don't get ahead of yourself and project about your 16-year-old dog. Okay, onto my two-and-a-half-year-old snack. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I sent Amanda a picture of, of Doug the other day, and she goes, that's a snack. He is a snack. He is a snack. What's your dog's name again? Finn. Oh, yeah, yeah. Finn's been around forever.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Finn has these crazy eyes, too. Doesn't he have two different color eyes? Nope. You're getting that confused with somebody else's dog. Interesting. But I do have a horse with two different color eyes. Oh, yeah. You're such a farmer.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I love it. Amanda, tell me why you decided to move to a farm. You know, why not? But do you think that it helps? I think it probably helps you when you go away a ton, right? Like for your work and career, it's so nice to be removed from all of that. It's, it's that you, it's so basic here. It's not, it's not basic. I'm like basic meaning nature is bigger than you here. Like you, like you in the mountains. Like, you're inside of this giant world and you, in some ways, you've been protected because nature is very powerful, but it's not trying to fuck with you.
Starting point is 00:30:24 It's not judging you. It's not trying to take your job or belittle you or manipulate you. It's just there. And when all the noise is gone, there's probably a frequent. a lower frequency that you're operating on, which is probably really healthy. And also, like, you get to, like, worry about real things. And I'm not saying that, like, living in Hollywood or living in New York City is bad for me. I'm just saying, like, I mean, take it, a chunk of it and really enjoy myself, you know, getting in an Uber and going from one place to the next,
Starting point is 00:30:58 and then walking from one block to the next and getting a Starbucks and a Zabar's bagel and a pedicure all within an hour. It's dreamy. But it's, you know, it's for a good temporary fix. It can be taxing. It can be taxing. Yeah, I don't need all that energy. I'm with you. Listen, I spend about 45 days a year max in Los Angeles because I love to just be out and about in different places.
Starting point is 00:31:23 So I can relate to what you're saying. Let's, Catherine, you said we have a caller, right? We're going to take a quick break. We're going to be back with Amanda Seifred. And we're going to take a caller because Amanda, I think you should be giving advice to people. That's the obvious next step. And this is an advice call-in show. So we're going to take a break.
Starting point is 00:31:37 We'll be right back. Being a parent is basically a juggling act. Dinner, hockey practice, homework, a last-minute science project, and someone's always, always shouting for you from another room. So, yeah, I'll take any shortcuts that actually works. And that's why I'm all in on Hello Fresh. Fresh ingredients, super easy recipes, and over 80 options every week so everyone eats. No one complains, and I get to feel like I've got it all together.
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Starting point is 00:32:29 Try HelloFresh today and get 50% off the first box with free shipping. Go to Hellofresh.com and use promo code Rescue 50. That's Hellofresh.combe, rescue 50. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed. We have some breaking news to tell you about.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Tennessee's Attorney General is suing a Nashville doctor. In April 2024, a fertility clinic in Nashville shut down overnight. and trapped behind locked doors were more than a thousand frozen embryos. I was terrified. Out of all of our journey, that was the worst moment ever. At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow. But this story isn't just about a few families' futures. It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care can be trusted at all.
Starting point is 00:33:27 It doesn't matter how much I fight. It doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this. It doesn't matter how much justice we get. None of it's going to get me pregnant. Listen to what happened in Nashville on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut.
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Starting point is 00:34:23 What's this? Where is that? Why is it wet? Boy, do we have a show for you? From Smartless Media, Campside Media, and Big Money Players comes crimeless. Join me, Josh Dean, investigative journalists. And me, Roy Scoville, comedian,
Starting point is 00:34:40 as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws. Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfishes a city? And meets some memorable anti-heroes.
Starting point is 00:34:56 There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys. Clap, if you think, she's a witch. And it freaks you out. He has x-ray vision. How can I not follow him? Honestly, I got to follow me. He can see right through me. Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leveh, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name. And this season, I've sat down with Black Pumas, Alessia Cara, Sarah McLaughlin, and more. Check out my new episode with John Legend. I feel like in a lot of ways our careers are parallel in some ways, but they just never intersected for some reason. I know.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back with Amanda Seifred. And we're taking our first caller, Amanda. Okay, so lock in. I'm really excited about this question. So Angela, I'm not going to read the subject line because I kind of. it gives it away. It's very exciting. Okay, don't. Great. She says, Dear Chelsea, I'm a 34-year-old child-free woman in what feels like a full-blown real-life plot twist. Two years ago, I left
Starting point is 00:36:42 my job and finally chased my dream, starting my own floral business specializing in senior assisted living centers. Since then, I've been piecing a living together with part-time gigs until one of those just ended and now it's go big or go broke. But also, it's terrifying, but also a little thrilling. Here's where it gets messy. Seven months ago, at a giant flower conference, I met a man who owns a rose business in Ecuador. We spent six hours talking and surprisingly fell into a long-distance whirlwind romance. I love it already. I've never been known as a hopeless romantic, but he's turned out to be my exception. Since then, we've seen each other about every six weeks. Ecuador, Spain, Rome, the whole montage. It's dreamy, but draining my bank
Starting point is 00:37:25 account. And while he hopes I'll eventually join him in Ecuador, I'm still trying to keep my business alive here. Do I double down on my business plan or go full eat pray love florist edition? Sincerely, a confused realist, Angela. Hi, Angela. First of all, you need to fucking go for it. This, first thing, you should, the look in Amanda's eyes, she's in love now. Look at her. She's looking at fall at her husband the first time they fell in love. We all have love in our eyes. You have to go for this adventure. That is my passionate opinion about life. Anytime there's a time to take a jump and you've been given some proof that that's the right jump, you don't even need the proof. You just need to trust your instincts and go for it. What's stopping you? Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:08 I guess I just, I built my life here. I live in Buffalo. I'm not from Buffalo. And I came here eight years ago and I've like built my life here. And so it just feels so, I guess, almost wrong to let it go after I put so much work into it for a man. But then again, it's like, like, I said, he's kind of my exception. It's so different from anything. You're not letting it go. You're just, it's still there. I mean, first of all, Buffalo. Yeah, I know. You got to get out. Just for a little while. I'm like, I love Buffalo. I know me too, but it's cold. It's so cool. It's coming from a woman on a farm in the snow. Is there anyone that can watch your business while you go and gallivant around with your guy from Ecuador? I mean, not not fully yet,
Starting point is 00:38:58 just because it's such a small business, I've been running it pretty much by myself, but I am going for a month on the 19th. So I'm going to stay there for a month just to kind of give it a little bit of a trial run. Then I guess just to see how it will all work out. I don't know. So is there anyone in that month that you can have like try and run the business for you while you're gone just to give someone a test run? A woman. I haven't like, yeah, obviously. I haven't like set anyone up to do that yet. So I guess that would be something that I would, I'd probably think of that doing that before after, like if I go again.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I know, but just to, but to give someone a trial run would give you a lot more like confidence in maintaining your business while you go and do this just in case you need to. Like I understand giving up everything that you've built is more of a harder period to swallow in search of romance. But like if you go and you go down to Ecuador and live with the sky, are you guys going to be working together down there? No. I would have to like find probably a remote job or a job down there where it's English speaking because even though duolingo's great, it's just not doing it for me right now. Well, you have to be honest. Are you on a streak? Are you on a duolingo streak? Oh,
Starting point is 00:40:11 yeah. I'm over 200 days. Like since the day I met him, I was like, oh, okay. Oh, that's better than me. What am I talking about? Amanda, what do you have to say about this? Well, listen, yeah, it's no small thing. But I don't see it as you leaving your life for good forever. It's not like you have a one-way ticket and you can't come back. It's like you, life is so short. It's like, what are we doing? I mean, if you feel something like that, like that, you have that kind of fire in you for this experience,
Starting point is 00:40:48 it's not for a guy. It's for the experience of being in love and like traveling the world. It's a big, it's bigger than a guy. So it's like when you characterize it as leaving your life for a guy, that's not really what's happening. I mean, I think you trust yourself in some ways. If you're already going for a month, it's true that you could hire somebody to take care of it, or you can shut it down for a month and see and see how it goes. But I think you take this opportunity to find someone who's willing to maybe keep it alive for you.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Because if you also have that connection back to your business while you're there, as stressful that could possibly be, it would still make you feel like you can do. do both. Yeah, and that you have a little income. Yeah. And also, when you say yes to life, life says yes to you. That's just what happens. When you take big risks, you get big rewards most of the time. And like you've met this guy. I trust that you're a sensible person just in the short time that you've been talking. You don't seem unstable or off balance or in, you know, and I loved what Amanda just said. It's bigger than a guy. It's about being in love and about the experience of love. It doesn't matter who the person is. So I think that you really, you really
Starting point is 00:41:54 do have to go down. Listen, you're going to go down for a month and you're going to have your answer anyway. Yeah. Yeah. I would just plan that after I wrote in. So, yeah, I guess that will be a big tell. Nice. There is no better feeling than falling in love. It is the best feeling. Yeah. The texting, the flirting, the phone calls. If you're into phone calls, I'm not. But all of it is so fun. Yeah, I have to be into phone calls now. So. Yeah. Face times. That's the one that really gets to be. I can't take FaceTime. I got two face-times yesterday, and my new policy is say yes. Answer the call.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Answer the call. Because I always just put it to voicemail. I'm like, no, no, no. And I answer both calls. And both of them were really like great, fun, high-five, like 30-minute phone calls. I'm like, I'm glad I did that. I'm going to start, you know, doing this more often. It's a nice way to connect to people.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Yeah. Yeah, I feel better after the fact. Okay, well, go live your life, sister. You're fine. You don't need us. You're going to have a great time and let us know what happens after a month and report back to Catherine so we can stay tuned. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Sounds good. Thanks guys. All right. Have fun in Ecuador. And write about it. Yeah, right. Journal. Make sure you're journaling about it. Yeah. Every day I'm going to do at least like a couple sentences I decided while I'm there just to kind of keep track of where my mind's at. So yeah, that's a good habit to get into. You know. All right. Thank you. Okay. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Take care. Thanks. That's exciting. So funny how I know sometimes people are like so excited and thrilled for something and then they hold themselves back because they're like, do I really, I don't know if it's a deserve this thing, but it's like, should I? Should I? Like, yes, you should. But people are scared. They're going to, because it's like, listen, as a woman, you give up your whole thing, your business that you built for a man. Like we, if the guy lived here and was like, okay, you have to, I don't want you working. We would say, no, run as fast as you can away from that guy. So it is hard as a woman. when you've built something to say, like, oh, I'm going to abandon it. Yeah. I understand that. I'm glad you encouraged her to, like, have somebody else run it while you're gone. Yeah. I don't want to be like, just give it away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Also, Ecuador, there's airplanes exist. You know what I mean? Buffalo will still be there. Buffalo to Ecuador. I'm like, I choose Ecuador. I mean, listen, it sucks, but also, can he come here? I mean, what do you want to? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:16 It doesn't sound like it's a good time for anyone from Ecuador to be coming here. But anyway. Oh, you know what? Good point. Good. Sometimes I'm living in the, you know, the Obama era. Well, listen, that farm will do it to you. I don't blame you. It's just idyllic where you are. Well, our next caller is Lindsay. She is 33. And she says, Dear Chelsea, sorry, this is long. I love you. I met my fiancé, Brayden, almost 12 years ago when we were about 21, working at the same restaurant. We quickly started dating. When we first hooked up, I knew he was a keeper.
Starting point is 00:44:52 On top of that, he's respectful, hilarious, and incredible listener devoted to me and lets me know about it every single day. I genuinely feel that I found one of the good ones. We're just now embarking on this new adventure of getting married. The time is now officially here, and I'm freaking out. My parents' marriage was rough. My dad, a white American, moved to Indonesia after college to work as an accountant for an oil company where my mom, a native Indonesian, was a secretary. I think they were happily married for some time, but my dad says he had a midlife crisis and his early 40s and had an affair with a woman nearly half his age. I don't exactly know when
Starting point is 00:45:27 this crisis started, but it's really all I remember of their marriage. I never witnessed any affection or kindness between my parents. In the rare times my dad was home, we all walked on eggshells. He frequently took so-called business trips, which we eventually realized were excuses to spend time with his mistress. When he wasn't with her, she would turn her focus on us, harassing us with relentless phone calls and public outbursts causing scenes. Side note, my mom nicknamed her the bee since we weren't allowed to curse. They even had a child together before my parents' divorce was finalized, and these are just some of the many painful experiences that I can't fully capture in a single email. When I was eight, my mom finally saved enough of her own money
Starting point is 00:46:06 to flee to the U.S. and access the protections and rights granted to her under the American justice system as the spouse of a U.S. citizen. For whatever reason, my dad and the B are still together to this day, and my dad frankly seems unhappy if not miserable. To put it lightly, the B is a nuisance at family gatherings. She's impulsive, acts inappropriately, and gives irrelevant commentary. She's not the most socially adept person and could possibly suffer from mental health issues, which I completely understand and can relate to. But there's no indication she's sought professional help. Despite this, my siblings and I have done our best to tolerate the discomfort of being civil towards her for the sake of our family. Yes, our dad is arguably a POS,
Starting point is 00:46:45 but at least my brother, sister, and I have an amazing superhuman mom. It's important for me to gave a positive relationship with my half siblings and offer any guidance or advice if they ever need it. But this all brings me to my dilemma. My fiance and I do not want the be at our wedding. So how do we navigate the situation? Love Lindsay. Oh, okay. Hi, Lindsay. Hi. How are you? Hi. This is our special guest Amanda Seifred today. Sorry. Oh my gosh. Hi. Nice to see you. I'm sorry. That's a really difficult crappy situation. I'm so happy that you're getting married though. And just know that like, you know, our parents don't define us at all. I couldn't be more opposite than both of my parents. Sometimes they give you like a roadmap of what not to do, you know? And so like your marriage will be completely
Starting point is 00:47:30 different than the ones you, than the one your parents had just from how insightful you are because of this. Now, your half siblings are from the bee. Yes. And how many are there? Um, I have two half siblings and then one stepbrother as well that she had from a previous relationship. Do they love the be? I think so. Go ahead. No, no, no. That's fine. That's a fair question. So they love her. And do they know how you feel about her? We've never spoken about it directly. I think there's always some, I can tell that they also feel uncomfortable at times, you know, when she acts out. Well, I think like you have to be prepared. If you disinvite her, which you totally have every right to do, your father is probably going to not come either. There's a chance that that happens, right?
Starting point is 00:48:17 Right. And I actually do have an update since I initially wrote the email. We really needed to get going on the wedding planning. And honestly, Chelsea, I knew what you were going to say to me probably is to just do it, to have a conversation with him. And he actually was really receptive and agreed to not have her come to the Bali wedding. He is also still committed to contribute financially despite that. so wow this is great this is a great update thanks for bringing one now are your your half siblings they're all going to come as well
Starting point is 00:48:54 or some can't make it just because of other obligations but yes that I have extended the invites to them yeah so right now
Starting point is 00:49:05 it's the holidays and I'm going to have to face everyone in person pretty soon including the bee so it is a little bit you know nerve wracking
Starting point is 00:49:13 But you know what? Hold your ground. You made a boundary. You stood up for what you want at your wedding on your wedding day. That is the most important person on any wedding day is the bride. Fuck the groom. Okay. So the bride, it's your day. You created a boundary. You're self-respecting. You're self-preserving. All of these things are really strong choices that you've made. You did this all on your own. So like you're already a G. Like this is all good stuff. And you can look at her in the eye with dignity. because at least you were up front and honest about what you want. You know what I mean? And now, and just take the hot air out of it. There's only tension if you allow tension to be, if there's two people creating tension. If there's no tension coming from you, she has no one to have tension with in the first place. Totally. Totally.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Yeah, I hear you. And it's going to be uncomfortable for me too, but I just have to deal with it. Yeah, you just have to deal with it and that's okay. But you know what you don't have to deal with? Her at your wedding. So that's great. And I'm like, so many women are going to be listening to this and be inspired by you and taking charge of the situation in the ways in which you did.
Starting point is 00:50:21 And also giving hope to other people's fathers. Like, I'm so pleased to hear that your dad was so receptive that he's still contributing financially. Your dad is probably miserable in his marriage. He probably is. I mean, she sounds, you know, not ideal. So, yeah. So congrats on everything. You already crushed it.
Starting point is 00:50:38 You're calling in basically just doing a victory dance. Yeah. Definitely. No, I mean, I still wanted to, I thought it would still be a good conversation to have with you. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm super excited. Also, Chelsea, you're more than welcome to join us. When is the wedding? In Bali? Yeah, I love Bali. Next August. Is it in Ubud or is it on the beach? Actually, a little bit southeast of Ubud in a city called Mangis. It's more like old Bali, they say, just like a little less crowded and less traffic. Okay, well, why don't you, Catherine, follow up with her
Starting point is 00:51:14 because if I'm traveling in August, I'll totally swing by. I love Molly. I need an excuse to go there. That'd be so fun. I don't go. Listen, I got invited to a lot of weddings, but I will only go to someone I just met. Oh my God. That would be a dream come true.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I know. But don't get your hopes up. I mean, I can't commit, but you never know with me. I could show up. I could. Just this conversation is everything. So, no way. I love it.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I love it. Thank you so much for calling in, Lindsay. Of course. Thank you so much for taking the time. It's great. this is awesome. I hope I make it. Yeah, have so much fun, Lindsay. Oh my gosh. Congrats. Thank you. And can I just say, Chelsea, I've been following you for a long time. I used to watch Chelsea lately every single night. And, you know, sometimes we kind of live in a dark world. So I really appreciate you for bringing laughter and joy to the world. Yeah, I love your comedy and what you do. So keep at it. Thank you. Thank you so much. You know what? Also, Catherine, hook her up with two tickets for next year's tour.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Oh, sure. Because I'm doing a tour, the High and Mighty tour. We're going to, and I'm sure I'm coming to a city near you. If I haven't announced it yet, I'll be announcing more dates. But we're going to hook you up with tickets so you can come and say hi. Oh, my God. Thank you so much. I know you're coming to Denver, and I haven't been able to make it to one of your shows.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I really wanted to go to the Red Rocks one, but I just couldn't make it happen. So I really appreciate that. That's okay. We'll make it happen at the Paramount in Denver. I'm coming there. Yes, absolutely. We're going to make it happen. Okay, fun.
Starting point is 00:52:40 I love it. I love it. thank you so much have fun okay bye oh how you're fucking Santa Claus oh my god I feel like Santa Claus it's the Christmas season you guys isn't it nice though to know that you're gonna be like in different city like if you know specifically where you're gonna be like you can offer that to people and it's just like and you're giving access with this with this show people can call it's just you also two for two like some pretty badass women just called in like I don't know. I'm here for it.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I love it. I love it. All right, we're going to take a break and we're going to come back and wrap up with Amanda. And we're back with Amanda Seifred. Being a parent is basically a juggling act. Dinner, hockey practice, homework, a last-minute science project, and someone's always, always shouting for you from another room. So, yeah, I'll take any shortcuts that actually works. And that's why I'm all in on HelloFresh.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Fresh ingredients, super easy recipes and over 80 options every week so everyone eats. No one complains, and I get to feel like I've got it all together, at least for dinner. And the best part, you're in total control. Skip a week, pause any time, pick what works for you. It's dinner on your terms. They even have 15-minute recipes. Perfect for those nights when everyone's hungry and patience is officially off the menu. And with so many options, even my pickiest eater found something they loved,
Starting point is 00:54:09 which means no more backup mac and cheese. Try HelloFresh today and get 50% off the first box with free shipping. Go to Hellofresh.com.combe, rescue 50. That's Hellofresh.combe, rescue 50. I'm investigative journalist Melissa Jeltson. My new podcast, What Happened in Nashville, tells the story of an IVF clinic's catastrophic collapse and the patients who banded together in the chaos that followed.
Starting point is 00:54:37 We have some breaking news to tell you about. Tennessee's Attorney General is suing a Nashville doctor. In April 2024, a fertility clinic in Nashville shut down overnight and trapped behind locked doors were more than a thousand frozen embryos. I was terrified. Out of all of our journey, that was the worst moment ever. At that point, it didn't occur to me what fight was going to come to follow. But this story isn't just about a few families' futures. It's about whether the promise of modern fertility care,
Starting point is 00:55:08 can be trusted at all. It doesn't matter how much I fight. Doesn't matter how much I cry over all of this. It doesn't matter how much justice we get. None of it's going to get me pregnant. Listen to what happened in Nashville on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product With every sip, you get a little something different. Visit gentlemen's cut bourbon.com or your nearest total wines or bevmo. This message is intended for audiences 21 and older.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gentlemen's cut bourbon.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? And what is this? How is that not a story we all know?
Starting point is 00:56:06 What's this? Where is that? Why is it wet? Boy, do we have a show for you. From smartless media, Campside Media, and Big Money Players comes Crimeless. Join me, Josh Dean,
Starting point is 00:56:20 investigative journalists. And me, Rory Scoval, comedian, as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws. Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Who catfish is a city? And meet some more. memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys. Clap if you think, she's a witch. And it freaks you out. He has X-rayed vision. How could I not follow him?
Starting point is 00:56:48 Honestly, I got to follow him. He can see right through me. Listen to Crimless on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles
Starting point is 00:57:08 to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Lave, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy,
Starting point is 00:57:24 really too many to name. And this season, I've sat down with Black Pumas, Alessia Kara, Sarah McLaughlin, and more. Check out my new episode with John Legend. I feel like in a lot of ways our careers are parallel in some ways, but they just never intersected for some reason. I know.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. One of my favorite people, I really, ever since I first interviewed Amanda, I was probably on Chelsea lately. It was. I've loved her. She is so fucking funny. She's weird and she says things that are inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I love that. And you're not like an actor, actor. Even though you're a great actor, you don't take yourself seriously. And I think that is really the ingredient that makes people the most likable is when they don't take themselves so seriously. Thanks. And it was like, like I reached out to you after the shit. a shitstorm, recent shitstorm, which I'm not used to used to operating in a shitstorm, but
Starting point is 00:58:41 it happened. And like I reached out to you that I don't know why I felt like you were similar that we don't take ourselves very seriously and you are actually a comedian, but you actually know your, you know your shit. And it was like, it made me feel so much better. Oh. So I think for like, at least with, like, you're like, you're fine. I don't know why. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:02 It's something that you had posted. I don't know. No, no, no. I understand. But before we close, I just want to ask you, how did you meet your husband? On stage. I mean, I did a stage play the last time, the first and last time, and we'll ever do that to myself and my psyche. Did you know, right? Did you, what was it like when you guys locked in? I mean, I guess it was kind of a long, you know, when that happens.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Like, we were both involved with other people, but like, and I also didn't know. Like, I, I just assumed he thought I was a loser because that's kind of how I, you know, viewed myself when it came to men. I worked on it. I no longer feel that way. But, thank God. But I was, you know, like 30 or 29, and I was in a, like, a dead end relationship. And I think a part of me had opened at that point because I was so done with feeling like shit. Because of relationships, you mean?
Starting point is 01:00:04 I was in a relationship where I was completely just like not seen but I was also like oh I want to settle down you know I had the dream of the kids you know very early on and but but so I part of me was kind of opened up and when I met him I was just like I really liked his voice and I like the fact that he like salt and pepper hair he's only like nine years older than me but for some reason and he was like a he's a feeder guy so he his feet were so solidly on the ground when it came to that kind of work and I was so scared I was like floating and I felt like he kind of in some way figuratively like and pulled me down and helped me through and supported me and had this like unconditional support of me in that in that new realm that I was in and I had this amazing director Lee Silverman and I just felt really safe and seen and it was a new wild new experience that scared me and I think when you're really scared and you have someone who's like here take my hand you kind of can't help but fall in love with something about them, whether they're a man or a woman, you feel safe. And I felt safe with him. And then the show was over. He went back to L.A. My relationship ended. Thank God, mercifully, like,
Starting point is 01:01:16 immediately, even before the show ended. And then we talked a little bit, but then come January, that next year he was out of his relationship. And it was so scary, though. It was so scary to commit to somebody, because I was like, I had been kind of burned in my last relationship, so committing with him as a person who was free like a real because when I was with him in the show he wasn't a real he wasn't an opportunity he was there was with somebody I just was like oh I know how this feels this is where I want doesn't have to be him but I know how this feels and then of course it was so messy that summer just like dealing with like the the like ongoing just like ongoing trauma of a breakup and then talking and then and then like keeping the
Starting point is 01:02:03 break. It was just like yuck. And then I crocheted myself into oblivion here on the farm because I had already bought the farm and I was all alone watching Felicity. I watched Felicity. She's another favorite of mine, Carrie. Four days. I watched the entire four seasons with four seasons. And I was crocheting fucking Christmas stockings. And I had my friend, my best friend Peter, who I'm sure you know, from Netflix, now he's at Amazon, came to see me and was like, are you okay out of here? I'm like, I'm fine, I'm just getting ready to the Christmas season.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And it was October. So I was great. I was single. I wasn't great. So like that was, and going through all that and being alone and being like out here in the woods with nobody for an extended period of time, I went back to L.A. for Christmas because my sister was out there. And we all went to L.A. for Christmas. And then I started, like, meditating. Because I was just so lost. Really, like, horrible breakup. Extended breakup. And then in January, I was like, I was like meditating with Al-Narkin. Like, it was, in January, I, oh, dear. We met up his place in L.A. and dear, so many dear.
Starting point is 01:03:23 You need to take a Vyvance or something. Did you take your V-Vance today or your Adderall? Lexington Pro. Oh my God, I forgot to take my legs for today. Oh, my God. You just reminded me. Okay. Oh, my God, I didn't take it last night.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Okay. I didn't take it last night. Okay, well, go take it. Go take it right now. You saved my day. You don't understand. But anyway, it was great. That's how I met him.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Long story short. That's how I met him. What was the moment where you guys decided to be together? Did you call him or did he call you? I berated him Because I saw him like Like another person's Instagram and I was like
Starting point is 01:04:03 Oh So you're gonna Like now you're free Like I was an asshole to him And then we you know Reconnected But I was an asshole to him I believe
Starting point is 01:04:13 And he understood that that meant I cared about him Yes And I was like Oh you need to go live And fucking Say Fife for Kwa can't do the accent.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I was like, good luck. And he was like, oh, she really likes me. She's jealous of this other person. That's how damaged women show affection is by berating a man. That's how you know we've been bruised. But you know it also about damaged women? We can fucking fix ourselves. And then we can be whole again.
Starting point is 01:04:45 We don't need a man to do that. Once we fix ourselves, we can hold it down. Yeah. But it's nice that he held you down on the theater in the theater. during the play, he held you down, and then you held it down for yourself. So there we go. Yeah, and then, like, cut two years later, he held me down. And I got pregnant.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Okay, on that note, we want you to go take your Lexapro. Go take it right now. Get off this and go take it. Oh, my God. This never happens. I fell asleep with my son last night, and I forgot to take my meds. Your son is a great rapper, by the way. I loved that video. I love you, Amanda.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And did you want to say something more? I love you, too. There's always something more to say, isn't there? I'm going to go take my medicine now. Okay. Bye, honey. Have a great day. Holy shit. Love you guys. I just announced all my tour dates. It's called the High and Mighty Tour. I will be touring from February through June.
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