Dear Chelsea - The Funny Parts of Death with Rosebud Baker
Episode Date: November 4, 2021Comedian Rosebud Baker joins Chelsea in the studio to talk about the funniest parts of grief, getting sober, and former President George W. Bush’s paintings. A child-free woman finds she struggles ...to relate to her friends with kids. A boyfriend says degrading things to his girlfriend - but only when he’s drunk. And one mother’s greatest joy is her 5-month-old baby… who happens to be a secret.  *Executive Producer Nick StumpfProduced by Catherine LawEdited & Engineered by Brandon Dickert*****The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees. This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Okay, welcome to our latest installment of Dear Chelsea. This is a very, very therapeutic podcast
hosted by yours truly and my wonderful producer, Catherine, who is here with me. Thank you. Hi,
Catherine. Hi, Catherine.
Hi, Chelsea. How are you?
I'm great. How are you doing?
Oh, I'm happy today.
You are?
Yeah, feeling good.
We were just talking about grounding mats. If you guys are listening,
grounding mats are where it's at. I was introduced to it by Joe Coy and his tour bus, but I just brought it up to Catherine. And Catherine,
can you kind of give us an abridged version of what it is?
Yeah, absolutely. Well, an earthing mat or. And Catherine, can you kind of give us an abridged version of what it is? Yeah, absolutely.
Well, an earthing mat or a grounding mat.
And you can actually find there's a book about it.
But really just go look at the Amazon reviews because people have these changed lives from using these.
But basically what it does is since we evolved as humans walking around on the earth, the earth would absorb any positive electrical charge that we
would build up. But nowadays, we all walk around in these rubber-soled shoes. And so we're building
up static electricity. And this is all measurable. It sounds very woo-woo, but it's all real.
And so it's the sort of thing that happens when you walk around on the beach or around
on grass. And the earth actually absorbs that electric charge that builds up and that charge can kind of cause a host of things.
So you said positive electrical charge or negative electrical charge?
A positive electrical charge. And so we want to get back to neutral.
We want to get back to zero, which is what happens when we walk around.
Right, right. You want to get grounded, which means you're at zero.
Right. So it's great for anti-inflammation. It's great for sleeping. Joe Coy, my lover,
has terrible sleep apnea. So he looks like a fucking octopus every single night when he goes
to sleep because he has to hook himself up to a machine that sounds like he's vacuuming. And
basically it's like he goes to Antarctica for eight hours because once he hooks up to that
machine, it's like, see you later. And he hasn't used the machine for three nights.
Yeah. My husband stopped snoring. Yeah. Oh, really? My husband stopped snoring. My dad had
like a neuropathy in his foot where he couldn't really feel his foot for a while. And it went
away when he started using one. My friend, one of the guys on the bus says he gets gout all the
time and he's been using it and hasn't had an outbreak. Is gout called an outbreak? I think
that's herpes. But anyway, we can call gout an outbreak, right? A gout break. And it's good for autoimmune,
you know, anti-inflammation. I came back from my orca and literally turned around and went on the
road with Joe and was completely fine. Had no jet lag because I got on the bus and like, you got to
ground, you got to ground, you got to ground. So it's very exciting, you guys. For listeners,
you can go on Amazon, right? And order one. And it's just a little mat that you put on your feet or you put your feet on,
or you can put it around your body. You can sleep with it on your, like just touching some part of
your skin and it helps you kind of be grounded. And yeah, I'm really excited about it. Hopefully
I'll stick to it. We have a very exciting guest today. This is somebody that I'm personally
invested in and she has a new special
out on Comedy Central called Whiskey Fists. So if you haven't seen that, please do, because
she has got a real point of view, which is what we all want when we're watching comedy,
is somebody who's saying something that you hadn't thought of before. And she says a lot of that,
and she says it with a lot of attitude. is a writer on HBO's that damn Michael Che
and she's also in Amy Schumer's new Hulu series Life and Beth which I'm looking forward to seeing
also and this is how I found her her weekly podcast which is fucking funny as shit so follow
her on Instagram at Rosebud Baker right yeah follow her on Instagram at Rosebud Baker and
watch clips of her podcast
and then subscribe to her podcast
because she and her husband sit there
and just basically argue
in not even really a loving way,
but in a way that there's a lot of love there,
but it is highly entertaining
and something I wish I had thought of for myself.
Please welcome Roseamund Baker.
Thank you. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. So nice to see you in person. I'm so that I'm,
I love that you love the podcast because sometimes people go, they get uncomfortable.
I love it. And they'll be like, I don't know, it feels like they're really fighting. And it's like,
we are really fighting. That's what it's like. But that's what it is. But that's what a relationship
is. It's telling somebody what you think, what you really think about them and them having to suck that up.
Right. And there's also not a lot of that going around right now. So I have a lot of respect for
it because people are trying to pussyfoot around everything in this moment in time because people
are so scared to be real. And this is a real podcast and it is about a real
relationship. And that's what's funny about it. So it's very refreshing. So I'm really excited.
And we're also my production company is developing a television show with Rosebud. So when I say
personally invested, I mean it that way, because I just am really, really looking forward to going
out with this show for you, which is based on, you know,
your real life experiences and what happened to you growing up. Yeah. Which is, well, first,
let me just tell the story about I was in Maine last year, around this time, actually, I was in Maine, in a place called Biddeford Pool, which I rented a house for like, two weeks with my family
and some friends kind of strolled in and out. But Barbara Bush, who is the daughter of George W. Bush, she is a friend of mine. And she
texted me and she said, Sissy, that's what we call each other, Sissy. She goes, Sissy, I hear that
you're in Biddeford Pool. I'm here with my mom. We're like two houses down from where you're
staying. And I said, oh, my God, come on on over sissy. So she came over, but she was with
Barbara Bush, the former first lady. And I walk outside and they're walking up my driveway and
there's, I guess, secret service must've been with them or something. And they came into the house
and I showed them the view cause we had rented this beautiful house with this gorgeous ocean
view. Maine is gorgeous. And she walked outside on the deck. And then my brother, Roy, came outside and looked at Barbara Bush and said,
sweetie, he goes, sweetie, you look familiar.
And I was like, Roy, please go inside.
Please don't.
And then we proceeded to hang out that week because Barbara was in Kenny
Bunkport with her whole family.
And we were doing Pilates at my house every morning.
So she.
That sounds so relaxing.
It's so, yeah, it's very white.
All of it.
All of it.
She came over every morning to do Pilates with us.
And then one day she was, her husband is really into pickleball.
And I am not into pickleball because everybody won't shut the fuck up about pickleball.
And I don't like when people can't shut the fuck up about something.
I want it to pass and then I'll get interested.
Same.
It's like a book. The pressure is too much. I'm like, I don't want to have can't shut the fuck up about something. I want it to pass and then I'll get interested. It's like a book.
The pressure is too much.
I'm like, I don't want to have to like this.
Yeah.
If everyone's reading the same book, I'm like, everyone read Educated.
I'm like, I'm so sick of that book that I cannot fucking read it until everyone shuts
the fuck up about it.
Yeah.
And then I listened to it on audio, which is not the way to read that book.
I don't like audio books.
I like to read books.
Anyway, we went to Kenny Bunkport.
I said to Barbara, I said, listen, she goes, why don't you guys come to Kennebunkport,
come to the compound, play pickleball. And I had a big group with me and I was like, okay,
you know, they all wanted to go. And I don't care about that stuff. And I also said, Hey,
to see, let me be honest with you. Like me meeting your father. I don't know if I can
trust myself and my behavior because, you know, sometimes I have outbursts and, you know,
politically it's just not a good thing. And I don't want to be disrespectful and somebody's
in their own home. Yeah. You had to issue a warning. Yes. And she's like, oh, don't worry.
He'll be getting a massage when you come over. I'll make sure of it. I go, okay. Okay. You know,
I take your word. She's a liar because we were there and we were on the court for no less than
10 minutes before George W. Bush. I heard him go, Ms. Handler, is that you? And I was like, oh, fuck. Now I have to like, oh my god,
this is against everything I stand for. I'm like, I'm such a hypocrite. Here I am. You know,
and of course, I found him totally like cute and charming. He comes over. I know. I know. And I was
like, oh, fuck. And so he comes over and he goes, oh, he goes, I know you. You know what? I know. I know. And I was like, oh, fuck. And so he comes over and he goes, oh, he goes,
I know you. You know what? I know somebody that is going to be the next Chelsea Handler. And I go,
I doubt that. I go, I doubt he goes, no, she's a comedian. I go, you don't know any comedians
that I know. Right. And he was like, oh, no, I do. He goes, James Baker. She's the granddaughter of James Baker. And I was like,
James Baker, who worked for you? And he said, yeah, James Baker, who worked for me. And I go,
I don't think that I know her. And he goes, oh, Rosebud, Rosebud Baker. And I was like,
oh, fuck, we have a deal with Rosebud. We're developing a show for Rosebud Baker.
And I go, my God, we do have something in common. I know. And also, like,
I've met him so many times in my life where I felt the exact same way that you did, where I was just
like, oh, God damn it. Because he is likable. He's very likable. And he's charming. He's so
charming. And you're like, no, I get why people the whole like litmus test, like, would you have
a beer with this person? He's the guy you want to have a beer with I mean he he is I'm like okay I get why yeah he was excited to have company
and my brother and sister were there and then like six or seven friends of mine and they were all
just like you know dumbstruck they were like what the fuck is going on and he's talking to my sister
and my brother Roy he's like Roy god I love Roy and you know he talks about everyone loves my brother
Roy because his head is very large and misshapen so people think that you know like they don't not
sure if something's off or what so they're always very delicate with him but then I go after he we
kind of hung out for a little he was with his sister and then he left and I was like all right
we got to go guys everyone and they're like why we're having a good time we're playing pickleball
I go I just don't want to be here any longer like I don't trust myself I want to be respectful so we're about
to leave and he comes running out of the house and he's like come you got to see the house we just
renovated it I want to show you the views and he and I was like oh god oh fuck this is somebody
after they retire and we went in and he's like I want to show you my art collection and i was really stoned that day
yeah not unlike most days i know you're sober we'll talk about that too did he show you his
paintings he said i have to show you my artwork and i looked at him and i said i don't think
that's a good idea either and i remember and then he walked me upstairs there was one painting
downstairs then he goes come on upstairs And I was like looking for Barbara.
I'm like, hey, sissy, this is not what we agreed upon.
And he brings me upstairs and he's showing me his paintings.
And all I could think of was I said out loud, wow, the paint is so thick.
Can I tell you, my mother, right after he got out of office, my mom and my dad got divorced and my mom started like campaigning for Obama.
And then literally just immediately was just like, fuck it.
And he asked my mom to teach him how to paint.
And my mom was like giving him painting lessons.
And she was like, bud, it's not coming along.
It's not working out.
She was like, it's really it's uh i mean he likes it he's having fun
so yeah that's the most important thing is for him to have fun right now right i guess yeah yes
and then at one point he said take off your sunglasses so you can see the painting and i
just looked at him and i said i'm very very stoned right now like i'd rather not i'm gonna keep these
on and then we're gonna walk downstairs and I'm going to say goodbye.
And I remember my friends were like loitering.
You know, they didn't want to leave because he was cornering my one friend and talking to her about sports and whatever.
And my friends were into it.
And I was like, guys, let's go.
I'm like, round them up and let's go.
We got to leave this party.
I love the idea of George Bush, the former president, just being like the guy from Blank
Check, the movie.
He's just like, you guys want to come ride horses sometime?
Just keeping you there, holding you hostage with activities.
Exactly.
Exactly.
It's like, OK, somebody hasn't had a lot of visitors in a long time.
OK, Rosebud, let's talk a little bit about you for a second.
We talked about your stand-up special, which just came out. So that's on Comedy Central. Let's talk about
what your show is about. Okay. Because we have something in common, which is death in our family.
Right. And I wanted to write a show about death that dealt with it in a way that wasn't so sentimental. And I wanted to find
the just the hilarious, absurd experience of grief that I feel like hasn't really been touched on.
I find that if something is sad, it's funny to me. I've never seen a sad thing that didn't
immediately make me laugh. And it's unfortunate. I mean, sometimes it comes up,
somebody will tell me some bad news and my first reaction is to like choke down a laugh. And I
think part of it is a defense mechanism. Absolutely. But I also think that there's a lot of,
I mean, grief itself is an absurd emotion. It is like organic ayahuasca. Whatever you've been
shoving down, it immediately comes up and you have to
deal with it. And I wanted to write a show around that. I wanted to write a show that
deals with the funny parts of death and grief, you know? Yeah. And to me, I mean, there's there
was so much of that that I saw because I grew up with money and I grew up in a family where,
you know, everybody had this country club etiquette. And I thought, I grew up in a family where you know everybody had this country club etiquette and I thought I want to write a show that deals with grief through the prism of like wealth and
money and that country club world where you're supposed to keep everything in a box and everything's
supposed to look nice and tidy because I think that's such a great backdrop for an emotion like grief and to highlight how absurd
and how funny it can be, you know? Yeah. Well, and also, can you talk a little bit about who
died in your family and how? Yeah. So my sister died. It was about 20 years ago. She died in a jacuzzi, which is, I mean.
Just a jumping off point in our show.
Yeah.
So, I mean, there's jokes about this in my special in Whiskey Fists, but it's to me dying in a jacuzzi is such a funny way to die.
Like there's drowning and then there's drowning in a small, shallow pool with bubbles.
And it's just absurd.
And she was young.
She was very young.
So how old was she?
She was seven.
She was very she was a child.
OK.
And how old were you at the time?
17.
So and I never saw obviously when this happened, I didn't find this hilarious.
Right.
It wasn't none of this
was funny to me until years later when I would be telling people about myself and they would go oh
how did your sister die and I would say that she drowned and then they would say how did she drown
but that wasn't really what they wanted they wanted to know where and I had to like fill them
in that it was a jacuzzi and I it's like there's just this pause after you say it
where I have to be like you know she wasn't shooting a music video or anything like it wasn't
it it was like and then I have to get into all the gory details of like how someone drowns in
a jacuzzi and and people would just be staring at me like they wanted to get to know me but like not
that well you know yeah no right people ask questions that they really don't want the answers to all the time
and i'll answer like i'm that's my problem is that i will fully fill you in but then you're
just staring at me with your mouth agape like what well i okay well that's the end of this
conversation you know yeah yeah it's a tricky conversation because people always feel guilty and they say,
oh, I'm so sorry when people ever ask me about my brother.
They go, oh my, if they don't know about my brother,
Donnie, you're like, I'm so sorry.
It's like, okay, it's not your fault.
Like, you didn't fucking kill him.
Like, I mean, it's past the point
of me needing to hear that.
But, you know, people just are probably,
they don't know what to say.
Yeah, it's like an immediate reaction.
People go, i'm so sorry
and then you're in the position of having to comfort them over something that happened to you
a long long time ago a long time ago and it's the weirdest moment and i feel like the way that our
culture deals with grief and death and like loss of life is we just don't want to touch it we don't
want to like actually deal with it.
We try to keep it clean. We try to keep it nice and it's messy and it should be. And it's one of
those moments where it absolutely should be as messy as it is. Yeah. But it's also, we have such
a repressed way. I remember going to my first black funeral. I went to a gospel funeral when
I was like nine or 10 years old because my friend's grandmother died and he was black.
And it was like the biggest celebration I'd ever been to.
And I just came home and I'm Jewish.
So we have the worst funerals.
It's like and they go on for seven days of sitting Shiva.
Yeah.
And I remember being like, this is the way to do it.
This is the way when someone dies, you celebrate their life.
Obviously, that's different when it's a child because you're not celebrating.
You know, that's devastating to parents and it's devastating to children to
lose a young one. But when you give something any space, any tragedy, any space, that always becomes
there becomes a funny way to talk about it. And that's just the way it is. And that can upset
people. But it's just so true. And it's also a way to deal with your own grief. You know,
humor is the best outlet for grief. Absolutely. I think
that her dying is the reason why I find sad things funny. I think that's like that was the thing that
just made me immediately my sense of humor was sort of like a graveside sense of humor. And to
this day still is. And did you do therapy? Have you done a lot of therapy yeah I mean I don't think I would be able to write jokes about this stuff if I hadn't been to therapy I I truly owe my therapist
like my entire act you know because I wouldn't have been able to talk about any of it you know
and I also feel like it would be psychotic of me to try if I hadn't worked all of this out and taken care of myself before taking
it to the stage it would be not only would it not be funny it would be very sad it would be like
somebody trying to make sense of something through like the applause of strangers it just
you know right but I love therapy I've been in therapy for eight
nine years now are you still in therapy yes I was forced into therapy at a young age though so I
I was like because of your sister no just because I was fat and my parents were like something's
wrong and uh very waspy background and they were like we got to get her into therapy and it's like
maybe you're just having four or five kids and i'm hoarding food because i'm worried about supplies
exactly exactly but they uh they sent me into therapy really young and i hated it i like hated
it i lied to therapists there are therapists out there who still think I have four sisters because I just didn't bring up the fact that I had a dead one and like was just not even going
to touch it. Yeah, right. It wasn't until like I got sober and then six years after getting sober
when nothing had gotten better, I was like, OK, I have to go into therapy for myself.
So what age did you get sober? I got sober at 24, 24. Yeah. Because it was
unmanageable. Yes. It was very bad. It was like blacking out, blacking out almost every time.
And then oftentimes like trying to hurt myself, trying to like run into traffic or like run at the edge of a roof and
then coming out of this blackout being like, ah, like what's happening, you know? And then
everyone around me being just devastated and me pointing at them and being like, you're being
overdramatic. I'm fine. I was drunk. Relax. You know? So it wasn't fun. It wasn't like drinking with me as a 24 year old woman, girl, really.
It was more like drinking with a 72 year old man.
Like it was whose wife had taken everything.
It was not a fun experience.
It wasn't a party.
It was like I started the night wanting it to be a party.
But then at the end of the night, I'd be like, what happened? Yeah. I feel like some people have
an allergy to alcohol. Yeah. Like you have an allergic reaction to alcohol. Like when people
call in the show all the time about addiction and stuff like that. And it's like it's just not for
some people. You have to treat it like you're allergic to it, like you're allergic to peanuts.
Yeah. If you have them, it's going to go gonna go badly everything is gonna be bad for the so did anyone intervene like what were the circumstances around
you getting sober no one intervened I just got myself to a place where I pushed everyone in my
life away and isolated myself to the point where I had no one to blame anymore so I didn't want
anybody to get in the way of the way that I liked to drink.
But then when everyone was gone, I was like, oh, now I can't blame my drinking on anyone else.
So I really just got to a point where I was alone and had no explanation for why my life was so
shitty except for the person in the mirror. And's kind of how it happened I mean I remember
like the day that I got sober waking up on my floor no idea how I'd gotten home and looking
in the mirror and wanting to cry but not even being able to because I just I remember looking
at myself trying to cry and going you are so full of shit like just knowing that I was
full of shit and being like I know my own number I know what's happening and it was really people
talk about like having a moment of clarity before they drink it really was that like it was it's
it's almost too on the nose you know like me looking in the mirror and like really seeing myself for the first time in a
long time. And then the night before someone had given me their number to like call them in case I
needed to get sober. Just a random person on the street that I had invited to come drink with me
was like, you need help, like an absolute stranger. And I called her that day and then went to like go to a 12-step meeting with her that night
and I just got sober it was the weirdest the weirdest thing because it was so anticlimactic
and what do you think that was do you think that was like a divine act do you believe in God or do
you think like what do you believe in I believe in God not in the sense of like I really kind of like
bristle when you talk about God in the way that I was brought up to think of God like punishing
even the sense of karma where people talk about like oh if you do this something bad is going to
happen to you later like people talk about karma in that way I'm like no that's like a Christian
God that you're talking about but you're applying that to. I'm like, no, that's like a Christian God that you're talking about, but you're applying that to karma. I really think it was just that there's like,
we have a higher wisdom within ourselves and we're, there's so much noise in our heads. It's
really hard to hear it. And for me, I just had this moment where like things got quiet enough
for me to go, oh, you need to you need to ask for help.
And I'm glad I didn't know that asking for help was even like an option or a thing that people do.
I still to this day have like real problems with asking for help.
I could have both dogs.
I'm walking both dogs.
I'm carrying all the recycling downstairs.
I'm talking on the phone and I'm trying to unlock a door.
And my husband's like, can I carry something for you? And I'm like, no, I've got it.
And he's like, you don't. You don't have anything. You are a mess. And so and I'm like, I got it,
you know. So it was just this one moment where I was relaxed enough to ask and desperate enough
to ask. Yeah, I like what you're saying about higher wisdom within you, because we do all have this reservoir of self-esteem.
We have this reservoir of confidence.
We have this reservoir of wisdom.
And it's up to us to, like, listen to that voice instead of the other, you know, ego-based things or impulsivity and, like, not really thinking with your higher self, which also makes me cringe, too.
But, like, I've gotten down on my knees
and I do this regularly to say, thank you, God.
And I say, God, but I don't mean that, you know,
I mean like whatever is going on in the universe,
whatever organizing principles that we don't know about
that are happening, thank you.
Thank you for fucking making that happen
and making this happen and making my life pleasurable and not painful, you know, overall and all of those things.
So and that's well, it's a good segue into taking some calls because it's a good thing for women to constantly remind each other of, you know, that you do have it within you.
It's like so many people think that they don't have that.
It's like we all have it.
It's just are you able to tap into it?
And do you care enough to make the effort and to actually listen to your real voice? Right. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay,
great. So let's Catherine or shall we take some calls for Rosebud and myself? Yeah. And let's
take a quick ad break first and we'll come back with some callers. Okay. Sounds good.
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Our first question comes from E. Dear Chelsea, I'm in a new relationship. The network? Is this E, the network? I told them not to fucking contact me again.
No exclamation point, unfortunately. I'm in a new relationship about five months. He's super hot,
and the sex is unreal. We have a great relationship, but when he
gets really drunk, he makes rude comments to me. For example, he'll say, you're such an idiot,
you say the dumbest things, or this is one of the reasons I don't want to be with you.
He always says sorry in the morning, but I just don't get what his deal is. I know he loves me,
and his friends always tell me how much he loves me, but I'm pissed off with the rude comments
when he's drunk.
Please let me know if this is a red flag or if I can fix it.
Cheers, E.
Well, I'll start with a personal story of my own.
That is the kind of behavior that is excusable one or two times if you're drinking.
Nothing really more than that.
It cannot be an habitual thing.
I did that with Joe, actually, in the beginning of our relationship. I got really wasted and I said some really nasty things, not to him, but just nasty things
that were not in my that are not in my character, but clearly are somewhere in my brain because
they came out of my mouth.
I'm going to blame Agua Caliente, the casino on my behavior because of the decor and the extreme heat. But we still,
he and I still talk about whenever anything is bordering or things are getting over the edge,
he goes agua caliente because he didn't speak to me for three days. And this was at the very
beginning of our relationship. And I won't repeat what I said because it was pointless. But the
point is that is not ever going to happen again, because I will not allow that to
ever happen again. So, you know, you make the first time the last time. But if this is a habitual
thing with him, then that is a problem. You know, you can't be spoken to like that by somebody that
is supposed to love you, regardless of what his friends say. So if he only says that when he
drinks, then he needs to be mindful when he drinks. And if he can't control himself when he drinks,
then he can't drink. So those are the options. And I would be curious, do we have
her on the phone? No, this one was just an email. But I mean, the fact that she ends it with,
is it something I can fix? We've all been there. That was the thing for me where I was like, oh,
no, no, no, no. You can't fix it at all. This is one of those things where if I were in this position, I would
go, okay, I've said this can't happen again and it's happened. So am I ready to leave now? Or how
many times more can this happen before I head out the door? Because I would just immediately be like,
I have to be really strict about boundaries like that. And even if I feel like, OK, I'm just not ready to
leave right this second, I'm going to let it happen max twice more and then I'm out, you know,
and let him know this is how it is. I'm going to go. The rest is up to him. You really have to put
it in his lap. I mean, the sex might be great, but there's great sex everywhere. Yeah, there is.
There's great sex everywhere. There are seven billion people on the planet, you know, like you can't be called an idiot.
Like once I get it, people make mistakes. That's fine, but not repeatedly. So if it's something
that's happened multiple times, then you actually need to set a boundary and that, you know, and it
has to do with drinking. Yeah. Yeah. That's tricky, too, because it's like it might not change. I mean, if I were in that position, I would be like my bet is that it's not going to change because I'm if I start to immediately go, he'll he'll do it. He'll change. It'll be fine. Then I get stuck in a pattern of not being able to leave someone that I don't belong with, you know. Right. Yeah. So it's tricky. But you have to have really good boundaries. You have to get out of there if you if you can. Yeah. Well, what was the writer's name? E. E. Oh, yeah. Right. Of course. E. Okay. So hopefully that will help you because, yeah, you have to be respected. Remember that, you know, if you wouldn't accept it for your sister or your daughter or your niece, then you don't accept it for yourself. Yeah. Amen. Amen. As-salamu alaykum.
Well, our next submission comes from a caller, Diana. She says, Dear Chelsea,
my partner and I do not plan on having kids. I never felt the urge and place high value on my
independence. I'm now in my mid-30s and all of my friends' lives revolve around their children.
I find we have little to talk about and it's hard to make plans due to our different lifestyles.
They're also able to make new friends through their kids, an outlet I obviously don't have.
I feel like I don't have any strong friendships anymore, and I'm struggling to meet new people because of my choice to be child-free.
My husband can't relate at all.
His friendships are pretty much unchanged, despite him being the only one who's child-free of his friends.
Must be a guy thing.
What advice do you have to help me maintain my current friendships
as well as find some new like-minded friends?
Diana.
Well, that's good because I'm, you know, steadfastly childless,
and I take a lot of pride in that.
But I also have a lot of girlfriends that have children,
and that's fine too because I do like children. I just don't want my own. I mean, I don't love them.
I like them, though. And when I have good friends, I love their children just by virtue of loving
them. So I would say, A, you have to make a little bit more of an effort with your friends that are
married with children to let them know that you're down for that, too, because that's part of the
package. You know, some friends have children and then that becomes their package and it's your level
of tolerance. And if you really care about those relationships, oh, well we have Diana right here.
I always forget what kind of podcast this is. Diana. Hi. Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm good. How
are you? Good. This is Rosebud. Meet Diana. Hi Diana. Hi Hi, Rosebud. Hi, Chelsea. So nice to meet you.
Aw. So do you feel like you're putting an effort forth with your friends who have children?
I am. To be honest, though, I have nothing to add sometimes to the conversations. And maybe
it's just the point in life I'm at, but where my friends all have younger children. And that's
really all they want to talk about.
Yeah.
Anything going on in my life, we'll talk about it for maybe 30 seconds.
And then it's like, oh, okay, look what my four-year-old did.
Isn't it annoying when this person says that?
Yeah.
So it's a little frustrating.
So I almost feel like I'm putting the effort in, but maybe it's not reciprocated.
Okay.
I'm in the same position. My best friend just had a kid.
And every time she picks up FaceTime, the FaceTime is on her child who can't speak.
And I'm like, I love this kid because I love my friend, like you said.
But it's you think you're going to lose your friend to like a new boyfriend.
This is like a million times worse.
You know, this is just it's so it's so hard because
it's all she talks about also there's no chance of them breaking up there's no chance I mean I
keep being like I can't wait for this kid to be 18 and but it really is like it's first of all
I'm sorry that you're going through this because it is hard it's it makes you sad even though you're
happy for your friend it does make you sad but I think that in terms of like making new friends, what do you do?
I'm a CPA.
You're a CPA.
OK, so are there people at work that you're that are child free or?
Yeah, I have a couple of friends.
So the problem with work is that which is not a problem.
I'm the boss.
So, OK, I can't really.
It's hard to make friends with your employees like you're actually not really supposed to do that.
Yeah, right.
That's annoying.
They're going to be like, oh, the boss is going through something.
She's really trying to make friends with all of us.
Yeah, exactly.
Like no one wants that to begin with.
So yeah, so there's that.
But even in my day to day, like at the gym or places I go normally, there's really not
a lot of us out there.
Yeah. Where do you live? I live in New York. I live on Long Island.
Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, what do you do? What are the things that you do outside of work?
You go to the gym. What do you have? So I belong to a CrossFit gym, which is known to be like very
social, which it is outside of that. There's, I work a lot, which is probably
not a great answer. I see family a lot. I have a close, close knit extended family, but yeah,
the pandemic is probably part of it. Right. Yeah. That kind of exacerbated everything, right?
Anything that's not great in your life is exacerbated by the pandemic because it's just,
everybody became so reclusive and like stayed in within their like kind of nuclear families. But I would say, what were you going to say,
Rosebud? I was going to say that, you know, adding more hobbies to your life and sort of
enriching your own life, you will, I mean, friends will be a byproduct of that. But just
if your friends aren't putting the kind of interest into your life that you would want them to,
I think putting your own interests into your life,
that's going to benefit you even more.
And it won't matter whether or not they're asking about what you're up to
because you're going to be so into what you're up to
that you don't mind talking about their kids
because their lives are going to seem boring to you.
I mean, it'll be like community service, you know, I mean,
and that's not shitting on life with kids. I'm just saying, I think the more you have going on,
the less it's going to matter to you what they think of it or what they're asking about it.
Yeah. I mean, I've had friends who overdo it with their babies and think that I'm going to be like
a godmother or like their auntie. And it's like, hey, know me less. Okay. I've been very clear about how I feel about newborn babies. And if you have a baby,
that's your baby, not my baby. So don't put me on a FaceTime with your baby. I had a friend who did
that. We were away on vacation and she must've FaceTimed her baby 15 times one day. And every
single time put me on the phone with her. And so I said, Hey, you've got like, that's an extreme
example of the situation.
But I think I couldn't agree with Rosebud more because it's like, when you have your own stuff
going on, like you do need to find new hobbies. You need to like, you know, whatever you're
interested in athletic wise, change it up, go to a different CrossFit, join an outdoor gym,
join a sailing club or any of these like very corny sounding things is how single people actually
facilitate new relationships, whether
they're romantic or whether they're non-romantic. It's like, that's how you make friends is by
changing the dynamics of your day-to-day life and actually putting yourself out there in a different
way. It's like what people have to experience when they want to date somebody. It's like,
oh fuck, how do I do it? It's the same thing for finding new friends, you know,
because you're not alone. There are millions of single women out there that are just like you. You know, I'm like you. I'm not I'm not ever going to have a kid.
So I get it. But I do believe when you do fill up your own kind of cup, you know, then you're not
looking at how full other people's cups are. You're kind of just all right at your little tea party,
so to speak. And you're not going to be annoyed by having to hear about two or three year olds, no matter how annoying that is, which it is. It is annoying when a person
becomes a parent and their entire identity is locked into being a mommy. It's infuriating.
It really is. It's like watching your friend just vaporize in front of you. It's very sad.
Oh, absolutely. It's so interesting because my husband is not going through this at all.
Like his friends barely talk about their kids. Men don't talk about anything interesting. They
have four stories each. You know what I mean? They all have four stories on the save drafts
folder. Yeah. And it's boring and it's, there's no depth. And so I can understand why you feel
that way with regard, but Hey, listen, at least you have a husband. There you go. That's true. Right?
There you go. Home run on that. So what kind of hobbies do you think of off the top of your head
that you could get into?
I do wish I had more time to volunteer. So I can always make that time. I have a couple of rescue
dogs. So who I love and I love the organization I got them from. So it probably would be a good thing to go
and do some volunteer work with them. Yeah. And what about taking your dogs to the dog park?
There's people all the time at dog parks. That's like a big hookup spot. Yeah. I've never brought
them to one where I'm living. Yeah. I think there's like there's so many child free people
living in the world and especially around New York and around the coasts, I think less so maybe in the Midwest.
But I think that our generation is actually the first generation that is I would say it's really split.
Like having kids is an actual choice, a lifestyle choice.
And a lot of us are opting out.
And I think that it might be hard to be that example. But if you think
of yourself as that, as like you're an inspiration to people that might not really ever want kids
that would that would have had them because they felt like they had to, you know. Yeah. And also
like, you know, a good example of this is in my life. I went skiing. I love skiing and that's my
hobby. And I went skiing last year for four months. I went to Whistler, Canada and I went by myself because the borders were closed. I couldn't go
with my family. I'd never gone to Whistler alone without friends or family before. So I had to make
friends and I had never had to, I haven't had to make new friends in a really long time. And I
became like a local yokel in Whistler and I had made like eight awesome, great girlfriends. Some
of them are single. Some of them are single. Some
of them are married. We just went on a trip to Spain together for two weeks, all eight of us.
And I mean, I'm 46 years old and these are my girlfriends from like, you know, I just met them
last year. So you're always meeting people, especially when you find something that you're
excited about, whether it's like, you know, I, I have a problem listing hobbies. Cause they,
I'm like, I want to say, what did they do in that Demi Moore movie?
Which one?
Ghost.
Ghost.
Where she was.
Pottery.
When I say hobbies, all I can think of is pottery.
That's why my skin crawls every time I say hobby because I'm like pottery.
No, I don't mean pottery.
But like wind surfing, kite surfing, fucking going to the beach, you know, doing yoga outdoor, going into like group meditation, any of that shit that you're
interested in.
You can find a place to do that in large groups.
And, you know, and now it's safer to do that.
So you can put yourself out there a little bit more.
And I guarantee you, you will meet some people that you're interested in hanging out with.
Yeah.
Live a life that people with kids are jealous of.
Yeah.
You know?
I'm sure they're a little bit jealous.
They just won't admit it.
Right.
Make them more jealous
and make them all realize what a big mistake they've made.
And keep us posted.
Let us know how that goes.
Let us know how your progress goes.
But you're fine.
Listen, you're normal.
You're really attractive.
You're smart.
You have a great job. You have a husband. There's like, there's, you're not, you're not
threatening. You're a perfect person to be friends with. So yeah, the opportunity is there. So go for
it. Thank you, Chelsea. Thank you. You're so welcome. You're so welcome. Nice speaking to you.
Yeah, you too. Nice to meet you. Take care. Well, we have probably room for one more.
Okay.
We have how to date in New York while sober or secret baby and anger around that.
Secret baby?
We're going to have to go for that.
I think we have to go with secret baby.
She's actually on the line as well.
Okay, great.
All right, Secret Baby it is.
Our next question comes from a caller named Lee.
She says, Dear Chelsea, last year before the pandemic, I started dating a man who I've known for almost 10 years.
We dated for about six months.
Things weren't going great.
I knew he was not the one, and eventually we broke up, but not before I ended up pregnant with his child. I'm 35. I have a career and a good life.
I didn't always want to be a mother, but something about this pregnancy felt right.
I knew I was going to keep the baby, and nothing would change my mind.
At first, he asked if we could co-parent, but eventually it became clear that he didn't want
to be part of the baby's life, so I decided to have the baby and raise her on my own, with no help from him physically or
financially. Here I am five months later, and my daughter is the greatest joy. And yet at times I
find myself angry. Angry because he has a 17-year-old daughter who has no idea about her
half-sister. Angry because he got back together with the girl he was in a relationship with before
me, and she has no clue about me or my baby.
Angry that they bought a brand new expensive home together, and yet he hasn't given a penny to his child.
I'm angry for so many reasons, but most of all, I'm angry because she deserves better than to be kept a secret.
So my question is this. How do I let go of the anger?
Hi, Leigh.
Hi.
Hi, Leigh. Hi. How are you? I'm doing well. How are you guys?
We're doing well. Thanks. Okay. First of all, you need to get the book Letting Go
by David Hawkins. Okay. Yeah, that is a great book. Do you know the book? Yeah. I read this
book all the time because it's about letting go of shit that a you are the architect of first of
all. So let's remember that.
Because you made these rules
and you created these boundaries with him
about not being involved.
So you can't be angry at that
because that was your decision.
If you want to change your decision,
then that's a separate conversation
that you can have with him, right?
Moving forward.
But right now, you deciding to have this baby
without help from him financially,
without help from him emotionally, blah, blah, blah. That was your decision, no?
No, that was. That was my decision. I mean, he made it pretty clear that he didn't want anything
to do with the baby. But I mean, in the end, it was my decision.
Right. And are you in a position now where you actually need help from him?
No.
Okay. So where, so is the resentment, where's the resentment coming from? Is it on behalf of
the baby or on behalf of your daughter? Yeah, definitely. Like, I just, I just feel angry that
like, how could you just not tell anybody about her? Like, how could you just keep her a complete
secret? Like, I feel like she deserves a little bit more than that. And also I feel like maybe a little bit guilty
that I brought her into this world
and she's not gonna have a father figure.
So I think underneath the anger, there's a lot.
Well, I had a father figure and he did jack shit for me.
So I just want you to know,
it's not necessarily the best thing to have a dad.
Yeah, that's a great point. Listen, I mean,
the way you're talking about him and the way he sounds, you know, saying he wants nothing to do
with the baby. It's like you are doing her a favor. You know, you're just looking at it from
a different vantage point. And if you look at it from that kind of her view, it's different. Like
you don't just want anybody in your daughter's life. You want the right person in your daughter's
life, which hopefully you're going to meet, you know, sooner than later. Yeah. And you should be focusing your attention
and your energy on that positivity rather than looking in the rearview mirror and thinking about
his other daughter who gives a shit. She probably fucking hates him, too, anyway. Yeah. You know,
you're there for your daughter. You're enjoying how much you love your daughter. I had a similar
conversation like this with my cousin because the father of her two children
also walked out.
He's never seen them.
These two kids are adorable, beautiful.
They're older now.
And she I remember us being in Mexico and her not being able to let go of the resentment
that she had that he didn't get to understand how amazing these two kids were.
And I was like, yes, but he's never going to understand.
You're here because you do understand how amazing these two kids were. And I was like, yes, but he's never going to understand. You're here because you
do understand how amazing these two kids are. So instead of focusing on what you don't have,
focusing on what you can have, you know, you can find a guy or a partner or whatever you're into
at some point that is going to appreciate everything you've done on your own and is
going to look at you and go, wow, what a strong fucking woman to know to leave that guy out of it. And a huge opportunity for a guy who wants children to,
you know, to be with somebody who's got a child and is raising her by herself,
who's completely capable and competent. You know, these are all signs of extreme strength.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's I think that you have so much to look forward to. And you right now it's hard because it's five months later. I mean, you have a five month old baby. It's it it's natural that you would look at him and be like, I can't believe you don't want any part of, you know, because it's overwhelming. It's like it's just mind bogglingly overwhelming and hard. But I think that eventually you're going to be so happy that you made the decision that you did and that you don't have to be involved with him.
And then he can just be someone that brought you to your daughter.
And then you don't have to look at him with such resentment.
You can look at him as like, you know, he's like a non thing.
But he he was the person that brought you your daughter. So, yeah, that's a great way to look at him as like, you know, he's like a non thing, but he, he was the person that brought
you your daughter. So yeah, that's a great way to look at it. You know, some people are there
just to deliver something. Right. And, and so many men are just there to deliver semen. And
that's pretty much all that they are useful for. And that's what you got. You got a beautiful baby
girl that you're enjoying and you need to focus on your love for her. Yeah. And you can call him
a sperm donor. You can just call him a sperm donor.
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
You know, when your daughter grows up
and she's like, I want to meet,
if she ever asks to meet him,
you can say, I have a sperm donor.
He's not your father, but I have a sperm donor.
Yeah.
And then how cool is it that you worked that hard
to get your baby, you know?
Yeah.
So this narrative is working on both sides of things.
We're basically encouraging her to lie to her daughter, but, you know, but no, it's not a lie because he is a sperm donor. He is.
What else did he do? Right. Absolutely. Right. And you'll also as soon as you start date,
are you I mean, you're obviously not dating anybody right now. You sound like you're probably
pretty busy with your baby. Yeah. Yeah. As soon as you start dating people and getting out there
and you're feeling ready to do that, you're going to realize that you're all fine. You know, this is all good. And there's
going to be more opportunities for having him out of your life than not for having him out of your
life. Agreed. Amen. I hear that. I hear that. Thank you. Do you have anything else you want to
add, Lee? No, not really. I mean, I, like you said, I don't,
I don't need anything from him. I guess it's more of let it go and look forward. And,
but seriously pick up that book by, by David Hawkins. I think it's David Hawkins, right?
Is that his name? The author letting go, let it go. Read that book. It's, it's, it's, it's like
deep, but it really explains to you what you're holding on to when you hold
on to like negative thought patterns and negative energy.
And you don't want to spread that around to your daughter.
No, not at all.
Really.
So start there and report back.
Will do.
Okay.
Thanks, Leigh.
Thanks, guys.
Bye.
Bye.
Yeah, I would.
Because he would just be a second child.
Yeah.
It's funny though, when people have babies, they want everyone to love the baby the way they do. I would. Because he would just be a second child. Yeah, it's funny though, when people have babies,
they want everyone to love the baby the way they do.
I know.
Right?
Yeah.
So that's like my friend who was FaceTiming with her baby.
It's like, no, no, I'm not the father of your baby.
Right.
And we're not even related.
But like people want that.
They want to share that.
And they want everyone to see how great their baby is.
Yeah.
And it's like, yeah, it's just you should be enjoying it.
Yeah, exactly.
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So, Chelsea, I got an email this week, and it was from someone who has an email that's very close to our dear
Chelsea project at gmail.com email. She said occasionally she gets emails from our listeners
looking for advice. She's directed a few over to us. And when people talk about tough stuff,
it gets hard not to acknowledge their pain. So she is going to forward those messages to us.
She said people seem to really love the show. Keep up the good work. And her name is also Chelsea. Oh, and she has a Dear Chelsea email. OK, so let's clarify for people.
It's Dear Chelsea Project, right? Correct. At Gmail dot com. Dear Chelsea Project at Gmail dot
com. OK, so everybody send your emails to Dear Chelsea Project at Gmail dot com. Please don't
hit up other Chelsea's
because we want obviously this to come our way
so that we can help you
so you don't feel like you're being ignored
because you're emailing the wrong person.
Yeah, so we can stop spamming the wrong Chelsea.
Yeah, I'm glad to know
there are so many Chelsea's out there.
I like to take credit for that.
And we have another little quick question as well.
I should get a bunch of these.
This is from Mickey. Mickey says, I'm in a predicament. I really want to go to the vaccinated and horny tour. But the problem is I don't have anyone that will go with me. Either they don't appreciate comedy or they're yourself. What's the issue there? People go to shows by themselves all the time.
My friend just went to go see Joe Coy by herself because she was in New York City and he was
playing Radio City and she's like, I don't have anyone to go with.
And I said, go alone.
And then she said, of course, you went alone.
Yeah, go alone.
That's fine.
I like that no one will go with you, though.
That's funny.
I personally love to go to like a movie theater or whatever alone.
So I used to go.
I used to go to the movies all the time by myself.
I loved going to the movie theater by myself.
I haven't done that in about 10 years, mostly because it feels like movie theaters shut down before COVID for some reason.
It feels like they've been shut down for a long time.
It seems like an antiquated notion going to the movies.
But I would like to go back one day alone.
Also, I have what shows do I have coming up this week?
I have Rochester, Buffalo, and Syracuse.
If you haven't gotten tickets to Rochester, Buffalo, or Syracuse, you can still get them.
And we just added second shows to Toronto, Vancouver, Seattle, and Winnipeg.
So second shows have been added in all of those markets because my Canadians love me and I love my Canadians.
So I will either see you in Canadian land or American land.
You decide.
Well, Catherine, what was the theme of today's?
I mean, I get a secret baby, but it's not a secret.
Yeah.
Wild card.
You know, relationships.
We had a bad boyfriend.
We talked a lot about sobriety today and not
having kids. I'm just happy I have a new sober friend, Rosebud, to be completely honest. Yeah.
Because usually I try and steer clear of sober people. Well, most of us are admittedly very
preachy. I've met a lot of us that are a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Well, sometimes I meet people that
get sober. Like I have these two gay friends, Kevin and Brian, that I've been friends with for
like 20 years, 25 years. And they, one of them got sober when he was 18. And I was like, Brian,
that I cannot take that seriously. Because at 18, we're all fucking alcoholics. I'm like,
you didn't even give yourself a chance to experiment and try and control yourself.
You just assume that you, because you had it in your family,
you had to give up alcohol.
I'm like, I disagree with that notion.
You have to prove that, first of all,
you have to prove that you live up to the family hype.
You know, you got to really test it out.
Do you have a lot of alcoholism in your family?
I do.
I have a lot of alcoholism in my family.
I've got an uncle and an aunt that met in rehab.
Well, one of, she's dead now, but I never really knew her like they were together.
And then they gave each other like hepatitis and that one's dead anyway.
And my mom is an alcoholic. She's sober. My dad is definitely questionable.
I mean, I really do think that it's like up to people to decide if they are,
you know? Yeah. Yeah, of course. Of course. It's not up for other people. Right. But
yeah. So I just go, well, he loves to drink. I know that. Yeah. Yes. You know what, Chelsea,
I wanted to get a little piece of advice from you while I was coming over here. I was thinking
about this. Oh, wonderful. I love I love questions. I love questions and I love answers.
Absolutely. I was dying to ask this because I have been struggling so hard with work life balance where I truly I'll be with my husband on a date.
And then I get an email and I'm like, I'm checking the email or I'm like doing I'm just constantly I'm in a place in my career where I
can't really slow down and I can tell that it's annoying him but he's also like totally
understandable he's in the same industry he gets it so I'm just wondering how you how to do this
work-life balance thing that I hear so much about and I never see anybody really nailing it.
Like I read this book called Essentialism, which talks about not doing even if you're walking down the street and you're on your phone, you're doing both of those things poorly.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So if you're out to dinner with your husband and you're checking your phone, like there
is nothing that can't wait an hour.
There just isn't.
Yeah.
You know, and if there is something that can't wait an hour, you shouldn't be out to dinner.
You know, so like when you're out and you're having times, like it's just healthier for everyone. I know you want to
hustle and I know you're at a point in your career where you feel like, okay, there's all these
opportunities happening. And absolutely you're right. You should hustle. You should be paying
attention. You want to lay the foundation so that you can have all the time in the world later to do
whatever the fuck you want. Right. But there's no harm and you will reap benefits when you set
aside time for the people you love so that it is just you and him. And there's no harm and you will reap benefits when you set aside time for the people you love so that it is just you and him and there are no phones and there are no emails and just commit yourself to that.
Even if it's two hours a week.
You know what I mean?
Whatever you can do a day, if it's 30 minutes a day, you know, at dinner or like an hour at dinner or whatever you can afford to do you at a certain time of day.
It doesn't matter if you get back to people 30 minutes later right then so it's just about making that commitment
and it's like it's just no fun to be around somebody who's constantly distracted yeah so
if you and that is who I am I truly am always distracted so just start out with a tiny little
thing every big problem takes one little step and then all of a sudden you're like oh this is so much more manageable you know and if you just say hey from seven to eight you and
I aren't going to be on our phones or if you're performing and you want to make it a different
time like in the morning you like you have an hour of no phone time just do that so that he
feels like you're present that you love him that he's the priority because so many times it can
feel like your career is the priority I don't know if i want him to feel like the priority well i mean for a half an hour maybe and the rest of
the day he's gonna feel like shit anyway so why not just give him that one half okay yeah that's
fair you know but i mean i'm all about vacation time because i fucking relish it i just love it
you know like even joe is like he's like i've never been in a situation where i wanted to be
travel the world with someone i was like buddy that's what i I've never been in a situation where I wanted to be travel the world with someone. I was like, buddy, that's what I'm doing. Like we're doing that. And he's like, no, no,
I want to, I want to now, you know, we've worked so hard. And it's like, the problem is like,
we don't think about that when we're coming up. We just want to get the credit and we want to get
like, yeah, we want our place in this business. And there's a hunger and there's a clawiness and desperation about that yeah that
isn't it has to be balanced with focused attention on a person that you love and focus attention on
something you love so i would just say that about that great problem solved another problem solved
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beach yes listen to her podcast find your beach everybody i hope you have a wonderful day in new
york city thank you i hope you are you are you taking off after this yeah where are you headed
we're going back to la oh nice yeah all right how's the house in la are you in Where are you headed? We're going back to LA. Oh, nice. Yeah. All right. How's the house in LA? Are you in the, are you in your house now? No, I just bought a new house in LA. Okay. Yeah.
I'd sold my house when my family invaded my house during COVID because I realized there were too
many bedrooms and they all wanted to live there and they did. And then I put the house on the
market and I was like, I'm downsizing. I only want two bedrooms. I don't want any visitors.
Yeah. And then of course I bought a house exactly like the old house I had. So obviously, no plans I make ever come to fruition.
I'm just like, completely in denial about my own existence. I love it. I know. I'm like,
I'm gonna just get like a pied-a-terre. And I'm like, where? In LA? They don't even fucking have
those. And then my friend's like, why don't you move in with Joe? I'm like, he lives in Studio
City. Do not get carried away.
I cannot make it over to the Valley.
Yeah, no, no, no.
That's not going to happen.
But enjoy.
I hope you have a good flight back.
And I hope you enjoy your 14-bedroom pied-a-terre.
What I'm looking forward to most on my return flight is the announcement that the pilot makes at the beginning of the flight instructing people not to hit the flight attendants.
So, I mean, can you fucking believe people?
Anyway, have a great day, everybody.
We'll be back next week.
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