Dear Chelsea - “Totally Booked with Zibby: Chelsea Handler”
Episode Date: June 29, 2025Today, we are sharing Chelsea’s recent interview on the Webby Award-winning daily podcast Totally Booked with Zibby. Hosted by Zibby Owens – the powerhouse bookstore owner and bestselling ...author dubbed "NYC's Most Powerful Book-fluencer" by Vulture – Totally Booked delivers interviews with the best, buzziest, and underrated authors to share work that’s truly worth your time. In this specific episode, you’ll hear all about Chelsea’s recent New York Times bestselling book I’ll Have What She’s Having, in addition to her takes on relationships, independence and solitude, and handling criticism. She also shares unforgettable life moments – from a transformative encounter with Jane Fonda to skiing in Whistler to an unexpected visit to Kennebunkport, where three edibles helped her keep her cool. For more episodes, follow Totally Booked with Zibby on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get podcasts. New episodes are released daily!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So what happened at Chappaquiddick?
Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
There are many versions of what happened in 1969
when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond.
And left a woman behind to drown.
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death
and how the Kennedy machine took control.
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Hi, it's Catherine. We're sharing Chelsea's recent interview on the Webby award-winning
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Chelsea Handler is the author of I'll Have What She's Having.
Chelsea is a comedian, television host,
six-time New York Times bestselling author and advocate,
whose humor and candor have established her
as one of the most celebrated voices
in entertainment and pop culture.
After a strong seven-year run as the host of E!s top-rated Chelsea Lately, a tenure
in which she was the only female late-night talk show host on air, she launched her documentary
series Chelsea Does, followed by her talk show Chelsea on Netflix in 2016.
She has penned six New York Times bestselling books, five of which have reached number one,
including 2019's Life Will Be the Death of Me.
Her upcoming seventh book, A New Memoir in Essays, I'll Have What She's Having, will
publish February 25th, 2025.
In 2021, she launched her iHeart Radio Advice podcast Dear Chelsea and embarked on the Vaccinated
and Horny Tour, bringing her sensational stand-up
set to over 90 cities with 115 shows across North America and winning the Comedy Act of
2021 at the People's Choice Awards.
Following the success of her 2020 HBO Max Comedy Special Evolution, which earned Chelsea
a Grammy nomination for Best Comedy Album, she made her return to Netflix with her critically
acclaimed 2022 comedy special Revolution.
Handler is currently on her stand-up tour,
Chelsea Handler Live, and recently kicked off
her Las Vegas residency, Chelsea at the Chelsea
at the Cosmopolitan, making history as the venue's
first female comedian residency.
Welcome, Chelsea.
Thank you so much for coming on Totally Booked
to talk about I'll Have What She's Having.
Congratulations.
Thank you. Thank you. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Okay. Tell listeners what this book
is about, please. I think this book is about infusing optimism in times of despair or unease,
while also serving as a reminder for women especially
to check in with ourselves and make sure
that we are turning into the women that we wanted to become.
I love that you manifested your whole life
when you were younger.
Like this is it, this is who I wanna be,
let's see how I can make this happen.
I mean, all I said is like, I wanna be a teacher,
I wanna be a writer. Anyway, pretty impressive.
Thank you. Thank you. I think that, you know, especially now what we're experiencing as
a country and just this backlash against women, I have no doubt in us, you know, I have no
misgivings about how powerful women are. And we are in this situation right now because
of that power and because of the threat
that that serves up to people who can't deal with,
you know, women being powerful, but we're not going anywhere.
So this is just another bump in the road
because women are powerful.
We are the source of almost everything.
And we're so smart.
And like, we're finally figuring that out
as a collective, I think.
And while the backdrop is not pretty,
I'm very optimistic about what is to come.
Well, speaking of powerful women,
you early in the book have a meeting with Jane Fonda,
who gives you some rather unsavory feedback
about your behavior, which you take very well
and actually use to re-examine yourself and change.
Tell me about that and how you can take advice and not be defensive.
Well, I learned in therapy, one of the first things I learned in therapy was about being
defensive and if you are being defensive, you're usually wrong.
If you're right, you don't have to defend yourself.
You don't care.
You know the truth.
You know the sky is blue, that your eyes are that you know the laundry like the washing machine is going
I know all of those things to be true. So like
If you're right, you're right. You like, you know, you don't have to defend yourself and defending yourself
Also makes you lose control right because you're like no I did that I did do that
I did it like it's kind of just a lose-lose situation
So and then also when someone's telling you something like all you can say is thank you and if they're completely out of their tree It's kind of just a lose-lose situation.
And then also when someone's telling you something, all you can say is thank you.
And if they're completely out of their tree and they're not saying something that you
believe to be true, then who cares anyway?
It only matters if it is true.
It's easier to hear that, but less easy to internalize.
Yeah.
Yeah. less easy to internalize. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, people are always assuming that I have no,
that I have so guarded or protected,
like I just, everything rolls off my back
or that I'm so confident.
People are always saying,
where do you get your confidence from?
I'm like, where's your confidence?
Where's your confidence?
We should all be confident.
We should be instilling that in each other.
I want all of us to be confident.
I want all of our young women that are coming up in this world to experience the confidence
that I feel every day.
From your mouth to God's ears.
Let's just say that.
I hope that happens too.
That would be amazing.
You've served as a role model for a lot of people yourself.
Oopsie, whoopsie, or I don't know, I'm probably getting their names wrong.
Oopsie, whoopsie, whoopsie.
Anyway, the-
Oopsie, whoopsie.
Yes. And that was so nice.
So you date, you can tell the story, but in the book you were dating someone who got quite
attached to his kids.
You were so helpful to them.
You filled a void in their lives and maintained this relationship with them for so long.
Talk a little bit about that and sort of stepping into this role, which you funnily enough call
yourself father in this dynamic, but talk about that role and sort of inherited family
Well, there are so many people women
I mean people would never know how many children there are in my life how many children that I'm really close to
How many children that are I mean there's lots of them and not just my nieces and nephews randoms, you know random
children and
so I
Kind of found myself, you know, I've never wanted a baby, but people
automatically assume if you don't want a child or you don't, that you're, that you don't
like children. It's not that I don't like children. I just don't want one. It's not
like a pastrami sandwich. I'm not interested. You know, I can appreciate them, you know,
grid, go get one, but not for me. Like that message alone is now becoming louder.
People are saying and expressing, yes, I don't want to have a child.
That's not for me.
And I also don't want to be married.
These can be antiquated notions.
You know, when you break them all down, what are all these institutions
about, it's kind of all pretty stupid.
So I want to like, you know, get after life and really impact the young people around me to feel and instill
in them the way that I feel about the world, which is anything is possible.
To have an impact on young people's lives, like poopsie, whoopsie, and oopsie, to be
there for them, to want my attention is basically all I need.
If you need me, I'm coming.
But if you don't need me, great.
But you know, like to be of service to young people
and the amount of young people I'm able to,
whose lives I am able to impact
because I didn't have my own children,
because I don't have a family of my own to focus on,
has allowed me to grow so much
and has given me so much more, you know,
purpose and joy than I would have ever hoped to feel
as a person who never had children.
Well, I just love that.
I mean, babies as pastrami sandwiches, who knew, right?
Who knew?
You tell a lot of stories in the book about different situations you find yourself in
that are funny and sad and all the things,
one of which, which I guess could be construed as both given your points of view, but going
to Kennebunkport where other members of your family were like, yes, you have to go if you've
gotten this invitation and meeting the former president and while you're having edibles
and whatever and wearing sunglasses and trying to see him for who he
is as a man and not necessarily his beliefs and all of that. Tell me a little bit about
that story and why you put it in.
I put it in because it was just one more example of the ridiculous circumstances I find myself
in all the time. Anytime my family's with me, they're like, oh my God, it's only because
of you that these things happen. I'm like, yeah, the good and the bad. So going to Kenny Bunkport was not on my wish
list because of my political leanings. I just was not interested in that. And I'm friends
with his daughter, Barbara Bush, who is featured in the book. And they invited our family and
friends to go over there to play pickleball, another activity I'm not interested in. And I was coerced by my siblings who were like, don't take this opportunity away from
us, Chelsea, we are going to Kenny Bunport with or without you. I wanted to say good
luck getting in without me, but so we went and I, I, in order to subdue my personality,
something else I learned through therapy is to drug
myself.
Like I have to, if I'm going to deal with a person that I find difficult, I need to
take an edible and then I can deal with them.
Like I know to prepare myself for situations in ways in which I didn't before.
So like you take out the irritation of the exchange and you're kinder and nicer to the
person.
So it's a win-win.
So, and that's just as an alternative to cognitive behavioral therapy.
This is just- Exactly.
Exactly. For people who don't have time.
To take an edible. So yes, I went over there and I had taken three edibles. That's how much I
needed to make sure that I didn't confront him about anything on his property. Like, I don't want to be like that. So, and
I have a habit and a history of outbursts. So I knew that I had to really rein it in,
you know? So I did take three edibles when I got there. Barbara Lye, Barbara Bush told
me he would be getting a massage and then I would not meet him. And I met him within
five minutes of being on the pickleball court and I was, and I was,
yes, it was a ridiculous situation.
And then he showed me his personal painting collection and asked me to take my sunglasses
off and then I had to reveal to him that I was stoned.
Oh my gosh.
So you have these like moments that few people in the world have and then you you flip to Really, you know just reveling in isolation and how great it can feel to be alone and how you've learned to be alone
And how when you got to Canada to be in Whistler
You didn't mind the mandatory time to just read and hang out in your underwear or whatever
Tell me about that and and learning to accept to be alone and all of that
or whatever. Tell me about that and learning to accept to be alone and all of that.
Well, I think that it's combined because the whole point of the Bush story also, like the kind of
sub story to that is that it is another example of always remaining who you are no matter what circumstances you are in. Like I was going to always remain true to myself. So that meant taking three edibles and also telling everybody when,
you know, like being truthful about it.
Like remaining who you are in situations
like that most people in the world don't get to experience,
I think is another thing that we should all aim to be doing
is being ourselves more.
And I think the reason you get to find out who you are
is by spending time alone.
Like my time in Whistler that you were just referring to
was like the first period of time where I was an adult
and I could do just what I want, when I wanted, no one,
even though I can kind of do that,
I just have so many responsibilities elsewhere.
So I was up here just behaving like however I wanted.
And I was just walking around my underwear, smoking weed.
I read like 30 books in two weeks.
I read so many books.
And I was, at the time of my life,
I was quarantining for two weeks.
So that's why I read so many books
in that short amount of time.
And then I just got up and skied
for like 50 days in a row after.
And it just felt like I was,
I got introduced to myself.
Okay, I love that.
You can hear your internal voice kind of talking to you,
right, when you tell us about skiing and having,
you're like, why am I risking my life to chase after
two elderly women who were so much faster than me skiing?
Like, what am I doing?
And we all have those moments, right?
Like, okay, I'm in this competitive situation, but like, what am I?
I don't even want to be in this competitive situation.
Can't I just stop?
How do you think you're able, aside from obviously this great therapist who everybody listening
to this is going to want to have as a therapist after this, but how do you think for people
who it's harder for to sort of see themselves from the outside
and step aside and say like, wait a minute, look at my behavior, right?
It's a skill that you have to learn not to be so in it.
It's self-awareness, like actually thinking about how you're coming across rather than
just coming across, like considering other people's reactions to you, which is something
I never really did for so long.
So that was kind of a wake up call, you know, and I think for regular people,
it's, it's, it's just more listening and less talking.
Like there was a period of time where I just didn't really have much to say
because I was just watching everything and it was pretty, you know, it's not,
it wasn't necessarily fun,
but the gift of self-awareness is like the best gift you can give yourself.
So it's important A, to be alone.
It's important to be alone with uncomfortable feelings
and not try to have somebody else fix them or heal them.
It's important for you to go through emotions
and know that when you come out, you're gonna be okay.
And it's important for all women to know
that right when they're about to go
through a difficult situation,
that they're gonna get through it,
and there's gonna be a rainbow on the other side. I promise
you. Like we all need to know that. And I think you get that from spending time alone
and actually practicing like being really into yourself in a way, generous of spirit,
not in a way that is you have your head up your ass in a way that it allows you to give
so much more to other people, because then you're so confident
and solid that you're able to spread love and joy
and really kind of light people up when they're down
and pick people up.
That's a role that I take kind of seriously,
not kind of, I mean, I take seriously.
I really do, it makes me proud to be a woman
that will help another woman when they're in despair
or they're distraught or they're going through something difficult.
And I think we're all just realizing how important and not just realizing, but definitely in
my lifetime, it feels like a moment where women are really recognizing the power that
we have and how important it is to uplift each other.
And yeah, so I think that all comes from spending time alone. have and how important it is to uplift each other.
I think that all comes from spending time alone.
Amazing.
I don't know.
When I spend time alone and read, I don't necessarily come out with a new vantage point.
This is good.
Maybe it has to be in a ski location for it to really work.
Who knows?
It has to be intentional that you really want to get... You know what I mean?
You have to get uncomfortable with yourself.
You have to be uncomfortable to get really comfortable. So it's like, you have to be alone and you have to have
conversations that are not necessarily, you know, like you don't want to have certain conversations,
but it's important to because anything you can say, you can say with love, you don't have, not
everything has to be a conflict. And I think there's just so many benefits. Now I
spend a little bit too much time alone. Now my friends are like, okay, you can sleep all tonight.
And I'm like, okay, but I have to be home by nine. When I'm in Whistler, I feel like I'm camping.
I'm just so cozy. I just want to get into bed all the time. But yeah, I think it's very important
to be alone. Amazing.
So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
There are many versions of what happened in 1969
when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond.
And left a woman behind to drown.
There's a famous headline, I think,
in the New York Daily News.
It's Teddy escapes, blonde drowns.
And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you.
The story really became about Ted's political future,
Ted's political hopes.
Will Ted become president?
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death
and how the Kennedy machine took control.
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So what do you get from writing books?
Like, what are some of the biggest perks?
Why do you keep writing books?
What is it?
Why this book?
Like, what do you get from it?
Well, they're all different.
I mean, I started writing books that were just funny essays, and then my last book got
more serious.
I mean, it's still funny, but there's serious parts to it and a serious through line.
And then this book was very reflective. And I think what I get out of it is different at each with each book. I think this book, I'm
going to get a lot. I think I'm hitting people at the right time with what I want to say.
And if I didn't have anything to say, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say anything. Like now, at least
I can say that I wouldn't say anything at all because I had this book
It was I got this book deal when I was dating Joe Coy and I had this very public love affair and
Everyone was just so happy for us
And so this editor was like we would love for you Chelsea handler to write a book about falling in love
Like it's very unexpected. It's very public facing and I was like sure no problem, but then we broke up and I was like
Oh, whoopsie doodle. Now. And then I was like, Okay, well, maybe I can write a book about
breaking up because kind of everything you and I have been talking about is stuff that
I was applying to that breakup. Like I handled it so well. I, I didn't yell or scream. There
was no art. You know, it was just like, this is an adult decision. I have to, I have to
choose me right now.
I didn't want to break up, but you're giving me no choice.
Like, I have to break up with you now,
and I'm going to be fine.
Like, all of the things that we said earlier
was that situation.
I was able to apply to that.
But that book was based on me falling in love.
And then it became, oh, why don't you write a book
about breaking up?
And I was like, I don't really want to write a book about breaking up.
And then as time went on, I was like, that's a part of my story, but that's not the story.
That relationship was going to be its own book.
That relationship turns out to be just a chapter.
And by the way, I feel like you handled that so tastefully.
You were like, I'm not going to go into everything. Here's what you, the reader, need to know
and like get out of my business.
Yeah, so that was new too.
Yes, boundaries is very important, right?
Yeah, I mean, so for this book, the reasoning,
there was all that kind of context to go along with it.
And then I think I feel sort of responsible
to women and want to give them like, you know, some hope and like some an injection of, you know,
positivity and like, get after it, don't lose hope and like, be good to yourself, you know,
let's all become the women that we wanna be.
I should know this,
but have you given a commencement address yet at a college?
No, I haven't.
Oh, yes.
Well, something like that, I think.
Something like that, yes.
I feel like that is in your future.
I'm just predicting that right now.
Oh, I love that.
That'll be my next phase.
That'll be your next phase.
I love it.
Do you feel pressure to be funny all the time?
What if you don't feel funny?
Do you feel like you need to perform for people?
Can you just be whatever?
No, I don't anymore.
I used to, I think, but I don't anymore.
I don't perform.
No.
I have a good time and I'm much quieter than I used to be in the sense of like, you know, partying and
being out with friends and stuff.
Like that was a loud, the louder lifestyle than what I'm up to these days.
But yeah, I mean, I think it's just that you're, you just become more of who you are, right?
Like, well, they are leaning into who you are and you're not, you're not apologizing
for any of it and That's kind of how I feel and how I felt for quite some time without
Understanding like the heft behind it
Got it
Amazing. So aside from being a commencement speaker, what else do you think is gonna be in your future after this book?
Do you have other plans other exciting ventures coming?
Yeah, I have some plans but I can't really announce anything at all
I can announce is that I have another Netflix special coming out a new Netflix special that comes out on March 25th
So that will be one month after my book comes out and yes, I have a lot of stuff in the works
But nothing that I can I'm gonna do some different stuff this year
I'm doing a European tour, which I haven't done in many years, which I'm excited about, but that's just like four weeks going all through Western Europe.
And then I am going to go, I have my Vegas residency.
I do Vegas once a month, so I have that.
But other than that, I'm going to do stuff that I've never done before.
So I'm excited to share that, but I can't right now.
Okay.
Well, that's okay.
We got like a little teaser and that's exciting.
My coughing. No, no, that's okay. We got like a little teaser and that's exciting. I'm coughing.
Woo.
I know.
Sorry about it.
Do you find when you're just hanging out with friends, are you often giving advice or is
it just at certain points?
Because I feel like you have a lot of advice to give and a lot of insights to share.
Is it that kind of dynamic with your friends?
Yes, a lot of them it is.
But a lot of them it's just stupid, funny, and silly.
We're not really talking about anything serious.
But I'm definitely somebody who gives their opinion on things.
And yes, I think most people just need a little boost.
My podcast that I do is callers calling in for advice.
So that's my commencement speech right there.
That's true.
Yeah, you could just excerpt from that.
Yeah. I'll just take your transcripts and I'll just send one over. Yeah, you could just excerpt from that. Yeah.
I'll just take your transcripts and I'll just send one over.
You know, you could put it in chat, GPT or something and have it all ready.
Yeah.
I mean, it's quite accurate.
What's something that is a misconception about you that's really irritating?
I really wouldn't know.
Okay.
And what about advice for aspiring authors?
Oh, just to, first of all, anyone can write a book. We've shown that that's been demonstrated
time and time again. So you can definitely do it. It's a matter of actually sitting down
and doing it. And you have to write to write. That's it. You have to sit down and write,
and then you're going to write more and then you're going to write more. And then you're
going to have something. And it's going to take a long time and it's going to be like,
but you're creating something
and that's what creating something is.
It's like two steps forward, three steps back,
and then success.
You also made that sound very easy, which is great.
Everything, it's like in the palm of my hand after this.
I love it.
And just quickly, like what books are you loving
or favorite books of all time or books that make you laugh or
any books to recommend? Is it Circe or Cirque? I think Circe, right? Is that the great
by Madeline Miller? Is it Circe? Circe, yeah. The House of Mirth is one of my favorite books ever.
I love that book. Oh my God. It's so timeless. I read that book by Kristin Hannah a few years
ago, The Great Alone. I gave that to someone. Have you read that? I have, yes.
Yeah, that's like a subject matter I have absolutely zero interest in on multiple levels,
but I was turning every single page like, oh my God, what is going to happen next?
I don't know, The Great Alone.
That seems like it could be a subtitle for some of the chapters of your book.
Well, yeah, exactly.
That would be a good title.
And what else have I read that has blown me away?
I was pretty impressed with Matthew McConaughey's book, Green Lights.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, wow, this guy's pretty deep.
So I remember reading that a couple of years ago.
I was having him on my podcast, so I read it in 24 hours.
And that was great.
Yeah, but right now, I'm reading something called The Other Einstein,
which is about Einstein's wife, but it's a fiction. So who knows?
Very cool. Yeah, I had Matthew McConaughey on the podcast and I spent like a couple
weeks in summer listening to the audiobook anytime I drove my kids to camp and I was like,
well, this makes this really pleasant. Yeah.
Having the voice. Anyway. Okay. Well, Chelsea, thank makes this really pleasant. Yeah. Having the voice.
Anyway.
Okay.
Well, Chelsea, thank you so much for coming on and all of your advice and the way you're
advocating for other women is really, really amazing and much needed.
So thank you for that.
And you know, the advice to be yourself, it's pretty awesome.
Oh, awesome.
Thank you so much.
It was so nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you too.
Okay. Take care. Bye-bye.
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