Dear Chelsea - Two Women and a Pig with Hannah Gadsby

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

Hannah Gadsby joins Chelsea to chat about the dubious nature of cruises, why their new special features a sock puppet, and how Tasmania is not in Africa.  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's Canada. And September, I will be in Santa Barbara, San Diego, New York City, Philly, and New Haven, Connecticut. October is Atlanta, Baltimore, Saginaw, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boise, Idaho, and Spokam. And then in November, I'll be in San Francisco. I'm coming to Salt Lake City, Austin, Houston, Dallas, babies, I'll be there. And then in December, I am closing out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So get your tickets at Chelseahandler.com for the high and mighty tour. Hi, Catherine.

Hi, Chelsea. Are you on a boat? Where am I? I'm on the Amalfi Coast. Oh, how lovely. Yes, I am offshore on the Amalfi. I've decided to work in oil. Where you are?

I'm on an oiler. You're an oil rigger. Yes, I'm an oil rigger. I felt like I had to get down to my roots, and that is oil rigging. You know how popular that's been. Down to your roots and down into the sea. Yes, I just am happy that I'm not in America right now, and I'm enjoying my free time while I have it. I have the month of July off before I get back on tour, everybody.

I'll be back in August, and in the meantime, I am drinking and swimming and acting. like the way God intended me to behave. And meanwhile, like the powers that be over here are dropping like flies. I know. I can't believe though. When are they going to admit that Mitch McConnell is dead? I mean, this is absolutely ridiculous. I know.

That photo that they posted is like clearly AI because the newspaper he was holding, like the picture is wrong. I saw a thing about it online. Yeah, but if the Democrats can't get it together to get them to prove that Mitch McConnell is dead before that special election kicks in, then they deserve that. You know what I mean? Like, get it together. And you cannot, this is weekend at Bernice.

I mean, I honestly was laughing when I heard this. I'm like, this is seriously happening in our country. And you heard the thing about his assistant called to cancel his like country club reservation. And they're like, why do you need to cancel? And she's like, my boss is dead. And that was like two weeks ago. Oh, oh, no, I didn't hear that. That's even better.

I mean, this is good. They're going to make movies about this. It's so stupid. I mean, they're going to make movies about a lot of this. It's fully wagging. the dog. Totally. Yeah, that was a good movie. It's Wag the Dog beats weekend at Burnies, but Wag the Dog is good for anyone. If you're listening and you haven't seen that movie, it's worth seeing that movie. Absolutely. Oh, and also we should mention, since we recorded this

episode, poor Bonnie Tyler has passed away, which is a subject to conversation. Oh, yes. Bonnie Tyler died. Yes, this comes up in this conversation. They were going to go on a cruise with Bonnie Tyler. Well, you'll hear it. Listen to the episode. Yes. Yes. We had a really good good time talking to them. You know our guests from their blockbuster comedy specials, Nanette, Douglas, and then something special. And their new special, Woof, is on YouTube now. So please welcome Hannah Gatsby. Hi, Hannah Gadsby. Hi. Welcome to America. Oh, thank you so much for having me. Oh, my God. I love you. I love you. I think you, yeah, I do. I think you're such a breath of fresh air. more time with me.

I know. It's easy to love from afar. Yeah. I like to keep a distance. Well, you are keeping the distance because you live in fucking Tasmania, which... Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, you're from Tasmania. You're from Tasmania.

I mean, Tasmania is still Australia. But I'm on the mainland these days. How did you get over to the mainland? Oh, ships a hoy. We've got a ferry. I've been to Tasmania. Now, tell me about that. I was doing, you know, some dates in Australia.

So I thought, my cousin and I thought, oh, we should go somewhere we've never been. And somebody said you should go to Tasmania. We've said that to you. An Australian. This guy, Johnny. His name is Johnny Cox. Classic Johnny. Yeah, exactly.

I'd like to shout him out. And he said, but before you go, you have to read Robert Hughes's book, The Fatal Shore. That's intense homework. This is a book that is about. 800 pages. Have you read it, Hannah? Yes, I did. Yeah, when I was studying art history. I didn't read it all. Flick through the writing. Well, I did. I read all of it. And it came, thank you, thank you. I love books. I love books. I read your book. I loved your book. I loved your book. I read that book, and I was in Tasmania, and it was such a disturbing book because it talks about the colonization,

which started in Tasmania for all of Australia and all the people that they would... I'm going to pull you up. Uh-oh, maybe I didn't retain that much. Let's have a chat about this. Okay, so Tasmania was the second penal colony. It's a great word. After Sydney, because they landed in Sydney,

set up the jail situation. They thought, it's quite nice here. This is hardly punishment. And then like, let's find somewhere terrible. And that's when they settled Tasmania. Like, is it... So it was the second one. And then what were you going to say about Tasmania?

I take a while to warm up. It's okay. No problem. I'll fill in. Tasmania was the more severe penal quality where they took the really bad guys and where they had. And funnily enough, when you go to Sydney, like, if you go on a boat ride in Sydney and you're coming back in, you're like, can you imagine bringing a bunch of prisoners and criminals here? Like, and then what? You're like, this is paradise.

Like, why would you be against that? So, but obviously it wasn't paradise because the book, the brutality of a fatal shore is that book gave me diarrhea for four days in a row in Tasmania reading about the whipping and the lashing and they would hang these guys by the post. And then the guys were eating people. They were trying to escape and they were in the risk.

Oh, that's Alexander Pierce, you're talking about that. So when they've gone, oh, Tasmania's terrible. And then they're like, well, it's coming together. find another island, so they found another island on the east coast, the furthest away you can get from Hobart, which is the only town in town. And Alexander Pierce, and a bunch of his buddies on this island, broke out. And then, like, we've got to make our way to Hobart. And it is, and it is still really dense wilderness. Like, there are parts of the eastern coast of Tasmania that no one's been, no, west coast, that's where I'm from, that no one's really been through,

you know. So it's dense and ancient forest. right and they made their way to Hobart eventually but only Alexander Pierce arrived because he had it he just ate his other escapees on the way like one by one and and then they said well you should go back to this island and then he escaped again and some people went with him and at that time he just got to the beach of the mainland of Tasmania and he just ate them there he's like I don't need to walk this far I just like eating people now no yeah Yeah, that's what happens. My mom told we were related. Whenever we're getting in trouble, you're a director, Senator Pierce. That's a good recall for his name. Well, another thing,

though, is in Sydney and in Tasmania, all the streets, or lots of the streets, are named after these prison wardens. So when you're walking down the street, all of the names from the book, I'm like, why does this sound familiar? And then I'm like, oh, this was named after one of the prison wardens. Did you ever notice that? Of course, of course. We're very proud of our terrible history. I'm a direct descendant of a lady off the first fleet. Well, it wasn't quite the first fleet. It was the second fleet. I think they talked about it in that.

It's called the floating brothel because they realized everyone was dying. And then they thought, you know, we should just send a lot of women down there. And so it was just a ship full of women. And my descendants stole a Bible, classic. And that was the only ship that arrived. with more people on it than left because they just had babies on the way. They had a birthing tent on the deck because usually when you'd stop in all the ports on the way, if there were women on the ship, they'd be rowed to other ships to have a bit of a plow.

And this one, there was a... Not funny at all. No, no. Just want to put that out there, but kind of funny in the distance. It's just the language. Sorry. And then so, but there's a lady on board. who took all these young women under her wing

and established the floating brothel. And it was just like, no, these guys can come here and I'll protect all these women. And then they had a birthing tent on board. I think they had three or four births because it took take so long to get there. My descendant, they landed in Sydney, and everyone's like, women.

And then they're like, so they sent her off to Norfolk Island, which is just way off the east coast of Australia. and that they colonized that because they thought Norfolk pines are great for building boats and they're not so then they're just stuck there on this wild island there they lived in threes polygamy was established there and every household got two women and a pig and so it was pretty wild and then she went to Tasmania I don't come from good stock wow two women and a pig yeah she eventually got um you know after she served her sentence. She got a huge plot of land outside in Sandy Bay in Hobart, which is the posh suburb, like, you know, but she sold it for a barrel of rum. Obviously. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, so that's, yeah, the fatal shore is, yeah, I quite like that. It's an uplifting book for me. It's full of hope. Well, I'm just thinking, like, two women and a pig is better than being on your own with the pig and the guy. You know what I mean? Two women and a pig sounds great if a man is not there. But even if a man is there, I would want another woman. Absolutely.

You know what I mean? Better than to be alone with the pig and the man. Yeah, not many of those marriages lasted. Congratulations on your marriage. How long have you been married now? Thank you. How long? Five years?

Five years. Oh. What do you? Five years. What words of wisdom? What kernels of wisdom have you picked up from being married for five years? Look, I think five years is not long enough to just like, let me tell. Do you know, like, that's, I haven't even got to the seven-year itch. Let me rephrase it then. Let me rephrase it. How has marriage impacted the way that you see yourself as an individual on this earth?

Oh, well, cohabitating with someone has made me understand just how badly I operate through life. So it's having a constant witness. that's both alarming and comforting. You know, just being seen by someone all the time. I quite enjoy it because I have the capacity to disappear. Yeah, I've really enjoyed it. That's nice. And that's not very funny. No, and you don't have to be funny.

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We're probably of the same age. I have a history of cabbage patch children in my life. And as soon as you started talking about that, it brought me back to the time where parents were going to Toys R Us at 6 o'clock in the morning, standing in line for Toys R Us to open to get the right cabbage patch kid for their daughter, which was me. It was chaotic. And they never got the right one. I got two preemies before I got a real one. And one of them had a... Did you say premies?

Yeah. They got me like the ruttors, the runtz of the runtes. of the litter, the rudders. Oh, two soons. Too soon. That's right. Too soon. Exactly. So I got two of them. Then I got a fake cabbage patch cake because my dad was like, fuck this shit. I'm not standing in line at Toys or Us at 6 o'clock in the morning. And I was like, why not? I'm like, everyone, I need to bring a cabbage patch to school to be legitimate. Like, I have to legitimize myself. Did you have a cabbage patch? There was nothing a cabbage patch doll could do to legitimize me. Like, Like I think you have to be edging toward legitimacy.

But no, I got a thing called an ice cream doll. Like it was a fake one. You know, when cabbage patch dolls took off, other people were like, well, let's, people prefer ice cream. You'd think the ice cream doll would have taken off before a cabbage patch doll, you know? Like cabbage. Right. Ice cream, correct. I didn't like dolls, so I wasn't.

and they were ugly. They were objectively ugly, and they always used to confuse me why everyone was excited about them. But you trace it keeps happening, like libuboos and, you know, the beanie babies. Every generation has this. And like I think the trick is,

dolls are frightening. But there is actually an answer to your question because you talk in the special about like, where did all the cabbableness? patch dolls go. And there was, I think it was a my strange addiction that they covered this on. But there is this couple in like Ohio and they have like 15,000 cabbage patch dolls and they have names for all of them and they have parties with their friends and they have like a special building that's,

you know, heat temperature regulated. It's very weird. It's hard to imagine they have friends. I think there's a lid. That's a kind of obsession that like preclude a lot. What did you play with when you were growing up? If you didn't like cabbage badge kids. No. I liked to play with my animals. I had a dog. I just mucked about, really.

We lived, we were sort of quite feral as a lot of swimming. I played golf. Do you still play golf? I picked it up again. I used to play. I was a state champion. The state was Tasmania, so we can just back off the impressiveness there. Excuse you.

And so that was what I did on weekends. It was a little country golf club, so basically I was just hanging out with the elderly. Yeah. Well, I mean, I know you suffer from social anxiety and that you've talked about panic attacks and such. Was that happening when you were a kid too? No, because I was just hanging out with old people. They take the stress right off. It is fucking true.

Just tea and biscuits. It is easy to hang out with old people. They don't care. They're just happy someone's talking to them. I just walked the straight on you who had bad mobility in biscuits. They couldn't get away from me. So tell us, when did that stuff, like when did you start identifying that something or that you felt some way about your like disposition or that you had panic attacks or that

you had anxiety? Like at what age did that become relevant to you or that you had a name for it? Yeah, not well. was a child. You didn't have a name for it. I just got tired. I'm sort of a voidant and I get burnt out and tired so I just become a potato as opposed to a jittery bug. But as I've gotten older and I just can't impress upon people enough just how isolated my childhood was. Like it's, Tasmania, as you know, Chelsea is very isolated. Like it's a hop, skip and a jump to get there and it is. But in the 80s, it was even more isolated.

you know there just wasn't we had two or three channels on television leaving the state was prohibitively expensive you know and it's incredibly inbred it's like it's a bit like Iceland actually is it you know yeah Iceland and Tasmania get studied a lot because of the purity of our genetic pool wow they say purity but I say it's a you know you don't meet a lot of Icelandic people that have left Iceland you know what I mean they're not about in the world like you don't run into people from Iceland. And you're the first person I've met, well, the first person that I know of that's from Tasmania. There's a couple of people, like, I can't remember who they are, so we probably shouldn't talk about it. You also can't have that kind of competition. No, although I'm not a very

competitive person. Really? I'd rather not. A very big part of being Australian is understanding the power of being second best. Well, right now, right now, you're doing a lot better than we are. So I wouldn't. I know, but I think that's a lot to do with our attitude, because you guys are so hopeful. You're always striving and sometimes being still is better. I think it's really interesting, I think. We're an interesting experiment because of, you know, we're both settled. We're both, American Australia both exist because Britain couldn't get their shit together. And they still can't get their shit together, but they don't think about that.

Britain should never be responsible for drawing maps. Yeah, you know what? You raise a very good point. Like they've just shown time and time again that every time they draw up a new border, bad stuff happens for centuries. But also, but you guys were settled because you're like, you know, hopeful and thought that Britain wasn't pure enough. And we were settled because, you know, they needed somewhere to send the dregs.

So we understood who we are from the beginning. Your country is built on this, like we're better than that, and we're just like, we're not even good enough for that dirty island. That dirty island. Do you know when I went to Tasmania for that first, like, three months before the trip, once we booked to the trip, I was convinced I was going to Africa because of Tanzania. Oh, man. The amount of times people think I'm from Africa. Well, if the shoe fits. It doesn't.

I was doing it. I had one of those lovely general meetings back in the day. This was when I was too naive to have meetings in Hollywood. My success is really funny because it was just, I just got launched into a place that really only very ambitious people belong. and it was so you know I'd given up I was too old not too old but like I was I was 40 and you just get enough information to go well I'm never going to be a superstar

I'll just hang out here and do my thing and then all of a sudden I was in a place where I really needed to have different muscles anyway so I was taking these meetings and not making the most of them but that is funny ultimately and I think it was Warner Brothers and they were all, you know, you know when there's a feeding frenzy on, you know, and they're all very excited. This is passed. And they made me a cup of tea.

They were very keen to make me tea or they asked me if I wanted tea. And so I said yes, because it's tea. And forgetting I was in America, no offense. And they're like, oh no. Like they offered me tea, didn't know how to make it. And they're making me like the hottest water. in a paper cup and I couldn't hold it. And it's like, thank you for the tea. And I'm like, I'm going to have to drink this because they're like, is it good? I'm like, it's too hot.

And then they went around the table telling us each who they were and why I should be interested. And of course, they bought in the whole Department of Reality Television. And, you know, who's the guy with a cowboy hat? He was there. The one who's ruined the world. Oh, oh, the guy that did The Apprentice? Yeah. Oh, fuck. I don't know his name, but I know who you're talking about. Yeah, giddy up. He was there. And someone else in his team was talking and they're like, oh, we've done the Bachelor,

the Bachelor. You've seen The Bachelor. The Bachelor's amazing. It's very big in Australia. I'm not sure about Tanzania. And I'm like, you know, I'm like, I was like, I think you mean Tasmania, but then the tea burst through the back. And then there was no more, there's no more meeting. So I really nailed that one. When was the last time you were here? probably when I saw you. Yeah, when you saw me. Yeah.

That was a hell of a party, wasn't I? It was. It was. That's a good party, actually. Really? I mean, I had a good time. It feels like any party with comedians is like a wedding with only brides. I like a daytime event.

I like a daytime party and I like to get that fucking shit over with. So for that, I like it. And I like when all the comedians, because the truth of the matter is you don't get to see a lot of comedians in real life. Unless you're working out at comedy clubs. You know, when you're touring and stuff, you see your people and you don't really get to mingle with them. So I do like that aspect of that party. And I love that it's in the daytime. And I love that, yes, I like that party.

That's a party that I will go to. You obviously feel what differently? I just don't like parties. Yeah, right. And then what concern made. about that party was the moment when speeches started happening. But no one knew where the speeches were. And so you just hear this voice cast over the garden going,

excuse me, hello. And everyone's just sort of looking around. I'm like, you're trying to run a live comedy festival. You need to know where to put a stage and have our people understand where to look when you're talking. So I was worried about the logistics. So I heard what you said earlier about America, and I like what you say. I think I agree with you. We think we're better than everybody. What are your other impressions of America, like your first impressions when you came over here for the first time? I mean, Americans are very friendly, and I enjoy that. Sometimes your voices can pitch a bit loud. But that's the accent. The way that you speak, your tongue gets out of the way and there's a lot of noise comes out.

I've learned the American accent, but I will not speak because it is too loud coming from within. I startle easily. So the only way I can speak American is if I do like a Batman, I can speak American, but I won't go louder than that. I like Americans. I married one. Yeah. I think it's always an interesting thing when you have an idea of a culture,

and then when you have to mingle, it breaks apart. Like the idea of a national identity always breaks apart because individuals ruin everything. This is true. This is true. How did you and your wife meet? Jenny was my producer of Nanette when I took it to New York. So she was looking after me.

This was before it went on to Netflix. And she was so good at her job. Like she knew what I wanted before I wanted it. She's like, oh, do you want a cup of tea? And I'm like, no. Oh, actually I think I do. You know, that kept happening. So when I was gearing up to do my first world tour,

and we were spoken, she was at a loose end, and I brought her on to sort of help me tour. We had a strong working relationship before I wore her down. And how did you make your move? I didn't. Apparently, we looked back on it, and apparently, you know, we were dating for a year before we understood that we were dating.

We just did everything. That was romantic. Didn't clock that. And Jenny was being very professional. She's very professional, very good a job. And I was just hyper aware of the, you know, Weinstein factor. She was my employee. So, you know, we, we, how long was it, Jenny?

Nine months. We're nine months. You were working together for nine months. working together for nine months before you became a couple? Yeah. And we know you're not good at a party. We know you don't like parties. We know you don't want to do.

Oh, Chelsea, I have to tell you something. I'm doing a gay cruise in August. Oh. Through the Mediterranean. 3,000 people. I accept it because it's through the Mediterranean and sailing through the path of totality for the total eclipse. and the headline act was going to be Bonnie Tyler.

But she's now in an induced coma and not going. So now I'm just on a boat. And I thought, you know who might know how to handle that? It's Chelsea Handler. Have you done a cruise? You know what? Hannah, even I know not to do a fucking cruise. Fucking hell, what have I done?

I mean, I really think you should get out of that. Really? But this is something I do a lot. I'm like, I don't like these things. I don't like these things. And then for some reason, sometimes I just inexplicably move toward a thing. I do that. I should.

I do that too. So, yeah, so that's what this is. So I guess I'm, anyway. So you've not done a cruise? I haven't. I have an aversion to cruises. And that. What's your aversion?

It's probably the same as mine. The people. The amount of people stuck on a one pile of essential, basically garbage because that's what you're doing. You're floating on garbage. And it's too many people and it's you run, I don't want, I don't want to be trapped. It's everything that you already think is what I'm saying out loud. What have I done? How long is it? How long is the cruise? I did it for bonding. Nine, nine nights. Nine, oh, okay. I think we're going to say nine months. I'm like, what? Yes, I'm doing a reverse convict.

I was like, how long is the sun totality? I thought that was like a night. Okay, so nine days in the Mediterranean. I mean, you should just bring your journal and keep track of everything. I'm assuming Jenny's going with you. Yes. Jenny, I think, will have a lot of fun. Is there going to be gambling on the cruise? Yes. They all have a casino, I think, right? It's a gamble to go on if I'm not. That is funny. That is funny that you signed up for Bonnie Tyler and now she's in a coma.

I mean, how glorious would that be? Little Bonnie Tyler, little Welsh witch just belting out total eclipse of the heart during an eclipse on a boat. Well, maybe she'll come too in the time. She's not coming. When do you set sail? In August, it's done. I'm stuck on a boat without that. They're going to have to get some musical act.

And everyone's going to be so excited and I can't rain on their parade. They've saved up for it. This is their dream. Yeah, right. As much as it's my nightmare. And then I have to do two hours of comedy during the Moroccan themed night party. And but back to back. And I'm just like, oh, yeah.

I'm sure I'll be funny. Like an early show and a late show? Yeah. Oh. I mean, take pictures is all I have to say. and take some videos as well. Okay. What I might do, and this is what I tend to do,

because I don't live on the surface of reality. I like to, you know, the constant posting of what you're doing now is not anything I've ever been able to. It seems to be too soon. Right. So I'll keep a daily diary and then post it later. Yeah, that's fine.

That's better. It's better that way anyway. I like when I see people post about their trips after they've had some thought put into it rather than immediate. I agree with it. with that. So you're way ahead of the game in that department. And only that department. They're just like, so they're sending all the things and they're just like, as long as you

cover up your balls, your penis and your vagina at breakfast, anything goes. I'm like, oh. Did that? Was that in writing? It was in writing. Wow. I would use that as a, that would be a big red flag. Well, they send it after you sign the contract. Right. It's like a nine day party, which is going to be a nine day party. But do you drink or do you drink? I probably will. Yeah, yeah. You don't strike me as someone who drinks or does drugs. Oh, come on.

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When your special in the Nat came out, it was humongous. and had a huge cultural impact and huge reaction from people. I want to know how that impacted you and what you thought about that. It was massive. I don't think I kind of appreciate it because you're in the middle of it and it's quite intense. And it was just such a, I think what I struggled the most with as it's, you know, I've moved away from it is that it was such a personal show. And up until the moment it went on Netflix, it was mine. and, you know, the story was who I was telling in the room, and I'm a live performer.

I've not done much screen. I've done a little bit, but not with my work, you know. So my audience was built on people I'd spoken to who was sharing the same room as me, and this was my first adventure into not that. You know, so by understanding of who my audience really disintegrated, and then when you start to write new shows and stuff, you're like, who are you talking to anymore? And I've always struggled with that.

Like, do you know who your audience is, Chelsea? And does that, like, do you sometimes go, well, I'm changing a little bit as a human, how do you bring your audience along with that without sort of alienating them? Because people really do like your old stuff better than your new stuff. And, like, it's always this constant conversation. And because I don't, you know, I'm at a loss. Like, I feel at sea. I think the biggest feeling for me at the moment is I are quite afraid,

because I'm not a benign figure now. So any time I speak up about something, it can be a problem. I'm a lightning rod, like it or not. And, you know, it's not like Me Too worked. You know, who would have thought a hashtag was not actually equal to actual structures of power? And so we're in the middle of this disastrous and angry backlash. And I, you know, as soon as I poke my head up, I'm a target. And so that, that feels quite frightening.

So on the one hand, I've trauma bonded on a grand scale. So I could start a cult. But on the other hand, it's like, you know, there are angry people at people are angry at me still. Yeah. Well, first of all, if you're going to start a cult, you're going to have to go back to Tasmania to do it because that's the proper place for that, the proper backdrop. But what about the opposite part of that? All the love and adulation you got.

Didn't you notice that as well? I totally hear what you're saying. And I think people are really hateful and bigoted and everything, yeah, everything we're experiencing in the United States specifically and on a global level. But specific to me, because that's my experience, our experience is everything feels like like the overturning of Roe v. Wade feels like a repercussion of Me Too and feels like a repercussion of times up like men are like oh you think you're going to tell on us and then no you're not what we're discovering is there's a reactivity where culture is saying we would rather not feel bad

and we would rather not feel bad about this and continue to do this like it's just like oh we've just discovered they have no shame and that's you know that's what you have to do the other side of it You know, I mean, when you've got sort of complex trauma going on, hearing positive affectation is incredibly difficult. My team, drip feeds me praise. You know, we've got a nice message from a fan, you know, because sometimes I can't take it on and then I resent the fan for writing. I'm like, why are you talking to me?

But over time, I've, and because the heat's disappeared a little bit, you know, and I'm left with my fans. and I have a really lovely fan base. So I'm learning how to exist in that. It's nice, you know, and I do like my fans. That's where our work is now. You know, I sort of hit that crossroad where it's just like you need to have wide public, you know,

I guess success, and then you can have a career. Whereas now, if you can find your audience, you can have a career. And so I have an audience. And that feels really privileged. You know, I feel like younger comics are really struggling to find, you know, because the industry is in such flux. The world we know has changed. So it's not like we can give actual advice to new comics because the landscape is so different.

Yeah, that's so true. And the way they're finding their audience is so different. So it just feels like a really unstable landscape, but I feel very grateful for my fans. And you won awards. I mean, you won a Peabody Award. You won the Emmy, didn't you for your special? Yeah. I won the Emmy. So you must have, that must have felt good. Yeah, I felt frightened about the Emmy because I did beat out Beyonce and speaking of dedicated fan bases. So my first words were sorry. But that's probably the Australian part of me. It was so big for me. Like, what other people are. understood it to be and what I understood it to be is taken a long time to sort of synthesize. But I feel like I'm there now, but it's over. Is that one of the reasons what you're describing why you didn't want to film this stand-up

special in a more in the traditional way? Well, when I was, I mean, as soon as I started doing that tour, it was clear I was in a bad way. Like I was in a very bad mental health situation. you know, you can just see other people who, you know, in a middle of a working phase and under stress and not in good mental health, they say and do things that are very destructive. Not necessarily, and I'm like, you know, because you can't, when you're out, you know, sitting on an anxiety that a tour means you can't tamp that down.

You're like, right, I'm on tour now, I'm constantly traveling, I'm putting out work, I'm self-promoting, I'm in the public eye, you don't get to tamp that down. So if you're starting up here, I'm like, this is a dangerous space to be in, in a volatile time. You know, like it's things were really heating up, particularly for my people. Because, you know, that was the time when, you know, the scapegoating of trans and queer people really, you know, started to drop. And, you know, because people forget because the internet makes it feel like we have a voice, but we don't actually have protections. But the voice bit upset people. So we became the scapegoat.

So, you know, it's fear I was the friend. And also, you know, it's a physiological thing for me. I don't like change and tour is nothing but change. So I understood that and I'm like, I don't want, because I do overthink it a bit because of the nature of the net. I understand that my fan base hang on to my work because, like I said, I've trauma bonded. Like it means stuff to people that it has nothing to do with me, but I am the figure ahead of that and I take that really seriously. Like I don't want to abuse that, you know, because, you know,

when I did, Nanette, it was like I didn't, I didn't give a trigger warning, you know, like it was the angriest people, of course, were men and particularly male comedians. And, and then it fills us down from there. But there was also, I knew that risk, and I was happy to take that. But the other risk, which was always an unknown for me. It was like, it's people have experienced similar trauma. This could either be cathartic or really damaging. Like I took a lot of care in the show, writing a show, that it was something that could hold as a piece of work.

Like I wasn't, you know, this wasn't, you know, me sort of trauma bombing. Like, I'd worked this out. Like, I thought about this. This was, you know, you know, I channeled, a funneled a rage instead of just sprayed a rage. Yes, well said. That's exactly right. But having said that, it's like all my decisions, I'm like, I feel a duty of care to that audience not to muck about.

And I was up here with this anxiety. And, you know, I look back on this decision, I'm going, that's a decision only an anxious mind would make. But I really, and I think it worked out in a way. I'm just like, well, how about I channel this instability and direct that to Netflix in my career? It's a victimless crime, you know? Like, if I make these odd decisions and, like, you know, everyone, at this stage, Netflix is like, everything's funny. And so I ran an experiment, like, are you funny, though?

Like, can you be the joke? And I think I've told too many hostile jokes about Netflix to really truly be welcome on the platform. But it's a two-way street. Like, I don't, Netflix fucking sucks. Like, they make. made transphobia profitable. And they formed very deliberately a feeding frenzy on a tiny, tiny minority.

And we have no recourse. And I remember at this party that we went to in Netflix and Ted stood up once everyone worked out where to look. And he's like, we have made the world less divisive because we've opened up free speech. And I'm like, speech just needs to be free because it's important. and it's powerful and it can, you know, make people feel things. And, you know, when you agitate people, then you can manoeuvre people. You know, it's flooding the zone.

And they paid no care, absolutely no care. And because I'm that person, you know, whenever it was like, if you can't say, you know, the transphobic debate within comedy, I was the figurehead. And they pulled me into that, you know. Ted put me up as that. Like, we have Dave Chappelle and we have Hannah Gatsby, but I don't get paid nearly enough for that, right? You know, like, I don't have those protections.

I don't, you know, like, and it was just a very vile time. So I channeled that. And I only went to the Netflix as a joke thing, so that, you know, I used it as a, they paid for my airline tickets and my top surgery. And I haven't spoken about it. my top surgery publicly but it's just like you know what that's a good use of their money and it just you know it feels so hostile because for a lot of those guys it's just sport

they're just like how what can i say who can i upset how close to the edge can i skate i'm like good on you but there are people who are trying to live there and are actually you know we're losing our rights You know, and it's people are hostile. And I think Netflix was really cavalier with that. And it's not like I expect anything to change. People hate us now. It's been established. Like people are sick of us talking.

And the tide is too angry and activated about, you know, everything else. There's no point trying to change that now. Like it's too big and too angry. And we are a scapegoat. and people are distressed and it's a moment in history where people are scared of losing a quality of life that they currently exist in

and that's across the whole spectrum from billionaires to people living in abject poverty but it's not the responsibility of people who are on the struggle bus to sort of reign in their terror it's the people who are genuine privilege that have a responsibility and they're not taking it.

So did you decide not to go back to Netflix for this? Is that, it was that a... I don't think we're speaking. Oh. I think, I don't think I'm on their radar anymore. Well, you were at the party. I mean, so you're on the radar for sure because you were at the party. I mean, no, I don't think I'm on, like, I'm sure I'm on the radar, but I'm not, like, I don't think they're like, did you go to them and try to sell them a special, this special?

No, that's what this point, the point of it was, like, is like, I deliberately made something they, because they had the, because they had the, first write of refusal and so I made something. I see. Yeah, it doesn't exist. It's just an animation and an audio only. And I knew, like, I wasn't like, I'm going to stick it to them. Like, I know it's a losing battle, but when you, like, I was in distress. So I thought, this is, these are victimless crimes. Like, it doesn't matter. I can't do anything to Netflix. They're too big. It's over. It's done. Whatever. But a little fight felt good in that sort of distress I was feeling. Yeah, you must feel a big.

I mean, the way you're talking about it makes me really kind of understand, have a better understanding of the responsibility that you must feel and or the onus that you must feel for like being a figurehead and what that means to people. Because I hear what you're saying. And yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty hard to watch men get away with such bad comedy. And picking on the people that need the allies the most. Like picking on that, it's like if you're such a good comedian, why aren't you going over there and thinking of something more clever and picking on the higher levels of like fruit that aren't so easy to grab? Well, it doesn't do good for your career. Like that's what I did. I went for the high fruit.

And, you know, they don't love it. You know, it's a complex time to be alive, though. This isn't personal. It's everybody is distressed. Yeah. How do you handle your stress now? What do you do? I've clocked off.

I don't listen to the news. I don't, I'm not on social media. I'm early onset quaint. I'm going on a cruise, but I don't think that'll help me connect. No, that cruise is going to set you back. I think I'm running an experiment of like what is it like to be a human not involved in social media. I'm sure it's fruitful. It's much more fruitful than being involved.

Yeah, but it's also interesting because you're losing touch. So as a comedian, it's like, you know, what do you talk about then? How do you connect to people? But it is very calm. I highly recommend it. How long have you been off social media? Yeah, about four years, four or five years. Wow.

Yeah, it was too dangerous for me. Yeah, I know, I hear you. I hear you. I think it's probably dangerous for most people, but people are so addicted that they can't see. It's really, this is, you know, I'm not an economist and I don't understand, you know, broad economic principles. But it's a logical extension of capitalism, isn't it? You know, it's like making money now is culture. So, you know, for a long time, it's culture happened elsewhere, but now making money is our culture.

It's not cultural capital. It's just capital capital. And that's what social media is. It's turning art into data points. And now everyone's trying to create all the time, all the time. If you don't say something, you don't exist. If you don't put yourself on the screen, you don't exist. And, you know, people are talking about it over here, and then it's constantly moving.

And I, as an organism, cannot cope, you know. But I grew up in such isolation. And I see people my age losing their minds because they're on social media too much. Like, melted. My sisters and I were on a girls weekend. We went to Sedona, Arizona. And my sister, Simone, was saying, we were talking about the state of affairs in our country. and she was like, we have no culture left. America has no culture.

Capital capital. Yeah, yeah. And it's like the price you pay for capitalism, which sounds in theory like a great idea, but put to practice ends up being something completely opposite of what the intention is. And then the avarice that comes with the capitalism. And then this whole experience with technology and what's happened, it's like there's no soul, like the soul of the soul of the capitalism. and then this whole experience with technology and what's happened, it's like there's no soul, like the soul of our country is gone and has diminished so greatly that I don't know. Like, do you feel like the soul is gone in Australia? Do you feel the same way? It's going to happen. You know, there's a slide beginning, but we're a bit delayed.

It's not as bad here, but it's just there's no escaping it, I don't think. You know, because we're going to continue having more and more natural disasters and no infrastructure to help people, you know, recover from these things. You know, natural to the existence of being human is ebb and flow. And the way we've built things is like we're always striving, building, building. And we're just created a pile of fucking jenga and we're just got to watch it, you know. Were you, but you, I mean, at least your country was smart. enough to prohibit social media for 16-year-olds and under. All Australian kids are going to reach 18, like they're homeschooled, you know?

I'm just going to have these, like, you know, like, what does that mean for, and they're on social media? Well, no. It's not like it's been successful. It hasn't? No, their kids know how to get around it. Yeah, but parents aren't parents held responsible if their kids are on social media there? I know they did that there.

They didn't do anything. I don't know. I mean, that's a one step. That's a major step that needed to be taken. It is. Yeah. I mean, I think the regulation of social media and Silicon Valley, like, I mean, I shudder to think what's going to happen once the circle jerk that is Silicon Valley

collapses, you know, like it's going to be implode. It's something, you know, it's just of, it's wild. It's a wild time to be alive. It is. many unstable men with huge swaths of power. And it's just like, that's, we know this doesn't work. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it.

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Listen to Hey, Jonas, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let me ask you a question. If in order to avoid this cruise that you're performing on, you had to go on a boat with Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez. That's option one. I'm going to give you a selection. Okay? I love this game. I love this game.

Is Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez. You have to go away with just the two of them on the boat and have every meal with them for a week, for a week, for the nine days. Sorry, you're going for nine days. So nine days. You can either go with them. You can go with Elon Musk and whoever he's dating. Or you can go with Mark Zuckerberg and his wife for the nine days.

You have to choose one of those couples. Okay. Well, not Elon Musk. Sorry, I threw that one in there without thinking. No, I mean, they're a trifecta. I'm sure they all feel the same way about the same thing. They're a trifecta. I think I could cope with all of them because I would make them

jump overboard. I could, you know, if it's just them, I could work them. I would win one-on-one with any of those guys. Absolutely. Like I can, I will out, I know how to annoy people like that. I've met Jeff. I annoyed him. Did you?

When did you meet him? I went to his silly little camp. Oh, Amazon for Amazon? Yeah, yeah. How was that? It was weird. It was a cult and I told him. And I stopped trying to start a cult.

You're not charming enough. Oh. I know. He really isn't charming. He did all the things. They invite people, but they don't tell them why. And sometimes they invite you back, and sometimes they don't. It's one-o-one.

And he was trying, you know, he's like, oh, let's get all this culture here. I'm like, what, the culture you're actively trying to destroy? Cool story, buddy. Yeah, I once went to one of those think tanks weekends for Google years ago. And I just remember, I met some interesting people that I'm still in touch with. But overall, it felt like you were, yeah, a part of a group that wasn't going to age well. Yeah, think tanks a funny concept. It is a funny concept.

As if once you all get together, you're going to come up with all these great ideas and solutions. We know committees work well. Aren't you happy you don't have a child? You know, kinder, but who's going to look after me when I'm old? Jenny. But that's not why you have children. No, that is not why you have children. Look, part of me, yes, absolutely, because it's just so much to think about.

And then as like as soon as you have a child, you've got to start booking them in for their education. It's so much, you know, so much decision making. and then but I think you know the idea of children remain sensible because it's like it keeps you connected I think I'm going to recede I'm just full witch I'm gray guarding gray garden don't you go out and about at all I mean you're not going to recede by just because you're off of social media I don't buy that I'm no I'm actively trying to go out and about I really became a lock-in. I got, the anxiety was bad and then it became a habit. I didn't recover from the pandemic. I just wasn't leaving the house. So I've started taking myself on little jaunts and just

rebuilding my confidence because, you know, when Nanette happened, like I couldn't go out, it was really a lot, you know, and I wasn't used to being perceived, you know. I was someone who could go out and observe and that's how I lived, you know, skulking. So it sort of like took me a long time. Now, I took myself to the football as I went to a major sporting event the other day. Being in a crowd was kind of exciting. A lot of men, I think it's important to keep an eye on the patriarchy. So I'm following Australian rules football and Formula One. I saw that you were into Formula One and I was wondering what that was about.

I've been to a Formula One race. I went last summer in... Which one? Miami or... No, I was in Europe. I was in Europe. Oh, smart choice. I must have been in Barcelona, outside of Barcelona. Yeah. Oh, yes.

Yes. Yeah. Classic. How did you go? Too noisy, right? Too noisy. I loved it. The catering was incredible.

I mean, it was... What did you have? What snacks? Everything. They had beautiful catering stations upstairs in that VIP section and you could get a steak and then you could get pasta and then you could get... I mean, they had everything you could imagine and it wasn't like just nice food at a VIP event. It was next level.

Like it was beautiful food, beautiful drinks. I mean, I barely watched the radio. You know, I wasn't really there for that. Did you do the grid walk? I did. I did do the grid walk. Did you get that really insanely awkward interview? Who was his name?

Brom? Yes, I did. I'm obsessed with him. Obsessed with him. Have you ever watched that happen outside of the one you participated in? I have watched it. I don't know that I saw that interview. I've seen F1, but not that interview.

He's just walking through. Nobody wants to talk to him. And he's just him and the cameraman. and they don't know how to follow each other and has the most awkward conversation. I live for it. The whole thing was quite awkward, actually, because, yeah, they put you down with all the other,

like, VIPs or celebrities that are there, and I'm not in a Formula One, so I don't even want to be, like, I don't even want to be seen there because I don't want to have to answer questions about Formula One. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I know exactly.

I just get to sound like a fucking asshole. So I was like, please, I don't want to be interviewed, and then they wrangle you and they ask you questions, and you're just trying to be as banal, as possible in your answers and responses. But yeah, it was quite a, it was an interesting watching those guys get into those cars. That was where they're, like, they're holding these hoses to them to keep them cool with air conditioning because they're so, so they're blowing this freezing cool, well, Fri-on, I think,

onto them, or not Fri-on, but whatever, it's called coolant. They're blowing it onto them as they get in these suits and their cars. And these guys are dripping before they even take off. And that's before the door is closed. So I was more like shocked by the door is closed. There's no door, right? Whatever that is. There's no door.

Is there a top thing? It's a top thing. They close like that. They just put a little thing. It's open top kind of me. They just put a little like a heavy scarf. That's my takeaway that there was a door. So obviously I was paying very close attention.

But I was more concerned about their temperatures. I couldn't get my mind off of how hot. they must be. Is it because of all the fire retardant they're wearing or what? I think it's a pretty high. Also, it's just a hot sport. They're sitting there running motors and revving engines and so it's really hot in that room where you go. Famously, not a lot of trees on a Formula One track.

Well, Hannah Gadsby, this has been a very big pleasure. I really enjoy you. I am glad that you have Jenny in your life. Yes, yes, we're all glad. And I'm glad that you're doing well. And your new special is fantastic. It's called Woof. Everybody can watch it on YouTube.

It's also a full album. Like it's only the 20 minutes on YouTube. And then there's like the 80-minute show on audio only. The tackle I like. Yeah. And so it's like a book on tape, but much funer. Much funnier than any funny book on tape. No.

That's right. I like tape. Yeah. Audio book. Tape doors. You know, we're bringing all the stuff back. Tape doors. driveways, heat, whatever. Okay, well, Hannah, we'll let you go. Thank you so much for your time today.

I thought we were doing questions for other people who have problems. We ended up talking for a full hour. This was a full hour, so we don't have time to take questions. I was so looking forward to other people. I knew you weren't looking forward to that. So I kind of was like, let's just keep talking. No, I had answers. Never know. All right. I love it. Thank you so much for being with us. It's been lovely. I, um, one day. we will hang out. Yeah, well, when I come to Australia, I'll hit you up. Yeah, I have a plus one on the cruise, if you want.

Okay, let me think about that. Let me sleep on that and get back to you. Well, best wishes, you're doing a marvelous job. I also enjoy you. I enjoy how you've evolved. It's not as in you had to evolve, but as a human, we evolve. And it's hard to do that in the public eye

when people want to pin you where they understand you. and I think you've navigated quite a graceful career. Oh, that's so nice of you. Thank you. Thank you. I can do it. Yes, you can. Lo puerto a ser. That's Spanish for you can do it. Well, that's Spanish for I can do it.

Oh, thank you. Chelsea can do it. I can't speak English or Spanish anymore. I don't know what to say to that. Adios. Oh, of course. Goodbye. Bye, Hannah.

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