Dear Chelsea - You Are a Badass with Jen Sincero
Episode Date: March 30, 2023Chelsea and Catherine are joined by Jen Sincero to talk about why what you tell yourself becomes your truth, being broke in your forties, and shifting your energy to change your life. Then: A school...teacher finds herself unlovable. A fiance feels guilty about her student loan debt. And a fashionista dreams of a life like the DIY bloggers she sees online. * Books in this episode: You are a Badass You are a Badass at Making Money Think and Grow Rich * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com. * Executive Producer Catherine Law Editor & Engineer Brad Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees. This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, Catherine. Oh, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, Katherine.
Oh, hello, Chelsea.
Oh, hello.
Shabbat shalom.
I have an update from Chloe, who we talked to on our Laura Lynn Jackson episode.
She was the one who was having trouble finding work, and she'd kind of like been going after
it for so long and
wasn't getting any feedback or any responses to her resumes.
So Chloe says, Laura Lynn Jackson is magical.
On January 3rd, I started a full-time job working in media and marketing at a local
indie book publisher.
Can you believe it?
Thanks for reaching out and big thanks for blessing me with being seen by Laurelyn Jackson. It's all happening. Yes. She was like two weeks to the
day after I shifted my energy. It all started happening. I thought that was so great.
And then she also said, one last thing, knowing what Laurelyn Jackson is about, signs, angels,
I can't help but feel like Chelsea's angels helped work some magic for me.
My new job is across the street from a place called Chewy's.
Oh, that's so cute.
Isn't that so sweet?
Yeah.
Just loved that.
I just loved that.
So you know what?
This stuff about shifting your energy, it really is true.
It works, everybody. It works. And if people don't know what we're talking about, all the, it really is true. It works, everybody.
It works.
And if people don't know what we're talking about, all the books we're talking about will
teach you the way.
And if you're listening to us and you're like, oh, what does that mean?
What does that mean?
It's like you want to bring positivity into your life.
You want to bring inspiration into your life.
You want to attract goodness, right?
And high vibes.
You don't want to sit around being negative. Like,
you just have to think all the negative thoughts pile up, pile up, and then you are just like a
negative trash bin. Like you are just attracting that and you're stuck. And so when you start to
flip it and just go, okay, I'm going to look at this as a positive, even when things don't turn
out the way you want, go, this is an opportunity for growth. This is an opportunity for me not to
get upset and for me to figure out a solution without getting angry, without reacting.
You'll be amazed at how quickly you can grow and how quickly things start to be easier.
It's like life doesn't have to be hard. We make it hard by our reactions to things.
So you can always choose another way. Well, with that in mind, we have somebody really exciting
joining us today.
I've recommended her book a bunch of times, even on this podcast.
Oh, yeah, yeah. She's celebrating the 10-year anniversary of her number one New York Times
bestseller, You Are a Badass, How to Stop Doubting Your Greatness and Start Living an Awesome Life.
And she has a few other books too, but we're celebrating the 10-year anniversary of this one.
So please welcome New York Times bestselling author and celebrated voice in the world of self-development,
Jen Sincero. Hi, Jen. Thank you so much for having me on. I'm so, so psyched.
Oh, hi. Nice to meet you, Jen. You too, Chelsea. You are just such, such a badass.
Oh, well, yes. Well, you wrote the book on badasses. This is I know you're coming up on
your 10 year anniversary, right? Yeah. For your book, which was a very big, big hit and continues
to be which is called You Are a Badass, How to Stop Doubting Your Greatness and Start Living an
Awesome Life. And Catherine is very passionate and has been very passionate about your book.
So it's very inspiring.
Yeah, I've mentioned it on this podcast many times. We get a lot of people calling in who are like, I'm just feeling so lost. I don't know what to do next. And I know for me,
when I was at a very similar point in my life to that, your book was very life-changing for me.
Happy to hear that.
But Jen, tell us a little bit about what kind
of woke you up because I know you were kind of going through a crisis of sorts, right?
When you decided to take your life by the balls and make something happen with yourself.
Yeah. It was like a 40-year crisis, basically. Just like, you know, I was having a lot of fun.
I was traveling. I was playing music, but I was just always so broke. And I was actually living in a garage in an alley in Venice Beach. And I was like 40 years old. And
I was just like, seriously, this is the best you can do. So, you know, it wasn't sort of like the
lightning bolt, like I almost got hit by a bus and then I finally got my shit together. But it was
more just, first of all, being broke is bull of ring.
And second of all, I was like, I just had this feeling that there was so much more I could be doing with my life and that I wasn't doing it. And that was so much more painful than anything,
honestly. And so I just made the decision and you know, you don't have to wait until your life
completely bottoms out to make a decision to change stuff. So I just, I made the decision.
I started reading all the self-help books. I went to all the, any seminar I was there with like my
little name tag, high-fiving people, telling them they're awesome, hugging all these weird strangers.
Like I didn't care whatever I had to do, I did it. And then in that process, I, you know, I read
every self-help book under the sun. I was like, yeah, I could write a funny
one. No one's written a funny one. Where's the one with all the curses and can write stories,
making fun of my family and stuff like that. So that's sort of what led to the idea because I was
a writer already, a broke writer. And then what happened after that? You just started writing a
book? I hired a coach and I was reading the books and I started my own online life coaching business,
started making a lot of money and really figured that if I could crack the code,
like, because really I was so deeply immersed in a poverty consciousness
and it was such a part of my identity. And I was like, if I can get my act together,
anybody can. Like I was just so white knuckling it you know fighting for like i
can't make money you know i'm living in a garage in my 40s like i was proving it all the time so
i was like okay my story was so deep and so boring and lasted so long that i knew i could tell people
how to do it so that's that's sort of what inspired me writing the book and then it just
took off it was sort of a slow build. I call it the yellow
snowball because it just kept getting bigger and bigger. And we didn't make it onto the New York
Times list until three years after the book was out. And it's stayed like five years. It just
keeps growing. It's incredible. Wow, that's incredible. So you talk a lot about manifestation,
but you also talk about doing all of the work that is needed in order to
manifest something. And which is, I think, a good area to start talking about as well,
because I think a lot of people think, okay, if I manifest it, I think it's going to happen.
Like it's not a magic trick. You actually have to move towards that goal.
Right. And you got to do a lot of stuff that scares the crap out of you. So that really is
sort of the, you know, the teachings, it's all the things. It's the
meditating and getting quiet and allowing universal intelligence to lead the way and
follow your intuition instead of following your mindset, which is what got you where you are right
now. So it really is about thinking outside the box instead of saying things like, I can't afford
it. I'm too broke, you too broke to sort of shift it to
money flows to me easily and freely, which is what I kept saying over and over, even though I was
still living in the garage. But it's about opening up to the greater possibility instead of staying
with your blinders on. And then opportunities come your way that have been there all along,
but then you're like, oh, maybe I should
hire that coach who charges one-third of my annual income. Then when you start to shift your mindset,
the possibilities that arise, you don't suddenly excuse your way out of them. You start to figure
out how you're going to figure it out and make it happen. How has your life changed since you were 40? Oh my God.
I now have a garage instead of living it.
It's been so much fun.
I mean, I've written three more books in the Badass brand.
I've been traveling the world and helping wake people up.
It's so much fun to really be able to help people live their one and only life on planet
Earth in a much more satisfying and fun way. So
it's just, it's been awesome. Yeah. It is a real gift to be able to like inspire people and lift
them up out of their depression or negative space that they're in and be like, come on,
you can get the ball rolling in a different direction. And I think it just takes, you know,
sometimes you can't get that from within. Sometimes you do need somebody else to kick
you in the ass before you understand that you else to kick you in the ass before you understand that
you need to kick yourself in the ass to keep things moving because there's always a choice
about how we're going to move forward and if we're going to accept our circumstances
or we're going to do everything we can to change them, right?
Exactly.
You have to have ambition about what your future is going to be.
Yeah.
And I think what you said, like, do whatever it takes.
That really is sort of, you know, we all get to a certain point and then we freak out because it's too
expensive or we might look stupid. And when you've made that decision that you're not screwing around
anymore, you run straight towards the thing that scares the crap out of you the most. And I really
feel like that makes all the difference in the world. And I also think honestly, like what you're
doing and, and, you know, doing it with some comedy and some levity, I feel like that opens it up to a whole new audience who wouldn't touch
this kind of stuff with a 10-foot pole. So that was part of my goal too. Yeah. I think that's so
important for someone who might be just dipping their toe into this water, like reading books.
I know, Jen, you've talked about like Think and Grow Rich and these other like kind of more old school self-help books, but constantly filling your mind with
something that is going to raise your frequency is so hugely helpful. I know that's something
both of you do. Yeah, it's important because it's easy to sit and watch a dumb show. That's easy.
It's better to watch something you don't know anything about like a documentary or, you know, I watched this full swing golf documentary. I can't stand golf,
but I'm like, well, that's better than watching some fucking stupid drama about, you know what
I mean? At least I'm going to learn about golf. Like maybe I'll need to know something about golf
one day. Hopefully I don't ever need to know anything about it. But you know, all of those
things, it's like you make choices about how to like fill your cup more, right? My cup of knowledge,
like it's so important for me to always be learning and to always be gleaning something. I read three fiction books when I got to Whistler this year and I was like, that's enough. Okay. You had your cake and now it's time to do some real work. Like the next book has to be, you know, like a serious nonfiction historical. Like I have put so much pressure on myself, but it's like their argument about not putting
too much pressure on or not putting enough pressure on yourself. We do have to pressure
ourselves. Everything comes from us. Everything comes from within. And when you are not trying
to evolve or learn, then you kind of are stagnant and you kind of are stuck and you're just doing
the things that you like to
do all the time. It's like, that should be a huge part of your life doing things you like to do.
But it's also so beneficial to constantly be challenging and learning. Like my niece was up
here and she was talking about Martin Luther and Lutheranism and how, you know, the Protestant
church and how it was created. And I was like, huh, I don't remember that name. And I must have missed that day or week or month about Lutheranism and Martin Luther.
And she told me all about it, you know, and then I got a book.
I'm like, all right, my 18 year old niece just schooled me on Martin Luther.
And I'm like, okay, great.
Motivating.
Like she just motivated me to go read a book about Martin Luther.
So now I know what the fuck I'm talking about.
And that feels so good to like the knowledge is power, more knowledge, more power, more growth. And like you said, when you fill your cup,
it can overflow onto the people around you with knowledge, with brightness, with lightness,
all of that. Yeah. I call it going to the spiritual gym. Like you don't get to get in
shape and then stay in shape. Like you got to keep exercising the mindset muscle. So.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
And the exercise of meditation, this comes up all the time, how boring it is or people
don't think they're doing it well because their thoughts are moving.
It's like, it's okay if your thoughts are moving.
If you can't control your thoughts and you can't be completely blank, that's okay.
It's the act of the meditation cumulatively that adds to you, that brings something.
You're setting a certain amount of time aside every morning to be with yourself. That's something. That's not nothing, regardless of
whether you think you're doing it well or not, because there isn't really a measure of that
either. And what other little tricks do you have up your sleeve, things that you do as a part of
your daily routine? Let's see. I'm a big hiker, so getting outside and moving is always a great
energy shifter for me.
Music, definitely.
When I was working on this, I had to put a moratorium on listening to Neil Young because
I love Neil, but he's so fucking depressing.
It was so depressing.
I know.
I have a Neil Young playlist too.
And sometimes I'm like, no, I'm going to kill myself.
It's like, yeah, I put on Paul Simon to feel good.
And then Neil Young pops up and I'm like, no, no, no, it's too dark.
I'm trying to get shit done here.
Yeah. So there And then Neil Young pops up and I'm like, no, no, no, it was too dark. I'm trying to get shit done here. Yeah. So there's no Neil Young, but like,
you know, music that pumps you up, hanging out with people who inspire you is great.
Listening to podcasts like this, you know, just, but you got to have it down. You got to have a routine down. You can't just sort of wing it every morning. I think it's really important to know
when you're meditating, to know where you're meditating, to know, you know, have your playlist,
have your little routine. If you read a book for like five minutes every morning, you got to make it like a gym workout
because otherwise you won't do it. And then, you know, then you wake up at 90 with your teeth in
a cup and you're like, what happened to my life? I was going to be so off. So. And what can you
think of as far as your life coaching? Are there any examples of really inspiring transformations
that you were able to see in another person?
Oh, yeah.
So, so many.
One of the things I love that has been coming up a lot is people with money.
I think money is so interesting.
And because I studied it so in depth and because I really had such a massive transformation
around it, I'm a little obsessed by it.
And that whole concept that money is currency and currency is energy. So money is just an energetic exchange between people. And when you
work the wickedy woo and like meditate and get in touch with source and focus on abundance and
being in the flow energetically with money, which really is what it's all about. That's what the
mantras are about. And that's why you don't walk around saying, I can't afford it. And you say,
money flows to me easily and freely. That's about that frequency. And I can't tell you how
many clients of mine have had stories about needing an exact amount of money. This one guy
that I just talked to had a business that tanked and he needed $249,000
to sort of carry his lifestyle over and to start to launch his new business. And that amount of
money came in out of the clear blue sky, just so unexpected. And it was from an old business that
he forgot that he was closing down, but it was the exact amount of money. And this happens all
the time when people need to pay their rent or whatever it is. So the energy that you put on money and the focus of the
specifics, it comes in all the time, which is really exciting. I had a really similar experience
not long ago. I had a job that was supposed to pay me this very weirdly specific amount of money.
And I wound up leaving that job because the fit wasn't right, the energy
was bad, it was a bit toxic, etc. And I felt like it was the right thing for me to leave that job.
And when I went on to the next job, I felt this sort of confirmation that that had been the right
choice because I wound up getting a bonus of exactly that same amount of money for the next thing that I wound up doing.
And it just felt a little bit like a nod from the universe of like, you did the right thing.
And what was one of the most impactful things for you, Catherine, when you read the book
originally?
I think having mantras and having those sorts of things were really helpful for me.
And there was a time in the beginning where it felt like I was faking it, like it felt, you know, I was coming from a place where there was some self-deprecating humor,
the sort of self-talk stuff. And it wasn't fun for anyone else to hear. And it also wasn't fun
for me. And so reading your book talked about like, even if it feels like you're totally faking
it, changing the language around how you talk to yourself, you even if it feels like you're totally faking it, changing the
language around how you talk to yourself.
It starts with you have the thought or you say the thing that's derogatory or negative,
and then you switch and you might say this thing that feels so out of character, whether
it's about beauty or whether it's about positivity or how successful you are or money, saying
to yourself something
different, it feels very difficult at first. But then after a while, it becomes such a habit and
it raises your energy. It just makes you feel so much better to talk about yourself, to talk about
the way you live your life in a positive way, that it changes everything around you. It changes how people react to you. It changes
the sort of opportunities that come to you. It changes just really how you feel on a really deep
level. And that was huge. Yeah. And it's like a job. It's a full-time job to keep yourself and
your vibration high. Yes. It's active work. It's not like you can just fix yourself and like you
go to therapy and you're done or you learned how to meditate, but you're done with that too. Like, no, you have to actively constantly bring yourself
up, right. You know, and keep yourself there. Yeah. And, you know, and, you know, the self-help
world gets a lot of shade for, for being like, you know, you're going to be all Pollyanna,
like somebody runs over your foot and you're supposed to be in a good mood about it. You
know, it's not about not being human and not having emotions and not having temper tantrums and freaking out and pity parties and
all that, but it's about not identifying with that and not staying there and not feeding the beast
and dragging it through the mud forever. You know, it's about feeling your feelings and then making
conscious choices on where you're going to place your focus moving forward. Yeah. And also not
being a victim.
You know, I can imagine that you must have felt like a victim for a long time living in a garage, but like there isn't a victim.
We're not victims.
Like we have the ability to pull ourselves out of anything.
So when you're in that victim state of mind and you're blaming everybody else for everything
that's going on in your life, like then you are stuck.
You have to take yourself out
and take responsibility for your own actions
and behave like a fucking queen.
Behave like you want to be seen
and like you want to see yourself.
And that means raising it up.
Like, okay, I only have the power to take care of myself.
You know, I used to be such a victim mentality.
I would be broke and I would blame this person
and that person. It's like you're broke because you're waiting tables and you don't save any money.
That's why you're broke. That's why you have to ask for loans from your family every year when
I was in my twenties. And if they didn't want to give me money, I'd be mad at them. I'd be like,
oh, how can you not help me? It's like, what? It was just such an immature state of mind.
So every one of us is a queen, okay?
And I'm talking to all the gay men out there too.
You guys are queens with us.
Okay, so Catherine, what do we have in store for us today?
I think a lot of stuff that is right up both of your alleys.
We have a question about meditation,
which I think is really good and solid.
We have some self-love stuff,
some stuff around how people feel about themselves, some how do I change
my life stuff. But let's take a quick break and we'll be right back with Jen and Chelsea.
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And we're back. We're back. So Jen, we have people
right in. We also have callers who will be joining us as well. But I wanted to start with this
question, and I thought it was very sweet and very honest. Drew says, Dear Chelsea,
my question is not related to any specific problem I'm enduring or a situation I'm dealing with. It's general and broad, and I'm afraid it might sound dumb, but what is meditation?
You talk about it all the time and how transformative it's been for you.
I feel like I need a transformation too, but I'm not sure where to start.
Do I download Headspace and just start listening to their recordings?
Do I just sit in silence for a few minutes?
What do you think about when you meditate?
How do you do it? Thanks for being a source of humor, advice, and love for millions
of people. I genuinely can't explain how iconic and important you are. Please keep doing you,
Drew. I would say that meditation is whatever works for you. Yes, download Headspace. Start
there. That's very pedestrian, right? You can get into it. It's clear. It's guided. It helps you understand what you're doing.
And the idea of meditation is to drop all of your thoughts, but that's the goal. That's not always
the act. You know what I mean? It's hard for us to drop our thoughts. The goal of meditation is
to be focusing on your breath, to be envisioning the thing that makes you calm down and focus on
your in and out breath a lot. There's
different forms of meditation, but to just get into it, yeah, the idea that you think you need
it means you do. Everyone can benefit from meditation and many people do it by sitting
alone without any guidance. I don't. I have the Chopra app, which I like because there are classes
and series so I can do a class for 10 days and every morning it's 20 minutes on, you know, letting go or a spiritual awakening or whatever you choose. But headspace is probably the
easiest way to get into meditation, I would say. So that's a great start. And then you decide what
you like. You sample a bunch, you know, you can, you try calm, you can try the Chopra app, you can
try Eckhart Tolle, you can try like all these different kinds of ways to do it.
And it's an important gift to give to yourself because it's forcing you to sit still.
And most of us are not doing that.
You know, we're not sitting still without watching TV or reading a book or working on
something.
We're never sitting still alone with our thoughts.
And the idea of meditation is to drop your thoughts, to have your thoughts just stay
out of the way. Like when a thought comes, you're supposed to be like, okay, let it pass. And then
I'm going to get back into the breathing and the focusing on myself. I always think about like
these beautiful lights around me. I think about my mother and my brother as like my spirit guides
and all of that niceness. I just, it's all love and happiness and warm fuzzies for me.
Jen, what's your experience with meditation?
I'm in just a better mood if I do it.
I'm nicer.
My friends like me more.
Yeah, it's a good intention setting for the day.
Yeah, and I also recommend if you're starting
and it's difficult, just start small.
Like start with seven minutes
and then just work your way up.
Don't make yourself do 30 minutes right at the get-go.
And honestly, for me, it's
just when you slow down your thoughts and you move them aside, it strengthens your intuition.
It strengthens your connection with the universal intelligence, which knows a hell of a lot more
than we do. So if you're looking for answers, sometimes it's really nice to just sort of have
that question floating around and then you can meditate and just whatever little hunch you get, like if it's like, go buy a loaf of bread, that might lead you
towards something that you're looking for answers for. You just don't really know.
So the thing that I think is so lovely about meditation is it strengthens your ability to
hear those hunches and to feel those hits and then to go act on them. And that's where the
real party starts because what
do they say? Like 90% of our thoughts are just regurgitated and aren't actually helpful and are
not moving us in the direction we want to be going. So we get into habits of thought. And so
when you want to change your life, you don't want to keep thinking the same damn thoughts
because those are the ones that got you where you are right now. So that's the great thing about
meditation is that it breaks that habit of thought and allows you
to expand your thought process and just go a lot, lot bigger than where you are right now.
Yeah. And I think that's why this question did come up for Drew is it can look so many different
ways. Like Chelsea, I remember on the Ben Bruno episode, he was like, why don't meditate? But I
do this box breathing where I breathe in for four, hold it for four, breathe out
for four.
And you're like, but that is meditation.
You're focusing on your breath.
You're listening.
You're getting quiet.
And it can look so different for everybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No one's ever started meditating and been like, that fucked me up.
So just start.
Yes.
Wasn't it the Dalai Lama who said everybody should meditate for an hour unless you're
really busy and then you should meditate for two.
Yes.
Yeah.
It helps with sleep.
It helps with all the things.
So Drew, let us know how it goes on your meditation journey.
Our next question comes from a caller.
We have Kenya here with us.
Kenya is 35 and she says, dear Chelsea, I first want to start by saying how amazing
you are and your podcast is exactly what I needed.
I love how honest you are, and I strive to be like that instead of just trying to people
please all the time.
I'm Canadian and love how much you love my country.
So here is where I need help.
I was single for a very long time until I found an
amazing man who is truly just one of the best humans I've ever met. And now we're getting
married. We had the finance talk very early on, but I still have a hard time not feeling embarrassed
about my student loan debt. My fiance is very supportive, but I've always been a very independent
person. I've paid my own bills since I was 16 and
never asked for help financially, so I'm having a hard time, and I just feel bad to bring this
burden of my student loan into our marriage. I know I'm very hard on myself. Even when I'm
wedding planning, I try to do the bare minimum because I feel like I don't deserve to spend much
on anything because I'm still paying my student loan. How can I stop feeling embarrassed about
my debt and learn to ask for help when I need it?
I want to be excited about my future and my wedding,
but the anxiety and worry about money
is just so overpowering.
Love, Kenya.
Worry.
I was reading that about worry and stress
and what a waste of time both of those things are, right?
Stressing about things or overthinking things
and running through this, obsessing about things or overthinking things and running
through this, obsessing about things. It's such a waste of energy. And when you're talking about,
Jen, like telling yourself a new story, that's exactly what it is. You have to start creating
a new narrative that is in your head and discarding the old one, which is easier said than done,
but it's easier than people think. It's just so much easier than people think. Yeah.
It's a choice. And it really is. And it's that awareness of like, okay, I keep telling myself that I'm a big fat
loser because I'm in debt. But at least once you become aware of that, you can change the thought.
You can really focus on changing that mantra. It's like when something doesn't go the way that
you were expecting it to go, like even in a day, like, oh, something gets canceled or the person
that's picking you up can no longer pick you up. Like the reaction to that should be like, okay,
great. Now let me figure out another way. Not like, fuck, people get so stuck in their reaction
to something like, oh, I can't believe she's not picking me up. I can't, how am I supposed to get
there now? It's like pretty easily if you just use your head, like you can find another way.
There's always another way. And it's just so much less hard on your body and brain to stop obsessing and belaboring
the same idea.
So true.
I mean, they say disease is dis-ease.
Like it is hard on your body, like that kind of stuff.
It's really unhealthy.
Stress is a massive killer, you know?
It's also like in this book, I love letting go.
They're talking about being okay with embarrassing yourself. There's a very specific chapter on dancing and I don't
dance because I'm very self-conscious when I dance. And it talked about letting go,
let go of your insecurity, let go, be free with your body. And this weekend I went to this party
and I danced for like two hours. My friends had never seen me dance like that. I was like,
you know what? I'm going to do that. I'm going to fucking go and just look like an idiot. And who gives a shit?
And there were hundreds of people there. And I did look like an idiot because my friend videotaped
me and showed it to me the next day. But I was able to laugh at myself instead of being embarrassed.
I was able to go, good. Good for you for trying something new. You want to be free. I don't want
to be the person who's at a party that doesn't dance and is, you know, kind of like just embarrassed to show people that I don't
really know what I'm doing or that I'm a little tone deaf. Who gives a shit? And I know that's
probably surprising to hear from me, but it's true. Like that was the one thing that I'm very
self-conscious about. So I'm trying to dismantle that and making myself go to places and dance.
That's so interesting. So what is it that you think, like, what are you
thinking about why you can't do it? Cause you just don't have the moves. Like what?
I just, I'm in, I'm in my head. I've got this thing. Like you can't catch the beat. You don't
know how to dance. And I'm like, yeah, you do. You can find, there's a bunch of morons dancing
out there. Like you, why don't you just become one of them? Like everyone. And it's obviously
very freeing to do it, but there was a very specific chapter
in this book about a person who was scared to do it.
And I was like, it resonated.
It was like speaking directly to me.
I felt.
Hi.
Hi, Kenya.
Hi.
Jen, do you have some thoughts for Kenya?
Well, yeah.
I mean, every, it's all perception, right?
So it sounds like your husband's cool with it.
You've got all the support around it.
And this is just something you're doing to yourself because it's so fun. Yeah. Yeah. So,
you know, we were talking earlier about how money is currency and currency is energy and
the energy that you put around this, you're just, it's like any other nasty belief you've got about
yourself. It's all in your head and you get to choose whether you focus on your lack of money
or you get to choose to focus on the fact that you have so much support and so much love
from your husband.
And this is one of the most exciting things that's ever going to happen to you.
And that money is fluid and it comes and it goes.
And of course you can get out of this debt.
And it really is just a mindset and getting that excitement in yourself.
Cause do you believe deep down that you can make money like
somewhere down in the gut of you yes like i've always been a triple job kind of person double
job but once i met my fiance i kind of i realized i had to draw back on the work because i wasn't
focusing as much in our relationship because i was working so much. I had a full-time
job and a part-time job. So literally the hours that I had free, I was working. So because I had
that in the back of my head and I knew he was the one I was going to marry. So I was just trying to
work so hard to kind of make it less of this big debt by the time we were ready to get married.
Yeah.
I think a shift for you might be around not having to break your back over working so
many jobs.
I don't think that's what it's going to be about for you moving forward.
Maybe there's a different shift for you that's about finding a job that's better paying in
your same field or a totally different job altogether,
you know, because you may have skills that you can put to use in another line of work that pays
a lot better. But the other thing too is, you know, your fiance is going into this with full
knowledge. You're not hiding anything from him. I'm sure he had debts that whether student or
otherwise that he had to pay off whether it's a car payment or whatever else.
These are things that come up in life.
We have things that we have to pay for.
And I don't think that that is something that means you need to cut things from your
wedding.
Give yourself your budget and do your best to stick to it.
But conflating those two things I think is not something that you need to be doing
because I think you deserve to have a beautiful wedding that feels like you and you guys have
the rest of your lives to deal with this payment and get it out of the way and be able to live
your lives.
Yeah, I guess where it comes to like, I find that I always have a hard time time being the okay i need help kind of thing
and not even asking for it because i know i don't need to ask for it but just knowing that
he will take on this that for us to be able to like afford a house or anything so it's just
it's almost like you guys said like i have to mentally prepare and mentally be okay with that. This is what I have to deal with. I mean,
my student loan is what got me through school and then I'm able to get a job and pay for it,
which I'm grateful for. But I guess, yes, mentally, I just have to.
Does your fiance know about your debt yet or no?
Yeah. We had talked about it at the beginning of our relationship before he even proposed. So he knew
and he was just like, okay, we got to get it paid so we can get a bigger house because he owns his
house too. So it just, I don't know, I feel like we're both equally. Yeah, but listen, you're in a
great situation that you're not even seeing. Like you told him he's fine with it and he wants to
help you. That's incredible. That's an incredible support system. This is a great
development. You got an education that unfortunately you have to pay all this money for,
but you have your education and now you have your husband and he's supportive of it. Like there
isn't a bad side to this. You just have to move forward and continue paying down your debt so
that it is an onus off your back, but it's nothing to be ashamed of. Do you know how many hundreds of millions of
people have college debt? I mean, come on. You're not the only one. There's nothing to be ashamed
of. It's not like you got in debt on your own because you shopped too much and now you have
like $60,000 and you have nothing to show for it, you have an education. So like all of this is just,
these are all good things. You're moving towards your goals. And so instead of looking at it like
you're some burden, look at it as now you have a new sense of freedom. Now you have help to pay
down your student loans, you know, and then one day you're going to be able to help him with
something. And I would recommend Jen's book, You Are a Badass at Making Money. Two of the biggest
lessons I think for me from that book were money is a thing that like we have all of these really
emotional associations with and it can fill our heads with a whole lot of trash just like, you
know, in your situation. Like it's not as much about the money as it is about how you're thinking
about it. And the other thing is that money is a renewable resource.
You know, we think like, I spent all this money
and we have these like bills weighing over us.
But like we talked about,
maybe it's not about working two, three jobs.
Maybe it's about finding the thing
that will actually pay you more or your future husband.
But at the same time, like money is a renewable resource
and it's going to keep coming to you.
You're hardworking.
You're going to figure it out. And it's not like you have this finite limited amount moving forward.
Think of it that way. That's been really helpful for me. I know. Yeah, no, that's really helpful.
And I also want to just chime in with, this is such an opportunity. Also, he wants to help you.
This is part of your relationship where it is about receiving. He wants to help you. This is part of your relationship where
it is about receiving and allowing him to help you. You're not dumping a big burden on him.
He wants to provide for you. He loves you. So I think it also is really going to help crack you
open and have an even more intimate relationship with him. It's not to say you're not going to
do everything you can to pay down the debt and just put your feet up and eat bonbons for the
rest of your marriage, but let him help you and let him feel like a man and take care of it, you know?
And guilt is just a wasted, wasted, wasted emotion. Stop feeling guilty. You know what I mean? Move
into action. Move into action and you have something beautiful to look forward to. A
beautiful wedding. You're going to have one, hopefully. So make it count and stop beating
yourself up about all of the other stuff. Enjoy the moment that you're in instead of worrying
about past decisions. It's like your decisions were right. You had no choice. What are we going
to do? Not get an education? No, you wanted an education. So you did what was necessary.
These are all good things. Yeah. Yeah. And I also recommend it's kind of a fun exercise you can do
where you write a letter to money as if it's a person so that you can unearth all of your weirdness around it. Money
is the most loaded topic, like more than religion, more than sex, like money is just got so much
going on. So write it stream of consciousness, push yourself and just be like, dear money,
I love you, but I feel like a dirty whore admitting I want you around. Like, you know,
get into your stuff around it
and see the push-pull that you've got.
And then once you pick like the three hottest things
that are the most icky to you,
that's when you flip those ones on their heads
and really work on shifting your mindset.
This can be such a gift for you.
This can be way more about getting over this debt.
This can be about you becoming rich
and really facing your money issues.
So it can be a really good thing. Yeah, no, it definitely sounds like when you guys talk about it, I can
see that my issue has always been asking for help as something to help and that we are way like we
are always so we are about talking about money. So yes, that's really helpful, guys. Yeah,
we're going into a partnership. So you don't have to
do it all yourself anymore. Right? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Well, Kenya, send us a wedding photo.
And we wish you the best of luck. Let us know how it goes. Okay.
I will. Thank you so much for all your help. It was lovely talking to you.
Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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This question is from Haley.
She says, wonderful. We love having help from both sides of our family, taking care of our kids, so my husband and I can both work and provide for our family. I've spent the last 12 years establishing myself
at a company where I started as an unpaid intern and worked my way up to an established integral
part of our organization. Like I said, on paper, my life seems pretty great. However, I find myself
struggling to find purpose and meaning in my day-to-day life. I wouldn't say
I'm depressed, but I do wake up with this lackluster feeling more and more. I no longer
feel challenged at work, and while I love my kids and husband, I don't want my legacy to be just a
mom or a wife, as awful as that sounds to say aloud or even write in an email. It sounds silly,
but as long as I can remember, I feel as though I'm meant to do more in life. I just can't figure out what that more is.
I thought fashion was my passion, and while I do enjoy being successful at my job, I just
don't know that this is where I'm supposed to be.
I have so many ideas of what I could possibly do.
I've always wanted to write a novel or flip houses or start my own event planning business
or become an interior designer.
I find myself doom- doom scrolling my social media accounts
at night of all these creatives with this feeling like,
I can do this too, followed immediately by, but can I?
And so I end up doing nothing.
All my ideas seem like pipe dreams
or things that will take time away
from what's supposed to be my priority,
my family and providing for them.
I want to be great,
but maybe I should be happy with success,
the success and perfect life on paper I already have. Help me to feel less guilty about wanting
more. Haley C. Jen, do you want to take this one from the top? Sure, thanks. Haley, listen,
well, first of all, you totally do know what you want to do. So I think we can get caught in that
sort of like, I'm not sure, I'm confused, the reality is, you know, and you're scared, but the great news is like all
those things that you said are amazing. And so I think that you should just go for it and start to
plot out how you could do it and start looking more deeply into it and following people who
are doing it and maybe talk to some of them, take them out for coffee and
think of it as a real thing. You got one go as the you that is you on planet earth. And it's in our
nature to keep growing. Plants and trees, they just keep growing until they die. And that's us.
We're not meant to hit a certain level and then just coast along. We're supposed to keep blossoming and expanding.
And it's your birthright. That's your nature as a living creature on earth. So that guilt is really,
I understand that you feel it, but it doesn't honestly make sense for your nature. And also,
I want to say like your kids, what a great role model you're going to be when you allow yourself
to just keep blossoming and keep changing into who you're becoming. I mean, that's a really,
really great role model for your kids. Yeah. I mean, my sister started her own
ear piercing company and she was working for another company at one point. And then I guess
something happened where they weren't going to be, cause she's a registered nurse. So they were
only using real nurses. And then they kind of started hiring other people. And my sister was like, I don't know
about this. I wanted it to be like a special, you know, nurses are coming and doing your piercings.
And I was like, well, start your own company. And she's like, it's just such a headache. What am I
going to do? Cut to she started her own company. She is the happiest, most productive she's ever
been. She has piercings every day. She's like eight to 10. She goes to parties and pierces like 10 girls at a time. She's so fulfilled. She finally got, she got a business
license. She did all this shit that she thought she didn't want to have to deal with. And she is
empowered. She is living her like best life because she has created her own source of income.
It's meaningful. It's purposeful. And she loves it. She loves meeting new people. She loves going
to their houses. She loves going to their houses.
She loves giving their little certificate of bravery for the little two-year-olds that
get their ears pierced.
Well, their mothers that get their ears pierced.
But whatever.
Her whole vibe has changed.
So you're only going to increase your magneticism by following your dreams.
Your family's going to appreciate you more.
You're set up in a success already.
You've got a great husband.
You've got great kids.
There is no barrier for you. You have all of this opportunity, and it's only this voice in
your head that's telling you you can't do it. So tell that voice that you're a fucking queen.
Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think too, I agree with Jen. I think in your heart,
you actually know what it is, but throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks. Try a few different things. See what you actually like. This makes me think of,
I just started following this woman on Instagram. She's like in her 70s. She is basically just like
an internet grandma who's adorable and says wonderful, positive, beautiful things and,
you know, calls her followers, my my darlings and just encourages you.
And it is the most lovely, wonderful thing to wake up to in the morning. But she talks about,
for years, I thought I could do this social media thing. And so many people were like,
no, it's really tough. You can't really do it. It's tough. It's hard. You won't get any followers,
da, da, da. But so one day
she just woke up and was like, I'm going to start doing this. And now she's got this massive
following and this beautiful cohort of people who are just like positive and lovely and just waking
up one morning and be like, what if I do? What if I do this? You know? Yeah. And just take steps in
the direction. If you choose interior design, there shouldn't be a limit to what you want to do,
right? So if you pick one thing to start with so that it's not overwhelming, like say you do
go down the interior design route, you know, just start making steps in that direction.
Start an Instagram page.
Start talking to people who you might help.
Start taking pictures of things that you find to be beautiful and things that you would
like to replicate, you know, and design themes and homes.
There are steps you can take in each
direction for all of the things that you mentioned. Just pick one and start there. And if after a few
months you're like, wait, this doesn't feel right, then you know that it's not right and you move on
to the next thing. But I bet you it will be right. It's just a matter of taking that first step and
then everything kind of comes together because you have to show the universe, the energy, the world
that you are motivated enough to make some differences. And then everything kind of comes together knowing that your energy has shifted. Because right now
you're in a state of, I don't know, it's a little ambivalent. It's a little just not active. And in
order to create that kind of surge and inspiration, you got to get moving. And then it will all come
together in that way. You know, like you got to say, okay, this is what I want.
This is the direction I'm moving in. And things will start to open for you and doors will start to open. You'll be like, oh, okay. All it takes is like a shift in intention.
Agreed.
Totally.
Great. Well, Lisette says.
Oh, I knew a Lisette in high school. Lisette. That's the only, isn't that a character in,
whatchamacallit? Yes. Les Mis. Isn't Lisette one of the characters? Cosette. That's Colette. That's the only – isn't that a character in – whatchamacallit? Yes. Les Mis. Isn't Lizette one of the characters?
Oh, Cosette.
Oh, that's Colette.
Cosette.
Cosette. Oh, shit. I knew it was an et.
Gillette.
Something in between those two. But Lizette says – and I think it was cute. She was going by Liz and she's like, no, Lizette is my real name. That's what I want to go by. So I was like, great. Yes. She says, Dear Chelsea,
my name's Lizette and I have a problem that may seem simple, but is honestly complex.
One of my deep core beliefs is that I am unlovable. Because of this, I struggle so much
with being able to accept love from others. My brain is also constantly looking for evidence
to prove this belief right. I've found more evidence to
prove me right than wrong, therefore I stay in this mindset. I'm 26 and I have struggled with
mental health issues for over a decade now. I go to therapy, I have a good support system,
I take my medication, and I have a wonderful boyfriend. Despite all this, I still hate myself
and I feel as though everyone is all in on the fact that I'm unlovable, worthless, and very ugly.
I tell my therapist about this, and all she says is, that's not true, you're lovable.
Like, okay, that doesn't really help in dismantling my core beliefs.
I want to be happy with myself and be a light for others.
I don't know what to do to achieve this.
Because I believe this about myself, I reject the love and affection my boyfriend gives me, which isn't fair to him.
I want to be loved so badly, but I believe I'm unworthy of it.
I feel as though I have to keep this mindset because I want people to know I'm also in on the joke.
You think I'm ugly?
That's fine because I already know I am, so nice try.
I would appreciate any advice I can use to not only accept love from others,
but also start to find the love within and feel that I'm worthy of it. Lizette. Oh, hi, Lizette. Hi. First of all, please,
we need to talk to you. This is an emergency situation. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Okay. You're
never allowed to talk about yourself being ugly again. Okay. First of all, you're adorable. And
but that's not even the point. No one is ugly. You have such
a negative conversation going on with yourself. And when you're looking for negative stuff,
you're going to find it. When you're looking for positive stuff, you're also going to find it.
So it's a choice between looking for the negative or looking for all the things that make you
lovable. Instead of saying you're not lovable, what are the things that make you lovable?
You tell me right now. I think I'm good at my job.
Yeah.
I think I am very personable.
I'm very talkative.
I think those are things that invite people in.
Yeah, great.
Yeah.
Those are great things.
Those are great qualities.
You're adorable.
Look at you.
You're laughing.
You're giggly.
You have a nice disposition.
You're letting your thoughts
take you to a place that you don't even need to visit. You could be living your best life on this
planet right now, but you're choosing to hear a different story. You have a boyfriend that loves
you and you need to accept that love. You have to doubly accept it now because you have an assignment
from us, okay? You have to overcorrect what you are doing. So every morning you have to
get up and list 10 things about yourself that make you lovable, that you know to be true about
yourself and why you are lovable. Every single morning you're going to start doing that.
And it can be the same things. It can be different things, whatever. Just get in the habit of that.
And every time you're thinking about a negative thought, I want you to get in the habit of
flipping that thought because whatever your negative thought is, there's an opposite thought, right? If you're fearful,
there's love. If you're scared, there's confidence. You know what I mean? You choose.
Think about whatever the opposite feeling of the word that you're feeling about yourself is,
choose that word and think about all of the things that relate to you with that word.
Love, courage, strength, confidence.
Those are the things that you need to instill
in yourself moving forward.
You're a fucking badass.
Nobody ever told you you were unlovable.
You told yourself that.
And you can't be trusted at this point
because you've told yourself a lot of negative things.
So we have to completely reverse engineer you.
Well, and I think that's a really good point, Chelsea.
You know, we think that every thought that pops into our brains is the truth.
But the truth is, it's not.
Or is someone else's about us.
It's not their thoughts.
We all have this like little voice in our head.
You're choosing to let that run you instead of choosing you running you.
You know what I mean?
We all have that little devil's whatever it is,
you know, like a little devil on our shoulder saying, you're not good enough. You're not good
enough. You're not smart enough. You're not pretty enough. You're not this enough. Yes,
you are. Like that is not the voice that we are listening to. And in order to like make your life
the fullest and reach your potential and your purpose, you're a teacher that already says
something great about you. You know what I mean? You're devoting your life to helping little people in the world
or younger people in the world. I don't know what age you teach, but you're already doing
so many things. These are of value. That's valuable. You are of value and you have a
purpose. And the sooner you lean into it, the sooner your whole world is going to open up and
these thoughts are going to start to diminish. And the good news is too, our brains are plastic. They are extensively changeable.
When you hear that voice, if it's like, oh my God, I'm so ugly, look at yourself in the mirror.
And even if it sounds fake as hell, just be like, oh my God, I look beautiful today. Oh my God,
I look incredible. So I read Jen is our guest who's with us today.
And I had read her book, you're a badass around the same time that I started watching a lot of
YouTube videos. Yes, this is who this is who we have. Okay, I was like, her name sounds familiar.
Okay, no, I know why. Okay. And Trixie Mattel, who's a drag queen also was like somebody I was
watching love her. And Trixie is always like, I'm an icon.
I'm a legend.
I look gorgeous.
And it says it so much in this way that's like funny and cute.
It's like it's so much more fun than the self-deprecating like, well, no, you know, I'm already a failure or I'm, you know, I already know I'm ugly.
No, no more of that.
No more of that.
Jen, what do you think about what do you think about this situation?
I mean, awesome, you guys.
And also see what you can get away with. Jen, what do you think about, what do you think about that? Yeah. I mean, awesome. You guys. And, and,
and also see what you can get away with. Like, I,
I love taking this level of levity and just like getting out of your trauma
and being like, I'm so ugly. I'm such a loser.
And just,
I just want to see if I can get two guys to look at me on the street.
I just want to see if I can get these spandex silver pants and rock on it.
Like make it more fun, bring silver pants and rock on it. Make it more fun. Bring
some more fun back into it. And also remember, nobody knows what the fuck they're doing. We're
all, I mean, we all have doubts and fears and insecurities and everybody, nobody has it all
going on anyway. So don't expect yourself to be at the top of your game all of the time. And when
you're not feeling at the top of your game, it's a moment in time.
It's not your identity.
It's just you're just having a little hiccup.
And there are lessons to be learned in that hiccup.
So look for the lessons when you're feeling that way.
Don't buy into them so much.
And also look at yourself through the eyes of your little students.
How much do they love you and see who you really are?
Come on now.
Like what is your fan club like?
Right?
Right?
So seriously, next time you go down that rabbit hole of thinking you suck, look at it through
your most adoring student's eyes and think about what that person would say about what
you're thinking.
And I like what Catherine said too about like, just start saying it out loud.
Being like, look at me.
I'm beautiful.
Look at me.
I'm beautiful. Look at me. I'm beautiful.
Look at me.
I'm beautiful.
Even if it's a joke to yourself, like it's good to start saying these things to yourself,
you know, and not taking it so seriously because you, first of all, you are beautiful inside
and out.
So like, where are you getting this from?
It's just so silly.
So yeah, you just have to really focus on be really paying attention to your thoughts
and be really paying attention and go, nope, that's not what I'm going to think today.
What's the opposite of that emotion? I'm going to be confident about this. I'm not going to
be insecure. I'm going to act confidently right here. And before you know it, acting confidently
will make you confident. Yeah, it will become automatic. There's a kind of outdated thing that we women do
too, which is like, if I talk that way about myself, I'm conceited or what, get rid of that.
That is old fashioned. That never matters. We are allowed to talk about ourselves as if we are
valuable and beautiful and lovable. And that's not going to come across in a way that makes you seem
that way. So start telling yourself that because it will, like Chelsea said, become automatic.
And now say, I'm a queen three times in a row.
Okay. I'm a queen. I'm a queen. I'm a queen. There you go.
There we go. Yes. There we go.
You even got the mannerisms down. Go, girl.
Yeah. I love it. Thank you so much for calling in Lizette.
And now you have something to listen back to next time you need a reminder.
Yes.
Thank you.
I appreciate all three of you so much.
Especially you Chelsea.
I literally haven't found you since I was 11.
So thank you.
Oh,
you're welcome,
honey.
You're so welcome.
Thank you.
Bye.
Okay.
Bye.
What a total cutie. She adorable i i know my first conversation she
was like sweating at the gym and she still looked cute i was like come on now come on we gotta fix
this outfit she's got it going on i know well let's take a quick break and we will be back to
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do you have any advice you'd like from Chelsea?
So much.
God, but I whittled it down.
I would love some tips on writing stand-up and writing good talks.
Like, because, you know, writing books is one thing, but speaking is different.
I have a whole bunch of speaking engagements coming up.
And like, how do you do it?
Do you eat an edible and have all your friends over?
Or do you have a team to do it yourself and then put on a talent show? Like what's your methodology?
I mean, I usually write, you know, for standup and like doing, I mean, sometimes I have writers help me if I'm doing an event, but for standup, it's pretty much me. I'm not really, you know,
every once in a while I'll have someone come out and see if they have like any punchlines for me.
But I think when you infuse, you know, humor into like real educative kind of topics like you're
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Oh, thank you so much. I just want to say I am also child free and the stuff you are doing is
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