Dear Hank & John - 114: Confused About Batman

Episode Date: November 6, 2017

Over the last month, Hank and John have been on the road going to cities all across America. Every stop, they did a short episode of Dear Hank and John, and some of those got recorded. Then Hank edite...d some of the best of those moments into this podcast. How do I promote my guinea pig's Instagram? Is it cold in space? When did you first feel successful? And Many Other Questions Answered!​ Email us: hankandjohn@gmail.com patreon.com/dearhankandjohn

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Starting point is 00:00:38 I am glad to be sleeping in the same bed every night and back together with my family. So Hank, you know what I've been doing the last few days? I've been clearing honey suckle from my backyard. Honey suckle is an invasive bush and I have been clearing it with an axe and a machete. And it feels great. Hank, the good news is there is so much honey suckle
Starting point is 00:01:03 in Central Indiana. I might become the like Johnny Apple seed of destroying honey suckle. Alright, the reverse. Johnny honey suckle. Johnny honey suckle, that's what they're gonna call me. This may be what I devote my life to because I have found the last four or five days to be so magnificently clarifying. I have no desire to do anything other than clear honey circle from the world.
Starting point is 00:01:30 You may be unsurprised to hear that I have been in a lot of meetings over the last four days, instead of doing what you're doing, talking to people about all the things that I missed while I was at a town and doing a bunch of SciShow videos and doing an eons shoot today and dear Higajan today at the Dard Foundation to Decrease World's Suck Board meeting this morning, talking about the Proud and Pharossum and how that's gonna go. We'll talk about pizza-miss and talk about DFTPA, talk about VidCon, talk about PodCon, all the things. I feel like if I had a honey-suckle problem in my yard,
Starting point is 00:02:07 it would be the worst honey-suckle problem any yard has ever had. Well, good news, Hank. You have a brother who is more than happy to fly to Mizzoula and take care of that honey-suckle. I won't go to any of those meetings that all sounds horrible. I am so glad, when I hear you say that, I'm just so glad that you demoted me. I'm so glad to be reporting to you
Starting point is 00:02:26 and no longer to be co-boss with you. As my boss, by the way, I need to ask for another week off so I can clear some more honey suckle. You know, you take all the time you need, John. That's what I needed to hear and also what I required to hear. Otherwise, I would have quit. Gah!
Starting point is 00:02:48 Hank, let's answer some questions from our listeners. By the way, I enjoyed doing this on the phone with you. It real life is fun, it's a little intense, though. Especially when there's 1200 people watching. It's not so much not having you in the room, it's not having a whole of them. That's so true. Hank, this first question comes from Alice, who writes, Dear John and Hank, my brother-in-law and I have been puzzling over a question for a while now,
Starting point is 00:03:13 and I would be very grateful if you could give us an answer. What is the smallest part of the body you can be a doctor in? Tempacydex rerum. Alice. That's a good thing. What's the largest part of the body you can be a doctor in? Let's start there. in Tempacidax Rirum Alice. That's a good thing. What's the largest part of the body you can be a doctor in? Let's start there. Well, the way the question was phrased made me think about the movie Inner Space, where people shrunk down
Starting point is 00:03:36 into being tiny people so they could be a doctor inside of someone's body. What's the smallest doctor you can be in a body part would be interspace? That's a separate question. The answer to that is interspace. I think the biggest part of the body you can be a doctor and has to be dermatology, right?
Starting point is 00:03:52 Like isn't the skin the largest human organ? Yeah, well, I probably, I don't know, there's also like bones, there's a lot of bones, but I think, because like bones don't really count as an organ, but you can be like a bone doctor. You can also just be a doctor of like everything, like just a general practitioner, just a doctor of the whole body theoretically.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And then when you have like a more specific problem, they're like, oh, go see my friend, Jeremiah, he just looks at toes. Right. And, or I would also argue that perhaps the largest part of the body you can be a doctor in is psychiatry because of course like, you know, the mind contains infinite vastnesses. Right. I might be.
Starting point is 00:04:34 That might have been too much. No, that's very good. That's good. No, I'm there with you, John. Okay. The smallest part of a body you can be a doctor in. And bear in mind that Hank and I are both empties before all of this YouTube stuff we
Starting point is 00:04:47 Pursued our medical degrees we passed our boards and everything and then we just gave it all up to Read teleprompters The smallest part of the body you can be a doctor and I believe has to be a gland right like maybe the pituitary gland Yeah, how big is the pituitary? I believe it is the size of a walnut. Pfft. Pituatory gland size of space. Fish is the first autocomplete.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Well, that is incorrect. It is an indecrugland about the size of a pea that weighs 0.5 grams in humans. That's very small. I bet you can be a doctor of the pituitary gland. Do you think it can be like a doctor of just pores? Like, I'm a doctor of pores. Pores are very small.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Well, but you have to be a doctor of one individual pore, which would be weird. Like, I'm the doctor of the pore, right? Like, the one that you always get a zit on, right at the edge of your nostril. I'm the doctor of that pore. Please, I need that doctor. It's always right in like the crease, in the crease between my nose, where my nose meets my face part,
Starting point is 00:05:54 which is weird, because you know the party fifth, but you know what I mean. And it's like right in there, and I don't know why it's like extra irritating there. To have that. I know what you mean mostly, because I have noticed over the years that you often get
Starting point is 00:06:06 Estonishingly huge zits right there where you're talking about. Thank you so much I'm glad at least to know that you're looking at my face a lot. So that's nice. You're welcome Let's include that entire pause Nick So people will be like wait wait, is my podcast stopped working? It's your turn, Hank, you answered ask a question. I just don't think, I feel like there must be something small that you could be a doctor in. No, it's the pituitary gland, it's the size of a pea. I'm a lot of frustrated, and in any case,
Starting point is 00:06:42 I'm frustrated that you got to the right answer too fast. The next news is that means we can answer more questions. If you don't ask one, I will. This next question, it comes from JoJo, who asks, dear Hank and John, why do we rub our eyes when we are tired? Wake me up before you JoJo. Oh, that's a great name specific sign off.
Starting point is 00:07:02 It's also a question specific sign off because they need us to wake them up because they're tired. So I mean that might be the greatest sign off in the history of Dear Hank and John, which is really saying something, Hank, why do we rub our eyes when we're tired? Do you know? Here's what I will say, that my view on this has changed dramatically since having a child because one of the first signals of a state that my baby was in, like there was crying,
Starting point is 00:07:29 and I knew that that was like the baby was in a bad state, and one of the first ones that wasn't crying was eye-rubbing. And I was like, oh, you're tired, you're rubbing your eyes, and yawning because you're tired. And like, what a useful signal. Thank you very much for letting me know. I had always assumed that that was like a thing that we learned from cartoons.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I was like, oh, you rub your eyes when you get tired. Like, how Tweety Birds fly around your head when you get hit by a two by four? No, this is a thing that is ingrained in humans and I had no idea until I had a baby. For the record, I think Tweety Birds do kind of fly around your head when you could hit by a two by four, but I read about this. I actually did some research and like some people.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Oh, well, I bet your research is going to be wrong. So I'll go ahead. Oh, it's going to be really good, Hank, because it comes from Susan Blackmore Psychology Professor. So there you go. Tired eyes get dry and rubbing stimulates the lacrimal glands to produce more fluid. That's it, that's the reason.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Do you think the tired your eyes get dry and you press them because it makes a gland release fluid? Do you think that there's any doctors of the lacrimal gland? Because I bet the lacrimal gland? I bet the lacrimal gland is smaller than the pituitary gland. The lacrimal gland are paired exocrine glands, one for each eye, that are about the size of an almond.
Starting point is 00:09:01 That's bigger than a pig. I'm wrong. I'm wrong. They're shaped like an almond. They're smaller than your head. That's bigger than it. No, I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I'm wrong. They're shaped like an almond, they're smaller than an almond. Yeah, I was wondering how I had a whole almond in there. There's not a lot of space in your face. No, you don't. You don't. I bet I bet there's somebody who just studies
Starting point is 00:09:17 the lacrimal gland, like Dr. Ricardo A.M. He's still a doctor. Like you don't know, you've got a lacrimal gland problem. Let me send you the lacrimal gland expert. You just go to an eye doctor or a eye, I don't know, you've got a lacrimal gland problem. Let me send you the lacrimal gland expert. You just go to an eye doctor or a, I don't know. This is, I don't know. Is this a good bit? I might be stupid.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I, yeah, in general, I feel like it's because there's like itchiness and irritation and that might be because of the dryness, it might be because you just like, yeah, it would probably become because of the dryness. And you're just sort of like scratching an itch when you rub your eyes because when you get tired, your eyes get itchy. There you go.
Starting point is 00:09:49 All right, we answered the question. That happens to babies, and it's so cute. It is really cute. And his babies don't know how cliched they look when they're doing it. No, right, yeah. And that's part of what makes it so cute. I find whenever little kids do things that are super cliche, but they're unaware of the larger narrative arcs
Starting point is 00:10:08 of the social order, I find it completely adorable. And then once they learn that this is the thing I'm supposed to do, it's like, oh my god, stop. Yeah, no, totally. That's called adolescence. This next question comes from Alice, who writes, dear John and Hank, I'm a probably, oh by the way, I'm only answering questions from Alice's today adolescence. This next question comes from Alice who writes, dear John and Hank, I'm a pride, oh by the way, I'm only answering questions from Alice's today, Hank.
Starting point is 00:10:29 No, I don't know if you noticed that. It's my new policy. Well, we've got enough questions in the archive now that we could probably actually do an episode where we only answer questions from one person's name. I'll do Alice's and also Henry's. Those are the only two names I'll do in here and out.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Dear John and Hank, I'm a primary care provider working in Canada. Oh, you should talk to the other Alice. She had a question. You might know the answer too. And I see so many new babies for their first visits and subsequent visits. Most of these visits include vaccinations against an assortment of diseases. I've had some difficulty with some parents who don't want to vaccinate their children for various reasons.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I haven't yet had any success in convincing any of them that vaccinating is the way to go, even after telling them all of the data. I was wondering if you have any advice on how to communicate with these kinds of people, people who are stuck in their own thought processes and struggle to engage in other thought processes, not in Wonderland, Alice. Here's the thing, Alice. I don't. Neither do I, Alice.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I did make a video on SciShow called The Science of Anti-Vaccination, which is one of my favorite SciShow's we've ever done that goes into the psychology of how people get stuck in those thought processes and how, and like the biases that lead us to make decisions that are not ultimately in the best interests of, you know, the people that we love the most in the world and also the entire social order. And that's a really, like, this is a really hard one and it's worrying and I don't, like, what we find over and over again is kind of engaging people with these ideas sets them more It like it puts them on the defensive and they start to tie it to their identity and once it's part of their identity Fighting against it is like is like literally fighting with them. It's a battle that they are fighting to preserve themselves. And that's
Starting point is 00:12:27 no good. So there was this study done recently that took a group of people who believed that tax cuts lead to higher overall federal revenue. This is a common misconception that because tax cuts spur growth, that growth will lead to more economic production, which will be taxable, and then the tax revenue will go up even though the tax rates have gone down. It's a compelling idea, unfortunately, it's just not true. Well, both. But if we could take the tax rate all the way down to zero, the government will have infinite
Starting point is 00:12:57 money. Well, I mean, that is one of the ways of pointing out that it's not true. Another way is by looking at all of the tax cuts in American history. So we've seen again and again in US history that when we cut tax rates, it does lead to increased economic activity, people debate how much, but it does, which is taxable, but nonetheless, overall federal tax revenue goes down. And so that's a really consistent story
Starting point is 00:13:26 in the history of taxation in the US. And in this study, they showed people this documentation, and then at the end of the study, people on average were more convinced than they had been before that lowering taxes leads to more overall government revenue. And I do not know what to do about this problem. I don't think, by the way, it is a problem unique to people who have that particular misconception.
Starting point is 00:13:54 There are probably a lot of misconceptions that I have that I also struggle to let go of in the face of evidence. And I don't know how to solve this problem, Alice. I think it is a big problem. That's why I wanted to read your question. And I have no solutions. Yeah, the other thing that I, it's almost as soon as it becomes a point
Starting point is 00:14:19 on which you can have an opinion, people will become divided on it. And that is a thing, I know that we've been talking about this some, on tour and on vlog brothers, that is part of the thing that worries me about the call to always have an opinion on everything that the social internet, I think,
Starting point is 00:14:37 in particular makes us feel, because as soon as we sort of like establish an opinion, it becomes part of our identity and it becomes a point of division. And a thing that used to be just vaccines, fewer babies die, these things are good, becomes something that is a sudden political piece of contention that devalues our opinion of the expertise of doctors, but also phrase the fabric of like not just like the social order, but like the tools that we use to prevent us from getting sick. And we do now see a lot more people, you know, children getting whooping cough and measles
Starting point is 00:15:23 and all of these diseases that we just shouldn't have to deal with because we have ways of preventing them. Slightly off topic, Hank. Did you know that I had whooping cough? No, really? Yeah, when I was in college. Ha, no, yeah, I do remember that now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I got, I did get vaccinated for it, but the vaccine sometimes wears off, and there was a very small outbreak of whooping cough at my tiny little college. I think it was like six people, and I was one of the six, and I can tell you whooping cough blows. I mean, it's terrible. I would cough until I threw up almost every day for like a month and a half. And I would be like, this is so stupid. And I also, I had a hundred degree fever for like a month and a half. I was like, this is the stupidest disease I have ever had.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And I've had some stupid diseases over the years. So anyway, yeah, I'm opposed to whooping cough. I just wanted to put that out there. One of John's opinions that he's holding on to. I'm holding onto that opinion. I am opposed to whooping to. I'm holding on to that opinion. I am opposed to whooping cough. I think it is a dumb disease, and I think it should be eliminated from humans. Hard stop.
Starting point is 00:16:32 This next question comes from NJ, who asks, Dear Hank and John, Hank, where do you find your Mars news? How can I find out more about Mars? What websites, books, or magazines should I read? I love your podcast, but mostly the Mars News. Where's Sunblock and Jay? Well, thanks for your question, and Jay, you'll love my new podcast is just all Mars News.
Starting point is 00:16:53 No. I find my Mars News in the same place as that you find regular news. I got a new phone recently, and it's disturbingly good at knowing what my interests are. So for example, just because my brother is John Green, it's always showing me the scores of the AFC Wimbledon games. And there's always somewhere on that front page. Sometimes there's stories about shirts because I run a merchandise company. So it knows that I'm into shirts. So recently I started getting news articles about shirt companies or shirt science.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Or soon it's going to be reporting to you, what are the cotton prices for today? I don't like, which would be great. I'd be into that. But yeah, it's also always throwing Mars news at me. So since I got this phone, if I've sort of had an easier time finding the Mars news, it just sort of comes to me when I'm tired of looking at Twitter
Starting point is 00:17:53 and I swipe to the left and suddenly I'm confronted with, you know, bummers, some bummers, but also usually some Mars news. But yeah, there's a few great science websites out there. Universe today is one that I go to a lot. A scientific American has always been my favorite science publication. And so I will sometimes go to a scientific American and search for Mars and see if they've got anything for me, but also just go to Google News and search Mars and then get rid of all
Starting point is 00:18:21 the stories about Bruno Mars and Mars Corporation. And you're left with stories about Mars. Hank, you're disturbingly intelligent phone reminded me of something, which is that there is a pretty widespread conspiracy theory that maybe isn't a conspiracy theory about how our phones are listening to us even when we are not aware of the fact that they're listening to us. And we think of them as being off.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And that maybe it's using stuff that we say to target our advertising. So I just want to take this opportunity to say to everyone who's listening to Dear Hank and John, I am really struggling with the question of whether tide detergent is worth it. Is it really different from generic brands? Are there other forms of laundry detergent like all or cheer that might be better for my family than tide detergent? I'm just going to see if anything happens as a result of that. Everybody just play that part of the podcast out loud so that your phone is hearing John
Starting point is 00:19:29 talk and report back to us if you get a lot of attention. Alexa slash Facebook slash Google slash Twitter slash some company that you don't even know exists and that you didn't put on your phone but it's still there, thinks of that. I'm just thinking about whether or not I'm gonna start using a different detergent. I think it's time for me to consider changing my detergent to a different laundry detergent. There.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I think we've got it Hank. I mean, if it can be done, we did it. It's like that time that I accidentally on purpose ordered many copies of the fault nurse stars by saying on the podcast, Hey Alexa, I'm not going to say the rest of it. Because people got so actually unjustifiably mad at me. It's not you're using your power for bad, John. Alright, Hank, this next question comes from Libby, who asks, dear John and Hank, peeing in the shower, fine?
Starting point is 00:20:28 Thank you, Libby. I mean, it's your shower. Well, or is it? Well, if it isn't, it's not fine. Don't pee on anyone else's anything, except toilet water. Hank, this is one of many questions I don't have to look at in my own personal life
Starting point is 00:20:46 because of baths. Thank God for baths, which have solved so many problems for me, including the problem of whether it's okay to pee in the shower, because one thing is for certain, it's not okay to pee in the bath. I mean, but that is a problem then, because you can't pee while you're bathing. The way the shower people can.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Yeah, it's a terrible problem. I mean, you act like my bathtub and my toilet are in different zip codes, when in fact they are perhaps four feet from each other. So I'm not a shower peer, but I do like when I get into the shower, I will often be like, oh, now I have to pee. And I think that this is kind of why there's so much shower peeing that happens because like as soon as you like get all nice and warm Your stincter's relax and it's like, hey, you know what I could do right now. I can really go for a whiz
Starting point is 00:21:38 And so yeah, and also like it's all going to the same place like you don't have to worry about that It's there is something about when people bring up peeing that makes you need to pee. In fact, I know because it's happening to me right now. I was fine 45 seconds ago, and now I'm like, I don't know if I can make it to the end of the pod without peeing. So we've inserted a bit of a ticking time bomb
Starting point is 00:22:03 into the pod dance because this week in Ryan's is going to be a real rushed. It's going to be very short this week because and this week's Ryan is going to be like Niagara Falls. It's a terrible idea. Oh goodness. Oh goodness. This week's Ryan is the Atacama Desert.
Starting point is 00:22:23 It's everything is fine. There's no fault at all. Big Brian is the adicama desert. It's everything is fine. There's no fault at all. Today's podcast is brought to you by needing to pee, needing to pee, an ongoing issue since 45 seconds ago. This podcast is also brought to you by laundry detergent. Ha ha WoopingCoff, a great way to cough and vomit. And this podcast, finally brought to you by
Starting point is 00:22:51 your Lackrommelglands. Your Lackrommelglands, they are the shape, not the size of an almond. And that's how I actually don't know how big they are. I couldn't really figure that out from the Wikipedia page. We also have an actual sponsor today, Hank, Storyblocks. Storyblocks, so John, I make videos for a living. I don't know if you know that about me and also you.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I do. I do. And there has been since the beginning of us doing that, some various ways to get media to include legally in those videos, and it has always been very either very hard or very expensive, and often that leads us to doing things that are maybe a little bit like shouldn't be doing them, like taking pictures that maybe we shouldn't be using, and it is so wonderful to now have a story block subscription, which I learned about from a different podcast, and have been able to include, you know, for a price that I can afford and that isn't a
Starting point is 00:23:50 big deal for me, include great video, great audio, great pictures in my videos. And, you know, I like, I've been doing this for years now using story blocks and it's a wonderful service that works really well and much better than the services I was using before. Yeah, you can get an ongoing membership to Storyblocks, which is what Hank and I do, but you can, they also have a library of paid clips where you can like sort of pay per, per thing. Per-play. Per-play, or per-image, and it works really well.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And as Hank said, it solves a huge problem in the world of online media, which is that we all want to be making sure that we're using other people's content appropriately and that they're being compensated for it properly and appropriately. And that has been very difficult for the first many years of internet creation. And Storyblocks really is a wonderful solution to this problem.
Starting point is 00:24:43 You go to storyblocks.com slash deer hank and John to learn more about storyblocks and also you can sign up through there. And the thing I use, I pay $149 per year for storyblocks and that gives me access to like 400,000 images, 150,000 videos, 100,000 audio clips. Those things are in like the things there are increasing 100,000 images, 150,000 videos, 100,000 audio clips.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Those things are in, like, the things there are increasing, like the number of things are always going up. And that's like, it's nice to know it as a yearly price, instead of as a monthly price, because I am gonna use it all the time. And I like to just be able to sort of jump over there and grab stuff when I make a video. It's really nice to be able to talk about a product
Starting point is 00:25:25 that I use personally, and that makes my content better, and makes my life easier. Yeah, and also we have to say, makes Crash Course and SciShow and other stuff that we do better as well. By offering this huge content library, it's made things a lot easier for us in all of our educational content.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Making, so we are grateful to Storyblocks for sponsoring this podcast, but also for creating a service that we really use in like. Yeah, and the nice thing is the people who are making those, like vectorized images, or taking the photographs or the video. The people who are doing that are getting paid. So those creators are also getting supported through story blocks. It's a good marketplace that connects creators together to help make better content exist in the world. Thank you, story blocks. All right, let's get to another question from our listeners.
Starting point is 00:26:15 This one comes from Bailey who writes, Dear John and Hank, I've recently met a guy and we've gone on a few dates. Because I am in high school, he asked me to his homecoming dance and I accepted expecting a night of food and fun. Like I said, yes, because I thought there would be food. And if there's not gonna be food, I'm going to reset my yes.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I mean, that's a great that's a great reason to say yes to a homecoming dance. Like I've been told that there will be light snacks and punch and I'm coming down. It's like, I've been told that there will be light snacks and punch, and I'm in. When I went to get ready with some of his friends, one of them introduced me to her parents as his girlfriend. This took me a back because I did not realize that I was already in a relationship with this guy because we'd never spoken about it. Now I've heard that he has told people we are dating
Starting point is 00:27:03 and I don't know how I feel about the guy. So what should I do? I am very busy with school and work and the college boss. Oh my gosh. I'm unsure if I'm able to have a relationship right now. Any dubious advice is appreciated. High school drama and horse radish. Bailey. I mean, Bailey, so I'm just gonna, like, first of all, the words have various meanings, but I am gonna take you back to the first sentence of your email where you said, I recently met a guy and we've gone on a few dates. You are dating him. Well, you've gone on a few dates with him.
Starting point is 00:27:33 That's not exactly the same thing as being someone for a girlfriend. No, but I will say that you are dating. Like, that's what's happening. But if Bailey doesn't feel comfortable being called this guy's girlfriend, that's probably like the issue, because in all likelihood, that means that this person did not say, hey, are you my girlfriend or do you want to be my girlfriend or should we like identify
Starting point is 00:27:55 this relationship as a girlfriend boyfriend thing? And then instead just started telling his pals, this is my girlfriend, I kinda, I see Bailey's point. Like, I feel like, this Bailey, this is probably a moment to take a step back and say, just from your email, you may not be that psyched about this relationship. It seems like you're mostly in it for the food and fun. Which is great, by the way.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I think that is a pretty good reason when you're in high school and also in adulthood to go on dates. Frankly, when Sarah and I go on dates, it's mostly for the food and fun. Hahaha. Bailey, I will say that like I, I don't know when you like are supposed to have the talk
Starting point is 00:28:39 and figure out what the relationship is. Like is that a thing that happens? Because for me, it was always like, hey, by the way, I am so into you and I want this to be forever and then girls running away from me. Oh, no, for me, I always would have that talk. Or I felt like that talk was,
Starting point is 00:29:00 it should be like an ongoing thing. I don't know. I, listen Hank, I'm not an expert in any of this, but certainly like I do remember when Sarah and I admittedly we were not in high school. We did not go to the homecoming dance together or anything. But I do remember when I said to Sarah like, hey, are we gonna be like like a, like an item? Like are we gonna be, whatever, however you wanna phrase it,
Starting point is 00:29:24 are we gonna be boyfriend, girlfriend, are we gonna be, whatever, however you wanna phrase it, are we gonna be boyfriend, girlfriend, are we gonna be in an exclusive relationship, whatever the constructs that you wanna use around it, you need to have that conversation with the other person before you have it with your buds. Agreed, agreed. And I actually, I do remember being sort of new to this whole game and thinking I was someone's boyfriend,
Starting point is 00:29:43 when I was in fact just seeing them and and bringing it up and and them being like oh no no no no no no no no no Hank no and I was like oh okay well it's I mean yeah it's inherently uncomfortable and like these are these are difficult conversations to have, but I also think that's like part of what makes them so important. Agreed. This next question comes from Kyla who asks,
Starting point is 00:30:10 Dear Hank and John, late at night when I'm trying to sleep, all I can seem to do is come up with unrealistic fantasies that keep me up. I'll be laying in bed trying to sleep when all of a sudden I think about myself in a world that literally cannot exist. How does one turn off their imagination for long enough to sleep for eight hours? Extremely sleep deprived, Kaila. Wait, what's the world?
Starting point is 00:30:32 I don't know, I feel like. Why would that have been brought up by Kaila in this very short question that obviously had space to give us some information about these fantasy worlds that I'm not very curious about. Kyla, I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight worrying about what these fantasy worlds might or might not be. That's on you. I mean, your name is Kyla. You just made less sleep in the world, Kyla. It's it. I don't want to criticize our listeners. It sounds like. But come on. You could be at
Starting point is 00:31:00 ex-letails. Patagonistist in any number of these fantasy stories, if you just maybe write them down, so John, I do have sleep tips. I'm like, I've become informed on sleep tips because one, I make science videos for a living and two, people are always asking me how I sleep. One tip is that I have a medication that makes me sleepy. So that's, don't necessarily do that.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Get all sort of colitis and take that one. Two, it's all, like, it's really all about, like, structuring your day so that sleep happens. It starts at the same time, it ends at the same time, and it happens in a place that is devoted to sleep. And so you are not spending time in your bed doing things that aren't sleep And it happens in a place that is devoted to sleep. And so you are not spending time in your bed doing things that aren't sleep,
Starting point is 00:31:49 so that your mind knows that like this is the sleep place, not the place for fantasy imaginings. And if you are having those fantasy imaginings and it's not gonna happen, like leave the sleep place and go somewhere else until you feel sleepy. Kyla, I would talk to a doctor not Hank about this. This is literally advice that I was given by a doctor.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Well, sure, but not like Kyla's doctor. Okay. Each individual is different. I think that's good advice. I just think like if it's become an issue in your life, like don't turn to advice podcasts. And I do think that if it's something you're really concerned about it's probably time to talk to your doctor about it because while Hank's tips are great, nothing stands in for actual medical advice, quite like actual medical professionals.
Starting point is 00:32:42 John, do you ever feel like those times in your life when you couldn't get to sleep were actually like really useful and wonderful? When you got excited about an idea or we're creating a world or a character or something like that, you just lay in bed and you just can't stop working on a problem? Very occasionally, what would almost always happen,
Starting point is 00:33:06 or what does almost always happen in my experience, is that I finally am like, okay, I've got to get up and write this down because this stuff is great. This is fascinating. I've finally found my way through to a solution. And then I write it down and I'm like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:33:21 This makes no sense. It's almost like this was developed by a tired person Who wasn't thinking at all rationally? Yeah, it's almost it's almost if if it's almost as if this person was having a dream about solving a problem Not actually solving a problem on a few occasions because I always hear about writers who like come up with great solutions to problems in their books and dreams or else come up with great premises for new books and dreams. And so on a few occasions, I have woken up and thought it happened. It finally happened for me. And I write down the dream and I'm like, okay, here's how I'm going to solve a problem
Starting point is 00:33:59 in Turtles all the way down. There's a baseball game and they're in the dugout. It's the visitor's dugout and it's the seventh inningning and I keep writing and I'm like holy crap like how did I think how did I ever think that this was going to solve a problem when it's obvious that like this is all happening inside of a magical world where none of the rules of narrative or physics supply. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have, I have, I would say that I have had experiences a handful of times where I had too much coffee
Starting point is 00:34:38 at six o'clock at night and it was two in the morning and I still couldn't get to sleep and I came up with something pretty amazing. But in general, I think that it's just as likely to happen anytime that I'm not occupying myself with something like I tend to always do these days where I've always do, like I'm on the phone or I'm listening to a podcast or I'm reading a book or I'm like driving the car and listening to music
Starting point is 00:35:02 and or something. In those moments when I'm actually not occupied, there is a surprising number of times and it's just like, oh, well, now I'm thinking about this problem and that's helpful to just, you know, have time to just think. Oh, I feel like I never have time to just think anymore. And Hank, let me encourage you to explore the possibility
Starting point is 00:35:23 of clearing honey suckle out of your backyard. I've spent about 60 hours doing it so far. I'm gonna report back next week, but so far, what I've found is that when my brain has quiet time, mostly it wants to be quiet. I am expecting that at some point, my brain will be like,
Starting point is 00:35:43 I'd like to start having some thoughts again now, but right point my brain will be like, I'd like to start having some thoughts again now. But right now my brain's just like, shh, cut the any circle. Khaa! Get it out of the ground. Make sure that did you get the stump, make sure to get the stump. Um, that's good, John. Yeah, I don't think that...
Starting point is 00:36:04 I don't think that's the experience I would have. But I also don't have a bunch of honey suckled on my yard. Yeah, so the spoken like somebody who hasn't tried it yet, the other thing I've been doing is creating this brick path. I blazed a trail through my backyard, and then now I'm slowly bricking the path, one brick at a time. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:36:28 I'm using bricks from this abandoned building long ago, ruin from the early 20th century on our property. And just the act of doing that, Hank, oh my god. It's so much better. It's so much better than going to VidCon meetings. I Don't want to gloat, but I feel like I've found like a glitch in the matrix and At least for one week. This was the perfect solution. I don't think I could do it forever, but I intend to find out All right, those next questions from Natalie who asked your Hank and John I was recently listening to an NPR interview where the guest
Starting point is 00:37:06 explained that his high school experience and where the guest explained his high school experience and his life as an Episcopalian. I was thinking John Green and this guy would probably be really great friends. And then the host said it was John Green. Why do you sound so much different? It's crazy anyway, how the heck does NPR work? Are there local stations for counties?
Starting point is 00:37:31 Is there some headquarters? Congrats on the new book, guys. Yeah, well, so I was on fresh air that might have been the interview that you heard with Terry Gross, which was the most nervous I've ever been. Hank knows this because he was with me right before. Yeah, he was freaking out. First off, Natalie, I don't know why I sounded different in that interview that you heard,
Starting point is 00:37:52 but I listened to it as well, and I also thought that I sounded different. I was listening to my voice, and I was like, that's weird, and I don't know why. Maybe it was because I was so incredibly nervous about the prospect of speaking to Terry Gross, who's one of my like long time heroes. But it was cool. It was a very cool experience being on fresh air. By far, the best part was the very beginning when Terry Gross came on the line
Starting point is 00:38:17 and she said, are there two lines in your book that you got from our radio show. And I was like, yeah. And she was like, that's cool. And I was like, yeah, thanks for reading it. And she was like, yeah, I liked it. And that was the best part. Maybe the interview part was good. But like, her noticing the two fresh air moments in Turtles all the way down was pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I thought you were gonna say that the best moment for you was when Terry Griss called us the V-log brothers. Well, I didn't actually hear her say that. She recorded that intro later and it was pretty epic to be called the V-log brothers. Oh man, it's not her fault, you know. It's not her fault. It's my fault. It's my fault.
Starting point is 00:38:57 It's my fault for naming the YouTube channel a bad name. It's true. That's on us, Hank. Ultimately, that's on us. As for how NPR works, that's not really my area of expertise. In this particular case, I think I was in Nashville and I went to the Nashville NPR station and they had a little studio set aside for me for that hour and a half. And I listened to Terry Gross talk to me on my headphones. The same way I'm listening to Hank talk to me now, only it was kind of a much fancier version of the setup
Starting point is 00:39:28 that we currently have. I also don't know how NPR works. I'm much more familiar with PBS because we actually work with them, but NPR is, as far as I can tell, funded by mostly its listeners, according to every pledge drive. That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So don't into your local NPR station if you enjoy fresh air as much as I do. Okay, let's answer one more question before we get to the all important news from Mars and AFC Wimbledon. This question comes from Magdalene, who writes, Dear John and Hank, as someone who frequents the coffee shop across the street from my school, I've been presented with an issue that only grows over time. Having been diagnosed with anxiety means that I've trouble doing some ordinary tasks.
Starting point is 00:40:01 One of them being paying the cashier. I check and recheck that I have the right amount in just a few bills so I was not to hold up the line but this leaves me with multiple coins in change which over time have built up to an insurmountable amount. Should I continue paying with just bills? What if I hold up the people behind me by using the change? Please help! I don't know how I could possibly do a name-specific sign sign off Magdalen. I mean, obviously you have a name specific sign off. It's Mary comma Magdalen. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I'll allow it. This is not, I don't understand how paying with coins holds up the line, especially if you have time to get them sorted and ready to go. Because you know in advance Magdalene, how much of your coffee order is gonna cost, right? Like you probably order the same thing. You've done this before.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Yeah, tax has changed. Right, so you know it's gonna be $2.58. So what I would do, I totally sympathetic to your concern about holding up the line. It's something that I worry about too. But what I would do is just totally sympathetic to your concern about holding up the line. It's something that I worry about too. But what I would do is just get those eight quarters, five dimes, one nickel, and three inexplicable pennies out. Have them in your hand.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Try to organize them as much as you can by shape and size. Actually, you know what? Don't use the pennies, Magdalene. Just get 260. Just get eight quarters and six. Actually, you know what? Don't use the pennies, Magdalene. Just get 260. Just get eight quarters and six times and hand it over and say that's $2.60. I do not need change. Thank you. Well, and then you leave your tip of the tip jar, additionally. And if they give you the two cents, you can put that there too, which is what I do with every penny I ever receive. That's actually a better solution, Hank.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Over time, Magdalene, the way to get rid of your change is a dollar at a time, put it in the tip jar. Yeah, that is also a great way to do it. There's also places that will take your change and turn it into dollars for you. They're called banks. Don't use the CoinStar machine. That's a bracket. They take a big percentage and the bank will do it.
Starting point is 00:42:06 You just have to, by the way, everything, I do, so John, I have a secret, I have a secret embarrassing secret and people didn't get to hear my other embarrassing secret and they never will. So I wanna tell you this embarrassing secret because it's pretty embarrassing and I don't think anybody knows about it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:22 So CoinStar machines, they have this little tray that you dump all your change into. And it's got a slot, then there's little holes in it and in America, the hole is just smaller than a dime. So a dime can't fall through it, but other stuff can. So like that stuff doesn't end up in the machine. And one of my secret joys in life is to put my head
Starting point is 00:42:41 into a coin star machine and see what has fallen through the dime holes. And just come ahead in there. And I'm like, whoo. And I was like, even within 12 orders of magnitude of the most embarrassing thing about you. I agree. But it's something, right?
Starting point is 00:43:02 Just Hank Green sticking his head into the coin star machine because you got to get your head in there. You can't like see it from outside. You have to like get put and it's like a whole grocery store is around and I like, I can't help myself. I'm gonna put my head in the coin star machine now. I think it's fine. The I actually have a bigger concern than the coin star head issue, which is that
Starting point is 00:43:22 I think that you just referred to yourself in the third person, and that can never happen again. I was being the people around talking about me. Right, but that's also rather presumptuous. I just assumed it wouldn't be like, oh look, it's Hank Green with his head in the coin star machine. They would be like, oh, look at that random middle-aged dude with his head in the coin star machine. They would be like, oh, look at that random middle-aged dude
Starting point is 00:43:45 with his head in the coin star machine. Well, then I take my head out, and then there's like, one of the people is the crash course fan, and they're like, wow, okay, I thought that was just a random middle-aged dude with his head in the coin star machine, but it's that guy who taught me anatomy and physiology. It's said they're like, oh my gosh, that's John Green's brother. Oh!
Starting point is 00:44:03 They're like, oh my gosh, that's John Green's brother. Oh! I mean, I only made that comment, Hank, to try to give you some real, well-defined consequences for referring to yourself in the third person. I will be helping Magdalena with her problem at all. Oh, John, I, so also have a new phone that I mentioned earlier today. I might like it a lot.
Starting point is 00:44:32 And it can put a credit card number into it and then I just hold the phone up to a thing and put my finger on the fingerprint reader and it just pays, not everywhere. But if Magdalene, if your place has one of these, it is so much faster than paying with cash. It's faster than a credit card, it's faster than the chip thing,
Starting point is 00:44:49 it's faster than everything, it's immediate, and also not a lot of people use it yet, so everybody's sort of like, what did you just do? And then you can be like, it's me, Hank Green. I pay with my finger, and my hand is coming. The coin's coming, the coin's coming. The coin's coming, God, I could smell it coming.
Starting point is 00:45:05 That's not a good bit. I don't like it as a joke. What's the week's news from Mars? So John, the thing that keeps popping up in my Mars news at the top of my phone for like three days now is very frustrating to me. But I'm going to tell you this story. I'm going to read you the headline. In the hopes that your phone will hear you read it
Starting point is 00:45:27 And then be like okay, he knows that one time to move on yeah Russian prodigy who claims he lived on Mars before being reborn on earth Baffles scientists in parentheses video I mean, I was like, why is this dude? That headline might be peak 2017. So yeah, I don't know how to tell my phone that I don't want fake Mars news. That's what actual Mars news News that like experts are reportedly baffled by the testimony of Bariska, a young Russian
Starting point is 00:46:10 prodigy from the city of Volgagrad, who claims that he lived on a war-ravaged planet Mars long ago before being reborn on Earth. So apparently scientists are baffled. Why is that baffling? Because he has detailed knowledge of space apparently scientists are baffled. They are baffled. Why is that baffling? Because he has detailed knowledge of space and the conditions on other planets.
Starting point is 00:46:30 There's no way of... No way to acquire that on the internet. Nope, and there's all the things he knows. There's no way he could know it about the places, except that if he was making it up, I guess, would be one way. My favorite part about his idea is that when he was a Martian, he was seven feet tall and he was 35 years old because Martians had mastered the prevention of aging and all Martians stopped aging and became semi-immortal
Starting point is 00:46:59 at 35 years of age, which I guess is like a fairly good time to become semi-immortal, but like, if I could pick, I'd probably pick like 27. You know, like I feel like at 35, my peak physical fitness was already behind me. Actually, in my case, it was ahead of me, but only because I'd set such a low bar earlier in life. Yeah, well Hank, I'm very excited about that news from Mars and congratulations on the discovery of life on Mars
Starting point is 00:47:32 at last in the form of semi-amortal 35-year-olds. So Buriska says, human life will change when the syncs is opened. It has an opening mechanism somewhere behind the ear. I do not remember exactly. But he has an incredibly specific memory. Well, Hank, the news from ASC Wimbledon is that in really an encouraging sign, ASC Wimbledon have just signed a 20-year-old prodigy from Russia named Beryskia. Is he 20 or is he infinity?
Starting point is 00:48:10 I mean, we could really stand to have a striker who doesn't age. That would be a real gift. 35 is probably a little too old. If we could set it, I think we'd set it a little younger. AFC Wimbledon, Hank, we were in the first round of the FA Cup. You might remember the FA Cup, Hank, because a few years ago, AFC Wimbledon made it to the third round of the FA Cup
Starting point is 00:48:32 where they played Liverpool Football Club in one of the most exciting and weird days of my life. And this year, in the first round of the FA Cup, they played Lincoln City, which is a team I think from the seventh tier and they won the game one to nothing Hey, all right who scored that goal John? The messy from Montserrat by El Taylor. Does that mean that does that mean that his leg is feeling better? That means that he is recovered from his injury and is now back to scoring goals for AFC Wimbledon, which
Starting point is 00:49:05 is great because he is the only person scoring goals for AFC Wimbledon at the moment. AFC Wimbledon are now headed to the second round of the FA Cup where they're going to take on a significantly more challenging opponent in the form of Charlton Athletic, if they were to win that game, which which given the current run of form, I would say is not super likely, but if they were to win that game, they would move on to the third round of the FA Cup, which is when you can get teams like Manchester United
Starting point is 00:49:35 and Liverpool and Chelsea, and potentially a huge payday. So it would be great to win that second round game, but the arc of history is long and right now, a little troubling. Right. Right. Sorry to hear about the troubles, but I've got a silly was that team from your league. Did you tell me that night and listen? Correct. Yes. I told you that and you didn't. I believe that Lincoln's current city is currently in the seventh tier. Oh, okay. Wow. So you won by one goal over a seventh tier team. Well, let me go ahead and confirm that for you, Hank, because it might for all I know. No, they're in league two. They're in the fourth
Starting point is 00:50:16 tier of English football. It's barely even an upset. Yeah. All right. That makes me feel much better. We beat a fourth tier English soccer team, the kind of soccer team we might be next year if we don't watch out. All right, I'm sorry about that situation that I have swimmed in. It does make me legitimately nervous. Yeah, no, me too.
Starting point is 00:50:37 It's the first thing I think about every single morning. I think what can I do to ensure that AFC Winkel did remain a third tier English soccer team? And then I turn over to Sarah and I open my mouth I think what can I do to ensure that AFC Wimbledon remain a third tier English soccer team? And then I turn over to Sarah and I open my mouth as if to speak and she says, absolutely not. Well, I agree with her deeply. Thank you for potting with me, John.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Thank you for potting. We're going to go make our Patreon only podcast this weekend, Ryan's right now over at patreon.com slash Deerhank and John. only podcast this week in Ryan's right now over at patreon.com slash deer hankin john if you want to listen to the worst 10 minutes of audio available on the internet each week subscribe over there to this week in Ryan's but thank you for potting with me hank and thanks to everybody for listening. This podcast is produced by Rosiana Halls-Rohas and shared in Gibson it's edited by Nicholas Jenkins Victoria Bonorno, as our head of community and communications. The theme music that you're hearing right now and at the beginning of the podcast is from the great Gunnarola and as they say in our hometown, don't forget to be awesome.
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