Dear Hank & John - 119: Water Is Dry (w/ Greg Miller!)

Episode Date: December 11, 2017

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And I always want to talk to other people about how they manage their very busy lives and not destroy their brain or bodies. Sure, OK. What would you like to know? Just that. Just how I manage it out. I don't really. I always saw this story right before we left our old jobs. I was talking to co-workers before Christmas vacation, which would be a squitting.

And they were like, man, you gotta be looking forward to this. I'm like, dude, it's gonna be the best. I go home from work now and I get detention headaches right around my temples. And I've noticed I'm starting to go gray there. But when I go out and I do this, we start our own business. We'll set our own schedule. It'll be so relaxing. And I am so all over gray now,

three years into this business. Yeah. It just sucks it out of you, you know what I mean? I know what you mean. I've managed to dodge the gray hair bullet so far as a 37 year old. I have like six of them, but I'm keeping an eye on it.

I do have, this is what I have, is my eyebrow hairs are starting to be old man, eyebrow hairs and they're like, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna come down into your eyes. I wanna be down there. This is, yeah, I'm sitting in the button and Katherine, my wife is like not having a moment of it. She just, I'm sitting there watching TV

and it's just like, what just happened to my face? She's plucking my eyebrows. I was gonna say, she on plucking, but she's, oh that's great, that's a great wife. You need that, you need that. You need to keep, you know, you're youthful figure for all this YouTube and podcast. That's right, that's right. It's all about like really no one thinks about the importance of eyebrow size in the appearance of youth.

I'm still getting carded, but only because Catherine's fucking my eyebrows. Exactly. It's one of those things you take for granted. It's not so you see a really bad set of eyebrows where you're like, Oh man, that's a thing people need to pay attention to. They just like go and all you doing levy on you. Yeah, yeah. And it's just, then you just make a brand like you did, yeah. It's a, it is a, yeah, it's interesting to watch my body changes, I get older.

I also just had a baby and I was in an airport last night eating food and when I should clearly, like my fifth meal of the day and I Google, just having a baby make men gain weight. And yes, it does. There's a fair amount of research done on this. If you have a baby, even if you don't live with the baby, just having a baby makes you gain weight.

Just having that responsibility up there in the internet makes you gain weight. Yeah, it's just it's too much. It's on your mind. You're probably not sleeping as well as you used to it also changes your body hormones like things change when you have a baby Even for guys certainly not on the level not on yeah, of course not on the level of So yeah, you should count your lucky stars that you don't have any great hairs because yeah, like running kind of funny, this YouTube Twitch podcast empire we had here, it's how

we do spin plates. At any point, one of these plates could fall down. Hopefully, we have another one spinning on. That's right. On, right? And sense or something to keep it going. Yeah, that is the trick. You're diversified, as they say, in...

Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, we have that is the trick. You're diversified, as they say, in... Exactly. ...and... Yeah, we have a tripod business approach. You know what I mean? You take one leg out, the other leg will support. Yeah. You're gonna have like a, like a, like a 55-legged stool is really the way you want it. Exactly, I want it to work.

Exactly, you know what I mean? I think it was more like one of those wobbly tables you get at a restaurant when you go into some defaults of coaster and puts them under one of the legs. That's us. There's a lot of that happening, because yeah. And for every leg of the stool, you get at a restaurant when you go into the me full to coaster and puts them in one of the leg that's us. There's a lot of that happening because yeah. And for every leg of the stool you get a new gray hair which is, which is, you know, I think you're doing pretty well then.

Thank you. Yeah. If that my gray hair would definitely establish that as us running this video game comedy podcast true about here. So I heard that you were able to scrounge together a short poem for us. I was. I looked around the internet and you know I know there's a long history of poems here. John brings good stuff to the team usually. But I figured if I'm coming in here I had to find something that really spoke to who I am and gave your listeners a great window into who Greg Miller from kind of funny is. So this one is from JustMells.

He posted it online June 2014. It's titled Superman vs Batman. Like Superman to your Batman, I actually got power. Power with ink. Power with flow. Don't even blink. I'll make your mind blow. What's happening?

Just letting you know when I'm coming from everybody, me Greg Miller. Welcome to the show. I'm just strapping. I googled Superman poems and I found HelloPoetry.com slash Word slash Superman and this was the topic. I was like, you know what, just melt. You nailed it. I love it. You're crushed. I mean, it's Hello poetry dot com Hello, hello like we're saying how I I don't know why our podcast isn't the Hello poetry dot com podcast

I'll tell you they seem to have a lot of stuff because it's like a top of it. It says words Superman's highlighted obviously, but on the other sides clearly showing all the other words they can pull from. You have superior, superior, superiority, Superman, supermarket, supernatural. Wow. You know, super market poems. Yeah, you know what? I'm clicking on it right now. We'll see what we got.

Let's go here. Here we go. The first one I want to read you DJ Goodwin July 2013 super market retail hunter oh sorry retail hunter gatherers pick clean processed bones digging graves with their shiny teeth studious in their reveries as they drone. Pulse warrants dumped in the treasure. Oh, I kept having... The truck infields a film wrapped. I mean, they're deep on. Now, you think hella poetry might not have it. They got it.

I mean, that poem goes on for a while. Oh, it's dead, there's... It keeps going. I think we got the gist, though. I do love it. The Vegemite, Dyspora, and the Arctic wastelands cased in sliding glass fields of perfect steady storms and rates baked in halogen ask silent questions.

Oh man, silver beet. I tell you what, like I was just at the grocery store and I didn't feel any of those feelings. I was like, I would like a sandwich and he was like, that'll be a couple minutes. And then I, he's painting picture here. I also bought like some mango slices from my baby. Uh, pre, mango is so annoying and it's amazing

that somebody cut this mango up for me, so I don't have to do it. There are so many Superman poems. Well, I mean, come on now, he should be the world's most popular superhero. I mean, he's a good metaphor at the very least. Anyway, in the future, we will do the Hello Poetry podcast, but that's not what we are here to do today.

Do you wanna answer or ask and answer some questions from our listeners, Greg? I would love to. All right, well, I'll have to sweat our first one. And then you can do the second one. I really wanna get to this. And so I'm just gonna start with it. It's from Andrea who asks, heeey dear, Hank and Greg. I really want to get to this, and so I'm just going to start with it. It's from Andrea who asks,

uh, dear, Hank and Greg. I'm currently trying to study, but I keep it in distracted by the no food sign in the library. I know this question doesn't lend itself to a podcast, but it is, I know this question doesn't lend itself well to a podcast, but is the middle piece of food in the attached picture,

a slab of raw ham? Perhaps an oddly sliced beet? I need to know, Andrea. We'll put this picture up on the Patreon, you don't have to be a patron to look at it, just so that everybody can see what we're talking about. It's clearly three items of what has been labeled food. There's an apple, there's a piece of bread, and Greg, what is that middle thing? Maybe a whole loaf, maybe a whole loaf bread. Right, right, right. Like a, like a, more like a roll, maybe, a roll of bread and Greg, what is that middle thing? Maybe a whole loaf, maybe a whole loaf of bread. Right, right, right.

Like a roll, maybe, a roll of bread. Exactly, but a giant dinner, like a resting bread. It's like a resting loaf of bread. Somebody made this and they're dutch out, and they put it up. And then yeah, there is clearly a slice of what appears to be some kind of meat, but with a giant white center indicating there's a bone that has been cut through it. Yeah, it is maybe just the leg of a cow. It looks maybe like a steak.

It also maybe looks like a piece of bread that has been dyed red. And maybe it's got like the egg and a whole thing going where they cut the, and then they put it in, they cut the middle out of the bread and correct an egg into it. And that, but it's good. Yeah, have you ever seen it on the internet when they'll do the whole thing of the brain and the

grab people? All right cool. Draw a party for a memory. Draw a Pikachu for a memory. It strikes me as somebody grabs somebody and was like, I know you've watched a looney tunes episode before where they're eating meat. What do you think the meat, draw the piece of meat right now? It makes it look like when you have the giant turkey bone or ham bone.

Right. And then rather than see, because it looks like the end of that, where you see the bone and then surrounded by pink. But then someone took a circular saw and zoomed through the bone to then put it down. Right, and it's treated as if it were a loaf of bread. It just took a slice of right down the middle of that turkey leg. Yeah, I think that it's probably intended to be raw steak, like raw red meat. Which does seem like I agree you should not eat

raw red meat in the library. That's a good tip for life. Yeah. I don't know, if you get this, if anybody, I like a good steak tartar, but if somebody cut this and dropped that on a plate to me, I'd be like, no, sir, this is not correct. Also, clearly in the photo is touching the, both the rustic bread and the apple. So both of those, yeah, you can't have either of them anymore.

No, yeah, no. Which is a shame, because that bread and apple look great. That would be good to just cover slices of apple on that rustic bread and I'm down So I think that I think that it is perfectly natural for you Andrea to have been distracted by this very peculiar slice of beet bread It's very heavy up also seen this other one going around I started a while ago now, but it was like after the after the last month's incident Oreos are no longer allowed in the library And you like what was the after the after the last months incident Oreos are no longer allowed in the library What was the incident? What happened with Oreos that this school had a payment with the library? Other cookies are fine, but the entire institution of the like Numenos, all right, no problem

You want to bring a chips of hoeing here? We were fine with you Yeah, there must have been an Oreo fight. You'd think so, you'd think it was maybe a scavenger in her where people were hiding Oreos all over the library. Right, and now they're like still there forever. And because you didn't find all the Oreos and there's ants now. And then they start eating, they eat the, they are in the book, book glue, and that's never good.

Because that's, that's how books come together. Do you, do you want to hit us with that next question Greg? Sure let's jump into Cole. Nicole writes it. It says, dear John Hank, it's okay I wasn't supposed to be here. I understand. Nobody likes me. Around two and a half years ago I met a girl that moved to my town slash school and we became best friends like ultra best bros friends. My mom didn't like her, saying that she was a bad influence in such AND we had a lot of fights about it, but we remained almost sisters.

My friend has severe depression and anxiety. I've always been there for her and she's relied a lot on me. However a few months ago she moved away and we stopped talking and seeing each other as much. During this time I have come to notice that I didn't really miss her. My mental health improved incredibly and so was my relationship with my mother. Now I have the opportunity to talk to her again but I don't really want to. And my friends keep talking to me like I'm her other half which is really uncomfortable. If I tell her what's happened, I know it will affect her greatly

and not in a good way. What do I do? You are as in worried, Nicole. Nicole, that is a super hard situation to be in and I will start out by recognizing that and also commending you for recognizing the complexity of the situation that you're in right now. Which is that there is you and you want to take care of you, but you also care about your friend and you want to also care about her and not hurt that person. But it does seem that you are aware that you, like, who is, you know, if, you know, you need to be taking care of yourself first. So if you are in a place where you feel like

you can take care of yourself and also lend a little bit of support to this other person, then there is an opportunity there to do that. If you don't feel like you have that, if you don't feel like you're able to help that person without dragging yourself down, without pulling yourself into a place

you don't wanna be anymore, then that is not your obligation. Yeah, she doesn't feel like she has to be attached to this person, right? And I feel like just what she says here in the fact that she's in a better spot now, right? And I think even about that, she didn't really miss this friend.

I think that says a lot about where you guys are at. It's okay to not be friends. It's okay to end on good terms and move away from each other and go on and have different relationships with different people. I feel like that might be what this is. Yeah, and we've actually got another question coming up later in the podcast.

Maybe we should just loop it in about what? Oh, teaser. Yeah, teaser. But I can't jump it into it. Yeah, teaser. We're not really teasing anything. Yeah, that the, you know, somebody's sort of asking, hey, I have never had a friend that I feel like

is gonna be my friend forever. And asking us, like, who are our oldest friends and how long have we had those friends? I'm curious, what's your answer to that question? What's your oldest friend? Sure, I mean, my oldest friend is a name, oh, wait, no, that's all right. My oldest friend is a name, It's a boy named Pope.

I've known him since I guess first grade. And I'm 34 right now. I want to say we became best friends until probably right before high school, just like seventh or eighth grade, somewhere in there. But ever since then, yeah, we've been those kind of friends that, you know, we went to high school together then then went off to different colleges. Me and Missouri have been a Minnesota. And when we pick back up, we pick back up like nothing changed.

Let me know each other that well. We are brothers to that extent where I think we went through so much together that we don't need to check in with each other every week, but when we do every few months to catch up on what's happening or when I come back together, it's like nothing changed. Yeah. Yeah, that is, that's really wonderful. It's funny that you said that he was a boy because, you know, he's not anymore. He's 34 years old. What is the power of letting go our friends with your childhood friends? Yeah. But you still jump back to, remember that time you peaked in the car?

Like, yeah, dude, that was fine. I don't know what we did to get some friends. Yeah, I, I didn't, I don't have that as much with any of my friends from like elementary age. I don't know any of those folks anymore. I do, I am still very close with all the people I hung out when I was like 16, 17, 18, like late high school times and still hang out with them. Hopefully, once a year, once every two years

and you know, always em' touch with those folks. And, you know, this person is 17 years old and doesn't feel like this is Tiffany now. Have any friends that Tiffany's gonna be friends with until she's 30, like we are now. And that's okay, like that's fine. 100%. And you like- I feel like friends come in and out and there is an amount of like loyalty that can kind of like that maybe is sometimes expected

to friends that maybe is a little bit too much. Like if it's something that is important to you and that you want to keep that going and you want to find ways to make those relationships productive in long term, absolutely do that. It's like one of the great things in life, but it is energy and upkeep, so you want to make sure that you're spending

that energy on the people that you want to keep in your life forever, for a long time. Exactly, and you figure in my case, right, pose the outlier. Like I have a bunch of other friends that I do in junior high and high school, but I don't talk to them anymore. And like when you get to college,

that's where I made a bunch of what I would consider like adult friends, right? Friends that I'm still close to or talk to, but even then we're talking three people from my five and a half years in Missouri that I keep in touch with actively and want to spend time with or come back and visit or hear about their kids or whatever and not just have a cursive toward a Facebook contact. I still think you have the chance to make those friendships to make those connections.

It doesn't reflect on you. It isn't a bad thing that you already haven't done that at 17. Yeah, absolutely. We just answered two questions. I think it is. Look at us, we're not gonna stop the part. And I think, hey, what you said though, is great about like, you know, expected loyalty

and what best friends means. Like that's different for every person. And if you're meeting people that you like and you're friends with, but you don't wanna be invested on that level and that's totally fine. Yeah, but I do like, I you don't want to be invested on that level and that's totally fine. Yeah, but I do. I think it's important to recognize,

it's been important for me to recognize, I should say, that a great deal of joy and stability is brought into my life, by my friends. And sometimes I will be like, I sort of take that for granted, or I'll be like, well, yeah, but I've got so much other stuff going on in a baby, and I've got my marriage, and I've

got my family, and I've got my business, and it's just hard to do that. But to dedicate some time and think, like, I think of everything as projects now because I've broken my brain. And to dedicate time to that, to the management of the project of friendships, is really important. It has been really important for me for my mental health and my happiness. Even though it never seems like,

well, my top priority is never hanging out with my buds, because I have a child, so that's always gonna be the top priority. There is a life that depends on me. Yeah, this thing, it just pooped in its pants again. And that is the thing that I need to be taking care of right now. But it is, I think it is, it's not something, when I was younger, it just took care of itself.

It just happened because I was always available to hang out and that, but trying to keep those relationships maintained is more than just like a Facebook thing where I'm reading about whatever they're posting. It's an active project and it's something that pays dividends for me. 100% 100% 100% And I think that it's easy for those things

to sort of fall apart when you don't, like sort of inactively. Like it's one thing to be like, 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% It's all going pretty well, but then it all falls apart and you haven't talked in five years. So that's just something I've been thinking about generally with regards to friends and how thankful I am to have good friends. Yeah, I think for you guys, I'm assuming for you, but I know for me for sure, like having the friends I have that are in the friends who have been around for a while or knew me before,

I moved to San Francisco or stuff of that effect. Like they help keep me grounded, right? Because I think it's so easy to get caught up in my day to day. Well, this video game code didn't come in or this embargo is happening or we have to go, I got to go to LA tomorrow to go speak to a bunch of fans and I'm stressed out about packing and I talk to people who leave normal lives. And they're like, well, yeah, I'm a professor and I'm a doctor and I had to do this and it's like, oh, right, you have, they're talking about their children. You're like, right, there is a bigger world happening here than me wanting to talk about common books. I forget.

Yeah, that is very good for maybe us in particular. Exactly. I want to say that place every point of the world. For us, it is, that's what friends are there to do, right? It's to ground you and remind you what's real and what's important. Yeah, yeah, and provide a different diversity of worldview and also just relaxation if you can get it from them, which is great. This next question comes from Heratica who asks, dear Hank and Greg, my recently, my friends have been arguing about

whether or not water is wet. They say that water is obviously wet and that wetness is an inherent property of water. I, however, think that wetness is what happens when previously dry objects are covered by water and he do be his advice on the topic, would be super helpful. Like Radica without the L, Radica.

Thank you for the pronunciation, guys. I was gonna say Radica's a great name. This is Radica's name L Radica. Thank you for the pronunciation guys. I was gonna say Radica is a great name. Radical name. What do you think? I think it's wet. Of course it's wet. I think it's so wet that it's gone beyond the definition of wet. What Radica is saying, I understand the argument. I'm with her, but I think that. Okay, is it wet? I don't know. I'm touching it. Find out with her, but I think that okay, is it what I don't know touch it find out oh But what got wet The molecule

Of course You're hate you're saying it's not what I think I think that there's two ways to look at it. But I definitely, first of all, I think that technically water is not wet. I think that if you look at the definition of what wetness is, it is when something got wet and watered it and get wet, but it is, but it's just, but it's so wet. It's so wet. It doesn't need to get wet. It's so.

So, yeah, I, I, I'm going to, I'm going to stick firm and say that you have to be something that isn't water with water on you in order for you to. You're correct. I mean, the definition here on the internet, the state of condition of being covered or saturated with water or another liquid, dampness. But isn't water saturated with water? Isn't it the most saturated with water thing that you can have?

See, you just flip flopped out here. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the same question. It's your flip flop. I was going to say, you can't trust these definitions. This is like as a hotdog sandwich. And you read the definition of a sandwich, like, I don't know what kind it could be.

It's not, hotdog's not a sandwich. We got, I don't want to get into the definitions of it. Water's wet next to Redica. It kind of upsets me. It kind of upsets me that we could actually live in a world in which, like, it feels like water needs to be wet for like the world to make sense.

But I think that it's not wet. I think it's not wet. It's really weird to me. So I'm gonna go on a off on a tangent here. It is weird to me. Here we go, let's get everybody in the car. We're gonna change it. Wait, you could wet ice,

so you could get a piece of ice that's really cold and thus dry. Sure. It's not wet and then put water on it so you could wet water in that way. But this isn't the tangent. The tangent is, so all the stuff we eat, all the stuff we put into our bodies

is mostly like life stuff, like plants and animals. And yes, there's portions of those plants and animals that are inorganic things, like potassium and vitamin, or whatever, I don't know. So there's definitely inorganic stuff that you're eating and that are important to your body that you need in order to function. But water is really weird in that it's a mineral. It is not a living thing, it's not an organic compound, it's a mineral. It is a, it is not a living thing,

it's not an organic compound, it is a mineral. It is like a frozen ice, it's just another rock basically. And then, but we need to drink this mineral all day long in order to not die immediately. It's, you're right. Because we have to fill up our weird meat sacks with wetness in order to be alive. Yeah, we have to make our insides wet for sure.

With water, that's also wet. Yeah, it is important to keep the insides wet. I guess as you know, would you say water's dry? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha controversial opinion that I that like doesn't matter and that I will defend with my life That's what you want that's the whole you want to die on water is dry By definition water is dry boom take that I'm just gonna tweet it no context water is dry exactly See how that one goes All right, what else do we got you got another question for me? I feel like we covered this one. We got another one here, but it's the same idea where it's gonna be us arguing scratch heads unless we want actually get into it. Brooke writes in and says,

Hank and John, again, I feel Hank, you didn't promote me enough that I was going to say. Our orange is named oranges because they are orange or is the color orange called orange because oranges are orange. The word orange has lost all meaning to me. Fruity frenzy. But I mean, yeah, you definitely did that to all of our brains. That is, that was a very well, it's like that. It's like buffalo, buffalo, buffalo, buffalo, buffalo, buffalo, buffalo, buffalo, except, except there were like some words that weren't orange in that sentence.

I actually looked this up. Do you want to want another real answer? Hold on. Yeah, I do. But before we do it, I want to take a guess. I got to take a guess. Okay, that is correct. The real answer.

So our oranges named oranges because they are orange, or is the color orange called orange because oranges are orange? I'm gonna say. Wait, what if, like, there is a third option here that the word orange and the color, like the fruit orange and the color orange are not linguistically related.

That happens sometimes. There are situations where, and in fact, there is, there are some places called orange, like town names, and those actually, well that orange county comes from from oranges, but in England I think there's like a town named orange and that actually comes from a different name, a different like linguistic root than the color orange and the fruit orange, but but they are

linked, the color and the fruit are actually are linked, that is not the okay my guess is gonna be the color came first and then because I also know that like human beings just aren't that imaginative so somebody saw an orange and was like oh it's like the sky or the color orange or the orange so we're gonna name that for orange you are incorrect. Damn it. We actually named the colors relatively late, considering how we treat our people. Really?

So we, like, colors, when we're teaching children, like it's one of the first things they learn, is like, we're trying to be like, this is a blue fish, and this is an orange fish, and like, teaching that relationship is part of cognitive development, and like, that you can apply labels to something and it is still a fish, but it is a different colored fish. Or it's a big fish or a small fish or whatever.

Sure. So we use colors in that way a lot and so it seems to us in the today world that colors are a very basic property but I listened to a podcast once in which they are... in the today world that colors are a very basic property, but I listened to a podcast once, in which they hit me with the very slow, and like not all at once, inclusion of different colors

into vocabularies, and it happened quite slowly. And orange, the color was drawn out of orange, the fruit, and orange, interestingly, the word that we, you know, the sort of root of the word orange is really old, because apparently it's had oranges for a long time. And it's one of the not very many words in English that is actually from Sanskrit. And cheese.

Yeah, and it sounds pretty similar to, more similar to like the Spanish word for orange, than our word for orange, which is like Niranjha, or Niranj. And then we, and then I think the French took it and made it into something more like orange, and then we turned it into oranges. So that's the situation with oranges.

Also, maybe because of its weird root is why there are not very many words that rhyme with it. Or none, depending on how you count. I did a bunch of research on the word orange. This is how you spend your nights. When you're not trying to keep this baby alive, you're not Wikipedia-T tracing the root origin of all. Well, Brooke needed an answer, Greg. And God bless you for being there for her. Yeah, yep. This question next question, Greg, comes from Megan, who I've just been pasting your name

and because you're here, it says, Do I know you're trying to make it look like you planned this at all? Rather than just grabbing me off the streets. I dropped my bagel here, I'm in a podcast room. Well, it is like you planned this at all. Random and just grabbing me off the streets. I dropped my bagel here, I'm in a podcast room. Well, it is what you do. I mean, it comes from Megan who asks, dear Hank and Greg, I have been cursed with both a very common first name and a very common last name.

My name is Megan Johnson, and I've always grown up with multiple meggens around. In every activity and every class, there was almost always another meggen present. This never bothered me much as a child because we were pretty easily distinguished by our last initial. I'm now in my third year of college

and I've just recently found out that there are 21 people named meggen Johnson at my college. Do you go to Megan Johnson College? Three of which have my same middle initial. My question is, how can I become the ruler of the Megan Johnson's and differentiate myself as the best Megan Johnson among those at my university? Duplicates and dragon fruits, Megan.

Megan, this is a question that has plagued mankind for a long time. I'm not a Megan Johnson part, but how do you differentiate yourself from people who have the same name as you? I'm well, first of all, I gotta say, if your last name is Johnson, you gotta name your kid something weird. Like you just got to, you can't name your kid John or Steve, well probably Steve would be okay these days, but certainly not Megan and not any, like you gotta look at the roles and be like,

anything in the top hundred is out, cause you know you're setting your child up for this situation. Sure, yeah, I mean I'm a Miller, right? You're a Miller incredibly talented. So many correct Miller's out there. So what are you gonna, you gotta name your offspring, something that isn't common.

You got a- I think orange. It can't rhyme with anything, so I like that. It's very similar to my son's name, weirdly enough. What's your name? His name is Orin. And his last, and his initial of his last name is G, so he's like Orin G.

Oh, that's good though. I mean, it was not on purpose just to be very clear. I'm sure it wasn't. I'm sure it wasn't. Yeah. You know, you're among friends and family here. You don't have to hide it. You can see on us with why you named your son that because you're a big war in G fan.

He thought this would be the kind of a twist on it. Yeah, yeah. Sure. So I feel like for this question, there's two ways to go with it. There's for Greg Millarilis. There's the college way I differentiated myself. In then, my post-college way. Because obviously, I graduate college, I want to go into the world of video game journalist, and I'm going to be online.

There's a million Greg Millarilis. And I need to get into the world of video game journalism. I'm going to be online. There's a million Greg Miller's and I need to get to the top of Google search results. But above me was number one, Greg Miller lock picker for begin lock picker, lock picking for beginners, which was just a book about lock put picking. Okay. Number two was Greg Miller, Elvis impersonator in Vegas. Number three was Greg Miller who had Greg Miller.com for Greg Miller photography and I thought I would never be able to use Sird. But on the internet it was simple Megan just taking a shirt off a lot and talking about B of E. A long time and there you go, you actually use the top. A bunch of people find you on Twitter and you beat it that way.

Now in college when I went to college I wasn't worried so much about how do I differentiate myself from Greg Miller. It was just like who do I want to be at college? And now, it would give you a little bit of a protolog to this. I went to Catholic school, so I wore uniforms from kindergarten to 12th grade, till I graduated high school. So I graduated high school feeling liberated.

I'm going to college now. I can wear whatever I want, I can be whoever I want. The man I decide to be is this. I walk in to my dormitory at the University of Missouri. It's a hot day in the end of August here getting ready to start a new school year. I walk in from foot to head and goes like this. I'm wearing red converse high tops. I am wearing tube socks up to the middle of my shin. I am wearing jean shorts. In no jean shorts we're not in style back then. I just wore them. I am then wearing a wrestling t-shirt. Probably the WCW invasion angle. I was a big fan of that. However, over the wrestling t-shirt Hank, I am wearing a Hawaiian shirt of which Of which I bought seven and you might say why why would you buy seven Hawaiian shirts because Hank

I said when I was finally out of out from underneath this uniform oppression I said I'm gonna go to college and every day I'm gonna go to college and every day Every day Hank I'm going to wear a Hawaiian shirt over my wrestling shirts my superhero shirts Whatever shirts on weight and you may say Hank Greg why would you make this choice and the choice was based on an episode of the Simpsons We're Homer Where Homer says to March when Bart is wearing a Hawaiian shirt? where Homer says to March when Bart is wearing a Hawaiian shirt, Marge only two kinds of people wear Hawaiian shirts.

Big fat party animals in gay guys. And I said, I don't want to go to college, you'd be a big fat party animal. Now you might think that's the kuda grada, that's the top of the story. No, let's go a little bit higher. The black ring glasses, I still wear to this day, because I just look awesome. But then my hair is bright blue. Middle house blue. I graduated high school.

I said, no more uniforms. I can do whatever I want. I bleached my hair. I dyed it blue. And I wore it that way for a year and a half on the University of Missouri campus. And Megan, I'm not saying you need to do this to different you, so I'm not letting you know.

No, no, no. I was very different. I mean, I will tell you that I did not that, but similarly, I went to regular public school, so I got to wear whatever I wanted in high school. But I also, even in high school, were like intentionally, like, attention grabbing items of terrible clothing. And, you know, I think it's just to some extent. Please look at me, which obviously, if you become fairly popular

on the internet, it's possible that you have a little bit of a, please look at me, desire. Ah, me? No. You kidding me? a little bit of a please look at me desire. Oh, you can't eat me. Um, so, so do you, do you, one question to ask yourself, Megan, is do you want to be the leader of the Megan Johnson's? So if you're sure you want that, I think you will start being the leader of the Megan

Johnson's with that have you are same middle initial and then, uh, and then they become your sort of like brain trust and then that small group can go and take over all the rest of the Megan Johnson's. But the good news is that like taking over 21 people, it's not that hard. I mean, people take over whole nations. So you start somewhere.

If I don't make a Johnson's together on the quad or whatever, then knock out the tallest one. It's like in prison. And that will certainly be the problem in certain mega-jotsis. And that will be the worst. I was worried that this was going to go like red-weighting on us. And I was like, no, stop. I'm not an advocate, murder.

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Oh, that's, can you, is that a, is that a passable lie? Like, like, it is a pretty information dense world these days. I feel like people could figure it out. But I feel like there's gotta be something you can say you're fining on the internet. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly.

Just like edit that Wikipedia page every single morning. Yeah, just get a screen grab. This is what happened before TMZ took it down or whatever. All right. This time for another one? No, I'm going to hit you with our sponsors, Greg. Because this podcast is brought to you by Megan Johnson, daughter of Dwayne the Rock Johnson,

available at University leading all Megan Johnson's there and everywhere. It's also brought to you by water. It's wet. It's dry. It's wet, goddamn. I just really had. You know what I mean?

They bought this space to tell you, and settle it once and for all. It's wet. It's wet. It's wet. But I guess it's also brought to you by Eugene Levy's eyebrows. Slowly trying to crawl upon my own face. Wow.

They're going to get you if you let them. And I think your final sponsor, if I'm correct, is... No, do you airport restaurants? They're gonna get you if you let them. I think your final sponsor, if I'm correct is... No, you do your airport restaurants. They're airport restaurants. They're to feed you when you've had a baby. God, yes. I did not remember that reference. That one had left.

I was like, what are you talking about? Well, my favorite when you were telling the story. Like, the podcast moves so fast, they won't interrupt. But when you're telling the story, you know like the fuck I was so fast they wouldn't interrupt but when you're telling the story You're like I was sitting there eating food I could be eating I could be eating ice just this weird mineral that we just eat in order to not be dry on the inside So weird Good wet I could wet my eyes. All right. Let's let's hit let's hit like one or two more questions

I don't know how long we've been recording because my recording is set to to measures So we've been we've been recording for a 1432 measures at 120 beats per minute so I believe that equates to about 46 minutes. Okay, thank you. We're doing the conversion. You are, me. All right, one more one or two more questions

before we get to the news from Mars and AFC Wimmelden. This one comes from Jackie who asks, do you hang a Greg? Whenever at rains, snails start appearing all over the concrete and in my steps, leading to my front door, I worry for them. Water pools on the concrete and I worry that the snails are gonna drown.

What are they trying to flee? Should I relocate them. Water pools on the concrete, and I worry that the snails are gonna drown. What are they trying to flee? Should I relocate them to a nearby potted plant, or are they just out for a nice stroll, and should I leave them be? Momento Mori, including snails, Jackie. Man, you guys write in about weird stuff in this pot. Yeah. Weird stuff.

I mean, snails are a garden pest. Like they're the thing that you have to be playing. That's horrible. Well, but like, Yeah, they do it really slowly. Can't tell there's no one's got to look at. Depends on what you're, if you got like cabbage,

man, snails and slugs are the worst. You open up your cabbage, you know, I thought I was gonna have this beautiful cabbage, and instead I have like a weird slug ball, and it's mostly slug, and that's not what I worked all year watering this thing for. Good point. I guess that the snails are trying to stay dry,

because the rain is wet. And it's gonna. Yeah, the rain makes the ground wet. All right, and this nails. Yeah, it does, it's weird to me. It appears when I lived in Florida, this is not the case in Montana, cause we barely rains ever here.

When it would rain, they would just be like, where did these things come from? Where were they? Like did where they just like, born? Did they fall out of the sky? And then you have to worry about them dying or getting stepped on or just, they're everywhere.

And it actually, sometimes I feel like I could smell the smell of all the snails that died after a big rainstorm. Terrible, awful, weird, snott smell. Yeah, that's the thing about snails and slugs. Yeah, you don't think they're out there, and then when it does rain and they come out, that's where you're like, where have you all been hiding? What were you up to? What are you plotting?

What is the, where is the, where is the magical, like, snail wonderland where you all hang out when it's dry dry and that gets flooded every time it rains. And I like it. Jackie worries about you are they trying to flee the rain. Are they stop first? I'm always whenever I see a snail out in the rain on the sidewalk with street. It's one of those like, ah, like it's one of those rare currencies where I can see you

in the future. You're going to get smushed. It's not going to be, but someone's going to step on you. You're going to get by a car. You should have just stayed wherever you were. I know you're worried about drowning You know, you know, you know, they breathe through their skin most of the time so they get away from it, but like You're in trouble, buddy. You're in trouble. I do like Jackie I will commend you on your on your sympathy for the match for like

Protecting snails from the natural processes in which they will die, but do remember they'll die no matter what and so will everything Sure that's part of life death is part of life I can't believe you're letting caterpillars off so easy that I guess it's because my mom had these big rhubarb plants And the caterpillars would get on those leaves and eat those and I always wanted the rhubarb cobbler So I was always anti-cada pillar way more than any time snail. I Feel yeah, I feel, yeah. Well, I guess we have both of those problems here in Montana. I don't know.

Slugs are just way grosser, you know? Like, you cut... Yeah, no, they're definitely grosser. Oh, they're so sluggish. But no, I agree. If you're trying to feed humans with plants, those organisms are not your friends. No. Yeah, so that's that's

why I just let somebody else grow on my food now I don't try I don't try to do that anymore too much well it's just so much work you got a smondering you got to look for these guys I'll tell you I'll take a tangent for you here so one time I was out at the cake andKK River, KKK Illinois. We caught a bunch of snails. I thought I would bring them home and put them into the aquarium of my aquatic turtle, Poki 2. I brought them in.

I put them into Poki 2's aquarium, went to bed, woke up the next day, he'd eaten all the snails. That's great. It was close at all. It was crazy. Because Poki 2 was a pretty chill turtle that I also got from the KKKK River. So you thought these guys would have some kind of

KKKK River communal agreement that they're all gonna just chill out, they'd remember each other. That was not the case. And at first I thought maybe the stale set escaped. I was looking for slime trails out of the aquarium and then it would just be came clear, but no, no, he ate them.

Well, that's great. That's great. You can keep going, getting KKKKK stale's or whatever that word. You can keep going, get and can't get key snails or whatever that word was and bringing them back, you don't have to buy, you don't have to buy turtle food anymore. He's got snails.

Yeah, that's a good point, I guess. I mean, what do you think? Well, the earth she gives. What do you think, Pokedt Turtle was eaten when he was in the river? Yeah, I, we never talked about it. He was a baby, I think when we, I mean, to be clear, we kidnap them. You know, I mean, he was a very small turtle when we got him, I kind of feel about it. I'm used to baby. I think when we, I mean to be clear, we kidnap them.

You know, I mean, he was a very small turtle when we got it. I kind of feel bad looking back on that. But let again, I don't know how turtles really roll if they have a family thing. And I know your listeners are thinking, I'm talking about Poki too, was the original Poki his brother in the river? No, original Poki was a box turtle who lived in aquarium next to Poki too.

So they were brothers that I had brought together, but not brothers my blood. Right. They weren't even they weren't even species brothers Correct. Yeah, yeah and and Poke one was just just like a store turtle Yeah, yeah, you just you just chill. She liked to eat carrots One time we put her in the backyard my dad's fencerated with chicken wires so she could be out in the grass nice We you know went about our day and then we came back and she escaped No, and like there was there was a moment of panic But then we remembered that all Pokey ever wanted to do was hibernate So we just went to the darkest corner that we could find in the yard and sure enough there she was sleeping

Back in the year Just nightmare of the sun always being on. I had to escape so that I could relax. I had to rest. Jail breaks so that I can sleep. Good. A very slow jailbreak to the side of the house. I'm playing my head against the foundation. All right, Greg, did you bring us news from AFC Wibbleden?

I have breaking news. AFC Wibbleden. Are you ready? Yeah. All right, the headline is Neil sums up his disappointment after defeat at your We'll build in. I have breaking news. Oh, are you ready? Yeah. All right, the headline is Neil sums up his disappointment after defeat at Yovil. Oh, no. This is by Chris Slavin, of course.

Neil Ardley concluded that it was a poor team performance from Wendleton's much charged lineup at Yovil Town after last night's check-a-trade trophy exit. Speaking very interview for I follow after last night's two O'Loss, Neal said, the best team won. They were much more at it than us in every way, both physically and mentally. It was a poor performance. Too many players who had not played at first team level for a while seemed to be a bit rusty.

We played players on a position, which was hard because of the lack of players we had, but that's no excuse. There is loads to learn from it. Lots of development for the younger boys, but the best team won. Ouch. Ooh, it's a rough one. You know what I mean? If you can't get a W and you don't feel it, you got problems. That's right. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I know nothing about that at all, but I, yeah. No, none of this made sense to me at all. I know, I'm acting like I understood. Well, the good is, is that AFC Wimbledon

is getting a bunch of money coming up soon because they've pulled a very good draw in the FA Cup. So they're gonna play in a very big stadium against a very big team, so they get half the money. And so instead of the normal like 4,000 tickets, they're gonna sell like 80,000 or something ridiculous. So that will hopefully allow them to invest in some players. I think John's gonna talk more about that next week on the podcast.

If they come out of the order that I believe they're going to come out in. In Mars News, Greg, do you wanna know about the Mars News that I found it's really weird? I should just search for Mars on a Hello Poetry and see what happens. That should be my, I bet you get some, there's gonna be a lot of Mars, Mars poetry and then a few months to play it. Baby kiss me like we're on Mars and the only breath we have is from each other's lungs. Oh, Leo. Who nailed it?

Plus 23 with 2.3 thousand likes or something on whatever platform whatever that icon is it's got 2.3 thousand, I got distracted from my actual Mars news, which is that you know Buzz Aldrin, right? I do know Buzz Aldrin personally. So he went to the moon and he's doing a brand deal right now, which I love, that he's Buzz Aldrin, he's doing a brand deal. He's doing a brand deal with Spray. And 2017, get paid. Yeah, he's doing it with Spray Ground and New York-based accessories label. So that second human to step on the moon

is doing his first and only fashion collaboration, a mission to Mars themed capsule line. And when they say capsule, I think they mean backpack. Well, I don't know actually what a capsule line and when they say capsule, I think they mean Back pack, well, I don't know actually what a capsule line is. So there's a backpack Solar panels on it a duffle bag a baseball cap and gloves all emblazoned with a colorful assortment of patches including one featuring Aldrin's face in the words moon Mars and beyond and I've gone to spray grounds Collaborations page spray.com slash collaboration slash Bud Buzz hyphen, Aldrin's hyphen mission hyphen two, hyphen bars.html, which will link to.

It rolls off the top so you guys can find it so easily. Which we'll probably link to on the Patreon because oh my god, it's so cool. He's in like a freaking hover car. And these hot ladies have guns and some clearly cybernetic armor and they're all wearing this very, very cool but also pretty nerdy backpack

that I'd almost definitely am going to buy. There's also a mission to buy. The guys are just this stuff to it. It's easy to make fun of them, but yeah, this is actually what's pretty cool. The mission to Mars shark patches, Parker Buzz Aldrin collab, also very cool. The solar power backpack is coming soon. The non-solar power backpack is available now for $80.

And the gloves are only 20 bucks, and they're really frickin' cool. Oh man, I didn't expect to like this as much as I do. I know, right? It feels weird. It sounds so goofy, and you look at it, and it's actually kind of cool. This is definitely something that Greg Miller would totally afford for a year of college. Oh my god, I'm going right now. 2018's like no more learning. All right, well, this was a bad brand deal that we didn't get paid for, but Spring Ground is doing a very cool mission to Mars.

Mission to Mars fashion collab with Buzz Aldrin who's sitting in his amazing space chair. However, that got made. Oh man, the world, the universe is such a wonderful place. I'm gonna have a fun time shop. It's Buzz Aldrin and it's Mass Effect and it's Star Wars and it's division. It's like a million. It's all these, it's sharks. The sharks don't make any sense. Yeah, the shark. There's like shark bites all over the place. Oh, I've got, oh man, I'm upset that I'm gonna have to wait until this podcast comes out to tweet about this. Yeah, right.

But wonderful. So that's the news from Mars. Greg, can you tell me like what exactly we learned today on this podcast, if anything? Water is definitively wet. All right. You can't say water's dry, so that's the thing you learn. I'm pretty sure that water's dry.

Oh, I know. In fact, I did tweet about water being dry during this podcast, and I kind of want to see what the responses to that have been. My friend, I hope it's just riots. My friend, Tah-Haw, looks like he's maybe a little bit frustrated with me, and what else have we got? It's non-alcoholic, so it's dry in the sense, like a dry county.

Oh, that's good. David says, the earth is a triangle, just to come back at me. I have to say, it's maybe not my best performing tweet. I feel like it's really like coming in significantly under the bar with 300 likes. Usually I'm doing better. Here's the thing, hey, you know, I love you, I respect you. You built an empire, you're amazing, you're a coward.

If you were a man, you would have made this a whole, but you knew you'd get trunks so you didn't put a hole in there. There's no reason we didn't get to that. My friend Greg Miller just responded to this tweet with just two characters in a punctuation. It's N.O. period. So... Somebody's got to say it.

Water's dry. I think water might be dry. We're really excited to defend this terrible opinion for years and years to come. Thank you, Robert. I mean, this is the next five years, you know, like someone arguing this with you on the internet. I'm ready to have some different arguments on the internet right now. I'm done.

I'm done with the... Okay. And we also learned that you shouldn't touch your rustic bread with raw meat in a library Great point. We also learned about a great site called Hello poetry dot com. Oh, we learned how about hello poetry dot com I feel really weird. They didn't know more about Hello poetry until now and finally we Finally, we are in that Buzz Aldrin is still Working it right now fashion model in that Buzz Aldrin is still working it right now. Fashion model.

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