Dear Hank & John - 141: Gretel's Instagram Regrets (w/ How to ADHD!)

Episode Date: May 21, 2018

Am I accidentally a horrible person? What should I do with 1,000 business cards? How do I not break my grandmother's heart? And more! Email us: [e-mail] patreon.com/dearhankandjohn Thanks to Jessica and Edward of How to ADHD for joining the pod today!

Shhh! Whistler Support It! WNYC Studios Hello and welcome to Dear Hank and John. Or as I like to call it, Dear Jessica and Hank. Or as I like to call it Dear Edward and Jessica and Hank. That's right you guys, this is the first time there's ever three people on the podcast. I think, I think this is the first time

we've ever had three people on the podcast. But in any case, this is a podcast where two brothers and occasionally, special guest hosts, answer your questions, give you the DBS advice and bring you all the week's news from both Mars and AFC and one and except for that last part isn't gonna happen today, because we're recording this significantly in advance.

And our guest hosts today are Jessica and Edward, who together produce and create the YouTube show How To ADHD, about attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and associated things. I'm really excited to hang out with you guys again. So I've always enjoyed hanging out with you, but this time we're gonna record it the whole time, which is extra weird.

It's super weird, especially when we're not in charge of the edit. If it makes it less weird, I totally recorded it all the first time. Wait, what? What? Not allowed, you have to, we were in California, you have to tell people.

You have to tell people. I just told you, I just told you. I feel like there's some sort of statute of limitations on like how long you have to tell them. So now I have to invent time travel, it's fine. It's fine, this is how I start the podcast, I ask, how are you doing? I, I'm good, I got to go back to yoga for the first time

because I was in a coma from, I adopted a puppy, like, six weeks ago and I was like, oh, it'll be a cute thing to have around the house. And I forgot that it's mostly teeth and bladder for the first month at least. And so I'm finally coming out of this coma where I'm like, I have time for other things. So I got to go to yoga today

and I was like, every year in charge of the dog. Bye. And I just ran out the door and it was fantastic. I had a great time just because, I think I'm also finding out what kind of dad I'm going to be because Jessica and I are married obviously but maybe not obviously to something but yes we are. I'm finding out what kind of dad I'm going to be because when Jessica takes the puppy out her name is Chloe she's so like gentle and like hey we're going to do this and training and I just went okay you have be tired, we're running. So we basically ran for about seven or eight minutes straight.

Like, I would stop to let her catch her breath and she has tiny legs. I mean, I wasn't running. I was speed walking at best. She was hauling. She was fast as she could. Which is hilarious, because you have very specific instructions on like what to do.

Yeah, oh no, I did not do this. Any of them. Come on. No, I did. I did. You said exercise her and feed her, and I did those things. Awesome. I totally did.

You guys. But it only took me like seven minutes. I feel like you're going to be the kind of dad where I'm like entertain our kid, and I'm going to come back and you're going to be like, Pokemon Beer was fine, right? What do you mean heroine's off the table? Yeah, you got, you can't undo all of the hard work that Jessica did with this puppy at one hour at yoga class

Like textbook parent it right now. It's happening you're learning right? No, we have to get on the same page so seriously because I'm so gonna be like the disciplinarian and Edward's gonna be the fun dad and it's gonna suck Yeah, I'm trying you just have to care less just have to care less. You have to care less. I can't. I don't know how to help you. All right, we're gonna do some questions from our listeners, you guys, because I cannot psychoanalyze this just this one particular couple.

We also have to deal with people who are actually looking for advice, unlike you, who I'm giving it to, unprompted. This is the first question. Oh, wait, no. No, you brought a poem. So you should do a poem. Yes. I did bring a poem.

OK, so I love this poem. It's by Emily Dickinson, who, by the way, was thought to have not just a question, but also possibly ADHD. Oh, wow. So it's called, I had no time to hate because I had no time to hate because the grave would hinder me,

and life was not so ample, I could finish and muddy. Nor had I time to love, but since some industry must be, the little toil of love I thought was large enough for me. Oh yeah, that's good, oh man, poetry. It did the thing that poetry is supposed to do to me. It makes you feel? It poetry did not you just admit. Yeah, yeah, poetry is supposed to do to me. It makes you feel. It poetry did not you just then. Yeah, yeah.

That was really good actually, you guys. Hey, you guys, was that a, was that a happening? Wait, tell me. Tell me. What did you feel? What did it make you feel? It gave me a little goosebumps. I was like, oh, yes, that is right. Right, I love short poems.

I love short poems because it's impossible to cram the whole of everything that you want to express in eight lines and yet she did it. Right? It's so impressive to me. You had told me about this one before, but just hearing you read it just now, I really did give me chills.

That was amazing. Maybe I have a career in poetry reading. There we go, let's just, if all ADHD thing goes away. How to poet, it's the name writes itself. Please keep going. No, but the reason why I love this poem so much is because it really does remind us,

and like as a YouTuber, I have to remind myself of this all the time, like you don't really have time in life to fight with people and to hate things. It's just your time here is short, so do something good with it. Hate doesn't get anywhere, it just creates more hate, right?

I feel you, absolutely. And speaking of having a positive impact on the world and the time in which we're here, we have a question from Jillian. It's a segue, you guys, it happened. Wow. That was a stretch tank, I'm not gonna lie. It's a fire, that's a segue.

So, Gillian asks, dear Hank and Jessica, an Edward, I am having an extremely important ethical dilemma. When in the grocery store, I look for and buy produce products with the latest expiration date available. I previously thought that this was normal and inconsequential, but am I contributing to product waste or causing people that shop after me to buy older produce? Please help as I may be a horrible person and do not know it.

I wish I had an implicit sign off, but in the attempt once in a Gillian. That works. Oh, no, I love that. I love that. I love that. Okay, first of all, I do want to normalize this for you because I'm pretty sure that everybody does this.

Like everybody goes and looks through because you have to make sure it's not expired. And then while you're looking, you're like, maybe there's one that's less expired or more not expired. I think it's really normal to do it, but yes, it does contribute to product waste. I worked in the restaurant industry for a lot of years

and there's a thing that you have to do which is first in, first out. So that's how these systems keep working without breaking down is if whatever's on front, that's what you take. However, I will give you this permission. If you are going to cook something in five days and you need this thing

to not expire before then, I don't think there's anything wrong with like taking one behind it. But if you know that you're gonna like, I don't know, you're getting milk and you're gonna use it all today or tomorrow anyway, like take the one that's gonna expire in a few days and like, you know, do humanity a favor. But I think that there are certain circumstances. When it's totally fine to be selfish and look for the one in back. The other thing I gotta say to Jillian is just thinking about this makes me think you're probably a pretty good person.

Like you're like putting this front of mind, you're like, wait, wait. What is the effect that my seemingly inconsequential decision is going to have on the world at large? Just the fact that you had that thought makes me think, you're probably doing okay. Exactly. No, that's a really good point.

I think probably most of the people walking around thinking they're horrible people are some of the best people on the planet just because everybody who's actually a horrible person is like, I'm fine with all of this. Yeah, if you're truly horrible, self-reflection is not a symptom of being a terrible person. You can just be like, yeah, I didn't even occur to me that I am just awful.

I think mostly people, it does not occur to them. And such is life. You guys want to ask another question? All right. So Kirsten asks, dear Hank and Jessica, I guess, and Edward, my graduate school required you're here too. My graduate school requires us all to purchase a set of business cards at the start of our program, presumably for networking and that sort of thing, either in sets of 250 or

500. I ordered 500, but that turns out to be a lot of business cards. Plus I somehow ended up with a double order, so now I have a thousand business cards. My program is only two years long, and at the rate I've been handing them out, there's not a snowball chance, and hell, I'm gonna use all of these cards. I thought that if anyone had any dubious ideas

about what to do with a thousand business cards, it would be you two. Thanks for any suggestions you can give. Here's to. You three, just so. Oh, yes, you three. You're still here? Uh, once upon a time in the history of Vlogbrothers, I actually had this exact problem.

I, well, very similar. I accidentally got my business cards printed with the same thing on the front and back, and it was just the logo of my company. My name was not on them anywhere. And so I turned to the audience and said, hey, what should I do with all these sprinted business cards? And I got a bunch of ideas. I taped them to my face.

I made little origami things out of them. And then ultimately, you could also just, I was like, oh, I could just stamp my name and number on them and turn them into actual business cards. That's not going to help Kirsten here. Who, gosh, how long does it take to even meet a thousand people? It depends on if you're how introverted you are, I suppose. It would take me quite a while. Assuming that she can't go through these thousand business cards in

the two years, I just, I vote you still use them, they're still good. Just crossed out the listing as a candidate in the program and replace it with, I don't know, either what you still use them. They're still good. Just crossed out the listing as a candidate in the program and replace it with, I don't know, either what you are now or if you wanna have fun with it, replace it with things like space alien or professional dog petter or, which is promoter because you like the color purple and you think there should be more purple in the world.

And then even better, like pass them all out at the same party until everybody's like really confused. Wait, I love, I love, love the idea that the color purple has like an association. And it's like, this is it. Well, it's got its own movie. Just so work with it. Yeah, this, this, right, right, I forgot. This, this, this, this movie brought to you by the purple association of America. We just didn't know there was enough purple,

so we started the organization. You know, there's advocacy for all kinds of things, Hank. Yeah, exactly right. Yeah. Whatever you think is important and there should be more of in the world, like you can be an advocate for that. You could be an advocate of grilled cheese sandwiches. I am an advocate of grilled cheese sandwiches.

Oh, yeah, talking for sure. I just realized that if you did hand those things out and with the scratch, I think of something else, to the viewer, it would seem as though you'd had a drastic change in career. Yeah, make it so it's still visible, whatever it was before. The whole thing didn't, the whole graduate school thing did not work out. I am now a space alien. I mean, that's pretty much what people do.

And they go to college for one thing and then like they cross that out and like, you have to replace it. You never even agree. With whatever they end up doing with their life. That's so true. It's a tough job. And I mean, how can one become a professional pet petter? Because I do like that activity.

And if someone wanted to pay me, I probably would accept that. I would accept that. You know, I think you just start putting it on business cards and handing it out until there's somebody like me who has a puppy that's like, can somebody else pet her for a while and whatever you charge, like I will pay it. I will just do it.

Like I will put her on a plane right now. What is the puppy doing right now? She's snoozing on my lap. Oh, she's being so sweet. Oh, she's got one eye open. She's like, I know what's up. I know what's going on. But yeah, she's snoozing open. She's like, I know what's up. I know what's going on. But yeah, she's using on my lap and like,

anticipating treats. So it's like every 30 seconds or so, she gets a tiny piece of string cheese for being good. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's right. I forgot we're bribing her. Yeah. No, no, it's not bribing.

There's actually a really fundamental difference. So when you're training a dog, you have to make sure that like you ask them to do the thing and then they do the thing and you give them the reward. Here's the difference. Bribing is you ask them to do the thing and then they do the thing and you give them the reward. Here's the difference. Bribing is you ask them to do the thing, they're like, go screw yourself, and then you pull out the treats and you're like,

now will you do it? And then that's bribing them, and that's not good. Same for kids, by the way. Fair enough. You're learning a lot. It seems to me like you're the kind of person who's gonna be good at things

because you seem to have that attitude of, I'm gonna do a bunch of research and I'm gonna do this all correctly. She is so good. Oh yeah, I feel like anybody in this day and age can be good at anything just because Google exists. Like you can look it up. I wrote a song, I've never written a song in my life

and I had barely started playing the ukulele and I'm like, hey, Wikiiki how, how do I write a song? And wiki how was like, I'll tell you in 14 steps. And I did the steps and I wrote a song. Like, you do anything you want. We forgot to tell people that you should have told them that it was a wiki how production. I can't believe we didn't mention,

this was brought to you by wiki how. I just should have, yeah. The whole podcast or your song in particular. Or your song about wiki how. Is it a wiki how I just show you the whole podcast or your song in particular is the song about how is it a wiki how song sorry Hank we sold sponsorship on the podcast I hope that's I thought that was assumed that's that's that's what I was doing that's I mean that's one way of doing it bring on our special guests and they get a little bit of benefit from it, they bring their own sponsors, it's great. Oh.

Oh. Okay, this one was unsigned, dear Hank and Jessica and Edward. My husband and I are average income people with a house and kid. My grandparents are retired and have a bit of money. When it comes to time for gift giving occasions, they always ask me where I want,

they don't like giving gift cards because they say that's not a gift. But I don't need anything in particular, we have all the decorations, clothes, candles, etc. that we might need. What is helpful would be a target gift card for diapers and groceries, a home depot gift card for home repairs or somewhere else I can get useful things. How do I explain to them without offending them, or seeming like we're broke, signed anonymous? I mean, so there are certain things that,

now John is gonna, if John were here, he would jump in immediately and say, gifts are terrible and economically inefficient. There are certain household necessities that can kind of have become giftified. I'm thinking specifically of soap. You can never really have enough soap, because soap eventually will get used and it will be gone.

And for some reason, soap has become an artisanal craft work that you can get at an admittedly elevated price, but that at least is useful, and that at the end of the process is gone and no longer in your house. That's the key, right? That's how they keep making it.

That's how big soap stays in business. No, no. The key is to ask for things that will get used in the no longer stay in your house because if you have even three friends and you have birthdays and Christmas is over the course of 15 years, pretty soon, you have way too much stuff in your house Like so much stuff. So yes, I'm such a fan of things that will go away and yeah, can't you ask for groceries? I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on on the Or diapers just that just be like I'm just super into diapers. I'm gonna

I'm just a diapers Oh I want to say like technically soap started out artisanal. It only became mass manufactured later. It originally was all just handmade. It didn't suddenly become that later. That's true, we're all going backwards. We are.

I have to say this because I feel so passionately about this. Gift cards are a gift. Gift cards are the gift of freedom. Gift cards are a gift that says, you know what? I don't know if I know what you want. I don't know if you know what you want right now, but you know what?

I'm gonna give you the freedom to have it later. Even if it's a $5 gift card, it's like, you know what? This is something free that I'm gonna be able to have when it strikes me, rather than whatever you can come up with in those six days before Christmas or whatever it might be. I love gift cards and I emphasize everyone use them and the only catch is when you use them, when you post about whatever you got, make sure you say, you know, hey guys was so cool, so and so in certain name of person who gave you gift card, got me a insert

the name of the thing that you bought with the gift card for Christmas. So that's true. No, I think that's true. I think that's the key. Go ahead. I feel like there's two separate things that happened inside of your answer Edward. And I liked the both.

Okay. One important thing was they're called gift cards, grandma. They're gifts. That's why they call them that. And then, too, you changed what a thank you card is and you didn't even notice it. That, like, and maybe, of course, maybe everybody knows this.

And maybe this is a recognized phenomenon that I do not know about. But now, thank you cards are super out of date and you would never write a note and say, thank you so much for the thing. Oh, yeah. You post about it on social media. You put out of date and you would never like write a note and say thank you so much for the Thing no you post about it on social media you put it on Facebook and you're like thanks Trevor for the pants Bonus points if you get something with the gift card that they would be mortified to know that you bought with their No, I think you should. You totally should. I cannot continue this line of discussion.

You buy steak, like your vegan grandparents give you gift cards, you go buy it like a bunch of steak. Thanks for the Omaha steaks. And this is why they don't like giving gift cards. They can't possibly know what you're going to do with it. Thanks Trevor, for these 1000 Pokemon cards that I bought. By the way, apparently Trevor is just quite generous in your world. He's given you pants.

I don't know how much a thousand Pokemon cards cost. Pants aren't that expensive. I mean, in today's market, pretty much a lot. Probably depends on the Pokemon cards. I would have seen. Yeah. If you get the really rare ones. I'm just saying you probably get a thousand swirls.

You probably get those just with a printing error. See our earlier answer. I deeply agree that gift cards are a great present and also that you should tell people the thing that you got with their gift card and in some way and to thank them. But like it is weird to be in that place where you're like, well, you look, we need diapers

and it's really nice to not have to worry about this particular diaper payment. You could also, I mean, my grandparents, a lot of what they gave my parents was stock for me or invest like bonds, savings bonds, that kind of thing. And that's like really nerdy and dumb. And I don't know, it's a little bit weird to ask for, but I think that that is a good grandparent gift

just to be like, we got you $50 of Apple stock, which it probably is impossible, because Apple stock costs more than $50 a share, or whatever, but something like that. Something that maybe, by the time the kid is 18 years old, is gonna be worth more and will be a lesson in how investment works. Yeah, it's brilliant. If somebody had bought me Apple stock when I was a kid, like I would be rich.

I think that's a really brilliant thing. So it's like, yeah, it'll be fun. Either it'll be worth like a million dollars or nothing at all. Like it's a gamble. I just, it's like a lottery ticket. I really love the idea of asking your grandparents to give you or your children's stock. If they, the grandparents don't already know how stock works. I was like, because the comments, like, I get you what? Chicken stock. You're gonna have like a lot of chicken stock.

You're gonna have like a lot of chicken stock. I guess if they really want stock, I guess they're planning on making a soup. Give me the chicken stuff. give me the chicken stuff. Give me the chicken stuff, vegan grandma. I guess it's back around to me. Now for another question, this one's from Lara who asks, dear, Hank and Jessica and Edward, I turned 16 in just a little under two months.

Well, I'm glad you got your question in before this actually happens, which means that I have to plan a birthday party. I don't know, do you have to plan it or would someone do that for you? Do you plan your own birthday party? I don't know how this works. I feel like maybe I don't know.

I don't know. The issue is I don't have enough clothes for and to throw a big sweet 16 bash type thingy and I don't want to invite more people than I'm close with. What are some birthday party alternatives for about 15 people that are still fun and significant enough for a sweet 16 pronounced like Croft Lara? I think that's how Lara Croft is pronounced.

15 people seems like a lot of people to me. I agree, that's a very big party for me. Yeah, I definitely didn't even have 15 friends total to invite when I turn 16. So congratulations on being very popular, apparently, because you have 15 close friends. Yeah, depending on where you live, what are those rooms? The... Oh, the escape rooms.

Yeah, doing an escape room would be an amazing, amazing birthday party. Plus, then you could know which friends could help you if you're really at a jam and decide which of these 15 friends to take with you on to college. It's a good one. Or which ones will be making it to college with you? I guess. I love that. I love that. I have no other ideas.

I went on, for my birthday, once I went to a water park, but I brought three people with me because that was about as much as I could manage. Yeah, no, that's pretty impressive. Yeah, if nobody's planning this birthday party for you, I would say do what you want to do. Like I plan so many parties, or I asked my parents to do so many parties,

that I was not at all interested in because I thought it was like what you should do. So at one point I had a party where my dad hired a DJ and like built a stage in the backyard, like over the sandbox. And, and, I mean, we didn't have a lot of money. He just like had his friend who wanted to be a DJ and like laid some planks of it with sandbox.

But, but the point is, so built a stage is a very, it's not like up to code in no, not at all. I'm glad that nobody stopped by to check it out. But I had I had a bunch of friends and it was a bunch of people that I wasn't that into and it was like a dance party and at the time I had no idea how to dance and not only that I would been already traumatized because I had gone from a private school to a public school where suddenly everybody knew how to dance and I'd only like read about it in books. And turns out not the same at all. And my friends had actually tried to teach me.

Anyway, I ended up mortified in my bedroom this entire party because everybody else was out there dancing and having a good time and I had no idea what I was doing. Yeah. So yeah, do something you like. That's all I'm gonna say. Do something you enjoy.

You can't do as bad as Jessica. Like, that's what we've all learned. I think that's what we've learned, yes. I feel like that was like the real life version of Belle from Beauty and the Beast. Like, if she actually, if she was real, she'd be like 16 in the room, in her room by herself reading a book.

Like if they throw a party, she does not want to dance. She has no interest in beasts. She just wants to read. Yeah, can I just have a library for my 16th birthday? Like, that would have been amazing. I'm still waiting for my library. I really want to, I really want a library someday. Like, just a whole room with books.

I just, this doesn't even have to be for the podcast. I just have to tell you, when we went and saw the live action version of Beauty and the Beast, one of the movie, one of the cool things they did that made it better is they made the moment when she starts to realize the beast is cool when she sees the library. Like they kind of did that in the Disney movie,

but in the live action, it was like, you could see she was getting into him all of a sudden. Yeah, because it wasn't just the library. It was he had read all the books in the library. And she was like, oh, my of a sudden. Yeah, because it wasn't just the library. It was he had read all the books in the library. And she was like, oh my, my kind of man. Yeah. Um, okay, so I believe it is your turn, my dear? Yeah, because before it was just kind of a Stockholm syndrome situation.

It was totally a Stockholm time. It's, it's pretty creepy story when you come right down to it. It really is. So many children's stories are, aren't they? Correct. The lady and the beast. Hansel and Gretel, I don't understand like why you would tell that to a five-room like don't wander into the woods Like you'll get stuck in an oven

Not to wander into the woods It used to be about like you know you tell these things to kids to to get them back bright. I didn't realize that yeah They're not they're not bedtime stories. They're warnings. They are all warnings Wow that just changed my childhood. That would be like if you started reading to your children at night, like caution, rocks may fall ahead. Like all the time. Or maybe some more applicable concern. Maybe we should have some caution signs.

I feel like we need books warning of not spending too much time on social media. Yeah, exactly. This is the kind of bedtime stories we need. We need bedtime stories about how dangerous it is to see your life as a series of quantified likes and shares and follows on social media. And Greta regretted posting all those photos on Instagram. This makes me think like kids in the past would not fall asleep to these stories.

They lay up all night going, oh my god, like this could happen to me. Now we're so far removed from that that that that it's like oh it's sweet. We also softened them up now. That's true. Yeah. Anyway, sorry, that was totally tight, I shall. Sophia says, dear Hank and Jessica and Edward, I remember you this time. Thank you. For a long time, I found myself clicking on Facebook or Instagram when I opened my phone, and then mindlessly scrolling through the feeds.

Usually this happens when I'm procrastinating something I actually need to do, but also sometimes I'll realize that I opened one of these apps without realizing what I'm doing. Yeah, been there. Yeah. I don't enjoy doing this, and I really wish this wasn't something I instinctively did. I opened one of these apps without realizing what I'm doing. Yeah, been there. I don't enjoy doing this, and I really wish this wasn't something I instinctively did.

However, I have this weird part of me that feels a sense of obligation to remain on these platforms because I have family members that reach out to me on them occasionally, and I sometimes use Facebook groups for school-related purposes. How can I stop using social media when everything in my life is seemingly entangled in the social internet? Any suggestions as to how you have dealt with managing time spent mindlessly scrolling would be greatly appreciated. I have no idea

Sophia I love the honesty there like I don't know help somebody else being charged my phone I mean I will literally be on Reddit and I will type Reddit into the URL bar. I on Reddit and I will type Reddit into the URL bar. I'm so broken. I'm so broken. What is like, I have like four or five automatic places to go, Twitter, Google News, Reddit, my email. That's mostly it.

And my fingers will do it without me telling them to. Sometimes even when I'm already there. I feel like that's like the alcoholic reaching onto the sink and realizing all the bottles are empty. You're like, this is a moment. I have just realized there is something wrong with me. And the first step is admitting that there is a problem. And congratulations on reaching that step.

I am not surprised if we don't start having 12 step groups for social media like really soon, if they don't already exist. But there are things that you can do besides going cold turkey. I, okay, first of all, there are apps where if you just need to be off your phone because you're busy procrastinating on homework

or something that is gonna be obviously less exciting than anything that you might find on social media. There's an app called Forest where you can plant a tree or a bush or whatever, depending on how long you want to not be on your phone, like 15 minutes, 20 minutes or whatever. If you don't need your phone, it's great because it helps with the mindfulness. You pick up your phone and you realize, like, oh, right, like I was not going to do this right now. I was going to do X, whatever else that I'm going to work on. And you can switch out of the app where you're busy growing a tree for 15 minutes, but you will kill your tree if you do so. So I like that so much.

That's so smart. And you can do the version, they have a version where you will actually get to plant real trees in real life Like you'll be contributing to actually planting trees in the real world if you build enough trees or sorry if you grow enough trees Clearly, I'm not a gardener You're dead to build stages and trees and just all kinds of things No, but it's a great app. I really recommend it. I think it's free to cheap. I'm not sure exactly, but it's really great. If you do need to be on your phone or you do need to check social media, because it is

kind of hard to live without it at this point, I heard the best tip. Oh my God. This guy had social media rules for himself or rules about using his phone in general. One was turn off your notifications. You don't need those. You're gonna remember to check your Facebook. And if you don't, it's not the end of the world. You're gonna remember to check your Instagram. So turn off those notifications and then when you go on your phone, under your social media to check things, do one round and

don't repeat it. Go through your Facebook, your Instagram, your Twitter, whatever you do, once. And then don't go and start the whole cycle over again and see if like anybody liked your posts since you posted it like 10 minutes ago. Go away, do something else for a while, like come back in an hour and you can do the rounds again. But it does amazingly keep you from just spending the whole day on social media

if you only go through the rounds once. I wanna add a tip to that actually. One other thing that is really super helpful, I've read an article once about how to make your phone less appealing because I had these X-Sync problem. They said other than things like turn off your notifications, stuff like that, they said, you can do this in your settings

in the accessibility settings for most phones. Turn it to black and white. That's so hardcore, I can't do for most phones. Turn it to black and white. That's so hardcore, I can't do it. When you turn it to black and white, your eyes just, you just don't care. Like your eyes are not the color, it is no longer drawing you in, so it just looks like copy,

and you kind of lose interest. It just, it gets boring very quickly and you can just kind of go, well, eh, I'll do something else. That's so weird that like, that we're just like of go, well, yeah, I'll do something else. That's so weird. That like, that were just like, oh, candy. This is bright, like, first. That's exactly what it is.

Because I'm just pretty much- There's a candy crush did so well. There's another one, by the way. I haven't checked it out yet, but somebody else told me about it called rocket focus. So you can actually build rockets instead of planting trees, but I think it works kind of the same way.

But I think on that one, it's only 25 minutes. So it's based on the Pomodoro technique, where for 15 minutes or 20 minutes, 25 minutes, whatever period of time, you only do what you mean to do. You don't do anything else. You don't answer a phone call, you don't answer a text, you don't check your email, you don't do anything, except the task you're intending to work on,

and then you get a five minute break. And it can help so much because so like so many of our tasks take like 10 times the amount of time that they should take just because we constantly are interrupting with other tasks and you have to switch gears. And for some of us, especially with ADHD, those transitions are really difficult. Yeah. And I think it's like it's absolutely the case that a lot of these things we cannot remove from our lives. It's very important part of how we socialize, how we stay in contact with family and friends, and also a very important part of work. Even if you don't work on the internet, the way that we do, just it's part of networking and part of being able to know what other people in your industry are doing.

So you need to be on Facebook and it's too bad because I think a lot of people would rather not, honestly. And figuring out how to use it just for the things that you need to use it for while not doing the sort of things that it is designed to suck you into doing. And as you were saying, I have a huge problem where when I post something, I have this sudden like existing recurring thought loop that's like, you should check and see what the responses to that were, make sure that there aren't any problems or you didn't say anything wrong or see how many people liked it and see if it's doing well.

And then I'm back in the feed again. Breaking out of that, it's not easy. You get the little dopamine hits every time somebody likes it or retweets it or whatever, so like they can actually become addicting in that sense. But I have seen that occasionally you do post a tweet and I'm like, huh, I guess that's a word that I just didn't know. And then like the next day you'll be like,

no, that was completely not a word that I just didn't know. And then like the next day you'll be like, no, that was completely not a word. I was totally falling asleep. Yeah. I'm like, Hank is so educated. I've never heard of this before. Yeah, that is the story of the Pipples for sure. That's what it was. That's what it was.

I was like, and I was, I think I was doing something else. I couldn't at the moment Google what a Pipple was. And so I was like, OK, well, I guess, you know, he just knows things I don't. And then I just moved on to my day. And then I saw the tweet the moment Google what a Pipple was and so I was like, okay, well, I guess you know He just knows things I don't and then I just moved on my day and then I saw the tweet the next day It was like that's just amazing and that's what it's like to be an influencer. You just right? You just invent words and then it exists Yeah, everybody's really into Pipples now. It's a whole thing. Everybody's very excited about them. Okay, so dear Hank and Jessica and Edward Sorry, we have a theme song now. Apparently we're like the three of me goes,

dear Hank and Jessica and Edward, I have a bit of a dilemma. After my high school graduation, my grandmother and I went out so she could buy me a nice watch. I've had that watch for almost a year now, but I don't wear it all the time. She always asked me about it when I don't wear it

to which I responded, I didn't think to put it on. However, I have my eyes set on a smartwatch, an Apple Watch to be more specific. My question is, should you purchase something that is an upgrade of a gift someone got for you? Best, Javier. Oh, see, apparently he is the best of all Javier. This is very hard because now your grandma's gonna see you

wearing A watch. That's not the watch. And you can't be like, why does it think to put a watch on? I did and it was a different one because the one you got me, let's be honest grandma, it has no idea what my heart rate is. This is another good person. All of these people are so concerned with other people. It's, that's amazing. This is where we cue the Ocean's 11 music

because I have the exact way you do this whole thing. You pull it off, I grab and never is the wisest. Oh no. Are you ready? Okay. This, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this It requires a fancy box. It requires a nice suit and it requires an account on whatever social media network your grandmother's on probably Facebook Okay, well, hopefully she's on a social media account Well, let's just see if not you can work this like send out a family newsletter whatever you got to do somehow get the Christmas card

Exactly you're gonna get this in front of grandma's eyes when we're the other here's how it works The first thing you do is you take you get up dressed up in the nice suit You put on grandma's watch and you pose in a photo that really features the watch You know like you just kind of like checking the time or something and then on social media You captioned it was something like looks like it's time for an outing this evening something whatever Yeah, you're really playing up the watch. Okay, you... You don't have to be cheesy. I say go hardcore. Grammys don't always get irony. You gotta go hardcore. You gotta make it clear that you're loving the watch, okay? Now, after that, you take the fancy box. You put the

Grammys watch in the fancy box. You set it on your dresser or wherever you want. From that point on, buy your Apple watch. And then the next time grandma asks, hey, where's the watch I got you? What's that watch? Where's the watch I got you? It was, oh, grandma, I only wear that for special occasions. This is just my opinion.

That's good. That's good. That's good, I'm not gonna lie. That's my judgment. It really been every one, yeah. And maybe like once a year, twice a year, do another nice watch shot on Instagram. Exactly right.

We're to Christmas dinner. And then after that, George Clooney drives up, you get in the van and you all get a waste of free. That's the ocean. I literally the best advice I've ever given on this podcast right there, it happened. Yeah, I can't talk that. And it was a lie, it was all about constructing a beautiful lie.

I will warn against doing this all the time because then again, you're going to end up, no, you're going to end up with so many things that you don't want that just sit on your dresser. At some point, you have to be willing to tell somebody like, I loved it for a year and now I'm moving on. Right. It is the hardest thing in the world to like give away like to when you're, when you're clearing out clutter, it's easy to be like, oh, I give away like to when you're when you're clearing out clutter

It's easy to be like oh, I don't know what I was thinking when I bought this That's going in the trash But you come across something that somebody bought you and you're like oh my god Like I have to keep this forever right like isn't that the rule if they are ever gonna be at my house again or see me like I have to have it You're saying you're saying half a year needs to break up with this grandmother's watch No, I'm saying I'm saying okay grandmother's to break up with this grandmother's watch? No, I'm saying, I'm saying, okay, grandmother's watch, like this sounds like a very special thing, maybe not with that, but with other things,

you have to be willing to get rid of stuff that people gave you as a gift. And that was a lesson that it took me like a decade of collecting clutter to figure out, like, right, you have to be able to do it. Marie Kondo has a really great technique for this. She does the, or she wrote the book, the life-changing magic of tidying up.

And the way that she thinks of it is this gift had a purpose, right? It brought you joy at the time that the person gave it to you. You received it, you enjoyed it. If at this point, it doesn't bring you joy anymore. If you look at it and you feel guilty every time you don't do something with it, like maybe not a watch, but like, you know,

the little, I don't know, the weird? Like, maybe not a watch, but like, you know, the little, I don't know, the weird unicorn head that sits on your desk and you put paper clips on, but you don't actually use paper clips and it's just really cluttering up your desk. At some point you go, is this serving me anymore? Is this bringing me joy? And if the answer is no, you, and this is where it gets a little weird, but she actually treats it like an

animate object and she'll thank it. She'll thank it for what it brought to her life at the time that she got it and she'll treats it like an animate object and she'll think it. She'll think it for what it brought to her life at the time that she got it and she'll let it go. And it actually works. It sounds crazy, but it works. I have a question. Yes. I have a question about this. Is the Marie Kondo method, is part of the Marie Kondo method that Marie Kondo will come to your house and explain to your grandmother why you're not wearing her graduation watch anymore. No, that's quite, that's pretty cool. Grandma's might be exempt from this particular.

Grandma's very fairly immune to Marie Kondo in her wiles. Yeah, I don't know. I kind of want to tweet at her now and be like, what would you do in this situation? How do you not break your grandma's heart? The main thing is like, I kept the watch, of course. What's that? The main, main thing to avoid here in all grandma-related gift things is you don't want your grandma to think

that you now want a collection of something. Because like, if you say like, I love that so much. And then suddenly it's like, well, every Christmas, sin birthday from now on, you're getting that one thing over and over again. You need to be very clear that this watch is the special one watch. And you're getting that one thing over and over again. You need to be very clear that this watch is the special one watch. And do you not a new like convert

to having lots of different special watches? You just want one special dressing up watch. No, that's a really good point. Yeah, some people end up with like an entire turtle collection or a penguin collection because like one year. There's nothing wrong with a turtle collection. I'll say, pitch, pitch, pitch, pitch.

There's nothing wrong with turtles all the way down. Or you could get an absolutely remarkable thing, which comes out September 25th and is available for pre-order now. Hey. I didn't even come up with that idea for the gift cards. Anytime anybody asked me what they should get for gifts, actually, a book is almost always a good gift. Like, they're like a reasonably priced thing that also like is

fairly easy to pass on to someone else. Whether that's like a used bookstore who might give you credit, we got some good ones and those in Missouri here, I don't know if everybody's got those. Or donating to a library or to other people who, you know, schools and stuff. I feel like I feel like having a new, another book in your life is never a bad thing. And also, they look really nice in your house. And I think we should all... Especially in hardcover.

I agree. You guys... And you never have to wear them on your person. So, no one will ever ask you what happened to the book I gave you. That's right. You know, I was supposed to walk around with a bookstrap to your wrist. That doesn't make any sense. Unless it's a really good clock book. With this podcast, it's actually this podcast sponsor, so I feel bad that I said that this is a bad idea. But

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to be able to do in a certain way? So we also, you do a very specific thing on YouTube with how to ADHD, so we reached out to Twitter and also got some questions specific to your areas of expertise. First of all, we're gonna ask here is from Brianna, who asks, what are your favorite ways to remember to take your medication? I'm currently using an app that reminds me and

yet I still miss days. This also is for me because I take a lot of pills and have for a long time. But you guys, what do you think? I mean, the foolproof way is to put the pills in a pillbox thing at the beginning of the week and that way if Monday is empty, you've already taken it. But I've heard other really good ways too where some people will put their pill bottle upside down when they've taken their pill. And so if their pill bottle is still right side up they know that they haven't taken it yet. The tricky thing is you have to remember to put it the other way again I guess the next day. There have been times when I've had to count my pills. So, like, I take them every day,

so I will actually count out the pills. If it's toward the, especially if it's toward the end of the month, I'll be like, okay, I know that I only had like two left, and now do I have two or do I have one? I'm not great at this, actually, to be honest. So, I'll be like, Edward, did I take my medicine? And he'll be like, yes, or no,

and I don't know, he's better about knowing than I do. But actually, my best tip now that works for me is I also have to take birth control. And so I will know if I took my medicine if the birth control for that day is empty. Well, that's good. Because I take them at the same time. That's good.

In that same way, I try and tie it to another activity that I'm definitely gonna do every day and do it right before that activity. And so I know if I've brushed my teeth, so I will make sure that I take my pills before I brush my teeth every time. And if I'm going to go brush my teeth and I haven't taken my pills,

like I form that habit that pills, then brush teeth, and then like did I take my pills? Well, my mouth doesn't smell like poop, so yes. That's really smart. That's really smart. That's actually the best one I've ever heard. So congratulations. Also congratulations on brushing your teeth every day.

Yeah, that's hard enough as it is. Oh yeah, I'm a toothbrush or man. I'm a toothbrush or I'm really I'm really worried about I've John has had so many tooth problems I'm very concerned about going through that. Wait who has tooth problems? My brother John has so many oh yes no that's right he has he's had he's I've seen like he just talks about going for a certain I was gonna say how do you know John's dental history like I understand Hank knowing, but, I've seen some of them.

What have you? They're on the internet, I don't know if you know. They talk about their things sometimes. They, you say you don't have time to help clean. I'm just saying, if you have time to know how, to know John's dental history, you have time to help me clean the house. It's all research, that's what I told the judge.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, so Melissa asks, if you made it into adulthood, adult lessons? research. It's all research. That's what I told the judge. Yeah, so Melissa asks if you made it into adulthood, adult lessons? Yes. I love that term before diagnosis. How do you make up for lost time? I'm still training my parents to take my neurodiversity seriously. How do I approach future employers or co-workers, etc? Be up front, conceal, fake, a chill exterior in interviews? Good luck. I think that's a good rule just in general. I don't know. I've tried the faking a chill exterior in interviews and I just come across like super awkward. I've just like learned to just embrace who I am and I'm like this is what you're getting. Like if you don't want to work with this like I'll move on because

I'm not going to fake a chill exterior every day for the rest of my life. So, okay, so how do you make up for last time? Yeah, this is actually really common for people who get diagnosed later in life where they feel like they missed out. They missed a lot of years. And even though I was diagnosed at 12, like I didn't know that you needed more than medication for a long time.

And so I feel like once I realized, oh, there were other things that I was supposed to be getting. There were accommodations and they're, accommodations and there were behavioral therapy stuff. I should have been getting as well. I even felt like, I'm just so far behind. How do I make up for last time? There's always a morning process that happens where you have to let that go and say, okay, well, I was diagnosed now.

Where do I go from here? We have an episode on the channel on a YouTube.com slash how to ADHD about being diagnosed as an adult and somebody who's now an amazing ADHD coach talked about it, talked about the whole experience of getting diagnosis and adult. I think it's a great video. I definitely recommend watching it and not just because it's on my channel. I literally, this, that is my story. I was not diagnosed until I was 35. And there, I definitely recommend watching it and not just because it's on my channel. I literally, this, that is my story. Like, I was not diagnosed until I was 35. And there, I'm still kind of sometimes going through that process of, oh man, my life, because I can just count all the, the near hits that I've had in my life where I've built myself

up to a certain level and then my brain would lose interest, even though I wanted to keep going. And I would just eventually just eventually like just drift away from like one major opportunity to the next. The only thing that gets me through Melissa is I just like to think of like every person is has their own circumstances, has their own situation and as such they are kind of like their own formula like an algebraic formula and they have to work themselves out. They are solving themselves over time. And you can't think, oh, what if I had found out earlier because that's not your formula?

You wouldn't be you if you found it earlier. You would be that would be somebody else that wouldn't be you. So you're you, and here's what you have. What are you going to do with it from here? Yeah. And as far as how to approach future employers and like whether to tell them or not, it really depends on your own personal comfort level. You do have some protections because it is considered a disability.

If you want to reveal to like the HR department that you have ADHD, you can also ask for accommodations, which you don't have to be like, Hey, I have a disability, I need accommodations. You can go and say like, Hey, I have ADHD, this is what it means for me. These are a few things that I personally struggle with and these are things that help me work at my best. Like if I can wear headphones or if I can have an office where I'm not facing the water cooler

and like hearing everybody talk or whatever it is. That doesn't even have to come up in the interview. That can be once you've got the job, hey, here's how I work best. That's not a case. Yeah, technically you can even get accommodations, like especially if you're dealing with something like dyslexia, you can get accommodations even during the interview process.

If you want to have like a verbal test rather than a written test, you can ask for that, but it really depends like most people prefer not to reveal it until they get the job, but there's two ways you can do it, right? You can either let them know, I have ADHD, this is what it means for me. And these are some things that would help me.

Or you can say, hey, I have challenges with, you know, I get distracted if, you know, if there's a lot of noise around, would you mind if I wear headphones? You don't necessarily have to reveal the diagnosis. You can just reveal one of the symptoms that you need help with. But yeah, it's just, it's a really personal thing.

But what I wouldn't count on is anybody understanding what you're talking about when you say ADHD because there's- It prepares like a long conversation. Yeah, you have to let them know what it is and how it's affecting you because most people think, oh, well, isn't that the thing where like kids are just bouncing off the walls and don't do well in school?

And you have to be like, no, actually, you know, there's the intended presentation. Like if you have that, like, you know, I actually am not gonna be bouncing off the walls and don't do well in school. And you have to be like, no, actually, there's the intended presentation. If you have that, I actually am not going to be bouncing off the walls. Or I don't need a trampoline in my office. Unless your job is like trampoline tester, in which case, I will be bouncing every day, sir. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Our last question from Twitter comes from Hennine, who asks, how do I deal with my sister's mood swings due to her ADHD? She gets very anxious and sometimes I don't know what to do other than hug her until she's calmed down. Are there any coping mechanisms that I can share with her? Oh, that's a good one.

First, awesome on you for understanding that the mood swings are due to ADHD, because not a lot of people know there is emotional dysregulation that's a major part of ADHD. And most people don't know that. I didn't know that. I have ADHD, I didn't know that until I started doing the research. So awesome. And, ah, you're such a good sister.

She gets very anxious, and sometimes I don't know what to do other than hug her. I mean, whatever works for her, it's gonna be different for everybody, but yeah, it can just be helpful to give somebody their space. As far as coping mechanisms, there's, depending on how old she is, like behavioral therapy or cognitive behavioral therapy, can help her learn to deal with that, one of the best coping mechanisms is just to breathe, like teacher breathing techniques and meditation can

help. Yeah, mindfulness and meditation can help a lot too. There's an app called Headspace that can teach you how to meditate, even if you have ADHD, because they're very short sessions and they walk you through it. It's really, really easy. Meditation is kind of something that most people

they'd each year like allergic to when they first hear it because they think you have to sit still and like clear your mind. But that's not what meditation is. Like I'll fidget sometimes during meditation and that's okay and like my mind is very rarely clear. I heard a great thing actually in yoga today, the teacher said meditation is not

so you can control your mind. It's so you cannot let your mind control you. So you're still gonna have these thoughts that like float in and out of your brain, but you don't have to chase after them. You can start learning to let those thoughts go. So yeah, I definitely recommend meditation for people with ADHD. And also, movement is so helpful for people with ADHD, whether it's dealing with emotional

dysregulation or impulsivity or hyperactivity, like moving. I thought it was the meme. I'm seriously like, I usually do a lot of research right now I'm quoting a meme. I'm seriously doing this right now. But movement stills the ADHD mind. I am never as much at peace as when I'm going on a walk or a run or whatever, like sitting still,

I can just stew, right? But yeah. I'm also throwing glared bottles or really good go-go Glitter bottles are great. They can be. Yeah, calming bottles. Yeah, I call them, oh sorry, calming bottles, yeah. Yeah, it's depending on her age.

I'm looking at what this is because I've never heard of it. It's really cool. It's essentially like a like a plastic bottle that you put, I think you put water and there's some other fluid in as well or just water. There's clear glue, water, and glitter. That's right. And you shake it up really hard. And so it's like turmoil, right? And then like a snow globe kind of thing.

You watch the glitter settle. And as the glitter settles, it actually calms down your nervous system. You're literally watching, it's almost like watching a physicalized representation of your own anxiety, slowly coming to rest. It's really nice. All right, you guys. Let's do one more question before we wrap it up. your own anxiety, slowly coming to rest. It's really nice.

All right, you guys, let's do one more question before we wrap it up. This one's from Brian, who asks, dear Hank and Jessica and Edward, I, in the event that I become famous someday, should I have an autograph that's different from my signature? And if so, what are the different criteria

for an autograph versus a signature? This is a very important question for which I required to be as advice, as I'm not clairvoyant and therefore have no idea whether or not I will be famous someday. Brian, well I think they're the same thing, but I also think that preparing to be famous one day is a bad plan. It is not going to be like what you think it is going to be like. No. Yeah, there turns out there's a lot more to it than autographs. Like autographs are the least of most people who's famous concerns.

Can I just say that when I, I will say to Brian's question directly, yes, please do your autograph separately because I didn't know that. And I just was signing my check signature for a while. When I first started just every time. Is there a dip, is, was that? I totally signed my check signature.

We might have to cut this question out of the podcast if that's not okay. Yeah, I mean, I signed my check signature ever to the really cautious. I only have the one signature you guys. Don't you have like a 10 minute video if you just signing it over and over again? That's like, no forger has ever been given

so much research material. As I don't feel like the signature is that all an important part of the security mechanisms of a check anymore, but maybe it is. No, it's really not. You can sign anything. They don't care anymore. Unless maybe if it's your last will and testament,

they'll be like, this is actually a signature. That's a point. But yeah, for most things, I don't think they care anymore. All right. Okay, well that explains why I did not experience like I did after I took a film on tour. I will give you advice for in case you become famous someday. Whatever the signature is that you use, make it short.

Because your hand will get very, very tired if you get really like Disney elaborate with it And also don't try to be famous someday because that it's super It's just it will eat you in your heart. Don't do that. Just go just go find just go find something You really love and just do it a lot and you'll be famous where you won't be it doesn't matter You'll you'll have a great time. That's all I was saying. I wanna know. There's all kinds of great ways to be. I think there's all kinds of great ways to be well-known and supported or not and whatever you end up doing,

but I think it turns out that the people I know who are happiest in there, a success, are famous not with the whole world, but with a small group of people who are cool. And that's the way to do it. It's like my, I have a friend who is a somewhat famous lepidopterist, which is like people who study butterflies. But only if you're like a lepidopterist, only if you're like really into butterflies, do you know who this guy is? And he's very happy in his world writing

butterfly books and chasing butterflies and talking about butterflies with butterfly people. It sounds lovely. No, that is the best way to be. Because it's the kind of famous where you can go someplace. If you need validation that day, you go to a butterfly convention and everybody loves you. And then you're walking down the street just having dinner

with a new girl that you're not sure you want to tell your parents about yet. And you don't have to worry about paparazzi telling them for you. That's true. You just have to be careful that the butterflies don't recognize you. That's true. You just have to be careful that the butterfine has don't recognize you. That's the only discomfort. You might get the mark by butterfine.

That's the main concern. That would be difficult to explain to your date. There is a PS. It says, I thought of this question because I watched Hank's 15-minute video where he signed pages for his book, An Absolutely Remarkable Thing, which comes out September 25th and is available for preorder now. And by the way, if you want to get a signed edition, there's a limited number of signed copies. I just got news actually that they're running low on Amazon.

Some of the other bookstores have more and they were also available at physical bookstores when they come out. So we've set aside a bunch to go into physical bookstores, but if you want to get one on the internet, you might wanna do that soon because it sounds like they might actually not be available on the internet. Because there's only, I can't,

I can only do a certain number because it turns out my signature is pretty long. It was a huge mistake. But thank you, thank you Brian for the promotional opportunity and thank you Edward for reminding me of it. Hey you guys, this has been a great podcast. I really enjoyed it. Usually we end with news from Mars and AFC Wilmedin, but obviously we did a different thing today

because we are going to put this one in the can and have it come out late. But thank you for recording so that we can be ready for all of the future outages that we will have. But you guys, tell me what we learned today, if you remember it all. We learned that purple has an advocacy group. Oh, we learned that you can, in fact, order artisanal diapers. Apparently that's a thing, that's true, yes, that's true.

And they come from Artisia. And we learned that maybe everybody has a vegan grandma who's gonna get really offended by your steak purchases. And finally we learn that you can learn how to do absolutely anything on WikiHow. Such as write a song. About WikiHow? If you'd like, that's meta. Writing a song about WikiHow, using WikiHow. You're doing it.

Yeah. Oh man, that's what I'm doing right now. That's what I'm doing right now. As soon as we end the podcast. He gets to it first. He's like, yeah, wiki how about wiki how? I'll call it wiki what? Oh God, this is actually, I think I may do this. I think this this might be my whole vlog. Wait, wait, wait, if you're going to talk about wiki how Edward found a game that gamify his wiki wikipedia. Yeah, I can't, I don't

yeah, oh, I don't know if I want to tell you this because like everything you're doing might shut down. That's true he has a child. Should you have a child as well? We should not do this to him. It's called the wiki game. If you look for it's basically it's you trying to connect to disparate subjects in the shortest number of steps as fast as you can through Wikipedia. It's it's insanely addicting and all the the ads go directly to Wikipedia. Man, this Wicked Howl article on how to write a song is great. So many good illustrations of people

who seem like they're just having a great time by Fretland with himself or with friends. This one has a really weird, this was a bunch of musical notes on this one, except there's one giant hook. I don't know if that, is that it's about the hook you got a look for the hook Oh anyway Anyway, that's my that's my vlog for this video. Let's talk about it because I don't want to spoil everybody or

This is gonna be awesome. You just have to you have to call it wiki wiki what? Right, oh and even better if you use Even even better if you use even even better if you use how to write a love song that's the one i use it was fantastic how to write a love song specifically for wiki out that's a video right there it's it's names is so yeah it does alright you guys thank you

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