Dear Hank & John - 179: The Queen's Dream Job (w/ Danielle Bainbridge!)

Episode Date: March 4, 2019

Should I pretend to dislike my sister? How do I not put too much pressure on my dream job? How much salt does it take to mummify a person? And more! Keep learning from Danielle in Origin of Everything! If you're in need of dubious advice, email us at [e-mail]! Join us for monthly livestreams and an exclusive weekly podcast at patreon.com/dearhankandjohn.

Hello and welcome to Dear Hank and John or in this case Dear John and Danielle. I'm here with Danielle Bainbridge. Hi. Hi John. How's it going? It's going pretty good. I'm excited to be filling in for Hank. Some may call it taking over Hank's life. Yeah. I think that this is a soft rebrand to move the vlog brother's brand. I think it's a really an idea. Every time we had a kid, we would have guest hosts for like six weeks. Sometimes I think maybe we should just do that every year, like we should just take six weeks off.

Maybe it'd be good for us. And also, I think our viewers might, frankly, I mean, I think they probably get tired of us. If you don't know Danielle, you should go to Origin of Everything, which is an incredible YouTube channel from PBS Digital Studios that we help produce here in Indianapolis, Sheridan and Zuleah at work on that and they do an awesome job. Origin of Everything tells us a little bit about it, Danielle. So Origin of Everything is a YouTube channel that discusses our shared history and the undertold narratives that pin that story together. So the topics range from you know

histories as broad and kind of as dark as racism and slavery and government imbalance to things as kind of quirky and offbeat as why do we popcorn at the movies. All of them have interesting narratives and it's about getting people interested in how history has a really active role in our lives. Yeah, I mean, origin topics go from what is ethnicity to what's the deal with middle names to why do we have laugh tracks on television to why do we drink milk in school. And I just I love the breadth of the show. I also love the respect that you have for your audience. And I just think it's great.

So check out Origin of Everything. That's the last plug of the entire show, except that my book turtles all the way down is available in bookstores everywhere. And anytime you need a t-shirt, you should go to dftba.com. All right, let's get into some questions from our listeners. Oh, wait, Danielle, before we do that.

Oh, wait. We usually save the Mars news for the end of the show, but I feel like we got to do the Mars news up front because it's very sad. And I just think we've just got to get it out of the way because it's dark and these are dark times. Dark times, especially if you're a Mars rover, especially if you're the Mars Opportunity Rover,

which tragically is deceased. It is no more. It has ceased to send messages back to Earth. It is gone. Its last message was translated somewhat poetically by a reporter as my battery is low and it is getting dark. Which are not bad last words. Oh no, I feel like I almost want to be hearing Aretha Franklin call me right now.

It's just a plaintive whale to someone who's left. But that's a bad way to go out. I feel like my last one will be like oh my god I slipped and it'll be over. Yeah or just like uh yeah yeah some kind of moan so it is it's nice good last words. I agree with you about the Aritha Franklin and I would be playing it right now but we cannot clear those rights. Oh my god please. No I mean she's very that's a that's a high tear. I mean how do do you think she played all those shoes at the viewing? Do you know that she didn't have a will?

Wow. She didn't have a will. Well, neither did Prince. Guys, make a will. It's the theme of Dear Hank and John lately. Dear Hank, John and Danielle, sorry. I'm not sure. I don't want to lean too heavily on that, but... Dear Hank and John and Danielle, this first question comes from Melinda,

who writes, Dear Danielle and other people, but mostly Danielle. My boss doesn't know my name. I thought one day this issue would fix itself on its own because my email address is my name. My slack name is my name And many other people in the office do know my name. I thought maybe one day He would hear them say it and the beauty of my real name would ring true into his ears But alas, I have worked there for five months and again today he called me Melissa not Melinda. Oh, what do you do? So she, I have already forgot, she's Melinda, that's her real name. Her name is Melinda. No. Wait, no, it's, oh no. It's Melinda. We're part of the problem.

We're part of the problem. Her name is Melinda. Real Melinda. Okay, so I think first and foremost, how important is it to you that this boss knows your real name? Right. Because I've worked in places where very higher ups and I was very low down did not know who the hell I even was until I was in the room and then never learned my name. And I wonder if it's okay if you're okay with that.

Depends on the office structure. If you plan to be there for a long time, I would just tell him directly to his face, like, hi, it's Melinda. Yeah, it's possible that he thinks Melissa is a more formal form of Melinda that he thinks he's being restrained somehow, you know? Like instead of calling someone Rick,

calling them Richard, maybe is Rick sure for Richard? I believe so. I thought it was a full name. I don't know. I've heard dick for Richard. Now I'm in trouble. I don't know. I don't think we're good at names. I will also say anecdotally that in other countries where Danielle is a name for mostly men that people will steadfastly call me Danielle no matter how many times I correct them. Right. And so sometimes I just roll with it because I'm tired of trying. Yeah, I've rolled with Jonathan a few times in my life, just been like, you know what, there are fights worth having and this isn't one of them.

That said, if you're boss and you're in a company of like 10 people, Oh yeah, that's amazing. And your boss doesn't know your name, you have to correct them. And it's hard and it's going to be a little bit of an uncomfortable situation. And that's why I would have one of your co-workers do it. Oh, I would tell you one of your co-workers, hey, listen, can you go in and tell David that my name is Melinda. And he needs the stop calling me Melissa. And and and then co, then it's on your co-worker and then your boss doesn't have to like,

it's much less embarrassing, I think. Oh, that actually is a good idea because my thing was just let him call you the wrong name until you quit. So that wasn't real advice. I mean, it depends on how much you like the job. I also will say that my examples were mostly places where I worked in like hospitals.

And there are thousands of employees, there are hundreds of employees, so I just kind of let it be. And I'll just be like, okay, well, they'll never learn my name and people are dying here. So maybe I should simmer down. Yeah, I definitely felt that way when I worked in a hospital.

I would be like, well, I'm not really the center of this. Yeah, I know. In the back room, you're getting paper cuts and someone else is opening someone's heart. Right. And you think, I'll just continue with this. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to be the protagonist of the children's hospital, but I really wasn't. I never did, because I would get extremely anxious whenever any of the different codes and

alarms went off. Oh, yeah. And I thought, it's a good thing that I'm not a part of this, because I felt pieces almost immediately. Yeah. Yeah. It's a weird stressful job. I admire people who work in hospitals for longer than six months because I definitely couldn't. Yeah. You're welcome for solving your problem, Melissa. We are always here for you. Wait, her name's Melinda though, right? That was the joke. Oh, damn, walked right on it. Okay, well, you know, I tried.

Okay, this next question comes from Skyla, who asks, Your John and Danielle, my sit-turn, I get along relatively well. We find ourselves sitting on my bed or on my floor, talking and laughing about things that happen throughout the day, and this is really nice. But it does not happen with other friends who have siblings. With those friends, they often talk about how annoying their little siblings are. The only issue is that I don't find my sister annoying. To be honest, I find her rather good company.

My opinions of my sister are quite opposite from theirs. I'm not sure what to do, should I lie and say that my sister bothers me? Should I just present my opinions regardless of who I'm talking to? Should I steer the conversation away from sisters? You're most utterly confused friend, Skyla. Well, I mean, you could do it, John did, and replace your sister with someone cooler. I'm just saying Hank is gone. Hank is dead, long lived, and yo.

So that's like just gonna open with that. I'm not saying that it's your only way out, but there is a potential for that. I also have siblings, and I was really drawn to this question when it got sent in, primarily because I have two siblings who are very different. Both of my siblings I wanna open with are very cool.

They were cool when they were kids, and they're cool now. But my sister was two years older, and was like cool in high school. And so that was never something I was embarrassed about because hanging out with Kim was like a privilege that my friends were eager to have as well. They were, you know, one of my friends just got married and right before her wedding she told me that my sister taught her to dance before our first sixth grade dance. And she was like, that skill set, I will take it to my wedding. And I was like, the kind of dance

that she was teaching with you, you should not do it your way. You should do a different kind of dance. You're buried now. But, you know, like Kim was cool. Like she had a lot going on. My little brother is almost five years younger than me and we were exceptionally close.

But it is a little bit odd as like a 16 year old girl to explain to your friends that you have an 11 year old best friend who's a boy and he's your brother. I think what you need to learn at this point in life is that I'm imagining you're quite young. Is that at the age you are? Whatever age that may be, you want to be a lot like your friends and you think that having the same experiences is the only way to empathize with them or to connect with them. As you get older, you'll realize that empathy is kind of a more complicated emotion. We're essentially like, uh, John is wearing a hat. I'm looking at this hat, and I could say,

John, that hat looks nice on you, but I have no desire to either buy or wear that hat because I know it will not fit my head because I have a very large head. So when you have emotions like this, you could say, oh, I empathize that you find your siblings annoying or maybe you have conflict with them. I don't have that same conflict, but I could understand where you're coming from. And if you could say it to them in that way, most of your friends will respect you. And if my friends could get used to the fact that I always invited an 11 year old boy to our high school parties, your friends could get used to your sister hanging out with you.

Yeah, it's such an important relationship if you can keep it healthy and adult- I don't know if you're twins, you can't be twins, you never share a wound. Well, probably not at the same time. Yeah, okay. But they might have shared this- the same location. Maybe just at different errors. It's like living in a house, then you move out of someone else's museum. Move into the house when you have an immediate connection.

So that because you still have the same house. You kind of shared the same house. That's true. You can like hand me down close. Your idea, I don't tell you like hand me down close. I feel like it's getting weird. But I'm going to do a next question. This was from Elizabeth, right?

It's dear John and Hank. I'm very lucky that I recently got hired for my dream job. Like the job I have wanted since I was three or four. This is of course extremely exciting, but I do have one very small worry. I've been dreaming about this job for decades, and now I'm afraid I've built it up way too much in my head. You probably have. For being honest, how can I come to think about this as just a new opportunity and not the opportunity that I better not waste? And if it doesn't work out, how do I not see it as it's all down hill from here?

Thank you in advance for Majesty Queen Elizabeth. I wonder if it actually is Queen Elizabeth and if so, what the dream job is that she's been dreaming of for decades. Maybe. She's finally got that work opportunity she's been looking for. Prince Philip retired from public engagement. Maybe she's taken on some of his things. Maybe that's what it is.

Is she now the Duke of Edinburgh? Maybe. She's like, oh God, being Queen of England has been great, but what I've wanted this whole time was to be the Duke of Edinburgh and now's my chance. She's like, I'm going to ascend by falling. She's like falling down, but still falling. Oh, I'm not sure. Well, it's not. I don't know. Because life isn't about achieving more power or more money, it's about finding your dream and your niche and maybe for Queen Elizabeth, that's being the Duke of Edinburgh. To take over. Now I'm wondering, is he, he is the Duke of Edinburgh?

That was his title. I don't know. I don't know. Is he definitely alive? Because if not this bit, it seems really, really cruel and heartless. I mean, he's definitely alive. I know that for a fact, because they haven't been like weekend of burning him around at these royal weddings that have been happening and like baby bursts.

Like he's been there. I've seen it. Let's hope not. I don't know. Now I feel like I'm doubling down. First off, he is the Duke of Edinburgh. Yes. Second off, he is 97 years old and an excellent health. Okay, good, good, good, good. God, man, I'll tell you what, if Prince Philip does in the next five days, we're going to

look really bad. I'm, this is an extraordinarily ghost of us. Maybe we should answer her question. You go first. Okay. I have a little bit of experience with this because I remember when I sold my first book, and it was an extremely small deal in the sense that I wasn't able to quit my job or whatever.

All of my friends used to make fun of me and say that I had a four figure book deal, which was true. But it was my dream. It was my dream to write and publish a young adult novel. I was with my dream publisher. I had thought about that, you know, for a really long time. And I was really, really scared that it was also going to be the only book I got to publish, which often happens. And, you know, like a lot of times people write books

in their good books and they get good reviews. And then they just disappear because there are a lot of books and not that many people who read. And I was really scared about that and I remember thinking a lot about it and I had this great uncle who wrote one novel and never got to write a second novel and I worried that somehow I was like, you know, inhabited by his ghost or whatever. But of course, that's not true. And also, if I hadn't gotten to write another novel, I would have been able to do other things. I think one of the problems we have is that we often think, like when we talk about what are you gonna be

when you grow up or what are you gonna do with your life, we imagine that you're only gonna be one thing or that you're only gonna do one thing. And of course life isn't like that, you know? I mean, you end up doing a lot of things and some of them you do professionally and some of them you don't do professionally, but there you have to kind of,

my brother always says you have to diversify your identity. Like you have to see yourself not only as one thing, like if you see yourself just as a YouTuber and your YouTube influence declines, it's like catastrophic to your sense of self-worth. But if you're able to diversify your identity and understand that you're also a brother and a father and a son and lots of other things,

then an AFC Wimbledon fan and whatever else, then it becomes less of a devastation. And I really do believe that. So that's, I guess, what I would encourage you to do. But congratulations on the job. Take a second to enjoy it. Toast yourself. Well, I also have long dreamed of a job,

which was to be Hank on Deer and John. And I have also been long haunted by a ghost, whose name is still in the title, but we won't mention him, so we'll move on from that. So I think that sometimes your ambitions could be conflicted, your sense of self. But all kidding aside, I will tell one kind of like overly poignant story about this. So when I was a very little kid in second grade, I had a teacher who was probably one of the most influential teachers I ever had. And she taught me about poetry and taught me about writing.

And at one point, I wrote a poem about waves in the ocean. And she said, you should be a writer. And I remember this had this huge impact on my life. And she said, what do you want to do when you grow up? And I said, I want to deliver her babies because I thought that there would be nothing better in the world than to like watch babies get bored all the time at a very abstract view of what to do.

Sure. Yeah. tastes to her baby. That's a second-grader's dream job. I know. Well, in my head, I imagine that like, because doctors were always very clean when I saw them. So I thought like, you were like, wear a little jacket and then just like, hold babies at different points in the day. And then moms would come up and like, be your mom kind of.

Sure. As well, I have a mom and I love moms. So like, I thought that I'd be like hanging out with moms and babies. So that was like my big dream for my life. And then she said, William Carlos Williams was a poet and a doctor you could do both. This was like the revolution of my seven year old mine.

And I recently got the job that I had been dreaming on for a really long time at Northwestern. And I rediscovered my second grade poetry book, and I opened it, and my bio was Daniel Bainbridge, isn't third grade, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then the last part, and she was born in Manhattan, and she wants to be a doctor and a public writer one day, and I just started weeping.

And I was like, whoa, what a great artifact to find that I realized I dream I can't deliver babies, but I do have a PhD. So people do call me doctor sometimes, depending on if they want an extension on their paper, not in. And it was very weak. Yeah, you are a doctor and you are a writer. Yeah, and so I sat on the floor and I was like,

well, this is stupid. You're crying on a job that you haven't started yet. I think that part of it though is what John was saying. It's like, you know, think of yourself as divorced from your job in a way. So think of the skills you have as transitioning and moving with you in other spheres and other places. And think of it as an opportunity to express those skills. So if the job no longer exists or you move on from it,

that you don't feel as if that dream died because I graduated second grade and I'm still doing the things I wanted to do. Hopefully I graduated second grade. This would be a weird time to find out that I was the second grade. I'm like, they take away your PhD because it turns out that like deep in your transcript,

there's an issue there like, your dissertation was great and Magna Cum Laude and everything that's lovely, but unfortunately, yeah, you didn't finish second grade. So, the yarn would just, the one string gets pulled and the whole, what would it be? What do you make from yarn? Hats, that's probably, yeah.

I'm not super familiar with knitting. But yeah, that is a common anxiety dream of mine that it will turn out, well, because I feel like an imposter in all facets of my life, that it will be revealed somehow, you know, where it will turn out that like I was unquamifying for something that I claimed qualification for, like all those Congress people who lie about having served in the military, or whatever, I always worry about that. Like what's coming for me? Like did I graduate from Kenyan? Maybe not.

I do get a little paranoid about that sometimes. Sometimes I wake up and I'm like, did I plagiarize something? Well, yeah, that's a great answer to your where it's like you think that you've read something before and then just rewritten it as if you've never seen it. Yes, I got super worried about that yesterday, actually. I wrote this vlog by this video and I wrote this line that I liked and then I wrote the line

and after writing the line I was like, that's not mine. There's no way that's mine. And so I googled it and there was nobody who'd said it that way. But then I was like, I'm probably just like rephrasing something and I, yeah, I got super paranoid about it. But I couldn't, I mean, I couldn't find anybody else who'd said it, so I think I'm clear, whatever, bringing it up in Dear Hank and John is not gonna, Dear John and Danielle is not gonna fix anything, because then now people go hunting. Don't go hunting.

I don't feed the sharks. I'm so afraid of plagiarism. I even worry about plagiarizing myself. I, as well. Like, I feel like I've got to acknowledge if I wrote something, like whenever I write Anthropocene Reviewed Episodes, they're always like

partly taken from vlog brothers videos and other stuff I've written over the years. And I feel like if I ever publish them, I'm going to have to like write a list of like all of my sources for my thought. I don't usually look back. Maybe that's like a personality trait. I'm like, I'm overly nostalgic.

So then I'm ruthless in writing that I never want to circle back. But then it means that our conclusions are usually another episode started So it's good though instead of right, but you want to be you want to build build people toward the next thing That's true. You want to be like wait till next morning more. Yeah, oh next week on origin No, we said no more plugs. Sorry. Yeah, but it you should check it out I would say it's youtube.com slash origin of everything, but it's not but there is a link in the show notes There is just go in the show notes. There is.

Just go to the show notes. We have a relevant question actually from Francesco who writes, dear John and Danielle, how do I get YouTube to be more interesting again? I've noticed that it's much harder to get lost in video holes than it used to be. Whenever I watch videos, the recommended next videos are mainly stuff that I'm already subscribed to, or that's already been recommended on my homepage, or even that I've already watched, or only one or two videos be related to the one I'm already subscribed to or that's already been recommended on my home page or even that I've already watched or only one or two videos be related to the one I'm watching. This makes it harder to find new things.

Do I log out of my account and start fresh? Puppy's and Parmesan, Francesca. Two things I like. Yeah, how do you find good stuff on YouTube? Okay, so a couple of things. This is something that I struggled with in my tea consumption recently, like physical tea, my cousin who's British, very British, came to visit me and noticed with a little bit of disdain

how much honey I put in my tea. And she was like, you know, she'd, I'm not doing a British accent because I have pride. But like, should you be drinking that much sugar every day because you consume an incredible amount of caffeine on top of the sugar, like maybe you shouldn't be drinking that much sugar every day because you consume an incredible amount of caffeine on top of the sugar, like maybe you shouldn't be doing that. And I said, well, you know,

it's gotten to the point where I'm drinking so much caffeine that I need a lot of sugar to even taste it. And she told me to basically reboot and start from drinking plain tea and then build up again. And you could actually decrease how much sugar you need by starting fresh. And it's kind of a similar thing, Oprah said this once, once she was on one of her weight loss trends that you should salt your food right at the end, and so you could reduce your salt intake. So basically by like eating less of that thing.

So if you, I know maybe this is not the thing to say as someone who has a YouTube channel but consume less YouTube and it will seem immediately more novel. Right. Or, and I kind of like the idea of the reboot in the sense of we're gonna just drink some tea without any sugar in it. That's the point.

Just deleting a bunch of your subscriptions or logging out, although unfortunately now Google tends to still know who you are, no matter what. Like, I recently got onto a different computer, not logged in as myself, and I saw a video recommended to me that it could only have known about, there's only one way it knew about it, which is that it knew that it was me. But anyway, I find the same thing. I often have trouble finding new stuff on YouTube, or I binge watch a single channel, and then I'm like, what now?

Especially now that I don't use the social internet. By the way, that is a world record for how long I've ever gone without talking about not using the social internet. That was a sound defect. I don't know if it'll translate. Oh, it's great. Well, yeah. world record for how long I've ever gone without talking about not using the social internet. That was a sound defect. I don't know if it'll translate. Oh, it's great. Well, yeah. So, I have a hard time with YouTube's recommendation engine right now because I don't think it's not working for me. It must be working for lots of people because they wouldn't use it if it didn't increase watch time. But it didn't increase watch time, but it is decreasing my watch time and I'm spending more time on YouTube

because I need something to do with my brain that's a distracting, that is not Twitter because my computer won't go there. So I am really struggling with this as well and I don't have great recommendations, except to say like in person a lot of my favorite YouTube channels I find out about from people like in person which is so weird and it's so antiquated but the human recommendation engine is so excellent we are so good at sharing stuff with each other. So for instance there's this YouTube channel Primitive Technology where this guy in Australia using only

like tools that he has fashioned himself from sticks and stones is slowly working. He just smelted iron. Oh my god. He's like soon he's gonna make a personal computer. He's like three years away from achieving some kind of like separate civilization from scratch. It's amazing. I, okay now I'm into it. Yeah, he, he farms, it's an incredible show, but I heard about it from a real person.

And you are hearing about, for instance, origin of everything from a real person. And I just think like that stuff is, it, YouTube one day it will be really, it will be better at recommending than it is now, but until then we have each other. That's true. IRLs, still the way to go.

If you can try to start another account, I did that recently, but I also will say it very quickly, at least in my experience recently, it's been like over promoting already super popular channels. Right. And that is kind of been a bit of an annoyance to me because I feel like the things that trend are like the same 10 or 15 channels who are already like really well populated, really well subscribed. And I already have been watching. So I don't need another recommendation to watch tasty. This is no shade to tasty. You're still good. I still enjoy you, but I don't

want another recommendation to taste the video because I already walked them, walked them on every platform. So I'd like to see like more independent and small creators get promoted more regularly. So yeah, I'd like to see that too. Which reminds me in fact that today's podcast is brought to you by smaller and independent YouTube creators, smaller and independent YouTube creators, check them out.

And this podcast is also brought to you by Prince Philip, still alive, still kicking, doing okay. I'm sorry to his entire family. Alright, we got another question. This one comes from Hannah who writes, dear Danielle and John, I'm currently at a ballet performance of Romeo and Juliet. And during intermission, this nice looking lady sitting next to me just casually asked

her friend, how much salt does it take to mummify a person? Definitely not something I was expecting to hear today, but now that we're on the topic, how much salt would it take to mummify a person? Definitely not something I was expecting to hear today, but now that we're on the topic, how much salt would it take to mummify a person? Do you even need salt at all? Best wishes, Hannah. Um, there are a couple different ways to mummify a person. I'm not saying this because I've done it. But you can use salt.

You can use salt. Salt is one of them. The Egyptians used a mix, this weird mix of salt and baking soda and something else that's related chemically to salt. And I don't know how much they needed, but they did need some. So I'm thinking of it now, and like I'm not trying to put myself forward as any expert on mummification or on human biology. Go, no, this show is all about making speculation sound authoritative.

Um, I think so. This is based off of a flight I recently took to Oregon where the only thing on the like in flight entertainment was criminal minds, a show that I admire because I like to think about abnormal psychology and serial killers. And so there was an episode where they were mummifying women by putting them in the floorboards and covering them in salt and then sealing up the floorboards. Oh my God. And then they came to the house, I mean, it was a long flight, so I watched both parts of the episode.

So they came to the house and this police dog came up to the dorm, and was like going crazy. And the police officer was like, oh my God, this dog's going crazy. And then Joe Mentech now, who's, I guess the lead, he turns to the camera, he goes, he's not going crazy. He's just overwhelmed. And he peeled back all the boards and all these ladies who are covered in salt

are like dropping out of the wall. Oh, God. Oh, no. Based off of this extensive. How is that on network television? It's been on network television since like 2001. Oh, I find that so upsetting. Yeah, and so based on this extensive research

of an episode, a two-part episode that I watched on a flight to Oregon, you need about two big bags of salt, like what you would put on your driveway. There you go. I mean, that sounds very like you know exactly what you're talking about. You've watched 88 minutes of criminal minds on this topic.

With no interruptions, with no commercials, because you know, it was in-flight entertainment. That's the great thing about the plane. Yeah. All right, Danielle, we've reached the point of the podcast at which we talk about the news from Mars and AFC Wimbledon. I'll go first so you can think about what you want

your news from Mars debate. AFC Wimbledon. I'll go first so you can think about what you want your news from Mars to be. AFC Wimbledon, America's favorite third-tier soccer team, has done okay, actually, recently, which is surprising because we have been very bad. But the last three games we won two of them. We beat Rochdale, four to three. It was a thriller. The fourth goal, the winning goal was scored in the 95th minute. Penalty, definite stone-cold penalty, scored by Joe Piggit. Great game. Very stressful, but good. And we also beat Wallsall, which pretty good result for us. Then we lost Charlton. If we'd beaten Charl Charlton which again we didn't so I am Engaging in hypotheticals if we'd beaten Charlton we would have Maybe been close to not being

Definitely relegated, but again we didn't beat them so currently despite those two wins in the last three games AFC Wimbledon are still in last place not only are they in last place? they're they're a win and a draw away from being in second to last place. Not only are they in last place, they are a win and a draw away from being in second to last place. And currently we need about six, seven points away from not being relegated. So 12 games left in the season, is it possible to not be relegated? Yes, is it likely? No, we need to win seven of those 12 games, which would be a better result than we've had in any 12 game stretch in... I don't know, four or five years, so I don't know. It's very likely that we'll be relegated, but hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul and

sings the tune without the words and never stops at all. What's the news from Mars? Um, it's good so far. I don't know. I don't know what's the news from Mars? It's good so far. I don't know. I don't know what's happening up Mars. I'm so stressed out. I don't know. News from Mars, when I was a senior in high school, me and my friends dressed up as the Sailor Scouts,

I was Sailor Mars. That is great. Oh my God, is that true? There's photographic evidence. It is absolutely 100% true. And I can name all how many were there? I think there were 11 Sailors Council, 11 of us. Wow.

Yeah, we came to school dressed that way. It was a lot. Wow, that is a lot. We had a steadfast dedication to our fandom and our moms all made the costumes. So there are 11 moms who deserve trophies. I mean, God bless those moms. God bless those moms.

That is legitimately, it's extremely nerdy. All right, yeah. Which is a compliment. I know, that was a compliment. I was super proud of that costume. I had no right to be proud because it was my mom had to do the sewing, but I was proud of myself for making her do more work.

Right. After her work day, as an extremely busy woman who works in a hospital. That's kind of the definition, I think, of being an adolescent. Yeah. You have no concept of time. You don't have a great concept of what your parents' lives are like.

Or you shouldn't have a great... If you have a really good concept of what your parents' lives are like, usually it's a very stressful situation. That is true. I didn't even really appreciate that my parents slept that often until I was like maybe 20. When my kid was born was the first time I was like, oh, this was work. I always just felt like that it was a privilege for my parents to be in my presence. Lucky mom and dad getting the hang out with me every day,

getting to change this diaper over and over again. I know. Yeah, but no, it turns out that it is both joy and work. Danielle, thank you for potting with me. It has been such a joy. Everyone check out Origin of Everything. It is as charming and fascinating and lovely as you would expect. And thank you again to Danielle for being here today. And thanks to all of you for listening.

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And I'm excellent at the community tab on our YouTube page, which is youtube.com flash PBS Origin of Everything. There you go. YouTube.com slash PBS Origin of Everything. I cannot really be reached by social media. I don't know if I've mentioned that to y'all before. So only two for an hour, That's a lot of the compliment.

That's pretty good for me. For everyone here. This by the way. Oh, word Facebook. Oh, it's that everyone's last observation. No, those will actually be their last words. Oh, I'm on Facebook. That actually will be the last thing that happens to me as I fall to the floor because I tripped on a banana peel and I'm on Facebook lights out

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