Dear Hank & John - 225: It’s a Hit and They Get Kicked (Live From St. Petersburg, FL!)

Episode Date: February 3, 2020

How can I find time to do all the things? If I smack someone with my lower limb prosthetic, am I kicking them? What is the oddest combination of food you’ve seen someone eating? What if I love something everyone hates? Did you ever consider throwing in the towel? When do you figure out how to solve adult problems? What do I do about my leg’s fart sounds? How can I appear older in a room full of high school students? How do I convince my spouse to move for my improv group? John Green and Hank Green have answers! If you're in need of dubious advice, email us at [e-mail]! Join us for monthly livestreams and an exclusive weekly podcast at patreon.com/dearhankandjohn. Follow us on Twitter! twitter.com/dearhankandjohn Subscribe to the Nerdfighteria newsletter! https://nerdfighteria.com/nerdfighteria-newsletter

Hello everyone, John was super sick during our regularly scheduled recording time this week, so instead, here is a live show that we recorded in St. Petersburg, Florida, the location of my Alma Mater Eckerd College, so I spent a lot of time in St. Pete when I was younger. So we went back with my brother and my wife. We had a wonderful show, and here it is for you, Dear Hank and John, live in Saint Petersburg. Hello and welcome to Dear John and Hank! Or is I like to call it Dear Hank and John?

I knew I wasn't going to ask forever, but it was wonderful while it did. Hi, I'm John Green. This is Hank Green. We answer your questions, provide you with dubious advice and bring you all the weeks news from both Mars, a cold dead rock in space. And AFC Wimbledon, the single greatest achievement in human history.

Woo! Woo! John, an important question about Florida, for Floridians. Why are the winds and hurricanes so fast? I mean, I have, I'm already disappointed. Because if they weren't very fast, they would be slow-likanes. Because they hurry. I get the joke. What I was just approving of was the crown's approval.

Just encourages him. This is it, yes. Courages him. They're on my side. Do you want to hear my note? John sent me one this week. He was like, hey, what about this one? I was like, not good enough.

Henry and I read a whole joke book together. And oh my God, I mean, they made Hank's jokes look like works of genius. And there was however one quite good joke in it. Why didn't the crab share his toy with his little brother? Because he was a little shellfish. It's cute and it's funny. That's how you write a joke, John. You look at a joke book and steal it. There's anything we've learned.

We should answer some questions from our listeners. Do you want to do that? This first question comes from Tavon, who writes, Dear John in Hank, my question is, how can I find the time to be an avid reader of books, a frequent listener of podcasts, a master's degree student, and a good citizen of the world. These are all the things that I love to do and it always feels like I'm neglecting one to become immersed in others.

My seat is in Row F. Hi Tevon. Hello. This is for Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. I don't know actually where. This is for Cheers. Cheers. I don't know where actually we're row F is. Yeah, no.

I don't know the answer to this question except that some of these things can you do them at the same time? Yeah. So part of being a good citizen when you live in Montana, less so in Florida, is shoveling your walk. And it's great audio books and podcasts while you're shoveling the walk perfect If you do that here, by the way people look at you super weird You come out with the snow shovel every Tuesday and you're just like got to get it off

You know how it is But yeah, yes double down. I think that's one solution Uh-huh And the other thing is that sometimes in life you have to prioritize, and there ends up being things you can't do, and that's OK. You can be a good citizen of the world without being an expert in everything.

You don't have to become equally informed in all fields to be a good citizen of the world. Or to tweet about everything. You can be completely ignorant of issues and still tweet about them I've discovered. No, it seems actually that not being an expert, but having a strong opinion is kind of like the Twitter secret sauce.

So one thing that you can do, Tevon, is to not be an expert and just like, and actually understand that. And I think that that's something that I work on and then I think that like, in this world, we're sort of all asked to have opinions and be editors of the newspapers that are social media feeds that like it can be as if we are being asked to be experts or that we have to assume that we are or have to claim that we are and it's very good to not be and to shout to the world that I am not and that I am listening to people who know what they're talking about.

After a year and a half away from the social internet, which by the way stopped the clock on how long it took me to mention that I'm not on Twitter anymore, after a year and a half away from the social internet, one of the side effects for me is that I realize that I don't have a strong opinion on almost everything. Like when I hear something that's like almost definitely good news, I'll be like, that's probably good news, but you know, let's wait. That's good news.

Let's see what Tuesday brings. This was a great week for in the moment being like, I don't know what this means, but I'm definitely freaking out. And then being like, well, I was freaked out. Am I in, is it all OK now? I don't know. I missed all of that. By the way, I just read the newspaper and there was sort of a daily update about everything.

This? I just read the newspaper and there was sort of a daily update about everything. This next question comes from Cheyenne And Elizabeth, an A11 and 12. Hey, you guys, you want to dance for me? Thank you. We're two friends that go to UF, and I assume that this is Go Gata, because it looks like Go Gata. And we're wondering if Cheyenne were to take her lower limb prosthetic and smack someone with it. Would she be kicking them or hitting them? We've posed this question to many a person

with no definitive answer. So we look to you to settle, settle this debate. Well, there's something that we are experts on. Yeah. You've come to the right people. Things that mean nothing. Yeah. That are purely semantic.

Yeah. And that will never have any relevance because of the unlikelihood of this overall scenario, right? Like, I don't know you. I could have been. Oh, Cheyenne, how often do you hurt someone? Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, Cheyenne, how often do you hurt someone? Oh, okay. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. So, I guess, so the thing, the thing that is real is that you might have to say, I will hit blank here. Or kick here. Yeah. And you won't, because you're not that kind of person, but you might be in a situation where you have to say the sentence. That's a good point.

And what would then be reported to the judge? Like if we're in a court of law. It's a hit. It's a hit. It's a hit. It's a hit. It's a hit with a foot. What if we had a person come up to this stage,

and John took my leg and hit someone else with it. But I wasn't in control, I was unconscious at the time. I've gone unconscious. Someone comes on stage. I hit someone. Someone, I hit my leg. Yes, that's wrong. That's a hit.

That's a hit. I hit someone with your unconscious leg. Absolutely. But they were, but they were kicked. Nope. Nope. Oh. You hit them. But they were kicked. Nope. Nope. Oh. You hit them, but they were kicked. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Bought is legs. But Bought is also butt. Yeah. Both and? Yeah, yeah. It's a hit, and they get kicked. You're welcome.

All right, we got another question. This person wrote in to say, dear John and Hank, they're sitting in C27. Wrote in to say, dear John and Hank, what is the oddest combination of food you've stumbled on someone eating? My son was eating pancakes recently and he finished them.

And then my father, for for some reason gave him some smoked salmon. And I witnessed my son take the smoked salmon, put it on the fork, run it through the syrup and eat it and then go back for more. And I was like, I don't know. So I tried it and it was good. I mean, yeah. I think we don't do enough dessert fish. I feel like maybe we do enough overall fish that we don't need to be like introducing new forms of fish into the concept of nutrition.

Yeah, no, more, we need to eat more flesh, John. Yeah, whatever I am. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, more meat products for dessert. Yeah, it's been a struggle for Steve. Yeah, I mean, yeah. The problem is not Steve. The problem is humans.

Right. Yeah. One time, this actually inspired something in paper towns. One time, when I was living in Orlando, Florida, I was at a publics. It was very late at night. And I was purchasing beer, which is a reasonable purchase, you know, at that time. And the person in front of me was purchasing instant vanilla pudding, one container, one can of Campbell's tomato soup, and a live lobster.

And I was like, you know, like that guy is going to go home tonight and he is going to eat a new dish. Like, there have been 93 billion of us. And this guy is going to do something genuinely novel. The thing is, like, he's bought two of the least expensive items in the grocery store. And one of the most expensive items. Why don't I spend 60 bucks on a lobster? That's the thing that makes no sense about it. Because like, you separate out any of those combinations

and I can kind of make sense of it. Like maybe he's making some weird lobster bisques. Yeah, I know, yeah. But why the pudding? No, no, no, no, no. Why the pudding? Maybe he was going to feed the pudding to the lobster. Oh, that's dark.

That's some flawed, grott darkness right there. I don't like that at all. We need to move on. Back when I was in college. Back when I was in college. Here in St. Petersburg, Florida, we used to throw chicken parts into the brackish pond. I was telling a professor of mine this earlier today.

We would throw a chicken leg into the pond, and if you pulled it out slowly, a hundred percent of the time there would be a blue crab on the end of it. Then we would put that blue crab into a steamer, and then we would pull out another one. And this is just like, I don't know how clean the ponds were at Eckerd College back in 1999, but we did eat a lot of those salty peppery, steamed crabs. We never fed them vanilla pudding. And I can't help but think maybe we missed something.

I can't help but think maybe we missed something. I can't help but think maybe we missed something. All right, we're moving on. We're gonna move on to a different question, and unfortunately, it's still about animals, but thankfully, different kinds of animals. This question, and it was courageous of you to include your name in the question, and I applaud you for that,

because many people have submitted an autumn of his questions, but you came out and you told us, right, right that your name is, I believe, Leyland in C-C-25. Oh, thanks. I'm glad I got it right. I practiced beforehand, so I'm glad I nailed it. Leyland writes, dear John and Hank,

recently something amazing happened. I got to see the movie adaptation of Cats. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! I have loved the musical since I was a kid. What should I do when I seriously love something

that is so widely hated? Oh! Do I continue to love it unapologetically? Do I devote my life to try to explaining to people what a pelical cat is? Do I write a paper defending my magical Mr. Mr. Philees? I can't finish the sentence.

It's better than run Tom Tigger, as what it says there at the end. Brum Tom Tigger, I'm sorry. I don't know very much about that. So I have this question first. Yeah, I'm not familiar with the musical, only with the unbreakable chemist Schmidt parody of it, which I found wildly enjoyable.

So if it's anything like that, it's great. Look, you love something that millions of people hate, right? And they define themselves by hating it. And there are so, like, we live in that era. We live in the era of defining ourselves by what we hate and by what sucks and, like, by figuring out what sucks and all hating it together. And we decide, oh, this art is unworthy and gross and it's a complete failure. But, like, I actually think that of the things

that have harmed the universe in the last like eight weeks, like the Cats movie is incredibly low on the list. You know what I mean? Like Hank pulling a blue crab out of that pond was way worse for the universe than the Cats movie was as far as I can tell. And you like it. And God, great. God bless you for, I think we should all like something that other people hate just so we can know what it's like not to be on a bandwagon. Yeah.

The other thing is that I think that it's part, like I think it's part of having good taste and like having your taste be established that sometimes like the thing you love runs counter to other people's interests. Yes. And that's like part of knowing who you are. And it's a great sign to be able to be like, oh, I like a thing that other people don't like. You can look at that and examine and be like, what's different about me in this circumstance.

But the main thing to know is that like you get yourself in a way that some people like it's hard to. So that's fantastic. Also, from the clips I've seen on Twitter, it seems amazing. A little upsetting though. Here's my example of this. What's yours, John? I'm sure you have one too, Hank. So there were these three children's movies made called Madagascar, and they're about like zoo animals that escaped to various wild places, and then the wild animals are like, you're not like us, and then they have to find a way to love each other. Every single one of these three movies existed for only one reason, which was to allow for

the eventual creation of the greatest children's movie ever made, Penguins of Madagascar. The fourth Madagascar, okay? It is such an accomplishment. It is such like a tremendous accomplishment about what life is like in the Anthropocene and about what we value and where the limits of our power are. And Werner Herzog is in it and he is an amazing film. And if you go to IMDB right now, you will see that 75,000 people have voted on it

and that they have voted it lower than every other Madagascar movie, each of which is crap. And so, like, these people are just mistaken. And, like, that is my aesthetic and it's important for me to know what it is and to be able to defend it. And like, now you're in a great position because you will be constantly defending your aesthetic because lots of people disagree with you.

This next question comes from Patrick. Patrick and P30. Hey guys, I was wondering, after 10 plus years of producing various content, was there a period when it was extremely hard to get through and you considered throwing in the towel? Can you tell us about that moment? Patrick says, tell it. Experience for us on a stage in front of 600 people, you're worst.

I mean, I considered throwing in the towel last night. There have been a few times for me. I mean, so part of what, so this question presumes that there wasn't a time when I threw in the towel and you just didn't notice. And there have been times when I threw in the towel and you just didn't notice. And there have been times when I threw in the towel and you just didn't notice because I was able to carefully arrange for you not to notice. In 2015, I was in a really bad shape,

mental health wise and had like three epically bad months and then three, like fairly bad months during which I was able to make very little. I made a vlogbrothers video every week, but like, you know, the whole week was kind of oriented around that, like, you know, that one day of work. I've never not wanted to make vlogbrothers. Like, my motivation definitely ebbs and flows,

but I know when it's waning that that's part of the cycle. Yeah, likewise I've never wanted to throw in the towel on like Nerdfighteria. There have been times when I've wanted to be like YouTube, I'm done with you. What happened to this? And I think that's partly nostalgia, it's like the bad kind of stuff. I mean, it was looking back at a time when it was different and thinking that it was better when it was just different.

Yeah. It was bad. It's always been bad. It's always been bad. It's always been bad. For sure. And I think that there has been frustration in that way with sort of like how I imagine myself as part of a creative community,

but not as how I imagine myself as part of like a creative endeavor with my brother. There have been times when I've wanted to throw in the towel on other things, of course, and have. And I've had a number of things that we've started and really wanted to succeed and that they have failed. And then I try to bring back Truth or Fail over a fifth time and it still doesn't work. And that's okay.

And so like part of that is like the thing isn't working. And then sometimes I really, yeah, I do realize that I've signed on for too much and that it's not so much of throwing in the towel, it's a what are the things that actually matter? What are the things that are going to enable me to be a functional person and also be happy? And so it can sometimes be easy to take for granted the things you should be prioritizing in your life. And that's almost always the people that you care about. And in the moments when I've wanted to throw in the towel, it's usually been because I haven't

been prioritizing the things that matter more. Right, same for me. I think 99% of your happiness in life is, for me, is relational and is based on the health of the foundational relationships in my life. And when I feel like I'm neglecting that, I'm right, I'm correct to be concerned about that.

But I want to say something else, Hank, which is that you talked about how you've brought back Truth or Fail six times and it's failed six times. And that's true. And I look forward to reminding you of that when you call me about the seventh iteration of- I've got my DS. Of your hit game show Truth or Fail. But what it made me think about is that I would like,

I would like just to ask the people here to make sure, because many of you will be alive after we are, to make sure that Hank's tombstone reads, only, creator of Truth or Fail, and inventor of 2D glasses. I don't know that they're gonna be the ones in charge of that. They will. They will.

And you're getting buried in St. Petersburg, whether you like it or not. I don't know if you've ever told the story. Can we tell the story? I have the same, are we thinking the same story? Yeah, I assume so. Yeah. Don't want about dying. Uh-huh. Yeah, okay. So, I don't know if I should tell the same story? Yeah, I assume so. Yeah. Don't want about dying. No, huh? Yeah, OK.

Yeah. So I don't know if I should tell the story to an audience of Floridians, but I'm going to. It wasn't St. Peter's book. It wasn't in St. Peter's book. So years ago, I was at a Harry Potter conference and I became quite sick and I had to go to the hospital. And I was in the hospital and they were like,

you're going to have to stay at the night. And this is potentially quite serious. And I... So we had left this Harry Potter Convention and it was somewhat of a hurry. I came out, we went to this hospital and the doctor was like, you know, we're gonna want you to stay the night

and hang with me. And I literally grabbed the doctor's wrist. And I said, I do not want to die in Florida. I grew up here. I grew up in Orlando. I said it with love. But I did mean it. And the doctor said, I don't think you're going to die.

And I said, well, I don't think I'm going to die either. But I'm just telling you now that if I am going to die, I want you to put me in an ambulance and take me to the Georgia line. All right. After this question, we're going to take some questions from the audience. I'm going to call some people down. But first I'm gonna ask a question from Renuke or Rounak. Sorry.

As a 19-year-old stuck somewhere between childhood and being an adult, when does one reach adulthood and learn how to deal with adult problems? You only, high. You only learn to deal with them by dealing with them. It's terrible. There's only, it's like, how do I figure out how to do this? And they're like, just do it. And you're like, I don't want to tell me.

And they're like, just do it. Do it bad for five years. And then do it good for the next 55 before you die. I have a very different take on that question. Because I just remember, like, A, it was new, but B, I felt like kind of congenitally unqualified for adulthood. I still don't know how to fix things in the house.

Or like, there's lots of things that I just don't know how to do. Lots of adult things that I don't think I'm on the cusp of finding out how to wire in a new sconce. Or even really knowing exactly what a sconce is. Don't do electrician stuff. This is one I told you. No, no, no, no. Hanks advice is basically just do electrician stuff really bad for five years. And then you get good at it. And I think that's bad advice. I think you should not do electrician stuff unless you go just do electrician stuff really bad for five years. And then you get good at it.

And I think that's bad advice. I think you should not do electrician stuff unless you go on to electrician stuff. School. Yeah, don't do electrician stuff. Okay. I think that I've learned. I think that you become adult, an adult, the way that you become a lot of things, which is like slowly and sort of without noticing it.

And it's only when one day, in my particular case, it was an event rather than a process in the sense that I was putting on a pair of pants, a pair of khaki pants. And I said to Sarah, I feel like I look like a middle aged man in these pants. And Sarah paused for just like a little bit too long. And I realized it wasn't when I became a dad.

Yeah, it wasn't when I became a dad. It wasn't when I got married. It was when I put on a pair of pants and I looked like the middle-aged man I was. That I knew I was an adult. All right, who's got the first question there? Hello. Hello.

It's Jarell, not Gerald. That's okay. Everyone butchers it. Great name. Yeah, my dad says I was named after a character in a book. He never confirmed whether it was a Superman comic or not. It sounds like it. All right.

So what do we got? So my question was, over the last eight months, I've had a series of procedure. I got an amputation to better my life, and I got a new, very fancy prosthetic. And I'm pretty, you know, low-key right now, with jeans and all. Yeah.

But I do have one problem, though. Whenever I shift my weight on it a little bit, it totally sounds like I fart. So it's like... Can you do about, provide an example? Does it happen every time? I can replicate it pretty easily. Oh, it's like a little one.

Wait, hold on, I could do better. Yeah, no, that sounded like a nice little fart. That sounds like a fart. And so the situation is that you, that you're like sometimes farts and that people are then going to assume that it was not your leg. Correct. How do you, yeah, but of course is legs. So, it's really all the same to me personally,

but. Okay. The. The page doesn't recognize the distinction. That's a, that's a far, a far, a far, a far, a far, that's just what it is. So how, like how is the question what to do or how to it, like should one explain the situation.

Sorry, no, that was my leg. Gotta have a sign or a card that you just, you should have a card. Just business cards are very cheap to print out. You should get a card. You should get, I once met a very tall person in the South of France, and I noticed that he was handing someone else a card, and so I asked if I could have a card. And he said, yes,

and he handed me a card, and the card explained that he was very tall. And he had played basketball in high school, but not after that. And that he was done growing and that there were no concerns about his height medically. And I thought that was a wonderful solution. And I've also heard sometimes of famous people having little cards that they give people where they like answer all of the questions, you know, where it's like, David Tennant-Hansley, a card, and he was like, yes, I enjoyed being Doctor Who.

It was a blast. I am no longer Doctor Who. I am not Doctor Who in real life. I'm not a time ward. I like the idea of the card. Yeah, you know, and you kind of know, if you notice, people notice, you can just pull out the car and be like, I didn't fart.

That's all that's that's, I didn't fart. That was a- It's never useful when you do fart as well. You know? Oh, thank you very much. Thank you. Much appreciated. I'm glad we could help.

Who do we have? Hello, this is Owen. Hello, Owen. Thank you very much. Thank you. Much appreciated. I'm glad we could help. Who do we have? Hello, this is Owen. Hello, Owen. Hi. So I was just graduated from college in May and in my first year of teaching high school. And so one problem that arises due to both my young age and my young face is that I look about the same age if not younger than many of the students that I teach.

And this both makes me self-conscious and sometimes causes some weird authority issues in the classroom. And so I am seeking dubious advice as to how I can appear older in a room full of 15 and 16-year-olds. Could you give me the name of a 15-year-old? Just what's a good... what are they named these days? Sebastian. Sebastian, you can...

That's a great name. Sebastian particularly troubles him. Yes, yes. I could tell. Yeah, I got Sebastian pegged. I know that guy inside now. I know everything about him already. So Sebastian, there's a certain amount of authority issues

where it's just like when Sebastian, you can just be like, Sebastian sit and just treat him just like, get him to sit. I don't know if you're sitting up, but if you're your thing is to treat them like Donald. Yeah, you know, you gotta show him. Roll Donald. Like little, yeah. Yeah, you know. You gotta show them. Roll over.

Yeah. Give me your paw. Shakes of action, Jake. Right now. I'll give you a treat. Yeah, funky ties. Maybe get the elbow patches. An elbow patch or two? I don't know, probably two.

Now that I think about it. And three, put one on your back, a couple on your knees, one on the back of your head. Yeah, many, yeah. So I think the way you dress matters, but I also think, so I had a 22-year-old teacher when I was in high school. And I mean, it's inherently weird.

I'm sure it was super weird for him, but he was a really good teacher. And I think that the relationship was kind of inherently different, but there were also upsides to that, right? He understood a little bit more about my culture than most of my teachers did. Like he was able to relate historical narratives to the present in ways that like, you know,

my teachers in their 80s weren't able to. So like he had a different kind of like authority. And I guess the thing that I would just say to you as an encouragement is that like to me because he was just even though he was just a few years older like he seemed so cool. He knew everything you know like he knew so much and so that's where your authority really comes from frankly is, is the fact that you know so much more than the day's too much.

About whatever you're teaching. Like, I remember one time I was walking around with my very smart young, my best friends, incredibly smart young child. And he said, you know, JoJo, I know more math than you do. And I said, no, you don't. And he said, yeah, I do. And I said, no, it's annoying. And he said, yeah, I do. And I said, no, it's annoying.

I don't want to do this, Coleman. And he said, I do. And I said, all right, Coleman, what's the square root of four? And he said, too. And I said, all right, what's three cubed? And he was like 27. And I was like, oh, f***. I thought it was nine.

That's three times three. Damn it. Coleman! You do know more math than I do. But you're not in that position. Yeah. So that's whism. I hope to God.

They don't help before you. All right, I think we were not helpful. Thank you. I've got one final question from the audience. Hello, sorry, I made less not. I love your shirt. Are you wearing non-pizza with left beef? Yes, I am. It's a funny face.

My favorite meme turned into my favor. Thank you for wearing my face on your torso as well. I appreciate it. My honor. My name is Becca. Last summer, I toyed with the idea of doing my PhD and for three months. I was in a very quiet space all day long all by myself. So I started taking an improv class at SAC Comedy Lab in downtown Orlando. Yeah.

I've been there. And it is like the most wholesome uplifting group of people. It is the most one I've ever had. There is no going back. I have to do it forever now. But when I run out of classes in July, the only way to keep doing it is to make the ensemble. And assuming I do that, I will have to do shows on weeknights

and driving back to Cape Canaveral at night is very scary. How do I convince my husband to move toward land? Oh, so you've done with commuting. You're done with, where are you now? Wait, where are you now? We're in a little town called Rockledge. We both work at Kennedy Space Center. And what's going on with the PhD?

Well, also, I got a lot of questions. Yeah. I mean, there's not, I don't know if you know, but there's no, I go first. OK. What's going on with your life outside of the comedy troupe? It dropped the PhD. What happened with the PhD was my master's advisor was fantastic And I wanted to keep working for him

But then I started the PhD and it was wake up coffee four hours of math lunch four hours of math Yeah, and it was too quiet. I was yeah, I would have been great at that as you could probably heard earlier My husband was calling my improv class my extrovert support group So yes I heard her, I'm here. My husband was calling my improv class my extrovert support group. So, yes. And so, did you say you were both working at the space center? Yeah, it would be the same drive. It's about an hour.

Oh, so you're still commute to work from Orlando? OK, because I was like, there are no space centers in Orlando or anywhere else. You're going to commute to the space center from Orlando? It's a while. It's a waste. Our drive is already an hour up US one. This would just be an hour on 520.

Oh, man. Florida life. But we share the drive and we have podcasts. I mean, I worked in Orlando in my commute was 45 minutes from my house in Orlando to my job in Orlando. So. This is. Yeah.

Here's what I'll say. And believe you me, I am not getting in the middle of a marital Conversation about where to live for the rest of your life, which is a huge decision You're not in the middle of anything. He's just finding out about this now. Oh great Orlando is really Um, Orlando is really, and like nobody is more surprised to say this than I am cool. Like Orlando is a wildly different place than it was during my childhood. In fact, like Lake Eola was only sort of like tamed in like 1986. Like I was in elementary school the first time

like Lake Eola had a sidewalk. Yeah. Orlando finally got the gators out of it. Yeah. Orlando is such a cool town now and there are so many great neighborhoods there and there are so many like, there's like record stores and like even like, we're-

Raffed breweries. Yeah, like we're- Our friend of mine from high school runs a weird like fancy deli. I'm just like Lexi you up you have a fancy deli. Yeah, they got like you are an anarchist. Yeah, you know anarchist got to eat Hank. They got to have governments but they got to have food. Points.

Uh yeah, I just I mean so that's what I would say. If you're commuting an hour anyway, Orlando's a pretty cool place to live. They have an MLS team, I believe. It's pretty great. So do what's right for your family. But yeah, I mean- The thing, like a decision like that though, the only thing I'd say is that like we made a big decision for different reasons, but a somewhat

similar decision to move to Indianapolis from New York where we had been living. I was a little reluctant to move to Indianapolis for Sarah's passion because I just didn't want to live in Indianapolis. It turns out I love it, and I'm very happy there. But in order for us to make that move and me not kind of, me not kind of like resent the fact that it was happening, we had to, like, come to a real deep consensus where it was our decision, not like I'm the trailing spouse and I guess I'll go along with this decision.

Because then it's so easy for resentments to build up if you don't keep those communication lines open. So good luck, it'll work out regardless. And if worse comes to worse, start an improv troop where every user finds themselves. Oh, bang. Let's talk about the world's favorite third-deer English soccer team, AFC Wimbledon.

Oh. AFC Wimbledon are clinging to their third-tier status currently 19th, 19th, and league one. Only Only that still we've still got one relegation spot between us in real relegation. So we're in good shape for now. Hey, can you want to, can I go to a website real quick? Yeah. So, uh oh.

It's fine. Everything's fine. OK, so the cool news, the, Nope. They didn't expect me to say. Oh, all right. Look at that. That's AFC Wimbledon's new stadium at Glow Lane. For 25 years, Wimbledon fans have been singing, show me the way to Plow Lane.

I'm tired, and I want to go home. I had a football ground 20 years ago, and I want one of my own. And they are building one owned by the fans. It is obviously not finished. Also, we don't have the money to finish it. That is a problem for tomorrow. The reality for today is that we are closer than we have ever

been to being back in Wimbledon, where we belong, owned by our fans, and certain to stay in that community forever. So it's really, really exciting to see that progress. and certain to stay in that community forever. So it's really, really exciting to see that progress. And the news from Mars, I didn't know we were doing the news segment because we usually don't during live shows. So I have note that Mars 2020 Rovers looking great. It just looks so good.

I follow some people on Twitter who got to go and look at it, and they seem very impressed. I actually have news from Mars. Oh, God, I'm such a failure. I know because I've gotten kind of into Mars as a result of this podcast, I now get a lot of, I have a personalized news feed at the Google, and I get a lot of Mars news, and there was a study that came out, Hank, that said that Mars is losing water

much quicker than was expected. Did you see this? I have heard something about it. What I know is that the hydrology of Mars continues to be a big mystery, and we are learning things rapidly. It's very weird. It's very weird. it's very weird. These methane blooms are very weird.

Mars turns out to be a weird, active place where things are happening, but we don't really know which ones yet. We need to get there and go there and learn. But regardless, again, we are so, so grateful to you for being here with us tonight. It's been really fun to come back for Hank and Catherine to come back to where they met and fell in love and to see that place

again. And for me to see that place, because I also, I remember like when they were, you know, first falling in love and I remember coming here for Hank's graduation and so it's really nice to be back here all these years later, finally feeling to a point to a question asked earlier, like maybe I am a grown-up. Thank you for listening to our St. Petersburg episode. Our live show coordinator is Monica Gasper. This podcast is a co-production of Complexly and WNYC

Studios. It's produced by Rosie Yana Halsey-Rohas and Sheridan Gibson, edited by Joseph Tune a Mettish, and our head of community and communications is Victoria Von Jornow. The music you're hearing now, and at the beginning of the podcast, is by the great Gunnar Roller,

you can email us at Hank and John at gmail.com, and as they say it, our hometown. Don't forget to be awesome. Bye guys. Thank you.