Dear Hank & John - 39: Feelings Are All Right (with Katherine Green)

Episode Date: March 16, 2016

How do I overcome pizza betrayal? What's the deal with sesame seeds? How do I solve my sibling ball crisis? What do I do in Montana? How do I deal with my driving anxiety? And more!

Hello and welcome to Dear Hank and John! Or as John likes to call it, Dear John and Hank. It's Catherine! I'm Catherine Green. We're here to give you some dubious advice, answer your questions, and bring you all the weeks news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon. It's gonna be so good! How are you doing, Catherine?

I'm alright. It's starting to be spring here in Montana. Mm-hmm. So... How do you recent visits from Taylor Swift? No, no. Um, I don't think she knows that Montana exists. Sure she does.

Yeah. Sure she does. I bet. If she needs to go to mountains, she's like over there in the Swiss Alps or something. I bet she's here right now and you just don't know it. She's just living a hot lifestyle. You know who is here right now actually? Anger, Nielsen.

Really? Yes, she's down near Bozeman. What? That's what I said. I was like, I see how it is. Oh my goodness. I mean, Bozeman's pretty far away. It's not close.

It's really, you know, it's like one of those things where you're in Ohio and you didn't tell me that is a completely different thing. Yeah. Then being in Montana. No, it's a lot of Montana. But what's you doing in Bozeman? I don't know. Some thing.

Yeah. Important. Yeah. Cool thing. I'm sure. Well, I think we'll see here when we're in LA soon. So that'll be good. Like. We'll fingers crossed

Wow, but I bet I bet Taylor's here too. I feel like I think she is. I don't know where she's at You have a feeling I do I do I have a feeling I was yeah, the Taylor Swift is in the area is nearby No, I don't think I don't think you're right Cosmically she's nearby She's closer than she could be She works if she was in space. Yeah, she's not in space. She's here on earth. Yeah Just like all the other earthlings right for the most part. Yes. It's a very very tiny tiny percentage of human earthlings Who are not here on earth. And they're still very close.

They're real close. I, yeah, I recently, I found out that oftentimes the space station is closer than lots of places on earth. So like if you could see the space station overhead, it's much closer to you than like Florida. Sure. Yeah, or anywhere on the other side of the globe. Yeah.

Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. Even if you could go straight through. Yeah. Still closer. Like the people on the space station are closer Definitely. Definitely. Yes. Even if you could go straight through. Yeah. Still closer. Like, the people on the space station are closer to people most of the time than people in

like New Zealand. It's a really big planet. You could be, yeah. It's a big planet. It's a big planet. It's round. And the atmosphere is very thin. It is very thin.

Precariously thin. Yeah. Hairifyingly thin. Yes. Yes the atmosphere is very thin. It is very thin. Precariously thin. Hair-affyingly thin. Yes, yes. I'm getting anxiety. Let's stop talking about it. All right. How am I doing? Is the question.

Oh, how, and how are you also doing, Hank? I'm good. I have a little bit of gas. That's pretty much constant for me. I just don't even talk about it. You know, I think I might unbutton my pants. Yeah, you should be comfy. Yeah, I gotta make up like myself comfy.

What's that face? That was me suppressing a burp. Oh. Oh. Of course. Oh, this is already better. This is already more comedy than any deer hankajon. Nobody wants to hear that.

I don't know, Katherine. If you could let one or two go, people would really enjoy it. We'll see. And I also, on my Tumblr, I made a critical statement about the song Cecilia and the satellite. Oh, god. It wasn't really a critical statement, even. I guess, traditionally critical.

It was a joke. Well, it was a bit of a joke. And also, I actually feel like if I was a songwriter I would have played it different, but of course that's fine and Like different creative people make different creative choices, but yes I was just talking about how I feel that the metaphor would have been more powerful without the addition of End you or the sky yeah, because satellite implies a two-body system in which one thing revolves around another.

That's what a satellite is. Anything that revolves around it. That is what a satellite is. Yes. Yes. And the moon is a satellite. And I was like, what a beautiful thought. And then he says, and you're the sky.

And that just messes the whole metaphor up for me. Yeah, because what even does the sky mean? Yeah, the sky is the thing that we see from the earth. So who is the third impartial observer that is observing both he, the satellite, and she, the sky? Is it me, the- Those people are just like, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, and hangs like, wait a minute.

The other- What do you mean when you say sky? We were watching Agent Carter last night, and there was a periodic table in the background, and it didn't have any of the atomic weights on it and I was like what is even the point of that periodic table? Yeah, it's a beautiful drawing. It's just for art. You can look up nothing of interest on this. Pretty colors. I don't know. Matt useful. Yeah, I had a whole point to think. I had to point out to Hank that the Marvel Cinematic Universe is not based on science. Yeah, I did.

I did. What did I say? Oh, they were talking about this photon beam. Oh, God, no. And that, and yeah, and so they're shooting up a bunch of photons. They're using words that science has made. Yeah. But they don't mean what science makes them mean.

But then they're talking about how it's going to travel in a parabolic arc. Oh yeah. And I'm like, why would photon, they're photons. Fastness. They have no masks. They're not going. I mean, they're very slightly parabolic arc

due to the distortion of space time by the gravity of Earth. Sure. That is the only, but that's not going to matter on the scale of your amenin. No of Earth. Sure. That is the only, but like that's not gonna matter. Not on the scale you're aiming in. No, no. Uh, yeah. Anyway. So I sometimes, I am sometimes that guy.

Yep. And I don't want to be that guy. Well. And several people on Tumblr criticize me of being that guy. Oh, well, yeah, I mean, you kind of are that guy, but you know, it's, you're not doing it maliciously. No.

No. It's just, it's just, but like when Neil deGrasse Tyson is that guy, sometimes I'm like, oh, come on. Just have a good time. But then I'm like, why are there no atomic weights on my periodic table? You're destroying a good time, Hank. Yeah, he's the thing.

It's his way of having a good time. Yes. All right. Which, yeah, you know, that's fine. That's fine. Everybody has their own way. Cause they're only one hanging out with him every day. Yeah, yeah, you know, that's fine. That's fine, everybody has their own way. Cause they're only one hanging out with him every day. Yeah, find your bliss, Neil deGrasse Tyson, whatever it is.

Ha ha ha, good size popular. Ha you for doing that. I appreciate that very much And we don't have to talk about it afterwards. It's by DH Lawrence Who was a writer? Is he no longer? Apparently a poet. Oh, he is no longer. Okay. Yes. He is a former It's called tourists. Okay There is nothing to look at anymore Everything has been seen to death Horrists. Okay. There is nothing to look at anymore.

Everything has been seen to death. Great, great dear Hank and John poem, Catherine. Thanks. You look really proud of yourself right now. I am, I feel proud. As a person who knows nothing about poetry and has minimal interest in it. That's not true. You like poetry?

More than I do. I suppose. I mean, I can appreciate it, but I don't seek it out. That's for sure. Yeah, I mostly have a, I just feel like my brain has very structured ways of understanding the world and- It's challenging to absorb it.. Take it a long time for me to develop these structures And they work they function well and then when like poetry is sort of designed to disrupt those fuck those structures Yes, and then I'm just like I can't work

Everything breaks I don't have I don't have those I don't have those other ways of understanding the world. They're just not there. It is very challenging for you. All right, I understand. Catherine, we've got a question. Oh, let's do it. We're going to do questions. This one is from Michaela, who asks,

dear Hank and Catherine, dogs and cats have a higher average body temperature than humans, which causes them to always feel warm and soft and cuddly when we touch them. Does this mean that when they touch us, they feel a cold sack of human flesh since our body temperature is lower than theirs? Oh.

I mean, have you ever touched another human? That's, yeah, they feel warm. Yeah. They feel warm. They feel warm on what part you're touching. And generally the part of doing the touching is colder than the part you're touching. And generally the part of doing the touching is colder than the part you're touching. I have always been impressed by my pet's abilities

for me to come in from the outside winter time and go to them and be like, give me a cuddle. And they don't, like if I did that to you. Oh yeah. Yeah. We are. Yeah. Got the scratching and biting. Yeah Yeah, but if but like pets are just like mom's lion here

I don't know like how are you not totally uncomfortable when I put my frigid hands on your lemon didn't even have hair on her stomach And I just be like yes, and she never cared. Yeah, I don't know She didn't have fat either so I don't I don't know. She didn't have fat either, so I don't know how she managed. No. But, yes, I think they do, but I think that it says a lot about them that they don't seem to mind. Yeah, I think that's, yeah, that's the thing. It's like, what is it unpleasant there for? Right. Not necessarily. Yeah. Yeah, maybe they're hot. Maybe they're hot. Maybe they want to go off. Okay.

Okay. Yeah, they always rub against people and they're like, Oh, you're so cool. I love it. That does not seem to be our pets though, because when the fireplace worked, which it no longer does, they would just lay there. Oh, yeah. Until.

Oh, yeah, until like, until searing. Yeah, until like dangerously hot. So I don't know. I think that they, yeah. Yes, I think the answer to the question is yes. I think it, yes, I think it's yes, but also it's not as impactful to them because they can manage their temperature better, maybe?

Maybe, yeah, I mean, I think humans are just whoops is yeah We're just not good at it like I'm cold right now. Yeah, I We're in a hat and a hoodie. Oh god inside yeah, yeah so Yeah, we're just bad at being people. Yeah, just animals bad to be an animal Be a bad at being animals. Yes, because we have other skills Yeah, we have yeah, cuz we've gotten so good at being like, oh, and this is bothering me. I'll fix the problem. Animals are like, oh, this is bothering me. So? Yep. What am I going to do? I got two choices.

Die or live with it. Sucking it up. Sucking it up. Good animals are good at that. Thank you animals for being so good at that. Yep. Well, thanks for your question, Michaela. Weird thought to have had, but I have another question, Hank. Okay. It's from Natalie. And she says, dear Hank and John, or Catherine. My brother and I are currently fighting over a ball. Which I took from him because I wanted it. You have very good grammar. Now, I know you're wondering how could a two-year-old send emails? That is what I was wondering.

Yes, well I am, in fact, 16 and my brother is 14. Because I took the ball, my brother is now taking my things. He has my textbook. This will most likely continue until one of us gives in. I will not be the one. Anyway, I was wondering, what's the most petty thing you guys have fought over? Any interesting insults get thrown around? Now I'm assuming he was hoping to get this question answered by you and John.

Right, yes, but that's not what's going to happen. John's not here, so. And she, I believe. Oh, sorry, yes. Natalie. I don't know. That's weird. You just assume that John's not here so. And she, I believe. Oh, sorry. Yes. Natalie. I don't know. That's weird.

You just assumed that it was two brothers because that was more the more likely situation for the bickering. Yeah. It does not. Well, anyway. Um, even though I read Natalie at the beginning. You did. Sorry, Natalie.

Um, well, first let me say. You can talk about petty arguments you've had with John that we've even went, even though he's not here to defend himself. No, I wanna know, but I wanna first give not at least some advice. Oh sure, yeah. Give that ball back.

Seriously. Come on. I mean, you're gonna be the one. Just, you know, you are, I know that you're the older sibling here. Uh huh. And there's a powered dynamic, and that powered dynamic, because I'm sure

it has a lot of different stuff tied up in it in your sibling relationship but remember that you as the older see I'm coming this we're both coming at this Catherine and I as the younger sibling and we're like come on you be the bigger person be the yeah because your brother 14 year old is doing his best to keep up to appearances and be like, hi, I am equal, I'm equal footing with you, but he's not. He's the younger sibling and he's always going to feel more slided than you.

Yes, that's the thing you'll have to learn is, when you have power, when you're in a position of power, you should not abuse it. And also understanding when you are in a position of power, which can be very difficult, and is the source of the majority of conflicts in the world. When, like, misunderstanding how powerful you are. Interesting, yes. That is how I feel. That is a feeling that I have. I've not done any psychological or sociological research on this. But do we have any arguments? Any useless petty things? Any arguments? Yeah. Silence. Oh! We never fight. You do not like it when I leave the lights on.

Oh. You're always like, hey, are you... What? Yeah, I guess that's a thing. Yeah. Cups. Oh Oh yeah, what the cups is a definite thing. I'm like, why is this your cup? Is this also your cup? How about that one over there? Is that your cup? I can see three of your cups for more I'm sitting, Hank. Why do you have so many cups? Why did you just get a new cup?

Yeah. I mean, some, yeah. That's fine though, you know, I mean, on the level of that. Yeah, no, that is a better way to say it. That is why it's like, that is yes. And I am like, It's not even really an argument.

I'm just kind of like, you did it again. You know, we're not like, because you know, you know it's, you're wrong. I do, I'm like, I'm like, I'm arguing about it. What happened was, I forgot about everything in the world But I forgot that the rest of the world existed and I was thirsty. Yep And the thing what I do when I'm thirsty is I go to the cupboard and get a cup and put liquid in it. Yes

I don't think about whether I have a cup. This is important Husband-wife communication like you have to know these things about each other that like Catherine thinks Conceives of the world differently than I do. Yeah, you see a bunch of objects Yes around I do not nope. I'd I'd never oblivious to the objects. I never I have no idea objects are around. Oh, yeah, man I have I have like I can tell like objects that I'm focused on, like the microphone. I'm very aware of the microphone right now.

I'm very aware of where it is. Do not touch it. And when we're recording games with Hank stuff, I'm always like, Kath and be more aware of the microphone. You have no idea where it is. And I'm constantly laser focused on where that thing is. So people can hear me and you're like,

off over here, it's having fun, like, back on the couch. And I'm like, come on, we're making content here. I'm trying to live. Let me live. Yes, whereas the world is just full of objects for me. No, yeah. It is literally just cluttered with objects. So many, they're all, and they're all looking at me and they want me to do something with them. Oh God, it's really stressful. Yes, it was very, very different ways of looking at, but you have to understand. Anyway, we just went right away from that question. That's fine. Have you ever watched my brother and my brother in me listen to two? Yes.

That's bad podcast is so much funnier than Dear Hank and John, and they never talk about the questions. Let's throw. The goal is a little bit different. The goal is different. They never talk about death. I mean, geez. What kind of podcast is it even?

Seriously. Come on. Got it gotta at least acknowledge it. Yeah, I just wanna talk about my brother and my brother and me every episode of Dear Hanging John because I want all the people who listen to Dear Hanging John to know. There's so much of it though. There is, you don't have to listen.

That's the other thing. You feel like there's all these objects in the queue of my brother and my brother and me and that's stressful, that you're never gonna listen to all of them, but I'm just like, oh, I'll just listen to the most recent one. And if I've listened to that one, I'll listen to the one before that.

Oh man, no. I listened to one of the first ones, and I was like, why did I do this? It's less good. They didn't know what they were doing. The audio quality is bad. They're, I mean, it's like, it's not funny, it's good. It's just less good.

Why would you start at the beginning, when like, sometimes I'm like, why would someone start at the good. Why would you start at the beginning when like what like sometimes? I'm like why would someone start at the beginning no one would start at the beginning of vlog brothers You would go back and watch vlog brothers Maybe because you have like you want to like have a Start because if you did you'd be like what this is awful Why did anyone ever watch this? It's terrible, terrible video.

Yeah. Because super awkward people. Super awkward, low quality, both technically and as far as the actual content itself. Performance wise. Alright, Katherine, we want to do another question. I think we should. Okay. Sorry, we didn't really answer that one, but you know.

Let's do a more serious question. Oh, okay, sure, yeah. This one is from Laura who asks, dear Hank and Catherine. Doesn't actually say that, but let's just go with it. Whatever. I'm in college and I have had a boyfriend for a year and a half. I love spending time and going places with him and his family, but I'm often uncomfortable because they are a very rich and I am definitely not rich. His parents took us out to some fancy dinners

for which I have to buy fancy clothes that I can't afford and it's an odd situation for me because I never went out for fancy dinners growing up. Do you have any dubious advice for me to how to feel more comfortable in situations like this? Two different questions here. Yeah, I mean, there's definitely several issues. Yeah. Laura, is it? It is. Well Laura. What do you think, guys? I feel like I had not not not quite

as not not the exact yeah experiences you. That's why I thought this would be a good question for us similar one um hanks you out of sand family parts of it at least are far better off than mine and uh just had different expectations of what what life was going to be like. And that included, you know, fancy, cocktail parties and whatever. The country club. Events, yes, things that things that the country club and, you know, where if you were raised with it, it wouldn't seem strange at all. But as an outsider, and especially someone even from a slightly different culture, I grew up in Connecticut. My family is from the South. So not quite the same there,

and it did not have, you know, anyway. Um, yeah, uh, I don't know about needing to get more comfortable with that. I think it's all right to maintain the discomfort in some aspect. Right, I mean, like, because like, you don't want to be, I don't know. A different person. Right, and also like, to become comfortable with fancy dinners all the time. I don't know, I mean, this is me judging.

Right, but you want to be a little more connected to reality? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You, not everyone is able to. Right, but you want to be a little more connected to reality. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You, not everyone is able to do that, obviously. Like you're saying, you know, and- It's the kind of thing that you want to appreciate as exceptional, not the kind of thing that you want to consider as normal.

Yeah. And- Thanks for putting those words out there because I was having a hard time with it. Yeah, it's fine. I am a professional talker and a professor. I didn't want to sound judgy, but everything that was coming to my mind

was sort of sounded judgmental. Because, you know, it's a cultural difference and like people who are like ingrained in a culture can have a very difficult time realizing how exceptional it might be. At the same time, even the even like sort of lower middle class experience in America is a much is a luxurious lifestyle globally. So like there's always that kind of

tension. I mean to help you with this thing about feeling more comfortable I'd say, yeah, I mean, to help you with the thing about feeling more comfortable, you could just have like your own personal, like maybe a little game you play, like how many times does something strange happen or like something that seems, I don't know, I can't think of that specific event. You can kind of consider it. How many times does the waiter say your boyfriend's dad's name? Or call him Mr. Something. Yeah. Or whatever. I don't whatever it is. I don't know what you're considering. It's sort of an anthropological experiment. Right. Yeah. What Catherine is suggesting. Yes. And with time it does get more comfortable. And also appreciate it. Yes. You know, and be like, wow, this is really interesting and delicious.

Yeah. And yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then as far as this, what I consider to be the practical problem of like, I need to buy clothes for these experiences. They don't, it's very difficult for a rich person to consider that they are taking you out as a gift to you. Right, right.

And they have no idea. And we'll probably be terrified to hear that you have to spend what is a significant amount of money to you and like make a significant sacrifice in order to have this experience. And the hope is that like these people just want to make you feel comfortable, feel happy and feel supported. And they don't know that that's happening. Now figuring out how to tell them that that's happening without like it being really awkward is hard.

Yeah, I mean, if my question is, if you have you ever discussed this with your boyfriend, right? You've been together for two years. You're half, yeah. Okay, well that's not very long, but the long enough to maybe to bring it up, to be like he knows something about your financial situation. I would hope so. Yeah, and also, you know, like maybe you're like, well, I love seeing your family. Mm-hmm. Could we do something else next time? Right. Whatever it is. Yeah, I love seeing your family. And we're, yeah, just approaching it from a purely rational standpoint

might be a nice thing to do and be like, is it okay if I wear the same dress every time? Yeah, I mean, also, I would definitely, I would do that. Because there is also a kind of, wear the same dress every time, put a different scarf on yeah or you know Don't think you have to get a different dress for every time you go out. Yeah Yeah, I mean chances are they will not even notice yeah

And if they do and they don't like it then like that's a conversation that you have to have with your boyfriend because then they're judging you for your For like something that is not in your control, which is not something that good people do. Yep. Sometimes you fall in love with people who don't have good relatives, but it sounds like they're nice. It sounds like they're nice. It sounds like you've got a good situation

and like it'll be totally, handable. Hopefully, I don't know. Just stick with it if you feel like it. And if you don't, don't. Don't. That's good advice, Katherine. Do you want to ask another question? Oh, sure. This one's also kind of serious, but it's from Emily, who asks, dear Hank and Katherine, how do I get over my anxiety associated with driving?

I was hit by a car my freshman year of high school and broke my ankle and had to be in physical therapy for a very long time. Now, I guess because I now understand the real dangers of driving a car I don't like driving. It is the source of most of my anxiety. I'm a senior in high school and have had my learners permit for a year and a half.

How do I get over this anxiety and actually drive? This is a very America question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause in America, like for people who aren't, don't live American by styles, including people in America who might live in big cities. Yeah, driving is very, like oftentimes you can't do things without a driver's license that have nothing to do with driving? Yeah.

Like, it is your piece of identification. You can get non driver's license identification. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're much more rare. And driving is like a very necessary part of life in a lot of America. And you basically can't function as an adult without the ability to do it in some places. Or it is a significant... Or have any sort of social... Yeah, it can hold you back significant, but it's really unfortunate that that is the case. I mean, yeah, where I lived

in Connecticut, I lived in a very sort of rural area and I specifically did not live near anyone I was friends with. So if I ever wanted to go see anyone I had to get myself there because no one was going to come to my house and take me out. No and also yeah there was no public transport yeah at all. So and also like if I wanted to have a job or do anything extracurricular sports or musicals or any of that stuff, I had to be able to get myself to those things. My dad didn't, you know, like my mom couldn't drive me

ever, she had a job. My dad had a job. Yeah. So had a job. My dad had a job. Yeah. So the, yeah. But I mean, your anxiety associated with driving is good. Yes, it is warranted. It is the most, as you know.

It is the most dangerous thing that young people do. Yeah. And the, it is less dangerous automatically because you are anxious about it, because you are going to be careful about it. The, in general, like the blanket advice is, if you have to do something that you're anxious about doing it is the only way to get less anxious about it. And the more you do it, the less anxious you will feel. I mean, I, I remember feel. I mean, I remember feeling

I don't know where you live, but I would take yourself somehow to a place that is more safe. Yeah. To begin driving. Do a lot of driving around in neighborhoods. Yep. The low 20 mph. Slow places with not a lot of other cars and not a lot of other things to challenge you. Yeah, and just get comfortable with the actual like being in a car in the driver's seat. Yeah. And you know, take it as slow as you need to. Yeah. I guess. And as far as like rational hank, just to know that like all things are percentages and the chances of, you know, it's sort of normal everyday driving,

not being reckless. The chances of injury are low. Yeah, especially the slower you're going. Yeah, the chances of accidents are much higher when you're going slower, but the chances of injury, yeah, injury are much lower. This is a very interesting thing. I mean, I did a bunch of weird research on, so I read a statistic on the internet that said that women were much more likely to be in car, to be the cause of car accidents than men. And I was like, I don't feel good about this statistic. So I did a bunch of research and it was fascinating. And it wasn't, it isn't indeed true, but they are much less likely to be the cause

of deadly accidents. These are the penalties. So women do a lot of neighborhood driving, driving to school, a lot of like, distracted. Yeah, like mall parking a lot driving, like the kind of driving that you're likely to get into an accident in.

Supermarkets. Yeah, like, like this is where most... You know women, they go and shop and... They drive into kids around. Yeah, and they also have the most distracting thing you can possibly have in a car, which is a child. Yes. But, but, you know, what are we,

what do we want to measure here? The number of fender benders or the number of like deaths Because men are responsible for many more actual debt like serious car accidents Which is fascinating and one of those things where you're like boys statistics. They can say anything but but yeah, neighborhood driving is very safe and And it is all and that whatever happens to you and I'm sorry about your accident It's you know, it's and that whatever happened to you, and I'm sorry about your accident, it's, you know, it's on, you just happened to be statistically very unlucky.

And that happens, that does not mean that it seems much more present to you because it has happened to you, but that does not mean that it is as likely as it feels to you. Mm-hmm. Which is an important thing. We've got another question. This one's from Aliana who asks,

why do sesame seeds add to a burger? Why do buns always have sesame seeds? Aliana, I don't know and I am so grateful for you to asking, have you brought this up before? No, I don't think I have. You haven't. I don't know that I've ever mentioned this anywhere publicly.

I can't eat sesame seeds because of my ulcerative colitis. They are a trigger food for me that will make my colon really unhappy. So basically sesame seeds are hank repellent. And I get... Oh man. And they just sprinkle them on. Everything. Everything.

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why? No. Someone I hope so much that someone else will eat this because I cannot. But I think that this is just a fast food is very strange. I was thinking about it yesterday because we were eating at McDonald's and I realized what. Nothing. Did I let that out? Our secret is out. Oh, yeah. And sometimes you just gotta eat at McDonald's, guys.

Yeah, and I was thinking about like the food that they have at McDonald's and why it is the way it is because as I'm gonna Egg McMuffin, it was nighttime. But I had it, because they can do that at McDonald'm gonna Donald's now, sponsor. Uh, they have all day breakfast, it's very exciting. And I was like, why is it, like why is this the thing that I can get?

Why is it chicken sandwich and a hamburger? Why are these the things? Yeah. And if because they like have this overlap between being what was in the fifties, and when like fast food restaurants were starting to happen, what was in the fifties and when fast food restaurants were starting to happen, what was considered good food and what you were easily able to cheaply cook and get and distribute with the same limited set of equipment and easy training for employees.

And that's basically what the food is at McDonald's. It's stuff that's easy to get to places, easy to train people to cook, and you don't have to have a new piece of equipment to cook it. That's all the stuff. And I think that sesame seeds are there because they add legitimacy to a hamburger. They make it seem like this is,

like somebody thought about this. And sesame seeds, like on a baked good Like if you're going to a bakery like there are these like cocoa Drio's that like have amazing. Oh, yeah Sesame seeds all over on them. Sesame bagel And so like it's a thing that like is is indicative of a higher quality item that I'm sure costs very little money So it looks higher quality without being functionably different at all But it looks higher quality without being functionally different at all, but it looks higher quality and doesn't cost much more. And I think that that is a huge,

huge part of the sesame seed industry in the world. Window dressing. Yeah, it is psychology. Yeah, psychology, psychological window dressing. Makes you think you're eating a fancy or product. Yeah. Eating a fancier product. Yeah. Mmm-hmm. I have a lot of thoughts on this, unsurprisingly, because I deal with it.

And this is also a problem for people with diverticulitis. Yeah, anything in those. So it's... It's bowel disorders. It's not a huge problem globally. You know, I understand that there are other food issues that are more significant than my, that my Sesame seed problem, but I, yes, I am a frustration. I am a frustration. You are a frustration.

All right, Hank, you want another question? Give me one. This one's also kind of about food. It's from Rabia, Rabia. Rabia. Okay. Dear Hank and Katherine, so we got cheesy pepperoni pizza delivered to our house the other day. Sounds delicious. That's great. I want it. Extra pepperoni. Hmm. Crispy and amazing. Oh god. It was delicious. And I think my sister would agree, since she slowly reached for the last slice,

maintaining solid eye contact, her face cold and unsmiling, and almost threatening gesture. That took a turn. How can we learn to forgive people and move on when we know they have intentionally intentionally hurt us. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha place. I could see that pizza. I could taste it and smell it. It's so crispy. And then I saw your sister's betrayal. Yeah I saw the face. Yeah cold. Intentional. Well I think that there's I think you should steal her ball. I think there's only one thing you can do. her ball. I think there's only one thing you can do. So follow I think it was Laura's lead and steal that it wasn't Laura. Dang it, dang it, Natalie, Natalie's lead. steal that ball, take it, don't even let her know where it is. Yeah I mean that's one way to handle it. Just retribution. Yeah. Sure. Do you have a boyfriend? Um, what does she love? Destroy it.

Ha ha ha ha ha. Does she have a collection of porcelain horses? Put them in a blender. Brush them. To dust. D them. Dust. Duff sand. And then mix them in with hot cocoa. Oh my god.

That would be really, really nefarious. Yeah, that would be. Well, I don't do that. Really don't do that. That's like tiny pieces of glass in your drink. Yeah, no, you don't want tiny pieces of glass in your drink No, you also don't want to be that person. I Want to tell a story about Catherine one time. Can I have this story about you? Yes, you know what I'm gonna tell

Oh, man, so Catherine did it internship at At a wildlife rehab place and she was living in a dorm basically with a bunch of other people and There's this guy in the dorm that Catherine really didn't like. He was really annoying and he was difficult and he was mean and... I can't even really remember. I agree, I met him and I also really did not. Of why I just liked him.

But yes, he was not it. Yes, he was an unpleasant person and he was very... I forgot to think about him. Yeah. It's not a thing I really want to maintain, and a memory of. And I was visiting Catherine at this dorm

and she admitted to me that she would... Uh... When no one was looking, squeeze his fruit. Go into the shared kitchen area. And I would just like squeeze all his pairs so that they would get brown spots. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. It's awful.

So bad. You never want to get there with a person. Ha ha ha ha. I wasn't in a good place. To fruit squeezing. It was a very stressful time in my life. Oh no I know. I know. You're not proud. Anyway but it was yeah it wasn't uh I'm so I'm so very passive. Aggressive. Yeah. A lot of door slamming in my life. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just

important to keep those lines of communication open so that we don't get to fruit squeezy face. Yeah, you know, but I didn't care about maintaining a relationship with this person. No, it's not like I was really just gonna have a conversation with him about not leaving his dirty things everywhere and just stop being a terrible person. Anyway, communal living is a challenge. Yes, communal living is a huge challenge. Oh boy is it. Yeah. I'm glad I only have to do that with one other person. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, we do it pretty well. We do it pretty well. I got one on the question. Oh good. Yeah. So squeeze the squeeze or fruit is the answer to the question. I can. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

maybe like don't squeeze or fruit. No, no, but like something that is really inconsequential, but it'll make you feel better. better. You know, like just go unfold all of her t-shirts or something. Oh, I disagree. Yeah, but it's gotta let it go. No, it's just inconvenient, but you'll feel better. You gotta let it go. You gotta let it go. You gotta ask yourself, you know what I could do is just order another pizza and there would be more pizza. Like, like, there's not a limited amount of pizza in your family. Okay, I guess that's true. There's other, there's other pizza in the world. There will be more pizza. Like, like, there's not a limited amount of pizza in your family. Okay, I guess that's true. There's other, there's other pizza in the world. There will be more pizza, I guess. You just got to, you got to let it go. This question

is from Lydia, who has dear, you got to unfold all our t-shirts. What's that? Dear Hank and Catherine. And this question is for both of us, though it says this question is for Hank, but it is about Montana. Oh, she's just been accepted into a summer program at Montana State University. She's super excited, but she's also scared because she lives in Amsterdam and the Netherlands and has no idea what to expect from Bozeman Montana. It's pretty different, right?

Yes. Then, yes. That answer now. Yes, correct. It's pretty different than Mizzou, actually. So Hank, what's Montana like? What should I do there? Will I be able to do things without a driver's license?

And most importantly, how many sides do bananas have in Montana? Anything you can tell me about this epic-looking place would be very much appreciated. Alright, yes, bananas, interestingly, are clones, and so they look the same everywhere in the world, at least for now, until the blight kills them all. You can watch about that on SciShow. Wow. So yeah, bananas look the same here, unless you're talking about

a different species of banana. Plugging. Well, yeah, and I'm Hank Gieri on Snapchat. Oh, boy. Anyway, um... Montana, Catherine. Yeah. Ah. I mean, have you ever been to the United States? Anyway, um... Montana, Catherine. Yeah. Ahhhhhhhhhh

I mean, have you ever been to the United States? This is your first introduction? Yeah. Like, um... I've never been to Amsterdam, so I don't really know, but I have some ideas about it. Do you like beer? We really like beer here. That's a big part of the culture.

First of all, you're gonna have to start drinking espresso and beer. Well, she may have just been accepted into school, so she probably technically can't drink in America. But it's MSU, so you're probably gonna have beer around. That's a good point. Unless that's not your... Unless that's on your back. You probably find people who are into whatever you're into. The thing is, I don't really know much about Bozeman. I don't know that much about Bozeman.

I do not know. So the Ingrid is there right now. How, not she's not there, she's just nearby. Anyway, I don't know how easy it is to get around in that town without a car. But I bet you could do it. Yeah. It's gonna be smaller town. a car. But I bet you could do it. Yeah. It's gonna be smaller town.

You just have to pick where you live carefully. Yep, and also what you want to do on a daily basis. Yeah, there's a website called Walkscore. Oh yeah, that's good. And so if you're looking for apartments, you want. It's probably gonna live on campus. Yeah, yeah.

If you live on campus, then you'll probably be set without a car. You'll have friends who have cars and campus will probably be near most of the services you need. Unless you want to go out to like go to Walmart or a movie theater or something, then you will need someone's car. But if you want those, but is certainly more sprawling than the show. Yeah, yeah.

But there's a downtown area. But yes, yeah. What should you do here? Is that what you said? Yeah, yeah, I think you know in any new place like the trick is finding a group of people who have like sort of a similar Outlook and values as you and that you know that might be a struggle because there are more American sort of like Gung ho American types inzeman? Yes, they're more conservative. Yeah, type people. Yes, but you will be going to a college. And so there will be plenty of,

plenty of not that. Sure, but you're real close to Yellowstone. Oh yeah, you should go to Yellowstone. Go to Yellowstone. With friends, because that requires a card. But like, yeah, it can be expensive to get in. You pay per car. But you pay per car.

So the more people you have that go with you, the cheaper it is. It's better. And you can also, it's a week long pass, I believe, once you pay to get into the park. So make a, make a longer trip out of it. Don't just plan on going down there for a day or something. Also because it's huge and you won't be able to see anything. You know, be really stressed out.

Yeah. If you try to get it all into one day. Yeah. Um, but yeah. And also, I don't know. Do you like to fish? Try that out. Or hike.

There's a great hiking all over. But there are bears there, so make sure you bring a bear, bell, and and bear spray. Um, people get, they do. Mald by them over there. Do sometimes get killed by bears. That doesn't happen here in Missoula so much. It's true. We have not had any mollings since we've been here. It's a different landscape a bit. It's the other side of the Continental Divide. I don't know, man, just explore the landscape. Go as many places as you can if you can find someone to take you there, since you can't drive. It's a lovely town to walk around in. Yeah, I mean, do you have I don't know what time of year you're going to be there. It's going to be winter. Make sure you

bring a lot of coats. It's cold. It's cold. Lots of snow. There'll be lots of snow. And if you like skiing, that is a thing that lots of people do there. Sure. That can also be expensive though. So what kind of college student budget allows for going to the skiing? I don't know. I don't know. Um, different strokes. Yeah. It's hard to answer because I don't know what you want to do.

Yeah, but I think we gave it a good, pretty good overview. What are you coming here to do? She didn't say. Oh, just, just go to school? Yeah. She's super excited. Oh, just go to school? Yeah. She's super excited. That's a weird decision. She said that she's excited about the epic-looking place.

So it is epic-looking. Big mountains. It's a beautiful valley. Yep. Don't get into the sports, though. The football is too much. It's too much. It's just too much.

We don't have any national football teams in Montana, so it's all about the college and it just, it rubs me the wrong way you guys. I'll be honest. Don't hurt us. Don't hurt us, but you know, everybody in Mizzoula knows we've had some issues, we've had some issues. Yeah. And it's really frustrating.

You got another question for us, Katherine? I, I, sure. This one's from Emmett. Emmett. Yeah. Dear John Hank and Hank John. And Katherine. Like Katherine. A few years ago, I dated a rapper.

Oh, cool. I now count him among my most amicable exes, but on account of the fact that breakup suck and I initiated ours, he wrote a song about me and they immediate after math that is, he confesses someone harsh. When we are dating, he offered me veto power over any lyrics about me, which I declined on the principle that respecting each other's creative freedom was important in a relationship between artists. He's generously floated the same offer about the post breakup song before it's committed to posterity in his upcoming album. I am still firm in my principle so my answer hasn't changed. What has changed

is that I don't want to hear the song at all. In fact I dread it. I can accept that the song will be out of the world but I don't want it in my world. I plan on immediately deleting it from my copy of the album and stepping out for an imaginary cigarette if I go to a live show Having a song written about you is a pretty cool experience So it's ridiculous to duck out of that just because it might hurt some very so is it ridiculous to duck out of that just because it might hurt some very old feelings He accepts my decision, but it still feels a bit sticky especially as I'm creating some merch related to the new album for him still feels a bit sticky, especially as I'm creating some merch related to the new album for him.

Please, I implore your dubious advice as to whether I come off as perfectly reasonable or an emotional coward in this scenario. And you come off as perfectly reasonable. Yeah, I mean, it's okay to have feelings about things that happened in the past. It's feelings are all right. It's feelings are all right. Gathering accepts the legitimacy of feelings. Yep. And as should you and as should your ex? Yeah, I and I mean it. And I yeah. Are you worried about...

Confused about why you worried about this? Yeah. Are you worried that he's going to react badly to your reaction or that other people are going to see you leaving and be like, oh, he's leaving because his song is about him and I wouldn't worry about either of those things. No. I think you, it is fine to yeah to take steps to protect yourself. Yeah yeah that's fine and I like and it's see I mean I'm mostly I'm just a little worried that you

still have such a close relationship with this person. It feels like, but. That's okay. That's fine. It's gonna be fine. Yeah. I don't know how long ago this breakup was or anything. No, not how bad it was. Yeah. It says it's amicable. Yeah.

So, yeah, I think that you are both being very healthy in this situation. And I think that if your ex feels like you are behaving strangely, it is fine to say, it's emotional for me to hear that song. If I don't want to have a bunch of emotions right now, which I don't always want when I'm at, I, you know, like you in this situation are being really supportive of creative endeavor and that's very healthy and fantastic. And like, it's a cool outlook that you seem to both have on the situation. So good, good job. Yeah, I think. I like this question basically because- I think you're handling things fine. Yeah, because I think you got all that, yeah, I like this question because it's just like, basically because- I think you're handling things fine.

Because I think you got all that- Yeah, I like this question because it's just like, Hello, I'm handling a difficult situation in a very healthy way. Can we talk about that for a little bit? Yes, let's do that! And let's talk about you handling a healthy, handling a difficult thing in a healthy way.

I feel good now. Good job. Yeah. People make good decisions sometimes. Not always what we get here on Dear Hangin' John. An easy one. Um, yeah, I, uh, it's, yep. Well, worded question and everything.

Yeah, you read that whole thing. What's the long one? It was long. I, I was like, okay, I'm still reading it. Ha ha ha. You did good. You better at reading than me. Whew. We got another question. This one's from Nicole, who asks Dear Hank and Catherine. This one's senior, I'm a freshman,

has complemented my giraffe love shirt on two different occasions. It makes me wonder if he's a nerd fighter. However, I wear my DFTBA sweatshirt every day to school and he's never said anything about that. Is he a nerd fighter? Or does he just really like giraffes? Well, I think it's probably guessing that he really likes to wrap. Sounds to be like he really likes to wrap and also love.

And love and also probably you. Maybe also he thinks you're cute but do not engage. Be careful. Do not engage. Do not engage. Freshman, see, you're complicated power dynamic. Do not engage. I, yeah.

Katherine's got a grown face. Yeah, we've all seen it. We've all seen that in balanced power dynamic. I just don't think it's good. Anyway, you didn't ask about that at all. I... don't think he's a nerd fighter either. Yeah.

But... Because... It's possible that he just doesn't know he is yet. That's right. So next time he complements it, you should hand him a piece of paper or something that says, maybe you'd enjoy this website. Dftpa.com where you can vibe this shirt. No. H-T-T-P. Go and slash slash. slash slash YouTube.com slash one brothers. Nobody puts H-T-T-P in one place. No, I don't know why you were doing that.

I don't either. Triple Dub as they say on the old person radio. Oh God. You never heard that. Oh. Yeah. Oh, that gives me all kinds of bros feelings. Yeah, it's gross.

Yeah. I heard that on, I heard that on, when I was at your parents' house, there was a, there was a tech support program on the AM radio. Oh. It was like how to use your computer and like, it was like computer advice. It's so clever.

Well, this is clearly a person who like actually knows what they're talking about, but also knows that their audience does not. It was very interesting to listen to and I will never forget it. I just want to say that that shirt is not anything that happened in my parents house. Yes, it's a great shirt and I designed it. So thank you. I just want to say thank you to both you and that random senior And giraffes and giraffes. Thank you to giraffes and also other people who have also had the thought of making a heart shape out of Giraffnex. That is not yes. Which is not a thing that Hank owns. Yes.

Yeah, I often will get people being like, did you see that copy your design? And I'm like, it's a giraffe. It's a couple giraffes making a heart. Yeah, I often will get people being like, did you see their copy-droid design? And I'm like, it's a giraffe. It's a couple of giraffes making a heart. Yeah. That's the original. That's gonna happen. Did not come up with that one all by yourself. I sure did.

This podcast tank is brought to you by giraffes. Oh. Yeah, they're tall. They got long necks and meat leaves. Correct. They're great. They can make heart shapes with their necks and they drink each other's pee.

Yeah, they're drafts. I mean, they will make your life more interesting. They certainly did to us. I mean, frankly, not only is this podcast brought to you by Dress, but in a way, the entire blog Brother's Enterprise's is brought to you by Dress. Yeah, that's, the entire blogbrothers' enterprises is brought to you by Dress. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you check out our most viewed videos, this episode of Your Hankajon is also brought

to you by the warmth of your dog or cat. The warmth of your dog or cat. Just remember that they feel you as a cold sack of human flesh. This episode of Dear Hankajon is brought to you by your siblings, Paul. of human flesh. And finally, of course, this episode of Dear Hengajan's brought to you by Sesame seeds. The American Association of Sesame Seeds. This brought is not brought to you by Sesame seeds because they can go away. This episode of Dear Hengajan is finally brought to you by Good Decisions.

Oh, yeah. Good Decisions. You are able to make them. Ah! And when you do, we are proud of you. Yes. Well done. Right us, why does your question in say,

I was in a difficult situation, I'm in a good decision, and we'll just be like, good job. Thank you. Well done. You. All right, uh... What a wonderful episode of your Hingajani. We've had thus far. Do you want to do a couple more questions?

I suppose we could do questions or is it time for the news from AFC Wimbledon and Mars? What time is it? Oh, it's totally... Wow, wow, that flew by. It is time for the news from AFC Ombuldin and Mars G's, Katherine, I didn't realize how time we had gone. How time we had gone? Yes, it does had gone without us experiencing it sometimes. Well, the news from AFC Wimbledon is not great. Hopefully this is the newest news. Ah.

Good. I'm proud of you already, Catherine. From the 8th of March. Okay. That was two days ago. That's new. Sure. That's got to be accurate.

Unfortunately, AFC Wimbledon lost their game to the Bristol Rovers. Oh, no three one And they are currently in seventh. Oh, that's still that's still good. Seventh I think is inside of the going up to Still within the possible possible promotion, but Chant more challenging more ch. What happened in the game, Catherine? I just refreshed this freaking page, and it has, it is taking extremely long to load.

But once it loads, I will tell you all kinds of things that happened. Something, indeed, did happen. Several, at least for the distinct goals happened. Yep, yep. Uh, Jameister nodded rovers ahead from Lee Brown's cross before Olly Clark doubled the lead with a low right-footed shot. Oh. John Mead's header gave Wimbledon hope. Oh John Mead's go John Mead's. Yeah, but Matt Taylor's 12 yard finish. His 19th of the season sealed victory. Oh John Meads go John Meads. Yeah, but Matt Taylor's 12 yard finish. His 19th of the season sealed victory.

I feel like this was plagiarized. Oh, sorry BBC. Sport website. Wimbledon who are seventh, as I said, had substitute at a bio-occon Fenwa sent off. Oh no. Oh no. Decent? Decent like it's World War II?

I don't know what that means. What is descent? In the ranks? He's descent, he's descented. Anyway, they're at 53 points. Oh, that's so pretty good. Which is tied with latent orant, but they have a better goal.

A better goal differential. So that's why they're in seventh place. But you know, things, there are four points behind their nearest. Mm-hmm. You can make that up. Yeah, it's possible, I suppose. But they're not going to get into that top three. Mm-hmm. I do not think it is going to happen this year. All right, Katherine. Well, the news from... That is the end of the news for May F.C. We've all done. Thank God. Alright, okay. Alright, gathered. This is the news from Mars.

The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. Orbiter. Orbiter. Orbiter. What is it? The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. Okay. Celebrates its 10th anniversary.

What? Today, when we record this, several days previously. On Thursday, March. And the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter has been doing amazing research on Mars, taking pictures with a number of different instruments of the surface of Mars that have... Is this a satellite? It is a satellite.

Around the planet of Mars? Correct. The planet of Cecilia. Also known as Mars. Which you designate Mars. Haut Procter. If you never heard the Thirling Adventure in our podcast, you should totally check it out. It's amazing.

It is an old-time radio podcast, old-time radio, and it is a new time podcast in the style of old-time radio. There it is. There it is, I remember. It is no longer a thing that is happening, but there's lots of old episodes in there. Absolutely delightful. So delightful. So delightful. So delightful.

So delightful. Also recommend Beyond Belief. Yes. With Patch Brewster and Paul F. Tompkins. Top quality, hilarity. Top quality, hilarity. Anyway, so the rover is 10 years old. Orbiter.

Right. It is orbiting not on the surface, so... The orbiter. It has lasted five times longer than they expected it to last. That is amazing. And it has been amazing because as we have found out more stuff, we have been able to focus on areas of Mars and do research will like on those streaks of water that we have recently identified.

Is that how we got those in minutes? That is how we got those images. From the orbiter. So if we did not have, if it had not lasted as long as it did, we would not have been able to do that research and we would not know that there was liquid water on the surface of Mars sometimes for brief amounts of time. Fascinating. Fascinating.

Thank you. Good work. Thank you to all the product scientists at the MRO team. Thank you to the orbiter itself, which is obviously. Does it have a name? The MRO, the Mars for Crod. Just a... No, it doesn't get like curiosity here.

No, no opportunity, spirit. Can we call it Fred? Sure, call it Sparks. Good work, Sparks. Sparks is good. No, Sparks is kind of bad. You don't want an orbiter to spark. No.

In space. No. It has also given us a much better look at the surface of Mars, crotch. Crotch, the orbiter, has also given us a much better look at the surface of Mars so that we can better plan missions to Mars and had a better ability to land in the places

where we wanted to land safely, which we did with curiosity. So thank you to the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter for your 10 years of service and all the people on those teams. And congratulations. Well, well done. What have we learned today, Catherine? Oh, boy. Is it that time already?

We did. I just deleted all my notes. Um. You didn't realize it. I forgot about that part of the podcast. Oh. Oh. Well, Hank, we learned that part of the podcast. Oh. Oh. Oh. Well, Hank, we learned that it's okay to have anxiety about driving, but if you got to

learn to do it, you got to do it. You got to do it. That is the only way to be less anxious about the things that you do. And that goes for pretty much everything. Pretty much everything. Yep. We learned that your dog or cat hates it when you touch them, but they have no way of knowing that they're just so stalwart.

They're good at just dealing with it. And good at dealing with it? I don't know. If they didn't like it, they would leave. That's true. That's true. That's what I always tell my cat. If you don't like it.

If I'm bothering her, I'm like That leaves. You can just go away. Then leave So yes cats and dogs They find us to be Sex of flesh, but they don't mind but they don't mind We also learned that sesame seeds are from the devil. They're from the devil, sesame seeds. Who needs them?

Just sprinkle them in the fire. And the fire and brimstone sesame seeds. I love, honestly, like, it is one of the things that I miss the most. I do love sesame seeds. I love sesame flavored things, but I just, you can't taste them. So why?

Why if you're gonna use a sesame seed, put them in like a sesame stick, they taste like sesame. Mm-hmm, yep. Poor sesame seeds, I love sesame flavored things, but I just, you can't taste them. So why? Why? If you're gonna use this sesame seed, put them in like a sesame stick that tastes like sesame. Mm-hmm. Yep. Poor sesame seeds. Poor hank. Poor me. Poor hank. We learned that sometimes you'll want to do petty things to pay your sister back for eating the cheesy pizza, but you probably shouldn't just go, squeeze her fruit, and unfold all of her laundry. You should just let it go. Catherine does not look committed to this line of thought. She said it, but her eyes, her eyes did not agree.

We learned the last thing we learned is that my wife... Little bit vindictive! She doesn't, and I probably should put my cups away. Don't cross me. She'll probably put my cups away, you guys. Thank you for listening to this episode of Dear Hank and Catherine. And also, sometimes, Dear John and Hank and Dear Hank and John. Yes.

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