Dear Hank & John - 59: Hank's Disaster Preparedness Plan

Episode Date: August 22, 2016

What is my actual favorite color? At what point in the day do I switch to "have a good night" as my go-to courtesy? What do I do when The Big One hits? And more! ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to Dear Hank and John. Yours I prefer to think that Dear John and Hank. It's a comedy podcast about death. We don't talk about death as much anymore, John. I can fix that. Okay, good. But we, in addition to talking about death, we answer your questions, give you a debuse advice, and bring you all the weeks news from both Mars and AFC.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Wimbledon, hey John, how you doing? I'm doing all right considering that the sweet embrace of death is coming for me. Yeah, no forever, forever and ever. So when you raise your children, as a question that has become very pressing to me, when do you start to tell them that they're going to die? I guess when they start asking, which is pretty early, I remember Henry's best friend,
Starting point is 00:00:51 Luna, her cat died, and there was a whole ceremony. They buried the cat in the backyard. Luna and Henry were probably three. And afterwards, someone came over to the house and said, Luna, I heard your cat went to heaven. And Luna looked at the person and said, what are you talking about? There's no heaven for cats. The cat went in the yard. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:18 The cat is under the tree. And I was just thinking like, man, they already have these sophisticated ideas around death that they just don't express to you because they're sort of probably because they're afraid of it. Like I remember Maurice Sendak once saying about childhood that he knew, the only thing he knew was that he was aware of deep and terrible secrets that adults didn't seem to know. And I do think that children are very aware from a very early age of the subjects
Starting point is 00:01:49 that adults are trying to tiptoe around. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yep. All right, well, then I know the answer, John. I'll just, I'll start them off early. Do you have a short poem for us today? Yeah, I'm glad that we've started on such a high note. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:04 I guess you could talk about me. I'm fine. I feel really good. I spent a lot of time this weekend trying to make all of the things that I have to do go away, which I love. And I've been saying no to many people. And I have this wonderful reason to say no. And they can be like, oh, that's a great reason for you to say no.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And then I don't have to worry about hurting their feelings. So it's wonderful. Yeah, no. And that, by the way, that doesn't go away. Like, you continue to be able to use parenthood as an excuse. So that's one of the big benefits I would argue a parenthood. In addition to the pure joy of having children, Sarah and I just got back from a one week vacation slash writing retreat, mostly a writing retreat, in Maine, which was really lovely.
Starting point is 00:02:53 And I was delighted to have Flula play the role of me last week. I thought he did a great job, but I'm very happy to be back. I'm glad to have you back. I'm glad to have you back. And I have to ask on behalf of all the people in the world, did you finish your book? Mm. No, no, I did not.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I am working hard. Okay. It is difficult and slow, but... Ah, gimme. Let's answer some questions from our listeners. Wait, no, first I have a short poem. Wait, short poem. Short poem.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Hank, I really liked a couple of weeks ago when you turned our corrections have a short poem. Wait, short poem, short poem. Hank, I really liked a couple of weeks ago when you turned our corrections into a short poem, so I decided to take a corrective note from a listener named Jerome and turn it into a short poem by adding line breaks. It is as follows. The US Mint does not make any $100 bills, or any bills at all for that matter.
Starting point is 00:03:43 They only make coins. I mean, this is an innovation, John. I don't know. Can I do one? Yes, yes, feel free. All right. Everyone on Twitter would like you to know that it was Rick Springfield and not Rico Kaseyck who wrote Jesse's girl, but still I stand by the fact that Jesse's girl was named Jesse.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm really sorry to Rick Springfield, by the way. I carried that bit on with Flula for a long time about Rico Kaseyck, wanting Jesse's girl Jesse. But it was Rick Springfield, different Rick. Too many ricks, too many Jesse's John. Yeah, it's hard out there for a Springfield. Let's move on to questions from our listeners. This one comes from Emily, who writes,
Starting point is 00:04:35 Dear John and Hank, is there a way for me to moisturize my nostrils between a new job that requires me to breathe in a lot of flour and other powders and the air conditioning as it is summer where I live, my nostrils have been quite dry recently. Is there a safe and effective way for me to moisturize them? Side note, I have asthma and thus cannot use humidifiers. Okay. So, Hank, I want to just begin by acknowledging the elephant in the room,
Starting point is 00:05:00 which is that Emily has essentially said without saying that she works in a cocaine factor. Yeah, I mean, you can't just say other powders. Well, that's not a... Yeah, I mean, I think we all know when you're talking about flower and other powders, you're talking about mostly cocaine, and then secondarily, the flower used to cut the cocaine in potency.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Okay. Okay. I, yes, but first I want to say, uh, you should probably, I don't mean to judge, but get another job because working in a cocaine factory is both dangerous and illegal. Uh, secondly though, yes, I have the same problem and there are a number of products on the market that are specifically designed for putting up your nose when it's dry. You can also, according to a website,
Starting point is 00:05:46 I went to use coconut oil, which smells good. Yeah, the only thing that I would say here, Hank, is to make absolutely sure that if you use water to use distilled water, because it's possible that if you use tap water to moisturize your nostrils, you could get brain amoebas, which are almost always fatal. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And I do not want Emily to get brain amoebas, particularly given that she is already taking so many risks in her professional life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's the whole neti pot thing. But there's this stuff I use, it's called air, but it's spelled A-Y-R.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And there's a number of similar products that it's just like an saline gel. It's saline solution. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's the solution. I mean, the first solution is to stop working in the cocaine factory. But if it's necessary to remain there, then yeah, I think you go with the saline solution. The second solution is a saline solution. But again, we want to emphasize It's not a good idea to work in a cocaine factory. It's just not a good long-term solution. Never. All right, John I've got another question from David who asks dear Hank and John I think I'm having a crisis in my life for years
Starting point is 00:06:55 I have always known what my favorite colors are and I have always been proud of that and never expected it to change All of a sudden I find myself admiring the color red, and I'm afraid it's replacing brown as my favorite color. Do I just abandon brown and embrace red? And if I do, isn't that abandoning a part of who I am? Please tell me what my favorite color actually is so I can move on with my life. Love David. He didn't say love David, but I put that in there.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Hank, I've got great news for David, and I think that you're gonna agree with me on this, which is that David does not need to change his favorite color due to the fact that red is technically, in my opinion, a shade of brown. Or is brown a shade of red? No, no, no, no, no, Red is a shade of brown, for sure. So your favorite color is brown, and your favorite shade of brown at the moment is red, but that
Starting point is 00:07:52 can evolve. Like, the core essential thing is that your favorite color is brown, but there are a bunch of shades of brown. You've got your dark browns, your white browns, your tans, your reds, etc. But what if Brown is a shade of red, and David's favorite color was always red, and now he's just realizing it? Yeah, no, that would make sense. If Brown were a shade of red, unfortunately for you, it's not red is a shade of brown.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Oh, well, and so what other colors are shades of brown? Yellow is yellow a shade of brown? Yellow is essentially a very light brown, that is correct. So how about orange? Orange also a shade of brown. It's sort of some would say, in the same way that red is a shade of brown, yes. Orange is definitely a shade of brown.
Starting point is 00:08:37 So I'm gonna continue around the color wheel and ask if like blue is a shade of brown. Good question, obviously not. I mean, look at blue, it is clearly not a shade of brown. This is not a difficult subject, tank. Like, okay, red, orange, and yellow, all shades of brown, blue and green, not shades of brown, black, not a shade of brown,
Starting point is 00:08:58 white, not a shade of brown, teal, not a shade of brown, et cetera. It is very obvious. Everyone knows that red and yellow and oranges are shades of brown. Purple is not a shade of brown, et cetera. It is very obvious. Everyone knows that red and yellow and orange are shades of brown. Purple is not a shade of brown. It's between blue and green. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:09:10 It's between red and blue. No, it's not. It's between blue and green. Maybe not on the color wheel, but everybody knows in real life, and real, you know, the way we experience colors, it's between blue and green. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Do you have any more serious answers for David? I don't think it's that serious of a question. I'm so angry. Oh, okay. Do you have any more serious answers for David? I don't think it's that serious of a question. Hahaha. All right, well, you can say, I would say that you are gonna change in your life and you are going to abandon the thing that you once were and you will no longer be that thing. And that is a sign not of some personal disaster,
Starting point is 00:09:44 but of growth and harkens back to our desire to write in your high school yearbook instead of don't ever change. Change. I mean, that's all lovely advice Hank and it's a beautiful sentiment. It's just that as it happens his favorite color has not changed. Okay. Alright. Alright, you got another question for us? I have another question, but I almost don't want to move on until you acknowledge that red is a shade of brown. I'm going to type it into Google. Is red a shade of brown. The first, the authorily, I'm not alone in thinking.
Starting point is 00:10:25 The auto-complete was pink, is red, a shade of pink. The color brown. The pink interestingly is not a shade of brown, but yeah. Oh, I mean, there's a Wikipedia page called Shades of Brown. And it is just, it's Amber Beaver, beige, buff, burnt sea, burnt umber, chestnut chocolate, cocoa brown, desert sand, and you're still in umber, chestnut chocolate, cocoa brown, desert sand. I mean, you're still in the seas, Hank, just scroll down to red.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Peru, raw umber, rosy brown, russet sandy brown, smoky tope has tan tope and wood. Oh yeah, no, that's the one. It's russet sandy brown. That's that they call that. That's what some people call red. Let's move on to another question before I get proven wrong. This question is from Trisha. OK. Who asks, dear John and Hank, you two have established a few rules throughout the podcast,
Starting point is 00:11:13 namely, when one is allowed to use the phrase turn of the century, and who gets which arm rest. And I have run into another scenario that could use your expertise. At which point in the day do I switch from saying, have a good day to have a good night? Any dubious advice would be greatly appreciated. This is one of the great questions, I think,
Starting point is 00:11:32 of being alive. The first thing that I would say is, I don't know if you're familiar with Wheaton's Law, it has a curse word in it, so I don't wanna say it because my kid listens to this podcast and presumably other kids. Sure. But Wheaton's Law is essentially don't be a jerk.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Mm-hmm. Right, the other day, I was on a jog, and I passed someone, and you know, when you pass someone when you're jogging, you don't have a lot of time to interact, but you wanna be polite. So I said, morning, I didn't say good morning, I just said morning, as an acknowledgement
Starting point is 00:12:03 of a way of saying hello. Right Right also an acknowledgement of the time of day It was morning and the birth of person is like agreed. It is that exactly so the way the conversation should go is you say morning The other person says morning or hello or whatever it is that they want to say in this passing jogging moment But what the person said instead was its 1202. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You're going seven miles an hour. I'm going 5.2 miles per hour. Like the conversation is about to end. Why did you need to do that? What did, who, who is the victor? Oh, wow, wow, I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I love that so much. John, you know, I find it very difficult to say the right thing in these situations, like not in that situation, but when I'm saying like, when it's Friday and I'm saying goodbye to someone, a traditional thing to say is have a nice weekend Knowing that it is Friday and that the weekend is coming up is way beyond my cognitive ability
Starting point is 00:13:14 Like I am so focused on just trying to have a Positive interaction with another human that knowing what day of the week it is is way outside Of my abilities. So, like- It's funny you should mention that because I'm actually strongly opposed to have a good weekend. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah, because, so when Sarah and I first started dating, she managed an art gallery, and her working hours were Tuesday to Saturday, and in fact, a lot of people's working hours are not in traditional weekends and when people would say on Friday afternoon to Sarah have a good weekend it was like a crushing attack. It was like a reminder that she had to go to work at 730 in the morning on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Right. But oftentimes I'm saying this to people who I employ and who I am. Letting go for their time that they get to have on their own. So I do know what their schedules are. I think that, oh, hopefully none of them work the weekends for other companies, that would be a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:14:15 But I, yeah, and in the same way, when you're at a movie theater and they say enjoy the movie and you're like, you too, because like, I don't know, I don't know what I'm saying. I can't control. And like the idea that I'm going to know whether it's have a good day or have a good night, I don't know what time it is. I can't of of the things that I'm trying to deal with right now, whether it's four o'clock or six o'clock is especially during the summer in Montana when the sun goes down at like nine thirty, you just, no one knows.
Starting point is 00:14:51 No one knows what time it is. No one knows if it's day or night. But I do have an opinion on this. Of course you do. The fact that you are yourself totally unable to process any such information doesn't keep you from having a strong opinion. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Well, it's not a strong opinion. I think the great thing about have a good day and have a good night is that they overlap significantly. And you can say have a good day up to like seven o'clock and you can say have a good night anywhere after five. I think you can say have a good day as long as it is still light and I think you can say have a good night I agree starting at 5pm So sometimes there's no crossover like in winter in Indianapolis, you know
Starting point is 00:15:34 When the sun sets at 4.45 That's one thing, but in summertime I agree you've got have a good day as long as the sun is out and have a good night Starting at the end of the traditional work day 5pm agreed? Yeah, yeah, or I think I think that if somebody's leaving work early, you could still say have a good night Because it's not like it's not like it has to be night for them to have a good one I'm wishing you a good night whenever that occurs. Yeah, so I think we're settled There's a lot of overlap, and also we need in general to be understanding
Starting point is 00:16:08 of each other when it comes to conversational slipups. I mean, how does that person jogging even know what time it is? Did they have a thing that says in their brain like every time an hour, like admit it changes? It's like, it's 12-0-1, Jeremy. It's 12-0-2, Jeremy. It's 12-0-2, Jeremy. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:16:26 You know how you have those little conversations with strangers that stick with you for a long, long time because something, some part of it didn't go well? I have a bunch of those, and you know, you circle back to them at night when you can't fall asleep. Can I tell you another one? It's super embarrassing. Okay. Should I have a friend? He's's a journalist and he's reporting on the New York
Starting point is 00:16:47 Knicks and he came to Indianapolis to watch a Knicks game where they were playing the Indianapolis Pacers, my hometown NBA team, and he was like, do you want to go to the game? And I was like, sure. And then after the game, he was like, do you want to go to the locker room? And I was like, yeah. And so I got to go to the locker room, it was really cool, and it was a good experience, and when you get to the locker room, you know, there's all these NBA players, very large, strong people, and lots of coaches and stuff, and I noticed that there was also a lot of food, specifically there was like some pulled pork and rice and some food from a local restaurant and it was looked really good.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And so I just grabbed a plate and I started piling food onto my plate because I was like, you know, whatever, free food. And turns out that food is for the players. So a guy comes up to me and he says, excuse me, who are you? And I was like, oh'm john green ha ha ha ha ha ha and like i guess like that that line doesn't go quite as far in the world of the nba is it might go you know other places and uh... and he he he is replied to me saying i'm john green was who is that and i was like
Starting point is 00:18:00 uh... i'm i'm with my friend and i named my friend and he was like he was like and and i was like, I'm with my friend, and I named my friend, and he was like, and, and I was like, and he said I could come in here, and he was like, oh, you can come in here. It's just that that food is for the players, and I was like, oh, who is that? Who is that, though?
Starting point is 00:18:21 Oh, and I essentially essentially every day in the years since that happened to me, I have spent at least 30 or 40 seconds feeling regret about that whole interaction. Well, I'm glad to know that about you. I'm sorry that that happened to you, but we all have those moments, don't we? Except for me, I don't have any. I hope that we all have those moments. I'm not alone in this shame and horror. Anyway, Hank, let's move on to another question
Starting point is 00:18:49 from our listeners. Alright, this one's from Kate who asks, dear Hank and John, I'm currently watching the Olympic swim trials and wondering, when you swim that vigorously, do you sweat like normal and not notice it because the pool is watching it off or does the pool cool you down enough that you don't need to sweat?
Starting point is 00:19:03 I'm hoping it's the latter because it makes it less gross when they put the water in their mouths. Oh, I bet you sweat. You do sweat. Oh, god, I'm so good at science. Tell me more. Uh, well, yeah, I mean, it's very interesting to, like, you can't notice that you're sweating because there's no actual physical sensation of, like, sweat came out, And now I feel that, you feel the sweat on you.
Starting point is 00:19:26 But if you're covered in water, then you don't feel the sweat. So yeah, you do sweat. And it's funny because you're like technically your body doesn't need to sweat because it's obviously not gonna help you at all. But your body doesn't have any way of knowing that your is submerged in water.
Starting point is 00:19:41 So it still is like, you are hotter than you should be. I will try to cool you off. And this is the technique I have for trying to cool you off, even though it fails immediately. So yeah, you sweat and swimming pools have sweat in them. And when you put swimming pool water at your mouth, some of it sweat. And it's okay, except probably not for John. I mean, it's not ideal for me, but I understand that I'm not coming at it from a place of reason. Let's move on to another question. This one's from Teresa, with the subject line, Hope exists as a velociraptor.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Dear John and Hank, the school year has ended and still I am wondering about a strange rule my English teacher had. According to her, the words, is, are, was, and were, provide no meaning, and therefore should be eliminated from language. However, I think the phrase, hope exists as the thing with feathers, does not have the same ring to it
Starting point is 00:20:38 as hope is the thing with feathers. Please help convince my teacher that the words is, are, was, and were, are, whoops, not the incarnation of evil itself. So Hank. Oh, got John John wait wait wait wait wait. You went for the science question first. So I want to I want to have my go at the grammar question. Okay. Your teacher is dumb. I think you mean your teacher exists as an incorrect thing in the world. Sorry, yes.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Quite. This seems ludicrous to me, like deeply, deeply ludicrous, especially for an English teacher to say. Yeah, I think I know what's going on, but I strongly agree with you that it is ludicrous. Now, there are languages that do not have those to-be verbs in them. It's just that English is not one of them. And we aren't going to change that because so much of the way we communicate involves two B verbs, and that's okay, and it's not the incarnation of evil itself.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I think what may be going on is that your teacher was trying to discourage you or your fellow students from using the passive voice in your writing, but that is not actually a matter of removing all two B verbs from your vocabulary. It's just a matter of not using the passive voice. Hope is the thing with feathers, not an example of the passive voice. So yeah, your teacher is definitely 100% wrong that all to be verb should be removed from English, at least in my opinion, and also I think in the opinion of Emily Dickinson. And really, I'm pretty sure every English language novel I've ever read.
Starting point is 00:22:38 But I also think, by the way, that there are times when the passive voice is perfectly justifiable or even a good idea. So yeah, don't, yeah, that's it. Usually I fall on the side of English teachers, especially when it comes to students complaining that reading a book critically is, quote, killing it or destroying it for me or whatever. But in this case I have to side with the student in favor of to be or not to be, but having some kind of to be verb in your vocabulary. All right, the ability to be. I'm also in favor of the ability to be John because sometimes you stop being and that's awful because it's the end then. You're just trying to work death back into the podcast
Starting point is 00:23:26 so that this can still be a comedy podcast about death. But don't worry, I promise to work it in more organically into the next question. All right, John, I look forward to you working death into this question. Do you, Hank and John, my friend and I recently got into a debate about the correct way to wear a wrist watch? That was difficult to say.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I argued that the face of the watch should be on the top of the wrist. She says that it's easier to glance at the face. If it's on the bottom of your wrist, which is correct, is there a reason for wearing it one way or the other? It's really not matter at all, John. Work death into that.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Well, I mean, it doesn't matter at all in the sense that nothing that we do matters because death is going to swallow all of us in the end and everything that we do will be forgotten by the sands of time. So I wouldn't spend too much time thinking about your wristwatch being this way or that when ultimately to say that it isn't going to matter
Starting point is 00:24:18 is a dramatic understatement because none of it's gonna matter. Right. Well, I also agree that it doesn't matter. It's strange to me because I'd never thought about it, but yeah, it does seem a little more natural to look at the inside of your wrist, like in terms of arm position, it requires a little less torque.
Starting point is 00:24:34 But I would also say that most of the time, the wristwatch is on the top, so that, you know, I think maybe so that when you layer arm down, it lays flat against a table, because you don't tend to layer arm down with the top down. And also, if you have a fancy watch, you want people to see it,
Starting point is 00:24:53 because you spent a lot of money on it. Oh, I thought the question was, should I put my watch upside down, because then, I don't have good spatial intelligence. I don't really understand this question. I'll say it also, like the person looking at you can read it, like the person standing in front of you can read it up right side up, because that's definitely it.
Starting point is 00:25:14 That's exactly, that's definitely the wrong way to read about a watch. I think it's like eating a Reese's. I don't really think there is necessarily a wrong way to wear a watch, although in saying that, I realize immediately that there are a bunch of wrong ways to wear a watch, like for instance, if you wear it around your ankle. Right, don't wear it around your ankle.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Don't wear it on the inside of your digestive tract. That would be bad. Hahaha. Oh man, that would be, it would be not ideal. All right, Hank, it's been a lot of fun in games here, but let's tackle a serious question, okay? This one comes from Marwa, who asks, dear John and Hank, what do you do when you feel like you are not yourself? Like you're watching your life play out in
Starting point is 00:25:52 hindsight or like you're watching a movie and only finding out about the decisions that quote unquote you took from the movie? I know that sounds like insanity, but how do you stop yourself thinking something when the thing you want to stop and the thing you want to stop it with are the same? Ah This is actually I think a big Fascinating Difficult question and something that I struggle with all the time and that Not to spoil anything. I'm writing about every day. How
Starting point is 00:26:21 Do you even understand yourself to be How do you even understand yourself to be you or yours when you are not in control of your thoughts or your feelings or the actions of your body? Like when you talk about you, what do you even mean when the thoughts that are quote unquote yours don't feel like they belong to you or the body that is quote unquote yours doesn't feel like it belongs to you. Like body that is quote unquote yours doesn't feel like it belongs to you. Like how do you how do you make sense of that? And I think the only answer that I have is that it is extremely complicated, but that I don't think it's uncommon to feel like you are not in control of the thoughts
Starting point is 00:27:03 that you have been told are yours, you know? Yeah, we, I've also been thinking a lot about this, interestingly. I recently gave a humorous talk, but one of the, I also like to, like, when I'm just making jokes, I like to mix in a little bit of like, oh, I hadn't thought about that before, but there's that phrase, I think it's Victor Hugo, nothing is as powerful as an idea whose time has come. And I was talking about that phrase. And the wonderful thing about it is that it takes the agency out of the people and it gives it to the idea itself.
Starting point is 00:27:38 It gives us to this conception that yes, requires a human brain in order to express itself, but has power external to any individual human. And you cannot stop it in the phrase. Like it says on its own, like the person itself, like the person having the idea is not the powerful thing. And indeed is powerless next to the power of the idea. And I think that we have this myth in our culture
Starting point is 00:28:06 that we are all individuals and that we make all of these decisions and that we have this... And yes, we do make decisions and we do construct ourselves. But to some extent, we are very much a product of the things that we have been told and consume and the people in our lives. And we all construct that for each other. And I think it's, I find it helpful to recognize that that is a thing and that I am not just me. I am a creation that has, I am a creation that I,
Starting point is 00:28:37 that like my consciousness has been involved in creating, but that has also been created by all of the things that I have consumed and all of the people that I have known and by my parents and the people that I love. Yeah, it's very much a both-and proposition to me, consciousness in general. That consciousness is both something that is within
Starting point is 00:28:56 and something that is without. And it's almost like, for me at least, like in accepting that, there's a measure of freedom. There's also, I mean, I want to emphasize that, there's a measure of freedom. There's also, I mean, I want to emphasize that, you know, both Hank and I come at this from a very, like thinking about consciousness from a very particular and in like lots and lots of different ways,
Starting point is 00:29:16 very privileged position. But for me, being able to say, I'm not in control of these thoughts and I don't want to be having them is very, just being able to acknowledge that is a kind of empowering for me. That way I don't have to be held responsible for every thought that comes across my bow. And in the times in my life, when I felt like I did have to be responsible for every thought that came across my bow, it was very difficult because a lot of times, I don't like the thoughts that I'm having
Starting point is 00:30:00 or I don't feel like I'm in control of them. And I think for me at least, like acknowledging, like, yes, I am an individual, but I am also, like, within a big complicated, endless nexus of cultures and consciousnesses that are all interacting both inside of me and outside of me. There's some freedom in that, and it also makes me feel a little bit less, less like I me, there was, there, there's some freedom in that and it also makes me feel a little bit less, less like I'm, you know, crazy for lack of a better
Starting point is 00:30:31 term. But yeah, I also, I mean, look, if you feel, if you start to feel like you're really not in control of, of your consciousness or your thoughts or your feelings, the other thing that I would say is that it's important to talk about that with somebody who's professional and who knows a lot more about that than Hank or John. So I think that's the other thing that's been helpful in my own life when I've felt like that as I often do. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I have another question that I really want to get to because I think that it's important and I am an expert on this. It's from River who asks, Steerhank and John, I live on the southwest coast of Oregon, and since I was young, I've been told to be prepared for the big one, which is a large earthquake that we are overdue for. This would also cause a devastating tsunami.
Starting point is 00:31:14 My question is, if I happen to be walking along the beach when this earthquake strikes, should I swim out far into the ocean before the tsunami strikes? Assuming that I have no chance of reaching higher ground, should I accept my watery demise or attempt to avoid the tsunami much like boats do by sailing out into the ocean? River, do not swim out into the ocean. I have a one sentence piece of advice.
Starting point is 00:31:40 When the tsunami is coming, do not attempt to swim two miles out into the ocean and then swim back. Yeah. So, if you feel the earthquake, and I do want to give this advice to everyone in the coast of the Pacific Northwest or anywhere where there may be a tsunami, you have anywhere from five to 30 minutes to get to a safe place. You do not know how long it's gonna take. So it is perfectly possible that you could walk at a leisurely pace, up a hill and survive. You don't know how big the tsunami is gonna be,
Starting point is 00:32:15 you do not know how long it's gonna take to get there. You don't know if there's gonna be a tsunami at all. But if you see, if you feel an earthquake and you're walking along a beach, you go climb up that hill and you do it now. So Hank, when River says that the big one is overdue and is coming any day, is that true? Well, it depends on what you mean by any day,
Starting point is 00:32:32 but yes, there will be someday another very large earthquake that hits the Pacific Northwest and there hasn't been one in a very, very long time. And in the geological record. So when you say very large, you mean like terrifyingly? No, really bad. Yeah, like like worse than Hurricane Katrina bad. Oh, Jesus. the geological record. So when you say very large, you mean like terrifyingly bad, terrifying large worse than Hurricane Katrina bad. Oh, Jesus. And it will be very, very bad. And, you
Starting point is 00:32:53 know, the people in the Pacific Northwest are working on systems to make it less bad. But like, there are a lot of people who live in the tsunami zone and it will be very bad. So, know your evacuation routes and know where the nearest highest ground is and head there and if you get stuck in traffic, get out and walk. Okay, so today's podcast is brought to you, no joke, by Hank's Disaster Preparedness Plan by Hank's disaster preparedness plan. Hank's disaster preparedness plan. Do not swim out into the ocean.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Sea guy ground immediately. Hank is not getting, he is very serious about this. This is not a joke. Oh, yeah, okay. I agree. I was recently in Oregon and I was walking along the beach and I was like, boy, if I, the other thing to know is if you see the water getting sucked out, like suddenly water, you're like, why is suddenly the water all gone? That's a very bad sign, and you should climb a tree. Because you do not have a lot of time. So I've just spent some time in Oregon recently, and I always think about tsunamis when I'm
Starting point is 00:33:57 on that coast. Oh, man, who's the one who's preoccupied with the pock-aliptic worry? It used to be me, but the shoe is suddenly on the other foot. Hank, who else has brought us the podcast today? The podcast was also brought to you by the sweat in the swimming pool. A good old fashioned swimming pool sweat. It's in there. Delicious.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Not even to mention the pee, which is also in there. And of course today's podcast is brought to you by Shades of Brown, Shades of Brown, now including red and yellow. And orange. Mm-hmm, delicious orange. And finally this podcast is brought to you by other kinds of powders. Other kinds of powders. Definitely not a euphemism for working in a cocaine factory.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Good old other powders. What's the other powder? What is, I mean, I'm trying to imagine a non-cocaine factory explanation for Emily's life, right? I imagine that Emily works in a bakery and that there's cornstarch and that there's powdered sugar and that there's... Cornstarch is not a powder and powdered sugar is not really a powder. I mean, it's in the name, John. I don't know. I'm very concerned about this issue. It's powdered sugar is not really a powder. I mean, it's in the name, John.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I don't know. I'm very concerned about this issue. It's powder sugar. It is definitely a powder. I mean, if there is anything that I cannot imagine, I am not gonna let you get away with that. There is nothing more powdered, powder-like than powdered sugar.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I don't know why I got so angry. Okay, Hank, before we get to the all-important news from Mars and the news from AFC Wimbledon, which I would just as soon skip to be honest with you, let's get to a few responses from previous episodes. The first, most important thing I want to, one thing we've got a number of responses from is current employees of Amazon, several of them, have written in to talk about how Jeff Bezos is indeed not referred to as a colleague or as a coworker,
Starting point is 00:35:54 but as Jeff. For instance, this letter came in from Mark. In your latest episode, you talked about him, everyone at Amazon would probably call Jeff. Jeff, well, I've worked at Amazon for more than three years and can confirm that this is exactly the case so much so that I've been on a team where people call Jeff Bezos Jeff and refer to the Jeff who works 10 feet away by using his first and last name.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Oh, God. Oh, man, it's hard out there for the other Jeffs. Another response from Jamal who says, I'm active duty Navy and currently stationed in Japan. There is an abundance of Zimas here. Since Hank is such a vehement fan, I'm currently working out the legalities of international shipments of alcohol to Montana. What address can I send them to?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Jamal, that's a great question and an extremely important one mostly because I wanna see how Hank actually feels about Zima, especially if you can manage to send 378 of them from Japan. By the way, I will be more than happy to reimburse you for those 378 Zimas. Unfortunately, our only address is a PO box, because otherwise you'd have to send it to our house.
Starting point is 00:37:00 However, I'm gonna let you know what our PO box is. It is PO box 30152 Indianapolis, Indiana 46230. And you can either address that to John, Green or to Hank Green or just to Zima lovers everywhere. I'm surprised, no, you can't send 378 Zimas from a Navy base in Japan to Indianapolis. That just doesn't seem right. Yeah, the logistics, John, logistics. So we have an actual PO box, is what you're saying to me right now.
Starting point is 00:37:31 We do, we have an actual PO box where you can send us 378 of anything. Please, no less, and also no more. PO box 30152 in the Annapolis, Indiana 46230. Speaking of which, we heard from a listener named Rachel who used to live outside of the Big League 2 factory or something like that, or her friend does. And they have, and they like give out,
Starting point is 00:37:56 if you like knock on the door of the Big League 2 factory, they give out Big League 2 rejects. And so John, you said you wanted 370 packets of Big League 2. Apparently Rachel has the inside track on that. And so, John, you said you wanted 370 in packets of Big Lee 2. Apparently, Rachel has the inside track on that. So, Rachel, hey. Rachel, if you can hook me up, I would be very, very grateful. I can't tell you how much I enjoy Big Lee 2,
Starting point is 00:38:14 or at least how much I enjoyed it when I last tried it in 1984. Yeah, I think that we can say to Rachel absolutely, if you also want to send us a bill for the shipping, we'll handle it for you. Yes, correct. Although, I don also want to send us a bill for the shipping, we'll handle it for you. Yes, correct. Although, I don't want to go down the roadhank of offering to pay for 378 anythings, because it seems like a dangerous, dangerous game.
Starting point is 00:38:37 All right, one last response. This one came in from Annie, who wrote, I have an idea for the listener who wondered what to do with her middle school writings. When I was a senior in college, my roommate and I joked about how terribly we'd written when we were younger, and we pulled up essays we'd turned in as freshmen and laughed uproariously at the quality of our work,
Starting point is 00:38:54 which gave us the idea for the greatest party ever. We held a middle school poetry slam and asked our friends to bring their favorite and or worst writings from when they were younger. That is indeed a wonderful idea. That is a good idea. And I think that's one to hold on to. That's a great idea. I love that.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I think we should do that on the Vlogbrothers channel. Mmm, now I'm gonna argue against that. Let's move on to the news from Mars and AFC Wimbledon Hank. I should probably go first. We'll get this over as fast as possible. AFC Wimbledon are three games into their league one season. They have won no games, but also they have tied no games. That's not good. It's not good. It's not going great.
Starting point is 00:39:32 We just lost to Skunthorp, also lost to Bolton, and before that lost to Walsall, also lost to Peterborough in the football league cup which is a separate competition so we're out of that competition. Four games so far this season zero points sitting last in the league one table. Now one could argue that the three teams that have beaten us are all in the top seven of the league one table. Alternately one could argue that one of the reasons they're in the top seven is because they've all played AFC Wimbledon.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Uh, very, very nervous start to the season here. One piece of comfort, if we'd just won one of those three games, we would be sitting 14th. But we didn't, so we're sitting in last. Mm-hmm. I'm sorry, that does not sound... great. Well, life is long, and so is a season. He said vaguely hopeful. What's the news for Mars? And also a little worried, you've got to have to go through a whole season of this.
Starting point is 00:40:34 What's the news for Mars? All right, the news for Mars is that getting to Mars is hard. The trip, we've done one long-term, fairly long-term trip to another place, and that was to the moon. And you can do that in a little box because it's just a few days to get there. So the people who went to the moon, they just sat in the, basically, the little thing that they shot them up on the rocket with. But you cannot do that to Mars because it takes at minimum six months to get there and then another six months to get back. So you need space, you need space for astronauts to move around to do their research to exercise and also to store all the stuff that they need.
Starting point is 00:41:13 So NASA has just launched the next step to program, which asks six different companies to design and prototype deep space habitats. And they have budgeted, I think, $65 million to divide amongst these companies to design those habitats. Each company has a different set of skills. So each habitat will have different capabilities and usefulness is a big, little aerospace, for example, specializes in lightweight inflatable habitats. So they can like launch up this thing and then just fill it with air
Starting point is 00:41:43 and it becomes a place where people can spend some time. And one of those was recently tested on the International Space Station, so it's a thing that works. So if we ever want to get to Mars, we need a place to live in while we're going there and NASA has taken a big step in that direction to get us there before 2028. That was a terrible bad. Yeah, I mean, you sound about as confident in getting there before 2028 as I sound about AFC Wemble
Starting point is 00:42:11 and Season at the moment. Hard times for lovers of Mars and or the world's greatest third tier soccer team, but, you know, hope is the thing with feathers or hope exists as the thing with feathers. It exists as the thing with feathers. It does. It exists that way. Hey, what did we learn today? John, we learned that, well, I learned that you shouldn't use a humidifier if you have asthma, which is a thing I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah, that's helpful. I also learned that the US Mint does not make any $100 bills or for that matter any bills. They only make coins, which is why they are called a mint. Maybe I could have put that together myself you would think no no I needed help. We also learned that that apparently there are many many many shades of brown and no shades of red. They're all just shades of brown. No there are many shades of red they're just fall within the larger category of brown.
Starting point is 00:43:06 And we learned that Zima still exists in Japan, which fills me with hope that one day, Hank will be forced to drink 378 Zimas to try to prove that he actually likes Zima only to find out that in fact he doesn't. And of course, we learned that despite the fact that neither of us care or are able to implement this advice as long as the sun is up, you could say, have a good day and anytime after five, you could say,
Starting point is 00:43:29 have a good night. I don't wanna say anytime after four. I know, I know, I think it's very fluid and there's a lot of overlap and I just think that no one should, no one should cause any ruckus either way because it's very hard to keep all this stuff straight, John. It's too much. It's just so hard to be a human. Let's just try whenever possible to be careful of each other
Starting point is 00:43:49 and kind to each other. Unless it's 1202 in which case you gotta say. It's 1202 other restrains you're running. Still, it still bugs me, but I'm glad it now bugs you as well. Thanks to everyone who listened to our podcast. By the way, you can go to our patreon patreon.com slash deer hank and john if you want to support this podcast directly. And thanks as always to my actual corporate sponsor, Snickers. I mean, you can say that, you can say, I guess you can say that. I guess you should. Still eating those free snickers, hoping that there's more on the way. But yeah, thanks for listening. Nicholas Jenkins edits this podcast, Claudio Morales, is our intern Rosiana Hall's Rojas,
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