Dear Hank & John - 99: A Fusing of the Hair

Episode Date: July 3, 2017

What do I do if my spouse wants to shave his head? Why are there birds at the airport? What if I'm not as well read as my boyfriend? And more! Email us: hankandjohn@gmail.com patreon.com/dearhankandjo...hn

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to Dear Hank and John. I'm Thor's I'm Furtick of the Dear John and Hank. It's a comedy podcast about death where me and my brother John, we answer your question, give you a degree of advice and bring you all the weeks news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon. Hey John, how are you? I am okay, Hank, I don't know if you're aware of this but I have just announced that I have a new book coming out in October. Oh, yes. That's completely new information to me. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Would you like to ask some questions about it because I'd be happy to answer them? I feel like you're not allowed to answer any of the questions. Every time anybody asks. I'm allowed to answer. I'm allowed to answer whether it's available for pre-order now. It is. And I'm allowed to answer when it is going to be published October 10th. John Aralcopi is going to be signed October 10th. John, are all copies going to be signed? No, not all copies will be signed. However, 200,000 or maybe hopefully slightly more will be signed.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And there's a special ISBN for the signed copies. But if you pre-order from your local bookstore, you should be able to get a signed copy, no problem. That's not a promise because a lot of pre-orders won't be signed. It has a large first print run, but that's what I would do. I would pre-order from my local bookstore if it were me. Uh-huh. I should go do that right now. I'll see you later. This is a good pod, John. I enjoyed it greatly, Hank, and you know what? If you want to cancel the pod so that you can pre-order turtles all the way down my new book coming out October 10th, that is just fine by me.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Okay. Well, I'm not actually going to do that because I feel like I have an obligation to do something else first. And also my local bookstore will be there this afternoon when I go there. So one of the characters in this book, Hank, is a small time poet, you know, like a 17-year-old kid poet, not like a grown-up poet. So I thought maybe I would read one of his poems for the short poem today from the poem.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Oh, that's special. So we're getting a little sneak preview. I don't want to get in trouble with my publisher who's constantly screaming at me, never to answer questions about the book or say anything about it, but I am going to read you this poem that was submitted by an anonymous user, something, something,
Starting point is 00:02:06 something. It's called Last Ducks of Autumn. It's possible that I've read this before, by the way, in an earlier episode of the pod and attributed it to an anonymous user then, too. If so, I apologize. The poem's called Last Ducks of Autumn. The leaves are gone. You should be too.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I'd be gone if I were you. But then again, here I am walking alone in the frigid dawn. Last Ducks of Autumn by Davis. Oh. Was there slant rhyme in that? Is that 17 year old poet really into Dickinson? Yeah, I don't feel like I can talk about that. John just gonna, let's move on to questions from our listeners.
Starting point is 00:02:52 You're not gonna give, that's all the insight we get, John. Okay, this one is from Danny, who asks, dear Hank and John, this is obviously for you. I'm moving to a city for nursing school, Portland, Oregon, that has not just one, but two professional soccer teams. The timbers, the men's soccer, and the thorns. Yeah, women's. Yeah, you knew this, I did.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I've always wanted to have a local soccer team to root for, and I plan on attending the games. But my question is, how do I attend the games without looking slash acting like an obvious newbie? Is there behavior I should avoid? So I don't act disrespectfully as there's some sort of abridged version of soccer gameplay rules slash fouls
Starting point is 00:03:31 that I can look into to understand what the heck is going on. Bath bombs and golees, Danny. Well, I mean, the Portland Thorns were founded in 2012. So... No, I would argue that all of their fans are relatively new to the team. The Portland Timbers are not that much older.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You know, like the great thing about soccer in America is that everybody's new. Just different, it's just joining up right now. It's like fair weather fans and it's like, well, that way it's just this one season. Yeah, I mean, there are the, of course, there are the are the occasional like there are lots of die-hards who will be like oh I've been a timbers seasoned ticket holder since way back in the house the on days of 2009 but I actually find one of the things I really like about soccer fandom in the US
Starting point is 00:04:24 It's is that it's very welcoming and open and inclusive. There's always an element of like, you know, do you even know the rules or the culture or whatever. But the cool thing about, you know, being part of a soccer culture that's relatively new is that it's still forming itself. It's still deciding what it means to be a thorns fan or a timbers fan. And I think that's really cool. So just learn a couple songs and you'll be fine. In fact, I have attended a Portland timbers game and so I know most of their songs. There aren't that many of them. Henry still sings one of them when I root for the timbers.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Which, you know, I don't think it's going to go down in history. Henry still sings one of them when I root for the timbers, which, you know, I don't think it's gonna go down in history as one of the greatest soccer songs, but there, I taught you one, just use that one. You'll be fine, Danny. I almost attempted to ask, like what do people do all game during a soccer game? But, John, I'm not gonna ask that question because I like hockey and I go watch hockey and I know exactly what you do. It's a very similar kind of experience,
Starting point is 00:05:28 I assume. Yeah. Because there's a lot of like, a lot of like, back and forth and not a lot of goal scoring. So they're similar in that way. And what you do is you like get food and you talk about stuff and you like are watching the game, but you're also hanging out and it's not just about the game, it's also about who you go with and the people that you meet when you're there. So yeah, it's kind of strange to think like, okay, I'm gonna become a soccer fan and I'm just gonna sit here for three hours. Right, it's nice to go with friends, for sure.
Starting point is 00:05:57 It's only two hours, that's one of the other benefits of soccer. But it is nice to go with friends, but I also think it's a good way to, you know, it can be a good way to meet people. It's not a good way for me to meet people because I am way too introverted to ever strike up a conversation with someone at a soccer game. But it's a good way for some people to meet people I'm told. Anyway, Hank, I guess the Portland Timbers are our MLS team now, whether we like it or not, that's who we root for. Yep, that's our people. When we root for the Timbers.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And I don't root much. And you know what, that means Hank, that we've just made enemies of the vast majority of American MLS fans. So suck it, people of Kansas City. That's a good thing. Don't even like you, residents of Las Vegas. Not totally sure who has the MLS franchise is to be perfectly frank with you.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Yeah, I feel that, John. I know Orlando has one. What's it called? I believe it's called Orlando City FC, which is hilarious because having lived in Orlando for 12 years, Hank and I can both attest to the fact that not once was it ever referred to by anyone living there as a city. Orlando City is a weird, yeah, that's weird. Yeah, and instead of F.C., like it is in the UK, it's S.C. for soccer, that's the answer. They should have called it Orlando Collection of suburbs. Yeah. S. C.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Orlando loosely knit together community that exists mostly in the form of roads. And collective imagination. This question comes from Mason who writes, dear Hank and John, how do you get a teenager who doesn't want to drive to drive? Thanks, I guess, this is my mom's question, Mason. Wait, wait, who's mom? What?
Starting point is 00:07:48 Mason's mom is wondering, how do you get a teenager who doesn't want to drive? Oh. Oh, so Mason's mom was like Mason, that podcast you listen to, ask them a question for me about you, lazy Mason. Who doesn't want to drive? So I don't think it's that Mason is lazy. I'm just purely theorizing here. Obviously, we don't have a ton of information in this question.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I think Mason is rightly afraid of the power that comes with driving. Sure, it is a very dangerous thing that we do. Probably right up there at the top. Actually, there was a study that came out a couple days ago that showed that preventable deaths in the United States are rising dramatically, not because of our healthcare system or anything like that,
Starting point is 00:08:36 but entirely because of two causes. One being the opioid crisis and the other being distracted driving. So people texting while driving. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's possible. It's possible that Mason just wants to keep texting and correctly thinks that you cannot do that while driving. You cannot do that while driving. I did want to emphasize that statistic, though, Hank, because I think all of us have moments of distracted driving where we
Starting point is 00:08:59 think like, well, this is okay. It's not. It's one of the single greatest public health problems in the world today. It is a very serious problem. Do not get on your phone while you're driving. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see it so frequently and I just, the other day, we were crossing the street and it's a four-lane street and there's one car in one of the lanes stopped, and then the car in the far lane didn't. And so we stood there in front of this car, as this other car, like this person was on their phone.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And I was like, this is me and my wife and my child. And I was just like, you just, like, in a slightly different situation that could have gone very, very bad. Yeah. And I was really upset about it. But to Mason's question, I mean, what, I mean, how long are we gonna have people driving anymore, even?
Starting point is 00:09:58 Like when does it actually become, I mean, for many people in the world, it is not necessary to have a car at all. And already we have Uber, and it might be cheaper for many people in the world, it is not necessary to have a car at all. And already we have Uber, and it might be cheaper for many people to just Uber around, rather than drive, and you have to worry about parking, you have to worry about owning a car, which is an expense, and also work.
Starting point is 00:10:20 You have to maintain this thing, and you have to buy it, and you have to figure out how, like all that stuff is a cost, not just the cost of the vehicle. So, and then soon enough, we will have self-driving cars and then you really won't need one. And it's sort of like imagining the way
Starting point is 00:10:34 that stick shifts are today, like some people can drive stick and I can't. I feel like in the future, there will be people who can drive and people who can't. And it would be just as weird to know how to drive as it is currently to know how to drive a stick shift. I mean, I think your utopian vision of autonomous cars flooding the market in the next three years
Starting point is 00:10:54 is a little unrealistic. I'm just gonna go ahead and say that. And I also don't know that the solution for Mason is necessarily to just wait. Wait! So, Mason, it depends on why you don't like driving. But for me, I remember being very stressed out about driving when I was 15 and 16 because I was like, this car weighs a lot and it seems kind of like a miracle to me every time a
Starting point is 00:11:23 car accident doesn't happen. Like every time I am at an intersection, I am astonished by the fact that this has been successfully navigated by all parties involved. And that is not a bad thing to be thinking about. It is not a bad thing to be remembering in my opinion, but I think like driving gets better, like a lot of things, the more you do it, the less stressful it becomes. So I would recommend baby steps. Baby steps.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I'm a big fan of baby steps, and because you know. Absolutely, John. This question comes to us from Sarah who asks, dear green brothers, I am currently staring at the grace pickled walls of an airport and I was wondering, why are there so many birds in here? How do they get here? Are they pre-check? Is this a thing?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Verba, verba, verba, verba. I don't know what that means, Sarah. I think it means words, words, words. Ah, good, good, good. Yeah, I mean, how do you think birds get places? They gotta go to the airport. That is incorrect. They got it.
Starting point is 00:12:29 They're going on vacation, or maybe it's a work, I don't know, pleasure, business, whatever, all the same reasons people are at the airport. I mean, I'm trying to yes and you, but it's such a stupid joke. I don't know what to do with it. Okay, yes and also, they check their little bird bags. It's fair. Hold on. Yeah, yeah, they check their little bird bags. Yes, and the birds
Starting point is 00:12:56 are, I'm not very good at this game. I was, I was a terrible, like like I was the worst improviser in all of the improv classes I ever took. People would be like, I, what, huh? And I would just, and I would freeze a lot, but not while playing the improv game freeze, just I would just freeze. Yeah, yeah, I apologize, John. I shouldn't have thrown you into that deep dark improv water there with the birds checking
Starting point is 00:13:26 their little tiny birds. The funny thing is all the listeners to this podcast are telling themselves amazing jokes that I should be telling right now, and I'm hyper conscious of that. I'm literally the least qualified person listening to this podcast currently when it comes to making birds and airport jokes, even though I know a lot about airports, the truth is that airports are constantly exposed to air. The weird thing to me, John. It's like, aren't airports like the most secure building we have except for like jails?
Starting point is 00:14:01 Right, yeah. Like, it's not easy to get into an airport. Yeah, the door is just wide. I mean, how hard is it? like, the doors are always closed. The boarding door, the moment the boarding door closes, it cannot be reopened. Believe me, I have asked many times. The jetway is like an airlock, right?
Starting point is 00:14:15 It's like, on one end, there's a door, and on the other end, there's a door, and if there's a bird in there, open the outside door and let it go that way. Also, is there a place in contemporary life worse for birds than an airport? You know, I don't know that that's true. Actually, I think if I were a bird,
Starting point is 00:14:34 I might really like living in an airport. It depends on the kind of... Oh, oh, oh, yeah, living in an airport, maybe, but I'll tell you what you won't like getting to the airport because of all the jet engines that will suck up your body and kill you. Once you're in there, you're safe. But when you're out on the tarmac, that's not a good spot. Yeah. No, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Getting into the airport is one of the most dangerous moves a bird can make. Now, maybe life inside the airport is awesome, although I suspect not. I suspect there's like one bird catcher employed by every airport who's like out there trying to get you and it's like a children's picture book situation, you know? Yeah, yeah, the bird just wants to be free and there's this evil dog catch bird catcher who's like out trying to get It's a great premise for a children's book, but it's not an easy way to live your life Yeah, I mean that you don't get rained on that's's nice. The climate is controlled, and I imagine there's lots of snacks around.
Starting point is 00:15:27 People never finish in their bringles at the airport. But... Sure. Which is why, like, sometimes I see like, there's a family. This isn't like one bird. This is like a generation of birds happening here. Oh, I think you've just uncovered what it is, Hank. What is it?
Starting point is 00:15:42 It's not that birds are always coming into the airport. It's that once upon a time, there were two birds in the airport. And now, years later, we're on like the ninth generation of swallows. Like the swallows that you see currently in the Detroit airport, I assume that Sarah is in the Detroit airport. I've seen birds in a few airports, but mostly in the Detroit airport. I think like the birds that you're seeing in that situation, they have never known life outside
Starting point is 00:16:12 the airport, nor did their parents, nor did their grandparents. Those birds got in pre-9-11 when airports were basically just like open to the world. The Swiss cheese. That's right, that's what happened. We figured it out, we have solved is Swiss cheese. That's right. That's what happened. We figured it out.
Starting point is 00:16:27 We have solved it, Sarah. That's where the birds came from. Also, they're flying to their vacations and work trips. Some of them are in bird first class and some of them are in bird coach, and it's sort of like a weird societal division between the birds. Great call back to your bad joke. This was your question from TJ. Who writes, dear John and Hank,
Starting point is 00:16:45 I've heard that the largest fear from scientists about the polar ice caps melting is the fact that there might be ancient bacteria that we have never been exposed to before inside that would be freed once melted. I don't know that that's the largest fear from scientists. But it's certainly the largest fear from hyper-condriacal scientists like myself.
Starting point is 00:17:05 I was wondering how true this might be and how much of a problem it would cause if we don't know how to combat the diseases that might be unearthed by the melting of the polar ice caps, especially now that we've pulled out of the Paris climate agreement. Sorry for the new fear of possible death, TJ. TJ, don't worry. You didn't add any new fears of death to my life, buddy. I've been worried about bacteria that are hiding, that will be revealed by the climate for literally decades.
Starting point is 00:17:36 So TJ, the situation is depends on what you mean by ancient because like, if there are bacteria, if like co-evolve with their hosts and viruses and fungi and all these things. So, like, if there's something that's like from pre-human times, it's very unlikely that they'd be able to infect us just because we have a lot of systems for dealing with bacteria. But there are concerns. For example, sometimes you have,
Starting point is 00:18:05 you have like anthrax will do this, where like an animal will die infected with anthrax and then it'll get all up in the animal and then they'll get buried under permafrost for a long, long time and then they'll get unearthed and suddenly the anthrax pores are like, woohoo and go off and mostly they kill reindeer but occasionally it kills people.
Starting point is 00:18:23 The big one that scares me is like, smallpox has been eradicated. There is no smallpox on earth, except in laboratories. But can smallpox survive frozen for a long time? It can and has. The last time this happened was like the turn of the last century. So like in the early 1900s,
Starting point is 00:18:42 a body that was infected with smallpox, like I had been buried in a grave, like melted out. For how long? For how long? I don't know how long it had been. I can't, I don't have that information in my head, I wish I did.
Starting point is 00:18:55 But you, yeah, that person, then there were then people who got smallpox from that. And that's a bummer because smallpox is easy to deal with if you know you're about to get it, but hard to deal with once you get it. Hank, on this front though, I just want to say something that I think is generally true, which is that it would obviously be very bad if smallpox came back to human beings. That would be a huge problem. Correct. But we already know for a fact, there is no question that climate change is going to be
Starting point is 00:19:32 a huge problem that affects and likely shortens the lives of many, many millions of people. So I think part of what we're doing when we imagine these kind of apocalyptic scenarios associated with climate change is almost like trying to use human psychology to understand the scope of what we're talking about because it's really, really hard to understand the scope of what we're talking about. It's really hard to understand how small changes over long periods of time will have profound effects on many people, but it's really easy to imagine like smallpox running rampant through a population.
Starting point is 00:20:07 So I think it's almost a way of trying to like, trying to like give it a form that makes sense to us and like makes us feel adequately like, oh, we have to deal with this. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, like, but I don't really like that strategy. I would prefer to say like here's a whole situation. But I also haven't heard scientists being like, the biggest problem we're gonna face is smallpox from global warming.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I haven't really heard that one. No, I just think like on the margins, not not not within scientific communities, but on the margins of people like trying to understand it. I agree, it's not a good strategy. I just think like maybe that's part of what's going on. All right John, this question comes from Emily, who asks, dear Hank and John,
Starting point is 00:20:49 I have naturally curly hair. Occasionally I straighten my hair. If on the day that I die, my hair is straight, will I be buried with my hair straight? Or will it be washed and styled in my usual curly way? Thank you Emily. Well, I really appreciate you coming to us, Emily, with your questions for mortuary scientists.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Because I don't know if you know this, but Hank, just as I was briefly in divinity school before dropping out and deciding I didn't want to be a minister, Hank was briefly in mortuary school before dropping out and deciding that he didn't want to run a funeral home. So I'll just leave this one to Hank. Oh, well, I think like whatever you want,
Starting point is 00:21:30 like write it down first and everybody will do what you want to do. But I think, yeah, that's how it works, right? But I assume most people don't. Most people aren't like put me in this suit and like do my hair this way and I want to be wearing this watch. Yeah, what does your will say? Oh God, none of that. Yeah, definitely not. My will is just like, I believe it says something like just make sure that Hank gets nothing.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Hank will inherit my stereo boom box and nothing else. Hank will inherit my stereo boom box and nothing else. There's a little note inside my will that says, Hank, if you had not stolen and sold my baseball cards on eBay when we were children, you would be a wealthy man right now. But instead, here's my stereo boom box. I just remember, I remember specifically, like when I was young thinking about, like when I was like eight or nine
Starting point is 00:22:27 Thinking about like if I died who would get my boom box because it was like my favorite thing in the world I had like two tape decks and it was you know had big speakers and you could fill it with like 8,000 D batteries and you could take it portable And I remember being like man, I got gotta make sure I know who's gonna get this if I go. Yeah. And like, and like, like, I don't know if you were on the short list, John.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Oh, I don't take it personally, don't worry. I don't feel like maybe you shouldn't be. That doesn't bother me. Yeah. All right. I want you to be happy. And if that means not leaving me your boom box, I'm okay with it. Although I guess you won't be happy, almost by definition.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I wonder what that stereo boom box is doing now. I have a pretty good guess. I have a pretty good guess that it turned out to die before you turned out. I guess that's all right. It is somewhere in a landfill gathering dust. Oh no, I can't imagine it's gathering dust. It's probably sealed to the outside. It probably hasn't been touched by air and and a decade. It'll be discovered in like 2000 years as people are digging through our remains,
Starting point is 00:23:43 looking for a cure to smallpox. Yeah, don't looking for a cure to smallpox. Yeah, don't dig for a cure to smallpox. It'll just get you. I'm just kidding. Smallpox is not coming back. It is the thing I would argue the single greatest achievement in the history of the human species is the eradication of smallpox. And I'm very proud of it. And it's not coming back. We did it. That's right. Let's take take credit where credit is do humans. You got it. You did that thing and that was a good thing. God, we do so many things poorly, but we did eliminate smallpox and we're close to eliminating polio.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Oh yeah. And it makes me think and one day we will eliminate malaria and all of my hope is in our ability to kill things. Yeah, good. It's what humans are best at, extinction. I usually, usually bad, but sometimes we do extinction the right way, John. That's right. We do extinction every way. Poorly, well, in the middle, we've got it covered.
Starting point is 00:24:44 If you need to go extinct, you've found the species for you. Oh man, I've well, boy, if that were only the case, there are quite a number of species that I would totally eradicate. Absolutely. That's true. People are always like, yeah. People are always like,
Starting point is 00:25:00 like all species serve a purpose. Well, like what purpose to tick serve? And I'm like, well, my problem is with your first premise. Not, no, they're like, like, sure, yes, they have a niche in the ecosystem, but like a tick. Like if every tick died, everything would be fine. Everything would be better for everyone, if every tick died.
Starting point is 00:25:21 They exist for their own benefit and no one else's. You know, Hank, we need to start an organization, an anti-tick organization that just says no more ticks. Just humans, you have killed thousands and thousands of species, focus your killing energies on ticks. Let's find a way to make them into burgers, then we'll kill them in five minutes. Are we still talking about birds and airports?
Starting point is 00:25:48 No, I think we're talking about people's dead hairs. What? We're wet. Today's podcast is brought to you by ticks. Ticks on their way out if Hank has anything to say about it. Except for this podcast also additionally being brought to you by amazon.com's new series, The Tick. Based on Ben Edlands comic book series, it's very good and should not be eradicated. You know what, just to briefly pause the sponsorships, Hank, I thought for a second there,
Starting point is 00:26:16 you were going to do our first actual sponsorship by the way. We're going to have actual sponsors on the podcast. We don't know how we're going to integrate it yet, but we finally had some actual sponsors on the podcast. We don't know how we're gonna integrate it yet, but we finally had some actual sponsors reach out to us and we were like, they were like, we know that you're not too commercial and we were like, we'd like to be. So I hope you want us to sell you mattresses slash websites,
Starting point is 00:26:38 slash Amazon's new series, The Tick. But we will make it clear when we're being paid to say something because we'll read the copy in a way that makes us sound like we don't mean it. No, I'm just kidding. We'll make it clear. So back to the point, though, today's podcast is also brought to you by the Portland Timbers. The Portland Timbers, America's number one Oregon men's soccer team since way back in 2009. And finally, this podcast is brought to you by fake sponsors. Fake sponsors, not going anywhere,
Starting point is 00:27:12 even if we have some real sponsors. Yeah, but we are not, we are gonna say yes to some real sponsors because they will be- Yeah, but we're gonna keep doing the fake ones. That's when I said on Twitter, like, are we thinking about it? People were like, as long as you don't give it to the fake ones, because I like that part. No, I'm glad people like that. That's a good, that's positive. Okay, Hank, like, I'm thinking about it. People were like, as long as you don't give it to the fake ones, because I like that part.
Starting point is 00:27:25 No, I'm glad people like that. That's a good, that's positive. Okay, Hank, do you have another question for me? I do. This one is from Meredith, who asks, dear Hank and John. I just recently got into a relationship with a lovely boy, and it's going very well so far. The only problem I have is there's somewhat of an intellectual disparity between us. He's an English major, attending your alma mater, John, who absolutely adores reading and has read more books than I can fathom. I, however, having dyslexia and ADHD, don't tend to enjoy reading as a pastime because it quite literally hurts my brain. I think I've so far been able to maintain the illusion that I'm decently well
Starting point is 00:28:00 read, but I'm afraid he will soon find out that I'm not and be very disappointed. He frequently makes references to classical literature that I know nothing about, and I sort of just smile and pretend like I know what's going on. I know that I'm smart and lots of other ways, and that's valuable, but this is something that's really important to him, and I want to be able to talk with him about it. Please provide me with advice and or summaries of important books that I should know about, which I had a better sign off Meredith. All right, John, the great Gatsby, what's that one?
Starting point is 00:28:28 Gatsby turned out all right in the end. It was what prayed on Gatsby, what foul dust trailed in the wake of his dreams that temporarily hold on. Let me Google the rest of the quote. Ha ha ha. Basically, that's all you have to say though. If you're talking about Gatsby,
Starting point is 00:28:44 you just have to say, you just have to say uh... you just have to you just have to quote that that line what fell dust that floated in the wake of his dreams i didn't even get that part right uh... that uh... that temporary closed out my interest in the abortive sorrows and short winded oations of men who among us does not know that feeling uh... of temporarily the the temporary closing out of one's interest in the abortive sorrows
Starting point is 00:29:07 and short winded elations of men. That's actually one of the feelings that I know the best that I have seen rendered on the page the least. But yeah, that's all you need to know about Gatsby. Gatsby turned out all right in the end. It was what prayed on Gatsby. It was that foul dust trailing in the wake of his dreams. Um, do you need any others?
Starting point is 00:29:38 Uh, what about old man in the sea? Oh, a man goes out to see spoiler alert catches a fish, um, but then the catching of the fish almost destroys him. It's man versus nature at a time when Hemingway believed that somehow, to me, Hemingway, and especially Old Man in the Sea, is extremely, like, constantly contradicts itself. Like it has a constantly shifting opinion on the relationship between man and nature that I find annoying, but lots of people find brilliant. What about like Terry Pratchett's monstrous regiment? Okay, I've only read one Terry Pratchett book. So On a world that is flat and and disc like Yeah, okay That's all I've got
Starting point is 00:30:24 Nothing about just wizards or wars or wizards and other things as well. Other things as well. So one of the like I so I would say actually one of the secrets to this whole thing this this question is that everybody in in my experience everybody I've ever talked to seems smarter than me because I have a different set of like illusions and a different set of understandings than they do. And whenever they say something that I haven't read or seen or looked at or whatever, I feel like an idiot.
Starting point is 00:31:08 But of course, I don't have access to their entire encyclopedia of references. Meredith, I think that whether or not you have read Old Man in the Sea has very little to do with either how smart you are or how effectively you can contextualize yourself in the universe. I just don't think it's that. I say this as a writer.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Like I don't think reading any individual book is that important. Yeah, I mean, I just don't. And I think there are lots of ways to engage intellectually with the world and I bet your boyfriend understands that or else he should. Yeah, I mean, there's something to be said for having shared cultural experiences and that can be any kind of media, but it can certainly be books.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah. But also, lots of people have really great relationships that were raised in different countries and never watched any of the same TV shows or read the same books because they were reading in different languages. It's totally possible to have a relationship without a hundred percent of your interests being shared. I do think that it's good to be honest about that sooner. Yeah. The thing I would just suggest is to find places where you can connect to each other, you know, cultural stuff that you can connect,
Starting point is 00:32:26 whether it's art or TV shows or whatever, and connect. Yeah. And also, like, yeah, don't let it get you to down. If it's like, like, there's, like, Catherine was a big fan, it is still a big fan of musicals and, and also, like, some old movies and will also always, like, sort of look look at me a scant when I'm like, I do not know that thing you are referring to. And she will be a little bit of a little bit proud, like looking a little bit down on me.
Starting point is 00:32:55 But it's all in good fun and does not mean that she thinks that I'm a bad person or that. And yeah. So just because you don't have that thing in common and just because like there may be some polite joshing around it does not mean that like oh you're so like uneducated or whatever. So like and if it's the kind of thing that is going to mess a little bit with your confidence I think also be honest about that with that. I agree. Hank we need to get to an important issue that many people brought up after a recent episode of the podcast.
Starting point is 00:33:27 It's obviously a contentious topic. And one that I think I actually wasn't in on this episode. And if I had been, I think we would have handled it a little differently and maybe a little less dismissively. But I just want to be honest about it and acknowledge the feedback that we got, which was overwhelmingly negative about the biting of popsicles. Connie writes, dear Hank, John and Travis, once again Connie, I was not in on this conversation
Starting point is 00:33:57 so you can just say dear Hank and Travis because I was not involved. I'd like to point out that biting popsicles is a better way to use popsicles if your goal is to cool down. If you wait until a bit of the popsicle melts before licking it off, you are allowing the popsicle to absorb heat from the sun. This means that less of your body heat will be absorbed over the entire eating of the popsicle. Pushing the problem even further, consuming sugar kicks up your metabolism and makes you
Starting point is 00:34:19 warmer anyways. Popicles are instant gratification for little overall gain. It seems like you should be drinking water and consuming hot things instead to make you start sweating. Evaporation is a cooling process. Please check out the links below. And then there are a lot of sources. So there you go. Indeed. Wow. Oh yeah. Cold as. hmm, yes, there are a lot of things. I'll say fine then just swallow a bunch of ice cubes. If that's what you want.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Well, okay, I don't want to raise more hackles though on the biting popsicles issue, so I will just say that I have no opinion on this matter and I think that people should use their popsicles in whichever way they want Yeah, I apologize for everybody who felt who felt that my treatment of popsicle biteers was And I think that that was in the that was in the the I don't know what was oh, yeah Yeah, that was okay. I remember now I yeah, that was, okay, I remember now. I thought that that was like a patron exclusive or something, it wasn't everybody got that one.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Yeah, that was our podcon promotion episode. But yeah, he used popsicles however you want. This question comes from Sarah, who might be my wife, and writes, dear John and Hank, I'm in need of some dubious advice. My husband wants to shave his head. For the past year now, he's been telling me again and again that he just wants to know what his head looks like. But I just want to know what my head looks like.
Starting point is 00:35:52 But what if it grows back different? What if it decides not to grow back at all? What if it looks weird? Also, if you want a reference point, he looks like Hank, but with dark brown hair, I mean, this very well could be my wife. I mean, that's, yeah, that sounds like, that sounds a little like you. PSI haven't seen any tweets from Leon Musselately.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Has he lost his passion for his mission? I wouldn't say that he's lost his passion for his mission because Hank made a big to do about how I would eventually lose interest in Leon Mussel. I'm not willing to give him the satisfaction. That's all I'm saying on that topic. Hank, what do you do when your spouse wants to shave their head so that they know what their head looks like, but you are worried that it will grow back different or not grow back at all? I think that you should be worried about what he will look like when his head is shaved and also
Starting point is 00:36:39 maybe that he will like it so much that he will keep doing it. And you won't like it because maybe it's a real good, maybe it's a good feeling on that just having the air on it. I don't know, maybe it would be, and maybe he just would like to not have to handle, deal with all of the hair coming out of his noggin. But it's not gonna come back weird. It's gonna come back normal and that's a pretty broad set of data supporting that,
Starting point is 00:37:09 including every person who's ever shaved their head. So that you shouldn't be too concerned about that. But I would make sure that it's like, OK, if this is about you just learning what your head looks like, let's together, we will make this sacrifice and we will learn what your head looks like, let's together, we will make this sacrifice and we will learn what your head looks like because that's apparently something. I mean, it's kind of a weird thing to not know.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Now that you've said it, now that you have made this argument to me, I'm like, okay, I don't know what my head looks like. I've had this head my whole life and it has always been covered in hair. I don't know what's under there. There could be like a weird pattern of moles that is in the perfect shape of a turtle, and I would never know.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And so I'd like absolutely, maybe this is something that he just needs to know about himself and he's tired of not knowing it. But Hank, I'd like to point out one thing that's a real consideration here that nobody's mentioned yet, which is that if you shave your head, it will definitely contribute to hair
Starting point is 00:38:07 loss. You will lose all of those hairs. Yes, yes, the hairs will be lost, but it should not inactivate any of the current follicles. I don't know what those words mean. I was just trying to make a joke. I also just want to say that if you do find that you shave your head and you have moles in the exact shape of a turtle, that maybe we could use that for the cover of my new book, Turtles All the Way Down. Yeah, well maybe that, I mean, I can photoshop that for you if you want. No, no, no, no. God, why did you create now? It is an inevitability that someone will make that. And it's terrible, terrible news for me.
Starting point is 00:38:53 This is one of the worst things that came from this week's podcast. Yeah, but I would, if I were you, person who asked the question, I don't have it in front of me, just make sure that you agree that there's a time limit on the head shaving. If you really don't like it, don't like the idea, then, you know, his hair is in some respects, your hair.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Uh, hmm. Ha ha ha. I don't know that I agree with that. Like, I don't know that marriage is a fusing of the hair as well as a fusing of the soul. I don't even really think marriage is a fusing of the soul for the record. I just want to go out and say that I'm not totally convinced
Starting point is 00:39:37 on Hank's position in re-spousal hair. That's how it works. That's how it works. You get the joint baking out, and then everybody is in charge of everybody else's hair. Yeah, nope, nope. Nope, I know lots of happily married people who actually don't have shared finances even.
Starting point is 00:39:53 It's a subject of great interest to me, because Sarah and I have had shared finances since like three weeks into our relationship. So, yeah, Catherine and I used to have a whiteboard where we would keep track of who owed who what and then at the end of the month, we'd sort of balance it out and it'd be like 10 bucks. Right, no.
Starting point is 00:40:13 That's a lot extra work. Yeah, the moment we moved in together, we were like, let's just go ahead and mix all the books together and also just get the one bank account. And in some ways marriage was the smaller step. Once you've mixed your library with someone else's library, it becomes very, very difficult to break up.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Okay, John, I take back my comment about help. Spouse odes their spouses hair. Yeah, great, really good retraction. Hank, it's time to get to the news from Mars and AFC Wimbledon. What is the news from Mars this week? John, if you go on to YouTube, you know about YouTube. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Oh yeah. There is a new video that's that it's basically fan art. As far as I can tell, this was not produced by NASA. There's this video called Vivid Mars, and it is footage of both the launch of the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, and also some of the amazing pictures it has taken on the red, or of the red planet, because it's orbiting the planet. The high rise camera is one of the heaviest, biggest cameras we've ever sent to a planetary mission. together these amazing beautiful images with some really great music and some good
Starting point is 00:41:48 style footage of MRO heading to the red planet. And man, if you just, it's really super HD, you got to like open it up on the full screen monitor or on your TV or something and just spend these three minutes watching this video because it makes me feel very good feelings about us as a species and about and about the beautiful universe that we live in. It's called Vivid Mars. It's on the YouTube channel called K-A-M-I-Cami and it's just freaking gorgeous. It's like wow. They did an amazing, amazing job of putting this together. I will do that right after we get off this podcast
Starting point is 00:42:31 because that sounds lovely. I also have news from AFC Wimbledon. In fact, for considering that it is still the offseason, I have an astonishing amount of news from AFC Wimbledon. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. First off, AFC Wimbledon have a new kit manufacturer, Hank. As you know, all the big clubs sign kit deals with Nike or Puma or Under Armour or whomever. And AFC Wimbledon's new kit deal is with Puma.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Puma, the maker of those shoes that Hank wears every time he's doing a concert. Yeah, I have to wear, I mean, I don't, I usually wear my boring shoes, but when I need to look good, I put on my pumas, it's true. That's right, that's true. That's right, Puma, by the way, is welcome to sponsor this podcast as well if they have
Starting point is 00:43:17 to win the game. But we're very glad to have them joining the AFC Wimbledon sponsorship family, alongside the video game football manager uh... your golf travel dot com and of course me uh... also in news from a fc winbladon uh... dom polian has left the club for Bradford city another striker
Starting point is 00:43:40 leaves the team uh... tom elliott left earlier this season. Now Polion's left. It's a bunch of good, but you know, but you know, but Neil Ardley did say we feel that we are strong enough in that department to let him leave. But I who exactly is making a strong in that department. We still have the Montserratty and Messi-Lyle Taylor. But can he score goals alone? Can he score the 30 or 40 goals we would need from him? I don't know. I'm a little nervous. It's nervous times.
Starting point is 00:44:09 There's been a lot of selling and not a lot of buying yet for AFC Wimbledon. And lastly, probably the most important news. Thank you, may remember that there was a petition by certain people to have the Wimbledon Greyhound England where they only have six-week election periods, as opposed to America, where our elections never end, and then when they do end, the results are in dispute for the rest of all time. In England, they only have a six-week election cycle, so you cannot make any kind of big decision within six weeks of an election, so that you're not seen to be, yeah, so that you're not seen to be like trying to influence things or whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:14 So the decision was delayed and delayed and delayed because of the selection business that's been going on in the United Kingdom. But finally, it came out that the Greyhound Stadium is not going to be listed. That should be the last major hurdle between AFC Wimbledon and Final Real. Let's get some boots on the ground and cut some ribbons and start to dig permission to, for AFC Wimbledon to build a new stadium in their historic homeland.
Starting point is 00:45:42 So that's very, very exciting. Uh-huh. That is, I do it, man. their historic homeland. So that's very, very exciting. That is, I do it, man. So you, so, so what's the thing that they sing? They sing, show me the way to Plow Lane. So they've gone now 25 years without, without a home in their home, you know, they used to have this stadium for many years called Plow Lane and it was taken away from them and and then they had to ground share with Crystal Palace and then the club of course was taken away and moved to Milton Keynes and it's so they sing this song Show me the way to Plow Lane. I'm tired and I want to go home
Starting point is 00:46:18 I had a football ground 20 years ago and I want one of my own and I think the most unexpected result possible from that song would be that they are actually going home to Plow Lane, but that seems like what is going to happen. So they've truly shown the world the way to Plow Lane and hopefully for that 2019-2020 season, Hank, you and I and all of Nerdfighteria will be in that stadium to celebrate their first game Everybody everyone everybody everyone from the whole world. I will charter all of the planes No one can go anywhere on that day on that day all the planes go to London
Starting point is 00:46:57 You look you go to the airport and the birds and the humans are all all only going to London and all the birds will be stuck in the airport Completely unable to go to their destination, wherever that was. All right, Hank, what did we learn today? John, we learned that a nice, cool earth is keeping, some infectious diseases locked away so that people can't get them. And that, thank you, cool earth, you're the best.
Starting point is 00:47:24 You're so cool. Thanks, thanks, cool earth. You're the best. You're so cool. Thanks, thanks, cool earth. You're super cool. We learned that driving is dangerous and scary, but is still currently a necessity for a lot of people. We learned that John was never ever going to inherit my stereo boom box, which now is locked deep silently and
Starting point is 00:47:45 darkly somewhere underground. And speaking of that, we learned that Hank was briefly a student of the mortuary sciences. Now, don't start rumors, John. Oh, sorry. We learned that I may or may not have a bunch of turtle moles on my head. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Thanks for listening to this podcast. You can email us at Hank and John at gmail.com. Send us your questions. We always appreciate it. Yeah. Hank does the credit. It's not me. So I don't know how to do the rest.
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Starting point is 00:49:09 You're my bud, and I'd like, but I guess we have to end it. Not only do we have to, we have to end it, but only so that we can go make a different podcast called This Week in Ryan's. Well, yeah, okay, so it's not over yet. Well, thanks for potting with me, John. And thanks everybody for listening. And as they say, in our hometown,
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