Dear Mr Knickerthief - Guilty Pleasures

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

This week, Jahannah and Sophie dive into your deepest and darkest guilty pleasures.From kitchen confessions and male pedantry to gross-out bodily discoveries, the wonders of people watching and the joy of losing yourself in sad films, plus hot takes on cheese, jazz, contemporary dance and liking (or not) other people's children. Also... Sparrows!If you love Dear Mr. Knickerthief, leave a review and make sure you subscribe to get the latest episodes first.And we always want to hear from you! Get in touch with the podcast on Instagram at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dearmrknickerthief⁠Follow Sophie Craig at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/itssophiecraig⁠Follow Jahannah James at ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jahannahjames⁠Part of ⁠Podomedy⁠, the independent podcast comedy network.

Hello and welcome to Dear Miss Nicker Thief. I'm Sophie. And I'm Johanna. And this is the podcast where we used to read out my diary but now we've opened up the floor to you guys. So now we're going to read out yours.

Enjoy. Enjoy. And remember it's never too much. Hi everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Dear Miss Nick Thief. Yeah, I'm Sophie and she's Jay. She can talk. I don't know why.

She's introduced us. I'm just here. I'm just here to sit here. You take over. We've had a morning. We've had such. A morning. She's in a grump and I think I might have just peeved her off again.

I've been so good through this pregnancy. I haven't had like the pregnancy rage. I think it's just come in today. Everything, we've had so many tech issues. Everything's gone wrong. The lights are hot. She's wearing wool. I'm wearing wool.

The most humid day. But I can't take it off now. I've committed. It's too wet to take it off. It's too wet. It's getting heavier and heavier. I can't take off the wool. So we're committing to the wall.

Jolet. We're going to just go for it. The doorbell keeps going from the bloody voting parties. Oh, reform came to the door. I don't care. I don't, just let me, leave me alone. Yeah, no, she'll say, you don't, don't go enough. I'm going to leave, yeah, no, if one more voter looks on my door.

She will not be voting for them. I will not be voting for you. I will not be voting for you. I don't care who you are. No, slam it in their door. Yeah, my door. I've never seen Jay this flustered. It's quite terrifying. I put false eyelashes on. One of them is in my eyeball.

She's not having a good day. I'm not having a good day. I just want the baby out. I just, I just, I just want the podcast mics to work. I just want my doorbell to be left the fuck alone. There's too much to ask for. And your dog is quite overstimulating, isn't he? He's in the garden. I've got a reactive dog

that we've got to lock outside because he can't take it either and he's setting me off. But today I really want to do this episode because what we've done is we've shouted out on the socials. We've been asking for your guilty pleasures and I've gone through. We had over a thousand comments, replies of your guilty pleasures. And I really want to talk about them. Many times I said, did you?

We don't have to do this today. I'm like, no, we do. We are doing it. We are making this podcast. I was like, okay. I hope I have this kind of determination when I give birth. Oh, God, yeah. You don't have to give birth today.

No, it's happening today. This is happening right now. We're manifesting it at 38 weeks, aren't we? Yeah, I'm manifesting. I'm like three weeks away from 38 weeks. And yeah, she's getting evicted. She's getting evicted with a hot curry and whatever other... Of all the things.

All the other things that she needs to do. But we've had a bit of a week this week. It's been a funny week, actually. Yeah, it's been a funny week. Do you want to share? Well, yeah. So basically, long story short. Okay.

I've got the Mitchell brothers in me. You need to be careful. why you were back. Explain what you mean. You've not had the Mitchell brothers inside of me. No, I haven't. But I was going to say it,

unfortunately, no, fortunately, I have not. 90 now. Are they both still alive? I don't know. Grant's doing, Grant. What's his real name?

Grant Mitchell. No, what's his actual name? Phil and Grant, I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, Grant's doing docks still in it. Oh, right, yeah. Phil, I think he's still in EastEnders. If American listeners are going to be like,

Who and the what? Eustenders is, yeah, all of all three of our American listeners. It's a public, popular, British, so. Everyone knows what Eustenders are. They're these two brothers with shaved heads. Yeah. Still, this isn't clarifying anything. Basically, I've had a bit of a health scare, but the last five years, isn't it?

I've been like back and forth. If you're a gal with like a womb issues. A womb issues, you'll know. And basically I essentially collapsed at the weekend. It did. In pain. and then had emergency scan and yeah, like, Jay came with me.

I came with her to the emergency scan. I was like, let's check out your wound. Oh, it was funny though because like, it's an internal one. And like, I didn't know. I like, I've had loads of these scans and I still was like, oh wait, it's internal. I was like, yeah, so internal, if you guys don't know,

external is when, like in the movies when they do the ultrasound on your belly. Internal. Right up there. It's like a... It's a wound. They put a condom on it. And, you know...

Yeah, they have a root. round anyway. We're very close. We are very close. And they have this big screen up on the wall so you can see everything. And yeah, a good 10 centimetre, a couple of five centimetre things have just kind of come together. Bulky fibroids. Big old outside of the womb though.

So they're floating around, smacking all sorts. Yeah, they're causing a lot of havoc. They're causing a lot of havoc. And they're 10 centimetres. So they need to come out. So, yeah, that's going to be happening at some point. But we've nicknamed them affectionately. The Mitchell brothers, because they are bulky, bold-headed boulders.

They're big. They need to come out. Anyway. Right. TMI. Might regret sharing that. But if that makes people go and check their womb, I'll do it. We're going to open the diary to your guilty pleasures now because I'm broke so much about sharing it.

She's literally like, she's trying to hurry this up. Okay. So I'm going to get, also we're doing this. Blocking your mic. I'm blocking my mic, aren't we? There we are. There we go. we're doing this completely blinds as well

so yeah each week we're taking a topic that's gone out on our socials on my Facebook page on my Instagram Johanna's Instagram on our podcast Instagram all on the socials and we're putting out a topic you guys are getting in touch and sharing your stories with us

whether that's like on the comment section or you're DMing them and then yeah we take one each week so Jay's taking the one this week and I have I haven't seen any of them. So you don't know what I'm going to say. And then vice versa.

So this week you've got... There we go. Which I'm excited about. Okay. Also, until we get permission to shout out your name, I've left things nameless. Yeah. You know, so we never get sued. Yeah.

But if you want to be, just tell us. Let us know if you want to shout your name after you. I feel like if we're sharing intimate details. Then you guys can as well. Some of you do too. Okay. So this one, we'll start off easy. This guilty pleasure is one that I can associate with because I do this as well.

Oh my God. I like to stop the microwave. What? Oh yeah. We'll let it now. Start again. Dear Mr. Kleefe, I like to stop the microwave.

I like to stop the microwave with two seconds left and pretend I'm diffusing a bomb. What? I do that as well. What? Yeah, you see the microwave like counting down like in the movies

and you have to like stop the microwave before it goes, beep, beep, beep, because then the bomb goes off. Right. and then what? And then you've saved the world from being bombed. So I've done that as well. But what if your rice isn't cooked?

It will be, because you're only doing it of like two seconds left. Don't mess with rice. But like I do that. I like to stop the microwave before the beep. Right. Like I've got there. But that feels like, and that's it. And that, yeah.

So you just take your food out and crack on with your day. I pretend I'm defusing a bomb. And do you know what? They're enjoying it. It's called a guilty pleasure. It's things that you should, that you enjoy. that you really kind of shouldn't enjoy it. It's a bit weird. It is weird. But I'm saying I felt like that was a bit of an anti-climax.

I see you. Now there was a lot of weird food things. Oh, okay, I could get on board with this. Which was weird for me because I'm like, all of them very voming right now with pregnancy. So this person, dear Mr Nickleaf, I enjoy golden syrup and salad cream sandwiches. I get this. What? No, not golden syrup. I love a salad cream sandwich. No, no, no, but we're talking golden syrup and salad.

salad cream. I used to love lettuce and salad cream. That's really normal. That's not weird at all. That's salad cream. What does salad cream go with, Soff? Salad. So it goes with lettuce. I'm so scared of her today. What does salad cream go with, Soph? Salad. Let's it salad.

Master, mistress, your majesty. Maluge. Into the chokie. I feel like mistroated. What does salad cream go with soft? But golden syrup. No, okay, I've heard of, there was a girl back in my primary school. She used to have sugar sandwiches and syrup sandwiches. But salad cream and syrup.

That's like having a salad. It's a salad cream and sugar. I just, we just tried, that's weird sandwich from M&S. Yeah, but that would be like if it had strawberries and salad cream. So in context, for context, Wimbledon's just finished. And M&S bought out a strawberry and cream sandwich. and the first bite, a bit weird,

Johanna tried to bite it and was like absolutely not going to bomb. Probably not the best time if you did try something like that. But I thought it kind of worked. So, no, no, it doesn't work. I'm trying to find logic. I think it's disgusting and gross and I judge you, whoever said my own. Do you know what I like? What?

The difference, different textures in my mouth. Oh, hello. No, no, no, so like. A Maltesea Yeah And a grip At the same time Oh, but that would be

sloshy and wet And crunchy Yeah But it's like cold and crisp Yeah And then just Chocolate-y and hinnacle Like I don't know

I love different textures Or Okay Porri Jorts With like crunchy cereal Well like Yeah You just

I think that's Yeah No I'm trying to find logic in it That's fucking weird Um Okay Another guilty pleasure Dimmis snook thief

I love correcting spelling I enjoy doing it at the time so if someone might misspell something but I hate myself immediately afterwards a bit like wanking over an ex-bird bird being ex-girlfriend Yeah not like a slyt Not like someone's whanking over an actual

Oh, I love a sparrow Yeah Oh, so a great pigeon on my way back from working American bald eagle I get the American bald eagle I mean yeah If you're going to have a bird kink it would be that

pageotic wank yeah so they enjoy they enjoy they enjoy um doing it they enjoy doing it

they enjoy doing what correcting people spelling right okay guilty pleasure but they really enjoy it yeah that's like you've got a teacher kink or something in there yeah you're a bit of a wanker like

it also depends on how you how you correct them. But if you're correcting them and then you immediately hate yourself after, I'm going to say that you're correcting them in quite a patronising way. Do you know what I mean? Your is Y0.O.

No, that does piss me off. Okay. They're there and there. Yeah. Anybody that gets those wrong. And yours, all the yours, tell you what really peeves me off.

What? People that say, I love you all the world I love you all the world Oh like oh my god I love you all the world Like you know when people put like Happy birthday to my little girl

Who's two to Jane It's like she hasn't got Facebook or Instagram But I get it it's fine Love you all the world Mom I'm like that is grammatically Really fucking bad Or like when somebody says like Oh um

In all the world Yeah all the love in the world Oh I love you Like I don't know as much as the world I don't know Like you put all the world and it's like, no. There's another one that I really, really piece me off. When people use the word what instead of that.

So like, like that could have been or like that what. Oh, like people use the word what wrong. Like I'm like, I can't think of an example. So like, oh yeah, like that man what was at the park. Oh, he was what was there. Yeah, that man what was at the park. And I'm like, sorry, the man that was at the park, not what was at the park. Like, just grammar really peeps me off

And it's not a guilty pleasure Like, it like angers me to the call I feel like, did you write that one in? Potentially. Might have been Sophie else. However, I don't want Cobra Sparrows, so. That's not you, okay. That's not me.

An imposter. Guilty pleasure though, yeah, I get that. That is a bit of a guilty pleasure. But only if they correct it because I would still be really peeped off. Okay, we're going to get a bit more gross now. So, dear Mr. Nick Thief, I love extracting in grown hairs

Love that. Love that. When it's really long and curling. Love that. Or when you like, you squeeze it and it like comes out like a worm. Yeah. Like all that white stuff or like when the tip of it's a little bit black. So it's been there a little while.

It's a little bit dried. And it comes out. Oh my God. Do you remember that one I got on your back? Which one? Yes. And you were like, I've had this lump. She was like...

For nine years. She was like, I've had this lump on my back for age. And I tried to get my boyfriend to look at it. and like he can't say anything it's just a lump and I was like so I looked at it and I was like Jay there's like a tiny little head on it and she was like it's there

and I was like let me just try and squeeze it best day of my life that was big it was the best we were in your living room right here like every time I squeeze it we're like like because it just more and more kept coming

but it was like full on like spiraling out honest that never felt sexier that was like the hunchback of knock you With my nine-foot hair coming out of my back. No, it wasn't a hair. It was just pure, beautiful... Mush.

It was... Piesta resistance. I remember that now. I filmed it. I felt like cleansed. I felt baptized. Yeah. She was about four stone lighter.

It was big. I felt like Dr. Pimple Popper. Thank God it was you and not the boyfriend. Because I might... Well, he looked. He didn't look at it with the eyes that I was like, No, no, no, no, no. I know what this is. Equally, I agree with the next one. Dear Mr. Nick Thief, I like watching earwax extraction videos.

And I love a bit of that. I don't watch them. I do. But my ears are a funny shit. Oh, yes, they are. Yeah, so I have to have that done quite often. I'm giving far too much information about myself today. Like, I've got the Mitchell Provers, I've got waxy ears, like, no. So, no, but your ears are slanted. They're like, So like down, right?

Yeah, your ear canals slope, right? But mine have a little... You impress the ear doctors every time. Every time, whoa. They're like, that is a kind of a man that works on a building site. We must get a lot of debris. Yeah, and every so often, you get, every few years... I get deaf.

You get a bit deaf. And then you go to the thing. And then they pull it out and then you're like, wow. Yeah. The last time that happened was because I was going really dizzy. And I went and the guy was like, I have not seen anything. like this for a very, very long time.

And then you have to give you drops, then you have to go back, and then, yeah. And I always take a picture of it and send you. Yeah, compacted. Little balls of it, because I know you enjoy it. I do. Do you remember that time I had to root inside your ear when you lost your hearing aid. Oh, yeah. I always get my hearing aid domes,

little plastic things on the end of the hearing aid. They get stuck sometimes in my ear, and then they go right in, and it's really scary because you think that's it, it's gone forever. gone forever, yeah. You've pulled one or two out. The ear doctor, when they were cleaning my ears, pulled one out. They had been in there for months.

I didn't know. These are the adult things you're not told that you need to get your ears cleaned. Like, you don't get told this. But I remember you came around to my flat once and you were like, I need to pull it out. And I got the tiniest tweezers and I pulled it out. And then there was that time you had that little camera. And I was rooting inside your ear for ages.

And it wasn't anything in there. But we thought, because I could see your eardrum, couldn't I? But we didn't know if that was the door? on that. Yeah. Because I've got prosthetic hearing bones in my ear drum. Oh my god, yeah, and then you went because you thought, what is that? Because it was a bit

of the bone. So I bought an ear camera. Which looked like a tumour. And yeah, and I put an ear camera in, which is a good and bad thing because it's good because you can see in your ear, it's bad because you don't know what you're looking at. And so I saw and I didn't realize that you can see my prosthetic hearing bones through my ear drum. So I was like, what is that? Yeah.

Off to A&E thinking I had a tumour. Because that was what you'd had before. Yeah, and then the E&T, doctor were like, no, that's your prosthetic hearing bones, but that's why they're bright white, that's why you can see them. Yeah.

All the medical information. It's very medical episode. Okay. Dimmus sneak thief. It's a pretty harmless one, but I love changing into a fresh pair of socks. I've even taken three or four extra pair of socks to work, and I change them every few hours.

My feet feels so nice. So nice. So nice. I mean, you do you, babe. What do you do with the dirty socks? Do you have a little bag of laundry at work? That's a lot of laundry. That's a lot of socks to wash.

You're brave as well taking your socks off. Well, they're not, their feet aren't going to smell. Put it that way. We'll smell less, yeah. Should I tell you what my little guilty picture is? What? Sometimes I'll wear the same socks two days in a row. I don't know.

I can understand if you never took them off because then you're stretching the time. Yeah. But if you like actively took them off and then actively put them on the floor sometimes and in the morning I'll just be like because I don't like being barefoot so if they're just on the floor

I'll just pop the socks on in the morning to like walk upstairs if my slippers aren't about and then they just end up staying on for the next day very peasant behaviour Sophie I'll buy you some more socks no I have loads of socks but every time I wash a sock like my socks I always lose one oh yeah

so she must be missing or he might be missing a lot of socks Okay. Right, so then I thought I would add my own guilty pleasures in. Okay. Because, you know. I hope they're gross. Like my sock one.

So, my guilty pleasures, I love dipping McDonald's fries in McDonald's McFlurry. Heard this million times, and the milkshakes as well. I don't like milkshake, but it very specifically has to be the McDonald's fries, and it doesn't work with Burger King fries. No. It has to be McDonald's fries in the sweet. McDonald's. Flurry. I've heard this a lot.

Don't knock it to you try it. No. Elite. And I used to work at McDonald's. So you'd be surprised how many people ordered fries in a Muclurry. Yeah. Yeah. And they would sit in the restaurant. That's my order. When did I work at McDonald's? I was like 16 at the time. Yeah. And they would sit

and they would dip the fries in the milk flurry. It's really common. And but the milkshakes is another one. And it only works. I think strawberry milkshakes a bit unhinged. No, it has to be the... It's the... So I get a a smarty McFlurry and I eat the smarties out of it. Yes! And then I dip my fries in it and it works.

Another thing that I do, dipping, is I dip ginger nut biscuits in hot peach squash. And again, it doesn't work with orange or it has to be peach and has to be ginger nut biscuits. And I dunk. So Johanna is a child. Doesn't like tea or coffee. I don't like tea or coffee.

So she'll have a hot squash. If anybody is wondering what she's referring. referring to you there because she's just like, I like to dip ginger nut in my hot peach. People are like, what are you on about? So my version of tea is hot squashes. Hot cordial. Yeah, like a hot juice. That's not too bad.

There are definitely worth guilty pleasures. Like, I thought like, yeah. I mean, are there more? What, get the pleasure? Yeah. Oh no, food-wise, that's kind of my food thing. But I thought my guilty pleasure movie that I love is the time machine. I think it's from 2002 with Samantha Mumba.

Do you remember that movie? No, absolutely not, but just Samantha Mumba, I remember. I didn't realize she did films. It's the only time. I think she was in it and then never did it. Never again. But I love that film. The Time Machine with the Samantha Mumba.

We need to watch that. Oh, God. Oh, my God. It's amazing. Oh, is it, though? Yeah. I was having this conversation the other day with somebody and they were like, so Johanna is a film.

buff, like absolute film buff. In every film, I think, that there is ever, that's ever been made. And there is this thing. So me and our friend Leanne, like, she often, like, Jahan would be like, I've got this film, we're going to watch it. And me and Leanne would be sat watching it and we're just like, John's like, watch, and we're like, yep, we're watching. You're trying to get too highly ADD B ball.

But, but what is funny is, I think, and I was having this conversation with someone, they were like, oh yeah, when people say that like this film's amazing, but it's actually not that amazing. it's their nostalgia linked to it that's like why they love it and it's like, and I was like yes, I was like maybe that's what it is with Jay

when she says, yeah, this film's amazing and I'm watching it and I'm like, I really, I'm not, I don't get it, but I think it's the nostalgia that makes it amazing for you because you watch so many films. It's also, it's also, no, because I have so many films. Because the babysitter, I cannot get on Bob with it.

No, no. What is it, babysitter and parrot was it called? Adventures in Babysitting. There I go, don't even. Because it's, also it's very, important the way you watch a film. So you have to be distraction. Of course you're not going to get a film. If you're half on your phone, because you're watching something through second screening it, and if you second screen it, it's not going to hit you because

you're going to miss things. And there's like an etiquette to film, like, talking in the cinema. Oh yeah. No. Cannot talk. Talking it. Yeah. Yeah, I won't go, I'll go on my own. There was someone that was like, but what do you think of? Like, I went to the cinema the other day, and there was two girls next to me literally narrating the entire film. Um, there's a Netica. Everyone's paid to be there. It's quiet. It's dark. Focus. And you need to create that same environment at home. It's a phones away, dark.

I'm not in the extreme. My brother has to have all the lights off and the door shut. Oh yeah, exactly. He can't do it unless the door shut and all the lights. So I'm not that bad. You can have a light on or whatever, but but like the focus needs to be there. And if someone's showing you the film, it's like someone's coming and like pebbling.

You know, like when the penguin come and they want to gift you their pebble. Your love language is sending memes and films. Yeah, and so when they're sending you a pebble, being, look at this pebble that I think you're going to like. And so when I try to show you Leanne movies and you just chuck my fucking pebble away. I'm like, you're making us for, no,

not throwing away your pebble. No, adventures and babysitting. If you've seen it from when you were a kid, there's a nostalgia to it. You need to re-watch it as an adult and see whether or not it's decent. It still holds up. Like never ending story. I always thought that was a really good,

film. Then when you watch it as an adult you're like, crazy. This, like, what in the, what drugs were they on? That is a crazy film, never-ending story. So yeah, the time machine, Samantha Mumba I'm getting pleasure from.

And Cine-if, if you like film, people are like but I love it. Samantha Mamba. Right, this is another thing I do. I deliberately listen to sad music when I'm sad, to make more sad, so I can cry rather than trying to like uplift myself, I'll deliberately

put emo songs on and like enjoy being sad. Really sad. That's good. That's quite therapeutic actually. That's quite cathartic. I think that's allowing you to feel you. Otherwise you're suppressing. You said, no, you go, girl.

And it was you that actually taught me how good crying is. Crying is so good. You feel so afterwards. You know when you were a good cry and then you finish sobbing and you go I'm back. I like, see, that's where I enjoy film. Like, I can, if I put on a, I mean, I enjoy film, of course I enjoy film. But, like, if I'm feeling a bit like, I'd rather put on a sad film than a happy film. Time Machine's sad.

With Samantha Mumba. Yeah. I'm just crying at her acting. No, it's like, time she's really sad. It's about a man in the Victorian times She might be really good, sorry Sam Anthemann. She's good. I'm sure she actually is, to be fair. She's a performer, isn't you?

Time machine, I've got to give the snobberstice now. It's a man, a Victorian man, he's an inventor, and he's like a professor scientist, and he's in love with this woman, and the night that he proposes to her, she gets killed. And he then gets obsessed with building a time machine so he can try and go back and save her life.

And he does it, And he builds a time machine and he goes back and he realizes that he could he could save her life a thousand different ways and she was always going to die. Wow. And so his question is, why can't you change the past?

And then something happens and he ends up going a million years into the future by accident. A million? A million years into the future. In a time when the human race is split into two races, those above and those below. I like Down Abbey

Like Like just like Down Abbey So yeah Upstairs and Downstairs And all that is in the Southerners The posh one's little enough And you've got the humans and the Morlocks And

And yeah It's good I don't need to watch it now No that's the that's it That's the premise of the movie And Samantha Mumba Lives a million years in the future Of course she does

Of course she does Okay now here we go I love, I love people watching and judging people. I love that. I love it. I love it. I love sitting on the tube

and I watch everybody get on and I love observing them. Who are they? What are they doing? What vibe are they giving? What are they wearing? Why did you choose to wear that? That specifically.

Love it. And I just sit there and I have my own little... Narrative. I could miss my stop and go for miles because I'm enjoying... like creating a story for everybody. Just observing and judging. Yeah, not like judging.

Not like judging as in like, ooh, ooh, oh, but judging is in like creating a, oh, maybe you might be judging. No, sometimes I'm judging. Yeah, just like, oh, it. Sometimes I am like, whoa, that tattoo. Like, and I love it. It's so a guilty of pleasure. And you're not supposed to because you're supposed to be like, everybody, everybody has their own vibe and style. Yeah.

No, Susan, those orthopedic shoes do not look good. So. Do you remember when you met me in, I was wearing my mum's orthopedic sandals? but I enjoyed that I was enjoying I was being judged for my Rakers I did

they had Dymantes No you've never The first time I met So she was wearing these orthopedic sandals Diamante bar And I completely judged her I was like Oh she's a lovely little chabby

Chab Lady She's a lovely little chab I was like I'm She's a lovely little chab I was driving your van as well Yeah Yeah

Um and I was wearing my exes bomber jacket as well so I can I get that it was like a green yeah I had big aviator glasses on my hair wasn't like a Croydon face with pony tail you did you were giving but like I just needed a big hoops and a chewy and I was there the rakers actually know the rakers the rakers don't go with that

nothing went and a little denim skirt but had these rakers I was like she's not into fashion but um no I really wasn't and I thought I was and yeah but I was also like what 22 yeah and I wasn't really

sure of who I was either like I was you do you know what your your yeah your outfit didn't fit your vibe it was only when I sat down with you and your personality came out and was like oh there she is I got so drunk in that Nando's and you were really drunk as well which was great but but but just like if I just

judging you on what you were wearing judging I was guilty pleasure that's my guilty pleasure I love it Um, okay. And my final one is I love gossiping. I do. Funny, fun story about gossiping. Yeah.

Like, so the reason, I could be completely wrong here, but I'm just gonna go with it anyway. Apparently, like gossiping, like, was a thing that women did to save each other, like back in the olden days. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so like, when women got together,

they were like sharing information. That saved a lot of women, right? And yeah, so that the connotation. of gossip became negative because of what it was doing for the males at the time and stuff as well. So yeah, yeah, being a gossip

and a bitch and that and actually was saving people at women's lives and stuff. It has an evolutionary purpose. Yeah, and yeah, and there's a reason that like it's associated with women so heavily and yeah, yeah. But yeah, but yeah, we should be feared

when we get together because we are powerful. Also as well. It's from the dawn of time. They've been scared of covens and witches, you know, and there's a reason. But then it makes sense why I like gossiping, and it makes sense why everybody loves it. Who doesn't love a little goss?

Everybody loves a goss. Especially if it's like sad or macabre information. Oh, no, no, we love it. Yeah. And there's a reason why there's a word called Shadenfrud, which is German. Ooh. And it means pleasure derived by someone,

sorry, pleasure derived from another person's misfrewd from another person's misfortune. And as humans, we love it. And as an example of this... Oh, I was being like, oh my God, did you hear that Sally's like, oh, Sally's having it. It's like she's been cheated on, she's getting a divorce.

For example, a couple weeks ago, the couple that got caught at the Cole Play concert, cheating... It's gone down the world, but why is... Nobody kept cheating is the most common thing ever. It's kind of boring, but why is because people enjoyed other people's misfortune.

And it's... Do you know what, though? Like, I have a bit of an issue with... this like I get that it was viral it's funny some of the memes have seen are really really funny but at the end of the day like I we both know how it feels to like have you know have a partner not be you know whatever oh it's horrific but I feel because this has been so it was so public and it was everywhere I feel quite sad for the wife and for the children do you know what I mean like yeah it's funny yes it's just that and the other and it's like yeah it's really

embarrassing for the people that were involved and yeah you don't get to behave like that and also that apology that was put out some people said it was real some people say it wasn't real apology because if it was it was bad it was like textbook narcissist yeah yeah like blaming it on cold play and like what should have been a private thing I was just sort of ridiculous

no anyway whether that was true or not the victims of this really are the wife and the children and like that must be really exhausting to see so like yeah so I get in gossip in that sense, I think, it's really, like, it's really good and it is a guilty pleasure, but it is sad sometimes because the collateral of it is like people, the people that don't, yeah, yeah.

But that's the psychology why it went so viral. Yeah, people are going, because, and it's exactly that word, the, it's, we do, and it's why the, uh, similar magazines, newspapers, it's why the Gladiators, the Roman Gladiator theatre, like, Coliseum works so well, because people love other people's misfortune, watching other people. It's why we like, soaps. It's why we like... Oh, we love a drama. We love it. We love the drama. But especially, like it's real.

Like, reality TV. Yeah, reality TV. Oh my God. Yeah, reality TV. Yeah, the magazines, the, like, gossip columns. Like, it's always been a thing from the dawn of time. But initially, apparently, it was, it was there to sort of save people's lives. I could be completely wrong. That might have just been a meme I read on the internet. Not everything is in the internet. It's real.

It's an evolutionary trait. But also, we shouldn't feel so bad, like, if you do like gossiping, if you do derive pleasure from other people's misfortune. It's very normal human psychology stuff so we're normal you're normal. There's Johanna's psychology lesson we have a psychology lesson once an episode it seems

you've missed your calling guilty pleasure's for me yeah what are your guilty pleasures food movies or like activities things that you do that you shouldn't really enjoy doing that you do this isn't my guilty pleasure but I've heard this one a lot

like what's it where you fart under the covers and then smell it yourself, like dutch oven yourself. That's not my personal one. Oh, I've heard that one before. No, that's not my. I thought that is.

I was like, Sophie's going in today. I mean, everybody likes the smell of their own farts a little bit. Yeah, well, I think you can stand the smell of your own, but not other people. No, do you know, there's a psychology thing for that as well. Yeah, I know. Because you like your own, because it's... It's a homebrew.

No, no, it's outside confirmation that you're... alive that you're here. Well yeah. So in the weirdest way you like your own smell of your own farts because it's like an external validation that you're alive. But yeah, no, that's not mine. Just to clarify, you don't like Dutch oven yourself. I don't like Dutch oven myself.

I don't like yourself. But what's your guilty pleasure? I was trying to find time. Like, my guilty pleasure. You must like weird things. I do. My guilty pleasure is... Something's really bad and embarrassing.

Oh, God. A band that you like, that nobody likes. That's not cool. What's not cool that you love? Lots of things. Well, that's your guilty pleasure. Oh, God. I actually can't think.

Or, I was thinking about this, the reverse of a guilty pleasure of, like, things that are not cool that you love, are things that you want to like, but that you don't. Cheese. There you are. So that's like a...

I want to like cheese. But you don't like it. but I don't like it. Fundamentally, I don't like it, but also it doesn't like me. So that's fine. You both just opposed to each other. Absolutely not.

I used to never be able to touch it. Yeah. It was a touch thing. Guilty pleasure. Oh, come on. I've got one. Because definitely with spot popping is like a big guilty pleasure for me.

Yeah. And I love looking at like people's black heads like on their noses and stuff. Like especially like, like I would go up to a stranger on the tube and be like, sorry, can I just get those? Can I? Like if I was allowed, I'd be like,

I'm really sorry. Can I just, there was a guy I used to work with. and he used to have the best massive blackheads just around that little rigumina was there. No. No. And I was like, let me at them. Like, that's your good.

That's your good lucker then. Yeah, I think squeezing people's spots. Squeezing and getting stuff out. Squeezing people's spots is a guilty pleasure. And... So my things that I want to like, but I don't, is Marmite because I always thought it's cool if you like Marmite, but I don't like it.

No. Well, you're vegetarian now as well anyway, right? And it's beef flavoured, isn't it? Is it? Yeah. Oh, okay. Veggie mite. So I don't like Marmite.

Because Marmite and there's veggie mite. I don't like jazz. I want to like jazz. Well, like jazz? I like jazz, I like jazz, I'm like jazz, man. Like I've been to jazz clubs and people have taken me to jazz clubs and I've literally sat there going, this, I don't, this sounds horrible. Oh, I like a jazz.

I like Ronnie Scott's, like, yeah. No, see, I want to be cool and like jazz because cool people like jazz, but if I'm really honest with myself. So no. Some people are like, you like jazz? I don't like jazz. And I want to, but it just sounds, I just, I just, I need order in the music and melody. And I like...

Oh, yeah. No, I don't like the... Scab-d-d-go-d-d-d-da. No, I don't like that. When people are just free-doing the jazz. Yeah. Free doing the jazz. Scab-d-d-d-d-do-d-d...

Oh, that's what he's doing. He's free doing the jazz. I can't like it. Coffee. I would love to be a girly that gets a coffee. I've never been to Starbucks and ordered anything. I never used to have coffee until my divorce. Well, no, I can't...

So for the last couple of years, coffee and I love it. And I'm a bit of a coffee snob now. I can't stand the taste. Never used to be. No, full on coffee snob now. It happens very, very quickly. But I can't stand the case.

One minute, you're crying having an espresso because you've not slept for three years. Three years. One minute, yeah, but you're crying because you've not slept and you're like, I'm just going to drink it. But how did you get past the taste because I vomit? Oh, I can't.

The taste is. A lot of milk, a lot of honey. No, like oat milk. I don't like milk, but oat milk, honey. No. You wean yourself onto it. And then now I'm like, I love a little coffee when I wake up in the morning.

Um, contemporary dance. Love it. I want to love it. Well, I was a contemporary dance. I want to love it and I want to appreciate it and I'm going to piss off because I know people who contemporary dance. But like, I can't, I don't. No, I get that. I don't enjoy it.

I used to love doing it, watching it. I'd be like, this is weird. It's just, like, because it's expressive and it's like a telling a story with your body. Like improv contemporary dance? Opera. Nope. I understand it. I love that you can do that with your voice.

And after 10 minutes, I'm done. ballet, same thing. I was a ballet dancer, I was a dancer. Yeah. But take me to the nutcracker. No, thanks. Everything that you're really good at, you don't tend to enjoy watching.

What, me or just in general? Yeah, just you. Like, you don't like, like, movies and crafts and things. You love acting, and you love storytelling. It's quite hard to get you to focus on a movie. Yeah, but that's because I need, like, it needs to have, like,

I need to have hoovered. Yeah, so. Like, the room needs to be, just so. Like, I can't start work if the house is a mess. Like, I have to have, like... So, I need, if I...

So, if I... So, if I... If I come to my house really well, you'll watch... No, if I come to my house, it's fine, but if you've noticed, it's at my house when I struggle to watch a film.

That's true. Okay, so I'll be... So just remove me from my environment and put me in somebody else, it's fine. If my house is clean and I've not got anything else to do or to do lists or anything,

I'm there. Okay. I think that's quite a common thing. That's interesting. So I'm not throwing your pebble away. all right. I'm just... I can't focus on your pedal

when my house is dirty. I just need to hoover. Other people's kids really want to like them. I think that's my guilty pleasure. What? Liking people... Not liking...

No, yeah, not liking people's children. Actually, specifically, no, there's a select few that I really, really, really like. Like, my nieces and, like, my best friend's kids. Other than that, when it's the school holidays

and the kids are off... Yeah. It's horrible. So yeah, I just other people's kids. Apparently you like your own. Yeah, hopefully you like your own. No, you do. I'm like, you do.

My closest, dearest friends are like absolutely not having children. Yeah. Adore their own and like still don't like other people's. And my final one that I really want to like, but I just, it's not, I'm not built for it. Staying up late, I'd love to be one of those people that is just like, oh, what? It's 3 a.m. It doesn't matter. I'll be up at 6 for work and it's fine.

No. I can't stay up late. You are bad without sleep. I'm bad. without sleep. You get rushes. I get my body breaks. I get like painful spots on my tongue.

I get rashes and eczema and I can't, yeah, I'm really scared about having a baby because I need to sleep. That's a good job you've not got one coming in three weeks, isn't it? I know, it's a good job I'm about to not sleep. But I wish I could be someone that stays up late and like works into the night and burns the candle and I'm like, nope, I'm a morning person. Yeah, I like to be in bed by 10pm. My best, maybe that's an age thing.

My best, my work thing is like in the morning. Yeah. No, and I wish I was a night owl because night owl sounds so much cooler than a morning. Yeah, like in the movies, like you've got the other girls, like working away. And they're taking Adderall

and they're just like, no, no, no, or people who can just like, but I've always, it's not an age thing because I was like 19 and it would be like midnight in the club and they'd be like, where's Johanna? Or she's asleep under those piles of coats. So like, I'd just go find somewhere cozy and I would just be asleep or I'd fall, like,

so I'm not built for the night. I'm not a vampire. One of my guilty, pleasures and I hate it but love it at the same time was like maybe not so much now when I was younger, used to come out of the club and it used to just be

starting to get light and you could hear the birds. And I used to feel like oh this is horrible but also like yes couldn't work out how people did it. I was I tried my hardest I'm not built for the night I'd be struggling by 1pm I really need to be in bed wherever I am. One p.m. 1pm. 1 a.m. My 1pm

that's currently now. I go to bed really early. At 1pm and then I got to a notion I realized that everybody was on cocaine and that's how everybody stayed up Oh, we weren't? Like, you'd be surprised at how many people actually were that you thought weren't that were.

Not like my little group of girls thought at uni. Well, I wasn't. I was just how in life. You weren't, but they're surprised how many people. Yeah, in London. In London. In London.

I was like, oh, that's how you guys are just staying up all through the night and into the early morning and being chill about it and there's me going it's like I can't do it sugar she's there with the Pepsi mucks right we could just keep chatting for about five hours but we should probably roll this up we should roll this up because I'm worried that this the whole time the mic's not been on fantastic so uh that's that for us that was our guilty pleasures of dear miss nickadley guilty pleasures um yeah so uh next episode, I'm going to be sharing with you, Ix.

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