Guilty Pleasures
00:00Hello and welcome toDear Miss Nicker Thief.I'm Sophie.And I'm Johanna.And this is the podcastwhere we used to read out my diarybut now we've opened up the floor to you guys.So now we're going to read out yours.
00:10Enjoy.Enjoy.And remember it's never too much.Hi everyone.Welcome back to another episode of Dear Miss Nick Thief.Yeah, I'm Sophie and she's Jay.She can talk.I don't know why.
00:23She's introduced us.I'm just here.I'm just here to sit here.You take over.We've had a morning.We've had such.A morning.She's in a grump and I think I might have just peeved her off again.
00:38I've been so good through this pregnancy.I haven't had like the pregnancy rage.I think it's just come in today.Everything, we've had so many tech issues.Everything's gone wrong.The lights are hot.She's wearing wool.I'm wearing wool.
00:53The most humid day.But I can't take it off now.I've committed.It's too wet to take it off.It's too wet.It's getting heavier and heavier.I can't take off the wool.So we're committing to the wall.
01:03Jolet.We're going to just go for it.The doorbell keeps going from the bloodyvoting parties. Oh, reform came to the door.I don't care. I don't, just let me, leave mealone. Yeah, no, she'll say,you don't, don't go enough. I'm going to leave, yeah,no, if one more voter looks on my door.
01:23She will not be voting for them. I will not be voting for you.I will not be voting for you. I don't care who you are.No, slam it in their door.Yeah, my door. I've never seen Jay thisflustered.It's quite terrifying.I put false eyelashes on.One of them is in my eyeball.
01:40She's not having a good day. I'm not having a good day.I just want the baby out.I just, I just,I just want the podcast mics to work.I just want my doorbell to be left the fuck alone.There's too much to ask for.And your dog is quite overstimulating, isn't he?He's in the garden. I've got a reactive dog
01:57that we've got to lock outsidebecause he can't take it eitherand he's setting me off.But today I really want to do this episode because what we've done is we've shouted out on the socials.We've been asking for your guilty pleasures and I've gone through.We had over a thousand comments, replies of your guilty pleasures.And I really want to talk about them.Many times I said, did you?
02:19We don't have to do this today.I'm like, no, we do.We are doing it.We are making this podcast.I was like, okay.I hope I have this kind of determination when I give birth.Oh, God, yeah.You don't have to give birth today.
02:31No, it's happening today.This is happening right now.We're manifesting it at 38 weeks, aren't we?Yeah, I'm manifesting.I'm like three weeks away from 38 weeks.And yeah, she's getting evicted.She's getting evicted with a hot curry and whatever other...Of all the things.
02:47All the other things that she needs to do.But we've had a bit of a week this week.It's been a funny week, actually.Yeah, it's been a funny week.Do you want to share?Well, yeah.So basically, long story short.Okay.
02:58I've got the Mitchell brothers in me.You need to be careful.why you were back.Explain what you mean.You've not had the Mitchell brothersinside of me.No, I haven't.But I was going to say it,
03:12unfortunately, no,fortunately,I have not.90 now.Are they both still alive?I don't know.Grant's doing, Grant.What's his real name?
03:22Grant Mitchell.No, what's his actual name?Phil and Grant, I don't know.I don't know.Anyway, Grant's doing docks still in it.Oh, right, yeah.Phil, I think he's still in EastEnders.If American listeners are going to be like,
03:34Who and the what?Eustenders is, yeah, all of all three of our American listeners.It's a public, popular, British, so.Everyone knows what Eustenders are.They're these two brothers with shaved heads.Yeah.Still, this isn't clarifying anything.Basically, I've had a bit of a health scare, but the last five years, isn't it?
03:52I've been like back and forth.If you're a gal with like a womb issues.A womb issues, you'll know.And basically I essentially collapsed at the weekend.It did.In pain.and then had emergency scanand yeah, like, Jay came with me.
04:08I came with her to the emergency scan.I was like, let's check out your wound.Oh, it was funny thoughbecause like, it's an internal one.And like, I didn't know.I like, I've had loads of these scansand I still was like, oh wait, it's internal.I was like, yeah, so internal, if you guys don't know,
04:22external is when, like in the movieswhen they do the ultrasound on your belly.Internal.Right up there.It's like a...It's a wound.They put a condom on it.And, you know...
04:33Yeah, they have a root.round anyway.We're very close.We are very close.And they have this big screen up on the wall so you can see everything.And yeah, a good 10 centimetre, a couple of five centimetre things have just kind of come together.Bulky fibroids.Big old outside of the womb though.
04:50So they're floating around, smacking all sorts.Yeah, they're causing a lot of havoc.They're causing a lot of havoc.And they're 10 centimetres.So they need to come out.So, yeah, that's going to be happening at some point.But we've nicknamed them affectionately.The Mitchell brothers, because they are bulky, bold-headed boulders.
05:07They're big.They need to come out.Anyway.Right.TMI.Might regret sharing that.But if that makes people go and check their womb, I'll do it.We're going to open the diary to your guilty pleasures now because I'm broke so much about sharing it.
05:22She's literally like, she's trying to hurry this up.Okay.So I'm going to get, also we're doing this.Blocking your mic.I'm blocking my mic, aren't we?There we are.There we go.we're doing this completely blinds as well
05:35so yeah each week we're taking a topicthat's gone out on our socialson my Facebook page onmy InstagramJohanna's Instagram on our podcast Instagramall on the socialsand we're putting out a topicyou guys are getting in touch and sharing your stories with us
05:52whether that's like on the comment sectionor you're DMing themand then yeah we take one each weekso Jay's taking the one this weekand I haveI haven't seen any of them.So you don't know what I'm going to say.And then vice versa.
06:06So this week you've got...There we go.Which I'm excited about.Okay.Also, until we get permission to shout out your name, I've left things nameless.Yeah.You know, so we never get sued.Yeah.
06:16But if you want to be, just tell us.Let us know if you want to shout your name after you.I feel like if we're sharing intimate details.Then you guys can as well.Some of you do too.Okay.So this one, we'll start off easy.This guilty pleasure is one that I can associate with because I do this as well.
06:31Oh my God.I like to stop the microwave.What?Oh yeah.We'll let it now.Start again.Dear Mr. Kleefe,I like to stop the microwave.
06:43I like to stop the microwavewith two seconds leftand pretend I'm diffusing a bomb.What?I do that as well.What?Yeah, you see the microwavelike counting down like in the movies
06:54and you have to like stop the microwavebefore it goes,beep, beep, beep, because then the bomb goes off.Right.and then what?And then you've saved the world from being bombed.So I've done that as well.But what if your rice isn't cooked?
07:10It will be, because you're only doing it of like two seconds left.Don't mess with rice.But like I do that.I like to stop the microwave before the beep.Right.Like I've got there.But that feels like, and that's it.And that, yeah.
07:24So you just take your food out and crack on with your day.I pretend I'm defusing a bomb.And do you know what?They're enjoying it.It's called a guilty pleasure.It's things that you should, that you enjoy.that you really kind of shouldn't enjoy it. It's a bit weird. It is weird.But I'm saying I felt like that was a bit of an anti-climax.
07:37I see you. Now there was a lot of weird food things.Oh, okay, I could get on board with this.Which was weird for me because I'm like, all of them very voming right now with pregnancy.So this person, dear Mr Nickleaf, I enjoy golden syrup and salad cream sandwiches.I get this.What?No, not golden syrup. I love a salad cream sandwich.No, no, no, but we're talking golden syrup and salad.
08:01salad cream.I used to love lettuce and salad cream.That's really normal. That's not weird at all. That's salad cream. What does salad cream go with,Soff? Salad.So it goes with lettuce. I'm so scared of her today.What does salad cream go with, Soph?Salad.Let's it salad.
08:24Master, mistress, your majesty.Maluge.Into the chokie.I feel like mistroated. What does salad cream go with soft?But golden syrup.No, okay, I've heard of, there was a girl back in my primary school.She used to have sugar sandwiches and syrup sandwiches.But salad cream and syrup.
08:46That's like having a salad.It's a salad cream and sugar.I just, we just tried, that's weird sandwich from M&S.Yeah, but that would be like if it had strawberries and salad cream.So in context, for context,Wimbledon's just finished.And M&S bought out a strawberry and cream sandwich.and the first bite, a bit weird,
09:08Johanna tried to bite it and was like absolutely not going to bomb.Probably not the best time if you did try something like that.But I thought it kind of worked.So, no, no, it doesn't work.I'm trying to find logic.I think it's disgusting and gross and I judge you, whoever said my own.Do you know what I like?What?
09:26The difference, different textures in my mouth.Oh, hello.No, no, no, so like.A MalteseaYeahAnd a gripAt the same timeOh, but that would be
09:39sloshy and wetAnd crunchyYeahBut it's like cold and crispYeahAnd then justChocolate-y and hinnacleLike I don't know
09:47I love different texturesOrOkayPorri JortsWith like crunchy cerealWell likeYeahYou just
09:56I think that'sYeahNo I'm trying to find logic in itThat's fucking weirdUmOkayAnother guilty pleasureDimmis snook thief
10:06I love correcting spellingI enjoy doing it at the timeso if someone might misspell somethingbut I hate myself immediately afterwardsa bit like wanking over an ex-birdbird being ex-girlfriendYeah not like a slytNot like someone's whanking over an actual
10:26Oh, I love a sparrowYeahOh, so a great pigeon on my way back from workingAmerican bald eagleI get the American bald eagleI mean yeahIf you're going to have abird kink it would be that
10:40pageotic wankyeahso they enjoythey enjoythey enjoyumdoing itthey enjoy doing it
10:52they enjoy doing whatcorrecting people spellingright okay guilty pleasurebut they really enjoy ityeah that's likeyou've got a teacher kink or something in thereyeah you're a bit of a wankerlike
11:05it also depends on how youhow you correct them.But if you're correcting themand then you immediately hate yourself after,I'm going to say that you're correcting themin quite a patronising way.Do you know what I mean?Your is Y0.O.
11:22No, that does piss me off.Okay.They're there and there.Yeah.Anybody that gets those wrong.And yours,all the yours,tell you what really peeves me off.
11:36What?People that say,I love you all the worldI love you all the worldOh like oh my godI love you all the worldLike you know when people put likeHappy birthday to my little girl
11:48Who's two to JaneIt's like she hasn't got Facebook or InstagramBut I get it it's fineLove you all the worldMom I'm like that is grammaticallyReally fucking badOr like when somebody says likeOh um
12:00In all the worldYeah all the love in the worldOh I love youLike I don't know as much as the worldI don't knowLike you put all the world and it's like, no.There's another one that I really, really piece me off.When people use the word what instead of that.
12:17So like, like that could have been or like that what.Oh, like people use the word what wrong.Like I'm like, I can't think of an example.So like, oh yeah, like that man what was at the park.Oh, he was what was there.Yeah, that man what was at the park.And I'm like, sorry, the man that was at the park, not what was at the park.Like, just grammar really peeps me off
12:40And it's not a guilty pleasureLike, it like angers me to the callI feel like, did you write that one in?Potentially.Might have been Sophie else.However, I don't want Cobra Sparrows, so.That's not you, okay.That's not me.
12:53An imposter.Guilty pleasure though, yeah, I get that.That is a bit of a guilty pleasure.But only if they correct itbecause I would still be really peeped off.Okay, we're going to get a bit more gross now.So, dear Mr. Nick Thief,I love extracting in grown hairs
13:07Love that.Love that.When it's really long and curling.Love that.Or when you like, you squeeze it and it like comes out like a worm.Yeah.Like all that white stuff or like when the tip of it's a little bit black.So it's been there a little while.
13:21It's a little bit dried.And it comes out.Oh my God.Do you remember that one I got on your back?Which one?Yes.And you were like, I've had this lump.She was like...
13:31For nine years.She was like, I've had this lump on my back for age.And I tried to get my boyfriend to look at it.and like he can't say anythingit's just a lump and I was likeso I looked at it and I was likeJay there's like a tiny little head on itand she was like it's there
13:43and I was like let me just try and squeeze itbest day of my lifethat was bigit was the best we were in your living roomright here like every time I squeezeit we're likelike because it just moreand more kept coming
13:56but it was like full on like spiraling outhonest that never felt sexierthat was likethe hunchback of knock youWith my nine-foot hair coming out of my back.No, it wasn't a hair.It was just pure, beautiful...Mush.
14:12It was...Piesta resistance.I remember that now.I filmed it.I felt like cleansed.I felt baptized.Yeah.She was about four stone lighter.
14:24It was big.I felt like Dr. Pimple Popper.Thank God it was you and not the boyfriend.Because I might...Well, he looked.He didn't look at it with the eyes that I was like,No, no, no, no, no. I know what this is.Equally, I agree with the next one. Dear Mr. Nick Thief, I like watching earwax extraction videos.
14:45And I love a bit of that. I don't watch them.I do. But my ears are a funny shit.Oh, yes, they are.Yeah, so I have to have that done quite often.I'm giving far too much information about myself today.Like, I've got the Mitchell Provers, I've got waxy ears, like, no.So, no, but your ears are slanted. They're like,So like down, right?
15:05Yeah, your ear canals slope, right?But mine have a little...You impress the ear doctors every time.Every time, whoa.They're like, that is a kind of a man that works on a building site.We must get a lot of debris.Yeah, and every so often, you get, every few years...I get deaf.
15:23You get a bit deaf.And then you go to the thing.And then they pull it out and then you're like, wow.Yeah.The last time that happened was because I was going really dizzy.And I went and the guy was like,I have not seen anything.like this for a very, very long time.
15:37And then you have to give you drops,then you have to go back, and then, yeah.And I always take a picture of it and send you.Yeah, compacted.Little balls of it, because I know you enjoy it.I do. Do you remember that time I had to root inside your earwhen you lost your hearing aid.Oh, yeah. I always get my hearing aid domes,
15:54little plastic things on the end of the hearing aid.They get stuck sometimes in my ear,and then they go right in, and it's really scarybecause you think that's it, it's gone forever.gone forever, yeah.You've pulled one or two out.The ear doctor, when they were cleaning my ears, pulled one out.They had been in there for months.
16:10I didn't know.These are the adult things you're not told that you need to get your ears cleaned.Like, you don't get told this.But I remember you came around to my flat once and you were like,I need to pull it out.And I got the tiniest tweezers and I pulled it out.And then there was that time you had that little camera.And I was rooting inside your ear for ages.
16:27And it wasn't anything in there.But we thought, because I could see your eardrum,couldn't I?But we didn't know if that was the door?on that. Yeah. Because I've gotprosthetic hearing bonesin my ear drum. Oh my god, yeah, and then you wentbecause you thought, what is that? Because it was a bit
16:41of the bone. So I bought an ear camera.Which looked like a tumour. And yeah, and I put an earcamera in, which is a good and bad thingbecause it's good because you can see in your ear, it's bad because you don'tknow what you're looking at. And so I sawand I didn't realize that you can see my prosthetichearing bones through my ear drum.So I was like, what is that? Yeah.
16:57Off to A&E thinking I had a tumour.Because that was what you'd had before.Yeah, and then the E&T, doctorwere like,no, that's your prosthetic hearing bones,but that's why they're bright white,that's why you can see them.Yeah.
17:09All the medical information.It's very medical episode.Okay.Dimmus sneak thief.It's a pretty harmless one,but I love changing into a fresh pair of socks.I've even taken three or four extra pair of socks to work,and I change them every few hours.
17:26My feet feels so nice.So nice.So nice.I mean, you do you, babe.What do you do with the dirty socks?Do you have a little bag of laundry at work?That's a lot of laundry.That's a lot of socks to wash.
17:41You're brave as well taking your socks off.Well, they're not, their feet aren't going to smell.Put it that way.We'll smell less, yeah.Should I tell you what my little guilty picture is?What?Sometimes I'll wear the same socks two days in a row.I don't know.
17:54I can understand if you never took them offbecause then you're stretching the time.Yeah.But if you like actively took them offand then actively put them on the floorsometimes and in the morning I'll just be likebecause I don't like being barefootso if they're just on the floor
18:11I'll just pop the socks on in the morningto like walk upstairs if my slippers aren't aboutand then they just end up staying on for the next dayvery peasant behaviour SophieI'll buy you some more socksno I have loads of socksbut every time I wash a sock like my socksI always lose one oh yeah
18:27so she must be missing or he might be missinga lot of socksOkay.Right, so then I thought I would add my own guilty pleasures in.Okay.Because, you know.I hope they're gross.Like my sock one.
18:43So, my guilty pleasures, I love dipping McDonald's fries in McDonald's McFlurry.Heard this million times, and the milkshakes as well.I don't like milkshake, but it very specifically has to be the McDonald's fries,and it doesn't work with Burger King fries.No.It has to be McDonald's fries in the sweet.McDonald's.Flurry. I've heard this a lot.
19:05Don't knock it to you try it. No.Elite. And I used to workat McDonald's. Soyou'd be surprised how many people ordered friesin a Muclurry. Yeah. Yeah. And they wouldsit in the restaurant. That's my order.When did I work at McDonald's? I was like 16at the time. Yeah. And they would sit
19:20and they would dip the friesin the milk flurry. It's reallycommon. And but the milkshakes is another one.And it only works. I think strawberry milkshakes a bit unhinged.No, it has to be the... It's the... So I get aa smarty McFlurry and I eat the smarties out of it.Yes!And then I dip my fries in it and it works.
19:38Another thing that I do, dipping,is I dip ginger nut biscuits in hot peach squash.And again, it doesn't work with orange or it has to be peachand has to be ginger nut biscuits.And I dunk.So Johanna is a child.Doesn't like tea or coffee.I don't like tea or coffee.
19:55So she'll have a hot squash.If anybody is wondering what she's referring.referring to you there because she's just like, I like to dip ginger nut in my hot peach.People are like, what are you on about?So my version of tea is hot squashes.Hot cordial.Yeah, like a hot juice.That's not too bad.
20:15There are definitely worth guilty pleasures.Like, I thought like, yeah.I mean, are there more?What, get the pleasure?Yeah.Oh no, food-wise, that's kind of my food thing.But I thought my guilty pleasure movie that I love is the time machine.I think it's from 2002 with Samantha Mumba.
20:35Do you remember that movie?No, absolutely not, but just Samantha Mumba, I remember.I didn't realize she did films.It's the only time.I think she was in it and then never did it.Never again.But I love that film.The Time Machine with the Samantha Mumba.
20:49We need to watch that.Oh, God.Oh, my God. It's amazing.Oh, is it, though?Yeah.I was having this conversation the other day with somebodyand they were like,so Johanna is a film.
21:01buff, like absolute film buff.In every film, I think, that there is ever, that's ever been made.And there is this thing.So me and our friend Leanne, like, she often, like,Jahan would be like, I've got this film, we're going to watch it.And me and Leanne would be sat watching it and we're just like,John's like, watch, and we're like, yep, we're watching.You're trying to get too highly ADD B ball.
21:22But, but what is funny is, I think,and I was having this conversation with someone,they were like, oh yeah, when people say that like this film's amazing,but it's actually not that amazing.it's their nostalgia linked to itthat's like why they love itand it's like, and I was likeyes, I was like maybe that's what it is with Jay
21:37when she says, yeah, this film's amazingand I'm watching itand I'm like, I really, I'm not,I don't get it, but I think it's the nostalgiathat makes it amazing for youbecause you watch so many films.It's also, it's also, no, because I have so many films.Because the babysitter, I cannot get on Bob with it.
21:53No, no.What is it, babysitter and parrot was it called?Adventures in Babysitting.There I go, don't even.Because it's, also it's very,important the way you watch a film. So you have to be distraction. Of course you're notgoing to get a film. If you're half on your phone, because you're watching somethingthrough second screening it, and if you second screen it, it's not going to hit you because
22:11you're going to miss things. And there's like an etiquette to film, like, talking in the cinema.Oh yeah. No. Cannot talk. Talking it. Yeah. Yeah, I won't go, I'll go on my own.There was someone that was like, but what do you think of? Like, I went to the cinema the other day,and there was two girls next to me literally narrating the entire film. Um, there's aNetica. Everyone's paid to be there. It's quiet.It's dark. Focus.And you need to create that same environment at home.It's a phones away, dark.
22:38I'm not in the extreme. My brotherhas to have all the lights off and the door shut.Oh yeah, exactly. He can't do itunless the door shut and all the lights. So I'm not that bad.You can have a light on or whatever, butbut like the focus needs to be there. And if someone'sshowing you the film, it's like someone's comingand like pebbling.
22:54You know, like when the penguincome and they want to gift you their pebble.Your love language is sending memes and films.Yeah, and so when they're sending you a pebble,being, look at this pebble that I think you're going to like.And so when I try to show you Leanne moviesand you just chuck my fucking pebble away.I'm like, you're making us for, no,
23:13not throwing away your pebble.No, adventures and babysitting.If you've seen it from when you were a kid,there's a nostalgia to it.You need to re-watch it as an adult and see whether or not it's decent.It still holds up.Like never ending story.I always thought that was a really good,
23:30film. Then when you watch it as an adultyou're like, crazy. This,like, what in the, what drugswere they on? That isa crazy film, never-ending story.So yeah, the time machine, SamanthaMumbaI'm getting pleasure from.
23:46And Cine-if, if you like film, people are likebut I love it.Samantha Mamba.Right, this is another thing I do. I deliberatelylisten to sad music when I'msad, to make more sad, so I can cryrather than trying to like upliftmyself, I'll deliberately
24:01put emo songs onand like enjoy beingsad. Really sad.That's good. That's quite therapeutic actually.That's quite cathartic.I think that's allowing you to feel you.Otherwise you're suppressing.You said, no, you go, girl.
24:18And it was you that actually taught me how good crying is.Crying is so good. You feel so afterwards. You know when you werea good cry and then you finish sobbing and you goI'm back.I like, see, that's where I enjoy film.Like, I can, if I put on a, I mean, I enjoy film, of course I enjoy film.But, like, if I'm feeling a bit like, I'd rather put on a sad film than a happy film.Time Machine's sad.
24:48With Samantha Mumba.Yeah.I'm just crying at her acting.No, it's like, time she's really sad.It's about a man in the Victorian timesShe might be really good, sorry Sam Anthemann.She's good. I'm sure she actually is, to be fair.She's a performer, isn't you?
25:02Time machine, I've got to give the snobberstice now.It's a man, a Victorian man, he's an inventor,and he's like a professor scientist,and he's in love with this woman,and the night that he proposes to her,she gets killed.And he then gets obsessed with building a time machineso he can try and go back and save her life.
25:22And he does it,And he builds a time machine and he goes backand he realizes that he couldhe could save her life a thousand different waysand she was always going to die.Wow.And so his question is,why can't you change the past?
25:37And then something happensand he ends up going a million years into the futureby accident.A million?A million years into the future.In a time when the human race is split into two races,those above and those below.I like Down Abbey
25:54LikeLike just like Down AbbeySo yeahUpstairs and DownstairsAnd all that is in the SouthernersThe posh one's little enoughAnd you've got the humans and the MorlocksAnd
26:08And yeahIt's goodI don't need to watch it nowNo that's the that's itThat's the premise of the movieAnd Samantha MumbaLives a million years in the futureOf course she does
26:20Of course she doesOkay now here we goI love, I love people watchingand judging people.I love that.I love it.I love it.I love sitting on the tube
26:32and I watch everybody get onand I love observing them.Who are they?What are they doing?What vibe are they giving?What are they wearing?Why did you choose to wear that?That specifically.
26:45Love it.And I just sit there and I have my own little...Narrative.I could miss my stop and go for milesbecause I'm enjoying...like creating a story for everybody.Just observing and judging.Yeah, not like judging.
26:55Not like judging as in like, ooh, ooh, oh, but judging is in like creating a, oh, maybe you might be judging.No, sometimes I'm judging.Yeah, just like, oh, it.Sometimes I am like, whoa, that tattoo.Like, and I love it.It's so a guilty of pleasure.And you're not supposed to because you're supposed to be like, everybody, everybody has their own vibe and style.Yeah.
27:15No, Susan, those orthopedic shoes do not look good.So.Do you remember when you met me in, I was wearing my mum's orthopedic sandals?but I enjoyed thatI was enjoyingI was being judgedfor my RakersI did
27:31they had DymantesNo you've neverThe first time I metSo she was wearing these orthopedic sandalsDiamante barAnd I completely judged herI was likeOh she's a lovely little chabby
27:51ChabLadyShe's a lovely little chabI was like I'mShe's a lovely little chabI was driving your van as wellYeahYeah
27:59Umand I was wearing my exes bomber jacket as wellso I can I get thatit was like a green yeah I had big aviator glasses onmy hair wasn't like a Croydon face with pony tailyou did you were giving but likeI just needed a big hoops and a chewy and I was therethe rakers actually know the rakers the rakers don't go with that
28:21nothing went and a little denim skirtbut had these rakersI was like she's not into fashionbut umno I really wasn't and I thoughtI was and yeahbut I was also like what22 yeah and I wasn't really
28:36sure of who I was either like I wasyou do you know what your your yeah your outfitdidn't fit your vibe it was only when I sat downwith you and yourpersonality came out and was like oh there she isI got so drunk in that Nando'sand you were really drunk as well which was greatbut but but just like if I just
28:53judging you on what you were wearingjudging I was guilty pleasurethat's my guilty pleasure I love itUm, okay.And my final one is I love gossiping.I do.Funny, fun story about gossiping.Yeah.
29:08Like, so the reason,I could be completely wrong here,but I'm just gonna go with it anyway.Apparently, like gossiping, like,was a thing that women did to save each other,like back in the olden days.Oh, yeah.Yeah, so like, when women got together,
29:23they were like sharing information.That saved a lot of women, right?And yeah, so that the connotation.of gossip became negativebecause of what it was doingfor the malesat the time and stuff as well.So yeah, yeah, being a gossip
29:38and a bitch and thatand actually was saving peopleat women's lives and stuff.It has an evolutionary purpose.Yeah, and yeah, and there's a reasonthat like it's associatedwith women so heavily and yeah, yeah.But yeah, but yeah, we should be feared
29:52when we get together because we are powerful.Also as well.It's from the dawn of time.They've been scared of covens and witches,you know, and there's a reason.But then it makes sense why I like gossiping,and it makes sense why everybody loves it.Who doesn't love a little goss?
30:06Everybody loves a goss.Especially if it's like sad or macabre information.Oh, no, no, we love it.Yeah.And there's a reason why there's a word called Shadenfrud,which is German.Ooh.And it means pleasure derived by someone,
30:25sorry, pleasure derived from another person's misfrewdfrom another person's misfortune.And as humans, we love it.And as an example of this...Oh, I was being like, oh my God,did you hear that Sally's like,oh, Sally's having it. It's like she's been cheated on,she's getting a divorce.
30:40For example, a couple weeks ago,the couple that got caught at the Cole Play concert,cheating...It's gone down the world, but why is...Nobody kept cheating is the most common thing ever.It's kind of boring,but why is because people enjoyedother people's misfortune.
30:55And it's...Do you know what, though?Like, I have a bit of an issue with...this like I get that it was viral it's funny some of the memes have seen are really really funnybut at the end of the day like I we both know how it feels to like have you know have a partnernot be you know whatever oh it's horrific but I feel because this has been so it was so publicand it was everywhere I feel quite sad for the wife and for the children do you know what I meanlike yeah it's funny yes it's just that and the other and it's like yeah it's really
31:28embarrassing for the people that were involvedand yeah you don't get to behave like thatand also that apology that was put outsome people said it was real some people say it wasn't realapology because if it was it was badit was like textbook narcissistyeah yeah like blaming it on cold play and like what should have beena private thing I was just sort of ridiculous
31:46no anywaywhether that was true or notthe victims of this really are the wife and the childrenand like that must be really exhausting to seeso like yeah so I get ingossip in that sense, I think, it's really, like, it's really good and it is a guilty pleasure,but it is sad sometimes because the collateral of it is like people, the people that don't, yeah,yeah.
32:06But that's the psychology why it went so viral.Yeah, people are going, because, and it's exactly that word, the, it's, we do, and it'swhy the, uh, similar magazines, newspapers, it's why the Gladiators, the Roman Gladiatortheatre, like, Coliseum works so well, because people love other people's misfortune, watchingother people. It's why we like,soaps. It's why we like...Oh, we love a drama. We love it.We love the drama. But especially, like it's real.
32:34Like, reality TV. Yeah, reality TV.Oh my God. Yeah, reality TV.Yeah, the magazines, the, like,gossip columns. Like, it's always been a thing from the dawn of time.But initially, apparently, it was,it was there to sort of save people's lives.I could be completely wrong. That might have just been a meme I readon the internet. Not everything is in the internet. It's real.
32:51It's an evolutionary trait. But also, we shouldn't feel so bad,like, if you do like gossiping,if you do derive pleasure from other people'smisfortune. It's very normal humanpsychology stuff so we're normalyou're normal. There's Johanna's psychology lessonwe have a psychology lessononce an episode it seems
33:07you've missed your callingguilty pleasure's for meyeah what are your guilty pleasuresfood movies or like activitiesthings that you do that you shouldn't really enjoydoing that you dothis isn't my guilty pleasurebut I've heard this one a lot
33:26like what's itwhere you fart under the coversand then smell it yourself,like dutch oven yourself.That's not my personal one.Oh, I've heard that one before.No, that's not my.I thought that is.
33:40I was like, Sophie's going in today.I mean, everybody likes the smell of their own farts a little bit.Yeah, well, I think you can stand the smell of your own,but not other people.No, do you know, there's a psychology thing for that as well.Yeah, I know.Because you like your own, because it's...It's a homebrew.
33:55No, no, it's outside confirmation that you're...alive that you're here. Well yeah.So in the weirdest wayyou like your own smell of your own fartsbecause it's like an external validation that you're alive.But yeah, no, that's not mine.Just to clarify, you don't like Dutch oven yourself.I don't like Dutch oven myself.
34:12I don't like yourself.But what's your guilty pleasure?I was trying to find time.Like, my guilty pleasure.You must like weird things.I do.My guilty pleasure is...Something's really bad and embarrassing.
34:29Oh, God.A band that you like, that nobody likes.That's not cool.What's not cool that you love?Lots of things.Well, that's your guilty pleasure.Oh, God.I actually can't think.
34:45Or, I was thinking about this,the reverse of a guilty pleasureof, like, things that are not cool that you love,are things that you want to like,but that you don't.Cheese.There you are.So that's like a...
35:00I want to like cheese.But you don't like it.but I don't like it.Fundamentally, I don't like it,but also it doesn't like me.So that's fine.You both just opposed to each other.Absolutely not.
35:10I used to never be able to touch it.Yeah.It was a touch thing.Guilty pleasure.Oh, come on.I've got one.Because definitely with spot poppingis like a big guilty pleasure for me.
35:18Yeah.And I love looking at like people's black headslike on their noses and stuff.Like especially like,like I would go up to a stranger on the tube and be like,sorry, can I just get those?Can I?Like if I was allowed, I'd be like,
35:29I'm really sorry.Can I just,there was a guy I used to work with.and he used to have the best massive blackheadsjust around that little rigumina was there.No. No.And I was like, let me at them.Like, that's your good.
35:41That's your good lucker then.Yeah, I think squeezing people's spots.Squeezing and getting stuff out.Squeezing people's spots is a guilty pleasure.And...So my things that I want to like, but I don't, is Marmitebecause I always thought it's cool if you like Marmite,but I don't like it.
36:00No.Well, you're vegetarian now as well anyway, right?And it's beef flavoured, isn't it?Is it?Yeah.Oh, okay.Veggie mite.So I don't like Marmite.
36:08Because Marmite and there's veggie mite.I don't like jazz.I want to like jazz.Well, like jazz?I like jazz, I like jazz, I'm like jazz, man.Like I've been to jazz clubs and people have taken me to jazz clubs and I've literally sat there going,this, I don't, this sounds horrible.Oh, I like a jazz.
36:24I like Ronnie Scott's, like, yeah.No, see, I want to be cool and like jazz because cool people like jazz, but if I'm really honest with myself.So no.Some people are like, you like jazz?I don't like jazz.And I want to, but it just sounds, I just, I just,I need order in the music and melody.And I like...
36:38Oh, yeah.No, I don't like the...Scab-d-d-go-d-d-d-da.No, I don't like that.When people are just free-doing the jazz.Yeah.Free doing the jazz.Scab-d-d-d-d-do-d-d...
36:46Oh, that's what he's doing.He's free doing the jazz.I can't like it.Coffee.I would love to be a girly that gets a coffee.I've never been to Starbucks and ordered anything.I never used to have coffee until my divorce.Well, no, I can't...
36:58So for the last couple of years,coffee and I love it.And I'm a bit of a coffee snob now.I can't stand the taste.Never used to be.No, full on coffee snob now.It happens very, very quickly.But I can't stand the case.
37:09One minute, you're crying having an espressobecause you've not slept for three years.Three years.One minute, yeah, but you're cryingbecause you've not slept and you're like,I'm just going to drink it.But how did you get past the taste because I vomit?Oh, I can't.
37:21The taste is.A lot of milk, a lot of honey.No, like oat milk.I don't like milk, but oat milk, honey.No.You wean yourself onto it.And then now I'm like,I love a little coffee when I wake up in the morning.
37:33Um, contemporary dance.Love it.I want to love it.Well, I was a contemporary dance.I want to love it and I want to appreciate it and I'm going to piss off because I know people who contemporary dance.But like, I can't, I don't.No, I get that.I don't enjoy it.
37:46I used to love doing it, watching it.I'd be like, this is weird.It's just, like, because it's expressive and it's like a telling a story with your body.Like improv contemporary dance?Opera.Nope.I understand it.I love that you can do that with your voice.
38:01And after 10 minutes, I'm done.ballet, same thing.I was a ballet dancer, I was a dancer.Yeah.But take me to the nutcracker.No, thanks.Everything that you're really good at,you don't tend to enjoy watching.
38:14What, me or just in general?Yeah, just you.Like, you don't like, like,movies and crafts and things.You love acting, and you love storytelling.It's quite hard to get you to focus on a movie.Yeah, but that's because I need, like,it needs to have, like,
38:28I need to have hoovered.Yeah, so.Like, the room needs to be,just so.Like, I can't start workif the house is a mess.Like, I have to have, like...So, I need, if I...
38:40So, if I...So, if I...If I come to my house really well,you'll watch...No, if I come to my house,it's fine, but if you've noticed,it's at my housewhen I struggle to watch a film.
38:49That's true.Okay, so I'll be...So just remove me from my environmentand put me in somebody else,it's fine.If my house is cleanand I've not got anything else to door to do lists or anything,
38:57I'm there.Okay.I think that's quite a common thing.That's interesting.So I'm not throwing your pebble away.all right.I'm just...I can't focus on your pedal
39:05when my house is dirty.I just need to hoover.Other people's kidsreally want to like them.I think that's my guilty pleasure.What?Liking people...Not liking...
39:15No, yeah, not liking people's children.Actually, specifically, no,there's a select fewthat I really, really, really like.Like, my nieces and, like,my best friend's kids.Other than that,when it's the school holidays
39:30and the kids are off...Yeah.It's horrible.So yeah, I just other people's kids.Apparently you like your own.Yeah, hopefully you like your own.No, you do.I'm like, you do.
39:42My closest, dearest friends are like absolutely not having children.Yeah.Adore their own and like still don't like other people's.And my final one that I really want to like, but I just, it's not, I'm not built for it.Staying up late, I'd love to be one of those people that is just like, oh, what?It's 3 a.m.It doesn't matter.I'll be up at 6 for work and it's fine.
40:00No.I can't stay up late.You are bad without sleep.I'm bad.without sleep.You get rushes.I get my body breaks.I get like painful spots on my tongue.
40:10I get rashes and eczema and I can't, yeah, I'm really scared about having a baby becauseI need to sleep.That's a good job you've not got one coming in three weeks, isn't it?I know, it's a good job I'm about to not sleep.But I wish I could be someone that stays up late and like works into the night and burnsthe candle and I'm like, nope, I'm a morning person.Yeah, I like to be in bed by 10pm.My best, maybe that's an age thing.
40:30My best, my work thing is like in the morning.Yeah.No, and I wish I was a night owlbecause night owl sounds so much coolerthan a morning.Yeah, like in the movies,like you've got the other girls, like working away.And they're taking Adderall
40:44and they're just like,no, no, no, or people who can just like,but I've always, it's not an age thingbecause I was like 19 and it would be like midnightin the club and they'd be like, where's Johanna?Or she's asleep under those piles of coats.So like, I'd just go find somewhere cozyand I would just be asleep or I'd fall, like,
41:00so I'm not built for the night.I'm not a vampire.One of my guilty,pleasures and I hate itbut love it at the same time was likemaybe not so much nowwhen I was younger,used to come out of the club and it used to just be
41:14starting to get light and you could hear the birds.And I used to feel like oh this is horriblebut also like yescouldn't work out how people did it. I wasI tried my hardest I'm not built for the nightI'd be struggling by 1pm I really need to be in bedwherever I am. One p.m.1pm. 1 a.m. My 1pm
41:30that's currently now. I go to bedreally early. At 1pm and thenI got to a notionI realized that everybody was on cocaineand that's how everybody stayed upOh, we weren't?Like, you'd be surprised at how many peopleactually were that you thought weren't that were.
41:46Not like my little group of girls thought at uni.Well,I wasn't.I was just how in life.You weren't, but they're surprised how many people.Yeah, in London.In London.In London.
41:59I was like, oh, that's how you guys are just staying upall through the night and into the early morning and being chill about it and there's me goingit's like I can't do it sugar she's there with the Pepsi mucks right we could just keepchatting for about five hours but we should probably roll this up we should roll this up becauseI'm worried that this the whole time the mic's not been on fantastic so uh that's thatfor us that was our guilty pleasures of dear miss nickadley guilty pleasures um yeah so uh nextepisode, I'm going to be sharing with you,Ix.
42:34Great. So, yeah, guys, if you've got someicks that you want to, like, share with us, poppers of DMand all the socials and all that jazz.Yeah, get involved. Yeah, get involved that way. But yeah,till next time, keep me knickers on.Or not, as you. Or not, if you're me.You've been listening toDear Mr Nicker Thief. If you want to get involved, then you can.
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