Death To Everyone - Death To… Canadian TV & Lesbians

Episode Date: September 15, 2026

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Listener. Hello. Before we start today's episode, we'd like to make you aware of something. We are having a pop-up live recording of death to everyone at Comedy Republic on the very first of October. We have an incredible guest star, Miss Minnie Wang, from Canada's drag race, is coming and joining us live. And you can book your tickets now at Comedy Republic. We'll put them in the show notes. and it'll be starting off at 6.30 at Comedy Republic.

It's an hour-long show. You can see some of the majesty and magic as we invite Minnie down into the bunker. So, please come. Live. Desha. Hello, and welcome to death to everyone. My name's Zelda Moon.

Susan. And joining us today, as always, it's our space car driver, Matt. Hi. He's kind of like a... producer. He's a bit of a producer. And then, uh, he makes her so nice on the radio. Yeah.

You can change the levels when we're annoying and not... The amount of things, he's deleted so many things. The listener won't know, because you'll fix it. He auditions our vocals. I go, uh, note by note and just make sure your timbre is perfect. Mine what?

Your tombr. Now we're just making words. Now we're just saying things. Timbra. Tombra. Tombra. It's Kimbra. Actually. Yeah. Do you know I used to sleep with? No, I shouldn't say that.

Who did you sleep with? Not Kimbra. She's Christian. Well. You were married. No. Someone else associated them. Anyway.

Hello. Hello everyone. Okay. Okay. So, so, so, so, so, so. Last night, Drag Race vs the world. This is the ending on the rest of your life. Yeah.

The finale. And we have our crowned queen, Michael. Miss Marooley, if you're nasty. Congratulations. Congratulations to Michael. I know you listen to this pod. I presume. Yeah, we had our final viewing party at Grouse,

marking the end of our fifth drag race viewing party. Yes. We've done five, five years of viewing parties. For downunders. For downunders exclusively. Yes. Year one, the Beast on Brunswick Street. No longer exists.

Yeah. Year two and three at the Pinnacle in North Fitzroy. It's now under different management, so it doesn't exist. Wait, that hot America guy's not there anymore? Jara has sold the business. Yeah. I didn't know that. It was the viewing parties.

It was the viewing parties. It was what I'd on it. They had such good, big plates of nachos. That was really fun. Year four at Week Wine and a whiskey. That was fun. That was good with Remy, not Remy LeBoe, unfortunately. Still in business?

Still in business. Still in business. Still trucking along. Yeah. Struggling. And this year, we moved. to Grouse. And it's such a fabulous time.

And Grouse took such good care of us. And they never raised an eyebrow at the amount that I was drinking. All the amount of things that I broke. No, true. Zadal, you heretic. And one amazing audience. It was really good.

It was heaving. That was absolutely chocker block. And Smith Street was hooving. I was absolutely chocker block. Are you doing English accents in honour of Michael today? This is it UK. UK wins, everybody starts talking. We're going back to the old country.

Can I say, when I'm at home alone, which is most of the time, talking to like Siri to like turn lights on and off, I always do it in either a British or a South African accent. It's really fun. Have you put Siri on a South African? Yeah, my series has been South African for years. That's incredible. Oh, that's so good. Yeah. Well, at least when the AI overlords come to.

or they'll have a funny accent. Yes. They'll sound like Jeppy. They won't come for you because they'll think you're a friend. That's right. You always spoke to us as we preferred. Wait, do you think all South Africans are robots? Maybe.

Okay. No, they have accents for every, everywhere. Well, they have Syria accents for all sorts of places. Yeah, yeah. Have you tried them all out? They're so wacko. I don't ever talk to Siri. I don't want that woman talking to me.

I don't either, but I like to listen to their voices. Mine's a South African man. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Put them to work. Yeah. What?

So, condolences. There's Art Samson. Yeah, so Art, for those of you who don't know, we were all camped out on Smith Street, which is the gay street in Melbourne. Gay! And it's kind of the last standing multiple gay clubs all in one street kind of place.

Yeah. And so she was on at Ubikyu upstairs where they've been doing kick-ons, which I started with Art Simone and Mum. Yeah. the drag queen, like many moons ago, for season two of Drag Race and Under. But when I was on my season,

I stepped away because, like, it wasn't right, and I was also very busy. But no, it's like they were going to be posting reviews of divas that were my sisters, and I didn't want it to feel like there was any kind of... Conflict of interest. Yeah, and then this season, once again, there was a conflict of interest because I'm a judge,

and so I was, like, I didn't want it to appear like, I'm in cahoots with one of the contestants, So I was like, okay, well, I'm not going to be involved in any of that. But it was a bit of a sad thing because they've been having these fabulous parties up the road. And I haven't been there for any of them. Yes. And this finale night sounded like it was wild. Yeah.

And everyone, like, art was sobbing and, you know, making a grand decrees about the future of drag. And, yeah, it seemed like it was a hard night. to be a Melbourne queen. We thought we were going to hold onto the crown for another year. And also, I mean, Jade and Vab. Oh, incredible. Had fabulous outings,

but I suppose, like now that the episodes out, we know and understand from watching the show for so many yards that they both knew that they weren't ever going to win. Yes. So Prad had much more time to come to that conclusion and make peace with such a thing. but yeah poor art really wore her heart on her sleeve last night

yeah and yeah much love to you aunt simon yes and to obviously the incredible jade and vibe who just i mean they did such an amazing job i actually need to message vibe and it was a very emotional episode um just watching it back because i remember that finale day just being like it was last day of camp kind of feeling and everything just as soon as I saw vibe, I was just like gone. And I think a lot of the footage that they cut from the, like, because we're all crying that whole feedback session.

But I think it all really kicked off when we started crying. Yeah. Talking to each other and I was like, you're an amazing person. It was so genuine and I really read like that, which was really beautiful. I think you had such a close journey together on your season. And it was really... It was so, like, yeah. And like, I remember so distinctly this time,

well, not this time last year, but when we had our finale, like the grace, because like we'd spent a day and a half together, me, vibe and Mandy. Yeah. And Freya. Is Freya there?

Yes, yes. No, sorry Freya. But we were doing press in the lead up to the finale screening. so we're in Sydney running around. Yes. And then it was just like we'd all like had some fabulous time to bond, but it was like Vibe and I were really like stressed. Like, but we kind of had to keep it to ourselves,

that feeling of like, am I going to win or you're going to win? Am I going to win? Am I going to win? Are you going to win? Are you going to win? And like we were just like going kind of like trying not to talk about it too much, but also just being like, oh God, this is so intense. Yeah.

And then we were at Universal for the crowning. And so it's like home court, you know, game. Yes. All the vibes dear, as closest friends, and then like three people there for me. Yeah. And when she like lost...

What are you saying? When she lost, there was like, a kind of like dampened, like, like clap that I had won. But it was just like, the grace that vibe

extended me in that. And like she was like, bitch, you're amazing. Let's go. Like, let me get you a drink and let's go

and have a chat in another room. Yeah. took me off to the backstage at Universal and we just sat and had a chat for like 45 minutes about everything. Yeah. And it was so like just the way that that woman conducts herself. Like it's not like obviously like not normal. It's to know.

But it's like obviously she's disappointed in that moment. But I don't think she like she still has the grace and the decorum. Yeah. She still managed to like just be supportive. Yeah. So great. Yeah. which I think is like that is the thing that I love to see when like we love a big camp

explosion or whatever but I think in the long run good sportsmanship and good like being able to have have grace in these situations where where you're being told that it isn't for you yeah it takes a lot of maturity but it's so incredible to see and in lieu of that you should be attached to a pulley system and be elevated off the stage. And Jade did that. Yes. And that's also really important. I think as well, like, Jay's response to not making it through it.

Like, she didn't, she wasn't upset. Like, she just seemed like, oh, I'm going to go and do more of this show. You will see me again. I'm sorry, but this is like, we've just finished season two. We're rapping season two. And I'll see you guys for season three. Yeah. Like it wasn't like, she was like, this has no control over me.

Yeah. Like, I am, you know, and we were so blessed with her presence that it's just like, okay, bye. The goddess is going back to Vortexa. She's crazy. She's amazing. Like, like, in a great way. Oh, truly. So good.

So self-possessed and so cool. And like, I mean, I've already said on the show, but just what the fuck was that runway package? Yeah. It's just very impressive. She's operating on a different plane, I think. Yeah. She's not fully. it felt like she wasn't fully part of earth anymore.

She's transcended a little bit to some others' dimension. I do think as well when you are that kind of self-possessed and self-realized, there's not really a lot of power that other people have to take that away from you. Like it's just like, oh, you don't like, like, you know, this isn't for you? Oh, who gives the shit? Yes. It's not about you. It's about me.

Yeah. Yeah. So it's very exciting. And vibe has that as well. But yeah, I was watching the finale as well last night in my bed at, you know, 8 o'clock. And I was watching Vibe and I was just thinking, God, she just needs her own talk show. She's so, well, she has her podcast. Yeah, well, she does, but like she needs, like, a proper, like, funded, proper show.

No, she is incredible. And, like, I just, I think the, like, because Vibe maintains still working full-time in advertising, which is crazy. Yeah. Like none of these other bitches are working full-time at another day job that has nothing to do with drag. Yeah. The capacity to have space for a drag career as well as that is pretty full on.

If she ever like stepped out of, like, was like I'm doing full 24-7 drag, it would just be unstoppable. Like she would not, she could have that whole, you know, she could be the, group hall of down under she was doing all the wraps like all the wrap ups of everything like she was like how do we all feel about the final episode yeah like she was like

being a talk show host for the other queens everyone was just kind of sitting there like oh what do we do now and like alright what's happening next yeah yeah you know and doing all the you know cheers to us and she does it very very naturally yeah it wasn't forced it was like it was all just like

flowing out of her I think it's because as well she's like she's like she really is the diva that has worked you know in the clubs every Friday night for like knows how to do stage talk like and it just like it makes you social in a way like if you're like just on Oxford Street all the time constantly meeting people and talking to people and managing people and moving through that space it's like it just makes you so good at like navigating social scenarios yeah plus she's just a natural yeah Matt did you see any footage of Jade's

like hometown like finale viewing party where she was lifted off the stage. I can't watch that. She was put on wires in her giant spiky gold outfit. It's amazing. I hadn't seen it until shortly.

Before Lazy Show me it's incredible. She's insane. But yes, another drag race chapter has ended. I know. And now we wait to see if and or when.

season five or I suppose versus the world maybe season two happens again yes um yeah time will tell I pray and how are we stressed when that gets announced oh my sister you need to make a run

towards it oh yes oh yes it'll happen in all due time and I'll crush Asia buffet beneath my still little heel yes but yeah it's what it's

Okay. Did you see that that AI guy came out, quit, quit his job and was like, AI's going to kill us within the next 10 years. Wait, so he came out. He came out as gay. He said, get out of here, you ninnies. This computer is going to kill us all. No. Yeah.

And he was like, it's actually going to happen. And I was like, well, it's so funny. sometimes like obviously we're in a bubble. What? That girl in the bubble. And like everywhere we see like AI is is like evil or whatever. Especially like generative AI. And that is like I don't know.

I see that everywhere, you know, like you see someone put up a poster or like, oh, you you reposted the like this is me in the 80s thing you're fucking evil piece of shit and all that stuff um but i do think that's our bubble right yeah because i watched um there were three fantastic events in my life this week first was the nintendo direct about the new um like the 40 years of zelda then the next day 40 years of zelda talking about zelad um then the next day there was a Nintendo Direct, which was a boring piece of shit that went for 45 minutes. And there was also the Apple, like, keynote. Oh, yeah, with the foldy phone.

Yes, which it's so funny that we now have iPhone DS, speaking of Nintendo. But the way that they talk about AI, like tech companies and like on a big scale, publicly talking about AI is just so profoundly like, this is incredible. Everyone wants this. It's going to change everyone's lives for the best. better and da-da-da-da, which like, of course something's a super, super handy and like, in a way we've all relied, like, ever since. Do you need to know if I'm gay?

Okay. Wow. That was helpful. But, you know, like, I don't know. There's lines and divisions and complexities to like, what the fuck is the difference between putting in Google, like, how do I do? like how do I, what are the steps in tying my tie? Or putting it in chat GPT.

Like, why is one evil and one isn't? And there might be some specific reason. I don't know, whatever. But generative things, no. But anyway, it's just so wild to see, like, so publicly. It's like, yes, this is fantastic. And there's no issues. There's no moral blurring.

And they talk about it for all of the personal assistant stuff that's coming to Siri, which like, don't know if I'm quite handy, if I'm going to be honest. But then it's like, also, if you take a photo and you don't like the angle of it, you can change that now and it will generate the objects around you to shift the angle and do that stuff, which is, I don't know, entering it.

Like, well, that wasn't the fucking photo. So why is that what you put in a frame? But it just, the way that they present it so blindly feels like in sci-fi, when you look back in the animatrix of the dawn of the robotic generation, that is how it's all pitched. So it's like we are living in that moment. Yeah. I think the thing.

To thunderous applause. The thing that's happened in America right now, because, like, from what I'm able to glean, is that America and globally we were heading towards a massive recession as a result of like everything that's happening in the world but like you know Trump you know Trump's work and and the tariffs and everything it's what he's done to that country the closure of the Strait of Hommuz and every like you know all these things that we're going to affect and destroy the American economy and then the AI boom happened And the sheer amount of investment the market made into AI companies, which were American,

has like buoyed the American economy and essentially made it appear, like, turned the tide on what was going to become a recession. And so as a result, these tech companies are completely chained to this AI bubble, which is like this this frenzied investment in the promise of what it could be yeah but currently it's not a product that they can sell yeah like people like oh there's chat chitie but like we is like as you're saying it's like but if i needed to tie my tie i would have just used google in the past and it wouldn't have made a difference yeah yeah yeah um and a lot of the information that comes out of AI is wrong or whatever so it's like it's not even as good as just going to whatever, but everyone's like, well, one day it'll be really good and it will predict your thoughts and it will do everything for you and it will tell you everything. So it's like, yeah, once we get to this place and it's like they, all of them have to be so bored in on this being the solution to everything because it's like if we don't have that, the investment will flow and like stop

flowing and like investors broadly seem to be like, we are only investing in companies right now. that have some kind of AI development happening. Yeah. So like all these companies that formally didn't have added it on to their products and to their things because they're like, no, we love developing our own AI. Like we love, that's why like Twitter suddenly had grok and everything. No, no, no, we have an AI too. Yeah, we've got to do.

So you can invest in us. Yeah. Are you across that Apple's failed? Do you know about that? No. So, like, Apple was developing, because years ago, they announced, like, Siri 2.0 will be, like, AI driven and all that stuff. Yeah. My phone is turning on when I said Siri.

Oh, sorry to everyone who's listening. Oh, yeah. Hey, Siri. Download death to everyone. Yeah, they were, like, developing their own AI to, like, launch, like relaunch, maybe it was like four years ago or something with like a new iPhone, you know, like they always do their like hardware updates, but then also their yearly like massive OS updates. Yeah. Um, and it got like delayed and delayed and delayed. And then maybe a year

and a half ago or two years ago, they announced like, we're actually not developing it anymore. And they've partnered now, I'm pretty sure with Google. Um, and this. new generation of Siri that is coming this year with all the phones and everything that come out next month or whatever, is all powered in partnership by Google's AI because Apple couldn't develop their own and in a competitive way. Yeah. So it's like Google's and then like, what's chat GPT? What's the company? Um, whatever. Sora? No. Yeah. Oh, whatever. There's like that and there's Gemina. Oh, no, Gemini's Google one. Anyway, they like, we're developing, developing, developing and they just couldn't actually get it to be good enough.

They didn't have the moonstone. Yes, sure. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. But like that is so wild. Like Apple that's been at the forefront of so many tech things. Now falling. Yeah.

I feel like that the... It's kind of good because you don't have a monopoly, you know, or like, you don't want Disney kind of thing ever. Yeah. Like so much power in one place and so much. Yeah, wow. Turns out it's Google. Yeah.

Well, yeah. Yeah, just, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, I felt like there was a lot of these companies that all got bought to, like, fill out the AI quotient of other companies. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well.

Okay, so, e-vel. Oh, actually two things. so Demi my friend from work and also outside of work I'm not saying Demi I don't know if we stop working together it's still consider you sent me a voice message this morning

debriefing about some events in our lives and one of them was we have our work conference next week and so Demi is getting a tan for it like a spray tan and she went in this morning and the gal

at the place is like, oh, you know, like, what event do you have on? She's like, oh, I've got a work thing next week. And she said, yeah, it's just better being brown, isn't it? Oh. And Tammy was like, excuse me. Maybe that's their slogan for the tanning salon. Well, maybe it should be, it's better being tan than, anyway. Yeah.

Sunkissed. Sunkissed, yeah. I mean. That's the Ravens through that. So funny. Anyway, that was my first funny thing. My second... Oh, my second.

Thank you. That's okay. Thank you for that. Eval sent us a message yesterday. You must have been listening to the episode. And this wasn't a message to read out, but it's quite funny. Oh, my God. You should have the school child on every episode.

The nervous, mild Gen Z, slash, alpha responses to everything is killing me crying smiley face. Oh, Alamein. Which I thought was so funny. Loved our guest last week. And I realized in retrospect, we probably should have gotten a permission slip signed by his parents to appear on our podcast.

Bang. New. But I hope that's okay. We just, yeah. Here we just, we don't ask for permission. We just beg for forgiveness. Yeah, we beg for forgiveness. from the child labour.

But yeah, he was great. I went to school this week and someone from his class was like, what was the podcast that Arameen was like? I was like, you should not listen to it. Please do not. Wait, do I just say, oh my God. Aramane. I called him Alamein in my head.

Alamein is a line. The train line. Ari. Ari. Yeah, no one, please, if you're listening, do not. Do not listen. Yeah.

Do not go back. Yeah. Stop. Stop. But if you're listening to this episode and he didn't listen to the episode from two weeks ago, God, that's a funny episode. It's actually like maybe the best episode ever. It's so funny. I can't remember a single thing that happened on that episode.

It's the block episode. Back to the Bluff. That's very funny. Okay. How are you destroying all of humanity today? I think let's just do imminent death by AI. Like, it feels so. breathing.

Okay. Like, that's what everyone's talking about this week. Yeah. And do you think they like manufacture machines that can generate cyclones? Sure. And then that's what happens? We're like, it's, uh, it's, it's hot in here. Can you cool down the world, AI?

And it's like, cyclone. Yeah. And they're like, ooh. Ooh. It's still a bit warm. Cyclone too. Yeah. Yeah.

And then it does, and then it starts to get a bit too chilly. And you're like, wait, could you actually heat it up? And they put fire into the cyclone. Fire cyclone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

We'll be right back. Yeah. No. No. No. Not you. Oh. I'm talking to the listener.

Oh. Listener. are you feeling cozy yeah grab yourself a little snack Siri play comforting sounds this is the part of me that you never gonna

play Katie Perry part of me oh you stick sense down and you never gonna make my fuck me we just don't know the lyrics to any songs I really don't know that one

but I know that one but I know that she's joins the army and that's important. Yes. My friends from work just sent me that and said, that's you now. Did everyone love your shaved head? Um, my buzz cut. Yes, it has landed quite well. Have you had to change all your grinder picks? Oh, you don't have grinder? I deleted grinder. Let's get a land. I deleted grinder for the first time in like 10 years and then I shaved all my hair off. Everything's going great. Yes. So, but actually do feel great. Yeah, good for you. Do you want to talk about that? Oh, yeah. I just,

I think what got me was I had a cancellation, which really annoyed me. And then I was like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, I put all this time into like these things, but like none of it's like actually dating potential. It's all just like hookups or whatever. And like, that's nice. But like I have enough of those like that aren't on Grindr or like, what. It just, there was no.

potential in the pool of Grinder at the moment. And it hasn't been for quite some time. So what the fuck am I constantly checking that thing for? Yeah. And because I've had the same account on Grindr for so long, like, ugh. I don't know. I don't know. Like, you know, like my like Polish guy.

Like I still have him favorite, you know, remember like Adam, the Polish boy? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like I talk to him on Grindrinder sometimes. because I've still got him like, favoriteed. But I was like, he was here like two years ago now. Yeah. Like, what?

I like talked to him on Instagram. Anyway, but like he's still favoriteed. I'm like, I don't need to see. Yeah. I just don't need this. Yeah. I'm having a break. Good for you, girl.

Yeah. A cleanse. Yeah. Yeah. A duching of the soul. Okay. And so that was good. And then, I don't know, I wanted to shave my head for a while.

Just like So goony, you know? What was the, what was the, what was the, look that you were going for? Was it for a drag thing? Sorry, man. I thought... Ask the question again? No, no, no, no.

Look, I like it. I think it's great. Just just preface that. He just wants to know what look you were going for. No, because I saw on Instagram, you said, I shaved my head for a bit. And I want to know what the bit was. No, I said, I'm doing this for a bit. As in, like, for a period of time.

I thought you did it as a joke. No. Although I did get a message saying, is that AI. I was like, no. No. It's all me, baby. No, just like Sigourney. Oh, right. Yeah.

I thought you meant it was like for a bit. No. For like a drag. I'm doing this for a bit. Comedy show. I haven't shaved my head for a comedy act. Thank you. No.

It's for a drama. Yeah. No, I just wanted to. I don't know. Also, I'm like, I wanted to shave my head before I had no choice but to shave my head, you know? I don't know what that means. From like going bold or whatever. Like, I've done this by choice.

and now I'll grow it out by choice because I can't. Well, that's a weird flex, but okay. No, but like... She hates coming for the board community. That is not what I'm saying. I will grow my hair out. Unlike you... If I went bald in a month, I wouldn't be able to get a buzz cut.

So while I still have hair, I want to get a buzz cut. Because then it's like choice. As Lord said, it's buzz cut season. Yeah, just rub it in. Just rub it into the bold community once again. Hey, I'm sorry to our bold listeners. Any bald listeners out there, you may have enjoyed a bus cut before you went.

But you can't do it now. They can't have one now either. She also loves wearing shoes if we have any foot amputees in the audience. Might as well do it well I can. I love walking around in my ha-ha heels. That's right. Our first. We'll censor all this.

It's fine. So you don't get cancelled again. Oh, they can try. Oh, God. Okay. It's time for our first speak pipe of the day. Because listen, we still just have so many. It's actually fabulous because we haven't had to decide on topics for weeks. Weeks. Yeah. It's incredible. Listen now. And our first speakhole today is from woman. Hello there. Celestial goddesses and Matt. It is a woman.

and I'm calling you from the women's mere hours after the birth of my child because I have a bone to pick with the pod and I figured, you know, I've got to get on top of the to-does I did not get done and that is to do with the children's entertainment episode where lazy misidentified sticking around as an Australian children's TV program Now, Matt in this episode also identified as a Canadian. And not that I gave too much of a shit about national identity and nationhood, but I think it's important to get this one right. Sticking around is a Canadian children's television program that began airing in 1996.

Oh, my God. And I think it's just important to have that for the listeners to know. Yeah, the roots of the program. Also, Matt is apparently some kind of expert on maple syrup. Didn't even talk about maple syrup in cans. Lazy, I assume you were back from your North American trip. But did you have maple syrup from a can? That is when you know you've had the good stuff.

So my prompt for the bunker for a future episode is which Canadian content can con. Prior to 1996, prior to sticking around, because I assume that's going in at some stage, has to. Makes it into the bunker. I can't remember what's on the screens at the reject shop, but potentially could be there. Just like on a loop, Canadian content. I think it's needed to rectify the situation that's unfolded. And just hope my request gets taken seriously. All right, bye.

Okay. That was really good. She has a commitment after just giving birth. Musselta to the show. To you and your child. Your child. And I would like to apologize to the neighbors to the north. Uh-huh.

The proud Canadian people for robbing them of what is stolen valor. Uh-huh. of trying to claim the incredible dynamic, artistically profound, genre changing, sticking around as an Australian series instead of a Canadian series. I hope in doing better we can make a better world for your now just-minted child to grow into

where we can't have such thievery. and lies, misinformation in the press, as has been perpetrated in the last week two weeks ago episode. That wasn't Medea award-winning content. No, no. We rededicate ourselves

to seeking out the stories that matter and giving them to you our audience. Now, the reason that that mistake was made is because Australia and Canada have a... very long-standing relationship as media partners. Yes. There were a lot of Canadian-Australian co-production.

And a lot of Australian, a lot of Canadian content was re-broadcast in Australia on the Australian broadcast channel. So, yes. Yes. We grew up watching Canadian shows. Yeah. This includes sticking around. Uh-huh.

My best friend's an alien. Yeah. Or I think it's called I was a fourth grade alien or whatever in overseas, but we don't have whatever. I was an eighth grade. I don't know. I can't remember. The Zach files, an incredibly important show.

You love the Zach fans. I fucking love the Zach files. DeGrassey, next generation. Yeah. Very important. Hey. Which, you know what? When I was in Canada.

Oh. In Toronto. Toronto. Toronto. I was doing a brunch, and I was like, I'd now like you to rise for the Canadian National Anthem. And then I said, and every day, I know I can make it through. Yeah.

I can be the best, the best that I can be. Yeah. Oh, as maybe half the audience reacted. Uh-huh. The rest, dead behind the eyes. Wow. Do you think it's because the joke is done to death or because they were... I just don't think DeGrasi Next Generation is as important there as it is, meow.

But that's not true. Okay. But it's weird. They talk like, I was like, where's DeGrasi? Because I was in Toronto and I was trying to see locations of all my favorite things. Toronto. And I was like, where's DeGrasi? And I was like, no, no, no, I don't care about original.

I'm the next generation. I don't care. And they're like, oh, well, that was actually like a, like, that was shot on a studio lot. But who are you talking to? Well, I had the conversation. This is a conversation you just had with people in the street? Yes. Send me to a Degrasi.

Where's Degraissy? I know there was a shooting at Degraissy. That's how Drake ended up in that wheelchair. Yeah. But I had it several times. Every time I could bend the ear of a local. I was like, where's your grassy? Don't be dead a grassy.

And I did, I also wanted to check out the school from the Zach Files. Lots of important things. Okay. Yeah. Okay, so Matt, you've you've supped syrup from a can. Oh, it's delicious. Go on. It's just so much lighter.

Lighter? It's like sweet water. Oh. It tastes like sweet water. I was expecting it to be denser. No. Lighter syrup is better. Like the colour?

Lighter in colour and texture. Wait, but if it's in a can, like a ring-pool can? No, you don't ring-pull it. Oh. No, you have to pierce it with a metal object. Oh, like with a pineapple juice. Mm-hmm. It's delicious.

And then what, you sup from the piercing? I mean, that was what I was raised on. Matt, what would you know about that? Yeah. Well, I still have strange. wrong ties to Canada. That's the place I was born. Why? What? It's where I first

entered this mortal sphere. I don't know what you're talking about. Mortal plane. Matt, that's crazy. You're Australian. In case anyone didn't know. Can I just have a quick segue? You know the alphabet? No.

So what Canadian thing goes into the bunker prior that existed prior TV show. Oh, TV show? I missed that caveat. I decided on moose already. You were just going to say moose. Yes. We could just have a live stream of a moose. Yeah.

Moose is just so big. Apparently Franklin the Turtle's Canadian show. Hey, I love that turtle. The proportions of that turtle are great. Such stumpy feet. No, that is a rare rare win for total animation. Yeah.

God, they're so often maligned. Yeah, but the proportions of that, too... And doesn't they have enchanting round glasses? Hmm, yeah, no. And a little neckscarf? He's got his neckscarf and a hat. Okay, no glasses, though. He's so cute.

So cute. Apparently Fragel Rock, also a Canadian show. Where's Harry Maclary from? Here. Oh, I believe. Okay. Don't get me in trouble. Okay.

Who's tallest, Canada? Apparently. Terrence and Philip. Canadian-made or co-created cartoons include the magic school bars. Oh. Which is a perfect show. Okay, so this is telling me something that will change everything. Okay.

So I'm going to tell you my somewhat contenders and then my like picks, okay? So I grew up watching SCTV with Catherine O'Hara, Eugene Levy, everyone. which was like, you know, they were all people that had, you know, done in the second city and tried out for S&L and then didn't make it. And then they made their own sketch show in Canada because they were all Canadian. And it was iconic and kind of my first intro to like some of the recurrent Canadianisms. So yeah, I love, I mean, all good people come from Canada. All the best American celebrities are Canadian or Australian.

Thank you. Yeah. Secretly. Secret Canadians and secret Australians. There's this iconic humorous writer called David Rakoff who has a piece about how, like, being from Canada gives you like a sixth sense that whenever ever, or like a six sense and a curse that whenever someone brings up even in passing in a conversation a celebrity or notable person who's. you know is Canadian, you can't let it just go by. You have to say, well, they're Canadian, you know. Oh, yeah.

Which as an Australian, I relate to a lot. Because, like, when someone says, you're like, oh, she's Australian. Uh-huh, yeah. Yeah. You know she's Australian, right? Yeah. Like, yeah, Elstone, Orange is in the Black? She's from Perth.

Yeah. You've got to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Elizabeth Tabicki, she's Australian from Melbourne. So, yeah, it has to be done. Richard O'Brien was born in New Zealand. Wait, Richard O'Brien?

Yeah. Riff, Riff. Yeah. Cool. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Got to claim some things. Yeah. Okay, so SCTV's there. My favorite show of all time was shot mostly in New Zealand, despite the fact that it was an American Fox production, which is Wonderful's with Carolyn DeVerno, who's a huge... In New Zealand? No, in Canada. Oh, sorry. Sorry.

What? Carolyn DeVernor who was later in Hannibal, but she was like... very huge in the French-Canadian, like, soaps of the day. Okay. And then English is her second language. And then she went and did the show Wonderful. It's about a woman who starts hearing animals talking to her, or, like, plastic animals talking to her and telling her to do things.

That's cool. Yes. And I only got 13 episodes. Wait. Should I watch that show? Yes, it's so good. Tracy Tom's incredible. It's got Lee Pace in one of his first ever roles before Brian Fuller took him on to do

Pushing Daisies. And Brian Fuller, who made pushing daisies, made wonderfuls first. Oh. Which, none of that made any sense to you, do it? No. No, okay. I was just thinking about Lee Pace, pushing something else.

What? What? And then, because it says it on this list of Canadian shows, it has to be goosebumps. Oh. I genuinely love goosebumps. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I'm on the goosebumps Reddit now. Okay. Like for the TV show. Yeah. And people were like, did you see the haunted mask has just gone up for auction? Oh. Yeah. Cool.

Yeah. So I was doing a quick search and I was halted in my tracks and you might have seen my facial expression. My jaw dropped to the floor because Inspector X came up. But it seems to have been for no relatable reason because it's an Austrian show. But fuck me. I love Inspector X so much. I like Every episode

I watched as it came out Holy shit I love that show That's an interesting Well when we're talking about Austrian shows You can probably Yeah we'll pull back Um Okay

So that's good And then I was thinking about queer as folk Oh Oh True not Not 9096. It's post 96, not pre-96. Because I would have said Chris.

We've got to double-check goosebumps. Oh, Mama. Oh, I could be in trouble. I could be in trouble. What do we think? 98, 97. Oh, God, is no way. I'm feeling 92, 93.

Oh, 9095. Hey. Under the gun. Okay. And tell you. or what? The way that goosebumps looks is so, like, once you know what Canada looks like, oh, it's Canada.

But for me, that was America. So, look, I thought America was everywhere, because they were shooting to look like American towns. And so when you're in Canada, you're like, oh, America is just Toronto, like the suburbs of Toronto. because it's so lush and green and like that's so leafy and the houses are beautiful. Yeah. And like that you just think is everywhere in America, but it's actually just everywhere in Toronto. Yeah. Cool.

But so I did have that experience of walking around and be like, oh my God, I'm in goosebumps. Cool. Apparently also, are you afraid of the darkest from there? but I didn't ever fuck with that as much as goosebumps because I didn't have the books. Well, goosebumps, you're in. Thank you. Welcome back, everyone.

Now, for our final discussion today, we have a final speak note and this one, speak note? Speak note, sure. From Betty. And it better be Betty from Madman. Or Betty White from Beyond the Grave. Yeah. Hello, Celestial Goddesses and Space Car Driver Matt.

I am one of your many lesbian listeners. And I also identify as a listener who uses your podcast as a sleep aide. And before Lazy Susan hits the roof about that, just to be clear, I listen to like every new episode during the day. I just do reruns to fall asleep. And so I can drift off to your dulcet tones talking about the apocalypse because, I mean, that's just gay heaven. My question is, do you really have a lesbian in the bunker? I think I'm not totally up to date with the spreadsheet, but I think like episode two, you put the fabulous Dr. Meg John in the bunker.

and they are wonderful, but don't think they're lesbian, don't think that's how they identify. And anyone who's ever, like, really lived knows that every bunker needs a lesbian. So do you have a lesbian in the bunker? And if not, what lesbian are you going to put in? Sula more. Love you.

This woman has never heard of the show. Okay. only in her sleep. Betty, what a beautiful, like, well-spoken delivery of a speakhole. Also, thank Christ. We're finally breaking through. Oh, no, we're fine. Oh, to lesbian.

To lesbian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sick of gay men. Oh. Get rid of them. If you're gay and listening to this, count your days. Wake up coming for you. If you're lesbian and sleeping to this, I love you.

So it is. She could be bisexual. Oh. But there was... That wasn't the question. Is Betty bisexual? It's pretty bisexual. But the common understanding is that Bayonetta is a lesbian and is in a relationship with, what is her name, Joanne?

Joanne, her like whitehead counterpart witch. Mm-hmm. Because the whole second game is about rescuing her from hell. Um, because they're like lovers. Mm-hmm. And there's that fabulous opening montas where she's going gift shopping and jumps across a rocket with her crutch. So,

but I think Bayanetta might be by, if I'm honest. Okay. But she's pretty. Exceptionally. She dabbles. She dabbled. Um,

not sure. No. So we can't, we can't, you know, we can't be sure. No. But we want, yeah, we need a full blown lesboss. Well, to me, my all-time favorite lesbian from childhood and now is having like a major resurgence is Rosie O'Donnell. I love Rosie. I think she's pretty funny.

She's amazing. She's like, is just the most empathetic, kind and talented human. human being who like every time you think that they've gotten rid of her, she's back. She's back. And she's just, she has scruples. She stands by every single thing that she says. And when she's wrong, she makes meaningful change in her life. And I just find her to be so compelling because it's like, how do you manage to be that

person throughout your entire life? How do you remain consistent in that way? And it's just, I love Rosie. And her return to hosting late night for that week was incredible. And I just love her. I just, ugh. What about Jillian Michaels? Jillian Michaels?

Yeah. From The Biggest Loser. She's a lesbian? What? Yes. Oh, my God. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like she might be responsible for some hate crimes against fat people.

Yes. And she's extremely right-wing. Oh. Well, why did you suggest her? No, she's not lesbian. She's Lebanese. I'm just looking at her Wikipedia. Matt? What? It's what it says. That isn't true. Does it say she's not lesbian? She's Lebanese?

Yeah. No, it doesn't. It doesn't. Oh, my God. I think, no, I doesn't say that. think you got confused. Gillian Michaels is a lesbian. What?

Her mother was Lebanese, so I think that you're getting confused between lesbians and Lebanese people. Matt. This isn't funny. Oh my God, G-Flip is on this list. Gillian and Bob were both gay. And that was great for representation. Bob continued to be hot, and then Gillian became more and more psycho right wing. It's like, how are you a lesbian and are saying these things on your podcast?

Anyway. So not her. Get rid of her. She can go down with the AI overlords. It's Chapel. I mean, it's not Chappelle. No, bye. She's buying, okay.

What about Fiona Shaw? This Google image search suggests that Fiona Shaw is. You know who has just popped up that I don't think gets the credit? Wanda Sykes. In the other two, Wanda Sykes is so fucking. fucking funny, steals every scene she's in. We kind of have, as a culture, not got enough Wanda Sykes in the world, but she is like, got to be one of the funniest comedians working.

Yeah. And her delivery is just impeccable. Yeah. I do love that Wanda Sikes. Yeah. Oh! Heather Matarazzo! From Welcome to the Doll's house?

Oh, yeah. And Princess Diaries? Yes. I love her. Oh, my God. Cherry Jones. Okay, Cherry Jones is the lesbian. Cherry.

Cherry Jones. Wait, what about, you know how Sarah Paulson is a lesbian? Yeah. But her, like, older, love a lesbian. Yeah. Who's that? Because, no. That's good.

Anyway, who's Cherry Jones, eh? Cherry Jones. She's in succession. She's in Transparent. Oh! Such an icon. She gives like... Like, we know this woman.

She is like at the events that we get booked for that are like not the club gigs, but, you know, like the earlier gigs and stuff. She's there having like wines with her friends. She's fabulous. Yes. She kind of looks a lot like Mum the drag queen's mum. Ah, really? Yeah. Oh my God, Nisi Nash.

I fucking love Nisi. Wait, Nikki Blonsky? Raven Simonier. Oh, Raven's stuff has gone crazy this week. What? That demonic wife of hers. It actually, I feel like maybe there's a profound thing for famous lesbians to have demonic wives.

Yeah. Because Portia de Rossi as well. I know. I was so into Portia. I actually do think there's a time for Ellen. Ellen needs to be given an opportunity to return. So what? What's she going to do?

I just am so, I'm like. Just bully more people. Well, I just am like, how did that happen? That she, like, what did she do? Yeah, it's all a little bit, it's a little bit mysterious, isn't it? Like, they're like, oh, she's really rude. And it's like, okay. But so is so many fucking.

people working for a long time in Hollywood. Why did that end her career like she me-toed someone? Like she's a bully and like makes a really toxic workplace. I'm like, yeah, she has every right. Corporation does that. Well, it's like she like the fucking amount of men that act that way and just have their entire careers, one Ellen does it. And suddenly it's like a fucking massive thing.

I just am like, that's crazy. Also, I just think Ellen is very funny. Jody Foster is a lesbian? Yes. Wow. Do you know who's the other? Are you being serious? Yeah.

Yes. Do you remember that? No, no, no. I mean, Zelda, are you being serious that you didn't know that before? Jody Foster is a lesbian. Yeah. I like, I didn't know that. She directed The Beaver.

What? Is that? Bad Mel Gibson film. Wow. There you go. Uh, Jody Foster, iconic lesbian. Um, also not yet out. Like soft.

Not out. Soft les. No. But a lesbian who like everyone knows is a lesbian, but no one has like said she's a lesbian is Queen Latifah. And I love the- Oh, I would love if Queen Latifah was a lesbian. She is a lesbian, but she just doesn't, she doesn't come out. Well, can't, we can't put her in if she hasn't come out.

We're not outing her on this podcast. Queen Latif is a lesbian. What about Lily Tomlin? I love her. I do love that show with Jane Fonda. Oh, Magda. Zabansky. Yeah.

Yeah, let's look at home, shall we? Who's a lesbian in Australia? Our good friend and star of the witchy girls, Hannah Gatsby. True. Iconic lesbian. True. Although Hannah is now out as non-binary. Well, that's, yeah.

Which I think you can still claim lesbian status. Yeah. You can claim it? Okay, I've got this Q News article. Ten of Australia's most famous lesbians. Okay. Oh, my God. None of these are Inspector Rex, but I'm just going to keep looking.

Margaret Cho. Oh, Margaret Cho, yes. One of our great lesbians. Miriam Gargoyle. Mary Magli's? Yes. She had a bad week, didn't she? What happened to her?

She was really racist on television. Oh my God. Wait, what? Yeah, it was not good. This week? On British UK breakfast television. Oh my God. She was on with a man who was guest hosting, who I can't remember, who is like Scottish and black, I believe.

I'm getting all the facts wrong. But then she was like, so where are you from? What accent should you actually have? And he's like, I'm Scottish. And she's like, no, but how should you actually be talking? And they were just like, I'm just curious. Okay, well, the characters on goggles would never be so close-minded. You know they're bringing gargoyles back, right?

Who is? Like, to fences, turrets? The TV show. Do you know, I've never known her name? is a lesbian? Natalie. Yeah, that's why we were on a pride together. We did that, we did Pride in Queensland.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dot Marie Jones, whose name I didn't know before this, but she was, I think her name was Boost in Glee, one of the things, but she's in that new film Breeder, where it's like a woman who breeds dogs, who starts deciding to breed humans. And she locks a hot boy. in a cage, she's like, you're one of the good words.

Oh my God. I want to get you to breed with one of my girls. I love this curly girl wig that she's wearing in all these photos through her life. Maybe that's just her hair. Nat Bass, that's funny. The rogue traders? Yeah. Hey there,

baby, baby. The new song coming out with Denny Minogue. That's so exciting. We almost almost could have had Miranda July but she's bisexual I thought you meant a Kylie and Danny I was asking in the chat

who you thought was more desperado in that situation who is it a bigger deal for Nat Bass or? Yes I think it's the opposite. You said it was Nat Bass as the more desperado. Correct. I don't think so. No because Danny

doesn't have to do anything like she doesn't need to do like she literally could never work another day in her life because Kylie would have enough money to fund you think Kylie's like sending her money if Danny was like sister I can't make my mortgage repayment this month yeah Kyle Kylie Minogue would pay the mortgage for a month but she's not doing it every month oh but she's not going to be like Danny you better go get a job at the coffee shop I think she would I don't think Whereas who's Nat Bass calling? Her sister isn't Kylie Minogue.

She could call Paul Lassettus. So she's more desperate and therefore it's a bigger deal. And what do you think about that? I don't think it's about money. I think it's about fan adoration. Like who is it doing more for? But I mean, if you're Kylie Minogue's sister, there's always... But when you're always being referred to as Kylie Minogue's sister,

yes. The bass stands in her own right. No, because then it's confusing. Because you're you, not bass, or you're you rogue traders. Oh. You think that rogue traders is her Kylie Minogue? Like sometimes, or she was on Neighbors. That's what you just said.

Yeah. Yeah. She was good. Imagine being in the shadow of, oh, well, ironically, Kylie's in the shadow of neighbors and Danny's in the, I don't know. Well, Danny was also a Neighbors. Yes, but oh, oh, God. Everyone was on neighbors. Including me, but not you.

Wow. I'll rub that one. Sorry, sorry. You on drag race, you're fine. I'll never have been on neighbours. Yeah. That's so sad. Folly,

Fully, we love again. Okay, okay, okay. So, what? Lesbian. Matt, what's your favorite lesbian? Australian or? Oh, go.

This is an international show. Oh, okay. Great. I'm not sure. Penny Wong? I don't know. Oh, yeah. Penny Wong!

I think Penny was great. Did you see that Anton Enos has wrapped up service at SBS? Oh. Anton! And they gave him a big bunch of flowers and he smiled for the first time in a long time. Okay. You don't often seem like glowing smile because they have to be serious. They're presenting the news.

Beautiful smile. I love Anton Enis. Well, we're not talking about which charming SBS. I wish Leland Chin was a lesbian. Yeah. Then we could put her in. Wait, can we do which... We already have her in.

Yeah, I know, but, you know. You want her under the... We do, we do, we do. We want her under the... I don't think we've got anyone who is a lesbian in the bunker. Yeah, it's actually so fucked. The spreadsheet. It's...

Godzilla? Oh, true. True. But the problem is also, we actually... don't have the category of lesbianism in the bunker, so it has to fall under the, um, under plus.

Oh, true. Because we have, we only have the plus in to they become a plus. From LGBTQIA plus. Yeah, I'm fine with that. So,

yeah. Okay. They like women, but they're a plus. Bayonetta is not canonically a lesbian. Honey. As there's a relationship between her and Luca. Can I tell you,

Luca has no vibe and there is no dynamic between the two of them. It's all about Jean. Just let it go. The white-haired divotron. Just let it go. Queer icon status. Well, here we go.

Now we're back on track. Despite her canonical relationships with a man, ugh. Baynetta remains a massive queer icon. Yeah, damn straight. Do you know who's great? Yeah. Kirby from fucking traders.

That was a lesbian I recently fell in love with. Oh, yeah. She's incredible Jojo Siwa Oh, she's not a lesbian anymore She converted Back to Yeah

Bye Um Chrishell Stouse From Selling Sunset With G Flip She's not getting in But Um

Okay Okay Okay Okay Okay Cynthia Nixon is the last one we need to talk about But I'm happy to put all my chips on Rosie Yeah, that's true Rosie

I think that's good I love Rosie O'Donnell Or Queen Latifah No, she's not out We have to wait Yeah I can't wait for the title of this For this episode to be death to lesbians

Wait Wait Oh no Just Jillian Anderson Yeah but bisexual I know Oh my heart skipped a beat earlier When I saw that too

And then I thought I know I loved cat my asthma so much. I need to see it. Speaking of like incredible sapphic content. Yeah, everyone go and watch cat my asthma. Teenage sex and death in cat my asthma. Okay.

Rosie? Rosie. You're in. You made it. Okay. That's it for this week, listener. We're only doing two. Sorry.

I have to get to the gallery. Yeah. But also it's because I thought woman again was going to be a separate topic, but it was just a continuation of. so. And that's just how it is. Yeah. Okay, we love you all. Well, we don't know you, but.

Today we've popped into the bunker, Rosie O'Donnell. Yes, screaming. Oh, yeah. And goosebumps. Yeah. What an incredible day. Yeah.

Now, we're putting in, what are we doing? DVDs, a live feed. I think goosebumps, but acted out by the cast of the nanny. Okay. How I'd love to see Fran Dresher in the Haunted Mask. Yes. As Calibet. Great.

All right Thanks everyone And Matt Next week We'll come back to Who's your favorite lesbian So think about That's your homework

No no no I thought about it It's Jodie Foster Oh okay Okay It is Okay So you didn't bring her up

What You didn't bring her up Earlier though But I knew that she was a lesbian Oh okay Matt this is disappointing for you You didn't know I didn't know

Educate yourself Oh No No Zelda Okay All right Do better

All right Let the listener decide who's doing better. Yeah, that's right. And also, what about Lazy's drag look from the finale? What did you think? It was pretty good. No, the listener, not you. Oh, yeah.

That got me. Also, listener, won't you buy tickets to Lazy and my fabulous Halloween trail? Yes. At the Brunswick Ballroom on September 31st, with fabulous shows and DJs, and a massive Halloween costume competition. Also, please look into that thing we said at the top of the episode,

which we're going to record after this now, but we might be doing a show, and we've cut this if not, but a pop-up secret live show. Matt, we haven't told you about this yet. We're going to live. Yes, but not an official, but like as a, you know, pop-up. We're calling a pop-up. Under the radar.

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