Death To Everyone - Death To... Crafts, Metals & Kanye's Betrayers

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

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...toe... ...to everyone... Hello. How are you? We are the hive mind podcast. We say everything, wait, what? We say everything together. for a long time.

Our first born will be called Everyone. Oh, yeah, we were just discussing this before we jumped onto these hot mics. That if Matt was to ever have another child, he needs to name it after this podcast. And that name should be everyone. Everyone. Come here, everyone. Everyone, where are you? Where is everyone?

Yeah, I love Everyone. What do you feel like having for dinner, everyone? And other child. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone and Sally. Yeah. Yeah. Go to school, everyone.

Everyone? Get out of my sight. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's good. I'm down. Yeah. Where does everyone want to go on holiday?

It just, it writes itself. It's very good. And if parenting is about, one thing and one thing only. It's by giving yourself an opportunity to have a casual laugh everything. What is everyone wearing? Why would you say that about your child? Well, did you go to school and your mother would be like, what is Zelda wearing? I think that she did, yes. Well, that's a perfect segue into the fact that your name is Zelda. Give it up, everyone, for Zelda Moon. Hi, I'm Zelda Moon. She's the co-host. She's the co-host.

Yes. And my co-host is lazy Suzanne. Give it up for lazy Susan. Not just for shoes anymore. You can come to Suzanne's for everything. Well, this goes with that. Yeah. And our space car driver, producer and future everyone, parent, parent to everyone, is match is. Hello, dear. Hello, dear. Hello, dear. Hello, dear. Hello, dear. Now, this is a show called Death to Everyone. two celestial beings decide what's going to go into a doomsday bunker to survive to the end of time. We've been doing this for quite a while, but there's still many things to discuss in our project that is constructing the perfect representation of all of humanity after its eventual

demise. How are you, Zelda? I'm good. It's kind of like if you, oh, I just remember the other thing about this person. Oh, okay, wait. What person? So I went on like this cute date last night. And I was telling lazy about it this morning And now I'll tell you listener I went on this cute date last night And we had all of these weird Coincidental interests Like dinosaurs

But they're in ones that are slightly Less universal I do need to assure the listener That the date wasn't with a 12 year old boy He was more like six Oh Oh the drag queen of pedophile There we go

Straight out the way Anyway he has a pet blue tongue lizard at home you don't have a pet blue tongue lizard no but he saw my empty aquariums and was like what's in here I was like oh nothing and it's like oh damn he was like my blue tongue would love this

wait it was like you have a blue tongue lizard as a pet it's like yeah it's like well that's it isn't it amazing that for some people like red flags are green flags I'm colorblind Every pot has a lid Except at my house Well

Yeah But anyway That was the one that I forgot to say So distinctly Miss Art Samoan's Asexual life partner Like no they are sexual

But they like have a What is it? I never know how to say this fucking phrase But they're like life partners But they're not in a relationship Friend Not friend They're like

Live together Own a house Housemates Besties But it's non-sexual What's the fucking word Housemates Friends

Guys you guys suck You guys suck Sisters Anyway Yeah Her Non What is it

I don't even know And every time I go And broach this phrase I try and say this phrase For a variety of people They're non-sexual life partner That's pretty good

non-sexual life partner Trow was like, I'm so excited I'm going to get a lizard and then the next time I saw him he was like, I got the lizard and then he was like it didn't really do much and he brought it out

and put it on the table and he's like, see, it's just kind of sitting there and I was like, I think that's the thing lizards kind of you know they promise more than they can deliver I think reptiles in general

correct. They seem so cool. Yeah, but mammals are where it's at, if you want to, like, interact with something. Oh, yeah. Reptiles are just, like, roo... Yeah. Except frogs. Well, frogs are kind of boring, too, but... Yeah.

God, they're all kind of boring. Yes. That's the most exciting reptile. Um, like, Komodo dragon, I guess. Why? Gigantic. Gigantic does help. Yeah.

But they are so boring, too. And iguanas are very judgy. Look at them running around. Yeah. You think I can't do that? What about the chameleons? Yeah, pretty cool. I think if I was going to get a reptile, it would be a chameleon.

But then you'd have to feed it hissing cockroaches. Hissing. Hissing. Hissing and sucking. Anyway, so you went out of a day. No, no, no, no. The people think that the best thing about a chameleon is that it changes color, but it's actually those big eyes. From the film, big eyes.

But they're so cool. They're like telescopic and they're like three-dimensional and they roll around. They're so cool. I think camillians are like, they have like five interesting things about them, don't they? And they have those like little grabby hands. Those crazy grabby hands. As like weird as gecko hands. They're more like, oh, they're just so cool.

They're like such big pads to hold onto a stick. I'm not really a reptile person. Oh. Wait, you just said that that was one of the similarities. you had with your day. Yes, but like that we have like weird things in glass tanks. And when he came into the house, the first thing he did was like, oh, who's in here? And he like, looked at the aquarium.

When I have, listener, if you come to my house and you don't comment on my fabulous aquariums, you're sick and you're not welcome. Well, listen, an empty one. But that's so weird. Like, if you go into a house and. see like an enclosure, wouldn't you at least have a little look? Yeah. People walk in and just walk on by.

Like, oh, sorry to have fun offerings for you. Go ahead, sit on the couch. Ugh. Look in, look in. Have a look. Yeah, have a little look. Yeah. No, you, I mean, they're also very clean at the moment.

They're filled with life. Yeah. And the two giant empty ones. Yeah. Oh, wow. What are they for? Yeah. Well, I'll set them up one day.

One day. Aquarium equipment. It is very expensive. It is. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, just died in my time. She can't afford it.

Correct. Listen, if you'd like to donate to Zelda Moon's dreams of having more aquariums in her house, send money. Yeah. Immediately. Yeah. She needs it. Yeah. You can get a free tour.

Yeah. Yeah. A live feed? Live feed. Pardon me. Yeah. Is that where you, like, feed them live food? Yeah.

I was, I went live the other night. Yeah. Wait. What? Yeah. I was cut back in. Are you doing that thing where you, like, put on a dress and then take it off in 0.5 seconds and put on the next dress and you were selling your old dresses? I was live.

Okay. So I couldn't do any editing tricks. No. Wait. They're not doing editing tricks. They get out of those, in and out of those outfits so quickly. Do you know what I'm talking about? Like it's women in like a hallway and they walk off camera for two seconds?

No. It's like, I'm presuming it's in like Guangzhou or something and like model no emotion on the face. Slips into a dress, stands, poses, slips it off, someone else is there, putting the next one on, zip up, turn around, show off the zip back, next dress, off, next on. And they're like live selling the dresses. I love that. I wasn't doing that. Oh, okay. What were you doing?

I was like, I got on and then I was like, why am I here? Why am I here? And then I made, well, allegedly, it said I made four cents. Cool. Four cents for my time. How much time? I don't know. I was there for 10 minutes.

Okay. And I was like, hello everyone. Well, it's been fun. Goodbye. Wait, everyone was there? Everyone. Yeah. They came back to the past to save humanity.

Part of that is watching my lives Anyway, that's cute Love is in the air That's very exciting The weather is turning Here in sunny Melbourne And Zelda's going on dates Hot dates with hot dates with hot men

Oh, hot men How do you start a first date? It was so rough Oh really Like, yeah Okay, so I'm the guy And like I'm showing up to the date and you rock up and I'm like,

I think I was, because what happened was, I mean, it wasn't that rough. I meant more that talking beforehand was rough. What was the date? Where was the location? The shake chat. We went on like a big walk, like down the river. And we were meeting outside this like cafe. Oh?

But like. But not going in. No, because we were having a free day. She needs to save money for the aquarium. Sorry. He understands he has a blue tank. They need an erration rocks for the opening. God.

But I got there first, and the cafe is on this really skinny strip of footpath. And as the cafe wasn't open, there was, like, nowhere to sit. It was just, like, the meeting place. God, that would have been nice. So, on the other side of the... the road, which is like a big busy road, there's like a big park, um, and I just went over there to sit. I could like, I was probably 10 meters away from the engines to the cafe, but on the other side of the road. And you had your binoculars to catch a predator.

And I, um, God. I was waiting there and then he, he had said that he was coming from like the other side. Are you coming from the north? Which was the side that I moved to. So I thought I was like getting 10 meters closer to the destination rather than 10 minutes further. But it obviously crossed the road somewhere else and then was on the other side of the road. And we like caught each other eye when he was like walking down the street.

And then when he got to the cafe, I also got to like the traffic lights because there's a traffic light outside the cafe. And then we were both standing there. It felt like two minutes before. all the traffic lights changed. And wait, what were you doing? Well, like... Were you looking at...

We were there and we were like... Hi. We go like, your side or my side. And it was made clear that I'd be going to his side so we can journey on. The first compromise. Yeah. Meeting him where he's at.

And so, yeah, we just kind of stood there for an eternity looking at each other being like, oh, I'm sorry. Hey, huh. And did he lift you and twirl you after you? Well, then, yes, when the traffic lag went, do, da, da, da, da, da, da. We ran and he lifted me up, and we twirled.

Yeah. And then everybody got out of the cars and started applauding. Oh, yeah. Just another day. Amazing. It was good. And then he got out his... Pokedex?

I can only assume. No, no, no. So anyway, it was awkward. Wait, and so what was the first, like, Like, what was the first exchange? Take, paint a picture of the first thing you said. Hey. Found you.

And. How about a kiss hit for this? Missy. Did you say that? How about a kiss it? We had a little hug and then we said, we'll walk this way. Walk? Yeah.

Yeah. And then what? And then that's it. I'm not giving it all away. Well, listen, that's not somebody gets a grinder profile. everything was go yeah okay yeah so yeah so yeah that's all yeah what's happening in your world well listener i had the incredible opportunity of aging the other day and so i aged into my 34th year on this planet and as a reward to me for staying alive for so long i mean i can't say

that i did it all my own my parents certainly played a part and the social safety nets and, you know, not being lit on fire at any point has really been a boon to me aging. Wait, are you saying you weren't lit on fire? I know, I know. So what happened here? Oh, Zelda. Oh, ha, ha, ha.

Hmm. Anyways, then I, as a treat, got to go to the annual fundraiser for South Coast FM a trivia night held to raise money for a local volunteer run radio station that exists in Gippsland

which is where my father lives and so I went Happy birthday Happy birthday to me Did he rope you into it or? Yeah well my auntie who also lives down there was like so I thought for your birthday we could go on the actual day

to a nice brunch at some place up on the coast which would be lovely And then she's like, and the night before is the annual trivia at the one-thaggy workers club. And I was like, what a dream. And despite the fact that I've been going up and around one-thaggy since I was, I don't know, five years old, I've never been into the workers' club. And I suspect that that's due to the fact that my mother has taste or had taste. And she was the last defense against us ever having to go inside of that place.

and so when she died the dreams of living a free life unhaunted by this awful building died with her and so you've succumbed that's it so we walk in and I don't know

if you kind of it's a coal mining town one thaggy famous for mining black coal what a legacy and so much so that the whole town's aesthetic is based around that like they'll have the sound of the old

coal miners whistle sound at lunch break every day that's right a bunch of misogynists come up a tower and whistle down at the and say everyone but then that's and then there's also these giant whale bones that are

outside of one of the pubs on the corner but it's... What? Yeah, from when a whale died there drank too much but they're so huge that it becomes an archway that you can step through it's quite impressive that's cool they're real bones huge whale bones real whale bones have they been like treated like protein i guess so not resin

but there's something because they've been there since like the 40s or 50s or something uh anyway so you step into the workers club and they've created a fake mine with like wooden struts and rocks and pickaxes so you're walking through this fake mine a mine which at that point I realized as I glance the pokies and the room that's lit with just halogen downlighting that perhaps I prefer to go into a coal mine instead of this place you could be the canary exactly at least the lighting there is soft oil lamps and that's what the miners really want when they're on their lunch break just going into another mine that's right exactly it's like oh god we're finally out of the mine back into this mine

The children yearn for the minds. So I walk here and like I just, these sort of R.S.L.E. members clubs are so weird. And I'm glad that they exist because they become a kind of catchment for all these people so that they can't be out in the streets, bothering me. But we go in and this, okay, so my dad's had like a very fraught relationship with the people of South Coast FM. Like he does their dry, he does the morning.

show and he does an afternoon show like three days a week and he has a good time doing it but i think that's like scandal with all of these like old white men that run the run the radio um because it feels like they're all like buying for power kind of like a succession style thing and i think that my dad's like coming as like the hot young thing he's the chavonne he's he's the chavon he's the spry 64 year old who's like i'm the new bitch in town and I'm American. He can, like, hold a mouse. Well, exactly.

Well, I remember, I went to go and visit the high school portable where they record out of. And I got in, and there was these, like, old, like, frail men shuffling around. And there was a man there that was, and they were like, bale, bails here. When my dad arrived, they were like, this is my son I've been telling you about. And they're like, bale, bale. And then this old guy comes up to my house. He's like, oh, you know, we had a storm last night. And then my dad's like, yeah.

And he's like, oh, so the radio tower got knocked down by the storm. So John's gone out there to try and put it back up. Radio town. Sounds stressful. Incredible. Anyway, so this is fundraising for them. But like the whole juge is that there's these like power struggles and power plays. and like they are famous like one of the things they've done recently to give you a sense

of the kind of demographic in the vibe uh one of their ads was like now let's go back to the 50s back when gay just meant happy isn't that great before it meant you're weird son's lifestyle choice um so we go in and this is the eighth annual trivia competition and I'm there with my fabulous Irish auntie who is like so chic and would never be caught dead but here we are. My sister, my cousin, we're doing the whole thing and we go down and see that there's a silent auction

with like what can only be described as like a series of small hard rubbish piles that they're asking for money for including anchor of skin care products. an air fryer from Anchor donated or they just found them on hard rubber well no they were some like they're all donated but some of them were like

a new buffer for your car you know I shouldn't laugh at this I shouldn't laugh no this is important to those people if I didn't laugh I'd cry and my aunt turns to my uncle and she says if anyone

bids on any of this shit I will fucking kill you Is that that that's good And it becomes very clear that like we're on the outs Like the the out table Because they all like everyone there is like Hi oh Greg how are you Boba And then like my dad is clearly like the center of the drama

And listen I've you know situated myself Inside of a lot of bitch fights So I understand when the dynamic are off and I'm on the loser table and we were definitely on the shun outside table and as someone that hosts a lot of regional bingos with Gabriella Labucci I now have like quite an innate sense of these things except normally when I go into these buildings I'm being paid to be there and this time I was well not paying it was paid for me but I was paying with my time yes and so you didn't bid I didn't bid on anything of that shit that's

good um but so then this woman gets up and she's the host and her first introduction to the audience is hi everyone we want to get started at seven o'clock so let's just make sure we're sitting down for seven o'clock so i was like charming fun and then she's like okay we're going to kick off now at seven o'clock i um um am so excited to be here to be raising money for south south coast fm and um you know just make sure you've written down your fun team name. You know, we love a fun team name because the winning team that will be inscribed on the trophy, and she holds up this trophy that has like the, the names of the last eight teams that have won the annual trivia competition.

She's like, like last year, trivia Newton John. Do we have trivia Newton John here? And there's like, like, they raise their hand. She's like, now, just so you know, this is unfortunate year for me because I have, of course, been on the winning team for the last five years. And I'm like, oh my God. Now, this woman has a radio mic. It has no chord.

We have the technology. And yet she never steps off the shadowy stage in the corner of the room. Most of the time, she's sitting down. She never walks around. She never engages with the people in the room. We need a name. Like, what's her name? Oh, I could not remember.

Bielzebub. She's known by many names. The devil. Pesu. But she sat next to these two other people. One man who wrote all the questions. And one woman who's doing the fact checks. And they let us know that you can buy two answers on every round for $5.

But that it will be cash only. Of course. And like, what a great fundraising technique. But the good thing about the country. good people of one thaggy is cash is king there is only cash anyway so

we settle in it's going to be music round and the trivia I will say was balanced well skewed towards the boomer decidedly boomer audience that they had it was a lot of like you know classic rock of the 70s and 80s

but they did of course have like one round which was in honor of the doctor who does drive home radio he's a retired doctor And so they were like, every one of these answers is to do with a doctor. And then they played a Dr. Drey song. Like, who wrote this song? Like, who was the performer?

And then when she was giving the answer, she was like, that one, I don't know that a lot of people in this room would have gotten it. That was Dr. Drey, but you wouldn't hear that on the daytime on our show. No, we just play that late at night. and I was like I guess I mean the room was lit like the sun and it was lit in a way that you know like that halogen downlighting

has a way of bouncing and refracting off the leathery hides of like old white men in such a way that is something to be behold like the Aurora Borealis and then this anyway so we get to the third round and we're done And it's incredible. And my Auntie Dee is like, oh, well, that was fun.

And I turned to her slowly and I say, have you counted the sheets we have on this table? And she's like, what? And I'm like, there's eight rounds. Auntie Dee. She's like, certainly not. And I'm like, I'm sorry, darling. We're going to be here for a while longer. And she's like, all right.

Okay, well, I'm going to go and get us a bottle of wine. And then disappeared, went to the bar, and there was no bartender. And she's this, like, fabulous, like, Bayside woman who's just, like, standing at the bar just be like, somewhere, can I get some help? Can I get some? Help! Anyway, so trundling along this night. And then at one point I go to the bathroom and go in, and there's one open cubicle and there's shit, like a whole human.

turd that is just missed the ball and gone up the side of the toilet. And I'm like, oh, God. So I go into the cubicle next. And then when I come out, there's a man photographing the shit in the cubicle. And I'm like, are you photographing that shit? And the guy was like, yeah, I've just never seen anything like this before. You know, I was like, well, you're not in Kansas anymore. And then so I go back in and sit down, just kind of rattled by this shit.

And that guy comes out of the bathroom and sees me and crosses the room and leans down next to me and goes, you know, the best part is that person is in this room that's right now. Oh, God. The shit bandit. And so the trivia is going along and we're not winning at all. Despite the fact that we think we're doing well, but we're surrounded by these, like, trivia ghouls. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They've lived to truth. Sharks. They've been living 50 years longer than you at least. Yeah, but we had some oldies at our table. It was just like these. Like, I mean, I thought we were doing pretty well. And so my boyfriend, Kudgeon, goes up to give the score sheet in at one point. And the charming host is like, would you like to buy any answers for that one?

And Kudgeon was like, oh, I don't have any cash. So no. And she's like, and that. That's why you've never placed in the top seven. Like, aggressive. How dare you? It was like, what? Sorry?

I also would have loved. And that's why the radio station is shutting down next one. God willing. But they had these hats, 12 sparkly hats, like fossey top hats, like from $2 shop. And a man jovially came out wearing them all. And she was like, okay. Rick, so whenever, I'm not going to tell you who's on the top, who's on the bottom, but our top seven, one of them is going to be selected to wear the hats.

And so there'd be this, like, moment of, like, levity, I guess, where they would, at the end of, you know, answering the rounds or whatever, she'd be like, okay, so the hats are going this time to cult play, because they had someone called Chris and someone called Martin at their table. Colplay, you get the hats this round and then they would all be like, yay, the hats! And then they'd take the hats and give them to each of the people on the table

and then for 10 minutes, those people would sit and they'd take a photo with the hats because they were all wearing the hats. And obviously, should they imagine wearing a hat? Yeah, it's pretty funny. And then they'd all kind of like sit in the hats and you've got to imagine the lighting, you know, the sparkles really coming off of those.

You know, you've got greens, a deep purple. kind of blue hats in there. Not a yellow, but a gold. Certainly a gold. And then before the next round commences, our incredible host would be like, oh, can we just get the hats? And then after their 10 minutes in the spotlight,

they'd go and collect the hats, stack them back up, waiting for the next team to enjoy their time with the hands. How long did the proceedings take? If there were eight rounds. So we cut to 10.30 at night. It has been a return of the king level affair with perhaps, I would say, one percent of the spectacle of that film, except the hats, which really was the 1%. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they're, you know, we don't win. We don't even place in the top seven. Oh. Although our name, New, new, what was it? New? Oh, my God. New quiz on the block. They loved it.

They lapped it up. She was like, oh, I've never heard that before. And I was like, and then they were announcing the silent auction. But by this point, me and my aunt are like tanked. And we're just like chatting over the entire affair. It's become very clear like our table is not only the unpopular table, but also like the rude table who like actively yell things

and heckle during the entire thing which might be part of the issue they probably thought we were the people that shut up that toilet anyways that photo is going around and the we chat we chat no they're setting postcard pictures

of it setting A4 printouts so then at a third point I noticed that my cousin my auntie's daughter is filming us while we're chatting and I'm like what is that about and then in the corner of my eye I see it the Anko air fryer is approaching our table in the arms of my beaming uncle and I get to see the expression on my aunt's face as it comes to the table and then like she was yeah getting filmed

for this moment because we'd completely miss that he had bid on it and won and he puts it down in such a way that it forms a kind of wall in the center of the table so that my aunt can't berate him and he's like sitting hiding behind this giant air friar and reading the instructions and she's just like the instructions the instructions for the airfriar and she's like get it out she goes to my cousin she's like do you have an air fray at home love and then she's like yeah i've got one she's like oh do you want a second one and he's so furious and it was incredible. Overall,

an amazing night. Do you know how much he bid on it? I don't know. It must have been. I can't imagine. Right? Certainly.

Everyone wanted that. But I was like, at the same time, it kind of made me crave moving to a small town and like taking over things. Becoming that woman. Right?

I just like, when I'm like, all right, seven o'clock, let's get started. Well, also just because I feel like it would be so easy

to topple some of these power structures. Yeah. Like, oh. It sounds like my grandma's balls club. Well, that's the, every town you go to there is like the Queen Supreme and like they run the their little section of the world. But I'm like, if I got in there, I could just, you know, absolutely. Like, give me a month. Yeah.

And like a few well-placed kishas. I could have that place in order. I could see you as like rural cult leader. well my friend tristan my dear friend he moved to like a tiny tiny town five hours out of Victoria or five hours out of Melbourne and it in the space of a year was like on the community council like running all like the winter festival like he like really did like go and take it over the entire town and then like was like running the six at the only cafe in town and like that whole thing and I just think that that's quite

chic but then he like tired of it and also those pub people were like almost impossible to move they really did run that town the pub people yeah they had a pub and it's like the beating heart of any small Australian town it's true

cafe just can't compete no no no for cha won't getcha very far no anyway not as far as a pine of caldonal Yeah, Chris Bale on a hot sunny day. Don, don't da-dun, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-na-da.

Okay, anyway, that's my story. And that's all. I like it. Thank you. Okay, so it sounds like you had a fun time. I actually did. I love that. And, like, you know, that is my kind of favorite place to be.

Well lit? Well lit. Shit in the toilet. shit somewhere near the toilet. Yeah. Nari a bartender to be found. Yeah. Yeah.

No, DOA at this event? No. No. Also, like, we need a... Yeah, I don't know. We just need a new drink at those kinds of beverage places. Yeah. Hard solo ain't cutting it.

Hard solo. Yeah. I've still not dared to try. Well, you don't drink, darling. Well, yeah, but... I think you'd like it. It's just... On occasion.

Alka pop Soft drink with vodka added Yeah Perhaps the day will come So we destroy the planet Yes I think it's my week It is your week

Yes Quickly Wait What? What? Did you say it? What did you say? Spiders

Yeah Okay great What were you going to say I was just going to say I was just going to say we should make it Like a haiku this week Like baby's shoes never worn baby shoes like one sentence what do you mean like you've got to end the world with one sentence

but it's you just did it with one word well yeah I was gonna say I'll do you one better spiders full stop and we'll be right back thank you hello and welcome back to this favorite I got stung by a bee Can I tell you listeners We were like Me and Zelda caught up To go to the new Hontro Disco Which was a gorgeous flashback

And Zelda and I were walking there And she was like And then I had to go home You know because of the bee sting And I was like what? And she was like No actually I can't tell you I'm saving it for the pod

I'm saving it for the pod And I'm like You got sung by a bee I assume that that's the story What happened? Oh, well So I got stung by B It was Thursday night

And as I presume everybody knows Thursday night's bin night And so I was at my house And I was taking You really have docks yourself this episode Oh true, yeah I'm giving away so many geographical locations You're like, it's near a river

The bin night is Thursday There's a small cafe in a main road Yeah With the park opposite It's from the other side of town Yeah Well Yeah

I'm always shocked when people know where you work But I've never said the word You have plausible denial of lady But yes I like Had work Got home Did whatever

and then it was like time to put the bins out. Goddard. Sounds like a great night. I'm never beating the allegations. What of being incredibly entertaining. Thank you. I got home and I did. I don't know what I do.

Just you sitting on the corner of your bed staring at the wall. Well, I was rocking backwards and forwards. Thank you very much. God, it really was a fun Thursday night. You got to mix it up sometimes. That's the rock night. I was then taking the bins out and I thought, oh, God.

What was that? And then I kept going. Where did you feel this? Well, I don't want to. Spoiler of that. But it was on my toe that I was like, have I stepped on a small stick? And then I kept walking.

And then I went to get the next bin. I believe it was recycling, not green waste that week. And then I was like, no, this actually hurts. like hurts as in like aches not like prick um as if i'd been injected by poison from a bee um and then i looked down and i thought is that a bee i don't know i'm so tall it's so far away and then i was walking on my uh like on the heel of my foot so that i didn't push whatever i'd stepped on further inside were you barefoot yes why were you doing the bins barefoot okay so this has been the recurring question

after I've told this story. Are you been telling it often? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Right. People need to know about beasting. Well, I'm glad you've saved it so I could have this treat now.

Yes. Well, I thought I'd share it with our hundreds of thousands of listeners. Thus far, I'm quite impressed that it's going quite a lot like how I expected it's like how I expected it's right. And... So you're barefoot? Yes. Because...

Yes. What? What? What you mean? I mean, like, my driveway is asphalt. So, like, that's fine. And also, if it wasn't, I still would be barefoot. I love being barefoot. Yeah.

Not so much anymore. Well, no. Perils. Yeah, but you got to roll the dice. I love. You know what I hate? Let's start with what she ate. I love what I hate.

It's when people who never go around barefoot, then do when they're like, Oh, like, oh, you can't walk on fucking pebbles. They got very sensitive toes. Yeah, because, oh, you live your life on carpeted floors and inside of shoes. Bear grillers over here. Get real. Like, walk around on a rock. Walk on a rock.

Don't just rock in bed. Yes. So I really hate that. So that's, I don't do that. Okay. Let's see how this turns up. Well, yeah, so I stepped on a bee. So then by the time I got inside

I then had a little look And indeed there was a stinger But there was no bee There was no bee So it had broken off like the And it was on the bottom of your heel It was like underneath my second toe Which was so uncomfortable

Because I am allergic to bees What? To what extent? Well on the limited amount of skin On my second toe which is not much, there was not much room for the inflammation that then happened.

So it was so tight and swollen because like, I don't know, if least if I got stung on my thigh, there's a lot of thigh to expand, but there's only so much skin around my second toe. So, yeah, it like blew up and was very uncomfortable and very itchy. But when I was little, I, like as a kid,

was much more allergic to Bays. You're not going to McCauley Colkin over here. No. Okay. What? And last time I got stung was like maybe 10, 15 years ago. And I remember it not being as bad. After 10 to 15 years of walking around barefoot.

Yeah. As Eliza Thornberry. Yes. And never be a beasting inside. No. What about an ant's nest? No, that's fine. I'm in their nest, you know.

What? Don't go in their nest. Yeah. Like if I got, like, bidden by an ant, you can't hold against the ant. If I'm stomping on their nest. I used to fill those nests up with water. That was a fun activity. You'd see where else the water would come up in the yard.

You know the ants have a queen, right? Yeah. Yeah. Can't stand the competition even then as a child. And you used water as your defense. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. Then it was just like, it wasn't that bad, but it was still very, very uncomfortable.

And I went to work the next day and then I had to leave it. early because I couldn't walk. You had to leave early? Yeah. Because you couldn't walk? Yeah. Because my foot was like throbbing. How did you say it to everyone?

I've got to go. I was like, I don't know if you know this about me, but I stepped on a bee last night. And why was the bee on the ground, do you think? Well. End of life. Yeah. Yeah. One last hurrah.

That's when I want to be the sting. because then she's got to experience everything. True. And she goes out like kind of in honour. Yeah. Defending something. Well, she was out at dusk on the ground. Yeah.

She's not going back to the hive. That's part. She was all juiced up with pollen as well. Yeah. On her last day. Yeah. It's my layer shift. But I think because, yeah, the bee like broke off the stinger relatively quickly because I was still walking.

Probably brushed it off. Why didn't she get smeared? Well, because I'm quite light on my feet, I presume. For her, it was a gargantuan woman stepping down. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, yeah. I'm glad you saved that story. That's okay. I'm glad the detail that surprised me was that you're allergic to bees. Yes. Although not in a way that's actually dramatic or it sends you to the emergency room. Well, what about this one? No, I've never gone to hospital for a sting. When I was like a kid to a teenager,

major and would get stung it got progressively worse to like once when I got stung on my arm like my entire arm like blew up like bad um but yes then there was a time where I was working with my uncle sometimes because I used to work with my dad all the time and my dad's a gardener and then my uncle for a period did um some garden maintenance stuff and I did some work with him and there was this day where I was mowing a lawn. I'm sorry, could I just stop you there? Are you wearing toe socks right now? Yeah.

Listener, I've just looked at Zelda's foot. Yeah. And she's got the kind of hoof experience going on where the big toe is separate to the other four bifurcated foot. Yeah. okay we've never been to japan no i've never been to japan oh wow i've never known of such a thing but i have been to a um a hippie school in the 1990s and i do know what toe socks look like well thankfully this is somewhere in the middle i mean they're very chic socks until i realized that your big toe was articulated you know what's gross about this is so you can see just like how big

the big toe is look at that oh i really I really do not like looking at this. And, like, you can almost see the, the nail in this. Like, it's defined. Sorry about that. Sorry, what were you saying? Is it still extra big? Oh, yes.

Still extra big from the sting? No, but my foot is still sore. It does look like it's completely. You look like both your feet are having an anaphylactic experience. Hubbert feet. And so, there I am in East Bentley or something. mowing someone's backyard and I went under a tree, like a low hanging tree branch and walked into a beehive that was hanging off that tree branch. And I like smashed with my head

the hive. And then I was covered in bees. And it's a nightmare. And I had, And, um, listener, up until like five years ago, I've always had my entire life, like, very long hair. And at this point, I had my hair, like, tied up, but in, in, like, a big bun or something. But then I had, um, like, ear, like, ear muffs on because of the noise of the warm noah. And then, like, I was, like, covered in bees. And then they were, like, in my, like, who. hoodie and in my sleeves and I'm like trying to get them off and then like the earmuffs got caught up in all of my hair which was full of bees I like I couldn't get the earmuffs

because like they were tied up with the hair tie and the bees and then I got stung so many times um were you screaming yes like I mean like running from this person's backyard being like This is! Get him on me! This is why you don't like Winnie the Pooh? And my uncle who is like not the most empathetic man in the world. And not that interested in the dramatics of a gay person. Is this your dad's brother?

No, this is mum's brother. Oh. Mm. Mm. Oh. So he was like, all right. Well, we've got half an hour left here. So.

You're fucking kidding. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. So anyway, that was the more dramatic B moment of that. And what did you say to him? I need to go to a hospital. And what did he say to you?

We've got half an hour left here, so I'll just finish off the edges. So you just lay there dying while he finished off the way. I think I left. I think I actually left. I thought probably this was a long time ago. I'm pretty sure I went to my brothers. God damn. Yeah.

And then did he take you to a hospital? Well, my brother's a doctor. So it's the same thing. True. So anyway. I didn't realize your uncle was a cunt. Yeah. What a piece of shit.

Yeah. So annoying. Not my favorite. But what a perfect segue to lead us to our first topic of discussion today, which is which craft. Which craft, home and handy craft. Yeah. For when drinking isn't enough, you can craft. well what about um what do they call um home brewing beer oh yeah matt you're about due to start

doing that yeah aren't home brewing beer yeah no i think i'd be more of a kombucha type oh god no i don't like i don't like brewing i don't like brewing i don't like brewing well you'll never be a witch i only make it i only make my chai mix Like Ben Buggy. And my partner's doing bread now. Do bread and shy. That's it now. Like Ben Buggy.

That's right. Well, I start it first, but yeah. Okay. Well, I like craft. Although there are a few rules about how I like things. Go on. I don't like it when people like make it annoying. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. I just think like, number one, formalizing too much of the craft. Today we're going to sit down. we're going to make this. Yeah. I'll tell you what I'm going to make. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. I like, yeah. I think like, I love when, yeah, it's got open-ended solutions to, like, closed problems. Like, we can, we're today we're doing clay. And anything you want to make out of clay. That's a great place.

Yeah. Whereas, like, today we're going to recreate this image. I think that happens too much in schools where they're like, today we're going to make this pastel picture of outer space. Yeah. And I'm like, what? I'll tell you Where's your imagination?

Yeah, and it's kind of like prescribed creativity For children that are a bit dull Yeah So I'm like, oh God, don't pander Don't pander to these children They should be forced to make ugly work While that the rest of us succeed Correct

Yes What are your favourite You're like quite a crafty person What are some of your Wait, well before I say that What I will say is that I really dislike When people are like like crafts

and hobbies yeah of course we're just talking about crafts right now but like some people will dedicate their life to a craft yeah violin making yeah that's my craft

yeah but I haven't done very I'm on still in my first one so I can't say that that's my craft it's a craft that have started but like when people like the trend part of crafting right

I don't like that Yeah, yeah, yeah Oh, you like this thing today Well, what about tomorrow? Yeah Like, oh, I see you've done one project Never just pick it up again Huh, yeah

So you're a faker So you're just doing it for attention Like resin jewellery Yes It's like I don't need to see your like First, second and third attempt And then never see it again

I'd rather just never see it at all But if you're like They're like Artists markets Yes You know like a lot of artists Are like making things that are quick an easy and cheap.

Yeah. And then they think it'll sell like thousands of copies. And they've set up their little fucking market stall next to the person who's been making like, I don't know, like chopping boards that are the shape of Tasmania for 50 years. That's a craft. That I can get behind. I'll never buy one. I think it should be set on fire.

But I appreciate that he's dedicated to the craft. What if you were really cold and it was snowing outside? Yes. You'd buy one for the fire. For the fire. Yeah. Although it would be covered in a seashore-style resin. Yes.

Or it would have like a little burnt emblem of like their brand. Rastica. But you best believe that they're going to be doing it next week as well. Whether it sells this week or not. But I think Stole culture has gone downhill at markets. I remember you used to get all kinds of odds and sods. Do you know, I was really keen to go to the Caribbean Gardens again recently. because I wanted to go to Rollerama and have a nice roller skate

and then go and check out the Saturday morning market at Caribbean Gardens. Where is this? What are you saying? I've never heard of this before. You've never heard of Caribbean Gardens? Where is it? Okay, so I've learned to... Is it in the Caribbean?

No. It's off the highway, the East Link. It's in Knoxfield, I think. What? Anyway, it's the one with the giant Plexigas pirate that's two stories high holding a giant treasure chest. They wheel him out to the roadside on Saturdays. With the doubloons? He's holding a treasure chest, filled with de blooms.

Cool. Anyway, so I discovered, number one, that it's been closed for 10 years. Number two, that the way that it started was because they put a man-made lake there for testing boats. Back when they used to manufacture boats at Knoxfield for some reason. Cool. And then they were like... You know they have an ocean, right? not near Knoxfield

darling she's never toasted the ocean why make boats somewhere that's landlocked listen darling that would be a very expensive lake make the lake they had the pirate no so the pirate was to come and so then they were testing the boats and then the owners of this land were like

you know what and back then it was just all farmland out there and one boat there was no freeway no freeway yet people had to travel seven days on horse and car exactly to get their boat boat.

And so I guess the boat industry out in the farmland wasn't going so well. So the owner was like, I'm going to turn my hand to turn this into an amusement park to rival Disney, down under Disneyland. And so they opened this man-made lake to the public. And then they did water shows, people could swim. and then they put in, like, you know, those gondola, like, you know, aerial things. No, no, no, like the, what just crashed in Lisbon, one of those, like, giant, like, it's a cable car. Oh. They put a cable car or, like, a chairlift thing.

Yeah. They put in these, like, pod things made out of plexiglass and all these plexiglass giant, like, creatures and stuff. And then they started a market where people could come and sell their wear. And it became the largest, like, mark in the Southern Hemisphere. It's huge, huge. And then the times when I was going there, I discovered now that it was the hotbed of DVD piracy in the Southern Hemisphere. There was so much DVD piracy that it, like, became this, like, like, it was making national news. Wow.

But they were like, we've got to shut down the Caribbean gardens for the amount of piracy. Because that was the place where you could go. Wait, is that why they made a big pirate? Not, oh, my God. Oh, my God, the signs were all there. But it was where you'd go and get your PlayStation 1 modded so you could play pirate games. It was where you could like, yeah, go and get, like, Pokemon.

Like, literally, I get the chip put in. Such cool things. And it was so deep and wide and, like, varied. And it was so cool, like, fabulous. Yeah. But it doesn't exist anymore. Wow. A husk.

Hmm. So is the... The Rotherama is still there. Okay, yeah. Cool. Thank God. And they have drag queens there sometimes. Oh.

Twirling. It's such a cool building. It looks like it's ripped straight out of the 1980s. I feel like I'm in bloody stranger things when I go out there. I feel like I'm like that Millie Bobby Bram. You know? Yeah. Yeah, we'd do be like that.

I feel like Vickner's going to come and get me. Oh, fuck off. Ew. Um, I have an ingrained hair on my knee. Oh. And last night, I was trying to dig it out. And I was, like, actually, like, digging inside of my body to get it out. And I didn't get it.

Maybe you'll get it in this podcast. And the toe socks. I don't know how this date happened at all. Were you barefoot on the date? No. You're like, hi. like sorry about my giant toe but you know the worst thing

take off your shoes sensitive step out of pebble watch me I'm gonna go and run on the dry grass I'm not even I'm not even feeling it did you say that to him

What I I I can't even remember what I said because I'm so angry right now Think about the crafts Let's think about the crafts Yes, so growing up, my mother loves handcrafts, like, cross-stitch, knitting. She's such a good knitter, and I've never been able to get the advantage out of that.

Put an order in. She would love that. I know, but I've got to figure out what I want. Yes. She's going to make me a jumper with a letter K on it. Just one? Yes. Wait, what?

Go on. Yes. Oh, God. I just can't go into any of those like mirror rooms Yes and then like quilting She did a little bit of sewing She does more sewing now I didn't realize quilting was so hard

Oh yeah And like involved Oh Because like you do all of the sewing of everything together You haven't quilted shit yet You like make the entire thing And then you quilt it God damn.

That quilting is like the final overlay. No. Oh. That's a lot. And you got wadding. Yeah. Yeah. God, what are those things you always used to buy?

Like patch squares? Is that what they were called? Fucking hell. How could so many disgusting fabrics go into production? Yeah, who is deciding on all this fabric design? I don't know. It's like, well, this one has a cream background, and then it has a mixture of fox faces and shoe horses.

that would be a good job to make disgusting fabrics for yeah I feel like I'd run out of ideas for fabric like three days in it I'd be like I don't know ducks again yes yes Ducks the dicks oh Matt you got a little

you would like that wouldn't you oh my god Matt just found an incredible picture from the Caribbean Gardens which I will now describe on top of the food kiosk that used to be able to get at Caribbean Gardens is a chef it's a giant head of a chef but he looks like he is an old Russian man who's seen the dark arts of war. I'm just saying this now.

What the fuck? And then beneath him, emblazoned across a sign, is one that says, Mmm, yum. And then three buckets of chips that says, hungry. Hungry. In yellow lettering, San Serra. And then next to that, hamburger. And a picture of a hamburger.

But this man looks like he's got these really thick eyebrows in the devil's moustache and a go-to. Well, I think the family who built the place, I was reading about it, they were really interested in fiberglass. So, and that's what they built the boats out of. Yeah. But they also built everything else at the park out of fiberglass as well. I love fiberglass, but it freaks me out because of like the splinters.

You don't inhale that. But they were, I was also reading because it closed, they were auctioning off all the stuff from the park. Oh, see, this is a couple of years ago. You should have got in on that. If only I had known. I say one of my regrets in this life is that when there was like a couple years ago and the crew who made Danger Five had this like massive prop sale and there were those

like dinosaur heads and just like all these like cool props from that show but by the time I like found out about it like you know it had all like sold pretty much and there was just a few like things that weren't as interesting left. I was like, oh, I've only had been more on the pulse. I was looking into recently, because I realized, well, I'd been away over Zelda's birthday on the Star Wars the Fourth. And so I was like, oh, I should get her a gift at some point, you know, because she's aging. Every second.

And I've seen someone talking about how, like, you know, you could get like cells from different animated TV shows and things. And I was like, I wonder what the market. is like for Evangelion like cells because obviously there's like a lot of cells out there in the world and the

market they do exist but like once you get them you have to fight their deterioration day by day as the cellulo's like wants to turn into UV slash but also I come to find that the

character that Zelda likes most from Evangelian which is Oscar. Oscar is everyone's favorite character. Oh. And everyone wants her in a celluloid. And there's like $5,000.

God damn it. For like one frame of Evangelion. Wow. Yeah. That's cool. Wouldn't that be cool? Yes. That's a great gift.

Even just you've given me the gift of considering such a gift. That's a thought that counts. Yes. Yes. It was all thought. Yeah. But imagine. I mean, they do reproductions from time to time,

which is also cool, but it'd be so cool to know you owned a single frame of an actual used in production. Yes, totally. This is reminding me that I haven't given you a birthday gift. A gift? Well, I haven't given you it either because it doesn't exist. It's still on the internet in eBay.

I didn't know. Oh, I'll bring it tomorrow. Okay. Anyway, craft. Oh, yeah. Well, craft. I mean, I think a craft does need to have, like, a certain formal constraints, like, despite the fact that I do hate, like, a really, like, tunnel vision craft. I think it does help if it has, like, like, crustitch or, like, blanket making or whatever.

No. You know, what's that craft? What do you call it? It's like crustage. It's, like, embroidery, but it's, like, tapestry making. What is that called? Like, wait, like long stitch? Like where you make a giant tapestry but you use just your regular size thread.

And it's like a picture. And it's a picture, but like basically like they take, I don't know. That's just called tapestry. 10 years like to make one tapestry. I've done a few in a day. Well, my friend back to Tristan, his mother was working on a tapestry before she died. and like when I tell you it's like doing an individual pixel in a yeah they do like tiny tiny but that's also on like

they have like those sheets of kind of like a mesh it's like a fly screen mesh yeah yeah yeah oh you're talking about latch hook oh yeah is that what it's called which I've done I did a latch hook of a giraffe how to come out awful I think it's... It was just disgusting. Like, oh.

Was it free? Did you just, like, come up with that idea? So, like, mum had, like... Did you just come up with that crazy idea of doing giraffe? Mom had a subscription to, like, a craft magazine, like a handy craft magazine. Oh, God. And you could, like, buy things from the catalogue. And because, you know, any parent wants their children to be interested in what they're interested in.

And so mom was very like, you know, like, oh, I'll teach you boys how to do this. And you can, you know, have your own little project and blah, blah, blah. That's cute. So, like, I was allowed to pick out this, like, latch hook, giraffe rug slash wall display or whatever. Oh. And it was like this kit that came. And so it had that hard, yeah, like wide, like mesh. that is like this weird kind of like waxed

clad or whatever and then it has the picture like printed onto it and then like you have the colour coding system and you go through and you're like yeah translate your thread to the picture except that the like makeup gun style picture

that was printed on it did not align to the grid that was provided so like you kind of were cursed with the choice of like do you just put the yellow where the yellow is on the picture or do you follow the actual like cell by cell yeah to fill it in properly and i can't remember which one of those i chose but in the end it was disgusting and i hated it and you never went back not to latch hook although the actual latch hook is so cool and it actually really helped when i learned how to do like um weaving of like wigs and like pastiches and stuff.

Because now you do all your own wigs. Of course. Or more accurately, I know how to. Yeah. Whether I choose to or not. It depends on the day, really. Yeah. Latch hookin.

I can't imagine my mother was ever going to be like, here's a craft. She was not really a crafty lady. But you did develop into an entertainer or an actor. Yeah, that's true. she did help me what happens when a parent has a child who has like completely different interests I mean listen it does happen you see it all the time I mean like your mother probably has that experience with you well yes but then there's some crossover what I still like a little like mom loves it when I like sew things or whatever yeah so it's like ooh you saw your own

costume wow of course or more important me after you're done with you I could I was having some fun sewing recently which is fabulous but I'm like I could never do this, you know, for long term. I just, I don't know. I'm like, to me, craft is always in service of like something. Like, I hate the creation of objects for, for what? You know what I mean? Yes.

And so, like, that's, I think that's why mum is always, like, after our project. Like, because she always wants to be doing a craft. But, you know, you run out of ideas or whatever. And she doesn't just want to make a. something yeah if it's like i'm going to make cane a pair of socks or whatever it's in service yeah it needs to be practical yeah but yeah some people will just make a thing which is lovely if they can sell it at a market and perhaps make a tidy profit not from the glaring homosexuals steering at them from across the booth but someone done one someone will buy that shit yeah um but yeah i think it is

tricky to know i my dad's um my dad's new jeef she oh my god like I came into the house after she's like lived there for a little bit she's moved in with my dad which is very exciting and there was a framed picture and it was like a it's kind of like a shadow box style

deep frame and there was like a butter like a little single serve butter pad and then there was a fly on top of it and she was like I made that and I was like bitch you were so far up my alley Yeah, what?

Just a disgusting, like, blowfly on a butter. It was like, it's a butterfly. And then she was like, I did another one. It was the Beatles, and it was just four beetles. But I dressed them up like the Beatles. And I was like, I fucking love that. That's great. Yeah.

Yeah, what about, like, dead bug art? Yeah. Is that a craft or is that an art? I've been watching this woman on TikTok who's turning black widows into door handles. I'm going to love you How big are they? Well, she puts them in like a lusite Like clear resin

So when you reach for the handle You go Oh wait, it's just fun I mean I've done Taxidermy But not on insects I actually don't really know how that process works I remember

For a while my friend Aiden was doing taxidermy as part of his art practice and there'd be a period when you would go to his house and when we shed a house and you would open the freezer and there'd be a dead magpie that he'd found along the who's a vegan as well which is a funny combo but as are you well vegetarian but yeah and then like for a while the whole bottom part of the freezer was taken by his dead cat um which then he like turned into a flat rug and put diamond in its eyes. Yeah, right.

It was cool. It was very cool. It's like the, I mean, my freezer was the same for a very long time. And then there was like a power outage. And it was like too much. Frank. And I had some really, she's throwing out 10,000 dead animals again.

Yes. I had a, I had a lamb and it was so beautiful. And I'd had it for ages because I was trying to like get my skill set up so that I could endeavor to like do the lamb justice and then i had to like bury them all because they all defrosted in this like power outage i wasn't going to put an ice block lamb into the fucking garbage bin you're a better woman than i am should have been in the bin flushed she's going to get buried eventually landfills get covered over oh my god do you know do you can i just say yeah do you know that at work now

because I'm trying to keep it a tidy workplace and people love leaving their shit around without their name on it that when the time comes if I'm doing it or if I'm asking someone else to clear the water bottles

I'll be like but make sure you don't put it in the bin with the lid on we don't want to trap the water we can't have trapped water in landfill and the way that people look at me as if I've lost my fucking mind.

Well, I'm glad that someone cares about the trapped water. Yes, so that's your influence, sister. Oh, God. Yes, you've managed to terrorize many employees. Well, I didn't create your OCD. So what craft? So what craft? What about scrapbooking?

Oh. Do you know what? I do... Oh. You know when you see... like you you consider the the thing but then like when you see it done well you're like I'm kind of into that you know and I think like the one of the those people is Miss Sheridan's guy Gabriel Labucci's non-sexual life partner see there we go

yeah that worked and every time I see Sheridan she's working on a new craft and she loves to do junk journals which are just like books that you convert into journals like find books and add piece of paper and blah, blah. And then she also does coloring in, which I had always thought was like kind of an insipid art form. Because like, draw your own picture. But the way that they're doing coloring in now is they use those, you know, not POSCA, but like the ink, like those high-end ink pens.

And what people do is they reinterpret the coloring and add like, lighting effects and like that sort of stuff and they end up looking really cool and it is quite creative. You know what that reminds me of that's also a craft is kind of the same thing but it's like on a glass pane and you've like you do it in the layers that are opposite so like you build up the artwork. Well don't be surprised if that's how you get an evangelicalian print. Well yes. So cool. And they always look really cool. Well, I think that my feeling for this category is About two years ago, rug tufting became the thing de jure

Here we go And I got a rug tufting garden Yeah, I had that go And You're selling them still? And I just How many rugs did you make? Well, here's the big

You're still taking them down to Caribbean gardens? I've never made a rug and it's so heartbreaking because I've followed through on so many of my plans and ambitions in life and I hate

getting something and saying that I'm going to do something and they're not doing it so when it's late at night and I'm lying in my bed staring at the ceiling I'm thinking probably nine out of ten times about that rug tufting gun where is it? Is under your

head? No, it's in the garage. It's not calling to you. It is definitely calling to me. And I will... I will rug tuft. There's like two creative projects that like hang over my head and make me want to die. And that's, it's just, it's so painful that I haven't...

What's the other one? Oh, Fabouche, the card game. Oh, yes. Which I really want to do. Once again, it's hanging over my head. Yeah. But that requires a lot, whereas rug tufting I should just... do one week of rug tufting.

So my proposal would be, let's put my rug tufting gun into the bunker. Yeah. With a view that in the future, perhaps someone will do it. Yes. I think the people in the bunker need more things to keep them up at night. Yeah. I think they have enough anxiety. It's either got to be the people...

You thought you meant with the noise. Well, no, a combo. Either people giving it a go and then. giving it up, like two minutes in, or people thinking about giving it a go. I'm going to give it a go. When I get back from New Zealand, where I'm going for the Palmid Drag Fest, I'm going to give rug tufting a go. Follow this space.

And that, you know what, I'm just going to, I'm going to get everything done before I go. And you're going to make what, I don't know, like Homer Simpson retracting into the hedge or something but like as a rug no I really have a vision I want to make some kind I need to find a recognisable print because I think it only works

if you do it is something that people know outside of the context of rug a recognizable print like a floral print that's quite famous or like a designer brand thing and then I want to tuft it

and make it into like a fabric that I can use in a dress and have like a full tufted dress because I think that would look look very cool. And I think that would be very cool for like a handbag or something as well. Yeah. I was looking at really textured handbags this week.

You could also do like hypothetically, like a full tufted dress wig, like everything is tufted, sunglasses. And I think that that would be quite aesthetically exciting. Totally. If you could like make it look like you need to be vacuumed. Yes. Yeah. And someone can offer you a lint roller and go, oh no, no.

And then you get out a little car vacuum and go, Vr-H-ha-ha-ha-ha. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I like that. I was actually going to suggest that as well. So, perfect. You were going to suggest that as well?

You're tufted and gotten. Yeah. Yes. Oh, God. Yeah. I'm going to love you. Okay. Okay.

Bye-bye. Welcome back Listener Did you see bad bunnies doing the fucking Super Bowl this year? Really? Yeah, that's weird. I'm sorry, but what the fuck?

Did you watch Snoop Dog at the grand final? No. No. Eat my ass. Everyone was really up in arms about him. What did he say something fucking. transphobic just before? He said homophobic stuff.

His child or friend or whatever was confused by the lesbians in Lightyear. Yeah, and he was like, I don't know how to tell them about that. I'm scared to take kids to movies now. Yeah. Is he saying everything's too woke, I think? Yeah. But I'd be scared to take kids to movies in America, but because of the lack of gun regulations that leads to a lot of mass shootings.

Yeah. Hmm. No. No, but it's the fucking lesbians on the screen. Oh my God, I've been watching the other two. You've got to watch the other two, but it's incredible. There's one scene where a gay guy, who's an actor, is like going to play Disney's first openly gay character, and he comes into the meeting, and they're like, you're going to play this guy in Haunted House 3, and it's like a ball of slime. And he's like, you're a ball of slime.

And then the Dracula lady opens the door, and she finds you in bed with another ball of slime. And the first openly gay couple is appearing on screen, and they're like, in what way of that is that gay? Well, because the slime would be in bed with a woman if he was straight. That's good. That's real good. Okay. So, our next topic for discussion today is which metal gets into the bunker?

Which metal or metal? I don't know. What do you think I said? We could do either. I'm open. You can. decide which one well zinc okay so which metal oh no i said i'm gonna think no which metal heavy heavy metals heavy metal the movie what we'll be right back

no just joking tin have you seen heavy metal i don't know what you're talking about heavy metal the movie from the 80s you know with like the women like the barbarian women flying through... What? Zelda. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what I'm talking about either. Okay, so medals have many properties.

Gold. Gold is one of the medals. It's elemental symbol is... Oh! Oh! Are you saying you don't know what heavy metal is? It's like a cartoon. It's like a cartoon, like sexy rock chick movie from the 80s

where like her tits are out and like heavy metal. You know, heavy metal? Oh, my God. I think you might have... Look at this woman! She does look in good. How has she not influenced your entire life? She does look amazing.

And she's driving a teradactyl. Sure. And she's got a sword. And like, because wasn't it also a magazine? It looks to be. Yeah. Her name is Tarnah. It's so good.

A five-part animated feature. An evil glowing orb travels through space and time. spreading violence and discord well I like it already see any evil orb it was produced by Ivan Reitman what the hell okay oh John Candy

ooh um so like steel real steel stainless steel stainless steel stainless steel steel stainless sea is titanium yeah um blah la la la la la

fly away I am titanium wait isn't that what she says no oh whatever um oh yeah bad bunny oh yes i'm confused i thought we put legacy acts into the fucking super bowl i think it's weird because like bad bunny is talented but it's not time yet for bad bunny bad bunny doesn't have enough hits it's ben buggy ben buggy so um i i Barely know who this is, but I have seen this person and thought... He's a Puerto Rican superstar.

He's a gay guy. He's gay? Allegedly. He's gay? Allegedly. I just thought he was like gay baiting. That's why I've not liked him. Bating and gooning.

IRL, because he's gay, allegedly. Look at how hot he is. Yeah. It's fucking outrageous. I like it like that. Oh, wait, that's not the photo I meant to show. Yeah. He all know about the badest bunny.

Wait. Yeah. They're going to put a gay guy on the Super Bowl? Allegedly. Wait, how gay? Well, it looks pretty gay here. Bad Bunny responds to accusations that he queerbates with fashion. He's not gay.

He is gay baiting me. No, he's gay. He's like Pedro. Ugh. Okay. So. Okay, which metal? No, okay, back to this.

Oh, yeah. Do you know why Taylor Swift didn't end up doing it? No. Because she asked to get paid. what the super bowl is not a paid gig really what the artist's pay for their own like props and shit that's crazy wow

so jalo was the only one that's been paid what jalo was the only one that's been paid no well she wouldn't need to pay for that privilege so that you must be wrong oh they would have paid her I love don't cost a thing mm-hmm um no yeah i think um it like it's just crazy that like we get pissed off we're not going to get paid

our fee for gigs yeah and there are big pop acts out there that like and like the super ball is like we you should be so lucky this is the biggest stage in the world and it's like yeah and i'm doing free fucking performance for the your shitty football game yeah i wonder like i do actually wonder because maybe the truth would be haunting but like when the Super Bowl puts like its highlight real of the game onto YouTube or whatever. Does like that get more views or does the halftime show get more views or do like all of the like movie trailers get more views?

Yeah, I think it's the half time show that gets the most views. So then what? Yeah. And Adele was up for the chance, which again is someone that actually has enough hits to sustain a seven minute performance. And she allegedly has said no because she's scared of getting assassinated like Charlie Kirk. Oh, Jesus.

Does she have strong political views? No, but I think she's just like, well, if someone, like, you know, any of us can get shot. Yes. I think if Adele did get shot, it would probably spark the beginning of World War III. Like, definitely. If we're getting this much out of one shitty fucking racist podcaster, then imagine if the treasure of the world Adele got shot

I know I mean you couldn't shoot pink because she'd be whizzing around too fast that's why she never stops moving That's why she doesn't stop moving Don't give them a chance bitch Get your scope out and try But famously Adele's kind of the opposite Exactly

The only reason that she wouldn't get shot is because there'd be like Delta work would be there dressed as Adele Like, we just keep trying, but... We keep shooting these drag queens and just seem to be able to pull it off. Yes. Um, oh my God. Okay.

That's why the girls start bringing out drag impersonators. They're like, got to have enough human shield drag queens on stage. So much cheaper than bodyguards. And they really go down hard. They're paying me to be up here. That's right. Oh my God But yeah

So It is weird There fellas Like got Katie Perry Last year And Snoop Dog It's like They're spending a lot of money

On their half time shows Right Yeah They're really pushing it Into a new Sort of Yeah Like

I think it's silly Yeah Yeah They really just need To get Australian You reckon Well Yeah

100% I have to agree I also think That the Super Bowl Should be American Acts What?

Not that I like Who is not American? Like Wait What? Like Adele. Didn't you just say bad bunny is Puerto Rican? Yeah, Puerto Rico is the territory of the United States.

Yeah, but it's not like... Oh, my God. They're American citizens. Okay. That's why there's so many Puerto Rican queens on... Well, I actually, as I said, I don't really know who this person is. How often? But didn't...

Do they... Well, okay, well, then that's good. I think that it's good. I think that... But Adele is also, I think, an American citizen. Is she? I think so. She lives in L.A. now, so she'd have to be.

But she talks like this. It is a land of immigrants. You can have your accent from your homeland. Smoking. But I do think it was weird that Katie Perry did the fucking NFL grand final. Yeah, but who do we have? She brought out, what's her name? Well, yeah.

She did. Then they brought out like Baker Boy and Jessica Malboy and, you know, and they like they did their own shirt performances as well and stuff. But I just feel like the main act should be. Australian Who would you have though Jet? Yeah Jet did come back

Like they've had Jet I guarantee Jet has been had And it didn't cause a stir Well I mean I mean that's the issue No Few Australian acts

Could cause a stir No But like Like Jessica Malboy can only do so much Yes Natalie Bathing's weight Can only do so much Yes

Yeah I just don't know Who the musician is that's going to create enough spectacle and excitement. Yeah, I feel like there used to be a lot more. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it would have been, like, in excess would have been good. Yeah.

Like, it's that kind of genre. Yeah, like those sorts of. Midnight oil. But there's just not really any bands left. Well, rock's dead. Get Nick Cave there. That would be depressive. Yeah.

Oh. Into my arms, oh, large. That's a footy song. You know, yeah. Is it? Yeah, catching the ball. Yeah. He could...

I also just like, we don't need to reward these people for the behavior. Football people. Like, what a waste. Like, why are we giving sports people like this? They clearly would be entertained with just a ball going into a fucking area. Just give them more of that. Save the real shit for other people. Yeah.

you know and so what metal goes into the bunker my temptation is to just say gold and call it a dead gold so soft yeah and which one yellow white or

rose I don't like that metals why would you get white gold that seems silly right I actually don't understand also so soft I hate that about gold

I think we should put lead in lead I like how poison all the pipes are of lead. More lead for the girls. Do you have any kind of metal that you're attracted to? I think that...

A medal with a light patina. Silver. I do. I do. I do. I do. I like tungsten. Why?

Give it a go. Say the word. Tungsten. Yeah, isn't that good? Yeah, sure. Yeah. I think that, like, I'd like... metal like i like the idea of this like um yeah what do you like the idea of it's like wood

but hard yeah but sometimes it's not malleable i would love to like do metal working speaking of craft like that is so cool i think like heating something up and turning into a liquid and then reshaping it and being able to do that as much as you like it's so cool and what would you do i don't know what's your first project i would make a garden steak? No, no, no, no. I would make like a, um, like a boiled egg cup, but it's, uh, it's like a snail, you know, and like the shell is the egg. You know, there's a finite amount of metal in the world. Perhaps we shouldn't waste it. But you know what? You don't like your little egg holder. Melt it down. Make something else. I imagine we will. But that's so cool.

I do think about that during like the great revolution in China where they would steal all the pots some pens from all the starving people and say, we're going to melt these down to have an industrial revolution. Yeah. That's so tragic. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know. I think, like, paper clips are probably the first metal that I interacted with. Uh-huh. Yeah. As a human. Yeah. And I think I'm quite partial to that. What are they made out of some sort of combination?

Yeah, an alloy. You know what I don't like is, like, alloys on a car being, like, the thing that's, like, on the wheel. Is that true? That's what they called, right? I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Yeah. Like, the metal disc that sits on the wheel. Are they called alloys?

And I just think that's a stupid name. Well, obviously. Because, like, an alloy is a metal mixture. And words shouldn't mean two things. No. No, because also those things are made out of metal And I just feel like it's diluted the message of what an alloy is It says hubcap

Okay, wow Isn't it called that Alloys of aluminium and magnesium Are typically lighter for the same strength Provide better heat conduction And often produce improved cosmetic appearance over steel wheels Well, you've, okay It's just a type of wheel

There's a, that's the type of alloy The middle of the wheel is made of an alloy or steel. Yes. But it's not called an alloy, it's called a wheel. And then the hubcap is the thing that goes over the top to hide that bit. Well, my issue... It's not called alloy, though. There's no issue.

Well, they're called alloy wheels. The unfortunate thing that has happened in the last five minutes. Well, just cut this bit out, Sarat. I think leave this in and double it. Just make this on repeat for the whole hour and a half. Alloy a few more times. Alloy. Alloy.

Alloy. Alloy. Alloy. Alloy. I sound like I'm Welsh. Alloy. That means hello. Alloy.

Alloy. I hate. Alloy. It's diluted the message of what an alloy is. Alloy wheels. No shit. They're an alloy. So many things are alloys.

No, but they speak like, you know, before they were just steel. Now they're alloy. Alloy. Alloy. People are excited about L.A. And Damascus. It's cool, but it's fucking ugly. Sorry, your little chef's nice that's like a Damascus steel blade is ugly.

It's ugly. Sad. You can't tell me it's not ugly. What do you mean? Then what do you like about it, if not the aesthetic? Damascus. Yeah. The word.

Oh. That's great. Wait, you don't like that pattern? And I love how. it's made it's so cool you don't like the ribbed ridged cat like that's fucking ugly it looks like a wood grain ugly yeah but it's not wood it's metal well but it's the lines are coming from somewhere sweaty yeah from the process of making the damascus yeah i just think it's i just think it's ago and i think that like making your like timber like i've got a youtube channel where i make

tables. And to support me, you can buy my Damascus steel, you know, Stanley knife. Like, it's not cool just because it's Damascus. It's actually ugly. Wouldn't you say? I'm looking at it. It looks like marbled paper and I'm really into it. Oh, my God. Do you know? No. Let's put in Damascus steel knives. Oh, my God. I can care. Two against one. Yeah. Uh, whatever. Lock it in. Can't wait until we do it. We're going to have some things that you hate in there. Damascus. Damascus.

Yeah, it's done. Zelda, what do you call an annoying sewing machine with a YouTube channel? What? Damascus singer. That's all. Thank you. That's pretty good. I'm taking the show on the road.

Jesus Christ. Goodbye. Welcome back, listener. Now, something terrible has happened. Wait, Matt, don't. Okay, so I was listening to an episode of this podcast. Oh, God. Why?

And I thought, wait, what have I said? That is not the name that I meant to say. Ben buggy? No. And then we got an in. email shortly after that aired from listener Bronwyn. Who knew that someone called Bronwyn was listening? I mean, I did know that. I presume that this is my friend. I felt it. But, um, Bronwyn is such a rare name. Um, but she said,

she actually sent two emails. What did Gillian Anderson do or say? Google's not telling me, Zelda, I need to know, please. And then shortly after, she sent another email that said, by the way, this pod is my only source of news. Oh, God. So, well, a couple of terrible things have happened. But here's my statement. Yes.

When I said Gillian Anderson, what I meant to say was Jillian Michaels. and this was in terms of showing support for Charlie Kirk because Gillian Anderson did indeed not say like, oh, and it was Jillian Michaels. And I didn't even question that. No. That's weird. Yeah.

I was just like, oh, well. Yeah. And when I listened back to it, I was like, wait, what the fuck? As if Gillian Anderson has a soda line called G-spot. So, you know, we know where. side she's on. Yeah. True.

Whereas Jillian Michaels is a right-wing piece of shit. I don't know who Gillian Michaels is. Is she the biggest loser coach? Yeah. Yeah. That big old Les. Well, she is the biggest loser now. Yes.

She's being cancelled, hasn't she, from the documentary about it all? Wait. Is that what happened? I don't know. I think there's a new documentary about the biggest loser coming out. Oh. And they're all like saying how horrible. Yeah, I think it is just abusing fat people.

Do you know what? Can I just say, speaking of abusing people on reality TV, the project runway is finally done. Yes. What an enjoyable time I had. Loved that season. But they don't give them five weeks anymore to work on their line. They give them five days. The show is done.

I haven't finished it. I was watching it last night and then took my self. to bed um but i got up to like the runway and i was like what the actual fuck is this five days what is it i'm so not into it what's the point the most brilliant thing that hasn't really been seen in other reality tv is this huge break of time yes where it's like and then tim would go and like visit the house with your mom while you talk about your hideous collection or your weird boyfriend Yes. And like, oh, Tim Gun's here. I'm going to take you to my favorite, you know, like, cornered cafe. And Tim Gunn would walk into your house and they'd be like, inevitably, the most hideous early 2000s decor.

And then the designer would be like, this isn't actually my house. I'm just staying here while my friend is out of town. And then he'd be like, oh, God, this is stunning. Oh, this is really such a treat. What a nice house. and you said your mother made lasagna with spam and then they would sit down and oh he glanced over some sketches where the fuck is that? I really am excited about this this is a lot of potential

I can't wait to see what you do this is great I'm honestly and I have not said this ever before in the history of the show this is good and and instead it's like they go to mood and then have just like

and there's no dog at mood anymore Dog. Get another dog for mood. Yes. Just for the show at least. Yes. Pick up a stray, throw it in the fabric store. See what happened.

Yes. I want to see a close-up of that dog. Absolutely. Just use old footage. Oh, yeah. Wow. What a... Because the...

It's the thing that... The speed of reality TV is obscene now. So it's like... That's gone. It's just like that, I don't know how that show was doing it, but they're not exhibiting it in New York Fashion Week either. No. It's like we're in the back of the same set that we've had the whole time

for a bunch of former contestants and, I don't know, Tyro Banks. But it's just a shame because I think in that time, it allows them to de-escalate whatever intensity they had going on during the show, go home have a rest and really commit to doing some more exciting like techniques

and when they would have all that time and money it was really interesting seeing like something they haven't really talked about this season I don't think is like the budget yeah

like they just seem to be able to go and buy whatever the fabric they want I think they do give them they do save the budget they just don't make such a big deal of it yeah I think they got 7,000 for the for the line, $7,500.

Yeah, okay. But it used to be such a big part, which there's a, there's a thing there on like, well, that's not very much fun. Like, I want to see what they can make that's really cool, not what they can make with $30. But there's a reality part that I thought was really interesting about the final challenge because you're given like three months and say 10 grand.

Yeah. And the way that you spend that time and money was really interesting. Yeah. Because sometimes they would employ sowers. and sometimes they would get, yeah, like really expensive prints done or have like a fabric made and all this stuff. And you could really get into what like that person's like actual... Or they would make like 30 things and have to like winnow it down or whatever.

It's just like so many interesting things about the process. But instead it's really just a glorified. Challenge. Regular challenge. Which like still fun or whatever. But like pay. in comparison to what it used to be. I also think there's something about seeing those people back in their context.

Yes. That's so cool. Like, you get to see real people's homes, which you don't do anymore. Yeah. And also, as you were saying about, like, the drama of it all, there's been a lot of drama in this season of this show, which, like, is fun or whatever. But that shouldn't be the point of the finale. Yeah.

The finale is about the art. The art and the fashion and, like, the work and the perspective. and instead it's all just been overshadowed by the drama. Which I found, can I say, listener, if you haven't been watching Project Romway, I'm sorry, but the twins that are returning contestants to the show, their behavior has been absolutely repellent in a way that I haven't been turned off by people on a show in a long time. I find that the way that they speak to this other contestant that manages to get under their skin,

Fiji, is like they just continually call her a bitch. and berate her and watching her obviously like you know it doesn't seem to affect her which is great I can imagine that like you know if you're a trans woman living in America like you've heard worse but like I just from these gay men it feels so aggressive and like really uncouth and like they're like she's a bitch she's a really fucking bitch cunt like and I'm like oh my god could you not like it's so much like and it's like you need to remember your fucking place and remember some goddamn respect for the people around you because it's like actually so inappropriate it's like it's always that thing of like you know what it's like

so why are you doing it to someone else well right and it's also this like your misogyny is showing yeah because it's not cute what you're saying like this is a really disgusting way to speak about a woman yeah when it's not like there's there's a line there's a line of like if you're friends and you're saying it in a way that's like a mutually understood whereas you're being combative and it's like you're trying to intimidate her into making decisions or like you don't like the things she's saying and it's like well that's you can deal with that in a more and it's why i think tim gunn would have put a fucking stop to that immediately and i think christian syriano is not a good mentor no he is antagonistic to these people

and should be not brought back. No, I agree. Like, there needs to, like, absolutely the role of that person is to challenge ideas. Yes. And bring the best out of the designers. And Christian has, like, his approach to that, but it just feels mean-spirited. Yes. Not, like, Tim Gunn is such a, like, uniquely beautiful person.

Yes. That, like, we don't need to replicate that. But even when we had... Was his name Henry on the Australian one? Oh, yeah. He, like, you know, it was obviously very modelled after Tim, but, like, there's a way to do that. Yeah.

And just Kristen's approach is just like, okay. He doesn't seem to have a lot of intellectual curiosity about the designers' work. And he says, like, don't do that. The judges will hate that. Yeah. Whereas Tim wouldn't usually interrogate or, like, probe the designers to see, like, what's your thinking behind this and can I encourage you to think

about this in a different way instead of just saying don't do that, that doesn't work and it's like you're not even letting them kind of get the thought out before you shut it down or worse being like oh you're doing that yeah it's so gross I hate that anyway fuck that I think that they need to work out a few kinks however I'm excited to the show

he's back on but I think it does suffer a lack but I think drag race should really do the five week gap for the American season and give the girls a budget to and like the track they're like okay so you're going to be doing this Janet Jackson song you're all going to get to do your interpretation of it or and then go you've got this amount of time well to develop it we got a glimpse of that I mean we get a glimpse of it now with like the talent show which like that's nice but we'd love to see that in a bigger way yeah but on the COVID season which cursed but

getting to see how everyone interpreted that finale challenge and like um i'm like a bird i'm like a bird and even like they all did really interesting things yeah and that was really cool that was fun yeah yeah um okay so um our final topic for discussion today is which of Kanye's betrayers goes into the bunker Well, it wouldn't be a day of the week If Kanye wasn't out on the internet Saying out of pocket things Such as, I am in pain That no one person can fix

No one person And then Then we have The betrayal And then there is a list of names Okay Lazy, shall we bounce back and forward Yes

Okay I'll go first Because I don't know what the second one is so people who have betrayed Kanye Kim Kardashian Obviously I show speed What's that

I don't know Okay Diddy TY dollar sign What's that Another rapper Oh Harriet Tubman

Which is incredible North West His own daughter Pusher Freddy Gibson Cuddy Cutty. Curious George. As in like kid, cootie?

This must be the adult cootie. Donald Trump. Wait, who's Curious George? I assume the monkey. Where? Pete Davidson. Patrick Starr. LeBron James.

King Von. Playboy Cardi. James Murray. And Adolf. H? It's left ambiguous. Adolf who? Well, listen, I think that's probably one that I can get behind.

I think Adolf betrayed a lot of people. When did this happen? Well, in the 1940s. Oh, my God. So if you've, if you've, listener, if you've betrayed Kanye, and he doesn't know about it. Right to you. Yeah, right in. because we want you to be represented.

I do think that people should write lists of people that have betrayed them. Who would be number one on your list? I'm looking right at her. Yes. Have you ever been betrayed? Betrayed. Yeah. Properly?

No. Betrayed? Yeah. Matt, have you ever been betrayed? I'm trying to think. I definitely feel like I've been betrayed. Yeah. But I can't quite remember who.

It depends on scale. Because, like, small scale betrayals, absolutely. Like, what's a betrayal? Well, like, where you're... It's about trust. And when your trust is... Broken. Broken.

That sucks. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a betrayal to me has to be, like... Intentional. Yeah, you have an understanding, and then you're backstabbed. Can I... They say it just to...

Yeah. Just to get you in the corner. Wait. I'll... Um, the betrayal that, oh, well, is it a betrayal? I don't know. But there is something that sticks in my mind. So I'll say.

Yeah. We. We, as in lazy Susan and Zelda moon, went on a riding retreat once. Mm. To develop drag to the game show. Yes. Back when we were the Bister girls. But B.J. couldn't be there for some reason.

Oh, yes. She had to pull out. Um, betrayal. Her body betrayed us. Yes. But, um, so we like had this weekend. But then my, like, situation ship, uh, came to stay. Yeah.

And when he, I hadn't, he'd been, he'd moved to Sydney. I hadn't seen him in like two or three years. Um, and when, of the afternoon. I was out in the bathroom preparing myself for whatever might happen And Lazy was making dinner for the three of us And then Ben arrived Tried wife, yeah And he

We then like we were staying in like the like room that was like out of the house It was actually this really funny and quite lovely Airbnb that was called the dollhouse And it looked like a tiny little doll house And it had an even small doll house outside That had enough space for one double bed Yes, which that was fine. And so... And we put Zelda in the outhouse just to make sure that, you know, she could do whatever

she needed to be due. If anything happened out there, we wouldn't keep you up all night. But when Ben arrived, we hadn't seen each other in ages, not to make an excuse, but we then, like, I took him into the outhouse room. We, like, set up and then like... The outhouse, like, it's a toilet. Yeah, it's not, but I don't know, the bungalow. And we were out there and we didn't have sex or anything,

but we just, like, had some time of like, oh, I haven't seen you in years and like, it's really nice to see you and blah, blah, blah. And exceptionally rudely, completely did not pay attention to the time. And lazy had been literally making me and my ex fucking dinner. And we just didn't show up for it. And so then we came into the house and you were understandably, oh my God, I completely forgot this.

Pissed off. And you had like, because we were like, we're going to have dinner. And then we were like going to watch movies. Yes. And stuff. Yes, we were going to watch polyester. I don't remember anything that's ever happened in my life. And you had like, by the time, I was like, all right, Ben, we should go like.

We're going to have an apron. Lazy was like, there were two plates cold on the table. And the third plate, you were, like, in your room, door closed. Oh, my God. Hello. And you were like, the food's out. You were so cut. And you were like, well, I've been betrayed.

How long until you were planning on coming in? I was like, oh, God. Like, it was genuinely quite rude because it was kind of like dinner time when he arrived. And I think we were out there for like two hours or something. It wasn't like 20 minutes. So it was like a long time. I must have messaged you. Maybe that was it.

Maybe. And I probably hadn't seen or responded. Yeah. But it was poor form and it was rude. And you were really pissed. I completely forgotten about it. But we like, I mean, funnily enough, we got through it that night. And then we like watched polyester and it was really fun.

But in terms of like genuine betrayals, I feel like I. really fucked up that night and I think about that all the time. I'm sad that you think about that all the time because I've never thought about that again. Yeah, so in answer to your question of which betrayal? You betrayed me? Yeah. For the man who didn't put out. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, listen, just so you know, I don't ever think about that. So I wouldn't worry. Oh, good. But now that I've been reminded. Hang it over me. It's fine. I wonder what I made that man. Do you think that Adolf, is it, Adolf, do you think he did something similar to Kanye?

Is that what he's upset about? Well, because he puts swastikas on his brand. Maybe the neo-Nazis or like Adolf living down, you know, in Cuba, came back to him and was like, sorry, my copyright lawyers are going to get in touch because we really think you're spoiling the brand here. I just like, swastikas on the brand? Yes. Yes. What's the fuck?

He's like, this. The thing about Kanye, though, that makes it, like, so fucked is that, like, similar to the seizure man, like, it's like... Did you say that someone wrote in... That they'd been seizure man, too, yes, yes. It's like, you're obviously just so mentally ill that, like, while the things you're doing are incredibly hateful, I don't think that you're necessarily in a space where you can be held accountable or wait like i don't think you're you're you're not coming to us live from

this dimension yeah you're like clearly unwell it's a big cry for help yeah and it's been going on so long now yeah that it's like oh it makes me uncomfortable it makes me sad that you like are not being in any way like where's stopped from kind of acting out in this way that's like yeah demented to be so publicly crazy suggest that your support network is failing you. Yes. And I think like obviously this is documentary that's just come out with Kanye, um, where you can see some of his like behavior while he was with Kim Kay and he's like screaming at Chris Jenner. Um, um, just saying that he doesn't feel supported or whatever. And she's like, we do love you. We love you so much. And like, obviously

really trying, but it's like, I can't, if this is what we're getting publicly, I don't even want to fucking know what messiness is happening behind the scenes and it's ugly and it's ugly

and to put your own daughter on this list North West is crazy like what and I mean that yeah

that's unwell so who do you think the rest of these people are well Harriet Tubman obviously she's the the freedom fighter who

you know ran the underground railroad freeing slaves from the south which I know we talked a bit about Bob the drag queen's book which is kind of like a magical realist telling of what if Harriet Tubman came back to life

and there's some good stuff in there about her what a crazy life she lived but I don't know how she wronged Kanye. Do you think Patrick Star, is Patrick Star like the Starfish? Or the SpongeBob or the makeup influencer. Right? I genuinely don't know.

I mean. And also I can't imagine what the makeup one has to do with Kanye. A flashback. Like, I think Diddy's probably someone you can go after, right? Yeah. After all the things that he's done. Yeah. Kim Kardashian, I mean, I just, I don't know how to feel about that woman.

Like, I feel bad for her when this sort of shit happens. Yeah. She's at the top of the list. Donald Trump, betrayed. Yeah. LeBron. LeBron, yeah. Is LeBron?

He's a football player. Is it basketball? Basketball. Wait, like the, is that the one that's always? in the Futurama episodes? No. That's Magic Johnson, isn't it? Yeah, I don't know.

Pete Davidson. Obviously. Yeah, for obvious reasons. I mean, like, my temptation is to put Northwest in there just to be like, come on, we're going to keep you safe. Yeah. Let me look up Northwest. I think, like, Northwest, yeah.

Oh, I see. Oh, well, I mean, at the moment, they're innocent. Right? Yeah. Wait, what's this? Paul Patrol, the mighty movie. They're a voice actor in a hideous movie. They're not innocent at all.

They're encouraging the poor patrol. I can't believe that they're only 12. That's crazy. Oh, that's actually so cute. That's cute. Yeah. This is his second list as well. He's already had another list.

Oh, my God. I mean, like, I do love putting out a list. incredible I think that this child we could save a child famously North West did that and I just can't wait to be king at the Lion King live show thing

that they did in LA and they were not I would say on key they were out of key yeah they were in and out of key Yeah And they didn't quite make it

It was cute It was well yeah But um Yeah So I think let's get them to open for Beyonce At the Super Bowl that we have every so often in the bunker Doing And I just can't wait

To be making Huh Um I mean it could be done Let's do it Yeah Okay lock her in I like that

Well we're not gonna have eight off Ah no yeah there's not many on the there's not many on that list that I'm like oh yeah took him in yeah um um mostly because i don't know him most of them are um well listen you're not like you're like south south coast fm mm we wouldn't have this on during the daytime in the radio where would we have rap one of the world's most famous music genres represented on our music uh radio yeah nah i don't know about that one yeah all right well northwest what a great episode so This week.

Metal. We have a Damascus kitchen knife. Damascus. We've got Northwest, Damascus, and... And my tufting gun, specifically. Yes. Oh, good week. That's good.

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