Death To Everyone - Death To... Drag Race Controversies, Bumper Stickers & Drag Race Alum Music Songs
Episode Date: July 29, 2025HOLA Listener, A bit of a drag race themed episode this week! We are experts after all. Enjoy Follow us, won't you? www.patreon.com/deathtoeveryone... www.instagram.com/deathtoeveryonepod www.instagram.com/mslazysusan www.instagram.com/zeldamoon Death To Everyone is recorded at Natural Habitat Studios by Matt Sheers. www.naturalhabitatstudios.com Our theme and music was provided by Edie Centric and Angus Leslie. www.instagram.com/ediecentric www.instagram.com/pir_ingi103
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C'mere!
C'mere!
Hey!
Aaaaaah!
You're gonna die!
Aaaaaah!
Ooooooh!
Ooooooh!
Thank you everyone!
Thank you everyone!
It's supposed to be you!
Aaaaaah!
Aaaaaah! I'm going to show you Oh Oh
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Hi. It's now time for another show!
Hello, Miss
Hey!
Pig. Miss Little Pigbottom.
Miss Pig
and I'm Zelda Moon.
And this is our show.
Death to everyone.
Oh.
Oh.
I'm Lacey Susan.
Hey, I'm Zelda Moon.
Did you see that pig bitch that just walked out of here?
I did see that too.
What did you say about me?
Hi-ya!
Hi-ya!
And this is a show about the end of the world.
Yes.
Oh, who was that?
Giggling.
Giggling, gutsy, driving the car.
Introduce yourself.
I'm Maddie.
Oh, Maddie.
Hello.
Maddie's your new name.
Maddie.
Did you ever go by Maddie?
Yeah.
Always mad about something.
He's the Maddie.
So mad.
Oh, Hulk smash.
Do you think you have the capacity if you are acting in something
to like go angry, like really blow up?
I'm furious.
No, Matt, you do not have to come in.
I am so angry at you.
Seriously.
Like if you were in August, Osage County as the Julia Roberts role
or as Meryl Streep and you had to be like,
Yeah, get out of here, you piece of shit.
Oh my God, I really just hurt my throat.
Oh my God.
I'm going to herniate.
Um, that was good.
Say it again.
Do it again.
We should all do a line read.
You go first.
Okay.
Let me see if I can pull out an August Osage County line.
Okay.
Karen shame on you.
Don't you know we're supposed to say cowboys and Indians? You played
cowboys and Native Americans, right Bob?
That was quite good.
I mean, I don't think I seemed angry. I think I seemed like I was playing a role in a movie.
Yes.
Which I think is the difference.
Yeah.
There's a difference.
Okay, I've got mine. Are we breaking shit now, huh?
I can break shit.
Hey, see everyone can break some shit.
Matt, you do yours.
Okay.
What was that one about? The fish.
There's one about fish.
Eat the fish, bitch.
Oh, I love that line when Julia wrote, eat the fish, bitch.
What movie is this? That line when Julia wrote, eat the fish, bitch.
What movie is this?
It's based off a Tony award winning play called Augusto Siege County, which is about a family coming back to the family homestead, um, in
Augusto Siege County and, um, they, it's, their mother is threatening to die,
but there's lots of family secrets that come boiling up as they return home.
Threatening to die?
Yeah, she's like a real, she's a battle axe of a lady.
What, like, if you don't do the dishes, I'll kill myself.
Have you ever met a mother?
Um, yeah.
Amazing.
Well, that was pretty good.
I don't think I can, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh.
I don't know where you found those great lines.
Did I ever tell you the story of Raymond Qualls?
Not much of a story to it.
Boy, I had a crush on him when I was 13 or so.
Rough looking boy, beat up Levi's messy hair,
terrible underbite, but he had these beautiful cowboy boots,
shiny chocolate leather.
He was so proud of those boots.
You could tell.
We strut around, all arms and elbows puffed up
in cocksure. I decided I needed to get my girly pair of the same boots. And I convinced myself
he'd ask me to go steady. He'd see me in those boots and he'd say, now there's the gal for me.
I found those boots in a window of downtown and just went crazy praying for those boots, rehearsing
the conversation I'd have with Raymond when he saw me in the boots. I must have asked my mama a hundred times if I could get those
boots.
What do you want for Christmas, Vi? Mama, I'll go all of it up just for those boots.
Bargaining, you know? She started dropping hints about package under the tree. She'd
wrapped it up nice, about the size of a big boot box. Nice
wrapping paper too. Now, Vi, don't you cheat and look under before Christmas morning. Little
smile on her face. Christmas morning, I was up like a shot boy under the tree, tearing
open that box and there was a pair of boots all right. Men's work boots holes in the toes chewed up laces caked in mud and dogshit
Lord Lord my mama laughed for days
That's just the plot of fucking
What's that John Waters film?
And where my chacha heels oh my god
That's great. Thank you. Oh wow
I have one more uh-huh now wow. I have one more.
Now again, I have no idea what this is or the context.
So I'm just gonna give it my best shot.
Okay.
Okay, you give me a vibe.
Your vibe is your agitated, stuck in traffic
and your child is sat next to you in the child seat.
Ooh, okay.
It's hot, it's very hot there.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's traffic sounds.
I told you nothing slips by me.
That's good. You got the part.
Oh, thank you.
And what is the show about?
Um, so this is our show where we-
No, wrong.
It's about a family that returns.
Sorry, go on.
Um, so this is our weekly podcast where we talk about a range of fabulous topics.
Sometimes we do line readings.
Sometimes we-
Well, as Mistress Isabel Brooks calls it, we play scenes.
We do scenes.
Yes. I know. Oh my god, too true.
Yes, and we have established a rich doomsday bunker filled with delights
that we have plucked from their respective topics, which we have discussed and will continue to do so.
So this week, listener, we'll discuss three new topics and put three new things in our bunker to save them from the end of the world.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
How are you, Matt?
I'm getting cold as well. It sounds like you're a bit snuffly.
Maybe we should put what medicine goes in.
Have we done a medicine yet? I don't think so.
Well, we did, what was it?
Anthrax?
Mama's favourite medicine.
It's a cure-all.
Nothing else will get you again.
Oh.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just the winter colds.
You know, I think it's-
Sniffly, scratchy throat.
The body can tell when we're transitioning into spring.
Yes.
And it just starts getting that new kind of sick.
You know what else can tell?
What?
My camellias.
They've all bloomed this week.
They're fucking amazing.
Is it early?
I feel like it's quite early.
It was cold this week.
Yeah.
Now actually you're writing, like your Broadway Tony Award winning play, The Camellias Bloomed
This Week.
It seemed earlier to me, but they bloomed anyhow.
So beautiful, but it's so cold.
If only I knew it would be the last time I saw them bloom.
I haven't seen camellias bloom this early. But they're so good.
And all my little snapdragons are still flowering.
And the snapdragons are blooming early too.
Well, our house is dead.
Nothing's seen growing.
I don't like to have the reminder of maintenance.
The soil's been soured.
Sterile environment.
We had the soil tested but a few years ago and it turns out it's rife with lead from
the tanneries and the paint back in the day.
We used to blast lead right into the air.
Now you can't find it anywhere, but I still feel lead crazy.
Well, I know one spot you can find it.
What?
You're back yet.
Oh, I'm eating dirt.
Eating dirt, it tastes so sour but it makes everything go down a tree.
Eat up darling.
Makes them voices to go away.
That's right.
They used to say you go mad as a hatter because all the lead and mercury when you're making hats.
I don't even wear hats. My head's too big, you see.
But how beautiful are the geraniums?
Okay. Okay. Now we said this would be a quickie because you're both sicky.
See, I've been doing bingo. Everything's right. I could do Kida Mitsu from one snatch game.
Oh, Rue! That's Dr. Seuss! And what's the use? Because I don't want to lose.
That's good. Is that what you thought though? That's quality. That's some quality entertainment.
Okay. So... How are are you sister? I'm good
Yeah, I friggin woke up on Friday
With a cold. No swearing on the pod. I couldn't believe it. I said friggin. Oh saying it again
Two in the swear jar. How much did you love on fast gape when they would say frayel?
What they would say frayel instead of fuck. Oh, I didn't watch Fast Game.
What?
You didn't see Chiana with that cunty bob?
Cunty ass bob, sorry Chiana, I don't know you.
You do, you do.
I've never met a Chiana.
I've shown you her before.
But I do know when they cursed on Firefly
and it was always in Mandarin.
True.
And that was a similar experience.
Look at this.
Look at this hairstyle.
Lister, I know you know.
Matt, do you know what I'm talking about?
Yeah.
My listener, listener.
Matt's a fucking crazy like you.
Sorry, feeling crazy.
I've never seen this crazy woman.
Really?
She looks like Detox going to the season six,
no, season five premiere.
She does.
In full black and white makeup.
And she's clearly been airbrushed to kind of give shadow
to her incredible decolletage.
Yes.
And her roots are also airbrushed
in a spiky little bomb.
She looks like the android from-
She looks like.
You'll look like the android from Blade Runner going to a quinceañera.
Um, yeah, wait, what was I talking about?
Bring back mean judges is what you're trying to say.
Is that what you think?
What?
Bring back Michael Kors.
Oh, obviously.
Yeah.
She looks like.
No, but what I was going to say-
No woman in America wants to look like she has a bigger ass.
Uh, what's the vampire quote?
What?
He says something about vampires?
I don't know.
Anyway.
She looks like Count Cunchella.
I hate it.
He would never say cunt.
No, he would never.
They always had to talk around things like that.
Yeah.
I wonder if-
Michael Kors?
Yeah.
Did you like his replacement on Project Runway? Um, but Zach Posen. Yeah. I wonder if Michael Kors. Yeah. Did you like his replacement on
Project Runway? Um, but Zach Posen. Yeah. I mean, Zach Posen is very handsome. Handsome.
Yes. That? What? I did not pick that as your type. Oh my God. He's so handsome. Curly hair,
big nose, tired eyes. I mean, he is handsome. I guess I've just kind of his personality really took over.
Yeah.
He's fucking unbearable.
Rancid.
He's so awful.
He really is so handsome.
Yes.
How have I never noticed?
So he's like gorgeous.
Oh my God.
He fucking sucks.
I don't like him.
He is the worst person.
He is actually such a revolting human being that I never noticed that he is a fucking
like smoke show.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Did he make that dress?
That's hideous.
Oh my God.
Actually, I did want to talk about, not that I have too much to say, but like the Robert,
is it Robin Woon?
Runway? Oh, yes. but like the Robert, is it Robin Woon runway?
Oh yes.
Listener, this, I feel like people,
oh, I don't know, if you know, you know,
but I really, my brain isn't functioning enough
to go into detail, but watch that runway.
I'm gonna post it to the discord.
It's incredible.
Do you know though, before you'd sent it to me,
I'd already received it from one Miss Passion Couture.
And she was like, bitch, we're doing these.
They're that purple one is so amazing.
So for the listener, if you don't know this runway, I had,
this designer is not on my radar.
I'm pretty sure they'd done some other things.
Robert won?
Yeah, recently.
Didn't he do the, didn't he do the runway that was all the red?
He is a Hong Kong born London based fashion designer,
known for avant-garde storytelling designs
that blend originality, extravagance,
and a cinematic influence.
Yeah, I do not know this man, sorry to this man,
but these designs were just incredible.
One was like a full gown with very like artfully done
stoned blood stains on it.
But the real show stopper, pay attention Irene the alien, were these fake arms
that looked like the models real arms, but they were kind of across their
shoulders and they were molded in such a way that they would like be holding up a
veil or holding a specific pose.
And then their real arms were in dark black gloves like velvet gloves so
as not to like so you couldn't see them oh and he did do that red one with the the the model
walking in a red dress and then there was like a fully red yes being behind her slipping off the
dress yes which i didn't like as much it looked a bit more like Sesame Street. Did he do the Elphaba one?
So if you can find.
At any rate, incredible. So so amazing. Go and watch that whole runway.
Just like I it goes for like 18 minutes.
Yeah, I watched the entire thing without looking away.
I was like crying by the end of it.
Yeah, it was just like beautiful. It was
so beautiful.
It is exciting when you have that reminder.
Yeah.
For a good...
And like the theatrics of it.
Yeah.
Like I used to watch a lot more runway.
Fashion TV.
Yeah. Yeah.
I love that.
But oh, when one really lands, it's like, oh, it's so exciting.
Okay, so on Friday, I woke up with a cold. Yeah.
Very annoying.
I'm about to, well, I'm three days into a very busy period at work.
So it's like, oh, it's bloody brilliant, but that's all right.
But I woke up on Friday and I said to myself, okay, so I'm seeing Fantastic Four this weekend
with my friend Liv.
Did you see it?
But she had to...
We had to push her back to Monday night.
And listener, this comes out on Tuesday, as you're aware, and Liv usually listens, I think.
So Liv, when you listen to this, know that I was faking it last night.
I saw it on Friday morning. Oh my God. Okay. So I got up and I was sick and I was like, okay, I don't start
work till like two or three. Why don't I just go to the movies? That's so lovely. It was so fun. I
like woke up at, like I got out of bed at nine. nine. I was in the cinema by 10 o'clock for my first session of the day.
So full.
No.
Was there people?
Yeah.
Okay.
So when I booked online, I was the only person I was like, Oh,
that would just be the dream.
Yeah.
That's your house now.
Yes.
Squad of friends.
Got to the cinema and the roller doors. let me tell you, two enormous roller doors.
I went to the cinema at High Point.
One of them was still down and then the other one had been opened maybe like one and a half
meters.
So like not tall enough for me to get under.
A child, good.
Couldn't possibly squat under a one and a half meter opening.
If they wanted me to go in, they would have opened the door.
Vampire.
But I'm there.
I'm there looking, and I'm like, oh, well,
seems there's other people there.
And you can tell the kind of people
that go to see these Marvel movies.
I knew I wouldn't be alone.
These are your brethren.
Yes.
And sell them down the river.
Well, can't help but observe them.
Um, one of the big mistakes.
Yes.
Um, and then we're getting closer and closer to 10 o'clock.
And I'm like, okay, well, the session does start at 10.
They're starting to get my beverage and popcorn.
So, you know, who's going to open the door the rest of the way.
And then people just started to duck under and go in.
Which is so rude.
They were not open yet.
Oh, like what?
And then I could see through the grill of the roller door, the stuff being
quite perturbed and being like,
Well, if they didn't want people to come in, they should have left the door closed.
Correct.
Correct. But there was a pushy. and being like well if they didn't want people to come in they should have left the door closed correct correct but they're gonna start like well i mean they will start to film without you
but like it's gonna be okay like okay it will be so anyway get in um get my little bits and i was
in the line for both the popcorn because when i I arrived, there was no popcorn to be seen.
And I said, well, surely they start the machine at 9.45,
ready for the 10 o'clock session.
What is going on?
The lines of people wanting popcorn at 10 in the morning.
Well, I was like, what a disgusting combination
at 10 o'clock in the morning.
But it's the similar experience, so you can't really argue with that. But I was in the popcorn, but you know, it's the similar experience. So I, you can't really argue with that.
But, um, I was like in the popcorn line behind this guy who was obviously there by himself semi discreetly as I was. Um, like you're going into a porno. Yeah. Yeah. I don't
want my family to know. One that I've seen this this, and for two, that I'm seeing it alone.
I think that's the best way to see a Marvel movie,
to be honest.
Oh, because it doesn't affect me.
Well, this was the thing, I was like, oh.
And then we were in the line to pay together,
and then he got his seat and we weren't-
Your jumbo buckets brushed up against each other.
The face of the thing.
And we sadly weren't sitting together.
I thought we were going to begin our new life together.
Wait, was he a cutie patootie?
Oh, he was so hot.
He was so hot wearing fucking tracksuit pants in a cinema.
It was great.
Sweatsanes, Gatorade staining the rim of his shirt.
He was a babe. He was like one of those like, like kind of like gym bro kind of nerd adjacent things.
I feel like that's the only ones I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, so hot. Anyway. Um, and can confirm the film was fantastic.
Yeah.
Amazing.
It was really good.
I think you should go and see it.
I think you should go and see it last night with me and Liv,
if you want.
I don't know what you're doing on Monday night.
Well, maybe.
Maybe I'll think about it.
I do love seeing Liv.
She is fabulous.
She is.
And Kurgan, or any man, everyone can come.
It's actually a great family film.
Well, it is about family.
Yeah.
Chosen family.
Well, kind of.
Space chooses who.
But yeah, just quickly, it was really good.
Now, do you think it moves the rating on where we have Vanessa Kirby?
Yes, which is why I brought it up.
Okay. I'm happy to reassess.
Yeah.
So she was fantastic.
Like she was really engaging and like beautiful and her, as previously discussed,
like, cunty face, she was cunting it up.
Cunting it up.
And what did you think of Fireboy?
Like good.
I think-
Not fantastic.
Not Chris Evans.
I just, he is good.
He's just not as much of a, like, and this isn't him,
but the script isn't as like sleazy in regards to him.
Like he's still a heartthrob and he's still like a, um, a player.
Yeah.
Um, but the film doesn't kind of pigeonhole him as that.
And I think because he, I dunno, isn't as like oozing charisma as like Chris Evans.
You lose a little bit of that spice, which is weird
because in Stranger Things, that's his whole schtick is just being a total babe. Yeah. I don't
know. Without the mullet, he just kind of like gets a bit, I don't know. The mullet was doing a
lot of heavy lifting. It turns out it was, but he was really good. Pedro was fine. I was more worried about Pedro than anyone else.
He was only fine.
I just don't know that he acts. I think he just wears costumes and delivers lines. Like
it's the same. Like I feel like his Game of Thrones character was the only one that was
different from these other iterations.
What about his Wonder Woman 1984 role?
That was something else.
I don't know. I really like him.
He is a winning presence.
I think we are now in the very beginning of, as we were speaking about, the end of Pedro's
like reign.
Well, I now really disagree.
I think this is going to propel all four of them to like,
call status of Marvel.
Like people won't want to reboot with a new Iron Man
and a new Captain America,
because these guys will just carry it.
I think, I mean, like I've been listening to the trades,
you know, talking about what's going on at the moment
And I think when they explained the casting of Fantastic Four they were like they've done it very savvy
they're not making the Robert Downey Jr. mistake again of like or like more of the
Scarlett Johansson mistake of like casting big movie stars. And instead they're casting TV stars in those roles,
which is funny because I don't think about Pedro
as not being a movie star,
but I think this has been his movie star summer.
Yes.
Because he was famous for Game of Thrones,
Mandalorian and Last of Us.
Yeah.
And so it is his transition year.
Yeah.
And Vanessa Kirby is obviously famous from The Crown
and then or something.
Yes. Allegedly.
Oh my God. I was just quickly,
some of the like videos that I've been watching are like,
you know, Pedro from blah, blah, blah,
Vanessa from these things and you're like, sorry.
No one has seen those things.
You can't just make these things up.
Yeah. You can't lie.
Yeah.
And that guy from Stranger Things and then that other guy from The Bear.
The Bear.
Yeah. So it's a big TV cast and they're like,
they're probably now going to be in a position to better bargain their coin tata for the next one.
Yeah.
Although this is what they were saying on the trades is that when they put Robert Downey Jr.
as Iron Man, he was still disgraced Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man, he was still disgraced, Robert Downey Jr. without a career.
Post, you know, rehab, drug troubles,
trouble with the police, et cetera.
And they hadn't negotiated him for the second, the sequel.
And so when it was a success
and he was the like tent pole holding it all up,
they were like, oh fuck.
And he was like, yeah, you're fucked.
Now guess what?
I get all the money for all time.
And he got the most insane deal ever out of Marvel.
Robert.
Yes, he did it.
Well, I'm sure he's made it back for them.
Yeah, oh, a thousand percent.
That's why they're bringing him back, hey?
Yeah.
Interesting.
But yeah, it was really fun.
And that Julia Ghana as, yeah, uh, Shellebell.
She hasn't impressed me yet.
So I'll be, cause I didn't watch Ozark.
I don't have time for that.
I'll just watch Arrested Development again, if I want to see that.
Just one man trying to keep his family together.
That's right.
Exactly.
But with drugs. But with drugs.
But with drugs.
But I did watch Wolfman with her in it and I thought she was absolutely fucking atrocious.
A lot of that was the script. Sorry, Julie.
But yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, but it was very, very fun.
Okay, well, maybe.
And what's your read on how it's going with Superman?
Well, so I haven't seen it.
I am curious to go and see it just to know.
Yeah.
From what I see out there in the world,
it seems relatively well received.
However, I did see,
did I say this to you the other day?
No, I don't know.
That Jurassic World is killing Superman in the box office, which I just thought was really,
really interesting.
And now Fantastic Four is out.
The three of them will kind of have their moment of competing and it will be very interesting
to see which comes out on top.
Will it be new Fantastic Four, new Superman,
or new Jurassic Park?
Yeah.
God fucking kill me.
Your favorites, they're back.
Yeah, so strange.
Yeah, I don't know.
Would you say it's Doctor Strange?
Well, not this time.
I'm sure the time will come where he will, I don't know,
make tea with the thing or something.
Oh my God.
Okay, well, should we kick off with the apocalypse
and then dive in?
Yes.
Okay, the world ends this week.
Yeah.
With Galactus.
Oh, you know Galactus?
Oh, he's an eater of worlds.
Oh my gosh, what?
I don't know.
His world universe ended and he was the only one left.
Wrong.
Does anyone know what happened?
No.
Zach Posen said that.
And then Galactus came on by and came in.
Yeah.
You don't know what's up.
So for the first time ever, we have a gigantic man.
And he eats the world.
You could just... I don't want to give you notes on your apocalypse, but you could flip
it to be Galacta.
Oh, no, no, no.
I think it's significant that we have a bit of male representation.
Jesus.
He could be in drag.
All right.
Yeah, all right.
Galactus, Galactat.
All right, yeah, all right. Galactus, Galactat.
All right.
Now, listener, before we dive in today's incredible episode,
we do have to settle the score.
A few weeks ago, we said it to the public,
you, loyal listener, and occasional other people
that are following the Instagram,
Death to Everyone Pod, please follow us on Instagram.
And we resolved two of our questions, feeling like we hadn't quite answered the question
ourselves, we asked you.
A rare moment of weakness.
Weakness on two fronts, but it was a hard week for us.
It was.
Which collectible?
And we have settled on one.
Yes.
And it turns out we were right.
Pokemon cards, you're in the bunker.
Congratulations.
Thank you to our loyal, incredible listeners.
Especially that Mewtwo one from when you went to see the movie.
Or was it Dragonite?
It was Mew.
Okay, oh.
Yeah.
Ancient Mew.
A full hollow.
Wasn't it? I'm pretty sure I got Dragonite from Rosebud Cinema.
That might have been the next one,
because this Pokemon 2000 had the Mew.
Okay.
I'm in Listen, bitch. I don't want to tell you how to live your life.
Me neither.
Okay. And the, which hieroglyph gets into the bunker. Unfortunately, we were unable to reach
Quorum. We couldn't get a majority vote. So instead we just picked one and Vibe came
through with the best suggestion.
Vibe.
Drag Race Down Under Season 4 runner-up vibe came forward with Apache helicopter.
And I think that she speaks for all of us when I say, wow, that's great.
Oh my God.
So do you want to just do a little explanation?
What's the Apache helicopter?
Well, I feel like we all know that the pyram know that, um, that the pyramids were not built
by slaves, but they were in fact built by aliens, um, that it came here from another
time and that, you know, time itself might be cyclical and it is in hieroglyphs, uh,
the symbol of an Apache helicopter.
Um, and so you can Google it. You know what, I think we're really
experts in this thing looks like that thing and that's why it's perfect. Yeah.
Yeah. So yeah Apache helicopter is in. Mmm excellent. Okay on to the first one. To entry world.
Welcome back, listener.
And Sulangyur.
Sulangyur to you all.
Do you know what?
It bothers me.
I'm just going to say it bothers me.
So I, when Troisavan and Leland were coming for Mardi Gras,
Leland was so lovely, reached out with a little message,
being like, hey, we love your run on the show,
would you like to come and do a little wiggle on stage
when Troy is doing a little pop-up DJ set
at this gay event?
And I was like, I'd love to, I'm actually just not gonna be
in Sydney for Mardi Gras, but you should ask my friend Vibe
because she'd be amazing.
And then, oh, sorry, Connor.
Sorry, Nikita.
Anyway, but then all of that to say, Troy, where was my gorgeous little
message when I won the show?
Oh, why didn't you take time out of Brat Summer to go, I love that lazy Susan, former star of my music video.
Won this thing.
I'm going to bring it up to him.
If I ever see him do at the Oscars.
Yes.
I'm like, Hmm, Diva.
And then I'll go like this and he'll go,
My one week.
A small bummer there.
Um, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why do you think that is?
What do you think would happen?
Not that I would ever suggest violence as the answer, but genuinely.
And I don't think you should do this.
And I'm not saying that.
Yeah.
But if you like punch Trosovana and broke his nose, what would happen?
Like actually what would happen?
Jail.
You would go to jail for breaking his nose?
Probably at least some kind of assault charge.
And it depends where it was was who was prosecuting me.
You were on the red carpet for Fantastic Five.
In America?
Only in America.
No, you were at the Sydney premiere.
If it was in Australia, I think we'd probably end up doing some kind of, I'd do community
service.
But I think he would come down hard on you.
Yeah, yeah.
I think his agents would be like, we can't have this.
Yeah. You can't be breaking Trois-Sylvain's nose.
No.
Lazy.
Don't hit people.
Don't hit our boy.
Yeah.
Because as soon as that you open that door, everyone's going to want to taste.
Do you think it would be different if Matt broke Trois-Sylvain's nose?
Yeah.
Yeah, me too.
Make the fish, bitch.
I'll just pop him.
Yeah.
Whoa.
I think if you said that beforehand, the gays might, some gays would be on
side with you, like they'd be like, we love August Osege County and Julia Roberts.
Um, yeah.
Yeah.
That was just me being angry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You would like me just me being angry. Yeah. Yeah.
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
Anyway.
Wait, what happens if you say, I wasn't expecting that question, except with the Hulk's famous
line.
What?
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
You say it for me.
You wouldn't like me. That's angry. I don't think you got the
essence. Okay. What if I do it as she Hulk? Yeah. Okay. You wouldn't like me.
That's angry. If I was angry, that, that I wasn't expecting that question is like, it's
more like wistful if I was angry.
Nah, you haven't got it.
I saw a TikTok the other day of Tatiana Mislani's, um, CG counterpart in
She-Hog and my blood started to boil.
As I was thinking about all the times you said they, they're,
and I was like, she looks ridiculous. This is actually fucking crazy that they put this on television.
She looks, it looks terrible.
I haven't rewatched, but maybe it looks bad.
Oh my God.
They should have just done her and fucking makeup.
I will get my rupology.
Okay.
Anyway, um, the first category this week is, and it leads into current events
that will now be put into the pantheon of incredible things that have happened
in the Drag Race fandom.
Sorry to our Drag Race non-fans in our listenership.
Do they exist?
They definitely do.
There are people here just because they like the sound of our voices.
But if you haven't heard, Mistress Isabel Brooks,
star of All Stars 10, recently came down hard on one of her public detractors,
Willem Belli, who's the star
of season four of Drag Race, RuPaul's Drag Race, and the very first ever
disqualified contestant from RuPaul's Drag Race. And they have started an
online feud, which brings us to the category of which drag race controversy gets into the bunker?
Yeah.
What do you think about this current state of play?
So MIB released this video.
That is a really direct character assassination.
Yes.
And not a word was studied.
It was said full throat,
keep my name out of your mouth
Yeah, while I'm mock
Every part of your life. Yes. Yeah, and then Willem replies with their own YouTube video
and
Has anything happened since then There's been like strays shot. I was listening to the Race Chase the Pod this morning with Alaska and Willem.
And there was some strays across the bow, just about mistress, but not directly
addressed, which I think, I think, um, Willem's big mistake was to not put it
on her podcast instead of on her personal YouTube.
Yeah. I think it should have on her personal YouTube. Yeah.
I think it should have been a whole episode.
Yeah.
And I think because, you know, she's a podcast mogul.
Yeah.
She is the co-founder of Moguls of Media.
Correct.
The imprint at Forever Dog Productions.
And so they should have absolutely made it a massive thing for their podcast
instead of just a
thing for her YouTube channel, which she doesn't... Oh, she does the beat down.
Yeah, but I would have done the same.
Do it on the part.
That's fun.
It's kind of become a bit of an issue, very World War II, because they're fighting a war
on two fronts because they recently, Willem and Alaska recently, came for Acid Betty by
featuring on their podcast an angry designer who said, alleged that they hadn't been paid
for one of their looks that Acid Betty wore on the recent season of Drag Race.
And they were like, if Acid wants to come and refute these claims, she can come and
do it on the pod.
And then Acid on her own podcast, Petty Betty with Diabetty, refuted the claims
with receipts and explained her side of the story and has since blocked Willem,
Alaska and been really aggressive about them.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
You left out the best bit.
What?
They said that she cast it into the flames on her Instagram and burned the dress.
God damn.
So there's a lot of drama in the drag race world at the moment.
So wait, I didn't know about that.
What did, what did she say?
Asid said that on the time that she received the paper dress,
which was when she was at the airport on the way
to Drag Race All Stars Season 10, it was in a
condition that she would not deem wearable, that it was completely against what she tried
to ask for, that it was just not well done.
And then she paid the original price, but not the subsequent pricing that the person
was asking for, because she said, well, why I had to do all this extra work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Ooh, scandalous.
So as they are now fighting that war on two fronts, what do you think about this?
Like you as a person, what do you think about messy scandals?
I, I mean, like I've absorbed many. As a person, what do you think about messy scandals?
I, I mean, like I've absorbed many, they're tantalizing,
but I'm very much of the ethos of, can't we all just get along?
Yeah.
Like is anything really that serious?
Yeah.
And especially, like it's interesting
because so much of the drag feuds are so petty.
Yeah.
Like if you were saying it, if you were retelling the feud to someone who had never watched drag
race, didn't have gay friends, they'd be like, are you serious?
What happened?
What? What do you like? It's just so unimportant that how could you possibly be mad about this thing
in a genuine way?
But for gay people, this stuff's really important.
So, I mean, I kind of delight in that ridiculousness
of it all.
And yeah, like even just the MIB and Willem stuff,
it's like everyone's taking themselves so,
well, I feel like MIB in particular
is taking themselves very seriously.
And that's why they did this video,
but taking yourself seriously is not something
that we've ever really done to that level.
Like it's so intense.
And I think Willem's response kind of answered
to a lot of those things, but in a way,
to kind of diffused a lot of them
because I don't think Willem actually
maybe takes it as seriously.
I think that Willem is like,
like there are, like it's not all through that lens.
Like I think some things definitely get under his skin and stuff.
Oh, I think, yeah, I don't know.
I think Willem is really affected by this.
Oh, see, I just thought his video, there were several points where Willem was like,
well, you're not wrong.
No, but I think-
I kind of like owned those things and were like, let's move on.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, I thought you would have like fought all of them.
Really aggressively?
Have you ever seen Willem fight?
Hmm.
Like this is, cause people in the comments were like, you better wait.
We're going to show you how a Pittsburgh girl does it or whatever.
And I was like, Willem doesn't fight.
it or whatever. And I was like, Willem doesn't fight. Her genre and her version of cattyness is one that is done in like little stings and then backing away. Like in Untucked,
where she's like, your tone seems very pointed right now, is like she has escalated a situation.
And then when the other person has reacted, she's sitting back and going, why are you acting crazy? And I think that that's her like, because I think Willem, who
I will say has been nothing but kind to me. And he's one of the divas that is actually like,
was like reaching out and saying lovely things. And she seems, I always find her to be very funny
and a key. We inspire them to start a podcast.
Exactly.
We taught them about podcasting.
Yeah.
But, but the, I think Willem as a person and from what, how they describe
themselves is someone that their number one desire is to be liked.
And I think that this kind of thing plays against that really heavily.
And I think Willem kind of comes from a time in the culture, like the early 2000s, where
they were the queen supreme of a classic, Nordy's reality television show.
Sassy, cruel, can get in the jabs, but is not going to stick around and do the fucking
actual beat up.
Yeah, isn't going to be held accountable to those things.
Just drop them and be like, bye.
Move it along.
I didn't mean it.
I just said it for the quick shock reaction.
I don't mean anything.
But the thing that really pisses me off the most about all of this drama, the
petty Betty stuff and the MIB stuff is when people try and draw my girl, Ms.
Alaska Thunderfuck into more bullshit.
No, I know.
Leave her alone.
Yes.
They're like, even like when acid Betty was going off about how, like, how dare
Alaska like platform this voice.
And I'm like, if you look at the way that Alaska was speaking in that conversation,
it was very level headed, very like there will likely be another side to this story.
And I'd love to hear it.
And we're just platforming our friend who is a designer notoriously.
Designers do get fucked over by drag race girlies all the time.
So it's not crazy that when one of our friends tells us something, we're going
to like, listen, hear it out and maybe even try and figure out the situation.
Yeah.
And like, you know, Willem is going to stir the pot, but Alaska isn't the
way that she spoke about this whole thing
was very chill.
So you guys need to just have your drama
and leave Alaska alone.
Yes.
Which brings me to my favorite drag race girl feud,
which is Alaska's song, Wow.
It is such a good feud.
Yeah.
But I think like the journey of watching Alaska across these 15 years or whatever
is just like so interesting because like, and goes with the song and everything
that's happened, right?
Like the biggest fan of the show, one to be on the show from the get-go. Her partner gets on, wins, then she gets on,
everything. Then All Stars 2 is the greatest season ever, all this stuff. She wins that,
but has the tantrum, like all that stuff. Then goes from being the golden child and poster girl
of the franchise, like so solidly loved.
And also the one that was always thrown around
for a replacement to Rue.
Yep, yep.
Like think of like the golden years after her winning
with all of the live finales,
like I would be like, yes, I want to see Alaska
doing all the interviews.
Totally.
She was there like everywhere.
And then, yeah, as time went on,
yeah, all the cracks started to show.
And then we've kind of seen Alaska,
not like, what am I trying to say when a trailer goes from back and forth?
What is that? A trailer on the back of a car? You know, when you're like driving your ute and the
trailer is full of fish tails. Thank you. Um, I was going to say that, but I was like, no, I think
that's just me wanting it to be that. Um, yeah, like she's kind of like fish-tailed through this thing of like
the wow song, but then-
Which if you do not know, Alaska released a song out of drag called wow, which is
just a song about breaking up with a messy ex and maybe it alludes to the name
of a company that she might have worked for at one point and might've been the
winner of one of their shows called world of wonder.
Yeah.
Um, but you know, she never acknowledged the correlation.
She always...
I thought it was just an inversion of mom.
Mom.
Their company.
So like, wow, that's where that came.
They really were.
Yeah.
And like it is that thing of like, yeah, it's just tricky.
Yeah. But then we got global, oh global, whatever. We got all stars, all winners.
It was like, okay, like officially, like, oh, I mean, there's no official blacklist or whatever
in this franchise, but you know, there's the girls that everyone knows they won't work with
whatever. And I don't know that she's ever like, so cooked at to my knowledge that it's
like, we would never work with Alaska again.
Cause even now and then you get a little side clip of her, although we got a side
clip of Delta in an episode recently.
So you just never know who's going to pop up.
But yeah, it's just been interesting when that all winners happened, Alaska
wasn't involved, which like,
she's the only person apart from baby that I would want to have been there.
Yeah.
Um, and now I don't know, she's kind of on like the campaign trail to get on a
future one of just behaving, which I totally understand because like she loves
the show, it would be great for her career.
Anytime on TV is, you know, time not wasted kind of thing. Yeah.
Um, but watching her go so hard from like, yeah, that song doing a whole thing that's so pointed
to then kind of like not, not, uh, you know, like disputing her opinions of the past, but finding a way to be like,
I think we, like, I still want to be part of it.
Yeah.
Reconciling that with all of the fucked up stuff is really interesting to observe.
Yes.
And it's time to send the fruit bouquet.
Yeah.
Like someone, we just, I mean, like Willem is gone.
Like that's never happened.
Never.
Never, never, never, never.
But do you think that Alaska's proximity?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Completely poisoned her against them as well.
Well, it's not, I don't think it's just that alone.
But it's like being in constantly going semi-viral clips of Willem dissing the show.
Yeah. And even Alaska, even if she's sitting there not,
you know, not backing it up or anything,
it just cuts to her, you know what I mean?
It's just a constant thing.
Um, but I don't think it'll be forever.
I think that they have a really good ace up their sleeve
to bust out the inclusion of Alaska
in an all-winners season.
Mm.
And it will be amazing.
It'll be incredible.
It'll have the effect that you would have from having Willem on.
Yes.
Like, yeah.
Yeah.
I just think that it is, you know, a pretty, it's a tight network.
It's still like a family run show in that way.
Like it's the original, like, it's not like Viacom sent in new producers to run the show.
It's still Darren, Fenty, Randy, and like Michelle and Ru.
Like core, core, core.
And so like they have a long memory.
And as a, like, you know, I think if it was just
an executive who was running it, they would be like, bitch, I don't know, I think if it was just an executive who was running it,
they would be like, bitch, I don't care.
I clock off.
Yeah.
Like I don't think about this show when I'm on the summer vacation.
Yeah.
I will put on whoever is going to get us the most ratings.
Yes.
But I think they manage the show particularly like, like with the Emmys of it all.
Like, with the Emmys of it all, I think that they have had to try and now engineer the show around this kind of positive version of the show.
I think there were allowed to be kind of messier things happening when it was like a logo show
and it was kind of a fun, like kitschy parody show. But once it became this like inspiration and politically moving
the needle for queer people, they were like, well, we can't have.
Leaks coming out from on set that say that blank blank
blank is happening or whatever.
So people like Willem became part of an older version of the show, which was fun
and tantalizing
and silly.
You couldn't have, but like as soon as like, yeah, Courtney's calling, you know, some
of Ruth's behaviors transphobic, like it doesn't matter whether she's on the right side of
history or whatever.
They just like, from a PR perspective, don't say that in front of the straight people.
And I think that that's become the ethos of the show.
And I think that, yeah, you don't want to get on the wrong side of that.
Because you're like, if we have to choose between Alaska and winning another Emmy, we're
going to pick an Emmy because that's our careers.
Yes.
Yeah. because that's our careers. Yes, yeah, yeah. You know, so yeah, we spent years trying to claw our way
out of this kind of like side ghetto of, you know,
nothing streaming platform to like, yeah,
come up to the top.
Oh, I wish I had a funny drag race scandal
that Chiara Franchini was involved in, but I just don't.
Well, you can just say her name if you want.
Oh, I love Chiara Franchini.
Now, the other scandals, some of those scandals are just really dark. Obviously, we've got like
Sherry Pye, you know, and that one of the weirdest of the Me Too time, one of the most elaborate Agatha Christie fucking ways of coercing people.
It was like she didn't casting couch someone.
She made a full fake character with a name and set up a fake casting agent and forced
young men to keep auditioning for a fake theatre show
that was fake regionally touring and start taking real steroids.
It was bizarre.
So bizarre.
Like bizarre and fucking twisted and weird.
Yes.
Um, but that whole situation, I mean Robbie Turner's Uber driver dying in a car crash
that she barely survived, then being proven that that Uber drive never existed and no
one had died in a car crash that night in LA.
I mean, when you say it out loud, it sounds crazy.
I think, you know what is funny?
As far as scandals go that are not of a creepy sexual nature, I think Australia's
blackface scandal was actually one of the most significant scandals ever on a drag race.
Yeah.
So Australia did something.
We did something.
We did something. Um, but it was just so anticlimactic in the presentation that we saw on the show. Yeah.
And it didn't match how anyone else would ever react to that.
Yeah.
So it's like this weird kind of gaslighty thing of like,
yeah, that's fine. We'll just move on.
I mean like, okay, but if you're telling the audience that like,
I don't know, it's just so strange. So strange.
Then we have, I mean, Sharon Needle's whole controversy about saying the N word consistently all the
time backstage to all
the other contestants, including the black contestants, doing this whole like Nazi shows
and having like swastikas in this kind of like edgelord, I'm an internet fiend kind of way.
Do you know what though is one of my favorite controversies to come from Drag Race?
When there was on the Reddit message board, Rupaul's Drag Race, there was the controversy
going on, or controversy, when the decision was made to crown both Trinity the Tuck, Taylor and
Monet exchange and fighting, fighting for their life in the comments was this woman,
this just like random Redditor who was saying
that she was a woman of color who was also disabled
and even she believed that Trinity should have won
and that, you know, like how dare anyone like impugn her.
She thinks that Trinity was the correct winner and blah, blah, blah.
And on every thread she was saying all this stuff and her name was SheDevilByNight.
And then a little later, our internet sleuths, through a little bit of tracing,
And later, our internet sleuths, through a little bit of tracing, discovered that perhaps that account belonged to Trinity the Tuck Taylor, defending herself, pretending to be
a black disabled woman.
Oh my God.
Thus validating her claims that she was allowed to, you know, dismiss Monet's existence on
the show and blah blah blah
it was very bizarre. I like that quite a bit what was that username again?
World Mistress by Night. I like that. Oh She-Devil by Night. She-Devil by Night.
Not to be confused by She-Devil, me. Yes she's a she, she-devil shoe So back to Drag Race Italia
One of the judging panel
Judges the Masa Sotsu
Was like controversial and I remember at the time like my few Italian friends being like what?
Because he is gay. I think like one big
Was gay Because he is gay. I think like one big thing was gay.
Yeah, but he has like really cooked views. He's like kind of a right winger in a way.
Um, like has like associations with that cooked prime minister and stuff.
So it was like a weird appointment.
Wow.
But he was out for season three.
So whatever.
Oh, good. Yeah. And he was out for season three, so whatever.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
And then they brought Zach Posen in.
Thankfully not.
Although he's very handsome.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Matt, what's your favorite Drag Race scandal?
All of them.
They're just, I just love it all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I mean, just give me one, just give me one.
That one where that, um, Diva brought in one of those, um, hairless cats.
Oh, remember that?
Who could forget?
Yeah.
And then she squashed it live on stage.
The butterflies. Well, the butterflies.
That butterfly moment.
Butterflies have had a tough run.
Really? What have they done to the butterflies?
From this franchise.
There was a finale.
So they sometimes do a big, huge live finale.
A butterfly?
And for season, I don't know, 12, maybe, who knows, one of the queens that was one
of the three in the finale went to do her.
You mean Miss Asia O'Hara.
Sure.
Uh, did her, it wasn't like a lip sync, was it lip sync battle?
It was lip sync battle.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Was in one of the finale lip sync battles.
And she had these mysterious domes on top of her wrist.
Yes, like a gigantic bubble watch.
Like a gigantic sea monkey bubble watch.
Yes, but no, sea monkeys were inside.
Alas.
But gorgeous butterflies to fly as a symbol of hope and peace into the audience.
These wings were made to fly.
Yeah. But instead the dead butterflies fell to the ground. Well wings were made to fly.
But instead the dead butterflies fell to the ground.
Well, they were not dead.
They were just, they'd been in,
she'd had live butterflies, real living creatures
that she had chilled to slow them down,
you know, and to make sure they didn't flap, flap, flap,
go crazy inside of those little domes.
That dust coating must be protected.
Well, true. And so she was doing the lip sync and when she opened the domes expecting them to fly out,
they instead kind of slapped on the platform on her wrist, looking confused on national television.
Yeah.
And then they were like...
I would be confused.
Yeah, and they were like, what?
And then she starts shaking her wrist and they don't move, they just kind of flop off
her wrist.
And yeah.
It was horrific.
It was really, it was really something.
I mean if butterflies hadn't died, that would probably be my pick.
I kind of think it is my pick.
Yeah.
Like can we put in the, maybe do we put in an archival piece of the bracelets, like the
domed bracelets and put them on a shelf in the library?
Well then we do need to have a little framed like insect pinned butterfly.
Yes.
Yeah.
And it will have the, you know, monarch butterfly 2021 to 2021.
And then in brackets, thanks Asia.
Thanks Asia.
Thank you Asia. What song was it too?
Oh my God, here we go.
Butterfly crime scene on YouTube if anyone wants to.
I've always loved butterflies.
It was definitely not that song.
Oh my god.
She was performing the song Nasty by Janet Jackson.
Yeah, do you know what?
Do you think, do you think if she had, when they fell to the ground,
stomped them and was like, nasty.
Yeah.
So people would have like, been like, well.
It's part of the show.
It's part of the show.
OK, don't give away my show ideas. Yeah. So people would have like, been like, well. It's part of the show. It's part of the show. Okay.
Don't give away my show ideas.
Like throw a living thing down on the ground and I stomp it.
We're like, ah!
I mean, if there was a way where, as we saw from that car driver controversy, the truth
is out there.
Yeah.
But if there was a way where you could like convince the whole world that they were just props.
Yeah.
And that's why you stomped them and that's why they
fell and all of that.
Yeah.
That's the perfect out.
Because also you're destroying the evidence.
True.
But I think you could look at the smear and be like,
either you've just made the most realistic looking
prop in the whole world.
A little motorized butterfly that gives a little wing flap.
Cause they like, the camera zooms in on the butterflies, like walking
along the giant perspex stage, be like,
Oh, like it would be like the equivalent of like releasing a hostage during your
lip sync number and they
just like run around on stage in a day's blind state like, help me.
I grew that child from the ages of three to 25 and I just released it from the bunker.
We also have the technology, you know when you get those gift boxes and you take the
lid off and a bunch of those little twisty, twisty woo butterflies.
Yes.
She could have just done that.
I mean, but not the same really.
Drums.
Going to wind them up.
Yeah.
She can't do that with nails on.
So I understand the difference.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's fair enough.
I think we put that in.
Okay.
That's funny.
And that's good because it's not crazy, but I do need to know what Sherry Pye...
Okay, so for those of you who don't know, what I explained about the Sherry Pye, she
pretended to be a talent management casting lady and made this whole fake persona to convince
actors she knew from her acting course.
If we can find light in any of this. The weirdness of the fake name, Alison Mossy.
Oh, that's right.
Oh my God.
My, yeah.
Oh, that's good.
No.
Oh, Alison and I went through an email thread that lasted over 150 emails in about three
weeks.
Oh.
We covered topics of pay, living situations in the city, when I would have to leave school
for rehearsal, and conversations about acting choices for the character.
I had to film scenes that felt particularly sexual and awkward, but the opportunity seemed
too good to let the overt sexual nature of or my inhibitions get in the way. I simply told myself that my parents
wouldn't be allowed to see the show, but I wanted the professional experience and
the bright and shiny object on my resume. The specific video submissions I sent
were of me taking steroids and immediately growing larger muscles and
gaining physical power. The character, Jeff, talked about how much his armpits
began to stink and how much he liked that.
Eat the fish, bitch!
Oh my God.
I just, that is twisted.
It's very.
Gay, like, I don't want to say this,
but I do have to say it.
You know, sometimes straight men in their behavior towards women
when they're being sexually inappropriate can feel so stupid,
like that you're like actually shocked.
They're like, I just, you know, she was there and then I reached out and touched her teeth.
You know, and you're like, this is deplorable behavior, but so, so stupid.
And then gay men just have to take it in the John Wayne Gacy kind of way.
Whereas like, why do they have to be that elaborate?
Why'd you have to set up Alison Mossy?
You had to bring in a fake woman, make a whole elaborate lie of email chains and coercion. Diva, what the
fuck?
Don't bring Alison into this.
Don't make Alison do this.
You could have created a great life and instead this.
Alison could have been sharing the joy of casting with the world instead of forcing
... And also just why do you have to write a script
where it's like, oh my armpits smell so good today. You're fucking weirdo. Yeah. God damn.
Well, butterfly bubble bracelets and a little taxidermied butterfly. Amazing. From the grave,
taxidermy. Dear listener.
Okay, now let's move on.
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Hello.
So I got fucked in the pop mask.
You got what?
You did?
Yes!
I just remembered.
Well, this is probably the right depth into the episode that we would have scared off
anyone else.
What?
Um, last night.
By whom?
I don't know, some guy.
Yeah!
Was he into it?
I think.
Wait, did he want that or do you like... He...
In his mind, are you now a pup?
No.
It's safe to confirm, no.
So you'll put on a pup mask but you won't come in drag to the Madeas?
Only in 2025.
Next year I'm going to do more drag than anybody else at the Medea.
Impossible.
You'd be in a pop mask.
Um, my God.
No, we had been talking for a few days and he-
Talked you into it?
Came over last night.
How did it come up?
I think he was talking about like
restraints and stuff. Like I think he asked like have you ever been tied to
the bed? Yeah. I was like well obviously yes. I don't even know how you tie someone to your bed.
Not to my bed, but to a bed. He was like oh yeah. I was like but like, I don't know about that.
You're not going to tie me to the bed. I was like how could like, hold, like, I don't know about,
you're not going to tie me to the bed. I was like, how could he? It's impossible.
Not that bad. Um, so maybe that's how it came up.
Maybe it's asking like gay people love to be like, what kinks you into?
It's like, I always feel so like, I don't, I don't know. Is sex,
is that a kink? I love sex. I mean, that's,
I'm like also just like, I don't, I don't know.
I'm like, don't ask.
Just like hit me with, not like how lazy would he get Troy Savant.
But, um, like if you're into something, just try it out.
And I think that's what we were doing last night.
So I said, yeah, I was like, well, I actually, well, my friend was moving overseas and he
gave me this pop mask.
I was like, that's a kink.
We could try that.
He was like, yeah, let's do it.
And then that was that.
Yeah.
And he came over and we were maybe like halfway through and he was like, so have you got the hood?
And I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I went and got it.
Did you say it like that?
I think I did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What?
Oh, sorry.
Wow.
Sorry, I said it in the wrong way.
Well, there was, oh my God, I was actually so cursed
because like he was very, it was a big mark.
Yeah.
They're a big boy.
Yeah.
Um, big dog.
Oh my God.
But there was a point where, so then, okay.
So then he was like, so you're going to like, have you got it?
It was like, oh yeah.
So I went, I like got up and then I like went and got it. And he was like, so you're going to like, have you got it? I was like, oh yeah. So I went,
I like got up and then I like went and got it and he was like, oh cool. And he was like,
does it fit? And I was like, oh my God, what are you saying?
Pup shaming me?
About the size of my skull. Like, I was like, I wouldn't have suggested it if I did.
You'd pull out his tie to run.
Tiny little mask.
Little chihuahua.
Yeah. And then I was like, so I put it on.
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so then I put it on and I, yeah, I don't know.
I didn't like, I didn't hate the experience,
but I won't be rushing back to it.
The mask is just the, the invitation, you know, it The mask is just the invitation, you know?
It's the gesture to the theatrical, you know?
It's a Brechtian piece, but you do need to imbue it with
like the transformation of your whole character.
Yes, which that I don't think I embodied.
You didn't give pup behavior.
No, I wasn't like crawling around on all fours.
Sorry, bitch, then what were you doing?
Well, I was on all fours getting fucked.
Yeah, but then what's the point of the-
It's called doggy style.
Well, right.
Look it up.
Right?
Yeah.
So that, I mean, that is my takeaway.
Did he go into like, where at the pup?
Absolutely not.
That, like, cause he, I don't think had any experience and I didn't have any experience.
It sounded like there was very much world building going on.
Yeah.
No, that's what it lacked.
So halfway through the pop part, I was like, I realised that I was still responding in
English.
Well, maybe he's a Dr.
Dolittle type.
Yeah, well, maybe.
Or Shaggy and Scooby.
Yes.
But I did have a moment where I was like, wait, is this killing the illusion?
Should I stop talking?
But then I was like, that I am so explicitly not into.
Like the, because I was recently very turned off the pop mask.
I actually forgot about it.
When I realized I wouldn't get any lies.
No, because I saw someone, I don't think it was even on Grindr, I think it was just on
Twitter or whatever, but this pup who then has all these photos of them getting fucked
in a harness and wearing a pup mask or whatever, getting pissed on at a party or something.
But then they have a pet dog and they have all these photos of them
like wearing their pop mask and like cuddling with the dog, like on the bed or like on the
couch. It was like, Oh no, no, no, no, no.
Not a real dog.
No. Right? So it's like, I don't think this is a world that I want to enter. But then
I did because I forgot about it. Now that I've, cause I forgot about it. Um, now that I've remembered I'm horrified.
Um, but yeah, that I think puts me off, you know, talking like this.
Because I think any other talk like that.
I think you had the mask on, but you didn't commit.
So you haven't done it yet.
I didn't, but I found it quite uncomfortable.
Oh my God. Because it yet. I didn't. But I found it quite uncomfortable. Oh my God.
Because it was squeezing your gigantic skull.
It was just really like warm.
It was very warm.
I'm warm.
And like my little mullet was like poking out
and I felt like Carol Brady
because I could tell that the little girl
was like flipping out from underneath.
Like, can you see that?
Yeah. Yeah. So that was happening and it's like. Like, can you see that? Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was happening and it's like, is that hot?
I don't know.
Well, if he wasn't doing anything new.
He was not.
He was not. He wasn't changing to dog owner.
No.
And that makes me think he's not ready to be a dog owner.
It's true.
Um,
Take you for walkies.
Not just for Christmas.
Yeah, it's forever. Because yeah, to me, like it should at least have like a dog owner. It's true. Um, take you for walkies. Not just for Christmas. Yeah, it's forever.
Because yeah, to me, like it should at least have like a little walk.
There was no walking.
No, because we also only did it in the bed.
Which what, your bed?
Yeah.
Well, how was he even thinking of tying you to that bed?
Which bed?
The dog bed?
I mean, like we didn't like, we weren't like, we'd already had sex in the lounge
room, so like we'd already moved to the bed, but if the mask had come out in the lounge room,
maybe there's a world.
Where there was a walk.
Like a dog walk to the bedroom.
Yeah, that to me is the point.
That is the point.
I don't know.
It's not about the mask at all.
It's got to be about the submissiveness.
Sounds like you're not very trained very well.
I have no training.
You need to go to puppy school.
Why don't like, why doesn't Eagle Luther have like, pop school?
They probably do.
They probably do.
But I would love to get in on the ground level of like setting that day up.
Right?
Just the aesthetics of it.
And you get a little certificate.
Love a keepsake.
Do you want to run through those poles?
We're doing this.
Yeah, we're doing this.
Yeah.
Up the ramp.
You know that little ramp they go over?
Yeah.
Who's going to win Best in Show?
Oh my God.
And the inspection.
Oh God.
We need to run this.
Yeah.
I'm sure it's already happening.
I'm sorry if this is, we're stepping into our territory, but we're running a pop school.
Yeah.
As, as you've just heard over the past five minutes, we're overqualified at this point.
Well, do you know, I was listening to the other day after the release of EL James's
50 Shades of Grey, bestseller, titanium hit, there was a 50% rise in emergency room visits related to BDSM in the UK.
They hadn't gone to pop school.
They hadn't because a bunch of, you know, middle-aged moms suddenly had this new
curiosity about the world of BDSM, but the book itself didn't really offer any of the traditional, you know, safeguards that the BDSM community prides itself on,
knowing exactly how to conduct yourself safely while in a, you know, flogging,
whipping kind of situation. Choking, tying. So a bunch of these like, all right,
Bernays, shall we get in the bed? Okay, I'm going to fucking flog you in the ass.
You know, potato people in England was suddenly ending up in the emergency room.
Bernays is not breathing.
You know, because of EL James.
Yeah.
And what did he say in response?
She.
Oh, sure.
Yeah. Well, she did. in response? She. Oh, sure. How dare you.
Yeah, well, she did.
I don't think she said her name.
What's her name?
E.L. James.
Well, it's her like, pen name.
What's E?
I think it's Erica.
Cool.
But at any rate, I was listening to someone talk about the production of the film, Fifty
Shades of Grey with Jamie Dornan and Dakota Johnson.
Jamie Dornan is so hot.
But they were like, they gave E.L. James this, you know, 40 something lady from the UK who wrote that Twilight
fan fiction that got turned into 50 Shades of Grey.
Oh my God.
Literally.
They had to change the names from Edward Cullen to...
Oh my God. Jamie Jordan.
Jamie Jordan.
But she was on set and she had been given by the producers in order to get to produce
her massively successful book.
She got complete creative control over every creative decision.
This woman who had no background in filmmaking.
Oh no, I think... No, she might've been a producer
of something, but not in filmmaking.
Yeah.
And she, like every decision was micromanaged by her.
She said they couldn't change a single line of dialogue
that she had in the original book.
Oh, why?
Throughout the whole script.
Then she picked all the clothes that young Dakota Johnson was wearing
and they would look insane. They're like, in the script, it says gray chiffon dress.
And they're like, but that's crazy. And then she was like, the fans want the gray chiffon dress
because that's what Anastasia wears in the book.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's cool.
So yeah, she destroyed their lives and then fired the director after, in the
second one, good new director, new producer.
But they allowed her to have the same creative control.
Yes.
They didn't learn.
No.
At pop school.
Well, the film came out and made shit tons of money.
Yeah. Well, she's came out and made shit tons of money. Yeah.
Well, she's a genius.
She's correct.
Once again, listen to women.
Okay, but the final part of the horrific pop story is, yes, that I was, I don't know,
we were a couple of minutes in and I was like, so, like, well, I'll leave it on. He's like, yeah, yeah. So that's what I say in defense to your scrutiny. Maybe I wasn't,
but he was having a great time. I think he was having a better time with it than I was.
He was learning.
Yeah. When I took it off, he was, well.
He's like, Oh God, there's a giant melon head again.
He was, well. He's like, Oh God, there's a giant melon head again.
The bubble head's back in the room.
Actually, wait, I just thought about how that made me sound.
Leave it on.
Leave it on.
But beforehand, like before we were still chatting, like online, I'd like, and we talked
about the hood.
He was like, Oh, but it seems like a shame to cover your cute face.
I was like, Oh, but it seems like a shame to cover your cute face.
I was like, Oh, that's cute.
But then in the moment it was like, keep it on.
But then also when I took it off, cause it's like neoprene, I felt like I'd
been in a surf and like it was all sweaty inside and I don't know.
Yeah.
Needs more ventilation.
Well, do you know, I think you should start with the performance.
Yeah.
And then you decide how much of, you know, rocky you want to add.
Yeah.
Like, just the ears perhaps.
I don't know.
Is it non-verbal?
I think it's got to be non-verbal, like with panting and, and popping.
You can make noises.
Like just dog noises.
You have to be bass.
You have to be robbed of your humanity.
Yeah.
And you have to hand over care of yourself to someone else.
He wasn't ready for that.
No.
No.
And neither was I.
But what a fabulous segue to our next topic for discussion, which is which bumper sticker
of the car that we saw when we were driving here gets into the bunker.
We were delighted to be driving behind a white Camry.
Yes.
And they had...
It was a Mazda 3.
Oh.
As if I know that, because it's in the photo that I took.
Well, we did take a photo of this person.
Now, read their number plate.
No, no, no, no.
No.
But no, we got a collection of bumper stickers
on the back of this person's car.
Yes.
And they did capture our attention.
And so now, we will once again regale you
with something that is purely visual.
Yes.
So, we'll go one by one lazy, and I think no order,
because as I said at the time,
these are displayed in a delightfully organic way.
There is no contrived control over the placement of these bumper
stickers. As they've been acquired, they've been applied. And I like that.
So-
Slapped on the back of the-
Yeah.
On the Mazda3.
Yeah. I'm going to start with-
I haven't seen Mazda1 and 2.
I'm waiting for Mazda4. So I'm going to start with the lo-fi sticker.
What is lo-fi?
No idea.
So it's lo-fi with a black star in the background.
And lo-fi is in kind of like a typewriter-y kind of font in like a very past, uh, well, like a, like a, like a blue,
like a, like almost like the fantastic fours blue.
Um,
Lofi is the opposite of Hi-Fi.
You've got a point there, Matt.
Yes.
You know what Hi-Fi is?
What?
High fidelity.
Oh, low fidelity.
Wow.
I can't even find this logo online when I'm searching for it.
It seems like it might've been a clothing brand.
Yeah, I could see that.
It's giving like Roxy energy.
It's a surf brand.
Yeah.
Oh, this person is definitely a surfer.
Yes.
So that's the first one, the snow.
The font has a white outline and a blue interior.
I think this one is, I mean, I don't want to tip my hand too quickly, but I don't like it.
I hate it.
Okay. So above that-
It's boring compared to the rest of them.
Yeah. There's some solid gold in here.
Yeah.
Supporting character, lo-fi sticker.
Next we have a sticker that says, it's a kiss cut vinyl gloss finish.
And it says Bogan Pride.
Now, Bogan and Pride are separated by a circle,
not unlike a kind of Looney Tunes style circle,
where a Looney Tune might emerge.
However, in this case, it's a delightful new character,
a cartoon kangaroo tongue waggling out of its mouth,
not unlike Zelda Moon last night in that pot mask.
Its eyes, instead of it full alert, are kind of unusual for a cartoon character, half-cast.
It looks like it's got a quizzical expression. A smile, a kind of cheeky smile on this kangaroo's
face. Its ears tucked behind the word, Bogan. Now in its hand, because it does have hands,
it has, well, they the kind of humanoid,
which is a bit upsetting. There is a black and white a sign of beer in one hand, it's
right. And then its left hand, it's holding a cigarette. And the colors are limited, three
colors, probably quite a cheaper print. But we have a cream, a cream to brown for the kangaroo itself.
It's red tongue and then it's a yellow background.
And otherwise, it's sort of like a poo brown,
Villefont colour.
Well, we don't say poo brown.
Yeah.
You know?
Kaka.
Oh!
You know, I'd say it's an Hermes brown.
Yes.
And then below that, Zelda.
Okay.
So just quickly, when I was sucking this guy's dick through the pop mask, it was-
Oh, what was the clearance like?
Really limited.
Because the snout is protruding, right?
Yes, so the snout protrudes and then there's like kind of like a chin strap built in.
Chin strap.
But the chin strap was really quite tight.
So it kept kind of like...
Well, cause of your giant melon head.
You jacket.
The pumpkin king.
I've grown so...
Yeah, but it kept like sliding up.
Covering the melon head.
And then... I'm thinking. I've grown so, yeah.
Yeah, but it kept like sliding up.
Covered in the mouth hole.
Yeah, and then it was like cutting into the dick.
And what was quite uncomfortable.
Cause like how many inches is the clearance
of the overhang of the?
I'd say like three inches.
And are there only three inches?
Maybe four. It came out.
And then how long is the dick? I was conscious. Can I say in this horrific level of detail that
for some reason I'm going into, that it was quite evident to me that like when he was like all the
way down my throat, that like the snout was like pushed like beyond like even his like balls kind of thing. So like, Oh, you're upside
down. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's the bit that, yeah. Oh, well, yes. Um, and I was like, I
think he's experiencing more of this hood than I am because he can feel the hood protruding,
but I couldn't. Do you know what I mean? Like he was getting nuzzled by the dog.
You do not yet have sensation.
We had not yet.
Technology is not really.
No.
Yeah.
So he was yeah, experiencing more than I was.
So anyway, that, the smell.
So you couldn't smell what was going on down there?
No.
Thank goodness.
Yep.
Oh, Matt, get into the mood.
Thank goodness. Well, it sounds get into the mood. Thank goodness.
Well, it sounds like it was that far up.
You wouldn't want to smell too much.
Anyway, I'm just saying for me.
No idea what you're talking about.
This is how culture you're talking about.
Okay.
Now next we have what I'm discovering.
Oh, have you gone?
No, I told about deep-roading in a pop mask.
But now I'll come to the next sticker.
Sorry, sorry.
Which is of course a simple and hideous, I love Nimban sticker.
Well, I think you'll find it's I Heart.
Oh, God. Yes. So it's, uh, the, uh,
the heart is indeed of love is represented by a red heart and I dunno, it's just awful.
Yeah. Obviously like a little tourism sticker. I don't love anything. Well, we, we, we, um,
I don't love anything. Well, we heart.
Yeah.
I mean, it gives, I don't know.
I love, I heart New York isn't to blame for all of this, but.
Well, it is.
Yeah, it's an evocation of the 1977 advertising campaign for the city of New York.
I heart New York, which is funny because,
I think now we think that like, oh, saying I Heart Nimbin
is kind of funny, because Nimbin is obviously not
the metropolis of New York City.
But at the time that that ad campaign was created,
New York was kind of in a little bit of a decline.
I think through the 70s into the 80s,
New York was kind of a, a crumbling, you know, um, end of
kind of capitalist decay.
Um, so it is kind of apt to then celebrate Nimbin in the same
centres.
I've never been to Nimbin though.
Me neither.
What is Nimbin famous for?
I definitely don't blame them for this sticker.
It's like the drug capital of the northern New South Wales.
Oh my God.
Did you not know that?
No.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like where everyone gets their weed from.
Oh, it is the hippie capital.
Hippie.
What is the drug problem in Nimbin?
What is it?
Oh, it's just weed.
Oh, and heroin.
problem in Nimbin. What is it? Oh, it's just weed. Oh, and heroin. Sorry, Nimbin.
Okay, next sticker.
Okay, the next sticker is a mandala. Yeah, something like a sun catcher might be. In the centre is a I mean, this person is that they go into low fire, they're
surfing, and then they're taking their mandala sticker. But in the centre of the
sticker is something that is unmistakably my face.
And it is, it's this angry looking cherub with a little curlicue of blonde hair and
rosy red cheeks.
Yes, the rosy cheeks kill me.
And then lipsticks and then fronds of a lotus flower surrounding their head in a kind of
flat style.
Yeah. Do you think the pophood would fit you?
In my giant skull?
Yeah.
Not bloody likely.
Although we do have similar sized skulls, maybe.
Maybe. We have had hats made.
Have we had? Yeah. I don't know.
I don't know. No one could know.
No one. I do have a large, large head, which is why I have to marry my husband because we both
have large heads.
It's off limits to talk about.
That's right.
I couldn't get with some pinhead out there.
No, no.
Okay.
Moving on, we have a circle sticker, one that I'm very, very familiar with.
This is sticker as an advertisement for Mr. Zog's Sex Wax,
which is a popular brand of surfboard wax that my father has used for many years.
Your dad uses the Sex Wax.
Yeah.
Mostly because...
funny.
Oh, you think that's the reason?
100%. There is no doubt that that is why my father uses that brand. And no doubt why many
men like him have kept this company in business.
Yeah. Wow.
And to that I say, as long as the wax is good, who could argue?
And that's for grip. Yeah.
Yes.
Imagine the grip.
Yeah, but yeah, I don't guess if you don't know this listener, surfboards need to have
a wax coating laid across them for the surfer to grip onto for both while they're paddling
and for stability while they're surfing the waves.
And on a hot summer's day, you might sun your board to let the wax heat up.
And then you scrape it off with this incredible tool to put on a new layer.
Why do you do that?
It gets a bit gunky after a while.
Is it just for the gum?
Like you kind of add more on every time you go surfing or every other time,
but it gets to a point.
It's kind of like, um, reusing your lashes.
Oh yeah.
Like there'll be layers and layers and layers of duo.
And then you'll get to a point where you're like, okay, I'm just going to peel this off
and start fresh.
And that's the same thing.
Yeah.
Except when it destroys the lash and it disintegrates.
I'm sick of my lashes.
Anyway.
Okay.
The next one is raving and drooling, which a cursory Google search has led me down a
path. You know, something that seems a bit bizarre
and first blush.
I've discovered is in fact the original name of Pink Floyd song.
So whether this person knows that raving and drooling was in fact a Pink Floyd reference,
which does-
Resonated with them, I think.
Yeah.
Now the font is a serif
font mmm all caps it almost looks akin to the Vogue magazine font in black in a
kind of a key line long you know you know eight or nine pixel key line around a burnt umber orange rectangle, kind of a
seventies orange, a bit deeper than that.
But yes, black key line.
And then the and is smaller, about half the size of the other two words, raving and drooling,
which is stacked atop each other, raving and then the small and to its right. Yes. And then beneath them all drooling, which is stacked atop each other, raving, and then the small and to its right,
and then beneath them all, drooling.
I think if this had some little, like two rows of chains above it, you might find it
dangling outside a bookstore.
Yeah, you could raven drool.
And then if you read the words, as you might do if you were attending a bookstore, you'd be horrified because it's not...
I didn't come here to raven drool. I came here to read and learn.
That's correct. Matt, do you want to...
You describe this final sticker for us, please.
Matt, we've taken all the glory here. You describe the last.
We just want to share it.
You've saved the worst one for last. All right. Or the best one, depends on what you think.
Um, okay.
So the last one, it says caution in capital letters in a sort of bubble font.
Um, and then the second line says big mummy milkers on board, which
it's spelt the Australian way as well, mummy.
Yeah, this is a local.
Local.
Shop local.
This person is obviously a proud, like Australian.
They support our local community and support the Big Mummy Milks.
So all of that, the first part's in caps.
Yeah.
The second two lines, or Big Mummy Milk is second line.
Onboard is the third line. And it's a, it's a sort of dusky purple.
Yeah.
I would say it's a kind of almost pure like fuchsia.
Yes.
That fuchsia computer color.
Just Big Mummy Milkers.
Yes.
The rest is all in.
The font is definitely like a seventies throwback kind of font.
Yeah. A little bit psychedelic.
Bubble, bubble font letters.
Yeah.
And I love that you could read it, caution on board, big mummy milkers.
Or caution, big mummy milkers on board because of the color selection.
Two ways to interpret it.
If you have a color blind, you just might think, oh, caution on board.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Cool.
OK, so I think it is interesting that that sticker is on there,
because the shadow of the person in the car looks like an old man.
Mama, I can confirm there were no big mummy milkers on board during this ride,
because I was looking for them, and there were none to be found.
Couldn't see any.
It's not up to them. Also advertising.
Well.
Okay. I have to say my top three are Vogue and Pride with a baller, I heart Nimban and
caution big mummy milkers on board.
Oh, that one's good.
That is a good one. Matt, what are your top three? You go first. I don't on board. Oh, that one's good. That is a good one.
Matt, what are your top three?
You go first.
I don't want to.
Oh, okay.
I want to be the tiebreaker.
Okay.
Well, I'm going to go for raving and drooling.
Then as a little shout out, I'm going to do the sex wax.
And my third choice is really difficult, but I think I will settle on, um,
caution, big mommy milkers on board.
Okay.
That's good.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, look, I do love raving and drooling cause just how crammed the
letters are in that box, they just seem to be almost falling out, which really,
really adds to the vibe of that sticker. in that box that just seemed to be almost falling out, which really, really
adds to the vibe of that sticker.
And Matt, can I have a request?
Yeah.
Never say crammed in that box. Is that triggering you?
Does it?
No, I just don't need to hear your lips past that one.
Yeah.
Um, I, I actually do like the little mandala of Robbie's face because it just
reminds me of Robbie and that makes me happy.
Um, I think then so mandala, Bogan pride, and, and then I'll have to go
caution my milkers as well, just cause it's such a wild card.
Well, that's it.
I think, you know, with three votes, unlike every other sticker we've mentioned,
into the bunker and I think on the bunkers outside door.
On the top of the hatch.
It's on the hatch.
Yeah.
When, you know, the survivors in the wasteland discover the hatch to the bunker,
there'll be a small sticker that says, caution, big mummy milkers on board.
Wow. And it has to go on the back of the car as well. What's the car? that says caution, big mommy milkers on board.
Wow. And it has to go on the back of the car as well.
What's the car, the bait bus?
We've got the bait bus.
That's appropriate.
We've got the Jeep, we've got Volantis.
We've got that.
Definitely on the back of a Volantis.
We've also got that monster truck.
That feels appropriate.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, good. Good.
Okay. Well, it. Yeah. Okay, good.
Good.
Okay.
Well, it's in.
Goodbye, everyone.
Hello and welcome back.
Hi.
My leg day to you.
My leg day.
It's now time for our third and final category of the night.
Now, this one, I'm sorry, we really are theming this episode
and I really hate to do this to you all,
but the question is, which Drag Race alum music song gets into the bunker?
Which is how, of course, we refer to it.
Which Drag Race alum music song gets into the bunker?
Yeah, it's a sentence that I've heard so many times.
I...
Including RuPaul.
Yeah.
I...
Oh, including RuPaul.
Oh, maybe we'll leave it out.
No, because we'll do which RuPaul song gets in.
Haven't we already done that?
Probably.
Anyway.
Okay.
I don't know that I need to consider any other option...
I know exactly what you're going to say.
When we already have our diamond crowned queen.
Oh, I've surprised you.
You didn't think I was going to say that?
What?
Diamond crowned queen.
No, I didn't think-
Follow me, follow me.
I need to hear that.
I'm a diamond crowned queen.
Could you play it, please?
In my pretty, pretty palace.
So Rajah released this atrocious song called Diamond Crown Queen.
Oh, you really are surprising.
I think you're going to say wigs, mama.
You want to make more money?
Follow me, follow me.
I'm a diamond crown queen.
Come with me to my pretty, pretty palace. Oh my god.
And so it goes.
That was incredible.
So yes, Raja, our season three queen, indeed won a diamond crown and then she sang about
it.
She is our diamond crown queen.
But I love that song.
It's so good.
But I also love from a similar era.
It's not her song, but doesn't, oh, that diva cameo is in that song,
the one who picked that girl up and threw her or whatever. Oh yeah. What is that song?
Shark Teeth. Yeah, no. Other one. You say and I'll find it. Well, I just think it's interesting. We
are, like, I mean, I remember when Drag Race, like when I came aboard the Drag Race franchise, like
as a viewer, it was such a like niche thing, these music videos that would come up from
these drag queens.
And it was so exciting and you become kind of hyper fixated on them.
Yes.
So I don't think you ever kind of leave that world behind. Like I loved all of Adore Delano's music from that time.
It was so good.
Like my address is Hollywood, so fun.
I adore you, amazing.
I adore you.
And then I think just Alaska having the first kind of genuine stabs at the like,
your makeup is terrible, which was so genuinely a bop.
Yes.
And like, so like became part of the whole vernacular of drag.
And then she continued with hiiii, which you've performed before.
I have. I've performed quite a few of Alaska's songs.
And then I think like, wow, is the one that I would genuinely put on all the time.
Um, I also like Trixie's country moment.
Me too.
I think they're so good.
Yeah.
I really like that.
Um, hello, hello.
One.
Hello, hello is so, and then amazing music video.
The music video is so good.
She hits the tennis ball through the, um, competitor.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
But yes, the one I was talking about was Mimi.
I'm first who features on Gisele's song Queen.
I'm a be your queen on the dance floor.
You know that song.
And what about when Miss Fame released her song, Plastic Doll?
Oh, yes.
Was it called Plastic Doll or just doll?
Because Lady Gaga released Plastic Doll.
Everyone was riffing on the same theme. Oh my God. plastic doll or just doll because Lady Gaga released plastic doll.
Everyone was riffing on the same theme. Oh my God.
Um, I do like Violet's like singles as well.
I mean, they're really fun.
When she put out, um, Daddy Needs a Spank.
Yeah.
That was just, cause it was the first cool, you know, cool drag race music.
She's in that house in full latex, but her Mistress Violet is actually genuinely just like,
you could put that on anywhere.
It's so good. And then the film clip that has Dita in it, I can't remember what the song is,
but they're like on the escalators going past each other and stuff.
That film clip is incredible. I don't think the song is as memorable, but they're like on the escalators going past each other and stuff. That's that film clip is incredible.
I don't think the song was as memorable, but anyway.
Then we have, I mean, like, what else?
I mean, like the, um, oh my God, what was the one?
Oh, oh, when, oh, it was just a lip sync.
I was just thinking about when Valentina came and did that cover, lip sync cover, and she's in the hotel lobby and she's like, I'll always be your queen.
And then she like did that full impeccable lip sync to this famous Spanish song.
Valentina.
That was incredible.
What about purse first?
Purse first?
No.
No.
But do you know what I do like?
Yeah. Clat. Club. Legend. Art. Theatre.
Legendary status, big by big, and it did not come from a YouTube clip.
And true, that is incredible.
It's also just...
so bad, but amazing.
I mean, that is fit for most of these.
What about es una pasiva?
Willem's cover of his cover of That Boy Is A Bottom.
Es una pasiva.
I, no, I don't like that.
Okay.
No, I don't think it being in another language
is something to laugh about.
Es una pasiva.
No?
Like what's the flavor?
What's when she goes on tour?
Yeah, but like, I feel like it's-
South America.
She's got fans there.
It's a bit.
They deserve her love.
I like it when the girls make songs in Spanish
and acknowledge our Spanish language fans.
Yes.
Yeah. If it's fans? Yes. Yeah.
If it's authentic to you,
No.
I think that they are more than capable
of absorbing all content.
But it's like when Alaska did her amazing,
what is it?
Come to Brazil.
Come to Brazil.
But that, but see this is why Alaska is the gal
because that song is self-aware.
Yeah.
So that's fine.
Willem's self-aware.
And she took the time.
If J.Lo does songs in Spanish despite the fact that she doesn't speak the language.
Oh my God.
And Selena Gomez does songs in Spanish despite the fact she doesn't speak the language.
No.
Okay.
Yeah. Oh no, I mean Derek Berry's most recent album is
probably the most recent set of songs to actually enter the cultural canon. Yes, yes. Blonde.
It won't be long before you're blonde, blonde, blonde. What about Triple A, eight girls?
Yeah, I mean, I like the one like, hey, hey, hey.
That was late in their run.
But I like that one because it's not a parody.
I don't need like their version of other things.
Oh, you don't like that?
I don't like that.
Even like I'm looking at this list and it's got Kutcher's like Ding Dong.
I love Ding Dong.
No, because just listen to the La Bota song.
It's better.
I mean, the La Bota song is better.
But like, I don't know, like, yeah, I'm just not into that kind of thing.
Not that, that's in.
What about Bring Me A Man?
Santa Bring Me A Man.
What?
The cover of the Weather Girl song. Bring me a man, I need a man. What? The cover of the weather girl song.
Bring me a man.
I need a man dear Santa.
Who did the cover?
Triple A girls.
Oh, true actually.
They look so good in that video.
And it's very like.
Yeah.
Yeah, true.
Listen, it do be like.
It do be.
What else is worse?
There's that Laganja song where she's like,
oh my God, legs with your head like a pretzel.
Oh my God, Latrice Royale live rendition of Wait.
Wait.
At the season six premiere.
Yeah.
Pre-show.
Oh.
Can't eat all the food off of this plate.
This plate.
Look at me, I'm sickening. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sickening.
I go to the gym, bitch, but I ain't lifting no weights.
That was next level.
Yeah, I may be fat, bitch, but you're ugly and I can lose weight.
As she so beckably said.
Incredible.
Um, and that performance, listener, if you have not watched it, it's on YouTube. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry to fill it out and then you serve so hard.
The only woman that is sweatier than me in drag is Latrice Royale and she is sweating.
Like saturated.
And she then dives into a split.
Yeah.
And like there's just a bit, so like the song, I don't know if there's multiple versions,
but like the song on Spotify or whatever has like a feat with Epiphany Mattel, no relation
to Trix Mattel, but she wasn't there for the live show.
So instead there's like this little like dance break bit where Latrice just absolutely like
smashes it and just is like busting a move.
It's so good. It's so good.
It's very good.
Oh, um, that might be my number one.
Yeah, I'm sick.
Um, hold up.
Wait a minute.
Let me put my phone in it.
Uh, what about come through feet lemon Priyanka.
I mean, I love the lemon verse, but the rest of it doesn't quite
hand stand up. I also just thought that whole Priyanka extended universe was
not for me. Me neither. I mean I like Priyanka I just sometimes the kids entertainer in her
jumps out in a way that I'm like yeah this feels very PG. Yes. Um, um, I was going to say, no, no, no, no, no, no, that, um, that benign would
say something about Pablo Vittar right now if she was here.
But she's not Drag Race Alarm.
Oh, sister, you've raised an excellent point.
Shut up benign girl.
She's not even Drag Race Alarm.
What about Gummy Bear by Ginger Minj?
an excellent point. Shut up, benign girl. She's not even Drag Race at Lump. And what about Gummy Bear by Ginger Minj?
Okay. So I had the horrific moment this week when I was reminded that that song existed.
And then I cursed my sister by reminding her as well. So how recently ground Gwyn did indeed,
I think it was for her last outing on All Stars, released a song called Gummy Bear.
Yeah.
That's pretty bad. Yeah. Yeah. Um, that's pretty bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With the worst music video.
And I'd say, oh, you know, listen, I think, um, the other ones that I get
a honorable mention are yet another dig.
I think that one's really good.
If you're going from the Bob Extended Universe, I think Bob's song, Gay Bars
is pretty fucking amazing.
Um, there's some great stuff in there.
Like Bobby's has some genuinely like good tracks.
And then unfortunately just due to her now
complete canceled status, actually two of them.
Number one, Shangela's work.
I came up in that elevator and I can go back down in the elevator.
Work.
It's time to work.
Um, it's pretty good.
Yeah.
Also pay me.
It's so good.
Yeah.
And then the other canceled Queen with amazing music and it's a cover.
Why do you think you are nuts?
Why do you think you are nuts?
By Sharon Needles.
Yeah.
So good.
What about Haunted House?
Shut up.
This club is a haunted house.
Okay.
Yeah.
All good.
And Matt, you'll meticulously go through and put in little five second samples of each
one of those songs.
Yeah.
Thank you so much, Matt.
Perfect.
But to me, Alaska will always have my heart of someone who is just like the actual, the real deal of she can, she has a true
musicality, she can sing enough to pull it all off. Yeah. And her music is so iconic because it's not
really ever tied so specifically to something that she can't, you know, perform it anywhere.
Oh, it's just like a genuine side music career.
And if you see those songs live, people go crazy.
Yeah.
Your makeup is terrible works today as it did 10 years ago.
Totally.
Like, it's evergreen.
It's very good.
Very good.
But I think for me it would actually have to be the song, Wow.
I think that is genuinely the best Drag Race song that's ever existed.
Wow.
I'll just sing it back.
Wow.
I think I'm also just such a millennial child that anything that sounds vaguely like blink
one eight two.
It has that to it, which is what I'm a little allergic to, but it is so good.
Do you know, I was listening to an episode that we released recently where
you talked about how, like we were talking about fragile, sweet, sensitive
boys, and we were talking about how emo might've been a response from women to
like, want to find more sweet, fragile boys.
And you said, well, the boys at my school were much more blink one eight two.
And I wrongly agreed with you and said, oh, they Blink-182 boys were narky and scary.
But the Blink-182 boys, the actual boys in the band, all their songs were just about
like, wanting to take a girl out on a date and wondering whether she's going to reject
you.
You know what I mean?
And how sensitive they were.
I don't know.
I just thought I'd throw that in.
I don't know.
I'm too busy in. I don't know.
I'm too busy in the Lincoln park.
Norway and I'm so sorry.
Wait, did I like Lincoln park because of the dog park in my future?
Is there a slide there?
Is there lots of grass to run around in?
That music video with the flying whale, what's that about? What do you want to say?
I want to ask Matt what his favourite Drag Race Queen song is.
Oh, whichever one you guys like.
Oh, that's so generous.
Well, don't be afraid to cut in if you've got a good suggestion.
I know you listen to them all the time.
I do.
Uh, well, wow.
I mean, that's my pick.
Yeah.
I don't care.
You don't care.
I mean, actually, just on the Trixie Mattel discography, the
Red Side of the Moon song about his sister is really like, oh my God, so
emotional and then Soulja, which is about Katya
when she was going through her relapse,
is really emotional too.
I mean, just good work from her.
I like that.
Well. Yeah.
So how's that? Hold up!
Wait a minute, let me put my folk in it.
Apple pie.
Oh my God, you forgot your diva, Bibi.
Oh my God.
That is crazy.
That is actually crazy.
Well, I did bring her up earlier.
I'm sorry, Bibi, not when it really counted.
Bibi Zahara-Bene had, she was, I mean, maybe first.
She was the OG, yeah.
Yeah, because in season one, she'd already had music out,
but she continued to release music.
And it's good music.
It's kind of like Alaska, where it's like,
kind of a bit more of a legitimate side thing.
It's not just like rando singles, trying to cash in,
but, oh, they're so good.
What's your favorite?
Jungle kitty.
Yeah.
I'm pussy bitch.
Um,
Ooh la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la You can take my snag. Wrap me love. Give me more.
Take it to the bar.
Um, baby, so Matt, that's weird.
Did you not?
I don't know.
I love Matt being like, oh, can't wait to hear this legitimate musician.
I'm going to check out every single one of his artists.
Um.
Fucking banjo is also so good.
Yeah. Like a ban, fucking banjo is also so good. Yes.
Like a banjo, banjo.
But I do think face is like kind of undeniable.
Cameroon is a bit boring.
Cameroon.
Also, I'm the shit.
I'm the one.
Where she's like a sexy teacher.
Oh no, I love that one.
It's so good.
The music video is so good. The music video is so good. She is so undeniably, maybe the most charismatic Drag Race Queen to have ever been on the show.
Because she truly does not give a shit.
No.
Ugh.
Like imagine, because she was the first winner to ever reappear unannounced, like in the
promo for season three.
And then she's there and she doesn't win,
but is so not affected by it.
No.
She's just like, yeah, whatever.
This meant nothing to me.
Cameroon is Cameroon.
Okay.
True.
Okay. Well, now that we've talked about it,
I'm satiated anyway.
Yeah.
So, wow.
Yeah, I'm going to say wow. Okay.
Which is ironic because she doesn't even perform the song in drag, but it's so good. That whole
album where the whole album was just about throwing back to the early aughts and she like, each one is
a parody of a different style. So she's got her Britney Spears song and her like S Club seven song
and it's so good. Fun.
Alaska's in the bunker, so she'll be delighted to be able to perform it, I suppose.
Yeah, gorgeous.
Yeah.
Okay, let's lock it all in.
So our favorite controversy is Asia O'Hara's Butterfly wristbands.
Our favorite bumper sticker from that Mazda3 we saw today was of course...
Matt, could you give us another reading on that?
No, you do it. No, Matt, we wouldn't want to rob you of this.
I'm okay. Caution.
What was it? Back it up.
Big... Big mummy milkers.
Big mummy milkers on board.
On board. Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
And the song is, wow, by Alaska Thunderfuck 5000. 3000? Big mommy milk is on board. On board. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much.
And the song is, wow, by Alaska Thunderfuck 5000.
3000?
Yeah.
5000 from the planet Glamtron.
I really want to hear more about the planet Glamtron.
Yeah.
I just think we need some extended lore there.
I think that'd be fun.
Okay.
Okay.
Listener, thank you.
Sorry for all the snuffles.
And sorry for that bit where I talked about getting fucked in the pop mask.
I'm not, not, not.
Okay, goodbye.
Bye.
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