Death To Everyone - Death To... Enemies, Fireworks & Hats

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

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Which is funny because my boyfriend is like an hour to properly wake up. And he was always like, why are you doing this? Huh? Cause I'd be like, I'm wide awake. I'm wide awake. Yeah. I was in the dark. I, I too, like you get up and then I'm up.

Yeah. I don't need like, Oh, it's cause I also wake up when I am ready to wake up. If I have woken up like, you know, at six 30, when my body is like, no, we're not waking up at six 30 back to sleep. Like it, it just not going to happen. But then when I'm awake, it's like, okay, let's go.

The day is here. I'm not saying I'm getting out of bed, but I'm like, Oh, I'm ready to think about all my bits for the day. Yeah. Yeah. But I also, you were saying in the car on the ride here to the celestial void, Zelda moon, that you have like a weird sleep habit where you have just never slept a good night in your entire life. Is this true?

This is true. So what, talk me through this. So my example was my Polish lover was over. Also who taught me how to say Matt Kosciuszko properly. Oh my god, give it a go. Bitch, Australians did not need to know this, but that's named after a Polish explorer and it's like Yes, it's not Kosciuszko. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. So he was over.

Sounds like a soup with gelatin fish eggs in it or something. And I woke up in the middle of the night as I often do. Well this is- To your point. Okay, yes. And I hear him say, not in like a I'm half asleep, but just like Katy Perry wide awake Yeah, she took the substance and I was like

And he was asleep. Yeah, he was talking to someone in his dream I don't know and then he was like, yeah what she took the substance and I was like what? What are you talking about? And then he woke up and was like, what are you talking about? You're a freak. He's like, what are you talking about? Anyway, and then when we woke up in the morning time, he was like, yeah, what? To which I say, why were you awake at that time? Right.

And to my answer is, I think I just slipped very lightly. I got a sleep light. You sleep light. Do you ever get REM sleep? Do you think? Or do you think you've just never had a good night's sleep in your life? And that's why you're like this. Sometimes. That's why you know what I will say? You say it's like the only time in recent memory that I've like had a good sleep is like if I've had like a little bit of like weed or like weed edible. Drugs.

Yeah. Drugs on this podcast? It's like actually is like, oh, I can, I'll sleep now. Because the low hum of anxiety disappears. Yes. Because I just go to bed and think about things. Like I can't not think about things. Well, give me, I want to hear some of your internal monologue. The lights are off.

You've put the phone down. Okay. What are we hearing? Can I? Okay. So tonight, what will keep me up at night? Okay. Is I had a very long day at work, right?

Okay. And, uh, today and yesterday at work, I was doing, um, training on present presenting and educating. um, training on present presenting and educating. And today, which was, yeah, like yesterday we got all this like training on like how to present and how to get over nerves and da da da. Okay. Yeah. Well, I'm fine. Um, but great. Whatever.

Then it was like dropped that today in part two of this incredible training, you would be facilitating some learning and half the people in the room were like, oh, whatever. And half were like, oh, what? In front of everyone I have to present? Anyway, ended up being smaller groups. So like it was six groups of like six people. And like throughout today, you had to present back on something that we were content that we were given last night. It didn't really matter what the content was. The point was give it a go, get a comfort zone, practice some of these techniques

with presenting and engaging an audience and all that stuff, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yes. All fine. But of course, and in a great way, part of the training we had yesterday was a little segment on acknowledgement of country and like things to say, things to not say, things to embellish, things things to personalize things to not as well. Because of course, depending on the context, that can be an important thing to live to deliver. And it is so often something that completely freaks people out.

Yeah. In a good way, because people don't want to fuck it up because they care. Right. So that is great. Is that my phone? I think that was your phone. Sorry, everyone. In what world?

Are you throwing your phone now? Oh, it wasn't on silent. Oh my gosh. I'm haunted. I think you need to take some notes about how to present. Wow. So, so there was that, right? And then today we're presenting and the first person in my group goes and she was pretty

like she was maybe like 70% confident in her skills coming into this. 30% lame. 30% nerves. Okay, sorry. No, I'm going to say 60-40. 60-40% shit. No, I'm going to say 60% shit. Okay, 60% No, I'm gonna say 60-40. 60-40% shit. No, I'm gonna say 60% shit.

Okay, 60% shit, 40% ready to go. Yeah. Diva, if you're listening to this, we're talking about you. No, I actually loved her. She was such a vibe. But she's not very experienced with presenting. She wasn't a manager.

She was just part of the team. She was just a little pleb. That's not what I said. That's what I said. Yeah. She was a little pleb. was just a little pleb. That's not what I said. That's what I said. Yeah. She was a little pleb. Disgusting. Anyway, she's the first one to go, which is really like, it is intimidating. Even in a group of six people, like giving it a go, all that stuff.

So like, good on you. But she starts with her acknowledgement of country, which she just read off a piece of paper and then went into the content that she was delivering, which she actually delivered quite well. Oh yeah. And then the whole point of this exercise is they deliver five for 10 minutes and then we provide feedback for 10 minutes. So then all five people have a few minutes to collate their thoughts and write their feedback. And then you give it to the person, but all of it,. And then you give it to the person. But all of it, of course, is constructive and from the right place and stuff.

How do you grow if you don't get told what you did well and what you should improve on? You said 60% shit, but that 40% let's work on building that. Anyway, cause she was the first one to go and obviously like performing and working here for a long time, I've done a lot of acknowledgement of country and I've gone through the process of being really passed out about it and being like, I'd like, I'd rather not deliver it than deliver it and fuck it up or do something disingenuous. Well listen, Wurundjeri or Wurundjeri? I don't know how to fucking say it still. It's really hard.

And it's... I mean, it's also bigger than just that. Like when I think of cultures and countries that pay, like to do a better job than Australia does of integrating those things into general discourse. Like there are better examples than, and then Australia, right? So like we're not necessarily set up for success for that, which in and of itself is a huge fucking issue that we should address as a broader piece. But anyway, we are now doing this thing, right? Which is a good step.

It doesn't fix much. No, and there's a lot of observation, but great though. It's part of the discourse now, right? Anyway, so we get to the feedback part and I'm like, cool. Da da da da. And I was like, what I will say is not on you, but for like, generally, if you were doing training, um, in the back of a store, which like we all had like different scenarios, right?

So like, are you presenting to team or you're presenting to customers or like you set up your own little thing and she was doing it to like team. It's like a little team training on, I don't know, like skincare routines. And I went in and I was like, I think it's really quite inappropriate to do an acknowledgement of country leading into a how to do your skincare routine

for five people. Like, I just don't think it's necessary. So it feels tokenistic and like you were doing it because you felt like you had to do it. And the fact that you read it off the sheet of paper shows that you aren't speaking from the heart and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. But my point was as a training example,

I was like, it's not you. It's just like, I'm talking to all six of us, including myself. But I was like, the best way to make that impactful in my experience is to not read it off a script and to not memorize the script and read it. Leave the Molly's girls alone. But very that because if you and the audience know the word that's going to come next, baby, what the fuck? Like that is not from the heart.

It's not from you. It's also not about you. So like, you don't want to make it about you, but there's got to be somewhere in between where it lands really well is is genuine, all that stuff. Which is all what I said with all that context. I didn't just like go in on this like poor lovely girl. However, what will keep me up tonight is thinking that she thought that I was having a fucking go at her for a poor... Oh darling, she went to the Westgate Bridge and she got over that fence.

She's gone. Because then she was like, oh, well, I mean. And you were reading it off a paper. And I'm just saying this to everyone. You were reading it off a piece of paper, everyone. Well, she did. She did. And you know what?

Your nerves, that does not count. For shit, you should have memorized it. I know you had a day. You've never done this before. Well. You read it off a piece of paper and that cannot be denied. So she was then like, well,. You've never done this before. Well. You read it off a piece of paper and that cannot be denied. So she was then like, well, I've actually never done it before.

So that was my first time and I just thought this would be a good chance to do it in this training. Your last chance. And I said to her, yes, no, exactly. I'm really glad you did. But I just met in a broader context of like, if you're doing this like 10 minute training with someone out the back, you probably wouldn't do an acknowledgement of country first. And she's like, okay, yes, I get it.

But I was just giving it a go. I was like, yes, I know I'm glad, but da da da da da. And then she was like, also, I'm an immigrant here. So like, it's, so like, you know, I'm not used to this because I'm from, she was born in America. She lived in Denmark for 10 years. And then she's lived here for like 13 years or something. And I was like, okay, all of that is great context.

Like maybe like, so a cis white man in one fell swoop targeted an immigrant and said that they didn't need to honor the legacy of the indigenous people upon this land. And acknowledge that we are standing on unceded land. You said it's not necessary, Diva. No. Maybe it is where you're from. So anyway, that exchange. And now this one.

And now this one. And I'll now forever live in the fear that she'll one day discover I have a podcast and listen to this episode. 60-40, bitch. If you'd, oh my God. In the best way. Yes. In the way that you are now 60% bad and nervous, 40% confident. Good. Some of the other divas were a hundred percent nervous, baby.

You should have heard some of the other feedback. What are their names? Absolutely not. Go back to all this. This is what you're going to be thinking about tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

Um, that's intense. That's a lot. Yeah. Matt, do you have any thoughts? At night? Yeah. Oh yeah. It's just a constant barrage of insecurities and...

Really? Regrets. Yeah. No, Matt, it can't be. Well, not always. I thought you were a safe one. No. What? I thought Matt was not anxious. I thought you were a safe one. No. What? I thought Matt was not anxious.

Oh my God. She is a nervous now. I am very anxious. What are you anxious about? Um, everything, I guess. Oh God. What is wrong with the world? Yeah.

Where do all these people come from? It's like when I had that conversation. It just didn't build in my DNA. It's just, you know, plus... Because your mum's a bit of a nervous, nervous gal. Yeah, she is. And you know, there's generational trauma. There's...

Oh God, you're not thinking about that at night, are you? I am. Put it to bed. It's over. Oh my God. I mean, I've been on the Zoloft for a few years. And is it working? Well, not enough. on the Zoloft for a few years. And is it working? Well, not enough.

Zoloft. Well, yeah, don't tell Zelda about anti-anxiety medication or ruin this podcast. Oh my God. You just live with it, do you? Yeah. Oh, if you can call this living. But what I should say is, hi, my name is Elder Moon and welcome to our podcast. My name's Lazy Susan.

This is Death to Everyone, our weekly podcast where we talk about a range of topics. Maybe this week will be which mental disorder gets in the bunker. Anxiety, maybe. We've got a smorgasbord going on here. And I don't know where Celestial Goddess is, I guess. And we are being driven by our driver a space car driver Who's currently under the influence of prescription medication? That I didn't know about before we hired him and I'm gonna be thinking about that medical marijuana. He's on Gandalf

Yeah, and yeah, so that's my cheers. I'm pretty drowsy. So Just wake me up if I'm drifting out of the space lanes. Well, there's not much to hit in the barren wasteland of space. It's mostly just keep me afoot on the pedal because we don't have cruise control anymore. Can I say, when I was driving to Adelaide with Tina Del Twist, cabaret legend of Melbourne, we were driving in her car that she'd recently had fixed, thank Christ. And she was driving and we were driving, you know, like if you've ever driven from Melbourne to Adelaide, it's just long straight roads.

There's not a lot of topography to kind of keep you stimulated as a driver. Yeah. So she just had her foot on the gas. And I was like, you know, you don't have to put your foot in the gas. You can, your car has cruise control. And she's like, it is what? And I was like, bitch, I, how is your leg not strained to kingdom come? You need to take your foot off the gas and I'll set you up for cruise control.

I turned it on for her. She was like, Oh my God, I've, I've driven so many places with this car and I've never known and Oh my god. And my legs are just free now. And I was like, yeah, bitch. Can I ask two questions about driving? Yeah. One.

Yes. Is it true that you should only use one foot for both pedals? Yes. Okay. Don't. That seems crazy. Unless you're driving manual. Oh, for like the clutch foot?

Yes, you have one on the... Wait, is that true? Yes, yes. Yeah. You have one on the clutch and then you... Or one ready to go on the clutch and then you have one of the brakes and acceleration. One brakes and acceleration. Okay, good. Which this car was a manual. So there's a clutch.

Which I also like... sorry, Tina. It's been a while since I've driven a manual. And once we got back into Brunswick, I was like... I like that. And question two is if your are peddled to the metal, as they say, get your way, like, okay, maybe there's more than one question here,

but if a car knows, a car in Australia knows it's going to be in Australia, right? Because of the seat. The manufacturer knows. We have a maximum, surely as a country, like there's no road where you can drive more than 110 kilometres an hour. Sure.

Maybe some of those crazy outback roads. It's like, I don't know, what do they go to? Maybe like 120? I don't, yeah. Or whatever. I think on the road to Broken Hill is a few roads that go up to like, yeah, 120 or 130. Yeah. I think on the road to Broken Hill is a few roads that go up to like, yeah, 120 or 130. Yeah.

So like there would be some Australian cap of like no car on any road in Australia can legally go over this. Right. So my question is, if you are driving a car in Australia and you put your pedal to the metal, it will take you to 130 and that is the absolute maximum of you full down. No, no, no. So what happens? It can go above that because I mean, like, I don't know how new cars work,

but in like the speedometer is not connected to the pedal. Like it is detecting how fast the car is going in space. Why would a car like a car can't ever go 131. Like you would never drive. No, it can, it can. And do you know if you're driving on 130 road, you can go above the speed limit to overtake. No, you can't.

Yes, you can. You can go over the speed limit to overtake. Yeah. No, you're going faster than a slow poke. No, no, no, no, no. Who's going one. You can safely speed like a few above to overtake. Matt, back me up.

Yeah, definitely. Who can drive in this situation? Like me, you. Yeah. Not Zelda. Not Zelda. She's drunk. Um, that's why she can't drive.

They took her license. Pass it around. Um, anyway, so, but yeah, the speedometer, it's why she can't drive. They took her license, pass it around. Um, anyway, so, but yeah, the speedometer, it's not like it has a cutoff. Measuring the wheel speed. And so the issue, the thing is like with the, the pedal, when you put the pedal to the floor, the car doesn't understand the context of that it's either like you could be, you could be in a bog and you could be putting the pedal to the floor. You'd be at 14 K. Exactly. So there's a few contexts bog and you could be putting the pedal to the floor. You'd only get, you'd be at 14k.

Exactly. So there's a few contexts in which you could be putting the pedal to the floor and it doesn't know necessarily. It just, it only knows like those are two different pieces of information. What if you're going up that hill in San Francisco? Well, exactly. Okay. Do you know what that, that's a big thing in San Fran is that because like there are such steep

inclines, like if you park on the street without your wheels turned in towards the footpath to park, then you can get a ticket. Because if your car rolls and goes forward, it could just go all the way down the hill, which has happened, or if they come out, it'll just roll, roll, roll, roll.

So yeah. You've gotta make sure you park with your. It just rolls all the way to, roll, roll, roll. So you've got to make sure you're part of the ocean. Yeah, exactly. So there may indeed be times where you can safely put your pedal to the metal. Honey, I do it all the time. Especially when you're accelerating. Cause it like, when you go from zero to a hundred or whatever, you could put

your foot down all the way to the floor. Yeah. Cause you just turn like, and you're not going over the speed limit. Yeah. You're just accelerating. You're just saying how far we'll give you a driving lesson. It'll be right. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, this is lesson one. Thank you very much. Cause you just got your feeding. The pedal is just feeding the fuel into the motor. But on that, okay. So new question. What's the new question? Why can the motor indeed go over a set, like, country limit?

Because it doesn't know. But the manufacturer should build that in. No, it couldn't because the motor sometimes needs to work as hard as it takes to get the wheels to spin. But like a monitor, like the pedometer, right? Like once the pedometer hits 130, then the motor cannot give anymore. Well, maybe in the new world regime, but like it's not safe to have like cutouts

because that's just not good for it. Not cut out, like cap. What if someone was chasing you? Yeah. Or like, I mean, also... What if you're... That's no excuse to break the law. Your speed, the speedometer as well is like, if you're going down a hill and you're going the speed limit exactly, just by your momentum, you'll be going over the speed limit.

You'd best slow down. But if you're doing cruise control, it'll break you in a new car and it will slow you down. There's a lot of things in the new cars where they're like actively trying to stop drivers from going above the speed limit, but honestly Australian drivers are proud people and part of our lives as free individuals is the choice. Don't help me, I can do it myself. Well, we're not looking for products that are part of a nanny state. And how do you tell the car that you're in an area where they can't go over the speed limit? Because you can also speed on private property, I assume. You could.

You can speed on private property? And that's right. That's some, like some people like driving around tracks that are made for like whatever speed you want Get you a little girl if you know what I mean Okay, I think that's all my questions about cars probably for the rest of my life. Okay, nanny state Nanny state But I mean for everyone's benefit You can kill people at 80 kilometers an hour. You can kill them at 120.

Knock off five. Arrive alive. You wouldn't know you're drunk. You're lush. What? Yeah. Boozy. Boozy, Zelda, moosie.

She's drunk again on the podcast. Can we talk about Katy Perry being in space now? Finally. I thought you'd never ask. Now. Yeah. Oh, no, sorry. Daisy. The face that she pulled while holding that fucking Daisy is like the face that we would pull if we were like,

now I'm sincere. Hey. I've never seen so, okay. So for context listener, if you don't know. Who doesn't know as it was termed to me by my friend Aiden, I was like, he was like Katy Perry and Gail King and a few extras, very, very, yeah. And so they have them in the, and, um, like as part of Jeff Bezos' space program,

and the trip is essentially like a million dollar space trip where you flung up to the very beginning of space. Not where we are now, but just the very, quote unquote, you're technically in space, but you're not actually. And then it drops back down to the earth, and then they came out. It was an 11 minute ride, which can I say watching people, like react, the gays react to that.

Being like, Oh, I thought she was going to be up there for a while. I'm like, are faggots stupid? Did they think that she was going to be like on a space station, like hanging out? What did they think Katie was going to do in space? I think we just didn't realize that an 11 minute trip was an option. They saw witness. They don't want to see her do that in zero gravity. Gonna get a witness.

Anyway, it was just so bizarre to me. I was like, I don't know that people are very like literate about what's being going on in space but also I The only thing I could think of in the lead-up to this was William Shatner's space experience Because he went on another one of these trips. Uh-huh. And when he came down he was forever changed Did you hear about this? Say more. So William Shatner. Starting with who that is. Captain Kirk from Star Trek.

I'm joking. Which part are you joking about? What? Gets flung into space. He's an icon of space, but now he's visiting the real thing, okay? Got it. So he goes up the real thing. Okay? Got it. Yeah.

So he goes up into space, comes down, and then his main takeaway is like, like celestial horror. Like, he's like, he was like, there's nothing up there. He's like, I looked out into the pitch black nothingness of space and looked back at earth and I realized how rare this thing is that we live on and how there is nothing out there at all. And this is the man who wanted to explore the new front, the final frontier. And he was like, I've never been so happy to be back on this planet that is like, we'll never, you know, like this is the rarest thing in all of space and time.

Like this is incredible. We need to do everything we can to conserve it. So I have that in the back of my head because William Shatner obviously is like a bit of a complicated public figure, a bit of a drunk, bit of a like chaotic being. But he had this like super profound and super deep resonant moment of going to space. And then when I was watching the footage of Katy Perry, who is like someone who she's like Teflon for like deep emotional experiences, because they like took her to the heavens,

a site that very few people in all of human recorded history will ever see. Yeah. And she held up a little Daisy in front of a camera and went, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. And then she went, guys, but we've got to look at the moon.

Ah. Yeah. And then she went, guys, but we've got to look at the moon. Ah. Yeah. Yeah. And what about when she brought up the set list? And then she held up a little butterfly post-it note. Yeah. But with the set list for her upcoming tour,

for Lifetime's tour. Live. And you couldn't really see it. You couldn't see it. And also, all of the women, the extras, Yeah. were like, now I get a turn at holding something up in front of the camera in space.

One of them hold that ugly toy up. I didn't want to see that. Yeah, take it away. Yeah. I was like, oh, you visited the space gift shop before you got in the fucking plane. Yeah. And then the only relatable person there was Gale King

Oprah's best friend. Yeah, alleged lesbian lover winky winky and she had been convinced Told in no uncertain terms by Oprah best friend that she had to go on that flight. Yeah, and she looks fucking miserable. It's so good. I can't tell if it's because, A, she's terrified of heights. B, she saw the vastness of the universe and had an existential crisis.

Or C, she had to spend 11 minutes with Katy Perry. Everyone's been so mean. It's quite funny, but God, like, you know, like, which of course you do, like when JLo released that like pathetic movie, right? And everyone just went in, including us. It's like that. This is me now. Yeah, obviously.

But it's like that all over again. They're just they're really coming for your divas. Yeah. They say back off. They reaching that kind of point in their career. I think where people were just like, what's the fuck? Yeah. Let's lay into them a little bit.

A little bit. It's so sad, but it's very funny. My favorite tweet about that whole thing was where someone posted it. Katy Perry's announcement of going into space. They're like, this bitch flopped so hard, they're sending her to space. Which I would love. And I can't stop thinking about her kissing that dirty ground because it was so dry. All of that dirt would be in her mouth.

She'd be going, yeah, she was really like full kissed the ground, which is also pathetic. Like, But she was what? There was those astronauts that were stuck in the space station for like eight months. Yeah. When that woman,

They didn't come back and kiss the ground. No. Well, she couldn't, she couldn't bend over her bone density was so low. Well, she just flopped to the ground like a fish. That photo of that woman that spent all that time at the space station who admittedly like her features at the time of going on the space station were like very beautiful, beautiful young woman, not young but beautiful woman,

curly girl hair and then like once you like hollowed out her features, listeners go and have a look. She looked like a full out witchy poo. Like she had the, the aquiline nose, like a big crown nose. But it was like once she became really skinny and gaunt from starving on the space station all that time, she had that witchy poo nose. She had a really long chin. And that giant witch's chin. I want to think of witch.

And then really high cheekbones. And then her hair had turned white because she hadn't been able to dye it. It's just been sticking up for like months and months. It looked like they put her into a witchy machine. Oh my God. I literally just looked up space witch. I don't know her name. She doesn't.

Space astronaut. Gruntilda? Yeah. But she like truly came back. I found the witch. Aww. She looks like she was casting spells in space. Oh my god.

That's what space does. Yeah, space turns women into witches. Look at that hooked crone nose. That's what space does. Yeah, space turns women into witches. Look at that hooked crone nose. That's so funny. Wait, what's her name? So the listener can Google it right now. Oh yeah, of course. Let's victimize this poor woman who was stuck in space

and had to make a deal with Satan to come back down. Um, God, being an astronaut would suck. Everything's just like astronauts. Um, Oh my God. Actually though, in the lead up where they were like. Oh, Sunita. Sunita. Wait, let me find the rest of that.

Name. Yeah. Well, Sunita Williams. Suni Williams. Suni Williams. The witch. The witch. The witch is wearing a fucking eye patch. A witch or a pirate.

Yeah. One. Ah, lame. Now, before they took off, the women of the satellite were, they were like, you're an astronauts. And they were like, we are the first all female flight to space since 1968. And we're not women in space. We're women taking up space. Like them saying that in space, like put your hands in.

Taking up space. That was so fucked. It's so fucked. I'd be opening that pod bay door and just getting... Like we all gotta go. You're like, Gail, please don't do it. Don't do it. But if Katie had like maybe stayed up a little bit longer,

22 minutes, had a makeup artist out of camera. And then came back, witch. I'd be like, you got us again, Katie. And then they kept calling them astronauts. If I was an astronaut, a real astronaut, I'd be fucking, if I was witchy, SUNY witch. She got turned into a witch in outer space. That's an astronaut.

That's a real astronaut. She didn't just hold a fucking Daisy up to a camera and go, ehh. Also, the whole thing in the lead up, so like Gail, the extras and Katie were in the minivan taking them to space. And then they were like, so Katie, are you gonna sing? Are you gonna do, and Gail, the extras and Katie were in the minivan taking them to space. And then they were like, so Katie, are you going to sing? Are you going to do?

And Gail was telling the story on today or whatever. And she was like, oh, yeah, we didn't know whether Katie was going to do roar or firework. And then they, she was like, no, I'm not going to sing. I'm actually not going to sing. I'm more than just a singer. And then on the descent, Katie, who had made it very clear to the girls

in the minivan that she was not going to be singing, looked out the window and like quietly was like, I see trees of green, quietly, it was like, I see trees of green, red roses too. I see a ball for me and you. And I think to myself, what a wonderful world. And Gale was like, we didn't sing along. You know, if it had been Firework or Roar, we would have sung along. But we didn't because it felt like she was really having a moment. I was like, Katie! Bitch, what the f...

But you know what I will say? The best thing that came out of this entire thing? Those outfits. Oh mama. They all looked so incredible. So cunty. I was like, wow. That front zip.

That's outrageous. And they were all so like the exact same body. Yes. But like with different faces. Yeah. And women ringing bells. Oh the bell amazing I must say that bell Bail Gail won the bell

What is the bell for they had to like they got up, you know Ready to go on their launch and they walked past this giant silver bell and they Wrung it and wave to the press that was there to see them off. Yeah, just like a goodbye for now and wave to the press that was there to see them off. Yeah. Just like a goodbye for now. Yeah, maybe it's not. I don't know if they ring a lot of bells in space. What I was preoccupied thinking about was like, it looked like they were on like a great platform.

Like, you know, like when you're in Tasmania, doing that like treetop walk thing. It's like a great and like if those space boots had any sort of heel, you'd be falling for that game. Do you think they were putting a little stiletto? Well, if they were serious about going to space. Yeah, you would.

Women taking space. But that's what I was thinking about. And I was thinking about the shoes, and I was thinking about the outfit. And I was like, oh, I wish it was a stiletto. It was probably quite a flat boot. But if only. Yeah. Yeah, bit of a sham. Would you go to space? Yeah. Really? Only

if it was a one way ticket. Where are you going? The sun. Oh, I don't think we even have enough fuel to get you to the sun. No, isn't that crazy? But doesn't thinking about that make you feel like absolutely nothing matters at all? No, that's it. I mean, that's why I think anxiety is such a waste of your time. Who cares? Yeah, but then I should just kill myself.

Yeah, but like- Like genuinely. You might as well kill yourself now, but why not wait a while and see what happens? Well, that's true, because nothing, like- You're the god of your reality. The sun will burst eventually. Sun will burst. If it were not burst, honey, well, it'll do its thing. It'll do its thing.

It'll do its thing. At which point the only things that like will be preserved is like the fucking time capsule that we've like pushed out into the wilderness of space. And gorgeous. Yeah. And of space. And our gorgeous. Yeah. And our bunker. And our bunker. Um, but like truly it will, the world will end.

It won't be for billions of years, but it will end. So what's the fucking point? Well, why watch all of the nanny? You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, it's going to end, but you know, it's the Yeah. You know it's gonna end, but you know it's the journey. You know when you think about like the zooming in, so like this, some like movie or like you're on like

Google Earth or whatever and like zoom in and then zoom in and then you zoom in. Like think of like a crystal on your shelf at home and how much it means to you. Like zooming in on that. Yeah. The world worldview into like your house and the little crystal on your shelf. Like, isn't that just so depressing?

Not really, I don't find it that depressing. I mean, I think it's like things having a scale doesn't, you know, like disturb me any. I'm like. It's just, I find it interesting how much like we like enjoy objects like inanimate or with a pulse. Yeah. Like, and it's just, it is so significant in a way. It also cannot be. I mean, if you think about human consciousness as something that has arisen out of like, you know, like eons of time, as in all the gazillions of gazillions of years that we

came into existence, that like there's this theory, not this theory, but this idea that like the universe has created consciousness in a way as we are part of the universe has created consciousness in a way, as we are part of the universe, to observe itself. So to see, to be a conscious mind, and to look and feel as if you are quite and quite separate from the universe, which of course you're not. You are of it, you are part of it. You are not, it only becomes terrifying

if you're so obsessed with being this locked off, I am a singular thing that is separate to what is around me. Whereas if you are part of it, then your existence is a continuation of it. But your consciousness in observing that crystalline, loving that crystalline, enjoying the things that you do, or not enjoying, or just experiencing these things that didn't have meaning before there was a consciousness to give meaning to them. That's quite fabulous. If you consider that, that is something that... Yeah, it's a way for this giant, seething everything to look on itself. And like the things that you value or you take like enjoyment from are just like this funny, weird thing looking in on itself, you know? And I find that like, if you then dispense with the idea that anything matters and start

tomorrow as day one of like, okay, nothing matters. Now I'm going to decide based on arbitrary rules, not morals put on from high from a God or anything, or what someone else tells you should matter. But like what you decide matters and I'm going to enjoy and bring myself pleasure and live my life and try and enjoy as much as possible. Then just decide on that. Pick that.

So this makes me think of like, like plants and like amphibians and stuff that like, you know, like how some amphibians don't like, they just absorb it through their skin? Yes. That's what that makes me think of. Go on. Because like... Okay, why does it make me think of that? It started getting really deep for a second there. Well, the amphibians are...

Don't worry, I'm bringing it out of the depths. It made me think of this. Why did it make me think of this? But why? Because like... Are you saying that your experiences are like absorbing water through your skin? Well, no, I think it's like, you think that everything drinks through like their mouths, but not everything does. Or like, you know, like plants that absorb, like don't have to be in a substrate. They can just like live.

Yeah. You know? I do be like that. But what you're trying, it's what you're saying that like the, the, the drive we have to make sense of our existence is like drinking, but you could live your life in a way that is much more ambient. Yeah. Because like not everything does drink. Exactly. Indeed.

And not everything is aware of, of it's, you know, kind of placed in the grandest scheme. Well, a rock will exist even if it doesn't know that it exists. Yeah. It's not capable of such a thing. Well, even like lizards, I don't think have much of an awareness of whether they're lizards. Someone asked me the other day, who was it?

Was it you, Crone? I don't know. Did a jellyfish aware that they're, that they exist? I know that that was a really rude question to ask. Obviously, no, I would never ask that question. I'm not a crone. I haven't been to space. Who asked me that? You know, witches are only made in the heart of space.

If you asked me that, that came me out for probably two to three nights this week. But that's the thing. Isn't that fabulous? Oh, yes. I just think I mean, like, to be honest, like, the only solution if you're listening to this, having an existential crisis, my advice to you is sometimes you need to enjoy, as Fierro said, the unexamined life for a moment and go and do something profoundly shallow.

You know, whether it is getting physical with your hands, having sex, eating a delicious meal, doing something, watching the nanny. Honey, nothing will make you feel better, because you need to like, zoom out. And also, like, I think so much of that existential crisis is about the ego. And like, it's about you feeling like, I need to live forever in order for it to be valuable or for it to have meaning or for, you know, whatever. Yes. And if you just be like, who the fuck am I?

I'm just a piece of shit. Doesn't matter. Like let your ego die and say it doesn't matter. Yeah. Who gives a shit? Well, it's interesting because I completely agree with that. I'm like, I don't need like, I don't need a legacy. Like if I die and everything evaporates of my existence, that's fine with me. Like I'm not.

Which is obviously impossible because the listeners of this show will be immortal. But yeah, and, but that's not to say that I don't want to make impact. Like if anything, yeah, I don't know. I mean, but that's the thing. It's like, you think about the people that made impact. Marie Curie, she died from her impact. Katie Perry, she died from her impact. Hitting it back on to her.

No, I just, I'm like, yeah. I don't know, but I wonder if- But it's like, you need to invent your own reason. Oh yeah. I think that's the thing. And that's why, like, I think, you know, outside of obligation and whatever, the thing that's so exciting and tempting about religion is that it's like, oh, someone's already done the homework for me.

That is what I was going to say. It's like when you find religion, you subscribe to a set of rules and morals and boundaries to give the world and your place in it. Meaning, yeah, if you are too stupid or afraid to do it yourself. Yeah. Yeah. I just can't do that. But I also I'm like, I think that's, I mean, for me, the kind of versions of religion that have resonated and spirituality that have resonated the most with me are where it's kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we have all these doctrines and these ideas and these thoughts and the kind of like, like, you know, whatever, but it's really just about the ways

in which it codifies behavior to bring people together. Like I think that, you know, like in Judaism, the things that you see expressed of like Shabbat dinner or whatever is like you layer on the meaning for that, which is kind of, has its roots in the Torah or whatever, I don't know, in Judaism, but then the result, the end result is just that you have a reason to come together with your family every Friday night and not use any technology, not use any lights, you know, whatever, and eat a meal. And I'm like, that is amazing.

Totally. Like codifying that behaviour and protecting that ritual is amazing. And that the end result is like, I don't know, togetherness. And I think that that's why humans crave more than anything. And if it creates a kind of shared understanding of like, we're going to do this on this time, blah, blah, blah. I think just because I grew up without it, I have invented other ways of doing that, like making a podcast. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I think that's why I like have a place in my heart that respects, and I think I've said this on the podcast before, but respects like meat in cuisine because it is tied to like a rich cultural history of all locations on earth. And that diversity is so interesting and beautiful and should be respected and should live on. So like, yeah, it's like not something that I want to engage with

for my own personal reasons, but it's like that creating and facilitating spaces for, yeah, culture to be lived in or people to come together to share things is like a beautiful thing that I wouldn't want to see erased by like, you know, it's just not the same if you replace all of that culture with tofu. Yeah. Dehydrated soy.

What about impossible burger? Oh, true. Um, the other thing I'll say is that at this training, we work at a power tool company, right? Right. Um, Ryobi, um, Oh, sorry. I shouldn't have said that. Oh, cut that.

Make sure we cut that. Um, is that we did all these like throughout the two days, like all these different, like activation games or like, you know, da da da da. And one of them was so like the person who was like leading the training was like, OK, everyone, make a little like bunny ears with your left hand and with the right hand, make a gun and then we're going to like point the gun at the bunny and the bunny is going to run away and like hop away and you've got to follow it with the gun. Sorry? And then turn the gun hand into the bunny hand and then the bunny into the gun and go back the other way.

And keep doing that until you're like hand coordination, like until you stuff up and you can't remake the bunny into the gun and da da da da. What the fuck? Yeah. But so everyone at my table sat there in delight making these little fucking bunny guns. And I sat there and I was like, I'm actually not doing that. God, you're so annoying. I was like, this makes me feel really uncomfortable. I was like, I'm sorry, I'm not doing that. I'm not making a fucking gun out of my hand.

I'm not MIA. What was the point of the exercise? I think this is for like, instead of like patting your head and like swizzling your stomach or whatever. Swizzling. I don't think you could do it once, but also are you saying you wouldn't make, you just made a gun out of your hand like 10 times?

Yeah, but I hated it. I don't want to do that. In a room full of people, ew. Why do guns freak you out so much? I just don't like that. Anyway. How are you this week? I will say the one thing I'll say about those activities

is that I just went and did, I was asked by my friend Emmett to go and act in the actor director exercises at my alma mater VCA. I love Emmett. We all love Emmett, my dear friend who is a filmmaker and now works at VCA in the film department and as part of the curriculum they bring a bunch of actors in to work with first-time directors on like a scene from a script that they're working on or something they've written bespoke for the

day. And they just try and teach them about the kind of do's and don'ts of directing actors, which, you know, it's not like set thing, but there's like definitely some good, you know, hygiene to the entire experience that directors definitely need to know before they get on set for their actual projects. But some of the actors had gotten sick or whatever, and so it didn't seem like they were going to be able to return for the third week that they were doing this. Sorry, I poisoned them. Yes, I killed them all.

And then I guess off the back of our incredible turn in He, She, They said, what, our improv night? I was just top of mind for Emma. And he said, would you please come and do this? And I was like, I'm not really an actor, Emma. And he was like, but it pays $78 an hour. What? You know what? I think I am an actor.

I think I am an actor. And so then I went and I had a director in the morning and a director in the afternoon and we were in this like large cavernous, fluorescently lit room and the director gives me the script in the morning and they say, which role resonates with you more, alien or robot? And they'd written this script about an alien and a robot having a conversation. Fun. And the robot is nihilistic about the fact that they're going to live forever and they have to watch all of humanity die and that they're tethered forever to earth in this way. And alien has seen the entire universe and is like, bitch, calm down.

It's fine. The alien called the robot a bitch. Well, in my rewrites, but, um, we started by doing these like exercises like, and it was, thank God we'd just done Hishi. They said what? Where we did a lot of drama games in the leader because I was really primed for this And it was, thank God we'd just done Hishi, They Said What, where we did a lot of drama games in the lead up because I was really primed for this experience

of it being like 10 in the morning. And they were like, now you have to make a gibberish noise and the other person has to repeat it back to you and then you do it at the same time. So I'm there, it's 10 in the morning in this like neon lit room and I'm there, it's 10 in the morning, in this neon lit room and I'm going, Ha shi ma na na ho ha na. And then the person's like,

Ha shi ma na na ho no ha. And then we're repeating that, and then the director's like, now we're gonna go through an invisible obstacle course. The person in front of you has to act out what they're going over, and then you, the follower, have to act out going over it. And like we're going through this whole thing and then it's like now staring into each other's eyes for like minutes. Just staring and like really close. Yeah. Anyway, it was just a

very like, it was really good. It was like an amazing Experience, but I just act acting is so crazy. I just can't believe people do that. It's too it's a lot. Mm-hmm What is your key takeaway like as an alien? No. Well, yeah, go on As a direct like what should directors not do with actors? As a director, like what should directors not do with actors? There's a big taboo around giving line readings. So like, if you want to act... Don't say it like that. Say it like this.

Like, don't open the door. And they're saying like, don't open the door. And you say, don't open the door. That's how I want you to say it. Like, that's not really helpful. So you want to prod them to find what you're looking for. Exactly. You know what you're looking for. Why can't you just say what you're looking for? I think like some actors will say, listen, just give me the line reading. Yeah. Just tell me what it is. Because I actually don't want to sit here and play psychology. They're not actors. They're my mimics. That's right. Well, I mean, also, I think it's like, that's great,

but it doesn't really help you if you're like, if if you're doing ad and you need it said a certain way, like it's male-borific, then just tell me how you want it said, because it's not like, we can't mind the inner world of this character anymore. It's a fire sale. We're having a fire sale? But like, yeah, you don't want to do that if you're doing like a whole film with someone because like you want them to be able to know how this character acts even when the script runs out or the camera's still rolling or whatever.

What does that character say when they go to Safeway? Exactly. And I mean, a lot of that's really annoying. And I also find that bullshit. I think a lot to me of good acting comes from giving them real physical stakes and things to play. I think a doing can unlock a lot of stuff for actors because if you're standing in a room saying, Greg, I didn't wanna be here, I didn't wanna come to this, blah, blah, blah, you just say that standing in a doorway.

I don't think it's as dynamic or interesting. And sometimes it's better if you say, OK, so what you're going to do is you're going to walk into the room. You're looking for your keys. Then you're going to find your keys. You're going to put them back in the bowl. And then you're going to run to the, like, then you're going to go to the fridge and pull out a lean cuisine,

stab it with a fork, and put it in the microwave. And like, even if that's not what you end up going with, as soon as you've gotten the actor to stop thinking about the line and what they're trying to play, because a lot of actors, particularly in Australia, and I don't know why this is, I mean, I guess it's because there's a lot of theater, is they'll take a line and it'll be like,

it should just be casual, saying, oh, it should just be casual, whatever. Whereas you shouldn't announce it, it shouldn't be the most articulate thing you've ever said, you shouldn't put space on either side of it because people tend to talk over each other a lot naturally or do what you're doing now, like throwing in like, mm, yeah, oh, because we like,

it's a way that we listen and talk to each other. But when actors talk into a script, they'll be like, I don't know why you did that. Greg, I don't want to be here anymore. And they'll stop and wait for the other person to say their line. And they'll listen to it in a way that is like, they've never listened to anything more

in their entire life. Whereas most of the time people are at like 60, 40, listening, not listening. And kind of never sound and comment. And people don't treat like, you know, people stop themselves and start themselves and they have weird little speech elements. And like, if you're trying to achieve something that feels natural and real, you want there to just be a lot of stuff piled onto that. I don't want to be here anymore. Like Jeff Coblue. Exactly. You want there to just be a lot of stuff piled onto that actors

Like Jeff Coblin exactly But you know without it becoming too ticky. Yeah But yeah fun and that was the way that's my thing for new directors. Obviously. I'm a new director. So Watch this all change. I also think if you cast correctly in a film context, your work should be done. What do you think about them awarding casting? Oh, they should. Interesting. Oh my God, yes.

Like I'm not disagreeing, but I just think that's interesting. Jokes in the pussy cast? Interesting role, okay. Yeah. What a perfect cast. Oh, but like, right? Like what a talent to find the person who can tap each and every character.

I also love those casting directors who like put people in their back pocket and they're like, like, sorry, this isn't right for you. But will come when I find the project that you're going to be grateful for. And I loved, I think as well, as soon as you say like not every actor should play every role, do you know what I mean? Like the Johnny Depp thing of like Johnny Depp was like, I'm a chameleon. It's like, no, you just play weirdos.

Like that's your thing. But I think that kind of convinced people that actors, like particularly for film, should be doing everything. Whereas if you cast correctly and you know the kind of baseline energy of an actor, then you can put them in the role where there are fundamental core things about themselves

that they cannot change, that will just come out on screen, that will be like, it will seem like incredible acting because they'll just be there in the right role. Do you know? Yeah. Like Samuel L. Jackson. Yes.

Like fiction. Exactly. I heard that Tarantino, he really, he like begged Tarantino to be in reservoir dogs. Oh, really? And then he was like, no, no, no time will come. And then he was like, I'm literally writing something for you right now. You'll know Samuel L. Jackson from Jurassic Park. I think what that reminds me of is like, why I was so frustrated with the first episode of

the acolyte with Carrie Anne Moss, because like her Jedi was this like, like in this like scene that was like kind of Kung Fu-y and like da da da da. And there was a lot of that in Star Wars, but it was really overt in a way that it's not normally. And it was like, she is more than an action star because, like, I mean, I'm sure she's been in other fabulous projects, but I loved her in the Netflix era Marvel shows. She was in a couple and da da da da.

Because she was playing like a lawyer or whatever, and she did it really, really well. It was like, don't like like, at the same time, like some actors are more diverse and can tap different things. Yeah. So that's so fun to see that. And I loved seeing her in that. And then to see her like tokenized in this fucking Star Wars project

was so depressing. Her character wasn't a character in the TV series. It was just Carrie Amos. Yes. It was like, you love seeing her in an action setting. Here she is. Play yourself. Boom.

It was like throwback to the nostalgia of Matrix. Yeah. Which is just so young. It's really transparent when people cast actors just for their name or their what they've done previously. And indeed the stronger scenes of her in that series were the later ones where they were like flashbacks to just her kind of like interviewing and talking to other characters, not in action scenes. Because I think she actually has great delivery and a really intense

look and she's like really enchanting. Um, also can do action obviously, but yeah, well that's, I mean, that's the Wachowski's casting of her was like, interesting at the time. Yeah. Yeah. Um, love it. I have one more thing to say is that I went to, um, oh, what fun. These are great. Um, I went to Avatar live orchestra.

Avatar as in The Last Day of Bender, not the Navi. Thank God. Which was so cute. Did you enjoy it? Silk, friend of the pod, secured me tickets. Thank you, Silk. And I took my friend from work, Belle. Thank you, Belle.

It was so cute. Like it's been a while since I've been to one of those things. I've been to like a Zelda one and I've been to a Final Fantasy one. That's your Zelda. I am, yes. And it was so cute. I love being in those big rooms with fucking nerds who were so into it.

It was so cute. And did you cry? Oh mama, I started crying 30 seconds in. And then like when we got really into the IRO stuff, like I was just like... That's sweet. Hit together. It was really, really nice. And what I will say is that Avatar

doesn't have like the most profound soundtrack of all time I would say. There's some themes that you're like, oh yeah that is from the show. But a lot of them were just like beautiful showcases of, I don't know well composed music. But it's not like, um, you know, like Jurassic Park or Star Wars or something where it's like,

Oh, John Williams knows that huge themes. Yeah. Or even like Zelda and Final Fantasy, like they have really iconic themes and, and recurring things and like Avatar does in a way, but not as strong, which I still feel that having gone to a does in a way, but not as strong, which I still feel that having gone to a two hour orchestra version, but it was just a really fabulous like put together show and it was really sweet. That's really a lot.

Well, you also very tired. I'm sorry. I just received an email from Tom Noble, friend of the pod, who was sending me the headshots that he was kind enough to take of me and my producers, Annie and Lauren. And God damn, I should never wear this white shirt again. I look fucking insane. Oh, show me too, please. I really cannot.

Come on. Some of these are great. Thank you, though. Tom, I just, why did I wear this shirt? And how can I kill myself? You look good in a white shirt. Just put some tint on it in Photoshop. The tint ain't taken but taint.

Anyway, shall we find out how the world ends this week? Now, how long have we been rolling, man? 63 minutes. Jesus Christ. That's good. We've got up to 64 right now. That's how long this ever intro. 64.

Okay, let's just go with that. The year is, I don't know, whatever year, the GameCube is gonna come out. To start off this end of the world, we've transported back in time. Alternate timelines. Yeah. And someone said, you know what, I don't want to live in a world where the Nintendo 64 isn't the baseline Nintendo offering. I'm not ready or interested in the GameCube. I'd like my three pronged controller. Thank you very much.

And they sent a bomb to the center of the planet and blew it up. They sent a bomb? Who was this person? His name was Declan. And why did he have access to a bomb and a means to deliver it to the core of the Earth? Uh, it's quite well connected. Oh, to whom? To, uh, uh, several governments. Which ones? Oh, I'd hate to bore you with the details. We must proceed. Well, so, yes.

But I believe Declan felt some kind of way about being 64 minutes into the episode. Sounds like it. Couldn't he just blow up Nintendo? Well, in a way, he did. Well, thank you, listener. That's been the episode. We'll be right back as we start this week's proceeding. Turn it out. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh k k k welcome back listener now hello so you're to you listener now now to begin this segment we have an Oh, should have been an email.

And I shall read it now. Thusly. Hi, Celestial Goddesses, Matt and special guest name. No special guest this time. The special guest was our love, which results in anxiety. Oh. My anxiety. Bravè divas on last week's improv gig.

What was that? She said bravè. Bravè? Yeah. Bravè. Is that like, it's like brava. I guess, no, because we're like gals. Is that the fem fem?

Oh no, bravo. Brava. Bravè. Bravè. Maybe because we're like multiple divas, but as an Italian, I don't think that's correct. It's like octopi. But I don't know. Anyway, let's not critique the listener at this point. On last week's improv gig, I pissed myself during the prompt, girl trying to convince Bouncer she's not drunk,

at Lacey's hard turn from playing drunk patron to drunk bouncer, chef's kiss. It's a plural for bravo. Okay. Zelda. I loved you as Miralei Matthew, which I Googled and probably didn't pronounce that correctly, but it is in fact a songstress who had the same haircut that I was wearing at the improv gig.

That's good. And for those of you who aren't there, the, um, the young girl from pen 15 who has the bowl cut. Yes. And then special guest name. You also did great in event where you did activity at place. Yes. Yes. Yes.

And now my sentiment, I'm sorry, my segment suggestion. Yes. We know nothing bonds stronger than a shared enemy. What is the bunker's public enemy? Number one, in love, the listener in love with us. No, public enemy number one? In love. The listener. In love with us? No, it was the email signed in love.

In love with who? It was sent in love. In love. Sent with love. In love with who? The listener? Bravi. The Bravi.

Brav. The Navi. What is? The enemy. Yeah. Which enemy? Do you have any enemies? The enemy. Yeah. What? Which enemy? Do you have any enemies?

Public enemy number one. Oh. Matt, do you have any enemies? Um, just those bullies that always tease me when I get off at the bus. Bullies? He's telling a story. Now you're getting into fiction. Okay. I, so years ago, I do feel like, so listener, if this is you, sorry, but there

was this like, so the longest time of my life, I've always had like long hair, right? I haven't had long hair for a few years now, but for like all my twenties, I had long hair. And there was this divatronic faggot who is friends with like, like the Sam of the world, like the gays. Yeah. It's like in that realm, which I really don't know you. Like I don't even know your name. We've never spoken, but I've, but I haven't seen him as much in the last few years. But sometimes I see him on like Instagram photos in like the background of some of my friends. And he used to go to the same kind of events that I would go to. And we were both the tall faggot with long hair. And there was this, at least in my mind, I felt like we were nemesis.

Oh, look at me. Like it was your Maggie unibrow baby. Yes. Bizarro world. You think he was you? No, but just like we can't both be here. We both fitting the same. Parked in the same spot.

Yeah. Although like very different, like dress sense, not in a good or bad way, but like I would never wear what that faggot was wearing. Do you think he thinks about you? I do. Surely. Right? Right?

But I wonder because like I'd love to have this conversation with him one day and it will be like, I've never met you in my life. He'll be like, I've thought about him for 15 years. Yeah. So that's my public enemy number one. Well, you've been called out and I think that's probably a great place to start. I think as well, I like, I like an enemy that is someone that may or may not know. Yeah.

I used to have an enemy like that actually. There was this girl, but this was like a woman 15 years ago. And I just started playing gigs, like with bands and stuff on violin. And she also played violin in other bands too. Oh my God. She was just so annoying. And I was always so annoyed at her when I saw her. What was her genre of annoying?

Like Pixie fairy kind of girl. She one time. Send it to space. One time. I'm already annoyed. The thing that really got me one time was that I was at a gig with her. She was playing in another band. I was playing in my band or whatever.

And then we were watching the last band and she was in the crowd, but she was actually wearing fairy wings in this gig. And she- She turns out she was a 12 year old. I hated her. And then she somehow like the crowd like moved and she ended up right in front of me and her fairy wings kept poking me in the face, like the whole gig. How big were these fabulous wings? They were like made of wire and like nylon, you know?

Yeah. But like, were they like protruding above and beyond? Like how was she adjacent to the stage and hitting you? She was like, she just kept, I kept like moving away from her, but she kept hitting me in this face with me. Matt, I think she had a crush on you. Yeah. She didn't know that I was there.

I kept like, and that's why I think maybe she didn't know that she was my enemy, but I always kind of. Wait, is this interaction? Annoyed at her whenever I saw her. Oh, so more than one time. There were lots of times that I saw her. Yeah. But that was the clincher.

And I felt like she was stealing my gigs too. Like she was like my competition. Yeah. I think, do you think she'd produce a podcast if we asked her? I don't know if she's alive still. Well, time makes fools of us all. And fairy wings sometimes. Although that does remind me of Drew Barrymore in Ever After, where she has those fantastic

fairy wings. What about the contest to long crave with my mother? What about the diva behind the fish tank in that movie? Claire Danes. Yes. She wore wings. In that movie. Her name's Juliette.

Okay, sure. You know what I'm talking about. Showing one of the most famous female protagonists in all the western canon. Yeah, that fabulous fish tank. That is a good fish tank. It's so good. Also the most important, like, use of a fish tank. Wrong.

When? Perfect Blue. Have you not seen Perfect Blue? Where she's the pop star. Yeah. Why didn't we talk about her during that? I know. Fact fiction musician.

I was waiting for you to bring it up and I was like, why didn't you bring up Perfect Blue or whatever? I love that movie. Well, apparently not at all. Not to the top of mind. And I can't remember everything. Or anything. Yeah, I love that movie. Well, apparently not at all. Not to the top of mind. I can't remember everything. Or anything. Yeah, I love that fish tank. I do think that none of those fish were my enemy.

Do I have enemies? I definitely have enemies. I have people that have wronged me, but I try not to put energy into them. I think you're good at that. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, I think it's because in my teen years, we're so like, you know, gossip girl. Like we were such like, like, by the time I got to like year 11 and 12, I was like, you know what, I can't, I can't be doing all this mess.

Oh no. Of like massive blowout arguments. Oh. Screaming matches. I have never had an argument. Yeah, no, it's too much to have an enemy. Yes. Um, what about like, not being, not a funny bit, but like, what's a broader enemy?

Like broader, well, time, time, time. I mean, an enemy, an enemy and an enemy. An enemy in a rock. Dr. Evil. Yeah, I guess there's villains, but we've covered villains. Oh, we did villains. I think the thing about an enemy, the thing about an enemy is that they're not necessarily perceived by society as bad.

They are only to you an issue. Like I wouldn't say that Dr. Evil is an enemy. He's a villain. He's a villain to all that walk in the light. Sauron is not an enemy, he's a villain. Whereas an enemy is someone that like, do you know someone who's explaining recently on a podcast, they were like, you know it's a real enemy when you're trying to explain the reason

you fucking hate that person? You start talking and then you're like, actually wait, I can't explain this You know it's a real enemy when you try and explain the reason you fucking hate that person. You start talking and then you're like, actually wait, I can't explain this because it makes me sound crazy. Like when I called that guy a what? Faggot. Yeah. Yeah.

And when Matt was talking about that innocent young girl who's probably dead of a drug overdose. Like you know, it's like you are explaining something. You're like, I can't explain this pettiness that I feel about this person, but I really fucking hate them. Yeah. Like they're just, they've got their agenda. They're living their life. But, but you, it's, it's, it's at odds with your life.

Yeah. Exactly. It really makes your blood boil. Enemy. Enemy. Looking at someone from a fire and knowing that you'll just never get along. I just hate this person.

I used to have like, I mean like obviously there was my enemy of that guy. Actually that is my only, I've talked about it in the pod before, but this like straight man that worked at one of our clients who like got us blackballed. Oh yes. When I was doing advertising and I fucking hate that guy. And if I like, to the extent that like, I would like invent a scenario in my brain,

thinking about like how I could, you know, like one day claw my way into a position of power in order to kind of wreak havoc on his life. Like I would love to be at like a VV VIP party and then have, you know, like he comes to the front with his like girlfriend and group of friends and like I'm there, you know, and he's like, oh, can I get in, can I get in? And then I like am there and I see him and I walk up to the bouncer and he's like, Oh, can I get in? Can I get in? And then I like am there

and I see him and I walk up to the bouncer and he's like, Oh, hey, oh my God, lazy. Oh, remember we used to work together. I'm like, Oh, yes. And then I whisper something to security and he's like, can you let us in? And I was like, have an amazing night. And then I walk away and then the security turns to him and he's like, um, you won't be able to come to this party or any party ever again. And then he like throws acid in his face. And his girlfriend's like, ew, what a loser. You're covered in acid. Get out.

Yeah. Freak. There was one night when I was working at the Carlton club many years ago and someone called me a faggot and I got security to kick them out. That's so good. That was good. Ruined their night. Yeah.

And yeah. What I just remembered was, because I thought you were going to go into Public Enemy Number One being the person that runs that bar with the trivia and no drink on arrival. Which is probably where we're going to land. Brenda went back and did trivia there recently, try and find out where this is. And I was like, did you get a DOA? And she's like, actually, yes, I did get a DOA. And I was like, okay, well, they've obviously heard.

What? My influence. My- That's why I can die. It made the world a better place. True. My additional to that, listener, you probably know this, but a lot of aquarium um, aquarium retailers who have like online stores, which I don't know how I just never put this together, but I was looking at some fish and shrimp this week and then I was like, oh my God, how have I not talked about this? But so many of them will have policies around DOA if you're purchasing livestock

policies around DOA if you're purchasing livestock online, which stands for dead on arrival. Like the various like guarantees or caveats or whatever. I thought it was quite funny. Yeah. Which like obviously like there's also like Dead or Alive, like the video game series also like Carly Valance in that terrible movie. But yeah, dead on arrival. Yeah. And you hate that they have an allowance for that.

One? No, I would never put this online. That's quite... Because like, also... It's cruel. Well, yes. Although like, is it? They have to get shipped to the aquarium. Yeah, they definitely like... Baby, things get shipped around. I was listening to a podcast this week about how China own all pandas on

The planet which is true the Chinese government and they rent them out to zoos across the world Sure, and like even the babies are like But like indeed like pandas get shipped around the world and You know things get shipped. So that's not intrinsically evil, but, um, indeed, robbing yourself of the joy of going to an aquarium and smelling all that stale carpet and picking out your fish, that's evil. So you never buy online. It's like doing calls online, dog online and it just shows up one day in a box.

Yeah. And that's like, it's like when you buy, yeah, Coles or Woolies online or whatever. And like, you know that some shitty like 16 year old boy has gone through and like picked an avocado that I would have like never touched in my life. Yes. Or like farmers director, whatever. And you're like, this is the devil's bucket. Like I would never pick any of these things.

And like they're going to do that with the neon Tetris as well. And also if you like were like blind and you didn't realize that you'd picked, like, yes, you can substitute. And like you wanted the red rock deli chili chips and instead you get the, I don't know, like Samoyed whatever. I'm sorry. That's not the same thing. Why would you do that to someone who is blind? Like two different things are not actually a substitute for each other.

No. No. I just won't have it at all. Yeah. Be a dead on arrival. Oh, they should probably change that. What? Oh, because there's already drink on arrival. Yeah, true. What's another enemy? Enemy, enemy, enemy. Enemy, enemy, enemy. Enemy, enemy, enemy. Not a frenemy. It's an enemy.

Yes. Who is enemy? Public enemy number one. Public enemy. Like, okay, so we want to teach the people of the after time in our doomsday bunker about the concept of enemies. I think it's like, I want to take this to a place where... And sorry, I will just quickly, because like, yes, the listener has indeed included Winner Nothing bonds stronger than a shared enemy. That's it.

Which is, you know, I've also seen Wicked listener. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would say I want the enemy of the bunker to be kind of like a rumor of this, like woman that is named Trish. this like woman that is named Trish.

I'm like, everyone fucking hates Trish despite the fact she doesn't live in the bunker. There's no, but like they talk about her a lot. And like, I think everyone just woke up one morning in the bunker and was like incepted with this idea of Trish Trish, the idea of Trish. Oh, we hate Trish. And it takes a while, maybe a year or two for people to kind of bring up Trish. Trish, the idea of Trish. Ugh, we hate Trish. And it takes a while, maybe a year or two, for people to kind of bring up Trish and the thing she did. But once they bring it up, it starts coming up and like, it builds on itself. It builds momentum, starts as whispers, grows to yells. People hate Trish. And I think the slight has to be, yeah, something that makes you sound crazy. And like the bad person when you express it,

you know, like I don't think it can be a valid sounding reason. Maybe Trish thinks that the Meg should be fed with like, I don't know, oceanic creatures rather than TV and film animals. Can I give an example of a slide from my past? Oh, yeah. OK. Wait, is Trisha Fager with long hair? Maybe. Actually, on that, maybe I've told this story before, but my uni boyfriend, he used to have long hair.

Yeah. And he was dating this guy, or they were fucking, but it was in France. And it was very like, back in the day, like very repressed. Ah. And the guy, they were at a party, they were like in the same social group,

but like no one knew that they were fukin'. Yeah. And then that guy who was this like kind of model looking motherfucker with long hair that was kind of like his brand, his thing, kind of like you for those, that decade. Yeah. And he shamed my ex boyfriend and who was like a metal head boy as well. And he was like made to feel bad or something in front of his group of friends in a way that was like very vindhead boy as well. And he was like made to feel bad

or something in front of his group of friends in a way that was like very vindictive and cruel. Like publicly shamed at the party. Yeah. And like they knew that they knew each other. And then they had this history that was like secret as well. And then Guy went to the kitchen,

found a pair of scissors, went back on the dance floor, danced up behind him, and cut his ponytail off. And then left the party. What? And when he told me that story, I said, there's a reason we're together. That is incredible.

It was like old school, like samurai, like shame, like, like what the fuck? That is deep psychological harm. That is so evil. Evil. That's amazing. Like this anti-social boy appearing from the mist. Oh, like, oh, you said something nasty about me?

I guess I'll just ruin your life. Cut that hair and then everyone looks and they're like, he looks even better now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So did like, was it like a moment of like, what the fuck? No, he didn't know. Oh, and then he just disappeared.

He left. But someone would have seen him do it. Yeah, for sure. That's amazing. Yeah. I never met him, did I? No, no, no. Oh But someone would have seen him do it. Yeah, for sure. That's amazing. Yeah. I never met him, did I? No, no, no.

Oh, I would love to meet him now. Yeah. I wonder what he's doing. Anyway. That is also like truly my night. Like the entire time I had long hair, I was like, someone's going to cut it off one day on the train. If only they did it with like a very slim little blade that looks like it's a letter opener.

Oh, and it must just, it just cut, it's the sharpest knife on the blade. Slow motion, and then the hair just like falls. It cascades. Yeah. And you're like, oh. And it like, when it thuds to the ground, it's a slight. Jutter. Yeah. And then they splay across the floor. Yeah, on the tram, on that crystalline floor of the tram.

But you know, thankfully you don't have anything to lose anymore. You know, you've got short hair. Yeah. You're protected. Yeah. You've been shamed. Yeah. Um, that's amazing.

Yeah. Can we put Guy in? Do you know what? I hadn't spoken to him at all for years. We had like a very like sad breakup, very like, very end of uni breakup. And actually the weirdest thing about that breakup was, it was so emotional, awful for me, terrible.

And then I had left uni and then I was traveling through America after uni and was so like cut and still hung up on the entire thing. And then I came back and one of my friends, who I'm still friends with to this day, Jake, had skipped a year, had like left school, uni for a year and had come back to film school. And I found out like people were acting weird. There was like a week where people were acting weird around me and then they were like, oh you hadn't heard about Jake's documentary.

And I was like, what? And they're like, oh yeah, his third year film was about love and breakups. And he interviewed Guy for the like documentary and we've all seen him and he's spoken about your breakup and everything in this film that was shown at ACME. And I was like, oh my God. Yeah, so rude.

And I wasn't told. You know that we do that to everyone in our lives once a week, right? Well, that's why I've become the villain. Yes. But yes anyway so but then when the thing came out about the Khan thing on my Instagram I got like a comment from Guy being like oh oh my god it's so good to see you still

making films and is that your dad in the background? Is that a public comment? Yeah. Why didn't you just send you a message? I don't know. That's great bunker behavior. I love this guy. You would love this guy. Where is he now? I think he lives by the seaside in France as a teacher. He was like a very interesting mien, like incredibly intelligent, like kind of a genius,

but bisexual. And I think, yeah, has a girlfriend now. Finalized straight. Yeah. Can't win them all. Well, you can't win any of them. I can't, sorry. One could not win any of them.

Yeah, I am obsessed with that story. Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, no, no, because that is, I think that's the thing. He has like that strong, defiant, angry nature beneath it all. Because I have that, but I would never act on it. I think that's why you would get along. Because as well, the other thing that he would do with his time is write plot languages because he was obsessed he was like a major polyglot he'd like knew like five different languages like fluently and then his other stuff was genetics in the Caucasus and was obsessed with like tracing genetic lineages of people that he knew back to the like places in the world. And he was on all these like genetic forums. Cool. Speaking of, I was going to talk about this in the intro. Okay. So like I haven't read

like any of the articles, any of them. I've barely read the titles but they're like bringing back from extinction piece. That's cool. Oh my god the one that they got what's his name from True Blood to advertise. What? The Dire Wolves? Apparently it's not real. Yeah I know but like I haven't... Apparently it's not real. We don't need to read that. Apparently George R.R. Martin cried when they told him that they named it after his character. See, that's... what? What? They did what?

Because it's Romulus and Blah, and then they named the third one Cersei or something. No. It was Romulus and Remus, wasn't it? Yeah. And then the other one... Was it George R. R. Martin? The sister who came later. I did read what they called her.

Well apparently you did, but George R. Martin who cried anyway Like cried with like embarrassment no was so like touched. Oh He's kind of great why is he wearing that ugly hat all the time? I love that That is so also like sometimes like big old nerds become famous and they just don't need to be But I also love that they like he hasn't, well, maybe a little, but like hasn't fully adapted to like, well, now I'm a celebrity. So I look like this and I do this. What do you want him to Susan Boyle? No, but like, I got platinum highlights.

He didn't do that. I think it's really great. Didn't get on the OZM deck. Instead he probably like bought another cape. I don't know. Darling, the capes are plentiful. Yes. Yeah.

I like that. I do like that. He also really lounges during interview and I also enjoy that. They keep putting those low couches on like Q&A stages. Also, speaking of the improv night, the betrayal of those fucking chairs on stage for us to sit on when not activated,

they were so low. Low couches. I don't know what, because it's gotta be high stools. Give me a high stool. I'm wearing a corset. Yeah. You're crazy. Well, you know, I did this photo shoot, chat up to chains.

Chain? Chain. Sorry, not chains, chain. I love chains. Which chain gets sorry. It was a master's student who asked me to do an interview and photo shoot, which was lovely. Called chain. Yeah. Like the person.

Yeah. That's so cool. And, um, it's from Thailand and, um, and they, originally when we were doing the photo shoot, I walked in and there was essentially what was like the couch version of a yoga mat. Like it was that low to the ground. And they're like, you sit on there and we'll photograph you and your interview.

And I'm like, that's so nice, but I don't know. And then I like attempted to sit on it and they watched me sit on it for like 10 minutes and they're like, no, let's see if we can find something else. And then they found like, I want you to imagine like a psychiatrist's daybed that you might lie back into, but it's like sculpted into the shape of a body in repose.

So it's got like a kind of, like it looks like a graph going up. Yes. Okay. And so, but it's got like a kind of, like, it looks like a, like a graph going up. Yes. Okay. Yes. And so, but it's got cowhide, like tan cowhide leather. And I sat on that and it was still like very like, I looked insane sitting in that. But I don't know if it was an improvement is my point.

Maybe that's my enemy, that couch. What I love at some train stations is the like mid level pole on the wall. If you just like lean up against. Lean on it. That is so hard. Can I say something happening? Sometimes like, you know, like you can be with someone for a while and you're like, oh, we're so in sync, simpatico. We are, you know, we, we, we really deeply understand each other. And then they'll do something and you're like, there is a stranger in my life.

And I went to the city recently on public transport with my husband, Kierdjen, and, um, we got on the train. No. So the train is arriving at the train station. And I want you to imagine it, choose your own adventure. Okay, so I'm going to ask you, trains pulling up. We are at the very end of the train. Yep.

On your left. We are on the train or we're on the platform? We're on the platform. Oh yeah. On your left is carriage number one, option number one. Yes. And the equal distance to both doors. On your left, it looks to be like maybe 12 rowdy boys and their girlfriends sat in separate

booths and clearly on a night out. I know them well. Yes. And they're all kind of sprawled across all the different pods and compiled. And they're loud. Yeah. And you also like this straight lads, you guys. Yeah.

And girls who look a bit like they don't have gay male friends. Yes. Yeah. So you're tempted to go in that carriage because the guys are probably quite hot. And then, you know better than the other carriage. Yeah. Empty bar for one woman sitting on her own. Yeah. Which do you choose? I choose the front end of the second carriage so I can still look at the hot

guys through two panes of glass. Let me tell you, these guys were not hot. Okay. They look like they had hot friends. Yes. But those friends were out at the foot of the... They were already at the other event. Anyway, so I am being led, like Khajans like picking, so he walks ahead into the carriage with all those people.

Now, once you get into that carriage the other half is empty but the legs of those people are crossing over the aisle in all kinds of ways. And then there's like maybe your train dying. And then there's like the priority seating which is empty and then three booths up to where those people are sitting that are all empty. Oh my God. Where does he sit? Directly behind the people.

Directly. I'm looking back to that one woman sitting alone in her heaven carriage. And I'm imagining the fabulous quiet time. Because as well, like these people, and I think that he thought like, cause like when we like, I was like sat there in silence, like, and he was trying to like talk to me and be like, I was like, I just, I need to just need to shut down this experience right now because anything could happen. I grew up on the Belgrave line.

I understand how to mitigate risk. Yes. And he, I think when I got off the train, I was like, I cannot believe you set us behind those people. And then he was like, what do you mean? It's a Friday night, it's not going to be unsafe. I'm like, unsafe? You think I was worried about grievous bodily harm?

They could have talked to us. They could have said, so how's your night? What are you guys up to? Imagine, imagine. 10 minutes, stab me. I will be stabbed. You prefer to be stabbed. Blood.

What are you guys up to? At least then I get to press the emergency button. If they just say like, oh, what do you guys think of my girlfriend's top? I can't press the emergency button. If they just say like, oh, what do you guys think of my girlfriend's top? I can't press the emergency button for that, but God damn it, I should be able to. Like this is awkward. Kill me.

It was awful. I'm sorry I told that story, Kiergen. I know he's gonna listen to this. He's gonna be mad. This is one of those betrayals that he talks about. But listen, I've gotta be so real. That man I've never met before in my life. Why would he sit there?

He hasn't like, I think he has like an outlook sometimes that is like not cynical. It's so weird. It's so weird. Well, do you know what, as well, because when we arrived to the theater, we were going to see a friend of my dad's comedy show. Oh. And we got to the theater, we're going to see a friend of my dad's comedy show. And we got to the theater, quote unquote, it was like the, you know, you know where we were when we did Comedy Fest? Yeah. Like a room like that, like a hotel, like convention suite or whatever.

They've just put like chairs in. Anyway, so we get to the theater and then we walk in and we're like me and my sister and my dad and Kurjan. And there is like sparse seating, pretty much like 30 rows, like no, 20 rows back. There is the whole front row is clear, but then everywhere down from there, there's like clumps of two,

like, but not enough for four. And then at the very back, there's like clumps of two, like, but not enough for four. And then at the very back, there's like a few seats left. And like immediately I'm like, let's just sit in the front. It's polite to just take that front row. And then Kurjan is like, no, we'll just ask these people to move. What? And my sister looks at me and she's like,

who the fuck is this stranger that you've put me into? She's like, we do not ask people to move. They can see us and they can move if they want. And Kierntje's like, no, we'll just walk over and ask them and say like, hey, there's four of us, can you please move, bestie? He would say bestie. And my sister was like, are you a sociopath?

You don't ask people to fuck, we don't talk to these people. We go into this situation, wait for the lights to dim, pray that it's over soon, and then go home without having to collide with the general public. I mean, she was the lucky one, wearing a wig and a different disguise. That's right, alias. Oh, alias.

Anyway, so that was interesting. Watching. Because then, like, you know, he'll try and explain things waiting for my sister to agree with him. Yeah. You know, be like, isn't it crazy how Robbie's like this? And then she's like, no, that sounds like that sounds perfectly sane, you psycho. Okay.

I am so glad that we have landed on our public enemy number one. I mean, Trish is in. That mystery is in. Guy is also in. But the true public enemy number one is indeed a group of rowdy boys on a train. What the actual fuck? You terrify everyone around you. That is it.

Like, if they went to therapy, they would admit that they were afraid of each other. Yeah. Girlfriends are afraid of them. Yes. Like they're all ashamed of each other. Everyone's scared. No one wins. Do you know who's not scared?

If there's a group of 20 something year old men coming back from the footy being rowdy, there's Gatorade spilled down the aisle. They're drunk. The only thing that tops that is a group of 50 something men getting on and being loud too. All right, boys. Oh, and their skin's really red because they've drunk so much alcohol. Ew.

Why is that? Ew. And it's like leathery, leathery skin. Oh, and you know, their hands are aged from the sun. And like three of them are like, you know, rotund men in their 50s, but then one is mysteriously very willowy and tall. Yes.

Why is he like that? I don't know. Because he's a mammal. Yeah. Oh. Reptiles and mammals? No, no, middle-aged man in Lycra. Oh.

Like a cyclist. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He goes like 120k's on the weekend. That's probably a good enemy as well. Oh my God. When they all stop at a cafe, like a beachside cafe on the middle of their trip. See, this is actually a shared thing,

because I'm from the hills and you're from the peninsula. Yes. We both have a shared understanding of how annoying cyclists are. Yes. This ain't the tour de France, honey. No. And then you sit in the cafe and just order like the most annoying orders and then baby has to bring your helmet off.

Now you're not going to get knocked off the footpath. Why don't you have a fabulous like, you know, gown to put over that. Also that disgusting lump on your lower back that has your valuables in it? Yes. Get fucked. Put a basket in the front of that bike, you freak. Yes. Why is there not a cute basket with fresh tulips from the tulip farm?

Correct. Why is your bell not a little ring ding? Why aren't there little clackers on the spokes of your bike? And also how much faster do you need to be? Oh, what is the rush? What is the rush? Aerodynamics, Steve, baby. I hate.

Yeah, well that's true. Well, those men, eight of them, their sons and the men in their 40s on a train. Yeah, wait, two groups? I think so. Yeah. You have to have the bike cyclists. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Are the girlfriends getting in? No, they're fine. We love them. They're amazing. Okay. Gosh, I'm worn out by that.

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Which firework is going into the bunker? I thought you'd never ask. What does that even mean? What does it mean? Now I presume, I'm going to go in with some presumed knowledge, but just in case, I'm going to lay it out for you. We as a species on this planet have all sat down on the couch and brought up a YouTube video of some crazed American who went to Costco and bought 74 different types of fireworks

and indeed has lined them all up in an abandoned field and has set them off one by one. Well, he's waiting for some of them because it's actually too bright for some of them. It is. And they need to be highlighted by the night sky. And one by one sets them off to delight us, the viewer. Now I know that we've all watched these videos, right? And so therefore we're all primed for this conversation. I suppose...

Would you like to hear the different types? I would love to hear that. Okay. Would you like to hear the different types? I would love to hear that. Okay. Thank you. These are the different firework effects. I really like green color. Okay, we can get into color in a second.

I'm just talking about the style. The style of explosion. We have Brocade, which is weaving clusters within a starburst. Yes. Okay, so that was quite full. Yes. You know? Yeah. We have Willow, long cascading bursts

with stars that fall downward. They're so beautiful. Chrysanthemum. Globe shape of stars and tails directly out. The palm, long cascading stars burst with thick glittery tails. That looks like a palm. Tail follows a star or comet and may be thick or thin.

So it's like a, got a, looks like a shooting star. Yep. The peony, an expanding globe shaped color changing burst. Glitter, a constant flow of strobing sparkles. Fish begins as stars, but then quickly swim away from the burst. Crosshead a comment, a comment that splits it into stars with tails. Bees, many points of light that disperse into different directions. They go woo woo woo. Oh yeah. From a main central point. The pistol, a colorful central

burst of chrysanthemum or peony. But then with, you know, uncolored pieces coming off outside of that. Of course. Pearls, a multitude of bright glowing stars that dissolve. OK, this is the next one. Yeah. Strobe, a series of quick bright flickers and flashes. You know that? Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do Oh, just that. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Comet, bright stars with glittering tails. Spinner, stars that spin away from a burst in a synchronized fashion.

And then stars, a glowing ball of fire that may be many different colors. Okay. Okay. So, I love fireworks. I think that's so fabulous. Also like what I like, like being around for so long. Well, yeah, that's so fun. From China. China. I like that. Yeah. Um,

I love those descriptions being so gay. Like, and yet the culture around fireworks is so, like two things, forbidden. Forbidden. That's quite fabulous. Illegal. Like this beautiful thing that brings joy.

You can't have that. Well, you can in Darwin. Right? On the national day. Yes. I mean, can in Darwin. Right. The national day. Yes. I mean the state holiday. Whatever. Darwin day.

Okay. Gobble ghost. Um, but then like you look at the hideous packaging and the people who buy fireworks like in the States or whatever. Ball, legal, reckless pursuit. Yeah. Like. Jimmy's house on fire.

These fucking bricks of like 714... The decimator. ...rapid fire. Yeah. Sky killer. Yeah. But then when they go up into the air, it is a glittering peony. There's no escaping that.

I feel like it is kind of the Venn diagram of our interests. Yes. Everyone loves peonies, dazzling explosions in the sky. Yeah, glittering tails. Like imagine that guy drunk on a train describing his fucking firework collection to his mate. Well, that's why they have to make the packaging so butch.

Yes, but if you came down to actually describing the explosion of like glittering, you know, it's got a real sparkle tail like the picture. Yeah. Like how do you describe that? Like, you know, the like aftershock glitter, like how do you describe that without using those words? Like what's the mask way to describe the effect of fireworks? Afterburn. But like, I don't mask way to describe the effect of fireworks? Afterburn! But like, I don't know if it can be done.

And that's hilarious. It's like how the American military is like the biggest consumer of glitter, you know? Say more. I can't. I'll be killed. I can see the red laser on your temple now. They're always just thing. Public enemy number two.

I think fireworks are fabulous. But I think there is something about when faggots are disappointed by a fireworks display that is so funny. Because it's like, oh, wasn't that good this year. Sorry, what? I don't know what you were waiting for, but this is fine. This is enough. It's so far.

I even just one firework. I'm like, what a treat. You know, when you're in the outer suburbs on like Wednesday in August, and you hear a firework, it's like every day in Reservoir. Yeah. And you hear a firework. It's like every day in Reservoir. Yeah. I love the sound of fireworks. You're like imagine if I was outside,

just see that right now, even just one. Can I say something that's kind of a little bit controversial and might alienate some of our audience members? Oh! I don't want to, I'm scared now. Say it, I'll cut it out if it's too controversial. I just, like when people are like, ah, bloody fireworks, my dog's gonna go crazy at home.

Oh. I don't care. The dog won't die. I'll soon just like, sort it out. Mm. You know what I mean? What do you think about dogs biting vacuums? I love that, that's so cute.

Do you know that thing of like fixing that behavior? If you like punish the vacuum, the dogs. What? Yeah, cause they think it's part of the like, the pack. Smack the vacuum? Yeah, and they're like, stop, stop. Yeah. Then the dogs will like chill out around it.

Cause they like see that you've got the situation in hand. That is so cute. Yeah. I love. But that's like, I'm like, that wigs me out when dogs are really afraid of lightning and stuff. Idle. But that's like, I'm like, that wigs me out when dogs are really afraid of lightning and stuff. I'm like, how have we, how have you evolved to exist?

What do you mean? Yeah. What, like, what would dogs like, you know, the, the predecessors to dogs doing when there was lightning storms back in the day, they weren't piercing themselves and eating the cow. No. Wow. They're not real. Oh real oh they're just I didn't read that far um well you know what I mean I do I just am like huh what are we doing here what do you think about that Gandalf firework to turn into a fabulous dragon scared all those hobbits oh don't get real oh I just you know what the thing that pisses me off about Lord of the Rings?

Oh. The magic system. You want show. Don't tell. I'm just like, no, I just, I'm like, now you have magic? But it's a... Sometimes it's like for weasley little tricks like doing a fireworks display. And then it's like, he withholds for so long.

Yeah. And then suddenly it looks like, which is it? That's his perocative. Yeah, I know. And that's the thing. I'm like, you're so snooty. You throw up your own arse. And like, you know, the way- Whispering to moths in the night. Yes. It's like, oh, now the smoke is a ship, but like you could be using that in combat, but you're not. And now there's a ghost army? Oh, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like, pick. You know? I also just think that Gandalf's whole thing of like holier than thou. You have a few lessons to learn yourself, mister. Yeah.

Don't you love the way that he twirled in that tower? Yes. That's good. Two old men fight, two old gay men fighting. Yeah, two old gay men fighting. Oh, that is. Yes. That's good. Two old men fight, two old gay men. Yeah, two old gay men fighting. Oh, that is so good. Yeah. That's like fireworks.

Yeah. It's like on its face, very quote unquote mask. Uh huh. Medieval wizards. Yeah. But it's actually just two gay men fighting over a... Yeah. Waring cloaks.

...scooball in a very... Tall tower. Very tall tower. Yeah. With the huge rods. Yeah. Huge rods. Giant sticks.

One gnarly and one svelte. Wearing their gowns. Oh, that is so good. Yeah. Oh, I like that. Okay. Is that a firework? Um, do you ever feel? Yeah. Oh, I like that. Okay. Is that a firework? Um, do you ever feel?

Yeah. Like a plastic bag drifting through the wind. What if it's not again? Um, firework. I cry in that music video. It's so hardcore. It's good. I'm like, and that girl, does someone get in the pool because she's scared of what they're going to say about her?

I just am like, come on. And then that boy is watching his mother getting beaten by his dad, and he rushes in and pushes the dad away. Oh. Katy Perry said, stop being a little loser and defend your mom. And that's how DV works. It's because the kids aren't brave enough.

Oh my god. It's because the kids aren't brave enough. My God. That's the lesson. Okay. Nothing bad is actually happening to you. You need to go and stand up to him. Okay. So the answer is green chrysanthemum. Thank you so much.

I think I agree. Yeah. Sure. No, actually, you know what? I don't know. I liked the second one you said, whatever that was. I like that. The dappled like... Yeah.

Because that one feels like it's in a league of its own. Yes. Like I love, what do you call it? Strobe. Which is not a great name for it. That's what a straight man would call it. Strobe. Shut up. No, it's like flash bulbs from the paparazzi in the sky. Yes.

And you think it's over, but then... That is so good. When you think the's over, but then, that is so good. When you think the firework is over and then, oh my God, do you know what? Listener of the show Nikita sent me a message. She sent me a message. Okay. And I've received it out of Clare, my enemy. She sent me a message that was like, are you guys going to talk about Katy Perry going

into space? Or are you going to talk about which glue is best for an hour? So you got some suggestions for topics as well. And I said, how dare you perfectly articulate how stupid this fucking show is. And of course we're going to talk about Katy Perry. Yeah. And next week, which glue? I know what I'm going to say.

Oh, which one? No, I think. And next week, which glue? I know what I'm going to say. Oh, which one? No, I say. Oh, no, we're going to say, we're going to say. But listener, check back in next week, because we'll cover it.

Yeah. OK. Nikita. Yeah. So yes, that one. We'll do that. Do you have a color preference? We can't.

I've never seen strobe in another color. Other than? White. Yeah, I was going to say. It's color. Other than white. Yeah. I was going to say it's always, it feels white. I don't, it doesn't just feel white. It looks white. Well, I suppose it will have to be white then. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. Yeah. Do you think you feel better or worse if you lost a hand to a firework accident?

Better or worse than what? Like if you lost it to a Baker's delight thing. Like, uh, oh my God, when I worked at Bait and Sorrento, I was so scared of the fucking loaf slicer. Hundreds, hundreds of blades zigzagging back and forth to slice your bread. Cause it couldn't possibly be pre-sliced. It's terrifying. Thank you.

But would you be like, at a party and you'd be like, you felt good. That's why you, what you gave your limb for. What I think about that is that there's no way that's a clean cut. And it's firework explosion is not going to be. Do you know what though? That was what that, when I was talking about the Darwin show, when I was in Darwin for firework night, there was a clean cut because that stupid little idiot was putting fireworks into a stainless steel rod and launching it

like a rocket launcher. And the rod exploded from the heat and pressure of the fireworks, after I guess a few fabulous showings. And then the molten sharp stainless steel sliced his hand off, like surgically clean. Like because that was shot into the air. Yeah, the pipe exploded. The shrapnel cut him open. Don't you ever think about hoses in like a cyclone?

Hoses in a cyclone. Because it's gonna wrap around and strangle you like a fabulous snake. I'm not out in a cyclone. Well, I hope not. You might get strangled by a hose. Or worse, it kind of like wraps around your leg and you like a fabulous snake. I'm not out on a cyclone. I hope not. You might get strangled by a hose or worse. It kind of like wraps around your leg and you can't run away. No. You have to live through that windy weather.

That's not ideal. Yeah, no. OK. Well, so block it in. White strobe. Yeah. The power. Just quickly, the gunpowder smell afterwards. That's incredible. And it's not it's not a bad thing about fireworks. The power of the space. Just quickly, the gunpowder smell afterwards. That's incredible.

And it's not a bad thing about fireworks. No. No. No. And a good use of gunpowder. Yes. My preferred method, perhaps. But it has to be launched from the backyard in the suburbs.

Yeah. There's like that, oh my God, what was the name of that band? Oh my God. There was a band. Oh, what was it? Radiohead. God, now I have to look it up. What do you think about Nine Inch Nails doing the next Tron album? Love that.

Why is there another Tron album? Because the new Tron film's coming out. Oh, boo. OK, Aries. M83 has this song where it's like the ambient sound at the start of this track is like night, suburban night, cicadas, and then the sound of fireworks in the distance and like people. The other- It's so beautiful.

Yeah, I do like- That's very calming. The other gay thing about fireworks is that surely that the fireworks sound can only be described as a whistle. Whistle. Which like, I don't know, straight men can't say whistle too many times without being a little gay. We'll be right back. The Queen Mary. Listener? Is this our last one? The Dreamer View Listener?

Is this our last one? This is our last one. Oh my god. I can't believe we got here. We made it! We made it! What I'd love to know is which hat gets into the bunker. No hat, no play. Yeah.

Wide brim... Hat, no play. Yeah. Wide brim. Oh. Hat eludes me. Ooh. The like one that has the hands that clap when you pull a string. Or like you squeeze the little puffer in the long dangly bits. Diva what? Sorry, what?

What did you say? What did you say? That sounds fabulous. Oh. You haven't seen those like anime hats of like, I'm wearing a wolf head on my head. And when I squeeze the paws, then the ears perk up. I have seen that. Okay.

That's great. That's good. Is that different to what you say? I was talking about like hands here and they go on top of my head and they're like made out of like a plush. But then you pull a string here at your chin. Yeah. Okay.

Chiny chin chin. One of my ex-boyfriends. Bragg about it. For a really long time, had one of his social media accounts be him in like quizzical glasses and like a happy new year for insert year here, like headband hat and that has like tainted my experience of headband hats. Of like a new year hat. In the year 2000, putting on those perfect circle glasses,

being like, it does not get better than this. Make it up to you in the year. Because obviously you have the two on one side, the two circles that are the glasses. Yes. And then one of the other side of my... I was just looking into the future with terror. Yeah. Because it's never going to be this way again.

Never going to be this good. And then 2010 rolls around and you're like, a one? Honey, that's not a lens. That's not space for a lens. You're giving me chunky one that's a lens? I don't like that. No, that's not a lens. That's not space for a lens. You're giving me chunky one. That's a lens. I don't like that. No, it's bad. It feels quite nice to be in the year 2025.

That's quite a clean number. 2025. But where are you putting the glasses? Oh, not for glasses. Okay, well, I'm sorry. We were talking about hats. Okay. Okay. Hats.

Baseball cap. Classic. Classic. I wear that a lot because I haven't gotten a haircut in a while. You love a hat. Love a hat. You love a hat. It's not that I don't, it's not that I love a hat. It's that I hate how my hair looks sometimes. So a hat is so much easier. Yeah. I hate a hat. I don't want to wear a hat. You love your little gardening lady hat. I love gardening hats. That's a different genre. But if I'm like walking down the street or like going to activity to wear a hat, I don't want to do that. It's going to flatten my hair. And also I don't look good in hats. And that's extremely wide-brimmed.

We have such a different experience of the world. I realize this because you have like straight hair. Oh. Straight, straight, straight hair. Well, it's a small way. Nothing will ever be the delusion of people with straight ass hair being like, there's a wave. There is a wave. My hair has a natural wave. You're like, bitch, no, it doesn't.

Drops out if it gets too long. Like over, I don't know, two centimeters. And then someone with curly hair, like I'm just like, oh, it's't. It just drops out if the hair gets too long. Like over, I don't know, two centimeters? And then someone with curly hair, like I'm just like, oh, it's curly, like, you know, like it's just curly. It's curly no matter what. So it's like the highs are good luck. Oh, taming the curl.

Yeah, it's like, once I like run my hands through it again, like after the hat's been on, it's like that may as well never existed. Yeah. Matt, what do you think about hats? I like a good cap. Yeah. I like a good beanie.

Oh, you look so cute in a beanie. Yeah. Rocking around the house. You had a good beanie actually last winter. Me? Yeah, you. You're a beanie girl. I've lost that beanie that I wore

in the confessionals on the show. I have no idea where it went. It kind of had a little like a little lip, a little band. Yeah it was a little red one right? Very cute. Yeah. Well it's gone now. Oh sad. I bought a fabulous beanie in Japan when I went, also with that ex boyfriend. And I love that beanie, but it's because it's extremely chunky knit. So it feels big. I can't have the top of my head minimized by a hat. Yeah. You're like, I wouldn't be drowning in this hat. No, I also don't like being told what to do. And as someone who has vitiligo and must avoid the sun at all hours of the day.

Yeah. Like I, I know I need to do that. I know I need to wear sunscreen. I know I should be wearing a hat. I don't need everyone telling me to wear a hat to protect my skin from the sun. I'm the one with the white skin. I know about sun protection actually. And I choose not to wear a hat because it will make my head look small and weird. Actually. Yeah. But a fabulous, extremely wide brimmed sun hat. That's good. Yes, that is fabulous. I have those ones that I got from Salamanca market, which are like, um, like, uh, kind of like your, windscreen protector thing,

and sun, except it's a hat, so it can fold down into your purse. I love those hats. I love that hideous, what is it? Like straw hat that we got on Rottnest Island. I love that hat. That's my gardening hat.

But as time goes on, the sweat on that band continues to stain and that makes me feel ill. Hats collect a lot of sweat and that's quite disgusting and they're not as easily washed. Is the cardboard in the brim going to stay firm? I don't know the answer, so I'm not going to wash it. Um, a grimy hat. That's, I love a well seasoned hat. It's like a skillet. Well seasoned. Ew. It was, yeah.

It's got that white sweat band around it. Why? No, my sweat doesn't do that to the hat. It's not acid blood. I see. Do you know what I think? Even though it's like obviously being tarred by its proximity to dank and awful people, God, you really like, a cowboy hat just looks so good. It does. And it looks good ironically, and then it also looks good sometimes when it's deployed in complete sincerity. Like if you see a man that's just genuinely wearing a cowboy hat, not an ounce of irony on his being, you're like, fuck, that's working. What's that like? Is it like a Cobra?

A Cobra. That's a big one. That's good. Yeah. I mean, obviously it's like, yeah, like men who were baristas for many years and then went and started working in their own startup advertising firm have ruined hats on a lot of men. Yes. Like Johnny Depp has ruined hats. Oh God.

Like a fedora is unacceptable. A fedora, absolutely not. A Fez? Oh, Fez is chic. Fez is quite good. Did you ever play that game, Fez? They came out on like Xbox 360? Pez.

Fez. That was such a cool game. I fucking loved that game. PES. Oh, PES. What do you think about the cork hat? Cork hat? Like the Aussie outback.

Oh, like Aussieana with the baby. I would love that. You'd love that? I like that. There are some parts of Aussieana that I will fuck with and that's one of them. I don't think it works. I think, like, if you look at men in the outback nowadays, they're wearing netting. Yeah.

Just, yeah. What is it? Modern technology. Yeah, right. We've gone beyond. We've gone. I do. All they had was corks back then.

That's right. I, so there, my dad's a horticulturist, right? And there was this period where I was, I dunno, man, I might've been like eight, maybe 10, 12, I dunno. And there was like this weird era. Let's get to the bottom of this, were you 13? I wish I knew. Where there was this like, like a at home brochure that you could order things from,

like a Dennis direct, but in like a magazine kind of thing. I don't know what, but about like gardening supply things. It's the vaguest of memories, but there was a hat accessory that sat on the, it required a brim to the hat because that kept it up top. But then it came across your face and it had net and then the back was, uh, solid to protect you from the sun. And it was like a bee slash like insect protector. So you'd wear your wide brimmed hat and then this net would like go over the top and you

would close it up at the bottom with a little like pull tie. Yeah. And I requested it and we got it and I still have it and I love it. The details, there were extraneous details in that story that made it sound like and listen, made it sound like that was going to be more meat on the bone of that particular anecdote. I see. Perhaps the presentation skills were not lacking. The content. But the content was.

To you. Well, Matt, did you think there was going to be more to that story when she started going into the details about the specific place where they ordered that net? I did a little bit, yeah. No, but isn't that like so strange? Why was it relevant to know that your dad was a horticulturist? Because that's how we had the brochure manual thing. And how was that important?

It's just some weird fletching. Because that's where the hat came from. You could have said, when I was 10 or 8 or 7 or 11 or 12 or 13. I once again got a net. I'm being critiqued for things I would never critique you for. Well, that's because my story was fabulous. You remember about walking to that theater with my sister and there was people that were on various rows in various placements? Yeah. Well, that was my story, but I had a satisfying ending. We went home.

Well, you perhaps have a more satisfying life than me. Congratulations, sister. Well, you know what? We're both expressions of the universe's consciousness. Looking at each other, looking at the room, looking back at each other. We are the same. We are all stars. We are of the same stardust.

We are made from the slime of the universe. Okay. Okay. What kind of hat? That's a hat accessory though, so we can't put that in. What about pilot hats? What about policey hats? Okay.

It's very... Bubbies. Very hard, rigid. And like, I feel like it doesn't travel well. I feel like it represents something like it. Pride in the aviation age. Yeah. But it like represents, like I love uniform uniform is very camp and like having uniforms for jobs.

I like that. They really need to have an expanded. Universe of that. Yes. More uniforms for different jobs. So that's fun, but that hat looks very uncomfortable. Your comfort is not important for people in the bunker. Yeah.

Speaking of comfort and hats, those like outrageous, like military hats where the strap goes across your chin. Yeah. Right at the front of your chin. Yeah. Like the Anzac hat. That is crazy. Baby, pull that strap back.

I think that that is just an Australian thing. That is so weird. No, it's an English thing, surely. It's so stupid. Because that's what the, um, the people at the Buckingham Palace have too. But why? So stupid. Were they those giant fluffy hats?

I mean, there must be, oh, the bear hats. Like a wind sock. So, um, I mean, thank you for that fabulous segue. So yeah, so those hats were like, oh, I believe. The Beefeater hat. Yeah, but they are, I'm pretty sure they're like Black Bear, which are- The fur. Yes. And they are critically endangered, but so those hats are like the last version of those

hats that will ever exist in a genuine way. And once they start to deteriorate further, critically endangered, but so those hats are like the last version of those hats that will ever exist in a genuine way. And once they start to deteriorate further, they won't be able to like, you know, like go out and fucking kill bears. I don't know. I'm probably there with some sort of technology. Yes. Well, for fair has come a long way.

Yeah. Um, but she's good. She's good. Um, yeah, but she's good. But, um, yeah, the like fascinating thing about hide preparation and, and, and fur, and like the tanning process and everything that goes into that is that if you prepare and like treat and tan a hide correctly, the integrity of that skin and its ability to hold onto the fibers can last hundreds of years. Like some of the furs that I have at home

are probably a hundred years old. And I find that fucking fascinating and so cool. But also like the way that you store them is really important and humidity and like keeping them away from bugs and everything. Um, but the cleaning process and everything is really intricate and specific. You clean fur with sawdust. Um, it's just so fascinating, but yeah, like those hats, the last of their hand.

Um, yeah. That reminds me on TikTok, I saw a woman who was making leather from fish skin and for her fashion practice. And I was like, ooh, I can't wait. She was taking us through the whole process of turning a fish's flesh into leather and like de-scaling it and taking the fat off the inside

and how she does the entire process. Like I can't wait to see what she's come up with for this textile that she's kind of cornering the new fashion market on. And then it showed her outfits and it looked like a kind of a woman's form, but if that woman had had fish skin thrown at her and dragged across her flesh. Oh, I see. That's all. So a great success.

I was like, you're not really interpreting this textile in a way that makes it more interesting than looking explicitly like this woman ran through a fishery real fast. The woman of tomorrow. Today. Anyway, hats. Hats. Hats. What do you... Well, I mean, obviously the pinwheel hat is so fabulous. Like it's got a pinwheel on top. Like a little helicopter. Oh, spin, spin.

Yeah, that's great. Color blocking. And when I see kids with that hat, I'm like, God, you look like a little cartoon. You've seen a kid with that hat? Yeah. That's cool. I've been a kid with that hat. I'm like, God, you look like a little cartoon. You've seen a kid with that hat? Yeah. That's cool. I've been a kid with that hat. Why that fits?

I had a Goofy hat from Disneyland and had Goofy's face, the brim of the cap was Goofy's iconic muzzle. And then his ears came from the hat, from the cap part of the hat, and draped down over my small face at the time. Oh. And then his ears came from the hat, from the cap part of the hat, and draped down over my small face at the time. And then on top, pinwheel. And then we went to the beach, Shelly Beach in Calandra.

It was a frigid day. One day I was warm, interminably warm, every day warm and sometimes ghost. My sister dug a hole and buried the goofy hat. I'd run away for some reason. And then I came back and said, where's the hat? And we spent the rest of the day trying to find the hat, digging holes, digging holes. No.

Do you think someone else found it or did the ocean take it back? It could, no, no, she would have buried it quite deep. The vengeful cunt. Oh my God. So I have a hat that is like a bear, as if a bear was biting me. Oh, Gingerminge. What? Yeah.

In that runway on season seven. I don't care what you call that. But like, I hate that hat, but it is kind of cute. There is something transformative about like a man in his like twenties who's like very hot and hunky wearing like a kind of plushy hat. When I, oh, you know that like bisexual that I hooked up with who came to the viewing party, um, two years ago and he was like, Oh my God, Stacy, if you're listening, your brother, um, Oh yeah.

Do you remember? Like I, he's actually so sweet. I love that guy. But the second time that we hooked up as he was like leaving the house the next day, he like put on his hat when he got outside and I like looked through the window and it was like this little green bucket hat, fuzzy. It was like a frog with like little frog eyes on it. It was so cute. I still think about it. He's so cute. That is very cute. That was like so obscenely disgusting, but like him, this like six foot four, like hot, hot bisexual guy. Stacey. Wearing this stupid froggy hat. Yeah.

That is so cute. Yeah. Oh my God. I'll never forget it. And now neither will our listeners. Isn't that insane? I will literally remember that for the rest of my life. And your memories are their memories. That's right. Well, the only one I like that's kind of silly is the swimming cap.

Oh, the one covered in little flowers? I just hate the way that hat tugs on your hair. It's horrible to wear, but it looks really funny. But why do people wear that? So that your hair doesn't get wet. So that your hair doesn't get wet? It's going to get wet. You're going in a pool.

I know, but apparently it doesn't get wet. Is that what it's about? That's what it's meant to be. What is wrong with getting your hair wet? Chlorine, I guess. The divas don't get wet. Is that what it's about? That's what it's meant to be for. What is wrong with getting your hair wet? Chlorine, I guess. The divas don't want chlorine in their hair. Wash it out. No, I'm not gonna, well, I just,

people shower too much immediately after swimming. Get over it. Just smell like chlorine for the rest of the day. I like smelling chlorine on me. Same. It's so nice. Sniff my arms. I like that too.

Are you like, okay, you've had sex and you've cum and you've cum either all over yourself or you've jerked off and you're covered in cum or like your partner has cum all over you or you've cum all over them. Everyone's covered in cum. Everyone's literally covered in cum. Like, are you going to lie there, let it dry and then get up and live your life? Or are you going to like cuddle? And it's like disgusting. Cause now the cum is literally everywhere. But like, that's hot because you're fucked. Like if you don't want cum everywhere,

you probably wouldn't have fucked each other. Now you're there and you're covered in cum. And then what? So maybe reach for a towel. If you're reaching for a fucking roll of toilet paper or tissue, get out. It's going to fall apart. It's going to stick and clump and then be like all bitsy. Yeah. But a towel or a cum rag, sure.

I very please cum rag, buy it now. The worst case scenario is like, I got to have a shower. Oh yeah. I mean like, I think here's the thing. Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean like I think here's the thing. Yeah. Um, it absolutely, once the game is run, I think like you reset. Yes. Like, so it's like whatever's happening now is going to be about like now we're into the next quarter. Yeah.

So it's like it takes five minutes, everyone regroup and then we can go from there. Yeah. So that's towel, it takes five minutes, everyone regroup, and then we can go from there. So that's towel time. And then if you want to cuddle after that, or go to sleep, or whatever the hell, that's now time we're going into the next act. And if that's more sex or whatever, then that. Recharge for round two. Well, exactly.

But there needs to be a break, a defined break where the horniness can kind of dissipate for a second. Yeah. Because if you've both come as well, as well, like your headspace can take a second. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And then I think if you have fucked, that is where I would say a shower is in order. I think it depends. I think if you were covered in lube that has kissed the inside of someone's colon and come

back out and is now on you, then I think it's time for a shower. Even if there's no shit. Even if you got fucked by curtain and then like, would you suck his dick? Like before a shower? I think it depends how horny. Okay. Like that's perfectly fine. I think if it's like, uh, like regular fuck, then no.

Like, but if it's like really horny tearing the sheets apart kind of fuck, then it's like you suck the dick, you eat the ass, you do that. Everything like your threshold of like goes lower. Yeah. Right. Yes. But like, I think that's yeah, like I don't think that that's, I don't think that's like on the menu every day of the week. No, but I feel like that's part of your, um, you also know once you've been fucked or have fucked if there's any issues that have arisen.

So like, you know that before, like, I mean, it's always going to be particles of all that's going to be a little, there's going to be a percent. Yeah. Okay. It might not be 60 40, but there's going to be a percent of things around. And I think like, you know, like it is the thing of the cause like, you know, the human brain turns off disgust during sex. Like that's part of like, if you're really aroused things that would normally

disgust you in everyday life, like a froggy hat or something like that, weren't discussed. You find one. Yeah. Then it like switches that off. So it's like spit fluids, all those things suddenly become like very sexy and arousing versus like, yeah, if you just like got spat on in the street. But anyway, that all that to say is like,

yeah, it depends where you're at in that. And then I think if you've just come, like that switch goes back on. And I think that like, that's when I'm like, okay, now I need to have a shower. Yeah. Unless I'm like on drugs or something. Hmm.

Or if you're wearing a swimming cap. Oh yeah, of your hats. Because I think I, like I completely agree. It's situational, right? I think like a hard, like I would never suck a dick after it's been in an ass is so stupid. Like, because like. That's so stupid. Like, because like, that's so stupid. Like grow up. It's like you're putting your raw dick in someone's hole. Like what difference does it make? Like it's all

happening. It's all everywhere. Like it is everything everywhere all at once. Your dick doesn't have flavor receptors though. True. We just get a tang. True. Like, and like if you got down there and you're like, what's your flavor? What's your flavor? And suddenly there was- But the dick is also like the test.

Because if the dick comes out and there's issues, best believe I'm not going to go and throat it. But like- Who said that awful amazing thing of like well you know you gotta poke the cake and see if the stick comes out clean well I hate that wow anyway no she's ready yeah yeah no I think it is one of those things. I think it really just depends on like, yeah, where that's at.

And so my point is, you should always be like hardline. I think like, no, but some people will like, you'll end it and be like, I need a shower. And it's like, I worked hard to literally cover you in cum. I made that cum. And now you're going to go and wash it off. That's not very horny. You were so horny, cum. And now you're gonna go and wash it off. That's not very horny. You were so horny, literally 20 seconds, now you're gonna wash it off.

Or when you've like, listener, you know what you're listening to. If you've like cum in someone's ass and they're like instantly like, look, I'm gonna go to the bathroom. Yes. Like, then why did we do this? Well, that's, I mean, you're too seed oriented.

You're all about the cum. It's about the feelings, the sensation. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't end after the sex. If you... The special prize. Your special treat.

But like, I don't know, to like instantly reject everything that you've just done. Well, it's cause those men hate you. I'm not talking about my situation exclusively. Well, that's it. It's a, you know, it's like, it just kills the horniness is my issue with that of like, okay, well now that's done and now it is over. I'm going to go shower. I'm going to go like, it's done.

Yeah. I'm like, oh, can't we just like live in this for just like 10 minutes? This beautiful moment. You know, cause like other one, like. No, but I think it's like, I like the idea of, I mean, as long as it gets to this of like going from horny, horny, horny to like more like loved up. Yeah. horny to like more like loved up. You know, but like, I think it's, that's why if it goes, if someone immediately shuts down and becomes cold and like a loop after sex, then I think

it's like, that's an issue. But if you can go from like sex, sex, sex, take five, clean up, and then now we're going to spoon. Yeah. I think that that's nice, but you at least feel like comfy. Yeah. And not like, oh, what's that dripping sensation? Oh, yeah. I didn't realize it was, oh, no, it's everywhere.

Yeah. I'm seeping calm from my soul. So that brings us really beautifully to witch's hat. We already have a witch's hat in the bunker. It's one of the Halloween costumes that's used, but once a year. Sister! I know. That's true!

I speak only the truth. I know the show. Oh my God! I have a spreadsheet. What? You got your own spreadsheet. Yeah. Okay. Would you love that if I secretly got your own spreadsheet. Would you love that if I secretly had my own?

I would hate that. Would you know, like that is you with Kurjan on the train. I would not know you. Yeah. That would be a different person. I would literally ripped off, rip off your like human suit and uncover like the reptilian overlord from planet Zimu. Yeah. Like that is Zimu. Yeah.

Like that is not this reality. Yeah. It would be just, but it would be so worth it just for that. Oh yeah. It has my own formulas in it. I didn't like the way you'd said it. Oh, worse if you critiqued mine. Ew. No, I just think- Left some notes.

But I have been thinking about different. Okay. So I might as well just say it here. It's not like I'm sure we're going to be going for about 15 minutes. So listener, lazy man, the Mariana Trench website, where you cascade into the depths of the Mariana Trench and you're delighted by things along the scroll. What if, this is my plan for like the spreadsheet 2.0, is we make the Death to Everyone website and there's a bunker page where as you scroll through, there's all different moments

of all the things that are in the bunker. That's amazing. I wanna do that. Well then Zelda. Yeah. Get to amazing. I want to do that. Well, then, Zelda. Yeah. Get to it. I actually started this week. Oh.

Yeah. Aren't you a blessed angel from heaven? So that's what I'm working on at the moment. Well, that sounds like as good a time as any to say. Yeah, I was like, when we do our little like 2.0 moment, that's when I want to launch it. Wow. Yeah. So anyway, that's when I want to launch it. Wow.

Yeah. So anyway, that's a little teaser. If you've lasted four hours into the podcast this week, you now have the inside scoop. It's impossible to know how long a podcast is going to be. Actually, speaking of scoop, ice cream truck people have a particular hat. The milk money. Chef's hat. Chef's hat.

Ratatouille. Iron Chef Chen Kenichi has a different hat to some of the others. I was going to say my favorite type of hat, and you probably, I don't know if I've ever seen you in one of these before, so I don't know. Matt, I've never seen you in one of these either, but my favorite type of hat is a crown. You know? And I think... You haven't worn one of them. Yeah.

No. I've got two of them. No. No. No. Linkin Park, Heavy is the Crown. Heavy is the Crown. What?

One of Linkin Park's new songs is Heavy is the Crown. That is not even the saying. What? The phrase is Heavy's the head, that wears the crown. Oh really? Yeah. That's funny. Those boys are stupid.

Boys. Men. There's a woman. In Lincoln Park? Yeah. How long has that been the case? Like the latest album. Just for the latest one?

I don't know baby. You can't read. Okay well. She's actually quite fat. I like it. Okay. Women can be in bands. fat. I like it. Okay. That wrong. I'd hate to spread misinformation on this podcast. Lincoln park. Okay. Lincoln bio more like, okay. Lincoln.

Okay. And so the, my case for crown is, and why I think it would be good for the crown. Good for the bunker. Heavy as the crown. Good for the bunker. Sorry, yeah. Is there's something, there's no sane way to wear the crown, any crown. Lizzy knew it before she passed. Like she wore it one time, never again. There is no way you can just be a normal human being and put a crown on and look sane. It makes you look crazy.

You look insane. You could be the ruler of the free fucking world. You come out in a crown, people are like, bitch, are you fucking kidding me? And I'm not talking about like a tasteful band, like on, I'm sure, season five of Grand The Throne or something like that, where it's just like a suggestion of a crown, a day-to-day crown. I'm talking about crazy, stoned up, big blingy crown.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the one that got from Drag Race. Mm-hmm. When I put that on, I'm like, I look insane. And I think... Were you wearing your white t-shirt as well? Yeah, exactly. Imagining a bunch of, like, people in the end of days walking around a bunker,

all wearing crowns, doffing their crown, hanging up their crown when they walk into Reggie's, pouring cold one. Oh, but the bartender wears a crown. Everyone wears a crown. That's funny. Oh my God. That is quite funny. Maybe like different, like if you can afford like a bigger crown.

Oh yeah. It's like a symbol of your status. Some people are in Burger King crowns and some people are in flax. Like the paper party crowns. Christmas crackers. Oh, the dye starts to leak onto your skin when you sweat on the hot Australian summer Christmas. I always push it down over my hair to stop it from reaching my flesh.

Why does it turn on my head? Because you got a giant melon up there. No, I feel like on my brother, they split open at the back. My mother is so insistent that everybody put on the crown. That is because she wants the first spirit. She does. Oh, and my sister-in-law is so like, why do you guys always do this? Because that way it really shows in the photos.

We know what day it was. Oh, I love that. What I was going to say. Of course your sister-in-law's upset. She's married to the pumpkin head. Who's splitting those tiaras left and right. She's like, don't make him go through it again every year. Oh my God. He's actually wearing two clowns.

We stapled them together. We brought ours from home. I stayed up late into the night cutting crepe paper from a tablecloth pattern. What a disgusting two word pairing, crepe paper. Ew. Um, what about those like, like I'm playing soccer baby hats that are like pinned together with a press stud.

What? Pinned together with a press stud? You know, it's like a little brim, but then the hat is like a beret, but it's like, Oh, like a Newsy's hat. Yeah. Oh, I love those. Oh, I think that's disgusting. On the right man.

On the right man. I don't know that there's a man that's right. Have we talked about visors? The hat with no top. So you can put your ponytail at the top. Yeah. You think that, but then you're a drag queen and you're like, will this ever look good? Yeah, no, that's the answer. Oh, it doesn't look good. You can buy baseball caps that have the hole in the back for your ponytail. I love a woman in a baseball cap with the pony coming out the back ears. But if it's genuinely from the Gap, don't make a pony.

Wait, what hair do we have in the bunker? It has to be in the... What? What hair do we have in the bunker? A beehive wig. Yeah, beehive wig. We have... Micro bangs. Star Wars wig, yeah, micro bangs.

Oh God. We got that lilac. Yeah, that lilac. It's hard to wear a hat on that. Yeah. Well, that's why I'm saying... Crown. You should say... Yeah, you either need a visor's hard to wear a hat on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's why I'm saying... Crown. You should see...

Yeah, you either need a visor or a crown, and probably crown is more silly. That's quite funny. Okay. Lock it in. It's a crown. We're now at the end of the episode. Oh. Okay.

The end has come. So tonight we are putting in the bong car. We've put in your ex-boyfriend, Guy. Cutting the ponytail of a man who slided him at the party. Yeah. Public enemy. Eight men, four of them age 50 to 60, four of them age 20 to 30. All being obnoxious.

On public transport. On public transport. You're trapped. Yeah. We've also put in this concept of Trish. Trish has wronged people in the bunk car, but they've never met her. Yeah. Um, we've also put in this concept of Trish. Trish has wronged people in the bunker, but they've never met her. Yeah. But everyone knows her.

She's like that dream man that everyone can draw. What? That, you know, that man that like the criminologists have drawn. No. And they're like, people from all around the world were asked to describe this man that they kept having recurring dreams of. And then they compared all these images of this man and he was the same man. The Mothman?

Prophecies. Scary! Well, that's our Trish. Ew! That's Nicholas Cage. Our Trish! Did you dream about her again tonight? Yes, she's so annoying.

Ew! That is so scary. Wait, do you see a picture of this man? Oh, I don't want to see that, man! Next you're gonna say, here's the one that looks good in that hat. That golfing hat. The dream man.

Oh, you're gonna hate this! I forgot how haunting it is! I'm genuinely like... Not. I'm putting him in the chat now. OK. And the other thing that we put in the bunker is a sparkle firework. What was it?

Strobe. Strobe firework. Paparazzi. That's good. Is that a look at that picture? Oh no, I'm scared. Okay. I'm loading the image now.

Lazy center. Ew! Oh my God. Lazy center. Oh, yuck. Ew. Oh my God. Matt, have you also puttook? That is disgusting. Yeah, he's got very big eyebrows. That's so scary. He's got a very small face. But imagine that man in your dreams.

He's going to be in my dreams tonight. Like you're in it. He's smiling like he knows something about you. Yeah, he's got a half smile. But like you're walking through like a long hallway in like an abandoned kind of recreation hall, like with line of floors, and then you like look up and there's like a man standing in the corner who's been looking at you for longer than you realized. Oh.

And it's that guy. Ew. And you're like, why is he smiling? And as you walk towards him, he just stays the same distance away. Oh, my God. When Adam was over for the last time earlier this week, yes, the possums were back in the walls and we were watching fucking Yellow Jackets finale

and then there was all this in the walls and he was like what the fuck is that? I was like oh that's the demons. You should have pretended you can't hear it. I love that. That's scary. What are you talking about? Ew! Oh that's good.

Okay and what do we put in for the firework? And what do we put in from the end? A crown. What are you talking about? Ew! Yeah. Oh, that's good. Okay. And what do we put in for the firework? And what do we put in from the end? A crown. And a crown. Listener. We've made it to the other end of an incredible episode. That one took a bit longer, but you can see why.

Oh, there's a lot of gold. We had to get through a lot today and I'm glad you were here for the rigorous work. Yes. How many times, listener, can you write in, how many times could Katy Perry go to space and back for the duration of this podcast? Because that's an 11 minute trip and what are we at, Matt? We're over two and a half hours now. Fuck in hell. Okay, goodbye. Death to Everyone was recorded at Natural Habitat Studios by Mount Shears.

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