Death To Everyone - Death To... Glasses & Straight Actors Doing LGBTQI+ Roles
Episode Date: March 31, 2026Helllooooo there Listener! We are back for more goodies to add to the celestial bunker Please enjoy! Follow us, won't you? www.patreon.com/deathtoeveryone�...�� www.instagram.com/deathtoeveryonepod www.instagram.com/mslazysusan www.instagram.com/zeldamoon You can send us a voicemail at www.speakpipe.com/deathtoeveryoneDeath To Everyone is recorded at Natural Habitat Studios by Matt Sheers. www.naturalhabitatstudios.com Our theme and music was provided by Edie Centric and Angus Leslie. www.instagram.com/ediecentric www.instagram.com/pir_ingi103
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Dasha.
Hello.
Is anyone there?
Imagine, listener, you are at the bottom of a well
and we peer atop the well.
Our body's obscuring the sunlight
that's been bathing you since you fell down this well.
You know our voice is saying,
Dasha!
Listener!
How are you?
How'd you get down there?
It kind of probably sounds similar.
If you want to replicate the well experience,
obviously after they get you out of the well,
You feel relieved, but also a part of you craves to return.
So you could put your phone inside of a coffee cup,
and it will sound like us yelling at you from down the well where we discovered you.
Yes, and if you look into that coffee cup through a toilet roll,
I could help create the well experience, usually.
We found listener wandering around the halls of office works,
holding posters up to their eye,
and peering through as if they were down a long tube.
what?
I just wanted to replicate the well experience.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
You know, like, the beacons filled miners?
You know how those two men got trapped in that beacons?
Well, those more than two, but those are the two survivors.
I thought.
Anyway, two men trapped down a well together.
They're not friends anymore.
Well, they weren't friends at the time.
But one of them had an iPod and listened to, what was it?
Dave Grohl
What's his band?
Nirvana
No the other one
What was his project after
Nirvana?
Rage against him
The Food Fighters
So he got really
He said
When he came out
When he came out
Of the well
Of the mine
Wait Dave Grohl
Was in the mine?
No
Well he was spiritually
Because the guy
Had an iPod
And listened to
Dave Grohl
nonstop. And then Dave Grohl, the Food Fighters, were so touched that they wrote a song
in honor of the Beaconsfield Minors and then they went and performed it in Tasmania and have
kept a lifelong connection with this kind of local hero. Wow. Who survived in the mine. The other guy
wasn't listening to anything. Doesn't have a song for him. Oh, no iPod. Yeah. Damn. He's
listening to Kalees. Kalees. Hmm. Yeah. Because of you.
that song?
No, it's like, my milkshake brings all the boss of the year.
Anyway, I'm lazy Susan.
And I'm Zelda Moon.
And our producer is Matt Chars.
Hello, again.
Hello, again.
Matt Chess is our producer, and we are, of course, two celestial goddesses
flying through the vacuum of space in our space car being driven by our producer-slash-driver.
And it is our job, our duty, our profound honor,
to every week come on to.
It's a calling, I think.
Yeah, it's a true calling.
Do you know the show True Calling?
The girl's name in it is true.
T.R.U.
Yeah, like Trudy Calling.
It's Trudy Calling.
Same with Bones.
Is it a name Bones?
Well, it's a nickname.
They call it Bonesy.
Bonesy.
What's a regular name?
Zoyd-Shanel sister.
Oh, I see.
Bonesy.
It's more of a ring to it, I suppose.
Oh, it's skinny.
Skinny.
Anyway, our true calling is to decide every week what goes into our doomsday bunker.
Yes.
And what from culture and society should survive the very, very imminent apocalypse.
Closer day by day.
You know what?
When we started this podcast, we were such jaded millennials.
Say, oh, it does feel like the apocalypse is really around the bend.
Well, now it really feels like that.
How crazy.
Yeah.
All things just keep getting better.
Or at least that's what they said.
The fuel was.
Yeah.
I actually was talking to someone the other day being like, I think what if Donald Trump turns out to be the president with the greatest positive environmentalist impact?
Because of his fuckery in the street of Amuz.
Like what if everyone?
turns to EV and embraces solar and wind.
You would hate that.
But like because he put a huge spotlight on how fragile the oil market is.
That'd be crazy.
I know a lot of people, I mean, like, yeah, like my dad's thinking about getting an EV now.
My father, I don't think he realizes how tiny those cars are.
Is he like because?
He likes like a big, because he's a big American man.
He likes a gas gas gas.
He likes a car with a big tall roof and, like, you know,
something for him to fit in easily.
Did they not make a larger EV?
I don't know, actually.
I'm speaking out of term, but I assume that they don't.
No.
My dad got one.
Oh, does they, it's like a, um.
A pejora style.
It's like a, yeah, it's like a yute.
They, um, they have electric eutes now.
Oh, my God.
I don't know if it's a hybrid or if it's just a full electric.
I think it's just a full electric.
full electric. It's like a, it's called BYD. Yeah. Oh, B. YD. I've experienced that.
They're pretty good. They're very fancy. They're definitely not like the rough and rugged
yutes. No, they're more like, it's more like a Tesla adjacent experience. It's kind of giant screen.
Yeah. On it. Yeah. iPad. Mm. Yeah. They're so distracting. Yeah. It's really terrible.
What's like how do you define the difference between a,
remote controlled car, famously powered by electricity, and an EV.
I feel like that's just an upsize.
You just got to climb inside?
Yeah, that's fun.
A remote control car.
Yeah.
Like one of those ones that they're forward and sideways.
Get inside your Waymo.
Waymo.
The self-driving car that they have in America.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
Would you get inside a self-driving car?
Are they legal now in America?
In some places.
Wow.
You can get in,
in L.A., Sam Pran.
I think they were trying to roll it out in Boston,
according to some podcast I was listening to it.
And all the Boston people were like,
no, fuck off.
We don't want your fucking self-driving car.
But then they were like, it's safer,
and they're like, no, it isn't.
And they're like, but yes, it is.
You know?
And that's fun.
So much fun.
Anyway, how have you been, Zelda Moon?
I don't know if you can tell listener, I'm a touch exhausted.
Yeah, it has just been a very, very, very long week at work.
It has been very complex and very busy.
Nothing bad.
I'm just exhausted.
But that's how entertaining to listen to.
She's that a hard life, our girl.
Yeah.
But part of why I'm so tired is that in amongst all of that work,
I had a gig that I loved.
Oh my Godin' Garden Show with my sister, Lizzie Susan.
You were there?
I was there.
You got invited too.
I did, yeah.
Who invited you?
The flower and the garden people.
I met the head of the Flower and Garden show.
He was a man in khaki pants and a khaki top,
and that wasn't what I was expecting.
He's got now.
It seems to be like Silver Fox, I guess.
Yeah.
What an insane room to play to?
Yeah, okay.
So I did this gig last year and I enjoyed,
but it is a rather unique experience.
Lazy, how did you find the proceedings?
Well, number one, honored to be invited.
And thank you to Brianna for having us.
Yes.
because it was quite chic and fabulous to be in the Royal Exhibition Building.
Next to what guns is that?
Coulton Gardens.
The Coulton Gardens, which are all decked out.
So they fence off the publicly owned gardens and give it over to a paid event for one of the weeks.
And then people set up these fabulous displays, like all the landscape architects, all the gardening companies, all the wholesale trading.
in the gardening space,
set up stalls,
and it's just a giant expo.
And then inside of the main room
is a lot of the florals
protected from the elements.
And people can set up different,
like, yeah, bouquets and displays.
And then there's like a kind of end of the room
where they've set up a kind of audience moment.
Yeah, the main stage.
The main stage.
And it's not unlike drag expo.
or drag con.
It does.
Like it, yeah, it just feels like a con experience.
Yeah.
Just with plants instead of like.
Drag queens.
Yeah, or like deviant art.
Artists selling A5 versions of their, you know.
A 3D printed dragon that's articulated.
Yes.
And it comes from a shell that's also 3D printed.
Oh, look, we've done it in an oil slick.
But the room is massive.
Yes.
And so it doesn't calculate.
capture sound.
Oh.
So when you speak into it, it's like speaking out into an abyss.
Yes.
Like this right?
The abyss.
And then we were hired to bring a bit of light, levity and fun to the Twilight
offerings.
Gardens by Twilight.
And so we repeated what Zelda had done the year before, which was a trivia.
And then we did a spot number.
And then we also.
We also did a presentation.
Yes.
And we put famous examples of plants and flowers into a tier list,
ranking them against each other as to what was the most fabulous of all.
And in S-tier, we ended up with, well, I say, wait, I designated the placement in the tier.
Yeah, Zol really put some on the scale in this one.
Mortisha Adams and her roses.
that's S-tier.
Midsummer May Queen, that was S-tier.
And then two things I can't recall.
Oh, exactly.
Yeah.
And somehow, Audrey, too, was just a A-tier from Little Shepahara's.
I just don't know what this woman is on about.
Well, I haven't seen it.
Yeah, she's drunk, drunk with power.
But, yeah, I want you to imagine that presentation.
And, like, where does that fit with the middle-aged women?
and young children that are coming to the flower and garden show for some wholesome kind of
tips about how to make a bouquet and they're suddenly subjected to a tier list.
Yeah.
Like they're watching a YouTube video at 3 in the morning.
Yes, but no, it's 8 o'clock at night at the flower and garden show.
But I think we got away with it.
Oh, absolutely.
And it is the same thing that happened last year where, like, while you're in the experience on
stage, it's like, wow, this is, this is an interesting one.
I'm sure how this is going.
But then you get offstage and there's a line of people wanting photos and they're
like, oh my God, that was so cute.
Thank you so much.
So they're not very vocal in the performance?
They are not hoodin and hollering.
They're just staring at you.
Yeah, exactly.
Politely sitting and listening and that's it.
Well, these are garden people.
Yes.
But it's very wholesome.
Yeah.
I like, yeah.
That was cute.
Survived that.
And then we went along to, no, then I went along to Brunswick Ballroom for Bruno's party.
Yes, how was?
It was really fab.
It was actually so cute.
I think that they, yeah, Brunswick Ballroom, a very fabulous venue.
Very grand.
parquet floor or whatever
and like a giant lid light ceiling
and like it's a grand ballroom
and there were just like a lot of gays
that were having a fun all time
and did it
the number that I did when I was on drag race
on tour
and it was just super effective
those people were like yeah
did you activate the staircase?
Oh, did I?
I was inside of my man suit and I came down from the top of the staircase.
That is ambitious.
Which is a very steep stairs.
Yes.
And inside of my man's suit, my entire body is covered.
My arms are flush with my chest so I can't even reach up to the banister.
And my eye line is about the size of a five-cent piece.
So I'm peering as if from a well down a staircase that I now have to traverse in.
Six in chills.
Six in chills.
So that was fun and I didn't die.
And also like there's these occasions where I stumble into like little, I don't know,
clusters of people that I haven't seen or been in the company of since Drag Race.
And then suddenly it's like I've just been on the show because I went for a little trip
truck like around the club after my spot.
Yeah.
And I was like, people are like, oh my God.
Hi, how are you doing?
Oh, congratulations on your win.
And I was like, that was two years ago.
And they're like, can we get a photo?
Oh, that's great.
Thank you.
Ooh, it continues.
Yes.
I like it.
Yeah.
Dan M.
Rends.
I know.
It was very chic.
And then I went home and I woke up the next morning and made a balcony for
Pooquet.
This is very important
It was a very good little video sister
Yeah we go
Please explain for the people who don't know
I had bought my husband
Dyso poo cat
And for Christmas
But among many other things
It was just a stocking stuff for real
A squishy cat
Yeah like a cat that you like squeeze
It's made out of a kind of thick, quite robust vinyl
And then as you squeeze it
it poohs out like a bright orange kind of putty um and then a stress ball yeah kind of um but yeah
it became his favorite gift um and the thing that he admires most and so now pukkah has
sat on the shelf for a long time although it's putty has since dried out um but then the the plan
was commenced of like we need to find a proper way to display pukat so that he
gets the love and admiration that he deserves in this life.
And in the next.
Yeah, so I made a little balcony out of dolls, balconies.
Balconies for doll houses.
Stuck on the wall.
Dolls and cats.
Small ones.
It's cute.
What a great place to live now.
He can just sit up there and watch everything.
Yeah, exactly.
Poop when he needs to.
It's very important.
Lazy Susan, will you destroy this planet now, please?
Yes.
I'm going to destroy this planet by, let's just do an oil crisis.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Mad Max style.
Exactamundo.
So there is a collapse of the world oil refineries and not enough time to catch up with renewables.
So suddenly cars can't drive, and particularly in a country like Australia where it's all connected by trucks and the highways.
then the food supply
breaks down
and as a result
wars commence
and people start fighting
for the last scraps of fuel
sucking it out of the ticks of their
neighbours and fighting and stabbing
and fighting and stabbing
until the world is reduced
The gasoline
For the gasoline
The world is reduced to just
Yeah squalor
Until one man emerges
as kind of a road warrior.
And then perhaps at Tina Turner.
We don't need another hero.
Okay, and that's the story.
Who will play Tina Turner?
Tina Turner.
Ah, good.
She's still going.
Teenativity scene.
Yeah, I like it.
Tina Turner Nativity scene.
That's a line from, from fucking, oh my God,
Fountain Lakes.
Oh.
Oh, we're doing the teen to turn a teen activity scene.
Crowd Mary?
That's good.
I like it.
Nice.
Well, goodbye.
On we go.
Hello and welcome back to our show.
Now, our very first category for what should go into the bunker this week is we realize sometimes when your Murphy bed folds down in the morning in the bunker, the bunker, the lights,
flicker on or your gas lantern turns on.
And it's a bit bright, particularly if you've been drinking the night before.
Oh dear.
So what kind of glasses do you need in the bunker to be able to see?
Zedra.
Are you partial to glass?
You don't really wear glasses.
I don't really wear...
You don't wear any kind of glasses.
I don't wear any kind of glasses.
You don't want a single lens between you and the reality that you live in.
I just like don't know that I can decide on.
what I like.
So I don't know that I'm ready to get a pair because I'm still thinking about which kind
of frames I like.
Perhaps in the next decade.
Well, there's been a few so far and I still haven't decided.
So give me a few more.
I'm a bit worried that.
Are you blindy?
No, I mean like sunglasses.
We put her in some aviators and it really did transform her into a person that I do not like.
I had a pair of sunnies a couple years ago, but one of the, I mean,
I don't know, they met their end, and I just never replaced them.
But that was a weird time in my life, and I would wear sunglasses in summer.
And I look back at photos, and I think, well, there I am wearing sunglasses.
That's rather strange.
But I wish I was a sunglasses person.
You can be.
Every gas station in this country could turn you into a sunglasses person.
That's all they'll sell soon.
Yeah, exactly.
Sunglasses for me.
Yeah.
You think EB Games is closing?
What?
Is EB Games done?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
We walked past a closed down EB games yesterday.
And Cojum was like, I think they're not going to make it.
There's just nothing for them to sell like the gas stations.
Well, this is true.
There is, like, you go into an EB games and there is like one wall bay with video games.
Yeah.
Like, and I bought a video game there recently got home and it was empty.
Or like, it wasn't empty.
But the cartridge was just a piece of plastic.
with like a key in it and then you had to fully download the entire game.
Like the game there was no chip in the card.
No.
And it's like no no this just like unlocks that you can play the download.
That's so stupid.
It's like Nintendo what the fuck.
So I'm like even if you like because they're you know like we're kind of transitioning from physical media in the video again game landscape.
But like even the PS5, they release two versions of, one for physical discs and one without, because they just know that the change is coming.
But the change is coming whether you like it or not because they're now selling physical media that has no content on it and then you have to download it.
It's just a box.
Yeah, it's just a box.
But it's also a box with no resale value.
Correct.
That's insane.
Yes.
So all of like those shifts, whether they're from, you know, like market trends or being pushed by the, you know, like developer, like console companies or whatever.
It's kind of inevitable.
But what does a video game store sell if not video games?
Squishmelor.
Yeah.
Then it's just like merch and trash.
But it's also like those stores sell the worst merch, which is all.
Who's doing the brand forecasting for EB?
Like, the stuff is so ugly.
Yeah.
It's rough.
And you see a lot of, like, over the years, there's more and more, like, desperation.
Like, they always have, like, upsell items.
And when you go to the counter, there's, like, 20 things that the poor employees seem to be forced to say at gunpoint.
And how many carrots do you have?
Yeah.
And, like, oh, you've spent over $20.
Would you like this piece of shit for $15?
you've unlocked that ability.
A purple final
Ursula bag is not a piece of shit.
It's like, oh, you mean that tempting
Pikachu towel that has the absorbency
of a piece of rubber?
Oh, don't threaten me with a good day.
But all of those weird add-ons and stuff
just wreak of desperation to me.
And, yeah, I don't know.
It's rough.
So I wouldn't be surprised if they diminish.
Well, valet to you.
D'Abb games.
It's time to ebb.
Back to the sea, darling.
Yeah, glasses.
Well, I think glasses are country.
Yes.
As someone with strange Bushemi-esque bug eyes,
it's important to be able to cover them.
I certainly admire people that wear glasses, sunglasses at night.
And also big things.
rimmed glasses for seeing, you know, like Ira Glass.
Don't worry about it.
The horn-rimmed glasses.
Sheik.
Ira Glass.
Ira Glass, you know, like, hi, this is National Public Radio.
My name is Ira Glass.
This week we're going to be looking at a man in Minnesota who discovered that you can be fun.
What?
You know.
That's a person.
Yeah.
He's a radio presenter.
Probably the world's most famous.
He's doing an impression.
I've never seen this man in my life.
That's why I didn't land.
All right.
Okay.
I'm just trying to keep things flowing,
but getting stalled.
Okay.
It's because I'm a beaver and I am blocking the flow of water.
She's tired of everyone.
She's done a long week.
Don't block the flow with your beaver.
See, Matt, this is what we're talking about.
This is the kind of stuff we're talking about.
You take it too far.
Yeah.
You take it too far every time.
I'm actually really upset by that.
She's really upset by that.
No, it's fine.
I can keep it out.
I can continue.
For one.
So.
Yes.
I like, Australia has a very specific relationship because we are a country
built around cars.
So a lot of,
sunglasses that have become
huge in contemporary culture are based
around driving on the
highway when the light
hits the highway and turns it into a
blinding light so you need full wraparounds
so you can drive your truck
across the Australian landscape
so we have a thing
you know we've got the speed dealer sunnies
which are the ones that are quite common in the gas station
a full wraparound and the guys that wear that
interesting yeah
It's kind of undeniably hot, though.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then we just have the like, yeah, bass line black ones, which are also very chic.
I'm partial to that.
Where does the line between, like, we're talking about glasses, not goggles, right?
You want to go steam punk?
No, I want to go to Jurassic.
No, I want to go to Jurassic Park and put on those night vision goggles.
I wonder if I saw someone in night vision goggles, I'd say.
Oh, I like your glasses.
True.
No, you'd say I like your night vision goggles.
Probably.
I mean, there's a whole conversation to be had about goggles.
We'll do goggles next.
Walter goggles.
But what do you think about those glasses that you've even got the cryptkeeper singing,
boo-hoo, you know, eyeballs on strings.
Yeah.
The bubble out.
I really like this.
I think that that's so funny.
They're a delight.
I kind of...
You don't say there much anymore.
I know.
And you don't see them in an adult size, which is a real shame.
Yes.
I'm quite partial to those ancient Inuit glasses where they, like, for the snow blindness,
they'd carve from bone, I believe.
And, like, you'd just, like, carve a slit.
Oh, yeah, just a tiny.
And it would be, like, fully blacked out and then a slit so that you could, like, knock.
Like a sun tanning bed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is very cool.
Old bone sunglasses.
What do you think about really small circle lens like glasses?
Unfortunately, I think they're very cool, but that's just because I'm an idiot.
Yeah.
I love that.
There used to be this guy that I would hook up with who lived in, like, Fitzroy.
And he had really small glasses.
Oh, like bifocals, like clear ones.
Yeah.
I was thinking of the black ones that, like, Nazis were.
in movies.
Oh.
Yeah.
No.
Like on their nose?
Oh, no.
Like, you know.
Full, like, you know.
Oh, but just small.
Hello, Dr. Johns.
Yeah.
No, no.
That kind of thing.
Yeah.
Very pretentious, but kind of
cunty and cool.
Well, you were in the north,
the heartland.
Yes.
Yeah.
Ugh.
Was the dick good?
Yes.
Yeah.
You know what they say?
The smaller the glasses.
The bigger the dick.
They do say that.
I would be surprised.
if this hasn't come across your desk.
Yeah.
Have you been seeing all this stuff about catching print?
Catching print?
Catching print?
The new technique?
No.
Okay.
There was a man on TikTok who has introduced the concept.
He's like, to my girls out there.
This is how you catch print,
which is how you ascertain the size of a man's dick
by the dick print in his garage.
And he's like, you got your A,
which is like the top of the
line of the zipper
I thought it was a fly
it's like if you see a mound at the top of the fly
that's an A dick that's small
if you see a mound at the middle of the fly
like a full like rounded
I guess like kind of most protruding
crotch
bulge that's a B
and then if you see no bulge at all
it means that the dick is folded
beneath the legs
and it's just going to be perfectly flat
and so that's a C
it's a big banana
what do you think of that assessment
well I mean obviously we know that it's
not that simple
there are men out there that you know
could start with an A and end up with a big banana
yeah
a hunker
a big honking dick
yeah
because of you know
the inflation with the blood
yes like one of those
inflatables outside of a car centre.
Yeah.
So silly.
But it is interesting because it's kind of,
because a lot of people are talking about it,
it's like given women a new way to objectify men
in a way that kind of helps level the playing field.
Yes.
And in a way that gay men have been doing for so long.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, now it's a lot of people being like,
talking about catching print outside.
Yeah.
Yeah. Cool.
What do you think about that?
Yeah, I mean, two things.
One, you kind of have to look for some time to like cast your full analysis,
which can be tricky.
And illegal.
Yes, famously.
And two, men know what they're doing.
Men know what they're doing?
Like in that regard.
There's news to me, money.
Like, when you're putting on.
tracksuit pants to go out and about.
Are you saying that she was asking for it?
No.
But, like, really, no.
It's just different.
Like, it's...
I don't think that a lot of men know the dick print is a big thing.
Are they that about it?
Some, for sure.
Some absolutely not.
They just put on trackies because they've, like,
that's the pants they wear around the house.
Who goes out in traxo pants?
Mama, I'd like to introduce you to my friend Ringwood.
I can't even make those jokes anymore.
Ringwood has gone all upend, up end, high end.
High end.
It's all up end.
In ringy.
Oh, ringhole.
They need to change the fucking name.
Ringhole.
That's what we call it.
You don't, who calls it ringhole?
People from the surrounding areas.
I feel like Ringwood is already...
It's so bad.
It sounds like ringworm.
Yeah.
Terrible.
Ringwood.
You had Ringwood.
I had Rosebud at least has the word rose.
it.
Yeah.
It's just so funny because like Rosebud, obviously we all know what a rosebud is, a thing of beauty.
But like I've never considered Rosebud in that adjacency.
Yeah.
Like.
Well, it's like Sunshine.
Yes.
You're like, oh, it sounds beautiful.
And you're like, no, no.
Why don't you go to Sunshine sometime?
And figure it out for yourself.
Or Deer Park.
There's not any dears there, darling.
No.
Yeah.
What about, um,
What about us?
What about all the things without us?
Like red blue lens.
I'm watching a movie in 3D glasses.
I like that.
Yeah.
I like it a lot.
Also like a gift when I walk into the cinema.
Same with the like when 3D was really having a moment
and you got the ones that don't have red blue,
just like the clear ones.
Yeah.
That made me feel a bit sick.
But that was cool.
But they were so insistent upon returning them.
at the end.
Oh, back off.
I thought it was mine.
That did feel like a very signature of like going to a Bogan house during that time.
You'd see like the 3D glasses they'd stolen from IMEX on the like coffee table.
Yes.
What are you going to do with these?
What do you think about curved TVs so large that they have like a con curve or like monitor,
like computer monitors?
Yeah.
I don't like it.
I think it's weird.
I mean, yeah.
It's because you're never not going to be aware of the curve.
Right.
And I just, I mean, maybe it's because I've never fully glanced at one property.
You've got to sit right inside the curve.
Yeah, but like, what if I'm not?
And I'm often not that close.
Do you have a desktop?
No.
Yeah.
Not anymore.
Not for some time.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Good.
Sorry, this is just so entertaining.
Do you have a desktop?
I'm completely broken, it would seem.
Anyway, glasses.
I like glasses.
I like those ones with those hologlifts.
Like that.
Oh no, not those ones.
What is it called?
Holograms.
Not holograms, you fucking schmuck.
The one that you look through and it puts like stars on all the...
No.
No, it's like a skull.
It's on the outside.
It looks like one of those transmission holographs or whatever.
Skull.
You know, like you'd get them from a $2 store.
Yeah, they're made of like reflective, sunny.
Yeah.
It's like a true hologram.
True like...
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
But it's not cool.
It's like steampunk store.
Like holography kind of thing.
Yep.
I really want to have one of those maids.
Usually like got pictures of marijuana leaf in them.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's so cool.
You can get a kit online for about $500 where you get like 20 cells and you can make your own.
And you like...
And you know that because...
I really...
want to do it.
I really want to get the manufacture.
I'd love to make like a, you know, a sticker.
Like a true 3D sticker.
But the technology is actually like really, it's almost like, um, Polaroid film.
It's like there's not, like the people that used to be able to do it just can't do it anymore
because the way you have to do it is you have to have the physical object generally.
So if it's going to be the marijuana leaf, you have to have like a 3D sculpt of the marijuana leaf.
and then you put it near the exposed, like, kind of filmed, like, you know,
silver particle on glass, lay it on top of that, and then shoot a single laser beam
into the image, and it creates a 3D, like, emulsion,
so you can, like, look around the image when it's actually done.
It's incredible.
And we just abandon this technology.
That's cool.
Now they just use it for, like, eagles on credit cards.
Yeah.
Ridiculous.
I bought a wallamy pine at the flower and garden show.
Did you actually get it?
Yeah.
No wonder you're tired.
So it was like, we were finishing up and I'm just going to go and have like a walk around
in a bit of a shop.
Yeah.
I was like, what?
We're done.
Yeah, but you know, it comes but once a yaw.
You can't buy a wallamy pine anywhere else.
No, you can.
But they're incredible.
expensive so I was looking for a hot deal which I did how much like at pointins they're like for the
smallest ones they're like one probably 150 but I got mine for 80 dollars wow pretty good um and when I
got home and opened up the bag open that it was in there was like a certificate of authenticity
that had a sticker kind of like that was it real real did have a 3D image
No.
I don't want to just...
No.
No.
No, I don't want holographic, you know,
it was.
Vinyl with a flat image on top.
Because every time I fucking look for someone to manufacture it,
they're like, we do holographic stickers.
I'm like, no, you have holographic vinyl.
And you put a fucking logo flatly on top.
That is not the same, darling.
Yeah.
That is not the holograph.
That is not the transmission holography that I believe in.
No, that's...
You're not wrong.
Not wrong.
But I did wonder, like, okay, so I got this certificate, and it was charming, but it felt like someone had, I don't know, like designed it and printed it and then put a holographic sticker on it.
And because they use the word certificate of authenticity here.
It just like, who approved this?
Who approved?
Anyone can approve anything.
Yeah, but like, do you know what I mean?
A verified horticulturalist.
Yeah, but like, I mean, at the year.
verify it. But it just because it's all like this wank about like you know it's a part of
ancient history discovered in 1994 in New South Wales blah blah blah blah blah that's all very charming.
What is that mean? Yeah, Zilli you just say anything. So you're kind of skipping over the pilot.
Wallamy Pines were discovered in 1994 in this like previously very infrequently trekked part of a national park.
and it's this very old species of pine
and it only grows there the only place in the world
and it's unchanged from like dinosaur era times
so living fossil kind of thing like a lot of ferns or whatever
which is all very cool and like how convenient
that it came out around the same time as Jurassic Park that's cool
anyway but since then
thankfully the tree is quite easy to propagate and it's quite adaptable can be you know like has
survived all around the world now but it is still a very like rare niche plant that's why it's so
expensive um but yeah i don't know like all of that to say there's a lot of rare niche plants
and they don't all come with a certificate of authenticity like it unless i'm mistaken maybe there's
like only one retailer for the species or something.
I don't know.
Like I don't know.
But anyway, I just like, even when you get like a boozy ham, oh, well, I mean,
that's because there's knockoffs.
But like the ethics and morality of like knocking off a plant.
Like if you, but I mean, there is a whole world of.
What do you mean knocking off a plant?
Well, because like some cultivars are.
are...
Like, you can breed your own plants on, like, crossbreed and make your own cultivar,
which you could then arguably get the, like, patent for.
Right.
But a wallamy pine is just that.
So, like, some things are beyond that because they, you haven't done anything to it.
You've just propagated something that is from nature.
Yeah, it's not been bastard.
So it's like, how could anyone...
Like, you can't own the patent for the original.
that patent is owned by
Whoopi Goldberg as Gaia
You know like
So who is authorised
This certificate of authenticity
Because like when you buy a Gucci bag
That will come with that
To prove that it's not a knock off
But like you can't knock off
A plant
That isn't altered
Listen Zelda
I'm sad that you've got
So in the weeds about this
This is why I'm so tired
It's a charming touch
Could it be just a bit
It is. It is. It is. It was from that seller.
Anyway, it is. It's fine. It's a nice thing.
Because, just one more point on this.
There's those grass tree plants as well that are like thousands of dollars.
You know those grass tree ones?
And they've got like a black trunk and then a little tufty grass at the top.
Yes, I know her well.
And apparently, unless you sell that with a certificate,
or you're not allowed to sell them without a certificate
because people go into the forest and dig them up
and sell them.
That's interesting.
So maybe it's the same thing like that.
Like you're not allowed to sell them unless you've been like
authorized to grow them or something.
Yes.
Oh, Matt.
That can very much be in.
Do you know what I will say just quickly though about the flower and garden show?
Oh, yes.
I wish I'd had glasses.
the displays were not it
I was like
sorry where is the taste
what is happening
I was looking around I was like looking at the bouquets
I was like vomatorium.com
some of those displays should be
like I'm glad that those are going to be dead now
at time of recording
because like who was doing this
Because I associate, like, I think that there's some real, you know, fab, top-tier people working in the garden space.
And it's usually like a space that's kind of hard to make ugly, generally, because you're working with, like, beautiful things that are, like, just kind of, yeah, like, you have to kind of fuck it up to make it look bad.
And I think I saw a lot of tortured objects with, like, we painted this space.
basket pink and now this like coconut husk is all painted pink yeah with some like shitty plants
that don't grow together crammed together in a basket yeah i was like i don't think that you're here
for the spirit of what a garden should be yes there's always this confused mix of you know what like i
kind of can see it in a world of like the queens who go on drag race
and are just like the most like
I've been watching drag race for 20 years
and this is so I'm doing drag now
and this is drag.
Yeah.
Like just the most generic drag queen looks
and vibe and the way they talk and all that stuff.
Same too is like so many of those like
landscaping exhibitions, floral arrangements,
all that stuff is like this is what you do at the garden show
so this is what I'll be doing.
This is my version of this.
Yeah.
It's very rare that you see like,
an authentic and therefore interesting execution.
Like they all, like, things just fall into these like particular tropes there.
And yeah, you see it year after year.
I saw a topiary or like a, I don't know, a guided apple tree that these women had put up for their women's garden.
And I was like, oh my God, there's apples on that tree.
and I was like, are those
are those real apples
They're like, yeah
Are they growing out of that tree
And they're like, I'm like
Oh, so you've pinned apples to the tree
Sorry, what the fuck is this?
Artifice in the garden
In the woman's garden no less
Haven't women been through enough?
Oh, the thought of them waking up early
Threading those apples
With transparent fishing lines
So they could hang it
lies. Propagating lies is what you're doing.
Wow. It's stupid. I'm sorry. Bring out the astroturf, I guess,
given that we're not doing things real. We're hanging up apples. Like it's Willy Wonka's
fucking chocolate factory. Yeah. Can I say more? So like when I was walking around,
doing a little after after performance shop in my hard jacket shirt and beat face,
Oh, the looks that I got.
Although some people came up,
this woman came up and was like,
oh, you got a lot of laughs tonight?
It's like, wait, were you not there?
No, she wasn't talking about it on the stage.
And then, yeah, just most of the people
who were like working at their stall,
who obviously didn't know that there were drag queens doing trivia
in the thing, just like politely,
just not saying anything.
about my ridiculous appearance.
But it's so funny walking around because you go from like these,
you know, like this stall that has like beautiful, expensive Japanese tools and snips and cool things
and like Iqabana supplies and all this stuff.
And then like the rare plant stall and then the tulip stall.
We can get every tulip you've ever desired and all these cool things.
and then I walk past the like
the broom store
at this display of this particular new bristle that they had
no one is in that store
and then you know you're up to the carnivorous plant store
and then Garden Express with their
you know incredible displays
and then you get to the felt hat store
I saw a lot of felt hats
you know it's like the Mickey ears
of that whole place
Yes.
Couples walking around with their like cuted little like,
like they kind of were made to look like little buds,
like flower buds or something like that.
Yeah. But felt it.
Yeah.
The ladder stall, of course.
How much does it cost to get into the show?
I don't know.
Well, I never know.
Okay, glasses.
Glasses.
I think, Matt, do you have any thoughts on glasses before we lock something in?
Well, I do wear glasses.
Oh, I forgot that you're a.
You've got four eyes.
You've got four eyes.
Do you know one time my wife always calls me four eyes?
Because I told her this story once.
My wife.
I was walking from university.
This was probably about 13 years ago now.
I was walking from university to the train station in Box Hill.
And there was a woman lying in the gutter, crying.
And that was your wife?
And that's how I met my wife.
And I went over to her
I was like, what is going on?
And then there was a man on the other side of the street
just yelling abuse at her.
And I was like, holy shit, something's gone down.
And she was like sobbing and being like,
don't talk to me.
And he was like, what you're fucking?
Yeah, we got.
Jesus.
And I was like, Jesus.
And I went up to her and I was like, are you okay?
Do you need help?
And she just turned on me.
What the fuck do you want?
Four eyes?
Incredible.
And I was like, okay, and I just left because I was, yeah.
Just trying to help.
Oh, you're just trying to help.
I was.
That's really funny.
And it was really sad.
She just took all of that emotional abuse and just turned it on to me.
Oh my God, that's really good.
It is an outrageous thing to think that, like, why on
earth would you make fun of someone for needing to wear glasses?
Like four eyes, it's so cruel.
But funny.
In how limp it is.
I recently saw on that story, Matt,
Mike Babiglia being interviewed,
interviewing John Mulaney.
And John was like, well, you know, you have your like iconic Frank Sinatra story.
Why haven't you ever used that?
And then Mike Bribigli is like, oh, it doesn't really have a punchline.
And he's like, no, it's my favorite story you've ever told me.
And Mike Buegley is like, okay, well, the story is my auntie and I were talking on the phone.
I was like, have you ever been to a concert?
And she's like, oh, yeah, like back in the day, Frank Sinatra came to our small American town.
And we went to go and see him.
And he loved him.
We're all like teenagers.
And then they like, we're so in love.
with him we ran around to the alley like the stage door at the end of the show
to say hello to him and then he came out we're like Frankie baby we love you we love
you and then he pushed past and said get out of the way you pigs you fat pigs
and got it into a limo and drove away
Jesus
Jesus Christ and then he was like and they still love Franks tonight
Oh, my God.
I'd love him more.
The sequels are not trying to help that.
Get on the way, four eyes.
You're a loser.
He's a real man.
You'll never be like it.
Oh, my God.
It's life.
Wow.
That's it.
I like love the MyGo glosses thing.
That's very tragic.
My girl.
The film My Go?
Spoilers for the film, My Girl, McCauley Colkin, little baby McCauley Colkin from Home Alone.
It's about a girl who grows up in a funeral parlour.
Her dad is a widower, and he's just gotten with a new woman, played by Susan Surrendon, young Susan Surrendon.
And anyway, it's just about her growing up and how kind of complicated her life is, growing up in this funeral home with her dad as the undertaker and trying to accept this new woman and her best friend who's like, they're both.
with like, I don't know, 10, is McCauley Coulkin, but he's like a little glasses wearing nerd,
who's like allergic to everything, and his mom's like a massive kind of munch house by proxy
kind of overbearing mother.
But they have fun, and there's long summer days that never end in this small American town.
And then he's got a crush on her, and they had their first kiss together,
and it's really cute, down by the leg.
And then he gives her a gift.
Oh, maybe it's no.
Maybe he doesn't give it.
Maybe it was from her mother, her dead mother.
But anyway, she gets a mood ring, a gorgeous little mood ring.
And then at one point, she loses the mood ring.
And McCauley Colkin, and she's really upset, devastating.
It must be for the life.
And so then she goes, McCauley Colkin, without being asked, goes into the woods where they were to try and find the mood ring on his own.
And he finds the mood ring.
And as he does, he upsets a beast.
nest.
And then he gets stung by the bees, but he's deathly allergic to bees and goes into
anaphylactic shock alone in the woods and dies.
Oh.
And then they have his funeral at the funeral home where she lives.
That's convenient.
And like she's so upset.
But like they're having the funeral downstairs.
She can't even bear to be there because it's her best friend in the entire world,
the only person that she'll ever love.
and then they're doing an open casket
and the mother's grieving,
everyone's grieving and there are all these adults downstairs
and she's just completely heartbroken
and then she comes downstairs and glances in
and sees that he's had this open casket funeral
but he doesn't have his glasses on
and she's like, he needs his glasses,
he can't see without his glasses.
And she like is screaming at everyone in this room
and all the adults like...
That's where he can't see without his glasses comes from?
Oh my God.
And it's so sad.
Wow, yeah.
That is ringing a bell.
Yeah.
Jays.
Yeah.
Oh.
Paul McCulley.
And he's so cute in that film.
This has just made me think of something.
Okay.
What about this?
Why aren't there?
Like, imagine a horror film.
Oh!
Perfect.
It's a real spooky one.
where like, I don't know, like a classic house possession or...
Like a lamp?
The lamp is possessed?
Oh, no, I thought you were talking about possessions.
Oh.
Like things that are on.
A broom.
No, sorry, you go.
You went to that stall at the pharangana.
Or like, yeah, like a demon is like stalking someone.
or like a possession, you know, like someone's possessed.
Why don't we have the film where like the first half is all about, yeah, like the little, little, you know, teenage girl gets possessed by Pizzou and, you know, the exorcism's failing and da-da-da-da-da-da.
But we don't know that she's deathly allergic to bees.
And at one point she's out in the garden whimsically and gets stung by a bee and she drops dead.
Like, and then the demon just like has lost its host and then that's the end of the possession.
Or like, like, why do we have more things like that?
I think he's describing hereditary.
Wait, am I?
Well, right, because the little girl is possessed by the devil.
Yeah.
And they wanted it to be in a son.
So they have to figure out how to kill her.
And then she's allergic to nuts and they kill her with the nut allergy.
Oh.
I'm at the top way through the film.
Oh, that's good.
No wonder that's such a good film.
That's love.
Okay, well, I guess the last thing I'm going to throw on,
the Lady Gaga's influence on glasses.
Oh, God.
You know, she obviously did the paparazzi video
with those incredible flip-down Mickey Mouse star glasses.
She also had those stupid house.
of Gaga ones where they took the screens
out of two iPods and made
screens that say
Lady Gaga
flashing that you can't see through
stupid
but amazing
I like glasses that have a curly straw in them
you can see it perfect
that had been a banner year for when those came out
at the glasses and
I wishers yeah
I'd find it
But, like, there's so little that you can do in the, like, base.
Like, everything you do in designing an object like that is so restricted.
Like, there's only so many shapes and so many things that could fit in the world of glasses.
However.
So true, Zelda.
Oh, yeah.
You both laughed.
But someone at work the other day was wearing the most conty set of frames.
And I was like, oh, you're wearing like gentle monster.
Gentle monster.
Yeah.
And he's like, yeah.
It's like, oh, you're Tilda Swinton.
And it just struck me how, you know, like creating a unique design and something that is so done can still be done.
And that's quite special.
All right.
I guess on that.
Also, those glasses that have magnets on the bridge of the nose and wrap around the back of the head.
Oh, yeah.
Like, you know, a doctor might wear them in CSI and Miami.
Yes.
And you'd tug at one side and they like snap apart.
Oh, yeah.
Kind of reveal glasses.
Yes, I like that.
Yeah.
What about...
What about us?
No, I lost it.
Okay.
How did I lose that so quickly?
The doctor glasses.
So is it going to be the googly eye glasses?
Yes.
Okay.
On springs.
So who is wearing those?
How long should they be?
We did have a pair of glasses in the bunker at one point.
Well?
And then Brenda took them off the bayonetta.
Let's give bayonetta the gulley glasses.
And since you insist.
Oh my God.
Wait, can they have the frames that she needs, like the lenses that she needs underneath the springs?
I think they can be at the end.
Of the googly eye?
So when they, if they occasionally snap up into full position, she'd be like,
she can see for a second.
Wow.
Yeah.
Evil.
Like bayonetta.
She's a witch?
She is.
Okay.
Well, we'll be back.
No way.
Hello and welcome back.
Hello.
It's time for our next category.
Which will be discussed with us via the speakhole.
Enormous Jean has sent through a speakhole for us today.
Is this a femme presenter human being?
Unsure.
I don't think it's drag race Italia contended Enorma Jean, who was fabulous.
Okay.
Well, let's find out.
Play the speak hole.
See.
Hello.
This is War Machine, Melbourne's first and only attack helicopter in a wig.
Hello, lazy Susan, hello Zelda Moon, hello Matt Shears,
hello guest if applicable, long-time listener, first-time caller.
In the spirit of witchy girls coming out, I think we need to put something from the film
and the screen back into the bunker to celebrate, and I've got a proposition for you.
So as you are going to be no longer just casting pods,
but also casting spells on the worldwide universe.
the same World Wide Web that we get screaming off movies and also TV shows.
Madam West.
You're putting you into the same realm as those actors.
You'll be on the same IMDB as J-Lo is with This Is Me Now.
True.
This is me now.
And you both have drag characters based on women that you have different lived experiences to.
Two gay men playing straight women, lazy Susan, a tradwife, possibly Mormon, Zelda Moon, a horse girl, ethically monogamous.
he should flip that script
and put in
the best fraudulent gay icon from TV or movie
I'm thinking
Will from Will and Grace
Mee
Megan Malali
Yeah
What was her name again?
I don't know
But she was
Canonically bisexual as a character
But rescinded on bisexuality in real life
Did she rescind?
Most of the gay characters from DeGrassey
But not Marco, he came out
Oh good for him
The Hot One, Not The Smart One
Played by Conrad Wickamora
from How to Get Away with Murder.
Conrad Wicka Morgan.
You and McGregorne.
I love you, Philip Morris.
Or, to mention some bad ones,
Dame Edna or Dumbledore.
Tell me what you think.
If not, we'd love to hear you just wrap about it.
But put one in the bunker.
Oh, this is a great category,
attack helicopter.
Have you heard that meme?
I'm going to butcher this,
but the attack helicopter thing?
Say more?
I believe,
Okay, everyone, please get off my dick already because I know this is going to be like completely butchered.
But there was an alt-right, alt-right guy who was obviously infuriated by the existence of trans people.
And we're like, by that logic, I could be a fucking, like, I'm a attack helicopter.
And then someone wrote this like incredible fan fiction about someone who transitioned.
into being an attack helicopter.
And it became like this like
meme of it like I now identify as an attack.
Attack helicopter.
Yeah.
Is that like when I put down Jedi is my religion on the census?
Kind of.
I did that twice and then I got over it.
I hate you.
You hate that?
I won't believe it.
Okay.
So wait, which faker?
Which acting gay but not actually gay?
I sexually identify as an attack helicopter.
helicopter.
Oh, my God.
Sorry.
Um,
hmm.
The story was finalist for the 2021 Hugo Award under the title Helicopter story.
That's amazing.
That is amazing.
Okay, so it wasn't, okay.
Okay.
Sorry.
Great.
So fake gaze.
Fake gaze.
I didn't realize Megan Malali was no longer identifying herself as bisexual.
Well, she's trapped in the oceanarium.
Leave her alone.
That's right.
She's already in, so it's not even worth.
discussion.
Yes.
Eric McCormack, obviously, Will and Grace.
I don't know why.
Yeah, I think there is something.
Hang on, which one of Will and Grace isn't gay?
Will.
Will, right.
Yeah.
Other one's gay.
He's Toki Lukie Time.
Yeah, but he also, um, he wasn't out at the time of Will and Grace.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, he was worried it would damage his career.
Well, he went on to do Turkey Lucky Time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who else is gay, but not gay?
What about Shalome?
He's not gay.
Timitay, Shalamee.
Yeah.
What did I want to talk about him?
We're going to watch that movie.
It will take someone forcing me to watch it.
And we're going to put it on Patreon.
We're not going to do the whole,
Godwin should be able to watch it.
And then we'll do just a quick after show where you discuss your feelings.
Yeah, okay.
That is good.
Okay.
Then we also like the clockwork orange chair.
Yeah.
It's like truly
I yeah
we we should do that
movie club is coming back
Patreon
um
other fake gays
um
well apparently that guy
oh god
no I'm not gonna do it
I haven't seen it
tell us
no no no it's only because I was like
I couldn't remember the name of the actor
and I haven't seen the film where he's playing gay
so I have actually no valuable information to bring to this
um
I should still throw it out there's like you know that guy was in that film
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that guy.
We're not putting him in.
No.
No.
What about, are all the queerest folk gay is gay?
They're all gay.
I think they're.
America version.
But that one whose sons of anarchy, he's not gay.
And he was the twink in the UK version.
Ah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Gay guys.
Gay guys.
I mean, obviously the two gays, oh, well, one of the gay.
is out of modern family is not gay.
Yes.
Which is crazy.
He's got a wife.
Wait, which one?
The Redhead or the...
No, that's Jesse Tyler Ferguson.
He's straight.
I mean, he's...
He's gay.
But Cam, the other guy is...
Straight?
Straight?
Oh, my.
I know.
I'm insulted.
Hmm.
He's had a wife this entire...
Stanley Tootie's not gay?
Yeah, did you know that?
No.
That's great.
The internet's telling me that right now.
I feel like Stanley Tucci's the good version of that.
I like...
like his gay guy.
Yeah, like the Prada one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was the best part of that film.
Yeah.
Apart from Meryl.
Well, two of the four parts of the film.
What are the other two parts?
Anne.
And Emily.
Emily.
And Entourage.
Yeah.
Oh, and that awful boyfriend.
Antaraj.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, wait, is he an entourage?
He's the main guy.
Adrenia.
The entourage of the movie.
Yeah.
And Tracy Tom's.
She's good.
I love Tracy Tom's.
She's the friend.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know in it.
I don't know in it.
But yeah.
No, I like Merrill and I like Stanley, but I don't like Anne or Emily.
I think they're both bad in that film.
I think Emily Blunt is bad.
What do you think about James Franco in milk?
James Franco in milk.
When is he been in milk?
Isn't he like the side piece?
A big puddle of milk floating on.
No, he was, yeah.
Yeah.
With Sean Penn.
Wait, but then isn't he in like a gay porno film?
Yeah, Cobra.
Cobra, King Cobra.
King Cobra Cobra.
Cobra guy.
He fights.
James Franco in that way is very similar to that other one.
from true blood.
What's his name?
Eric.
Ryan Quentin.
No.
You know the Scars Guard.
Yeah.
He's not a faggot, right?
No.
That's outrageous.
To me.
Have you seen Pillion?
Billion?
No, but yeah.
Apparently it's okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Is it like...
Dudley-Dersley gets fucked up the ass.
Sorry?
Dudley dancing gets fucked on the ass
Wait, is it Dudley
It's donely
It's done it gets fucked on the ass
It's so weird
By Skarsgard
By he's the gimp
To Skarsgarde's dog
He is a bit gimpy
That's time
Should I see that?
I'd see that before I watch
Fucking call me by your name
Um
I mean listen
You can see everything
You want to see in this life
True
Um
Um
Well you know Damien from Mean Girls
wasn't out
When they made that and was like, I'm straight.
You know, all the male leads in that film, Mean Girls,
were turned out to be gay.
Oh, really?
Like Aaron.
Aaron.
Aaron.
Yeah.
He's gay.
Gay.
The athlete's leader.
Yeah.
He's gay.
Yeah.
And then Damien, he's gay.
Hmm.
The dad, I guess, didn't turn out to be gay.
But he didn't turn out to not come back for the Scrubs revival.
Crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What about...
I'm trying to think of the more offensive ones.
What do you think about the brokeback boys?
Excuse me.
Brokeback boys.
Jake Gillenhol.
Oh.
And Heath.
Heath.
Okay, can I say my case for like that kind of casting?
Yeah.
is like if you are getting someone to play a flamer,
like someone who's been socialized and is living out as a gay man.
Yeah.
Then cast someone who's culturally gay.
Yeah.
If you need someone who's playing someone who is deeply in the closet
and confined by kind of heteronormitivity of the 1960s of like rural Montana,
you can cast a straight man for that.
Yeah.
I feel like they're more intimately acquainted with what is.
it's like to be like socialized straight.
Yeah.
Then I am.
Don't cast me is what I'm saying.
In Burke Beck Mountain 2.
Broken tab.
And you know I didn't like in that film?
And.
Wait, the woman?
Wait, isn't she a lesbian?
Anne Hathaway.
No, the blonde picture cut.
Michelle Williams.
Yeah.
She's lesbian, I recently?
No, she was with Heath.
No? She's with Heath?
Not anymore.
Well, no.
They have Matilda.
A child?
They have a child that lives in Perth, Matilda.
How do you know this?
I'm obsessed with that child.
She's the last thing we have of him.
But is she's in, but I'm a cheerleader.
Is she?
I don't know, she's in, like, lesbian things.
She was in Dawson's Creek.
Yeah.
Wasn't she a lesbian in that?
No.
She was trying to get with the, the Vanderbeek.
Oh.
On the creek.
Van der Beak on the creek.
She's lesbian.
No.
No. Michelle Williams, not a lesbian.
No, okay. That's fine.
Okay.
I mean, listen, I don't know her alphabet.
Yeah.
And I don't, I don't pretend to.
But she's straight.
Okay.
Until proven otherwise.
I think, I mean, acting is all about playing things that you're not.
Like Scarlet Johansen.
I could play a tree.
Scarjo could play anything.
Yeah.
And she has.
Yes.
Whether she should or not.
She could play a ghost?
She could play a ghost in a shell.
I was trying to explain to someone recently
the wonder that is Aon Flux
and when you look up Aon Flux
all you get is Charlize's Aon Flux.
Yeah.
Which I'm like, no, no, it's not like this.
But also when that Aeon Flux movie came out,
it felt like, wow, I can't believe
that they're making an Aon Flux movie.
But looking back in time,
I think AonFlox came out in 2006 or something, maybe eight or nine.
The movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But AonFlox, the series, came out in the 90s.
Yeah.
So it was only like 10 years later that it got turned into a movie.
That living in that time felt like it would have been like when they made Lord of the Rings.
Like, oh, that came out 50 years ago.
Yeah.
But it was actually quite tight and therefore even worse somehow.
Who was it?
It was the director who did Jennifer's body and-
Did AonFlox?
Yeah.
And she had just made her feature debut, which was the film that discovered Michelle Rodriguez.
Oh.
Called like kick puncher or something.
Sucker Punch?
No, no.
Karen Kisama.
And so like she had made her first film.
It had been like this huge like indie darling.
And then she.
was like okay well what the fuck
Girl Fight was her first film
and then she pitched
on like
basically everyone like was pitching
on Aon Flux like we have the rights
to Aon Flux we're going to make a movie
and like everyone
like big big
directors and she was like someone who'd done one
film out of a film
like film festival like Sundance
and came in with this pitch and was like
so like I
need this job I have
like the pitch and everyone who saw it loved it everyone who thought like so like thought it was incredible
yeah she shot the film edited it and then people were like well this is really like morose and kind of
sad and like weird and kind of a like long-form critique on like capitalism and like blah blah and so
they took the film away from her and then completely re-edited it to be like 70 minutes or 80 minutes like
just enough to put it in the theater.
Yeah.
And yeah, it was completely destroyed, not the film that she'd set out to make it all.
Oh my God.
And then she, like, still a trooper turned out to all the premieres.
Wow.
And so when she went to the premiere, she, like, was there, sat in the audience, watched
the film that everyone fucking hated.
And then she's like, I got really drunk, went home to my hotel and just sobbed the rest of the night.
I think I recall you telling me this story before.
It's more haunting.
hearing it.
So sad.
And then she was basically not able to get a film made for about 10 years.
Yeah.
Because people blamed her for the failure of the film.
Wow.
Because she's a woman, obviously.
And then she made Jennifer's body.
And once again, was put in director's jail because people like, this isn't sexy.
Like, we made the advertising look.
And she's like, no, because it's not about how sexy.
Jenna, Megan Markleys.
Megan Fox is.
It's about how sexy future princess Megan Michael.
But yeah.
It's not about that.
No.
Anyway, and now it's been reclaimed.
And now Karen Kisama is back.
Yeah, baby.
And it's just really bit tragic.
She would be great for that.
Like that's actually what she would be really good for.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Okay, so which faker gets in?
Faker!
Fake.
You know who, I hope, isn't completely fake?
Who, they're already in the bunker,
but Christopher Maloney plays big old bisexual fag in Oz.
And I also, I don't know.
He made out with that other guy at the Oscars or whatever that time.
Like, surely he's a little gay.
No, I don't think.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye-bye.
He's in any way, but, you know, I just wish.
Is Richard E Grant straight?
That would be my pick.
No.
He couldn't be.
I think he's got a wife.
Posh nash.
I love Richard Grant.
Me too.
Did you love him in Loki season one?
Joan Washington he's been married to since 1986.
As Loki?
Until a death in 2021.
He played Loki.
They have a daughter named Olivia.
Did you like that?
I, we would.
would like to say that Richard A. Grant is the gay.
He's stuck in the void with all the other Loki.
You know, it's like alligator loki, kid loki.
Zella.
Did you love that?
Richard E. Grant is in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Just, it claims another soul.
Zella.
Oh, Richard E. Grant is in.
Like Spice World.
That's great.
Well, Spice World, but my favorite Richard E. Grant is poshnotch.
What is Poshnosh?
What girl I for my...
Poshnosh was like him and some like, female.
Female.
No, I just don't know her name.
Woman-shaped thing.
No!
Attack helicopter!
Oh my God.
And they...
In that, he plays like the gay husband who's like sleeping with the tennis coach.
And it's like a fake cooking show that must have been part of a sketch comedy,
but I've only ever seen like, and I've seen them many times, like all the
clips of on YouTube and they yeah it's like making fun of cooking shows but it's called poshosh
and the recipes that they make are outrageous and it's just richardy grant and that woman
i can't remember who it is but she's equally fabulous maybe even more so um surely i've forced you to
watch that at some point no really yeah posh noh noh is very funny say posh nash wait you're gonna
watch it now and you'll be like wait that's half of the things that you've been saying for the
It's 10 years.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Anyway, so that's good.
Well, Richard, you're in.
We love you.
Today, we've put in Richard E. Grant and googly eyes on frames.
Springy googly eyes.
Yes, which bayonetta now has to wear.
Now, you will forgive us.
We're doing a short one.
We have to get to the flower and garden show, part two.
What?
Oh, my God.
It's called yes and not what.
We have somewhere else to be
Don't block the flow with your beaver
Yeah
Hey, I'm making a damn good case
That's a good pun
You know what
We're canceling this show
Oh my God
I've had it
The tensions
I've had an all time high
Okay
Okay
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