Death To Everyone - Death To... Glasses & Straight Actors Doing LGBTQI+ Roles

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Dasha. Hello. Is anyone there? Imagine, listener, you are at the bottom of a well and we peer atop the well. Our body's obscuring the sunlight that's been bathing you since you fell down this well. You know our voice is saying,
Starting point is 00:00:44 Dasha! Listener! How are you? How'd you get down there? It kind of probably sounds similar. If you want to replicate the well experience, obviously after they get you out of the well, You feel relieved, but also a part of you craves to return.
Starting point is 00:01:00 So you could put your phone inside of a coffee cup, and it will sound like us yelling at you from down the well where we discovered you. Yes, and if you look into that coffee cup through a toilet roll, I could help create the well experience, usually. We found listener wandering around the halls of office works, holding posters up to their eye, and peering through as if they were down a long tube. what?
Starting point is 00:01:27 I just wanted to replicate the well experience. Oh, yes. Yeah. You know, like, the beacons filled miners? You know how those two men got trapped in that beacons? Well, those more than two, but those are the two survivors. I thought. Anyway, two men trapped down a well together.
Starting point is 00:01:46 They're not friends anymore. Well, they weren't friends at the time. But one of them had an iPod and listened to, what was it? Dave Grohl What's his band? Nirvana No the other one What was his project after
Starting point is 00:02:02 Nirvana? Rage against him The Food Fighters So he got really He said When he came out When he came out Of the well
Starting point is 00:02:12 Of the mine Wait Dave Grohl Was in the mine? No Well he was spiritually Because the guy Had an iPod And listened to
Starting point is 00:02:22 Dave Grohl nonstop. And then Dave Grohl, the Food Fighters, were so touched that they wrote a song in honor of the Beaconsfield Minors and then they went and performed it in Tasmania and have kept a lifelong connection with this kind of local hero. Wow. Who survived in the mine. The other guy wasn't listening to anything. Doesn't have a song for him. Oh, no iPod. Yeah. Damn. He's listening to Kalees. Kalees. Hmm. Yeah. Because of you. that song? No, it's like, my milkshake brings all the boss of the year.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Anyway, I'm lazy Susan. And I'm Zelda Moon. And our producer is Matt Chars. Hello, again. Hello, again. Matt Chess is our producer, and we are, of course, two celestial goddesses flying through the vacuum of space in our space car being driven by our producer-slash-driver. And it is our job, our duty, our profound honor,
Starting point is 00:03:23 to every week come on to. It's a calling, I think. Yeah, it's a true calling. Do you know the show True Calling? The girl's name in it is true. T.R.U. Yeah, like Trudy Calling. It's Trudy Calling.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Same with Bones. Is it a name Bones? Well, it's a nickname. They call it Bonesy. Bonesy. What's a regular name? Zoyd-Shanel sister. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Bonesy. It's more of a ring to it, I suppose. Oh, it's skinny. Skinny. Anyway, our true calling is to decide every week what goes into our doomsday bunker. Yes. And what from culture and society should survive the very, very imminent apocalypse. Closer day by day.
Starting point is 00:04:13 You know what? When we started this podcast, we were such jaded millennials. Say, oh, it does feel like the apocalypse is really around the bend. Well, now it really feels like that. How crazy. Yeah. All things just keep getting better. Or at least that's what they said.
Starting point is 00:04:29 The fuel was. Yeah. I actually was talking to someone the other day being like, I think what if Donald Trump turns out to be the president with the greatest positive environmentalist impact? Because of his fuckery in the street of Amuz. Like what if everyone? turns to EV and embraces solar and wind. You would hate that. But like because he put a huge spotlight on how fragile the oil market is.
Starting point is 00:05:05 That'd be crazy. I know a lot of people, I mean, like, yeah, like my dad's thinking about getting an EV now. My father, I don't think he realizes how tiny those cars are. Is he like because? He likes like a big, because he's a big American man. He likes a gas gas gas. He likes a car with a big tall roof and, like, you know, something for him to fit in easily.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Did they not make a larger EV? I don't know, actually. I'm speaking out of term, but I assume that they don't. No. My dad got one. Oh, does they, it's like a, um. A pejora style. It's like a, yeah, it's like a yute.
Starting point is 00:05:43 They, um, they have electric eutes now. Oh, my God. I don't know if it's a hybrid or if it's just a full electric. I think it's just a full electric. full electric. It's like a, it's called BYD. Yeah. Oh, B. YD. I've experienced that. They're pretty good. They're very fancy. They're definitely not like the rough and rugged yutes. No, they're more like, it's more like a Tesla adjacent experience. It's kind of giant screen. Yeah. On it. Yeah. iPad. Mm. Yeah. They're so distracting. Yeah. It's really terrible.
Starting point is 00:06:17 What's like how do you define the difference between a, remote controlled car, famously powered by electricity, and an EV. I feel like that's just an upsize. You just got to climb inside? Yeah, that's fun. A remote control car. Yeah. Like one of those ones that they're forward and sideways.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Get inside your Waymo. Waymo. The self-driving car that they have in America. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Would you get inside a self-driving car? Are they legal now in America?
Starting point is 00:06:50 In some places. Wow. You can get in, in L.A., Sam Pran. I think they were trying to roll it out in Boston, according to some podcast I was listening to it. And all the Boston people were like, no, fuck off.
Starting point is 00:07:05 We don't want your fucking self-driving car. But then they were like, it's safer, and they're like, no, it isn't. And they're like, but yes, it is. You know? And that's fun. So much fun. Anyway, how have you been, Zelda Moon?
Starting point is 00:07:24 I don't know if you can tell listener, I'm a touch exhausted. Yeah, it has just been a very, very, very long week at work. It has been very complex and very busy. Nothing bad. I'm just exhausted. But that's how entertaining to listen to. She's that a hard life, our girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:50 But part of why I'm so tired is that in amongst all of that work, I had a gig that I loved. Oh my Godin' Garden Show with my sister, Lizzie Susan. You were there? I was there. You got invited too. I did, yeah. Who invited you?
Starting point is 00:08:07 The flower and the garden people. I met the head of the Flower and Garden show. He was a man in khaki pants and a khaki top, and that wasn't what I was expecting. He's got now. It seems to be like Silver Fox, I guess. Yeah. What an insane room to play to?
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah, okay. So I did this gig last year and I enjoyed, but it is a rather unique experience. Lazy, how did you find the proceedings? Well, number one, honored to be invited. And thank you to Brianna for having us. Yes. because it was quite chic and fabulous to be in the Royal Exhibition Building.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Next to what guns is that? Coulton Gardens. The Coulton Gardens, which are all decked out. So they fence off the publicly owned gardens and give it over to a paid event for one of the weeks. And then people set up these fabulous displays, like all the landscape architects, all the gardening companies, all the wholesale trading. in the gardening space, set up stalls, and it's just a giant expo.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And then inside of the main room is a lot of the florals protected from the elements. And people can set up different, like, yeah, bouquets and displays. And then there's like a kind of end of the room where they've set up a kind of audience moment. Yeah, the main stage.
Starting point is 00:09:45 The main stage. And it's not unlike drag expo. or drag con. It does. Like it, yeah, it just feels like a con experience. Yeah. Just with plants instead of like. Drag queens.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Yeah, or like deviant art. Artists selling A5 versions of their, you know. A 3D printed dragon that's articulated. Yes. And it comes from a shell that's also 3D printed. Oh, look, we've done it in an oil slick. But the room is massive. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And so it doesn't calculate. capture sound. Oh. So when you speak into it, it's like speaking out into an abyss. Yes. Like this right? The abyss. And then we were hired to bring a bit of light, levity and fun to the Twilight
Starting point is 00:10:34 offerings. Gardens by Twilight. And so we repeated what Zelda had done the year before, which was a trivia. And then we did a spot number. And then we also. We also did a presentation. Yes. And we put famous examples of plants and flowers into a tier list,
Starting point is 00:10:59 ranking them against each other as to what was the most fabulous of all. And in S-tier, we ended up with, well, I say, wait, I designated the placement in the tier. Yeah, Zol really put some on the scale in this one. Mortisha Adams and her roses. that's S-tier. Midsummer May Queen, that was S-tier. And then two things I can't recall. Oh, exactly.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Yeah. And somehow, Audrey, too, was just a A-tier from Little Shepahara's. I just don't know what this woman is on about. Well, I haven't seen it. Yeah, she's drunk, drunk with power. But, yeah, I want you to imagine that presentation. And, like, where does that fit with the middle-aged women? and young children that are coming to the flower and garden show for some wholesome kind of
Starting point is 00:11:51 tips about how to make a bouquet and they're suddenly subjected to a tier list. Yeah. Like they're watching a YouTube video at 3 in the morning. Yes, but no, it's 8 o'clock at night at the flower and garden show. But I think we got away with it. Oh, absolutely. And it is the same thing that happened last year where, like, while you're in the experience on stage, it's like, wow, this is, this is an interesting one.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I'm sure how this is going. But then you get offstage and there's a line of people wanting photos and they're like, oh my God, that was so cute. Thank you so much. So they're not very vocal in the performance? They are not hoodin and hollering. They're just staring at you. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Politely sitting and listening and that's it. Well, these are garden people. Yes. But it's very wholesome. Yeah. I like, yeah. That was cute. Survived that.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And then we went along to, no, then I went along to Brunswick Ballroom for Bruno's party. Yes, how was? It was really fab. It was actually so cute. I think that they, yeah, Brunswick Ballroom, a very fabulous venue. Very grand. parquet floor or whatever and like a giant lid light ceiling
Starting point is 00:13:17 and like it's a grand ballroom and there were just like a lot of gays that were having a fun all time and did it the number that I did when I was on drag race on tour and it was just super effective those people were like yeah
Starting point is 00:13:37 did you activate the staircase? Oh, did I? I was inside of my man suit and I came down from the top of the staircase. That is ambitious. Which is a very steep stairs. Yes. And inside of my man's suit, my entire body is covered. My arms are flush with my chest so I can't even reach up to the banister.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And my eye line is about the size of a five-cent piece. So I'm peering as if from a well down a staircase that I now have to traverse in. Six in chills. Six in chills. So that was fun and I didn't die. And also like there's these occasions where I stumble into like little, I don't know, clusters of people that I haven't seen or been in the company of since Drag Race. And then suddenly it's like I've just been on the show because I went for a little trip
Starting point is 00:14:40 truck like around the club after my spot. Yeah. And I was like, people are like, oh my God. Hi, how are you doing? Oh, congratulations on your win. And I was like, that was two years ago. And they're like, can we get a photo? Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Thank you. Ooh, it continues. Yes. I like it. Yeah. Dan M. Rends. I know.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It was very chic. And then I went home and I woke up the next morning and made a balcony for Pooquet. This is very important It was a very good little video sister Yeah we go Please explain for the people who don't know I had bought my husband
Starting point is 00:15:19 Dyso poo cat And for Christmas But among many other things It was just a stocking stuff for real A squishy cat Yeah like a cat that you like squeeze It's made out of a kind of thick, quite robust vinyl And then as you squeeze it
Starting point is 00:15:37 it poohs out like a bright orange kind of putty um and then a stress ball yeah kind of um but yeah it became his favorite gift um and the thing that he admires most and so now pukkah has sat on the shelf for a long time although it's putty has since dried out um but then the the plan was commenced of like we need to find a proper way to display pukat so that he gets the love and admiration that he deserves in this life. And in the next. Yeah, so I made a little balcony out of dolls, balconies. Balconies for doll houses.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Stuck on the wall. Dolls and cats. Small ones. It's cute. What a great place to live now. He can just sit up there and watch everything. Yeah, exactly. Poop when he needs to.
Starting point is 00:16:30 It's very important. Lazy Susan, will you destroy this planet now, please? Yes. I'm going to destroy this planet by, let's just do an oil crisis. Oh, yeah. Okay. Mad Max style. Exactamundo.
Starting point is 00:16:47 So there is a collapse of the world oil refineries and not enough time to catch up with renewables. So suddenly cars can't drive, and particularly in a country like Australia where it's all connected by trucks and the highways. then the food supply breaks down and as a result wars commence and people start fighting for the last scraps of fuel
Starting point is 00:17:17 sucking it out of the ticks of their neighbours and fighting and stabbing and fighting and stabbing until the world is reduced The gasoline For the gasoline The world is reduced to just Yeah squalor
Starting point is 00:17:31 Until one man emerges as kind of a road warrior. And then perhaps at Tina Turner. We don't need another hero. Okay, and that's the story. Who will play Tina Turner? Tina Turner. Ah, good.
Starting point is 00:17:51 She's still going. Teenativity scene. Yeah, I like it. Tina Turner Nativity scene. That's a line from, from fucking, oh my God, Fountain Lakes. Oh. Oh, we're doing the teen to turn a teen activity scene.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Crowd Mary? That's good. I like it. Nice. Well, goodbye. On we go. Hello and welcome back to our show. Now, our very first category for what should go into the bunker this week is we realize sometimes when your Murphy bed folds down in the morning in the bunker, the bunker, the lights,
Starting point is 00:18:42 flicker on or your gas lantern turns on. And it's a bit bright, particularly if you've been drinking the night before. Oh dear. So what kind of glasses do you need in the bunker to be able to see? Zedra. Are you partial to glass? You don't really wear glasses. I don't really wear...
Starting point is 00:19:03 You don't wear any kind of glasses. I don't wear any kind of glasses. You don't want a single lens between you and the reality that you live in. I just like don't know that I can decide on. what I like. So I don't know that I'm ready to get a pair because I'm still thinking about which kind of frames I like. Perhaps in the next decade.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Well, there's been a few so far and I still haven't decided. So give me a few more. I'm a bit worried that. Are you blindy? No, I mean like sunglasses. We put her in some aviators and it really did transform her into a person that I do not like. I had a pair of sunnies a couple years ago, but one of the, I mean, I don't know, they met their end, and I just never replaced them.
Starting point is 00:19:45 But that was a weird time in my life, and I would wear sunglasses in summer. And I look back at photos, and I think, well, there I am wearing sunglasses. That's rather strange. But I wish I was a sunglasses person. You can be. Every gas station in this country could turn you into a sunglasses person. That's all they'll sell soon. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Sunglasses for me. Yeah. You think EB Games is closing? What? Is EB Games done? I don't know. I don't think so. We walked past a closed down EB games yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And Cojum was like, I think they're not going to make it. There's just nothing for them to sell like the gas stations. Well, this is true. There is, like, you go into an EB games and there is like one wall bay with video games. Yeah. Like, and I bought a video game there recently got home and it was empty. Or like, it wasn't empty. But the cartridge was just a piece of plastic.
Starting point is 00:20:41 with like a key in it and then you had to fully download the entire game. Like the game there was no chip in the card. No. And it's like no no this just like unlocks that you can play the download. That's so stupid. It's like Nintendo what the fuck. So I'm like even if you like because they're you know like we're kind of transitioning from physical media in the video again game landscape. But like even the PS5, they release two versions of, one for physical discs and one without, because they just know that the change is coming.
Starting point is 00:21:18 But the change is coming whether you like it or not because they're now selling physical media that has no content on it and then you have to download it. It's just a box. Yeah, it's just a box. But it's also a box with no resale value. Correct. That's insane. Yes. So all of like those shifts, whether they're from, you know, like market trends or being pushed by the, you know, like developer, like console companies or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:53 It's kind of inevitable. But what does a video game store sell if not video games? Squishmelor. Yeah. Then it's just like merch and trash. But it's also like those stores sell the worst merch, which is all. Who's doing the brand forecasting for EB? Like, the stuff is so ugly.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah. It's rough. And you see a lot of, like, over the years, there's more and more, like, desperation. Like, they always have, like, upsell items. And when you go to the counter, there's, like, 20 things that the poor employees seem to be forced to say at gunpoint. And how many carrots do you have? Yeah. And, like, oh, you've spent over $20.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Would you like this piece of shit for $15? you've unlocked that ability. A purple final Ursula bag is not a piece of shit. It's like, oh, you mean that tempting Pikachu towel that has the absorbency of a piece of rubber? Oh, don't threaten me with a good day.
Starting point is 00:22:53 But all of those weird add-ons and stuff just wreak of desperation to me. And, yeah, I don't know. It's rough. So I wouldn't be surprised if they diminish. Well, valet to you. D'Abb games. It's time to ebb.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Back to the sea, darling. Yeah, glasses. Well, I think glasses are country. Yes. As someone with strange Bushemi-esque bug eyes, it's important to be able to cover them. I certainly admire people that wear glasses, sunglasses at night. And also big things.
Starting point is 00:23:36 rimmed glasses for seeing, you know, like Ira Glass. Don't worry about it. The horn-rimmed glasses. Sheik. Ira Glass. Ira Glass, you know, like, hi, this is National Public Radio. My name is Ira Glass. This week we're going to be looking at a man in Minnesota who discovered that you can be fun.
Starting point is 00:24:08 What? You know. That's a person. Yeah. He's a radio presenter. Probably the world's most famous. He's doing an impression. I've never seen this man in my life.
Starting point is 00:24:20 That's why I didn't land. All right. Okay. I'm just trying to keep things flowing, but getting stalled. Okay. It's because I'm a beaver and I am blocking the flow of water. She's tired of everyone.
Starting point is 00:24:35 She's done a long week. Don't block the flow with your beaver. See, Matt, this is what we're talking about. This is the kind of stuff we're talking about. You take it too far. Yeah. You take it too far every time. I'm actually really upset by that.
Starting point is 00:24:50 She's really upset by that. No, it's fine. I can keep it out. I can continue. For one. So. Yes. I like, Australia has a very specific relationship because we are a country
Starting point is 00:25:06 built around cars. So a lot of, sunglasses that have become huge in contemporary culture are based around driving on the highway when the light hits the highway and turns it into a blinding light so you need full wraparounds
Starting point is 00:25:21 so you can drive your truck across the Australian landscape so we have a thing you know we've got the speed dealer sunnies which are the ones that are quite common in the gas station a full wraparound and the guys that wear that interesting yeah It's kind of undeniably hot, though.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yes. Yeah. And then we just have the like, yeah, bass line black ones, which are also very chic. I'm partial to that. Where does the line between, like, we're talking about glasses, not goggles, right? You want to go steam punk? No, I want to go to Jurassic. No, I want to go to Jurassic Park and put on those night vision goggles.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I wonder if I saw someone in night vision goggles, I'd say. Oh, I like your glasses. True. No, you'd say I like your night vision goggles. Probably. I mean, there's a whole conversation to be had about goggles. We'll do goggles next. Walter goggles.
Starting point is 00:26:23 But what do you think about those glasses that you've even got the cryptkeeper singing, boo-hoo, you know, eyeballs on strings. Yeah. The bubble out. I really like this. I think that that's so funny. They're a delight. I kind of...
Starting point is 00:26:37 You don't say there much anymore. I know. And you don't see them in an adult size, which is a real shame. Yes. I'm quite partial to those ancient Inuit glasses where they, like, for the snow blindness, they'd carve from bone, I believe. And, like, you'd just, like, carve a slit. Oh, yeah, just a tiny.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And it would be, like, fully blacked out and then a slit so that you could, like, knock. Like a sun tanning bed. Yeah. Yeah. Which is very cool. Old bone sunglasses. What do you think about really small circle lens like glasses? Unfortunately, I think they're very cool, but that's just because I'm an idiot.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah. I love that. There used to be this guy that I would hook up with who lived in, like, Fitzroy. And he had really small glasses. Oh, like bifocals, like clear ones. Yeah. I was thinking of the black ones that, like, Nazis were. in movies.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Oh. Yeah. No. Like on their nose? Oh, no. Like, you know. Full, like, you know. Oh, but just small.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Hello, Dr. Johns. Yeah. No, no. That kind of thing. Yeah. Very pretentious, but kind of cunty and cool. Well, you were in the north,
Starting point is 00:27:55 the heartland. Yes. Yeah. Ugh. Was the dick good? Yes. Yeah. You know what they say?
Starting point is 00:28:02 The smaller the glasses. The bigger the dick. They do say that. I would be surprised. if this hasn't come across your desk. Yeah. Have you been seeing all this stuff about catching print? Catching print?
Starting point is 00:28:16 Catching print? The new technique? No. Okay. There was a man on TikTok who has introduced the concept. He's like, to my girls out there. This is how you catch print, which is how you ascertain the size of a man's dick
Starting point is 00:28:32 by the dick print in his garage. And he's like, you got your A, which is like the top of the line of the zipper I thought it was a fly it's like if you see a mound at the top of the fly that's an A dick that's small if you see a mound at the middle of the fly
Starting point is 00:28:52 like a full like rounded I guess like kind of most protruding crotch bulge that's a B and then if you see no bulge at all it means that the dick is folded beneath the legs and it's just going to be perfectly flat
Starting point is 00:29:10 and so that's a C it's a big banana what do you think of that assessment well I mean obviously we know that it's not that simple there are men out there that you know could start with an A and end up with a big banana yeah
Starting point is 00:29:26 a hunker a big honking dick yeah because of you know the inflation with the blood yes like one of those inflatables outside of a car centre. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:38 So silly. But it is interesting because it's kind of, because a lot of people are talking about it, it's like given women a new way to objectify men in a way that kind of helps level the playing field. Yes. And in a way that gay men have been doing for so long. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Yeah. But yeah, now it's a lot of people being like, talking about catching print outside. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. What do you think about that? Yeah, I mean, two things. One, you kind of have to look for some time to like cast your full analysis,
Starting point is 00:30:17 which can be tricky. And illegal. Yes, famously. And two, men know what they're doing. Men know what they're doing? Like in that regard. There's news to me, money. Like, when you're putting on.
Starting point is 00:30:34 tracksuit pants to go out and about. Are you saying that she was asking for it? No. But, like, really, no. It's just different. Like, it's... I don't think that a lot of men know the dick print is a big thing. Are they that about it?
Starting point is 00:30:51 Some, for sure. Some absolutely not. They just put on trackies because they've, like, that's the pants they wear around the house. Who goes out in traxo pants? Mama, I'd like to introduce you to my friend Ringwood. I can't even make those jokes anymore. Ringwood has gone all upend, up end, high end.
Starting point is 00:31:09 High end. It's all up end. In ringy. Oh, ringhole. They need to change the fucking name. Ringhole. That's what we call it. You don't, who calls it ringhole?
Starting point is 00:31:19 People from the surrounding areas. I feel like Ringwood is already... It's so bad. It sounds like ringworm. Yeah. Terrible. Ringwood. You had Ringwood.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I had Rosebud at least has the word rose. it. Yeah. It's just so funny because like Rosebud, obviously we all know what a rosebud is, a thing of beauty. But like I've never considered Rosebud in that adjacency. Yeah. Like. Well, it's like Sunshine.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yes. You're like, oh, it sounds beautiful. And you're like, no, no. Why don't you go to Sunshine sometime? And figure it out for yourself. Or Deer Park. There's not any dears there, darling. No.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yeah. What about, um, What about us? What about all the things without us? Like red blue lens. I'm watching a movie in 3D glasses. I like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I like it a lot. Also like a gift when I walk into the cinema. Same with the like when 3D was really having a moment and you got the ones that don't have red blue, just like the clear ones. Yeah. That made me feel a bit sick. But that was cool.
Starting point is 00:32:32 But they were so insistent upon returning them. at the end. Oh, back off. I thought it was mine. That did feel like a very signature of like going to a Bogan house during that time. You'd see like the 3D glasses they'd stolen from IMEX on the like coffee table. Yes. What are you going to do with these?
Starting point is 00:32:50 What do you think about curved TVs so large that they have like a con curve or like monitor, like computer monitors? Yeah. I don't like it. I think it's weird. I mean, yeah. It's because you're never not going to be aware of the curve. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And I just, I mean, maybe it's because I've never fully glanced at one property. You've got to sit right inside the curve. Yeah, but like, what if I'm not? And I'm often not that close. Do you have a desktop? No. Yeah. Not anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Not for some time. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Good. Sorry, this is just so entertaining. Do you have a desktop? I'm completely broken, it would seem. Anyway, glasses.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I like glasses. I like those ones with those hologlifts. Like that. Oh no, not those ones. What is it called? Holograms. Not holograms, you fucking schmuck. The one that you look through and it puts like stars on all the...
Starting point is 00:34:21 No. No, it's like a skull. It's on the outside. It looks like one of those transmission holographs or whatever. Skull. You know, like you'd get them from a $2 store. Yeah, they're made of like reflective, sunny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:38 It's like a true hologram. True like... Oh, yes, yes, yes. But it's not cool. It's like steampunk store. Like holography kind of thing. Yep. I really want to have one of those maids.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Usually like got pictures of marijuana leaf in them. Yes. Yeah. It's so cool. You can get a kit online for about $500 where you get like 20 cells and you can make your own. And you like... And you know that because... I really...
Starting point is 00:35:08 want to do it. I really want to get the manufacture. I'd love to make like a, you know, a sticker. Like a true 3D sticker. But the technology is actually like really, it's almost like, um, Polaroid film. It's like there's not, like the people that used to be able to do it just can't do it anymore because the way you have to do it is you have to have the physical object generally. So if it's going to be the marijuana leaf, you have to have like a 3D sculpt of the marijuana leaf.
Starting point is 00:35:38 and then you put it near the exposed, like, kind of filmed, like, you know, silver particle on glass, lay it on top of that, and then shoot a single laser beam into the image, and it creates a 3D, like, emulsion, so you can, like, look around the image when it's actually done. It's incredible. And we just abandon this technology. That's cool. Now they just use it for, like, eagles on credit cards.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Yeah. Ridiculous. I bought a wallamy pine at the flower and garden show. Did you actually get it? Yeah. No wonder you're tired. So it was like, we were finishing up and I'm just going to go and have like a walk around in a bit of a shop.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Yeah. I was like, what? We're done. Yeah, but you know, it comes but once a yaw. You can't buy a wallamy pine anywhere else. No, you can. But they're incredible. expensive so I was looking for a hot deal which I did how much like at pointins they're like for the
Starting point is 00:36:45 smallest ones they're like one probably 150 but I got mine for 80 dollars wow pretty good um and when I got home and opened up the bag open that it was in there was like a certificate of authenticity that had a sticker kind of like that was it real real did have a 3D image No. I don't want to just... No. No. No, I don't want holographic, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:14 it was. Vinyl with a flat image on top. Because every time I fucking look for someone to manufacture it, they're like, we do holographic stickers. I'm like, no, you have holographic vinyl. And you put a fucking logo flatly on top. That is not the same, darling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:31 That is not the holograph. That is not the transmission holography that I believe in. No, that's... You're not wrong. Not wrong. But I did wonder, like, okay, so I got this certificate, and it was charming, but it felt like someone had, I don't know, like designed it and printed it and then put a holographic sticker on it. And because they use the word certificate of authenticity here. It just like, who approved this?
Starting point is 00:37:57 Who approved? Anyone can approve anything. Yeah, but like, do you know what I mean? A verified horticulturalist. Yeah, but like, I mean, at the year. verify it. But it just because it's all like this wank about like you know it's a part of ancient history discovered in 1994 in New South Wales blah blah blah blah blah that's all very charming. What is that mean? Yeah, Zilli you just say anything. So you're kind of skipping over the pilot.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Wallamy Pines were discovered in 1994 in this like previously very infrequently trekked part of a national park. and it's this very old species of pine and it only grows there the only place in the world and it's unchanged from like dinosaur era times so living fossil kind of thing like a lot of ferns or whatever which is all very cool and like how convenient that it came out around the same time as Jurassic Park that's cool anyway but since then
Starting point is 00:39:05 thankfully the tree is quite easy to propagate and it's quite adaptable can be you know like has survived all around the world now but it is still a very like rare niche plant that's why it's so expensive um but yeah i don't know like all of that to say there's a lot of rare niche plants and they don't all come with a certificate of authenticity like it unless i'm mistaken maybe there's like only one retailer for the species or something. I don't know. Like I don't know. But anyway, I just like, even when you get like a boozy ham, oh, well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:46 that's because there's knockoffs. But like the ethics and morality of like knocking off a plant. Like if you, but I mean, there is a whole world of. What do you mean knocking off a plant? Well, because like some cultivars are. are... Like, you can breed your own plants on, like, crossbreed and make your own cultivar, which you could then arguably get the, like, patent for.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Right. But a wallamy pine is just that. So, like, some things are beyond that because they, you haven't done anything to it. You've just propagated something that is from nature. Yeah, it's not been bastard. So it's like, how could anyone... Like, you can't own the patent for the original. that patent is owned by
Starting point is 00:40:33 Whoopi Goldberg as Gaia You know like So who is authorised This certificate of authenticity Because like when you buy a Gucci bag That will come with that To prove that it's not a knock off But like you can't knock off
Starting point is 00:40:48 A plant That isn't altered Listen Zelda I'm sad that you've got So in the weeds about this This is why I'm so tired It's a charming touch Could it be just a bit
Starting point is 00:41:01 It is. It is. It is. It was from that seller. Anyway, it is. It's fine. It's a nice thing. Because, just one more point on this. There's those grass tree plants as well that are like thousands of dollars. You know those grass tree ones? And they've got like a black trunk and then a little tufty grass at the top. Yes, I know her well. And apparently, unless you sell that with a certificate,
Starting point is 00:41:29 or you're not allowed to sell them without a certificate because people go into the forest and dig them up and sell them. That's interesting. So maybe it's the same thing like that. Like you're not allowed to sell them unless you've been like authorized to grow them or something. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Oh, Matt. That can very much be in. Do you know what I will say just quickly though about the flower and garden show? Oh, yes. I wish I'd had glasses. the displays were not it I was like sorry where is the taste
Starting point is 00:42:10 what is happening I was looking around I was like looking at the bouquets I was like vomatorium.com some of those displays should be like I'm glad that those are going to be dead now at time of recording because like who was doing this Because I associate, like, I think that there's some real, you know, fab, top-tier people working in the garden space.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And it's usually like a space that's kind of hard to make ugly, generally, because you're working with, like, beautiful things that are, like, just kind of, yeah, like, you have to kind of fuck it up to make it look bad. And I think I saw a lot of tortured objects with, like, we painted this space. basket pink and now this like coconut husk is all painted pink yeah with some like shitty plants that don't grow together crammed together in a basket yeah i was like i don't think that you're here for the spirit of what a garden should be yes there's always this confused mix of you know what like i kind of can see it in a world of like the queens who go on drag race and are just like the most like I've been watching drag race for 20 years
Starting point is 00:43:30 and this is so I'm doing drag now and this is drag. Yeah. Like just the most generic drag queen looks and vibe and the way they talk and all that stuff. Same too is like so many of those like landscaping exhibitions, floral arrangements, all that stuff is like this is what you do at the garden show
Starting point is 00:43:51 so this is what I'll be doing. This is my version of this. Yeah. It's very rare that you see like, an authentic and therefore interesting execution. Like they all, like, things just fall into these like particular tropes there. And yeah, you see it year after year. I saw a topiary or like a, I don't know, a guided apple tree that these women had put up for their women's garden.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And I was like, oh my God, there's apples on that tree. and I was like, are those are those real apples They're like, yeah Are they growing out of that tree And they're like, I'm like Oh, so you've pinned apples to the tree Sorry, what the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:44:40 Artifice in the garden In the woman's garden no less Haven't women been through enough? Oh, the thought of them waking up early Threading those apples With transparent fishing lines So they could hang it lies. Propagating lies is what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Wow. It's stupid. I'm sorry. Bring out the astroturf, I guess, given that we're not doing things real. We're hanging up apples. Like it's Willy Wonka's fucking chocolate factory. Yeah. Can I say more? So like when I was walking around, doing a little after after performance shop in my hard jacket shirt and beat face, Oh, the looks that I got. Although some people came up, this woman came up and was like, oh, you got a lot of laughs tonight?
Starting point is 00:45:31 It's like, wait, were you not there? No, she wasn't talking about it on the stage. And then, yeah, just most of the people who were like working at their stall, who obviously didn't know that there were drag queens doing trivia in the thing, just like politely, just not saying anything. about my ridiculous appearance.
Starting point is 00:45:56 But it's so funny walking around because you go from like these, you know, like this stall that has like beautiful, expensive Japanese tools and snips and cool things and like Iqabana supplies and all this stuff. And then like the rare plant stall and then the tulip stall. We can get every tulip you've ever desired and all these cool things. and then I walk past the like the broom store at this display of this particular new bristle that they had
Starting point is 00:46:32 no one is in that store and then you know you're up to the carnivorous plant store and then Garden Express with their you know incredible displays and then you get to the felt hat store I saw a lot of felt hats you know it's like the Mickey ears of that whole place
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yes. Couples walking around with their like cuted little like, like they kind of were made to look like little buds, like flower buds or something like that. Yeah. But felt it. Yeah. The ladder stall, of course. How much does it cost to get into the show?
Starting point is 00:47:08 I don't know. Well, I never know. Okay, glasses. Glasses. I think, Matt, do you have any thoughts on glasses before we lock something in? Well, I do wear glasses. Oh, I forgot that you're a. You've got four eyes.
Starting point is 00:47:22 You've got four eyes. Do you know one time my wife always calls me four eyes? Because I told her this story once. My wife. I was walking from university. This was probably about 13 years ago now. I was walking from university to the train station in Box Hill. And there was a woman lying in the gutter, crying.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And that was your wife? And that's how I met my wife. And I went over to her I was like, what is going on? And then there was a man on the other side of the street just yelling abuse at her. And I was like, holy shit, something's gone down. And she was like sobbing and being like,
Starting point is 00:48:05 don't talk to me. And he was like, what you're fucking? Yeah, we got. Jesus. And I was like, Jesus. And I went up to her and I was like, are you okay? Do you need help? And she just turned on me.
Starting point is 00:48:17 What the fuck do you want? Four eyes? Incredible. And I was like, okay, and I just left because I was, yeah. Just trying to help. Oh, you're just trying to help. I was. That's really funny.
Starting point is 00:48:33 And it was really sad. She just took all of that emotional abuse and just turned it on to me. Oh my God, that's really good. It is an outrageous thing to think that, like, why on earth would you make fun of someone for needing to wear glasses? Like four eyes, it's so cruel. But funny. In how limp it is.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I recently saw on that story, Matt, Mike Babiglia being interviewed, interviewing John Mulaney. And John was like, well, you know, you have your like iconic Frank Sinatra story. Why haven't you ever used that? And then Mike Bribigli is like, oh, it doesn't really have a punchline. And he's like, no, it's my favorite story you've ever told me. And Mike Buegley is like, okay, well, the story is my auntie and I were talking on the phone.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I was like, have you ever been to a concert? And she's like, oh, yeah, like back in the day, Frank Sinatra came to our small American town. And we went to go and see him. And he loved him. We're all like teenagers. And then they like, we're so in love. with him we ran around to the alley like the stage door at the end of the show to say hello to him and then he came out we're like Frankie baby we love you we love
Starting point is 00:49:57 you and then he pushed past and said get out of the way you pigs you fat pigs and got it into a limo and drove away Jesus Jesus Christ and then he was like and they still love Franks tonight Oh, my God. I'd love him more. The sequels are not trying to help that. Get on the way, four eyes.
Starting point is 00:50:28 You're a loser. He's a real man. You'll never be like it. Oh, my God. It's life. Wow. That's it. I like love the MyGo glosses thing.
Starting point is 00:50:43 That's very tragic. My girl. The film My Go? Spoilers for the film, My Girl, McCauley Colkin, little baby McCauley Colkin from Home Alone. It's about a girl who grows up in a funeral parlour. Her dad is a widower, and he's just gotten with a new woman, played by Susan Surrendon, young Susan Surrendon. And anyway, it's just about her growing up and how kind of complicated her life is, growing up in this funeral home with her dad as the undertaker and trying to accept this new woman and her best friend who's like, they're both. with like, I don't know, 10, is McCauley Coulkin, but he's like a little glasses wearing nerd,
Starting point is 00:51:23 who's like allergic to everything, and his mom's like a massive kind of munch house by proxy kind of overbearing mother. But they have fun, and there's long summer days that never end in this small American town. And then he's got a crush on her, and they had their first kiss together, and it's really cute, down by the leg. And then he gives her a gift. Oh, maybe it's no. Maybe he doesn't give it.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Maybe it was from her mother, her dead mother. But anyway, she gets a mood ring, a gorgeous little mood ring. And then at one point, she loses the mood ring. And McCauley Colkin, and she's really upset, devastating. It must be for the life. And so then she goes, McCauley Colkin, without being asked, goes into the woods where they were to try and find the mood ring on his own. And he finds the mood ring. And as he does, he upsets a beast.
Starting point is 00:52:17 nest. And then he gets stung by the bees, but he's deathly allergic to bees and goes into anaphylactic shock alone in the woods and dies. Oh. And then they have his funeral at the funeral home where she lives. That's convenient. And like she's so upset. But like they're having the funeral downstairs.
Starting point is 00:52:40 She can't even bear to be there because it's her best friend in the entire world, the only person that she'll ever love. and then they're doing an open casket and the mother's grieving, everyone's grieving and there are all these adults downstairs and she's just completely heartbroken and then she comes downstairs and glances in and sees that he's had this open casket funeral
Starting point is 00:53:00 but he doesn't have his glasses on and she's like, he needs his glasses, he can't see without his glasses. And she like is screaming at everyone in this room and all the adults like... That's where he can't see without his glasses comes from? Oh my God. And it's so sad.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Wow, yeah. That is ringing a bell. Yeah. Jays. Yeah. Oh. Paul McCulley. And he's so cute in that film.
Starting point is 00:53:27 This has just made me think of something. Okay. What about this? Why aren't there? Like, imagine a horror film. Oh! Perfect. It's a real spooky one.
Starting point is 00:53:42 where like, I don't know, like a classic house possession or... Like a lamp? The lamp is possessed? Oh, no, I thought you were talking about possessions. Oh. Like things that are on. A broom. No, sorry, you go.
Starting point is 00:54:02 You went to that stall at the pharangana. Or like, yeah, like a demon is like stalking someone. or like a possession, you know, like someone's possessed. Why don't we have the film where like the first half is all about, yeah, like the little, little, you know, teenage girl gets possessed by Pizzou and, you know, the exorcism's failing and da-da-da-da-da-da. But we don't know that she's deathly allergic to bees. And at one point she's out in the garden whimsically and gets stung by a bee and she drops dead. Like, and then the demon just like has lost its host and then that's the end of the possession. Or like, like, why do we have more things like that?
Starting point is 00:54:50 I think he's describing hereditary. Wait, am I? Well, right, because the little girl is possessed by the devil. Yeah. And they wanted it to be in a son. So they have to figure out how to kill her. And then she's allergic to nuts and they kill her with the nut allergy. Oh.
Starting point is 00:55:10 I'm at the top way through the film. Oh, that's good. No wonder that's such a good film. That's love. Okay, well, I guess the last thing I'm going to throw on, the Lady Gaga's influence on glasses. Oh, God. You know, she obviously did the paparazzi video
Starting point is 00:55:34 with those incredible flip-down Mickey Mouse star glasses. She also had those stupid house. of Gaga ones where they took the screens out of two iPods and made screens that say Lady Gaga flashing that you can't see through stupid
Starting point is 00:55:51 but amazing I like glasses that have a curly straw in them you can see it perfect that had been a banner year for when those came out at the glasses and I wishers yeah I'd find it But, like, there's so little that you can do in the, like, base.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Like, everything you do in designing an object like that is so restricted. Like, there's only so many shapes and so many things that could fit in the world of glasses. However. So true, Zelda. Oh, yeah. You both laughed. But someone at work the other day was wearing the most conty set of frames. And I was like, oh, you're wearing like gentle monster.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Gentle monster. Yeah. And he's like, yeah. It's like, oh, you're Tilda Swinton. And it just struck me how, you know, like creating a unique design and something that is so done can still be done. And that's quite special. All right. I guess on that.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Also, those glasses that have magnets on the bridge of the nose and wrap around the back of the head. Oh, yeah. Like, you know, a doctor might wear them in CSI and Miami. Yes. And you'd tug at one side and they like snap apart. Oh, yeah. Kind of reveal glasses. Yes, I like that.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Yeah. What about... What about us? No, I lost it. Okay. How did I lose that so quickly? The doctor glasses. So is it going to be the googly eye glasses?
Starting point is 00:57:46 Yes. Okay. On springs. So who is wearing those? How long should they be? We did have a pair of glasses in the bunker at one point. Well? And then Brenda took them off the bayonetta.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Let's give bayonetta the gulley glasses. And since you insist. Oh my God. Wait, can they have the frames that she needs, like the lenses that she needs underneath the springs? I think they can be at the end. Of the googly eye? So when they, if they occasionally snap up into full position, she'd be like, she can see for a second.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Wow. Yeah. Evil. Like bayonetta. She's a witch? She is. Okay. Well, we'll be back.
Starting point is 00:58:31 No way. Hello and welcome back. Hello. It's time for our next category. Which will be discussed with us via the speakhole. Enormous Jean has sent through a speakhole for us today. Is this a femme presenter human being? Unsure.
Starting point is 00:59:08 I don't think it's drag race Italia contended Enorma Jean, who was fabulous. Okay. Well, let's find out. Play the speak hole. See. Hello. This is War Machine, Melbourne's first and only attack helicopter in a wig. Hello, lazy Susan, hello Zelda Moon, hello Matt Shears,
Starting point is 00:59:26 hello guest if applicable, long-time listener, first-time caller. In the spirit of witchy girls coming out, I think we need to put something from the film and the screen back into the bunker to celebrate, and I've got a proposition for you. So as you are going to be no longer just casting pods, but also casting spells on the worldwide universe. the same World Wide Web that we get screaming off movies and also TV shows. Madam West. You're putting you into the same realm as those actors.
Starting point is 00:59:55 You'll be on the same IMDB as J-Lo is with This Is Me Now. True. This is me now. And you both have drag characters based on women that you have different lived experiences to. Two gay men playing straight women, lazy Susan, a tradwife, possibly Mormon, Zelda Moon, a horse girl, ethically monogamous. he should flip that script and put in the best fraudulent gay icon from TV or movie
Starting point is 01:00:24 I'm thinking Will from Will and Grace Mee Megan Malali Yeah What was her name again? I don't know But she was
Starting point is 01:00:33 Canonically bisexual as a character But rescinded on bisexuality in real life Did she rescind? Most of the gay characters from DeGrassey But not Marco, he came out Oh good for him The Hot One, Not The Smart One Played by Conrad Wickamora
Starting point is 01:00:44 from How to Get Away with Murder. Conrad Wicka Morgan. You and McGregorne. I love you, Philip Morris. Or, to mention some bad ones, Dame Edna or Dumbledore. Tell me what you think. If not, we'd love to hear you just wrap about it.
Starting point is 01:00:58 But put one in the bunker. Oh, this is a great category, attack helicopter. Have you heard that meme? I'm going to butcher this, but the attack helicopter thing? Say more? I believe,
Starting point is 01:01:14 Okay, everyone, please get off my dick already because I know this is going to be like completely butchered. But there was an alt-right, alt-right guy who was obviously infuriated by the existence of trans people. And we're like, by that logic, I could be a fucking, like, I'm a attack helicopter. And then someone wrote this like incredible fan fiction about someone who transitioned. into being an attack helicopter. And it became like this like meme of it like I now identify as an attack. Attack helicopter.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Yeah. Is that like when I put down Jedi is my religion on the census? Kind of. I did that twice and then I got over it. I hate you. You hate that? I won't believe it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:08 So wait, which faker? Which acting gay but not actually gay? I sexually identify as an attack helicopter. helicopter. Oh, my God. Sorry. Um, hmm.
Starting point is 01:02:20 The story was finalist for the 2021 Hugo Award under the title Helicopter story. That's amazing. That is amazing. Okay, so it wasn't, okay. Okay. Sorry. Great. So fake gaze.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Fake gaze. I didn't realize Megan Malali was no longer identifying herself as bisexual. Well, she's trapped in the oceanarium. Leave her alone. That's right. She's already in, so it's not even worth. discussion. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Eric McCormack, obviously, Will and Grace. I don't know why. Yeah, I think there is something. Hang on, which one of Will and Grace isn't gay? Will. Will, right. Yeah. Other one's gay.
Starting point is 01:02:59 He's Toki Lukie Time. Yeah, but he also, um, he wasn't out at the time of Will and Grace. Really? Yeah. Yeah, he was worried it would damage his career. Well, he went on to do Turkey Lucky Time. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Who else is gay, but not gay? What about Shalome? He's not gay. Timitay, Shalamee. Yeah. What did I want to talk about him? We're going to watch that movie. It will take someone forcing me to watch it.
Starting point is 01:03:30 And we're going to put it on Patreon. We're not going to do the whole, Godwin should be able to watch it. And then we'll do just a quick after show where you discuss your feelings. Yeah, okay. That is good. Okay. Then we also like the clockwork orange chair.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Yeah. It's like truly I yeah we we should do that movie club is coming back Patreon um other fake gays
Starting point is 01:03:54 um well apparently that guy oh god no I'm not gonna do it I haven't seen it tell us no no no it's only because I was like I couldn't remember the name of the actor
Starting point is 01:04:04 and I haven't seen the film where he's playing gay so I have actually no valuable information to bring to this um I should still throw it out there's like you know that guy was in that film Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that guy. We're not putting him in.
Starting point is 01:04:18 No. No. What about, are all the queerest folk gay is gay? They're all gay. I think they're. America version. But that one whose sons of anarchy, he's not gay. And he was the twink in the UK version.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Ah. Interesting. Yeah. Gay guys. Gay guys. I mean, obviously the two gays, oh, well, one of the gay. is out of modern family is not gay. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Which is crazy. He's got a wife. Wait, which one? The Redhead or the... No, that's Jesse Tyler Ferguson. He's straight. I mean, he's... He's gay.
Starting point is 01:04:54 But Cam, the other guy is... Straight? Straight? Oh, my. I know. I'm insulted. Hmm. He's had a wife this entire...
Starting point is 01:05:03 Stanley Tootie's not gay? Yeah, did you know that? No. That's great. The internet's telling me that right now. I feel like Stanley Tucci's the good version of that. I like... like his gay guy.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Yeah, like the Prada one. Yeah. Yeah. That was the best part of that film. Yeah. Apart from Meryl. Well, two of the four parts of the film. What are the other two parts?
Starting point is 01:05:27 Anne. And Emily. Emily. And Entourage. Yeah. Oh, and that awful boyfriend. Antaraj. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Yeah. Oh, wait, is he an entourage? He's the main guy. Adrenia. The entourage of the movie. Yeah. And Tracy Tom's. She's good.
Starting point is 01:05:48 I love Tracy Tom's. She's the friend. Oh, yeah. I don't know in it. I don't know in it. But yeah. No, I like Merrill and I like Stanley, but I don't like Anne or Emily. I think they're both bad in that film.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I think Emily Blunt is bad. What do you think about James Franco in milk? James Franco in milk. When is he been in milk? Isn't he like the side piece? A big puddle of milk floating on. No, he was, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:24 With Sean Penn. Wait, but then isn't he in like a gay porno film? Yeah, Cobra. Cobra, King Cobra. King Cobra Cobra. Cobra guy. He fights. James Franco in that way is very similar to that other one.
Starting point is 01:06:41 from true blood. What's his name? Eric. Ryan Quentin. No. You know the Scars Guard. Yeah. He's not a faggot, right?
Starting point is 01:06:51 No. That's outrageous. To me. Have you seen Pillion? Billion? No, but yeah. Apparently it's okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Yeah. Okay. Is it like... Dudley-Dersley gets fucked up the ass. Sorry? Dudley dancing gets fucked on the ass Wait, is it Dudley It's donely
Starting point is 01:07:14 It's done it gets fucked on the ass It's so weird By Skarsgard By he's the gimp To Skarsgarde's dog He is a bit gimpy That's time Should I see that?
Starting point is 01:07:25 I'd see that before I watch Fucking call me by your name Um I mean listen You can see everything You want to see in this life True Um
Starting point is 01:07:34 Um Well you know Damien from Mean Girls wasn't out When they made that and was like, I'm straight. You know, all the male leads in that film, Mean Girls, were turned out to be gay. Oh, really? Like Aaron.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Aaron. Aaron. Yeah. He's gay. Gay. The athlete's leader. Yeah. He's gay.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Yeah. And then Damien, he's gay. Hmm. The dad, I guess, didn't turn out to be gay. But he didn't turn out to not come back for the Scrubs revival. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:19 What about... I'm trying to think of the more offensive ones. What do you think about the brokeback boys? Excuse me. Brokeback boys. Jake Gillenhol. Oh. And Heath.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Heath. Okay, can I say my case for like that kind of casting? Yeah. is like if you are getting someone to play a flamer, like someone who's been socialized and is living out as a gay man. Yeah. Then cast someone who's culturally gay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:52 If you need someone who's playing someone who is deeply in the closet and confined by kind of heteronormitivity of the 1960s of like rural Montana, you can cast a straight man for that. Yeah. I feel like they're more intimately acquainted with what is. it's like to be like socialized straight. Yeah. Then I am.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Don't cast me is what I'm saying. In Burke Beck Mountain 2. Broken tab. And you know I didn't like in that film? And. Wait, the woman? Wait, isn't she a lesbian? Anne Hathaway.
Starting point is 01:09:28 No, the blonde picture cut. Michelle Williams. Yeah. She's lesbian, I recently? No, she was with Heath. No? She's with Heath? Not anymore. Well, no.
Starting point is 01:09:38 They have Matilda. A child? They have a child that lives in Perth, Matilda. How do you know this? I'm obsessed with that child. She's the last thing we have of him. But is she's in, but I'm a cheerleader. Is she?
Starting point is 01:09:53 I don't know, she's in, like, lesbian things. She was in Dawson's Creek. Yeah. Wasn't she a lesbian in that? No. She was trying to get with the, the Vanderbeek. Oh. On the creek.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Van der Beak on the creek. She's lesbian. No. No. Michelle Williams, not a lesbian. No, okay. That's fine. Okay. I mean, listen, I don't know her alphabet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:17 And I don't, I don't pretend to. But she's straight. Okay. Until proven otherwise. I think, I mean, acting is all about playing things that you're not. Like Scarlet Johansen. I could play a tree. Scarjo could play anything.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Yeah. And she has. Yes. Whether she should or not. She could play a ghost? She could play a ghost in a shell. I was trying to explain to someone recently the wonder that is Aon Flux
Starting point is 01:10:47 and when you look up Aon Flux all you get is Charlize's Aon Flux. Yeah. Which I'm like, no, no, it's not like this. But also when that Aeon Flux movie came out, it felt like, wow, I can't believe that they're making an Aon Flux movie. But looking back in time,
Starting point is 01:11:08 I think AonFlox came out in 2006 or something, maybe eight or nine. The movie. Yeah. Yeah. But AonFlox, the series, came out in the 90s. Yeah. So it was only like 10 years later that it got turned into a movie. That living in that time felt like it would have been like when they made Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Like, oh, that came out 50 years ago. Yeah. But it was actually quite tight and therefore even worse somehow. Who was it? It was the director who did Jennifer's body and- Did AonFlox? Yeah. And she had just made her feature debut, which was the film that discovered Michelle Rodriguez.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Oh. Called like kick puncher or something. Sucker Punch? No, no. Karen Kisama. And so like she had made her first film. It had been like this huge like indie darling. And then she.
Starting point is 01:12:08 was like okay well what the fuck Girl Fight was her first film and then she pitched on like basically everyone like was pitching on Aon Flux like we have the rights to Aon Flux we're going to make a movie and like everyone
Starting point is 01:12:24 like big big directors and she was like someone who'd done one film out of a film like film festival like Sundance and came in with this pitch and was like so like I need this job I have like the pitch and everyone who saw it loved it everyone who thought like so like thought it was incredible
Starting point is 01:12:44 yeah she shot the film edited it and then people were like well this is really like morose and kind of sad and like weird and kind of a like long-form critique on like capitalism and like blah blah and so they took the film away from her and then completely re-edited it to be like 70 minutes or 80 minutes like just enough to put it in the theater. Yeah. And yeah, it was completely destroyed, not the film that she'd set out to make it all. Oh my God. And then she, like, still a trooper turned out to all the premieres.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Wow. And so when she went to the premiere, she, like, was there, sat in the audience, watched the film that everyone fucking hated. And then she's like, I got really drunk, went home to my hotel and just sobbed the rest of the night. I think I recall you telling me this story before. It's more haunting. hearing it. So sad.
Starting point is 01:13:38 And then she was basically not able to get a film made for about 10 years. Yeah. Because people blamed her for the failure of the film. Wow. Because she's a woman, obviously. And then she made Jennifer's body. And once again, was put in director's jail because people like, this isn't sexy. Like, we made the advertising look.
Starting point is 01:13:58 And she's like, no, because it's not about how sexy. Jenna, Megan Markleys. Megan Fox is. It's about how sexy future princess Megan Michael. But yeah. It's not about that. No. Anyway, and now it's been reclaimed.
Starting point is 01:14:19 And now Karen Kisama is back. Yeah, baby. And it's just really bit tragic. She would be great for that. Like that's actually what she would be really good for. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Okay, so which faker gets in? Faker! Fake. You know who, I hope, isn't completely fake? Who, they're already in the bunker, but Christopher Maloney plays big old bisexual fag in Oz. And I also, I don't know. He made out with that other guy at the Oscars or whatever that time.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Like, surely he's a little gay. No, I don't think. Bye. Bye. Bye-bye. He's in any way, but, you know, I just wish. Is Richard E Grant straight? That would be my pick.
Starting point is 01:15:11 No. He couldn't be. I think he's got a wife. Posh nash. I love Richard Grant. Me too. Did you love him in Loki season one? Joan Washington he's been married to since 1986.
Starting point is 01:15:30 As Loki? Until a death in 2021. He played Loki. They have a daughter named Olivia. Did you like that? I, we would. would like to say that Richard A. Grant is the gay. He's stuck in the void with all the other Loki.
Starting point is 01:15:46 You know, it's like alligator loki, kid loki. Zella. Did you love that? Richard E. Grant is in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Just, it claims another soul. Zella. Oh, Richard E. Grant is in. Like Spice World.
Starting point is 01:16:02 That's great. Well, Spice World, but my favorite Richard E. Grant is poshnotch. What is Poshnosh? What girl I for my... Poshnosh was like him and some like, female. Female. No, I just don't know her name. Woman-shaped thing.
Starting point is 01:16:19 No! Attack helicopter! Oh my God. And they... In that, he plays like the gay husband who's like sleeping with the tennis coach. And it's like a fake cooking show that must have been part of a sketch comedy, but I've only ever seen like, and I've seen them many times, like all the clips of on YouTube and they yeah it's like making fun of cooking shows but it's called poshosh
Starting point is 01:16:43 and the recipes that they make are outrageous and it's just richardy grant and that woman i can't remember who it is but she's equally fabulous maybe even more so um surely i've forced you to watch that at some point no really yeah posh noh noh is very funny say posh nash wait you're gonna watch it now and you'll be like wait that's half of the things that you've been saying for the It's 10 years. Oh my God. Yeah. Anyway, so that's good.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Well, Richard, you're in. We love you. Today, we've put in Richard E. Grant and googly eyes on frames. Springy googly eyes. Yes, which bayonetta now has to wear. Now, you will forgive us. We're doing a short one. We have to get to the flower and garden show, part two.
Starting point is 01:17:30 What? Oh, my God. It's called yes and not what. We have somewhere else to be Don't block the flow with your beaver Yeah Hey, I'm making a damn good case That's a good pun
Starting point is 01:17:46 You know what We're canceling this show Oh my God I've had it The tensions I've had an all time high Okay Okay
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