Death To Everyone - Death To... Listener Mail #2

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

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...toe... ...to everyone... Hello, listener, and welcome back to death to everyone. This is season three of our fabulous podcast. My name's Zelda Moon. And I'm lazy Susan. And of course, driving us around the folds of space is mad. The folds of space.

That's what people say. Dipping in and out of the crevasses and folds. The undulating waves of space And Matt And Matt The space car driver Matt What do you think about Like deep ocean currents

You know how there's like rivers in the ocean I love it That is so cool It really makes you think Yeah Rivers can be anywhere Yeah Well

You know What do you think about wind It's like a river through the air Right Right That's crazy Hmm Heavy air

yeah yeah what do you think about people who talk about theories of like there's a planet where it rains diamonds

I don't care I don't live there I don't know I don't know the only raining diamonds I care about is Ricky Lee Coulter's

song Raining Diamonds Oh this is going to be I see a rain rain rain rain and diamonds Is that a real song

I've never heard that song You know they say that love is just surviving. I think that bunker inhabitant Emma Frost might enjoy that song, since she is indeed able to turn into a diamond. Who would play her? That's January Jones.

After extensive VFX work. Okay, so what is this show about in season three? Well, each and every week, we go through a range of fabulous topics. And from those topics, we nominate. the best thing of that topic. Yeah. And that is preserved for all time in our doomsday bunker. So say it us.

None in the bunker. As we say every week. Yeah. To things that indeed will not be going in the bunker. What show do you think had the most, like, this was the show in season one. And then by season three, like, that's not what the show is about anymore. Like, I'm thinking about Cougatown, where they're like, the show is about Cougatown. And then by season three, they're like,

This isn't about Cougatown anymore. What did it turn in to be? Well, it was meant to be like jumping on the Cougatown trend. Cougar trend. What is Cougatown? You know, Corny Cogatown. I've never seen this show. Busy Phillips Cougatown.

What? Honey, it's Cougatown. Oh, my God. You know what's really funny about Cougatown. Everything. It's a delight. But in season one, it's like, she's become a cougar because she's recently divorced. And then they found that the cast were how.

having such a fun time and really jelling. And then it just became like an ensemble comedy about this really wacky group of friends who drank wine together. And it stopped being about Cougatown. That's fun. Yeah. I like that.

Yeah. I don't know if that's like really different from the original premise. She was a cougar at the start, but then she became a human being. A literal cougar. That's what I've understood. Darling, watch it.

You know what, though? It's funny, my friend Nina. former guest to the show would whenever she'd get depressed loved Cougatown and she would watch it and sometimes when I was like because we used to share a bunk bed in university

I'd be like I don't know why I was in her bed but found like the whole DVD box set of Cougatown like underneath the sheets and I was like oh are you okay hon she's like don't look at it don't look at it

Those are just for me I just need to Cougatown I'm being to Cucketown Do you know in season three It's more about them just being friends Yeah What a different show it was I like it

Yeah Listener I'm so glad You've enjoyed our debut episode of season three last week God, it's always so stressful studying your third season I know But rest assured

You can expect About the same yeah no it's a great show people love listening to the show yeah you love it listener right you love us forever right you will think we're beautiful we've brainwashed you enough to believe that you love it yeah we're very funny it's kind of like stockholm syndrome i think now oh absolutely you meet the people that know about the show and they're like yeah i have to watch it You should have heard the desperate messages I got in our season hiatus from all these freaks. I mean, sorry, thank you for writing in, listen.

I never get any of those messages. Which I think is saying. No one ever messages me. Could you imagine if I was lying all this time? Oh, my God. I got this message from this person. Oh, do, do, do, no, I wouldn't be the first. Well, you haven't mentioned any name, so.

True. Prove it. Ben buggy. Does Ben Buggie even exist? Yeah. Do you think I'm making that tie at home? Yes, maybe. Yeah, maybe actually.

Well, you could just buy it. Ben Buggie, you can just buy it. Imagine if I was actually crazy. Made up a fan. And had made up all of that. Do you think, I mean, I don't want to insult listener of the show and someone who sent us free chai multiple times, Ben Buggie. But is that like equivalent of making Musley? making try.

Yeah. It's definitely adjacent, yeah. Matt? Yeah, so it's just like, I bought the other ingredients and put them together. Yeah. It's not like...

Aw. This is why I gave the disclaimer. Ben Buggy, don't listen to this. But, right? It's not that hard. Ben Buggy's sister, we didn't tell you not to listen, but don't now tell Ben Buggy.

Yeah. Anyway. Enough about that. So what's the news? Oh, do you know what? I really wanted to just quickly stick the knife in on. Yeah.

Me and Zelda applied for Screen Australia funding Yes I feel like we haven't talked about this And this is what actually care about it Yeah Well we did mention it a few weeks ago Did we?

Yeah you were talking about the application Oh yeah How big it was Yeah Much effort you put in Yeah well I'm glad that we preface it Now it's on the record So we applied to Screen Australia funding

For a web show that we want to make Which we're not going to tell you about Yet But we were like Okay we're going to make make a web show it's going to be six episodes it's going to be 10 minutes each but they're each going to be cut up into TikTok size chunks so we can like also have a TikTok presence and rest assured it will be funny and then we just yeah like they came back to us and it was like the most

put together application with like industry professional it was very strong it was good and it was also just like it wasn't just us it was like we had signed on or out, like, comedic cameos and everything and gone out and, like, gotten some real big heavy hitters to, like, prove that we had the credentials. And then also, like, the production team were all really seasoned producers who, like, have done a lot of social, but I've also made feature films. So, and they did, like, a full budget line items, everything. Don't get, don't brag about it too much. Oh, listen, I will brag, because I get to brag on behalf of these incredible other people. But that's, too.

to say, like, we did all of that work, and then the people at Screening Australia came back to us and were like, yeah, we, A, don't feel like there's enough character development, and we're like, like, a season arc, and it's like, well, what's interesting about this is that it's not a TV show, it's a YouTube show, and the way that this will appear to people is that it'll just drop into your feed. So it's a lot more akin to, like, a sitcom where the character archetypes are set but they don't have huge changes over the course of a season and so if you'd read the application you might have gleamed some of that yeah like it would actually like not

every show is the same show some shows a kookerdown yes um and it's just about drinking wine with friends exactly some shows are just um funny like i don't know if you've heard of um the simpsons you know america's longest running show those characters haven't changed that much episode to episode And there's not really a season arc so much. But that's why it felt from. Don't let the different genre of TV distract you from the fact that you want to make a show that is that. Anyway, and then they also said, because we'd supplied having worked in the social media. And so, like, this is my high horse.

Yeah. But having worked in the social media space in advertising for like five years. And then on top of that being a drag queen who worked, you know, like does for all her own socials and everything. they we supplied it how you'd supply to a client if you were going to be like shoot production ready for a social media shoot which means you have the main scripts like the 10 minute long scripts then you also supply this is how it would cut into six pieces for TikTok and this is how you do it as a sequential piece so like there's a line that you tweak so that it works as like a cliffhanger so people watch the next one then this is how it works as standalone so we ended up

supplying 45 scripts the main six 10 minute long and then exactly how it would iterate across because they like are asking you to be production ready the thing that the people who are in charge of giving out funding for web said to us was next time don't provide all those scripts because it really confused our people because they're not really they don't really understand what's going on with TikTok so you just need to provide the YouTube scripts what do you mean you don't understand the people assessing for online funding in this country don't understand what's going on with TikTok yeah no shit that's why you would like I don't know just give the money to the people that understand it anyway so we are going to do it

anyway yeah we're going to do it on our own steam as we should have from the start yeah um so hopefully in January we're shooting along yeah going into it all yeah which is very exciting. Watch this space. Yeah. Oh my God. Suck on that. Except give me money for the feature film, bye.

Yeah. I do still really want your money. Yeah. Well. And respect the hard work you put in. I also just wish I know Screen Australia and Vic Screen don't have any money because they've been butchered over and over again by every successive liberal government that's come

through that has been like, you know what? We should cut the arts. because they're the ones that criticize us and so there is no money and I would so much prefer the experience number one of applying to screen and show you where they just don't

ask for a shit ton of like documents and they should just have to ask for like a very first cursory glance round or a meeting not like asking unpaid artists to do like 40 hours of work

each in order to provide them like a picture book to decide whether they can make a TikTok. Yeah. But the other thing is just don't provide that sort of feedback where it's like there's not enough of a narrative arc. Just say you don't have the money. That's completely fine. Don't make it about us. Make it about you. Like you don't have the money. You can't afford it. You don't need to invent a reason. Or even if it was that there were, you know, like projects that they were more interested in or more excited in or something. Yeah. Like, I think it's much better to be like, this is, like, fantastic or whatever it is. Yeah. But, like, there's other projects that, I don't know, like, entice them more

for whatever reason. Yeah, totally. Because, like, to say that feedback about this suggests that they haven't thoroughly looked at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, don't say that because like what are you talking about yeah if if that's just like that well we have to say something to say no yeah like pick things that like what why yeah because that just confuses the whole thing because it's like well do you know what you're doing because we provided all those things for this reason because that's what you asked for so I think I want to I want the Australian government to try this method for four years one year use the full standing methodology of like a selection committee people that make these

decisions based on the criteria, which is like they want to promote distinct diverse Australian voices and blah, blah, blah, and then one year where they like just pull out a money gun and shoot it with their blindfold on at someone. Yeah. Like I think it's like just full lottery. And then after the four years, you compare the results. And if it's different, better or worse, then we can make some decisions about how we're going to change it. Because I honestly believe if one year they were like, you know, this is such a culturally important Australian work. And then one year they're like, oh, like, this is about like a curious duck with a hat. You know what I mean?

Like, this is someone who's never made anything and probably shouldn't be allowed to make anything. And we just gave them $500,000. What's going to happen? Yeah. And I just think it would be more interesting for the Australian world of film. Because I think currently... Like a ballot kind of. Well, yeah.

Like lottery. Like lottery where it's just like, name yeah like no additional information just like see what happens if we give this fucking whackadoo five hundred thousand dollars because it's like the weirdest the weirdest australian films were like from the you know koki 70s 80s and 90s when there was like money like particularly in the 70s when you got like you know mad max and bad boy bobby and like all of this fucking crazy shit because it was just like here take the money we need to have an Australian film industry go like and then you got yeah picnic and

hanging rock as well but you also just got like a bunch of fucking hippies doing a lot of coke and making really insane films on the the you know government dime and now because there's this like really intense oversight and there's not a lot of money to go around everything has to be important and so we end up with all these films that are like quote unquote important but no one wants to see Yeah. Buh. Yeah.

Boring. Particularly online. No one wants to see your important online web series. Oh, you lived in the regional area and you were gay. Boo. Yeah. For a long day at work. Yeah.

I don't need to see that. I want to see you guzzling calm. Yes. In the bushes. Yes. Bring back. That's important. Screen Australia.

Pay for that. The spoiler, ladies, we wrote a six-part series about the gobble ghost. yes his story needs to be told darwin would you know apparently if you go to perth they have a lot of money because they have mining money you can say they have a lot of gobble ghosts i'm sure they do yeah spooky um okay listener i have a quick update for you from last week's episode a time of recording this episode we're only halfway through the polls to find out which RPG element will enter the bunker what it's been said so far can you give me an update okay well here's two annoying things one on instagram you can only have four poll options so i had to split the poll across three stories and to indicate that in an efficient way to the listener on the first two i put one of those four slots as the there's more on the next story information point

Oh, so everyone's liked to that. Everyone's been voting for fucking more on the next story. Ha ha ha, listener. Ha ha ha. Ha ha. But there's two clear front runners. Also, lots of people have voted on multiples. So if you're stupid, I actually can't help you.

But I'm just going to go for like total votes overall. But at the moment, there's two clear front runners. Oh, I can give it away. Oh, well, they're not what I expected. You also didn't put any of the ones that I had said. Yeah, I don't know how that happened I want Vigar We can get some ride in votes for Vigar

Vigar was sorry Or metal How is that I don't understand But yes Next week listener We'll have the final results I can't I simply can't close the polls early

That would be wrong Pokemon go to the polls We live in a democracy Can't close the polls No Everyone's voice must be heard even if you've tried to vote multiple times and voted for the thing that is an option.

Do you expect people lying on their couch, like in squalor, I assume, if you're part of our core demographic, to just like, while I voted once. I don't want to ruin the game. I would like that, yes. Or here's what I would accept. You vote on the first page, and then when you click on the next door, you're like, oh wait I understand now

the seven options have been split over three stories I'll go back and remove my vote for fire as I actually want to vote for thunder which is on the second page Zelda you should have done

let me tell you put up the list one slide and then you know with a corresponding letter A lightning B metal C vigor

and then put an answer box below it and then people could only answer ones and they would just say A, B, C, Vigar. See, this is why this is, screen, Vic, should have, of a screen, I should have given us that money. Well, exactly. Because you have the social media plan down. I do have the prowess.

Yes. I understand how Instagram works. So you know what? I've learned something on this day. I know. I think now that I didn't before. Yes. So stay tuned for that.

And before we get into today's episode, which listener is another mailbox episode. As you know for the title. We should have had a decoy title. True. We'll do a decoy. It's all right. Baskow. But before we jump in, I have a, just a quick story.

And then later we'll hear your apocalypse. Mm-hmm. Okay. So yesterday at work, I was having... you know, a morning, stressful morning at work. And then halfway through the day, I'm on the shop floor. And a customer comes up to me. And she's like, excuse me.

Oh, God. Yes. Hello. She's like, can you help me out for a second? Something tells me, you can't be helped. It's like, yes, of course. um she's like oh my fucking daughter stole my blush so i need a replacement it's like oh her daughter who was standing next to her and eight years old

oh and the daughter is like ha ha ha and i was like you gotta come and see mom make a see now and so we go over to the um brand that she was looking at missus kisses if only She's like, I need this one. What brand? What brand should go to? Urban decay. No, an American brand, whatever. What is urban decay?

Urban decay is a cosmetics brand. I love you, B-O-Mathie. Yeah, what? I thought you were joking. Charlotte Tilbury? Who's that? Oh, she's a fabulous, urban main divider. You thought Florence was the only one

Working the Machine Also, Charlotte And the machine is a blush maker Yes Also a scene stealer Oh my God Sorry, go on So we head to the gondola

And she points to the blush And I'm like, oh yeah, sure So then I pull their little drawer open To if she actually, oh, I didn't know I could just open that myself That's fine Wait, are you meant to be able to open the gondolas yourself? Like the displays, yeah.

We're really not doing a good job to disguising what your job is anymore, are we? No. No. I'm trying. Oh, so she wanted a sausage roll. Yes, so yes. So then I pull the product out, hand it to her,

and she's like, oh, thank you. Won't be long before a little bitch steals it again. Oh, and the daughter is still there. Still eight years old. The lush cake down to her mouth. It's like, well, enjoy the rest of your day. She's like, thank you. She was, and it just completely flipped my mood around.

And my point is, bring the Bogan back. Where are the Bogan? She was so unhinged. It was incredible. It won't be long before the little bitch is an inch. It's like, well, what have you say? It was so funny. Yeah, I met a woman like that in the emergency department at the,

hospital one time when we were taking our daughter there because she had a fever or something she'd eaten a bunch of blush yeah this woman was in there and she was like desperate to make conversation with us love and our daughter was like violently throwing up as well into plastic bags and she was like oh that's happened to my daughter before you know and then she was like what's she in for obviously she's sick and um i was like oh so what are you guys here for because she had a she had a girl with her who was about maybe eight or ten as well yeah playing on the iPad and she's like oh she got her fucking um ear earbud stuck in her ear again oh my god it's like i can't get it out oh my god so she's given her like those headphones that have the little

you know, plastic tips and stuck them in her ears and it's gone in so far that she can't get it out. And it's happened again, she said. Oh, it was really weird. Yeah, again. Yeah, like it happens all the time.

Maybe she should consider it. She doesn't learn a lesson. Oh, over ear headphones. Yeah. Yeah. Big cups. Kids also look so cute in those big headphones. Yeah.

They don't fit them. Just get us some headphones. Yeah. My headphones. But they really, yeah, I think they just, those sorts of people Bogans They really just want to

They want to make friends Yeah Yeah well everyone does deep down It's just they don't have the They don't have the skills So maybe the way to make friends Is to be a bogan Yeah

That's the lesson I found that it's quite helped me in my career Can I ask both of you I'm sure you must have thought this You know When you were growing up But were you to be diagnosed With like a terminal illness as a child

what would your make a wish have been? Oh my God. Did you have that? Because I remember Jesse, who was the year 12 student, had a brain tumor when I was in high school. When I was in year 7, he was in year 12 or year 11, and he got to meet with Al Yankovich. You would have been quite jealous of that. I would have been very jealous. I also have a tumour.

Yeah, literally. Bake the tumor to get the wish. That was like all I listened to in grade 7, I think. Love Weird Al. Oh, my God. Zelda doesn't, but she doesn't understand the power. I don't have the power. But it's so up your alley.

No. Yes. Oh. I love Weird Al's like story songs. Oh, so good. Not like the parody songs, like the ones where he just, like tells a story, like Elbuquerque. I don't know if you've ever listened to that story. I haven't heard that one.

It's, yeah, and then no one where he goes. I will listen to it in the car on the way home. He goes through the drive-thru. Yeah. And it's, it's just, it's just genius. You don't like, bye, bye this are many young guy. No, I don't. Maybe Vader someday later, he's just a swell guy.

Oh my God, Amish Paradise. Oh my God, Amish Paradise is a perfect sign. Anyway, what would you make a wish be? Um, okay, so when I was of that age, it probably would have been to, like, have Elijah would visit me on my deathbed. Like a thousand percent I wonder if he did make a wish I feel like Orlando definitely did Elijah would

Definitely would The other day He popped up at some person's wedding In Hobarton in New Zealand Oh I was at spotlight the other day And the woman I put down this like olive

Like olive A fucking I want to say satin But it was a veloury kind of fabric And she was like Make a Lord of the Rings costume And I was like, no And she's like, yeah, I guess this is a bit too warm tone

They're cool tone And I was like, okay And she's like, but you could play a hobbit You've got the hair for it You look like Sam And I was like, ha ha, yeah And then she's like, sorry, I'm at my second shift For my second job today

And I was like, well, don't take it out on me, Diva Just trying to live my life But I do have such luscious curly hair She's okay to notice Brave Matt, what would you have wished for? No, probably meeting Weirdo Would be great

That would be my dream If I was in grade seven Yeah I feel like Weird out's the best make a wish Like that's such a good make a wish He'd make you laugh Okay, there's no publicly available information that Elijah Wood was part of a project called Make a Wish.

Damn. So cold. What do you get to do with Make a Wish? Do you get to just meet people? Yeah, or you can do, like, fun activities. Like, go to Wet and Wild. Yeah. I would hate it if they tried to, like, temper my expectations for my Make-A-Wish.

Oh, yeah. Like, if they were like, oh, probably not that. Oh wait, no, here we go. Elijah Wood has supported the Make-A-Wish Foundation appearing at one of their events alongside the actors from Lord of the Rings. Aw. I hate.

You know which one I hate? The Marvel Maker-Wish moments. Ugh. Where, like... They show up in the outfit. I mean, God bless, but... Yeah. As soon as dying children have poor taste.

Well, my Make-A-Wish would be like a cure to this tumor. To live forever My maker wish Make ten more wishes Have infinity make a wish Listen here, you little shit Well give them the infinity wishes What's you going to do with it?

Oh my God Yeah Okay Wait, yours is weird owl as well You seven me, weird owl I mean why not What Because he also seems like a fun hang

He seems cool Yeah Maybe Lego land Yeah Legoland Legoland would have been You're like a dinosaur I want to meet a dinosaur

Baby Yoda I want to meet baby Yoda If not Thinking about the year seven of it all Yeah Because I That was very early Lord of the Rings days

When I was in year seven Yeah My second option Thinking about myself at that age would either have been Burke from Burke's backyard Harry from Harris practice

Yeah That would have been my language Would have been Delta At the time Too much build up code Which like wouldn't be the case now But it would have been like Turfie Murphy

Oh yeah Or Tiffany Grant Who's Tiffany Grant? Who's Tiffany Grant? The voice actor for Oscar from Evangelion Oh, why would that be your number one? It may have been, I don't know. Bring me Tiffany Grant.

Probably Tiffany Grant. I wonder if she's ever done Make a wish. Probably, she does a lot of, like, cons and stuff, so, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, loser. That's good. That's quite a lineup. Do you think you would, um, plots even now if you met Elijah Wood?

Would I, what? Would you be like, oh my God, this is amazing? If I man, Elijah would. Yeah. Yes. Still? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Because I think he's done really cool stuff now. Like, I think he's... Do you think he's the best post-law of the rings? No, because Liv Tyler exists. She's just a landmine. She's a beautiful woman. Yeah. Um, and also, didn't you see those photos of fucking, um,

Cape Blanchet on the tractor? I think Cape Blanchet doesn't count. She was like barely in that movie. Show we Apocalypse now? Yes. Yes. I found out that magic erasers,

every time you use a magic eraser, you know what I'm talking about. I use them every day. Yeah. Magic erasers, great technology. It's essentially a mild sandpaper. It's an abrasive material that you can get permanent marker

off a plaster wall with a magic eraser. They're magic. Okay, but here's the thing. thing that I learned recently. Oh, no. Magic erasers, as you use them, you're sending just thousands of tiny pieces of plastic into your environment, microplastic. They get on every surface, like a really fine sandpaper.

Oh. And just get into everything, go into the air. And, you know, I'm a little bit freaked out by microplastics, the idea of them, the way that they, and I'm sure I've already done this as an apocalypse, but specifically due to the broadly available magic sponge, everyone uses it to get rid of life stains, not knowing that they're staining their own DNA. Oh my God. And soon everyone gets these intense brain hemorrhages from where there's like tiny

particles of plastic building up inside of their brain. rain, and then they die. Oh, my God. The whole thing was that it can clean anything, a little too, literally. It wipes the planet clean. Yeah, yeah. The world is magically erased. Like, I wasn't, like, I use them literally every day at work.

Yeah. Like, by the, like a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Only forever. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Because they do kind of like start to disintegrate as you use them. Well, part of using them is to disintegrate them. Yeah. Like, there's not a moment where they're not disintegrated. Have you ever dared to moisten one? Yes, that's how you have to use it. Oh, no, I use it both ways. Oh, you're terrible.

Oh, God. Using it dry, quite good. Maybe wet is keeping more of the microplastics. I would say it is. Yes. If it's dry, then they're just floating away. Are you going to think about that next time? I'll think about that for the rest of my life, unfortunately.

It's like the trapped water thing. Yes. How many have used? How many? magic erasers have I used? Yeah, because they're all inside, you know? Probably like 500? You know when they said, like, the average American eats a credit card every two years?

Yeah, yeah. Like, the average Zelda Moon has five magic erases in her brain. 500. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. God. Damn it.

Yeah. I have, like, visual images of you with just magic erases inside your body everywhere. Yeah. Wouldn't be the worst thing that's been inside her. Can you believe I got away In that Rexona ad that I just did On my Instagram I got away with

Oh it's you know Pharmaceutically tested It would be the first tested thing That's gone on my body Implying that I've had a lot of untested Gay male raw sex Yeah

And Rexona was like Yeah Slaidiva Save it It was very funny Oh thank God Yeah Maybe it was a bit too subtle for them

Yeah, I think so. I do think that they were like, I don't get it. My God. Okay, shall we adjourn and then be right back? We'll be right back. Welcome back, you've just dropped your magic eraser into the sea. Did you know, you can also use it.

it dry. Our first mailbox item today comes to us in the Show me your mailbox I think you're going to say

show me a moose like Captain Falcon No Um Show me your mailbox What's that? That's the theme Oh

It's an original thing Show me your mailbox Okay Sounds like It's a hit Club hit comes from Christine, long-time listener. Fabulous Christine.

Happy Halloween! This year, a friend helped me transform my 12-foot skeleton, Hector, into a giant witch inspired by Seldar Moon. I have a giant skeleton dog who is naturally Scooby-Doo this year. I decided I needed a little bit of a giant skeleton dog. a villain disguised as a werewolf and one thing led to another dot dot dot um and then sent through a series of photos which i'm just going to drip feed now into the chat um so this would of course be the um oh my god listener this is quite the image the the giant tell me what you see

okay so i see a very beautiful backyard quite a large backyard with an open kind of grassy sort of thing and then like a hodgepodge garden fence you could imagine spending long summer evenings out in this yard seems to be trees everywhere and then something concerning in the centre we see a giant towering skeletal woman

dressed with a witch's hat a pink body and a pink light shone upon her the eyes of a werewolf or a Siberian husky and just a two-piece set a gorgeous little top, a pink top and a big little pink miniskirt. Haven't said anything about her curly girl wig. And a gorgeous curly girl wig.

And then next to her is another skillington of a larger scale, but kind of crawling out of the ground. So you can imagine its torso is like cut. So it's just appearing as if the torso and its legs are kind of east. Islanding behind beneath the

ground and then there's a skeletal dog a different scale again and it too has

a kind of husky eyes and despite the fact that it's all bones its tongue is still fleshy

and then next to it is another skeleton a third scale and it's got a wig on

no eyes and a green shirt in a clear allusion to the Hannabarbera Scooby-Doo

franchise has. Yes. Then there was an accompanying message saying Hector even summoned some birds and then of course you'll see the photos of this is such a beautiful display. Yes. Of the witch Schennington with a murder of crows behind her I can only presume. It really looks so much like you. It's incredible. And then I just soak back to this. I decided I needed a villain disguised as a werewolf and one thing led to another. I'll just send a new series of photos. I'm not going to like this.

Well, we have a before and after. Christine. Christine. And then another accompanying message of Frederick, the other Skelington, is of course, channeling you, lazy. And then in brackets, sorry, the wig is so busted, sweating, smiley emoji. So there is a Skelington that's dressed in a boiler suit that's yellow. and has a wig that can only be described as my wig.

A messy yellow fringed moment. She does look good. She does. I do want to look like that one day. And she is wearing a lazy Susan name tag. Now, can you identify the employment? No. No.

It looks like... But it's a... It's a white badge with a red text, which is... You know, that's, I don't know, season one or something. quite divine well you've wasted your life but you've created a beautiful halloween decor but then one final um note on this is that emma another listener made the dress and the hat what are you kids doing this is so fun it's so cute and when i received these messages on hallow's eve I thought it was absolutely divine.

So thank you so much to Christine and Emma for this beautiful display. I think as a drag performer, all you dream of is an effigy created in your image. And as with all decorations, my favorite part of them is thinking about them being removed. Like, enough of this, get it down. Where do you put them? I wouldn't leave it up all year long. I mean. It's almost Christmas time and that means our neighbour's going to put on their

absolutely obscene level of decor I love it and they do like all their decoration looks like it's from the 1980s it's all made with asbestos so it's like Mary in their manger you know hanging out with

in a nest of asbestos yeah they're lit from within oh my god like a tungsten filament bulb barely lighting her face and a blotchy uneven molded plastic It's incredible.

I love it. Okay. Can we put these pictures of... They're going straight to the library so the people can study them. Ah, yes. For the Halloween night Thursday. I was going to say, can we put them on the Instagram as well? Oh, that too.

Yes, I'm sure. So you can go and check them out. Yes, so that's very responsible, Matt. So funny. I like that lazy's eyes are not lit up at all. Well, as in life. Hollowed out. You still have the husky eyes inside the ice.

pockets, but they're just not lit up like the way in the Zelders are. They're just deep set. Deep set. And that beautiful expression. More Skellington. Wait, what's with the werewolf lazy? Did we talk about that? Yeah, we didn't.

So prior to, well, either lazy turns into the werewolf or the werewolf turned into lazy. But there's also lazy werewolf, lazy wolf. Like a skeleton with a werewolf head. Yes. Dressed in the yellow suit. Fun combination. Hmm. Two versions. Day lazy and night lazy. And the moon is out.

I love it. Anyway, thank you so much for that. And we'll be right back. Bye-bye. Hello. It's time for our next piece of mail. And no, listener, if you'd like to send in mail, Send it to us at Death to Ephraimpod at gmail.com. That's right.

Here we go. Drag queens on film, brackets, urgent. This is from the 24th of October. Not really urgent. Oh, thank God. Dearly beloved, comma. This is from Lee. First time listener, long time caller.

In your recent episode, Lacey happened to mention her habit of closing her eyes in photos. Love. This reminded me of a certain sticky hot summer night at front of circuit, where my housemate and I drunkenly requested a photo of Lazy running away from us. The photos turned out great, if you happen to ignore how inebriated my housemates and I were, but I believe that some apologies are in order. That night, we also happened to run some drag names by Lazy's friend,

who throughout the process of taking the photo assertively prescribed that you all abscond to the kebab shop. the names were probably stupid and inconsequential Susan Sox Dimethyl chloride Dymethyl chloride Pardon me Possibly Rebecca Stuff like that

All of which were rejected I apologize to your friend And you lazy For wasting your time And harassing you in the street The photos are an absolute piss up though Now I'll just send through those photos and to dear Zelda

I must apologize I met you at a house party once lost my train of thought and finished abruptly with her and she won the Emmy for that I have to go piss so fiercely I did not in fact have to pee I was high and scared

and went on to watch brother bear in the front room with the sound off until I sobered up Matt, nothing's happened yet That's worth apologizing for But misery comes in threes Anyway, my question In multiple formats

I don't know how you use these listener mails Is, have you ever used another drag name Before you were all Zelda Moon, Matt last name And lazy Susan? Or which stock drag name enters the bunker? Sincerely, you're overzealous fan, Monica fake name. Oh, sorry.

Pictures are tagged And to answer the question of what we do with these photos I'm considering getting them framed and put them on top of the list of the latrines of the latrine system that's very fabulous Who is this person and why are you at a house party with them?

I think I think that this was a Teresa Problem's birthday party I think and if it wasn't wow I really They had to go and watch Brother Bear to get away from you I really stress them out You have that effect on people

There is nothing worse Than being around someone sober when you're high And what do you think about this hilarious photo I haven't seen it Okay Now I'm looking at another photo Which I know you guys love And I am running away

Do you remember this night And who am I with Hmm I don't know One incredible night They're taking selfies and lazy has just turned their back to them. Yes. I look incredible.

It's great. More photos of the back of me, please. Did you have a drag name before Lazy Susan? I didn't. It was just the original. But you know what? Famously, famously, when I got my drag name, Lazy Susan, I got it. Me and Bay Marie, Melbourne icon Baymarie,

were both working at Blondie Bar in Melbourne's South Bank next to the MTC and VCA and all those places and so we were like, we need to have we need to just get drag names but they need to be themed around like hospitality working in a restaurant so they have to be food kind of related

so that's how Bay Marie and Lazy Susan came to be born and then we insisted that our drag child would be share impersonator named chair. I've been saying this for nigh on nine years, ten years. Ten years. And then this week on Drag Race season seven, someone did the snatch game as a

chair impersonator called chair. That's crazy. I mean, just what a hell, what the hell? And now I can never, you know, it's like that joke is done now. Yeah. Yeah. And even now, people are like, Mm, it's not true.

Matt! Matt! You sat on it too long. Oh, ho. Oh. Oh. Oh. You're right, too.

Oh. to doctor. Shut on a too long. I need a little bit more support. Lumbar support. Now I've been on a two. Man, you kill me.

You ain't got a leg to stand on. You got four. Oh, oh, oh, oh, dear. Can I say, though?

Can I say You can't say If you have four gay guys And only one chair How do you give everyone a seat Turn it upside down Oh God That'll shit on a leg

That'll shit on a leg up their ass What? What do you mean? Is that a joke? That's a joke Oh Jesus Christ How do you get four gay guys on one stool Turn it upside down I just had a

The only thought I thought of Was just they were all sitting on each other's laps Yeah, that's what I was thinking too No, there's four legs And they're each cramming their assholes on the legs They square around Yeah, it doesn't matter It's like a hot dog in a whole way

That ridge to her pleasure Oh Gosh, what You don't want to see that? I don't want to see that Yeah Um, there's that, that's that bit of news. I'm feeling very like, yeah, spurned by that.

Benign girl, of course, well, now her drag name is Belinda Greed. But Benign girl started as Cleotaurus. Ah, yes. Yeah. Back in the day. She just, she just doesn't stick with anything. No, she's got no stick to itiveness. Um, I didn't.

No. Zelda, Moon. She is the one name, Zelda. She couldn't think of anything else, I guess. Matt. Hello. She just had one idea. She just went with the first thing you thought of.

And the pod. We had one idea. Being nasty. She got it right the first time. Being a nasty pasty. You're being a nasty pasty, Matt. You tell us now. I haven't actually tried drag yet, so I don't have a drag name.

Yeah. True. Next time there's an opportunity. I might get you guys to help me Oh well listen when you do it It's called being a CD And it has to happen in the dead of night Yeah

In a baronia suburban home Yeah yeah You know wear a nice little lace panty Yeah The battered brassiere Can't go out looking like that Yeah No I just deliberated over the name

For like maybe half year to a year God damn it's all the moon yeah um and then i was like i'm not doing this until i have what that sorted sorted yeah uh yeah uh yeah i remember at the time that i was so like i wish i could have been bay marie really yeah i loved the name be mary like i was like i feel like i really missed something on that name but then lazy susan has just been the perfect name for me totally Except when people go She's not that way

Is she? Yeah But on the flip side You love when someone says Like, I'm so Had such a lazy day And you're like I'm lazy

So I do love it Well, do I love it Or do I have to I don't know Yeah It's like when someone's like Obligated

To vibe What's the vibe? And she's like We did that to her. Yeah, everyone does it to her Yeah She goes, five bucks Five bucks

Yeah, for the vibe jar Oh Yeah And we'll be right back That's her To To be To every word

Hello, listener. Well, that was a really lovely letter. And now we have another wicked little letter. Wicked. That was a lovely letter. Wouldn't you say? That was nice. Just a series of apologies.

Yes. I'd like to receive apologies. Yes. Okay. Zedda. Now, I have... Do you not have an apology for me? Wait, what?

You're going to apologize? Wait, what are we apologising for? I don't know. I feel like you might have a few things to apologize for. Those shoes for one. If you don't know, then you need to think about it long. Oh, God. From listener, Melissa.

Melissa. The title of the email is, Your Exciting Craft and Metal Epp. Dear Divas and Space Car Driver Matt. Thank you all so much. for the pod and especially the sudden drop of season three. You're welcome. It's a surprise to resolve.

I'm a distant but ardent lover of you both in that I've seen Miss Moon perform it for Fringe in Boulou, Perth and missed Miss Susan despite her name being all over the quiz cards that were part of the show slash game, which Melissa, sorry, what? There's no way you could have seen the show without me. Yeah. You didn't miss one in. Perth. Like, you've actually never missed one of them. No.

Yeah. So. Unlike benign girl, I am concerned. That's fucking hell. I don't know why benign's taking any sort of rinsing. Rath, benign's husband. If you're listening to this, make sure she gets the message. Stop eating our blush. And...

Oh, little bitch is going to do it again. So funny. Yes. So many perform and loved her. Oh, yeah, but didn't see Susan, which you're a liar, but that's okay. You're a liar. Loved her and the white teeth every time she appeared on the early kick-on's episodes. And that love continues with your bitch-perfect pod.

Now, your recent app on craft and metal, spoiler and steel, and then in brackets and alloys, is all up in my ears. And it's my favorite, yes, even above the Melissa.com episode. as her name is Melissa. Love Melissa.com. I'm a jeweller, perhaps even a craft artist, and I'm here to console Zelda on losing the Damascus debate.

What is often referred to as Damascus steel is actually patterned welded steel, not a true crucible of steel that results in naturally occurring water-like patterns as the D, sorry, as in the D version. but the fine print matters little since both are equally ugly which Melissa

God you're just spot on there be that as it may as you rightly mentioned in the episode you can just melt and reuse and even realloy metal which is great for Zelda and me

obviously that matters far less but still thank you correct this is the ravings of a mad wolf It's the best email we've had so far. It's a bit of my pay grade, but the collective we do have the technology to turn that terrible looking steel into a brand new shiny steel with an electric furnace. And from there, make practically anything. I do not know what she's even saying.

Is she saying this in English? As you can tell, steel is my favorite medal. I'm so glad that some of it's made it into the bunker. Steele is my favorite medal and I'm glad that some of it. But to all this, to all in the space car today, that's Kisses in Italian. Melissa. Thank you, Melissa. You just liked that one because she reaffirmed everything that you were talking about.

I think you wrote that. I saw Zelda, but I didn't see Lazy. Yeah, true. She's sick. How amazing, is that? You can bet I'm glad that steel is in there. What do you mean? What do you mean?

Well, Melissa, I don't know what to do for you. It's great. But if I could make a wish, brain tumors for all. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm raising money currently for peace of mind, the brain tumor organization. So please go and bid on my incredible work of art.

Yes. Say more. Well, there is an organization that my mother-in-law, she had a brain tumor, and she said that peace of mind was really good. They're in Jandjuk in out past Jolong, and they just offer support to people who are going through that, and that can be advocacy or if they need support, payments from the government they can like help them with their forms and stuff like that or just like basically like i don't know i think like if it's like where do i go for this service or this treatment or who's who should i talk to about my my plans like my medical plans and like all of that kind of stuff and they are having an art auction with various artists work and um i was

actually meant to host it but i unfortunately couldn't so um the next best thing was giving them a disgusting piece of work. And now they have it. And we're raising money. Yeah. To support the supporters. I realized

what, so go online if it's still, it's finishing at the very start of December, so you still have time to bid on my beautiful piece of work. But I realized on this whole listener mail thing. Yeah. That I've been the victim of a listener male. Oh. And I

I think that now that it's over, I can air this dirty laundry. Have you heard of this gatekeeping pod? Gate. Gate. Yeah. Spelled gay. Gate. So they recently ended their pod.

Yeah. Sorry, girls. And it was a show that was like specifically about passing kind of niche pop culture law. and I went and did an episode and that was the episode I spoke about on here where I'd gotten into full geese and pretended like I'm going to another gig later but I wasn't going to another gig later

and then because it was a video podcast and I wanted to turn out as lazy Susan and they lost the footage and so it didn't go up strike one you know and then Sam of that podcast was like so we're having our final episode

and as we want to do we like to have former guests send in a voice message and I love that on shows as they're ending I think it's so sweet and so I was like

okay well I'd love to I'll make a carve out some time in my busy chesh as well and then second strike after losing the footage of me second strike and like the request

something is send a message and then also do you want to reflect back on the subject that we discussed when you were on. Yeah. Okay. First strike. The episode comes out

and I am away from my phone and read the description of the episode. Oh. And it says featuring guest appearances from Mike's Mike, bald and out,

Tana Tan 36, and many more. Many more. You know her. I carved time in my schedule fucking Mike's Mike. But I'm many more. Yeah. Diva.

So I'm already like on it. Did you get into drag to do the voice memo? Yes, of course. Anytime you're like I am now. Okay. So then the episode comes out and I'm like, well, let's see what many more has got. Let me play you a little bit of what I got as many more. Oh my God.

So there we have a best in rapid fire. Yes. And now we've been lucky to have some alumni of a prestigious television program. Many more. And this, we've had losers, we've had winners. And now we're going to hear from them. So we've got some messages from Lazy Susan first. If you'd like to play that.

Hello, gatekeepers. This is Lazy Susan. Okay, well, I'm not going to play you what I said. But I gave, like, a full rundown of, like, what we were talking about, which was Parker Posey and Josie and the Pussycats. And then I was, like, talking about how Parker Posey had been snubbed at the Emmys on White Lotus. And then I was talking about how the girl from the pit had won the year before, which we talked about on the same. To see what comes from both of you next. I'll see you both in hell.

Goodbye. And then... I think I'm our most crazy messaging. that we're going to play tonight. Yeah. No offense to her, but I really, when we were getting these messages collated, I didn't think we'd be spending so much time talking about the sort of minutiae of Parker Posey's Emmy nomination.

But, you know, that's why we love Lazy Susan, because she's going to do that. She'll take us on a journey, and she might take a little while to get there, but I'm always along for the ride. Oh. And I wonder, what is the Blake lively of it all in regards to Parker Posey? Did I miss something there? Yeah, I think I missed that. Was she in?

It ends with us? No, because it was Jennifer Ely. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what the hell any of you for hags are talking about, to be honest. You're too busy watching Mission Impossible. Well, you know, as Lazy Susan mentioned there, I'm watching The Pit, Honey, which is one of the best shows I've made. And, you know, that was vindicated at the Emmys when it won basically everything.

Congratulations to the cast and crew of the pit is my main message from tonight. And yeah, speaking of the pit's crew, we have another beautiful message from. Sorry? Wow. Excuse me? Did I just get, fuck, what do you mean? Got truth bombed? Yeah.

What? I will never again. I'm glad the podcast is over. Oh, my God. Did you hear the way they laughed? Yes. And I was quite sincere. that message, I said, oh my God, like, I'm really excited for both of you.

I'm excited for what comes next. Like, da-da-da-da-da. And they're like, didn't she like to talk for a while? You asked me to do this. You asked me to do this and you can edit it. Yeah. What do you mean? You can edit it.

And also, your whole show is about being fags who are overly obsessed with pop culture. And then you have the nerve and gall and audacity to be like, Why did she know a niche fact about the fucking Emmys? Are you kidding me? Pot kettle, bitch. I was shocked and appalled. Strike number three for these motherfuckers and more. Many more.

And if you're listening to this, gatekeeping, lock the gate. You're not allowed in. I think I'm claiming many more is my drag name if that's still going. It's kind of like Mandy Moore It is a bit It is a bit There's already Mandy mobs And many more

Mandy mobs and many more Welcome to the stage Many more How funny Did you hear the tone Yes What is that tone about Yeah

That is a weird tone It's not grateful No For your current reigning queen To take the time Out of her busy schedule And it was also bespoke It went back in my

mind and thought, what did we talk about? Did you research? Well, exactly. I tried it to provide, like, they were like, talk about the thing that we talked about. I wouldn't, I would just send a message saying, have a, have a great life. Well, you know what? See, you never. See, you fucking knew.

Podcast is ending, and we've just ended season three. Well, that's right. So, who's laughing now? That's right. It's like Cougatown. Everyone's laughing because it's such a great show. Oh, my God. I'm so mad.

Anyway, that was such as, where do I even put that anger? Where do I put this anger, Zelda? You need a Melissa to back you up at times like this. Yeah, Melissa. God, Damascus is so ugly. I hope Melissa goes into their house and kills them in their sleep. And says, Faisi! With a handcrafted knife.

Yes. My blade is steel. Yeah, it's actually her favorite. The police find a knife on the floor And they're like, it's still her favorite Oh my God It should be It's a list of all famous molysses

Yeah, sequel to the net Melissa dot land Yeah Oh my God I just want all our listeners And former guests to know The day that this show ends we will have

we will have voice messages from esteemed former guests and they will not be disrespected no apart from all

wait that's what we did last mailbox episode and kind of what we did today what disrespect them yeah that's a listener

it's not guest true true true true if they're not you know wrapped up in some apocalyptic

future yeah true yes because the podcast is only ending when the apocalypse arrives. Well, yeah, I think so.

Yeah. That was the idea. I think. Countdown clock. That clock in the city that's counting down? What's that counting down to? Oh, no, I don't like that. Have you seen it?

No. There's an alley. I'm seldom in the city, Zelda. Seldom in the city? Just empty shots of New York. They'd say the city is one of the other. the girls. You should see a spin-off series.

Anyway, there's like an alley, and at the back of the alley, there's this giant digital clock that is counting down. Oh, what's it at? Oh, my God. Oh, no, it's like thousands of. Tyra Sanchez. She's coming. Oh, my God.

Anyway, the information of what that is counting down to is probably readily available, but I don't know. Anyway, watch this glass. Staring of the clock. By that, I guess it's counting down specifically. Maybe it's a Banksy. Zelda, maybe it's a Banksy.

Maybe. Oh, God, he's crazy. Have you seen him? No one has. Maybe it's a Banksy, Zelda. Anyway, when I was listening to Girls Next Level last week, they were talking about, what? How does that show still going? It's so good.

How much? They're only up to like halfway through season three. Oh my God. We need to just find something to structure our show around like that. We're going to watch all of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. What if we became really committed to a show we don't really care about? Like the pit. Anyway, they were talking about how they've got like their,

they were like, you know, we've reset up our like Google phone so you can call it to leave your voicemail. Uh-huh. Which I was like, what the fuck are they talking about? Should we do that? Yes. Okay. So I'm going to set up the Google phone.

Is it going to take you a half a year, like finding your drag name? Maybe a full year, like it ended up taking. What were your other options? I wanted to do something fine, like either Fran or like Zelda Fine, something. Tram Fine. Tram Fine. No. Not interested in a pun name.

Welcome to the stage. Tram fine. I mean, that would be... Tram is a... Is that a Vietnam? Like, Vietnam? Imagine. Yeah.

That would be so good. You need to find a Vietnamese girl. Yeah. Is that... Tram fan. Oh my God, that's funny. But, uh... Yeah, so anyway, um, continue to ride in, please.

Like, we actually love it. Um, but also, maybe soon you can send in a voice note. Also, I listen to this really lame Star Wars podcast. Which one? it's called um empire radio oh get it because um did you listen to that going solo one no you need to know no but i should so good yeah listen to melbourne and who does a an incredible star wars podcast about the making of the solo movie and the other one and um she's amazing i'm obsessed with her she's got such a good voice yeah and just listen um but yes they do

voicemail every episode and it's all people who have like voicemail in yeah um but they have like people who write in every week and like add parts to their star wars fan fiction oh it's so tragic and do they make fun of those people um no they very earnestly go like can't wait to hear what happens next week oh oh it's so grim but anyway um yeah i think it'll be so fun if you like send in your voicemail obviously do so knowing that we'll play it. Yeah. Amazing. Do that.

Yeah. So I listen to there's a podcast called Search Engine with PJ Vote. And he did an episode called The Anthropological Deep Dive into Gooning. And it was a guy who'd done this huge article about gooning culture. Yeah. And I was like, fascinating. because there's just a little bit more to gooning than I thought and there's one part of it where like if you it's kind of like online

you can be fed porn by have you heard about this no like you are like in your goon cave and then you're like porn feeder will like send you like link after link after link after link of like porn links that you might like to try and like perfectly triangulate your turn on yeah and then like the gooner will be like more more until they finally come wow and then you're like I've done my job as the porn feeder wow give me

brittany spears give me more Britney in her goon cape yeah oh I guess and then the they have one guy describing his goon cake And he's like, so I have like three like 8K monitors and then a projector and then a small tablet and then blah blah.

Oh my God. And the guy's like, yeah, so that's his goon cave. And the way the goon cave works is it's like not like each one of those screens is playing just one porno. Each one of those screens is playing like 30 pornoes all in little screens, all like looping and ending and beginning the next video. Yeah. So he like, and he's like, well, the thing about going into the, like, the flow state that is a hardcore goon and bait is that, like, you might kind of start rolling off your chair and your head might lull to the side while you're hardcore gooning. And then it's just so that wherever your eyes rest, you're going to see porn. Yeah.

Wow. There's going to be porn somewhere. You're just like, oh, wow. You don't ever have to, like, have the injustice of, like, activating the muscles in your neck. To turn your head. Your head towards born. Yeah. It's just like, there it is, there it is, there it is.

Glazing over and your goon cage. But the thing about it is, I was listening to this information like, oh, interesting. That's interesting. And then the host are like, I think the majority of people would never like, you know, do anything like this or like go into this world. And they just was like revealing how like lame and prudish these people are. Because I think their response was like so like, isn't. this bizarre and fascinating. Yeah, but this also sounds like,

I think a majority of people are not gooning and baiting, but, like, have a weird kink. Yeah, or like, something going on. Like, at some points, like, yeah, like rituals around what they're doing or what they like. I just don't think, I don't think, like, from my experience, particularly with, like,

straight men who are married, my experience tells me, that like there's a lot of weird shit happening in plain sight and like these guys I'm like either you are boring or you're not copping to the weird shit that is going on

like in your, either in your marriage or outside of your marriage. Like trust and believe. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, love it. Shwell, before we end out today's episode,

I just want to also say that listener, it's not too late. you could visit some celestial goddesses at Honto Disco on the 29th of November. That's right. If you so desire. The 10-year anniversary of Hontro Disco. Yeah. Your favorite podcast hosts will be there.

Hosting? Yes. Gooning and baiting. Indeed. We'll be setting up the cave. And do you know what? The one last thing about gooning was, I explained to Michelle Visage what gooning was. I was like, oh, they're gooning and baiting.

And she was like, gooning and baiting? And I was like, what's that? And I'm like, well, you know, you're like gooning. You're like a goon. While you're baiting? And then I did the gooning face. And she was like, oh. Please stop doing this.

Where's Isis-Savis, Lauren? Farnie. Yeah. Anyway. Anyway, listener, thank you so much. I thank you. I thank you so much. Thank you so much.

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