Death To Everyone - Death To... Superstitions, Drag Race Emmy Looks & Rainbow Colours

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And then I spent so many nights just thinking how you did be wrong. But I grew strong and I learned how to get alone. Should I buy this tropical Rob Lobster hat? Rock lobster. I'm going to send it. But it's a bit, it's a colorful. Whereas this lobster, southern rock lobster hat is more of a traditional. What's this for?
Starting point is 00:01:00 I'll just send them now, and you can tell me which one I should get, if any at all. And listener, you'll be involved in this, right? Listener. Oh, right. The podcast. Zelda, you're on a show. Yeah. You mean these are the hats that Matt is wearing right now?
Starting point is 00:01:16 I've got a pigeon on my hat. Yeah. It's literally this exact hat, but with a rock lobster in place of a picture. Well, I can't help what Instagram gives me. Are you cribbing Mac's style? No. Are you trying to become the new mat? No.
Starting point is 00:01:27 You'll never be mapped. You can't drive. I'm one of a kind, everyone. That's right. There's only one mat. Only one straight guy with brown hair called Matt. Yeah, that's it. He plays in a band as well.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Do you know one time we were at the market or something with my friends, and they were like, one of my friends saw this guy, and they were like, that guy looks exactly like you. And he brought him over. This poor guy was like just trying to do his shopping. and he brought him over and like can you just stand next to my friend so I can take a photo of you and then like we were standing next to each other
Starting point is 00:02:06 and we were kind of looking at each other and my friend was absolutely pissing himself with laughter and he was like what's your name and the guy was like Matt and did he actually look like you? And he lost it my friend just was like
Starting point is 00:02:19 could not handle the coincidence but also did he look like you? Yeah he did where is the photo? Well Lost a time Lost a time I might find it
Starting point is 00:02:29 And send it to you Photos are on the internet Photos are on the internet Yeah Okay this is a show It's a podcast show It's a podcast television show Yes
Starting point is 00:02:38 We're in drag And we are two drag queens But we're also celestial goddesses Obviously Operating from the edges of the universe The known quantum realm Driving in a space Cloud through outer space
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yes Deep space And I am lazy Susan. And I'm Zelda Moon. And you heard the voice of Space Car Driver Matt. Don't be confused.
Starting point is 00:03:03 It's not the other guy from the market. It's not that other guy from the market. Where's he? Wait, maybe it is. It's not the other guy called Matt with Brown Hand. Do you think he stole, like, you know, went full switch us style? Yeah, do you guys just swap every couple months?
Starting point is 00:03:16 Was he your Lupita Nyongo? Yes, we do. Yeah. And hilarity ensues. Yes. I love that doppelganga challenge that happened on Facebook. book 20 years ago. That was fun. Was that a celebrity one or just...
Starting point is 00:03:30 Yeah, where people had to put up the celebrity doppelganger. Doppel ganger. What was yours? Alex Winter from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Because he has deep-set eyes and blonde curly hair. And an aquiline nose. And you were cook Keanu Reeves, Zelda? If she could be.
Starting point is 00:03:49 We should do that one time. I don't think Nanu. People always used to say Dave Grohl when I had my long hair. Oh my God. It is. Like all the, like that, yeah. What does Dave Grohl sing? Wait, does he?
Starting point is 00:04:04 I don't want to wait for our lives to be open. Oh, you're more handsome than Dave. Yes. Sucked in, Dave. Sorry, Dave. Sorry about it. But he's richer than you are. Yeah, well, he sang that song.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I don't want to wait for a life to be over. I want to me. Oh, yeah. No, but I can see it. I can see you're both brown men, brown hair men. Yeah. Not both brown men. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Do you know that, what is his name? Andrew W.K. Andrew Lloyd Weber? You don't look like him. No. He had this Andrew W.K. Is that right? Jeremy, if you're listening to this right now, is that right?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yes. Okay, so not so much him, but that was also one. But he had this album cover, album cover with blood. Oh, where he has this like blood nose. What a hot man. Oh, my God. Andrew W.K. Isn't that hot?
Starting point is 00:05:04 You know? Sure. This night, I get wet. Anyway, welcome to our podcast. This is the weekly podcast where we go through fabulous topics. And why would we do such a thing? Well, it's the end of days. But fear not.
Starting point is 00:05:18 For lazy Susan and I have crafted a doomsday bunker. And inside that bunker, we put fabulous things from fabulous topics. quicks to be preserved for old time. That's right. If you don't have a Doomsday bunker, what are you going to do when the Doomsday rolls around? Yeah. And famously, Avengers Doomsday will come out in late 2027.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Holy shit. Do you know we are living through the end of the era? Of comic book films. Yeah. Yep. I don't think so that's true. You don't think that's true? No.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Maybe the golden era. But that has already ended. I think we're just like going to, we're in the rattle. We're in the rattle. I mean, like, you know, in the same way that Westerns never went away. All right. Like, there's still Westerns being made all the time. Republicans have to do something.
Starting point is 00:06:08 But the, but we are, we are out. But I don't know what's going to replace it. Do you think it's a bit unkind to spaghetti to have a term like spaghetti Western? Spaghetti, such a derogatory term. Because it was shot in Italy. What? What's where they're called Spaghetti Westerns? Is it?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah. I thought it was just like silly, unsirious Western. Not. Wait, what? I don't know what a spaghetti Weston is. Okay, so there was Westerns. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:06:33 They were shot in America. Yeah. But then there was, who was the director? I don't know. Yeah. His name will occur to me later on. Mussolini. No.
Starting point is 00:06:44 He shot a bunch of Westerns, like shot in Italy and Spain. Yeah. To kind of disguise, like, like to look like the old West, but they just used the like Mediterranean countryside as like a stand-in for the West. And so they were called spaghetti Westerns. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Oh, I always sort of just meant like silly Western, like unsurious. Sergio Leone. Oh, same, same. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Well, forget everything I said.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Yeah, well, now you get it. Hmm. Only kind of. But why don't they call, I don't know, like, them spaghetti comedies. What do you mean? Comedy's shot in Italy. Spaghetti.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Spaghetti. Yeah. And why wasn't it called a Pia Western, you know? Bailia. I think it's because he was Italian. No, but you said they shot some in Spain. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:41 But the Sergio was... Oh, he's the only person who's ever done a Spaghetti Western? Oh, he just did the most successful version. You know? I don't know if I've ever watched a Western. They're good. I mean, like, there's some good ones.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Some good ones in the mix I don't know Yeah Well that's what they'll be saying About superhero films You'd be like There's some good ones Shehulk
Starting point is 00:08:00 Love shehulk Love that No but yeah I think that We'll see how Doomsday goes But given that like You know It's just the business isn't there anymore
Starting point is 00:08:11 Correct But where have they gone Well Where's the money gone? Yeah I don't know Yeah I guess you know
Starting point is 00:08:18 Trolls To minions You know The minions have the money Smiths. Yeah. As we battle to get people into the cinema. You know?
Starting point is 00:08:30 Films about cars with Brad Pitt. It feels about car. Wait, the F1 movie? Yeah. What the fuck? That did well. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Surprise it. I can't keep up with the F1 car. You wait until you see F2 and F3 and F8 of the Fiest. Anyway, it is windier. outside, can I tell you? It's so witty. Wind is scary. We nearly got blown away today.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I got little dust particles in my eyes. Well, that's the thing. It's not the wind itself that scares me. It's the things in it. Dust. Yeah. Trees. Leaves.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I'm very scared that a tree branch is going to fall on me. It does feel like how I die. Mm. Yeah. Would you rather be like beaten to death with the branch or impaled? Like, do you want force of impact to, like, rupture your organ? Or do you want to be pierce? Cut through.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I want an open casket. Yeah. So let's just do a nice, like, clobbering. Yeah. Yeah. And where would you like it? Round the torso. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Not on the head. That's it. At least, you know, let me have a death shroud. Let me have a mask. Did you see, not to harp on this for a second week in a row, but that right after we recorded the Misso, of Charlie Kirk posted his hands, his embalmed hands of the funeral with her like perfectly manicured hands and like saying like goodbye husband and he had this like yellow hue. He was the
Starting point is 00:10:07 minions. Oh. It was so like what am I watching? Yeah. Wow. I did watch the video, her little speech. And I was haunted to see that it is exactly as she said. She talked about the blueberries. It was that little bitch's blueberry bunch of the kill my husband. Yeah. My fatty daughter just wanted all those blueberries. You know?
Starting point is 00:10:35 Probably she was content with the Captain Crunch. She might still be here. She wanted fruit. Yeah. Yeah. What a world. What a world. Anyway
Starting point is 00:10:47 Thank God we don't have to live in it No Only judge it What else is happening What else is happening in our lives Oh my God I wish there was more I could speak about But I've got to keep so many squirrel secrets at the moment
Starting point is 00:11:03 I feel like such a squirrel secret thing So I have to like You got things cooking I got things cooking But none of it can't take the lid off You know Can't be served just yet That's right
Starting point is 00:11:14 You can't take you know with the rice You've got to leave the lid on So the steam cooks it after you turn in row I When I worked at Paul Louis Chinese restaurant Like the steamed rice Like rice in a At least in that Chinese restaurant
Starting point is 00:11:30 Was such a interesting process Because like We would have vats of rice That would like Had been like cooked that day and then cooled And then you would either reheat for the steamed rice Or you would incorporate into your fried rice.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah. But I just have this vivid memory of like an entire wall of the fridge just with like, like rice cooker pots, but they're like gigantic, like bigger than a sink kind of thing. Yeah. Filled with rice. And then making those chic little like rice warmers that you like get on the table, like the little Tupperware kind of thing. Love that.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Oh, I love that. But how evil that you like, what? That's like a turn. Paper, person. for those things. It was like $2 per person or whatever. $2. You can't pay for your race.
Starting point is 00:12:20 For the VAT. No, but it just felt like there should have been a cap on that, but there wasn't. So if you had like a table of nine, it was $18 for steamed rice. That's too much for a ride. Correct. And are they still open? Yeah. Oh, well.
Starting point is 00:12:35 They know more about it than us. Yeah. If you're in Rye on the morning to peninsula, go to Polly Chinese restaurant. And take a photo. And ask for me. And how much do you think that rice is now? Um, maybe $3 per person Definitely more than it was in the 1980s
Starting point is 00:12:50 When you were there As a teenager Sorry How old are you? 60 60,000 years Oh No, no
Starting point is 00:13:04 Enough of your silly jokes I make silly jokes Do you think we're living at the end of times Yes Yeah Um Yes I just like
Starting point is 00:13:15 the America of it all just continues to just puzzle me and you genuinely just don't actually know what could happen next no and I think it's just like nothing has dignity anymore
Starting point is 00:13:32 you know I'll be the first to say I don't think that we're bringing the dignity the world needs most now no but nothing has dignity there's nothing really No. All we can do is huddle down in our own little separate communities and just chit-chat and have a laugh.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Hide from the wind. Yeah. What a great equalizer. Weather. Weather. Yeah. Not if you're in Dubai Airport. You can't feel anything at the outside world there.
Starting point is 00:14:03 True. Sterile. My God. I was looking today at Ariana Grande's post and her dog is wearing a hideous dog harness. And I thought to myself, celebrities have to buy the same dog harness. harnesses as everyone else. Yeah. There's not like the, I mean, I suppose there probably is like a Louis Vuitton dog harness.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yeah. But like generally speaking, you can't get like tech gear for your dog that's like bougie. Yeah. Well, you probably can. But yeah, I see what you're saying. But not like, like, there isn't like secret companies. There isn't like secret company. Like there's not like a secret dog harness company that is like so secret that you
Starting point is 00:14:40 only find out about it when you're Ariana Grande. Also like. How would you know? Well, because. that dog harness was fucking disgusting. Like every other dog harness. Yeah, I think... Maybe she didn't like those ones.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I think that the better takeaway here is that like no amount of millions upon millions upon millions of dollars will inoculate you or insulate you from the forces of bad taste. And once the forces of bad taste are preying on you specifically as a consumer,
Starting point is 00:15:08 they will not let go. Can I also say that like that redhead right Ariana Grande 's partner oh he's gone he's gone
Starting point is 00:15:21 well Des Moire's been saying that they're broken up because he was at the VMA's was he yeah but he's on the red carpet he wasn't sitting
Starting point is 00:15:29 no was he maybe he wasn't but he was on a red carpet recently and they were like have you had a chance to listen to anything that Ariana Grande
Starting point is 00:15:37 is going to be taking on her concert tour and he was like me no no I haven't heard any of it but I'm so excited for her
Starting point is 00:15:46 to go on to her fans of the best and everyone was like okay and then she didn't attend the VMAs with Ethan Slater Who's that? That guy Oh And everyone's She's ruined another life for nothing
Starting point is 00:16:01 She was meant to live with that man forever This is what I was getting to Can everyone shut up? It's just so stupid Yeah Like the whole thing is so stupid Yeah I can't
Starting point is 00:16:14 I think it's like the, when people are like talking about God as like being a reason to act in a specifically moral way, that's the same thing I hear when people are like, she, this celebrity that I don't know, that I have none of the details for, did this and broke up this relationship. I'm like, bitch, you don't know them. Yeah. Who cares? Mind your fucking business for one. Yeah. Number two, why do you care of a random couple? stays together for all time.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah. They're not you. No. And like this weird, like, it's like a lot of these people will not be like, you know, ultra-orthodox Christians. And I'm like, why are you carrying on? Like, we live in a world where there's some kind of morality to like staying in, like, monogamous long-term relationships.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Like, yes. Who cares? Modern society doesn't follow one moral code. Do you know what? It's possible that he got. separated from his wife because they didn't get along and no child that they have will change that they don't have to stay together in fact there's a lot of children who have married parents who will tell you their parents shouldn't have fucking stayed together correct and that people should go and find
Starting point is 00:17:33 their bliss now does that mean they're good people who know but who the fuck cares it's like exactly that like when my parents split I was always very like, well, finally, yeah, as I'm miserable together. Yeah. And my mother, I would say still feels guilty for leaving while I was still in like the final years of high school because she was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:57 I tried to stick it out to like be there for you and to keep the family unit together. I'm like, why? Yeah. Why? You're psycho. If you are unhappy, you should have gone. And I mean, she finally did.
Starting point is 00:18:11 But that is so, like, weird. because she did do it in the end, but it's like, well, no one is. Yeah. Like, it's only your... You have been indoctrinated into this idea that you need. And like, I...
Starting point is 00:18:25 You think that the world... I don't think you should leave your long-term relationship at the drop of a hat. I think if you're, like, deciding that you're going to be together... Unless it's a tiny hat. Well, unless it's a... If they put a tiny hat on, you should leave. Immediately.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Lock the doors, burn the house to the ground with the person inside. And any children you might have had from that, marriage they need to die too because they share a lineage with the tiny hat wearer yes um and even if it's been dropped off at like a donation bin or into a being that it doesn't matter because they wore the tiny hat yeah the sully you know it is sullied their head yes but yes um i think that it is just a weird like the internet is so and normally it's like 17 year olds 18 year olds or middle-aged mothers like chiming in being like she's a fucking home I'm a killer, throw acid in her face.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I'm like, just to clarify again, what, uh, what are you talking about? And what a weird fucking thing to think about and care about? Yeah. Yeah. Cooked. When you could be caring about a new skin on Marvel rivals. Oh, you're right. No skin.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah, this week, Ultron got a new skin. Boring. So anyway. Yeah. But I didn't say last week that Angela's a lesbian. Can you believe it? Angela Anaconda's a lesbian. Correct.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I always knew she was very aggressive about Nanette Manoir for almost no reason. Perhaps she felt, you know, a burgeoning twinge of her own sexuality to come. Yes, she didn't understand it. So she took it out on poor, whatever. Nanette Mamois. Yes, there it is. My name is Angela. Hey, hello.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Welcome to my very unusual. What was that Italian boy's name? Bobby? No. Vinny? No. It doesn't matter. Yeah, you're so right.
Starting point is 00:20:16 You're so right, Matt. You're so right. God, I wish I could drive down the coast right now into a gorgeous, like, like, I wish I had a vacation home perched atop a cliff. And I could gaze out into the crystalline blue waters in a kind of white marble living room that's very sterile and cold.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And the whole house would be like in the wind. Oh. And, yeah. Um, shall we? Yeah. Yeah. Lazy Susan. The wind is coming.
Starting point is 00:20:56 The apocalypse this week, listener, as we do every week, we decide how the world ends. Windy. It's getting windy. Or if you're from New Zealand, Wendy. So what happens is If you're Winnie the Pooh, blustery Sorry Is this that Star Wars thing all over again
Starting point is 00:21:20 We make a reference to it I've just been watching a lot of Winnie the Pooh lately Wait, the 90s one No, the 70s one The one that goes Pooh Bear Winnie the Pooh Bear Oh no not that one Rumbly timbly
Starting point is 00:21:34 Climbing a honey tree Yeah I did love that one But I'm not on to that one I feel like you are in winning the Pooh Zelda as whomst well let's say it on three Matt one two three
Starting point is 00:21:50 rabbit oh maybe like a perfect it was a double homicide perfect combination between the both no you know rabbit's always growing her vegetables or his vegetables and it's like get out of my garden
Starting point is 00:22:05 no Tigger it's ruined yeah wait that does sound like me the mere existence of others does frustrate me so well you're going to love this wind ah yes so the wind it blows in and everything essentially it goes to i don't know 400 miles per hour yeah and then everything is just like essentially just being torn apart piece by piece. Eventually, everyone is just like impaled, crushed, so much dust blows around. It just becomes untenable. Can I say something as a confirmed imbecile? You know, Twister? The film
Starting point is 00:22:49 with Helen Hunt. Yes. Is that like, you know how they send all like the little nanobots into the twister to establish and learn about how it works? Yes. Is that like how they really, is that real? I don't know. Is that like how we research cyclones or whatever? I'm sure. I don't think so. Then, oh. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Because that, maybe they should try it. That's kind of cool. I think they use a lot more satellite data. Back when we used to have research, now that Trump's cut them all, I don't know. I don't know that we're doing that anymore. Because, yeah, is it then sci-fi? Sci-fi, twister. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Helen Hunt. Yeah. I guess. I don't know. And with that, we'll be right back. Bye-bye. I don't remember such a song. I was never into Winnie the Pooh.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Rue. Rue The Pooh, he's so cute. Bah. It's got such a... Yeah. The original one is great. I watch it with Cedar, and it's like, perfect. It's just so low stimulating, like, it's very, like...
Starting point is 00:24:08 Yeah. Just very slow pace. It's got a nice vibe. There's no scary parts. Hmm. There's no, like, overwhelming, hyper-stimulating parts. Hmm. It's good.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Do you remember when Space Horse didn't know who Mr. Ed was? I feel like that's okay. I'm still thinking about that. People not know about Mr. Ed? I don't know what that is. Yeah. It's very, like, deep-cut American reference. reference. Oh, really? Yeah. Why did I watch so much Mr. Ed as a child? You're a weird
Starting point is 00:24:36 kin. Look at that fabulous horse. Um, oh my God, how did that song go? Oh, no, of course, of course. And da da da da da da, da, uh, Mr. Ed. I mean, I got most of it. Uh, welcome back, listener. Hello, listener. We're back back again. Now it is time. To talk about which superstition place crazy superstition the bunker running down the wall
Starting point is 00:25:05 can you believe that Missy Higgins made her fortune from that song Superstition Yeah So cool Okay so What are you talking about
Starting point is 00:25:19 Superstition Yeah She wrote that Yeah What's your favourite Okay So I don't Okay
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's probably a good time to say that I'm an atheist. Yeah. I don't believe in God. Yeah. I don't believe. You don't have to believe in God to have a superstition. No, but I think that a superstition is funny because it does have the same kind of look and feel as faith.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Because it's believing in something supernatural. And I love and treasure my superstitions because they like, it's such a way. weird behavior. I think it's such a fabulous thing. I think superstitions are more interesting than faith in a little ways. Completely agree. Because no one ever enforces them. Like, and you really pick them up as a child just by seeing other people do them. True. Imagine if we went to war because someone walked under a ladder. Right, exactly. Okay, so the ones that I participate in is I always, if I spill salt, throw it over the left shoulder.
Starting point is 00:26:28 That's one of my superstitions. Wait, what do you mean? If you spill salt, it's bad luck. You have to throw it over your left shoulder to get rid of the bad luck. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's why everything's been going this way for you for so long. That's an old one. That one has been considered unlucky for about 5,500 years of praying.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Really? 5,500 years. Wow. Walking under a ladder, I do. actually yeah definitely that's one that freaks me out um breaking mirrors which i've done quite a bit of the sure um how many years bad sex are you up to well exactly bad sex yeah that's what happens when you break a mirror yeah what you get seven years bad sex bad luck no it's bad sex I think I mean that's what's happened to me wait what um I was told that peacock feathers inside is bad luck
Starting point is 00:27:26 Can I try and maintain that? True. Bad juju. Why is that? I don't know. I don't know. And then my number one one is that when someone says something that's tempting the evil eye or bad luck, I knock on wood. That's a huge one.
Starting point is 00:27:42 You got a knock. Home wood. Oh, baby. Yeah. This is a musical episode. Yeah. Kali Binau did so well. That was Missy Higgins.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Oh, so? You're right. I don't want to lose you This could be Anyway Anyway I like those like thunder. Wait, wait, I can't remember
Starting point is 00:28:21 I can't remember any superstitions that I have Crazy superstitions. What about? I do think I've remembered one. Yeah. Holding your breath when you drive past a cemetery. Do you do that one? I religiously did that as a child.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Really? Yes. And then I think I really... Because the spirits would get in. Yeah. Yeah. And we would drive past, like we had to drive past a cemetery, the Rai Cemetery, to go to Polarii's restaurant, but also just to get to my house.
Starting point is 00:28:53 So I used to hold my breath all the time. Oh, my God. And then I probably only actually stopped when I moved to that place in Carlton because I lived opposite of cemetery for 11 years. Yeah, you would never stop letting me experience. Yeah, the Melbourne cemetery is really big. So when you drive around that, you'd pass out if you held your breath the whole way around. Did you see that diver who holds his breath for 29 minutes last week?
Starting point is 00:29:15 So Gawnee Weaver. Yes. Yeah. She can actually do it all. She can do it all. Including knowing when to say no to the alien franchise. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Although That's how it worked I feel like That's what happened That's how it worked Um Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:32 You know what You're right That's a good one I mean I remember a bus driver On the way to school camp Camp Rambug Was like
Starting point is 00:29:39 Um You guys You know Coming up on your left We're going to be Passing a tree That takes five minutes To walk around
Starting point is 00:29:47 And we were like Wow Five minutes That's a long time To get around The base of a tree And then he was like It's a cemetery.
Starting point is 00:29:58 And, oh, God, that stuck with me. I... For years. Hey, man. You hate bus drivers? Yeah. No, that's great. I love, love bus drivers.
Starting point is 00:30:10 No. What a weird, unique genre of man. Some superstitions. Yeah. Oh, what about not opening an umbrella inside? Oh, Mama. I never do that. That freaks me out, but I have done it.
Starting point is 00:30:22 When I do it, I'm like, it was, I didn't. Open it all the way. Yeah. What about not looking at yourself in the darkness? Sorry. Like not looking at yourself in a mirror in the dark. What? Yeah, it's considered, well, I mean, because there's like a whole thing, like, you might see something.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Shit. Yeah. I don't think that's real one. What a scary thought. That makes it go insane. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I don't like that. Yeah. A gaze into the nethers. Okay. Oh, step on a crack. lucky ones like good luck don't say good luck
Starting point is 00:30:59 like fall of clovers and stuff I don't say good luck oh yeah do you say break a leg uh no say chookas chookas bitch no good luck no good luck backstage um
Starting point is 00:31:10 the scottish play that's a pretty big one and I don't think that I've ever broken that one Scottish play like in the theatre you're never meant to say Macbeth you never meant to say Macbeth
Starting point is 00:31:22 inside of a theatre is considered bad luck What if you were in the play, Macbeth? You say we're doing the Scottish play. Yeah, but what if, don't they call Macbeth by her name? By her name. Played by Missy Higgins. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:36 In the movie, in the film, I mean, in the show. They say Macbeth in the show? In the play? What is it called? They do. The musical. Yeah, doesn't they say the word Macbeth in that play? If it's in your script, it's a laugh.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yeah, just not around, like you don't say, We're doing the play. Can't wait until they start the play. The Scottish play. Anyway, Matt, what did you have for good luck? Well, there's just some good luck ones as well. Do you believe in those? What are the good luck ones? Or like finding a four-leaf clover or a lucky penny.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I've never found a four-leaf clover. I feel like... I do, if I see a penny, I'll pick it up. And then all day I'll have good luck. It's not many pennies in Australia. No. Um, something I don't like is, um, you're good at the ones you don't like. The 13th.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Friday the 13th. There's lots of those. Like a lot. It happens all the time. I love, I love like Halloween and you're like, it's just a regular day, but I love that you're like, it's spooky today for no reason. Yeah, but that's Halloween, which makes sense. Yeah, but like the 13th.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Can't we have more Halloween? I mean, yes, but it just happens. I like to be spooked. Well, yeah, of course. so delanful. I love to think the day had an eerie energy. It's rad of everybody. Spook or other?
Starting point is 00:32:58 I don't know. I just feel like the 13 of it all. Also, I don't get it. Is 13 lucky or unlucky? It's unlucky. Unlucky. But then, is that true? Is any of it?
Starting point is 00:33:09 Oh. You know? Yeah. Matt, what are your superstitions? What do you hold to? I do a bit of knock on wood. A bare knock on wood. Don.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Um, I don't know. Don't flip over a cooked fish. What? I'm sorry. I'm reading some on a website. The horseshoe thing, which, actually, I used to walk past a house that had a upside down horseshoe on the wall. Wow. And I always wanted to write them a letter and say, you should spin that around.
Starting point is 00:33:44 So it catches the luck. Doesn't let it out. That's true, because it's meant to be a vessel for luck. Yes. God, I love that. Mm. That's good. What about a black cat crossing your path?
Starting point is 00:33:55 Well, I grew up with two black cats, so we couldn't possibly. I couldn't adhere to that one. Although, when I have been out walking at night, sometimes I'll see a black cat, and I will stop for a second until it passes. Because I'm like, I don't know that cat. I don't know what kind of bad juju do you do that. Because you've seen all the skin walker stuff. Skinwalker.
Starting point is 00:34:13 You know, like on the internet, we're like on the Reddit sort of thing. Like it's kind of a creepy pastor. this thing of like animals that are actually like creatures disguised as animals and they'll be behaving like in sentient weird human ways like dogs walk in their hind legs oh and people are like that's a skin walker oh yes it's yes yeah um creepy animals walking on their hind legs wow yeah so scary yeah oh except for that labrador that does that dance do you know that video where it's like doing the little chacha yes do you know what i'm talking about yeah That dog, give that dog an Emmy.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Give her a raise. Yes. I love that. Can we put that dog in the bunker? Yeah, she's in. Yes, yes. And she's been fed to the Meg. No.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Just about now. Walks down the planko show. Don't dance that way. That's where the men are. Dancing through life. Skiving the same. I love that dog. Well, you loved that dog, darling.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And I believe in the bird poop. Oh, good luck on the head, yeah. Wait, do you have any, are there any musician ones that have good or bad luck? No, I don't think so. No? What that I know of? None that, like, you know, getting electrocutta on stage, don't do this. Don't play a G-sharp straight after an A-sharp.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah, there you go. That's got to be a thing. don't put it in the f-hole Oh my God, there was a woman at Bingo the other night And I was asking like a trivia question About how many keys does a piano have And I was like this woman had like long silver hair And glasses and like a kind of shruggy cardigan
Starting point is 00:36:05 And she was like in her like 50s or 60s And I was like you're going to love this question Because you're obviously a piano teacher And then everyone at the table looked at her and they're like She is a piano teacher And I was like that is the best thing when that happens I think
Starting point is 00:36:21 profiling yes that's the best thing when that happens couldn't agree more yeah what about this is the tritone
Starting point is 00:36:31 what's the tritone I just remembered that one the tritone is like that it's a tone that in the I don't know the middle ages something
Starting point is 00:36:41 when they were writing classical music they never put the tritone in because it sounds very dissonant I think is it the start
Starting point is 00:36:48 of the Simpsons Same. So anyway, they thought that that was the devil's tone. Let the devil in. Yeah. So when we were doing that at uni, we had to write music in this style. And if you had a tritone in yours, you would fail pretty much. That's great.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I love that. Immediate failure. You let the devil in. The devil is here. Yeah. The devil made you fail. What was the thing that was like one that was like when you're lighting a cigarette, it's bad luck to light yours first?
Starting point is 00:37:19 Is it? That was the thing that came about, I think, from World War II, where the men in the trenches would light their cigarettes and, I don't know, that would give them away to the enemy. So then they'd like their friend's person and then they'd get shot. They get shot, yeah. Jesus. Something like that. Sad.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Oh, my God. And people, like, flick the packet of cigarettes to find the lucky one. And then, like, flip that one upside down. and smoke the lucky one last. Oh, people do do that. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you do?
Starting point is 00:37:56 Do you know what's crazy? Over the, like, the remaining few smokers that I do know, every single one of them pretty much has gone completely off legally bought cigarettes. And it's just going to the chop shop now. Like, the illegal cigarette trade in Australia has gone mental. Like there's no one And vapes too Yeah I just haven't seen any of the olive packaging
Starting point is 00:38:25 They've now priced it up so high That even just like regular Shmegular degular Like not looking for a bargain folk Are now going on to the like What is it Winchester or whatever Like these like off brand like cigarettes That are like plain pack like regular packaging cigarettes
Starting point is 00:38:42 It's crazy Wait did it like sold illegally? Yeah Like at like a tobacco baconist or whatever you'll walk in and be like do you have any yeah the dodgy milk bars yeah do you have anything else is that real what you can go into a shop and buy things that they're not allowed to sell 100% baby yes what do you mean though like vapes and cigarettes yeah but like how does the shop keep know that you're not like they don't but like it's not really there's not been a massive massive
Starting point is 00:39:14 crackdown so like occasionally people do get busted and find a shit ton of money but like by and large it's quite a lucrative but like I think they do get a bit cagey when someone seems a bit off but generally gotta be the regular yeah they've got to know you is it true that police can't um what's it called pretend that they're not police
Starting point is 00:39:36 yeah like you can't if you ask them that's not true if you ask them are they a cop you're not allowed to kiss you as well so if you try and kiss them that's the cop Kiss the cop That's one way that you can find out for sure
Starting point is 00:39:53 They're not allowed to kiss you Can I have a pack of camel Camels or whatever And they're like Sure But first can I steal a kiss from you And then they go Put your hands up
Starting point is 00:40:08 I'm not allowed to kiss you All I want You must not be a sane normal person You must be a police officer Yes It's a good test I don't think it works. Kiss everyone.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I see. Well, I think that's a pretty good superstition. Kiss a cop. Asking an officer for a kiss. That's just a test. Yeah, slightly different. Ugh. What about saying, bless you after someone sneezes?
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yes. So that their soul doesn't escape. That's true. I'm big on a gazuntite. Gozuntite. And God bless you. God bless. I love whipping that one out.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I think it's funny. God. God bless you. Yeah, that is good. It's very religious, though. Yeah. But what a weird thing to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Let the devil in. Let the devil play. Yeah. What's that monster video? Bottoms up and the devil laughs. Is that a superstition? Is it that Monster Energy drinks are produced by Satan? I think that's a conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Ah, you missed your chance. Sorry, dear. Sorry. Yeah, I think that's good. Never trap a live owl in your house. That's a good one. Don't kill your dog on a Wednesday. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:37 If we just started making up some new ones. Yeah. Bunker-themed conspiracy. Don't know if you should carve your ham with a butter knife. What about a bunker-themed one? don't core an avocado with a butter knife another one for there yeah
Starting point is 00:41:53 don't defrost a freezer never put your left arm in the t-shirt first never come in a hole socket huh yeah that's good yeah huh yeah
Starting point is 00:42:10 I'm trying to think like there's got it like there are things that I find like because superstitious stuff is normally where you like it's things that scare you just a little bit that are just a little bit eerie like okay number one um bed placement in a room oh yes like I definitely have some
Starting point is 00:42:28 superstitions around like having your um well actually I think I might have broken this one now oopsie but like technically when I put my bed facing the door if you have your feet facing the door I think it's literally if they're like a direct line so I might just
Starting point is 00:42:46 get out on a technicality. Yeah. But it's meant to be bad luck. Because it means that like when the gurney comes to take you, it goes straight out. The gurney. Room for one more in an elevator? I don't know. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:43:01 Like if someone's like, there's room for one more, don't get in that elevator. Oh. Do you know in China, though, they don't have the, what is it, the 13th floor? In lots of buildings? Yes. But that's one of those 13th thing. Yeah, it's number four in China. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Because the word sounds like death. Oh, yep. The way they pronounce four also sounds like death. 14th and the 24th. And, yeah, anything with four. Yeah. But I remember when we were staying in China going to this hotel and we were on this like, it was like this really beautifully like appointed like hotel.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And then we were like trying to. get to the the quote like trying to find out what was going on on these floors that we couldn't get to um which don't exist so whatever but got out at the like 13th floor somehow and then there was just like a single room and it had like a tiny door that went into it like a really slow squat door and then just a chair and nothing else that's scary and there was no lights on it was very scary i hope we didn't look in a mirror well that's it mirrors are um the home of superstition yeah yeah um i like the fine line between superstition sometimes and like just culture um like in cultural taboos and stuff like how if you've eaten a meal with chopsticks
Starting point is 00:44:37 you should rest them and not leave them in the bowl kind of like standing up uh-huh because it's quite rude. Culturally, because it resembles, like, incense at a grave and that kind of thing. Oh, I didn't know that? Yeah. Oh. Heathen. But that's not like a superstition.
Starting point is 00:44:53 That's just, like, culture. Yeah. That's fun. Yeah. Those kind of things are like. Maybe we should just put, like, a black cat in the bunker. No. Oh.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Not at all that. Did you see that animated film, Flo with the cat? Flo. No. You should watch that tonight. It's good. it's fun it's got a black cat in it so cute um no but like i think the horseshoes more compelling to me than a black cat just another meal for the meg really at this point
Starting point is 00:45:25 only if it's been on screen so we could just put in an unpopular black cat ugly black cat he'll never be famous okay um or a horseshoes quite good or like a big hunker wood would to knock on because knock on wood is the one that i really do keep but you know what i find with knock on wood is there the the instances where that comes up and you're like knock on wood and then you like look around and there's no wood nearby so you're like you like knock on your forehead your forehead's not made of wood that's the joke though it's like you're like blockhead i hate that you're an old blockhead i don't do that i don't do that i'm an that's a dad joke see like so i don't like that well that's why you need to bring a block of wood
Starting point is 00:46:12 What if you just carried around a small piece of wood, like a little offcut. That's what I came from. That's where it came from, carrying the crucifix. What? Yeah, they're like carrying the little cross, like a wooden cross on you. You'd knock on it like to, you know, order to devil. To try to knock Jesus off. To what?
Starting point is 00:46:33 Get down from there. They crucified him. Knock him down. Help Jesus. Help him off. He's hurting. Yeah. Then no.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I don't want to put. some crucifix fucking piece of wood, knock on wood in my bunker? It doesn't have to be in of crucifix shape. Oh, that's a big old block. Like, what about one of those keys used to go to the bathroom when you go to a truck stop? And they've got a giant slab of wood. Or they've got a spoon attached. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Is that a superstition? Let's put that in. That is so weird. I hate that. Go ahead. Yes, here's the key. Ugh. And then you go in, even though it's locked, it's still disgusting.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah, sometimes something that's protected. People cut copies of those keys and... What? Use those rooms for fun. For fun? Look, how much fun can you have in a bathroom? Matt. Oh, you tell you.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I love that, though, as like a method of anti-theft. Because that's the idea is that, like, you're not going to run off with such a giant key. Where could you hide it? Yeah. How could you ever lose such a big? big thing, but I think it'd be so amazing if at like a retail environment, all the expensive
Starting point is 00:47:48 items just had giant cinder blocks attached by chains and like, oh you'd like that new Britney Spears fantasy perfume. Good like escaping with a boulder attached. Because I hate can I say, listener, I hate when I go into a shop and they just
Starting point is 00:48:07 have those measly little cards that like, like if you want this ink, go to the front counter. I hate that. I'm like, I came to the store to see what was on the shelves to buy the thing. Yeah. What? Ink is expensive though. It's like a currency. It's a scam is what it is.
Starting point is 00:48:24 It's a fucking scam. Evil. They should really like send all those people to prison. Yes. Like Mr. What a brother printer? Yeah. Send brother and his father to the fucking moor. Leave the
Starting point is 00:48:40 squids alone. Hewitt, Puckard. Yeah, whatever his name is. Mr. Sayan. Yes. Oh, God, red is hard to print. The EB games that you go into, they're all empty. Yeah. I hate that.
Starting point is 00:48:56 It's just cards. It's a ghost shop. It's like, oh, let me just get it out of the filing cabinet. Well, why did I pick it up then? Should I pick it up or should I just come straight to you? Yeah, or should I just go online? Because it's like the dummy box thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Oh, it's so very confusing. I don't want to be humiliated. I want to shop. And you're forcing. it bottlenecks the servers. Yes. It's like part of the thing about grabbing the thing is that I don't want to have to go to see you
Starting point is 00:49:20 every time I want something. Yes. Oh, and like retail space, incredibly expensive. Baby, your walls are lined with false advertising. Yeah. That's all fake. It's all fake.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Like, rework the shop. Rework your anti-theft policy. Oh, and those filing cabinets are so gross. Yeah. Why is everything so skinny in there? It's weird. It shouldn't you like that? And I also hate it.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Why do you keep going to ear game? Can you download these games? Yeah, it's a mix. And I hate it on like launch day of a game. When you go in and they've just like opened up the box and they just like have the box there. I'm like, I know everyone's coming in to buy the game today. It just came out. But I don't need to see a giant pile as if I'm one of 20 in the next half hour that we're purchasing.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I don't know. Sims 4 Yes Yeah Like I would like it To be like Oh you've come in for that game
Starting point is 00:50:18 You're so unique Here you go Just for you I don't know To know that Everyone else is coming in For the same thing It's all right
Starting point is 00:50:25 They should just have vending machines Who cares Or like at least Like put a little curtain Around that cardboard box The shame Ugly Yeah
Starting point is 00:50:33 Confessional So much is ugly You know Yeah What are we talking about? I don't know Superstitions Ah, yes, we're putting in keys from a bathroom that have a large piece of wood on them.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Amazing. That's in. Goodbye. Okay. So, did you see that little interview. the child talking to Angelina Jolie, saying, what snacks do you wish you could hide in your outfits? And then she produces a snack. And then he produces a snack. And then he says, would you adopt me? And Angelina Jolie kind of laughs and goes, where are you from? And he says, Canada.
Starting point is 00:51:30 And then she says, where are your grandparents from? And he says, China. Yeah, you haven't seen that? No, but that's great. It's quite good. But I say, that as if I'm mocking Angelina Jolie, but I'm not. What snacks do you wish you could hide in your outfits? She's got a jolly rancher. No. Can I give you one of my favorite snacks? Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Okay. All right. Oh, I love these. Yeah. I will definitely, I'll be eating these during the, during the screen. Will you adopt me? I'm sure you have a great mom and daddy, do you? Yeah, but they're awesome.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Thank you. But you do remind me of my boys. I have two boys from Southeast Asia. Where are you from? What's your family? Toronto. And do you know where your great grandparents were from? China.
Starting point is 00:52:23 China? Very cool. Thank you. Bye. Bye. She is like, bye. Bye. Toronto.
Starting point is 00:52:33 If you're not going to adopt me, I'm going to go. Yeah. She's so cute with kids. Yeah. She's like actually, what a jam. Got charisma. Yes. Yeah, I think Angelina's a, you know, she seems like a bit of a gem.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Mm. I love that she just pulled out that Jolly Ranch is so quick. And then she did a little wink. Yeah. That is so good. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:56 That's not a topic for discussion. What snack would you hide in your outfit? Yeah. Have I ever hit a snack in my outfit? Isn't that the next topic? I've just... Is that why you talked about that? No, did you...
Starting point is 00:53:09 Zelda's just gone with Ghost White. What did you? see in the mirror. Someone just messaged me saying, um, they sent me a post, which I haven't yet opened, but they said, I know you were dragging alien earth, but the xenomorph is fucking hot. I just going to open up this message now to see. No, I did see this. Josh, if you're listening, I did see this. The xenomorph actor is really hot under the mask. Bitch, I could give, look at how hot he is. Houghton and a hole in a house. Hang, and I'm going to send it to, and look at how tall he's as well. I'll send it. I'll send it. Um, what are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:53:45 Why did you say any of these things? Why? Why did you say any of these things? Why would I say anything? Look at how handsome this man is. He's in the Zenmorph suit. He's so tall. I think I've seen this man before. She's so bloody tall. What a perfect segue into our next topic for discussion, which is which of the cast from Ruples Drag Race Season 17 that attended the Emmys, which one of their outfits goes into the bunker. So here we are. After a very like tumultuous time where the internet got really angry by the divas that were represented at the VMAs,
Starting point is 00:54:19 which were Willem, LaGanja, Lexi Love, Simone, who were all performing alongside Sabrina Carpenter in her kind of middling VMA's performance. Is that rude to say? Probably. Well, but I don't know. When Doja Cat really just serves us, it's so hard at the start, it's all downhill from there. But everyone was like, why when the drag race girl is not invited?
Starting point is 00:54:44 And now we discover why, because we saw what they were wearing to the Emmys. Embarrassing. No. Okay, so let's be real. The Emmys, drag race was nominated yet again for the Primetime Emmy Awards for Best Reality Competition Series, and it's become now a new tradition to bring along the entire cast, which is so fabulous because I think the Emmys could use the first. on the red carpet and I think it's fun to like create like you know shift the
Starting point is 00:55:14 overton window of the fashion that we can expect from these kinds of events by having a few fucking wild cards. So all of this to say is I am glad that these people are there even if I have varying opinions about what they wore. And only one of these outfits can get in to the bunker. What do you think? And last year, obviously, the prince wait no princess poppy darkness oh yes wore that uh goblin girl outfit that went absolutely viral
Starting point is 00:55:48 um and so that I think has set a standard and I think as we've learnt from the 2025 Emmys perhaps some people got the wrong message from that experience
Starting point is 00:56:06 Zelda Like, you kick it off. Okay. Miss Piggy. Oh, this is so ugly. Yeah. Famously, that's not what Kermit the Frog looks like. Which is a shame because Kermit the Frog is a puppet and you're holding a puppet and yet it doesn't look right.
Starting point is 00:56:31 You could probably buy a toy at the Henson shop of Kermit and put it in a little tuxedo, and it would look better than this piece of shit. The, like, boudoir robe that Hermona is wearing is stock standard, and then it's weirdly on top of the gown, they do not go together, and then the prosthetic, et cetera, is fine, but she doesn't look like Miss Piggy, she looks bad. I agree. I agree. I mean, I think that she thought that by dressing as Miss Piggy, she would be.
Starting point is 00:57:07 the goblin girl of the party. Correct. And it turns out she wasn't because she was with other drag queens who decided to up the stakes. Yes. The pink nose, though, is very well implemented. It is. But you know what, isn't that new delusion panel across her breast? Disgusting.
Starting point is 00:57:26 You said it. Like, just don't do a plunging neck if you can't actually wear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. Okay, so I want to get to the heart of the issue. because there's three that kind of sit in this category. We have Corey King, who's come dressed with prosthetics on a face as white Michael Jackson. Yeah. And then we have Joella dressed as a Laboooooo.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. Here's the problem I'm having with the state of contemporary drag. Yeah. There is a kind of edge lord meme thing happening where the reference of, And we were talking about this last week as well. A reference is not a joke.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Saying, isn't it just like that is what Family Guy does, but it's not a joke. You haven't crafted anything. You haven't made anything. You're just like, how random is this? And you're like, I agree. That is bizarre. Now what? And Corey King is the number one.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Because I remember seeing her at DragCon UK. And she was dressed as lowest from Family Guy in Drag. drag in like a drag version of that and it was like she looked like her but she also looked like Corey King yeah and I was like that's fun you're kind of evoking this thing and like I was like that's a reference that's cute like you know whatever and then she just kept doing it and it became her whole aesthetic yes and she was like now I'm Shrek and now I'm Susie Toot and now I'm and I was like I don't know that this is funny I think you're just dressing like you know you're just doing like kind of shitty cosplay.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Yeah. And it's like, if you want to do cosplay, go and do cosplay, but like, I don't know. Well, it is why cosplay and drag are two separate art forms and expressions. And I feel like they're, they're bled in. And I don't think the intention is the same as with like a cosplayer because it's like, I think cosplayers are like generally with this like sense of like, how much do we love this thing? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Like how much do I love this thing that I'm going to perfect? re-create it or add my own twist to it. And actually, my favorite type of cosplay is when they do do, like, you know, the Diamante encrusted Stormtrooper or what, like, they add their own, like, twist on it, or they combine two fictional worlds or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, in this specific iteration of drag, I'm like, is this, do you have a meaning? Like, is this just a reference without a meaning?
Starting point is 01:00:02 Yeah. Because it feels like there is no point. And so it's like, yeah, you look like Michael Jackson, but to what end? What is the idea? Yeah. What is your art about? Yeah. And there is like this tendency now on the internet that like you can just be like,
Starting point is 01:00:21 it's not about anything. It's just about making noise and getting attention. Well, yes. And so that feels like the intention of the work, but it's like, why? Mm. And then what? Once you have the attention, then what? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:36 And then if you keep doing that, it just becomes this, like, every time I see you, I'm just going to see, like, what, like, you picking something that you think of as, like, dank. And then just be like, I'm going to do a dank meme and turn myself into a dank meme. And the Lubbubu is just, like, it couldn't be more embarrassing. Like, I'm just like, to what do you mean? Like, to what end? Like, why, like, I mean, you're going to get attention. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:07 If that is the only product you want from your career is attention, then you can have it. But like, not all attention is good attention. Yeah. And just being like, you know that most popular thing on the internet right now? I'm dressed as that now. No one's thinking about you or your artistry. They're just thinking like, what a random thing to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Because when you go into a room and you say, attention, attention. Yeah. it's to get everyone's attention and then deliver a message and here we have examples of attention that's all sorry I just wanted everyone to look at me what the fuck
Starting point is 01:01:49 yeah like what the fuck and like I would love like I could see a world where if you had a kind of thesis about why you addressed as the king of pop the former like most famous celebrity in the world with this kind of controversial visual figure and you came out with that idea or even like it was just so maybe I'm missing
Starting point is 01:02:11 something and listen I'm happy to like sit back and be like told by the Cory King fans like no this is what she meant this is why it's important and like okay I'll reappraise yeah but at the moment it just sits in this category of like yeah why are you dressed like Susie Toot and why are you like what's happening like to what end why it's a haunting haunting image Yes. But that's it. I just think that there's, like, it's a bit shallow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Because not even like, like, I don't know why this makes me think of, um, got Mick doing, um, Paris Hilton on Snatch Game. Right? Like, because this Michael Jackson moment is really like celebrity impersonation, but just without saying anything. Yeah. Um, in this kind of staging. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:02 But it's like that. transformation or like because we see this kind of thing from drag artists all the time right like celebrity impersonation yeah but when you do it and you pull all the attention and then you can deliver something really funny or like imagine if michael jackson attended the emmys in 2025 what would he say and do and da da da da da yeah but like through your funny lens yeah but like i don't know that that's what happened i saw corey king like do a few moves and yeah yeah I don't know yeah I mean that's it like I think it's not you know like I think any time you stumble into this territory of like talking about like what drag is
Starting point is 01:03:45 and what drag isn't like I don't think that that's valid like I think it's like I'm not here to pass what is and isn't drag but it's like it's it's whether I'm like interested in it like, whether it compels me with the power of drag. And I think, like, there is something compelling about just showing up. And, like, this is probably going to who my favorite is. Because, like, I think Alexis Stone, the British Drag Queen, who does these, like, impeccable, like, prosthetics-led impersonations of other people, like, did Mrs. Doubtfire and, like, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And showed up in these kind of, like, iconic pieces of fashion and took these characters and then put them in, like, the world of, like, high-end haute couture fashion. Yes. Is interesting. Like, it's kind of, like, it is creating, like, I don't know, like, a collage of, like, pop culture iconography by having her in, like, a kind of Richard Quinn gown with silver boots and then being Mrs. Doubtfire. It's, like, that's an image. And it's, like, kind of Warholian in that way. Whereas I think just doing like a Halloween costume version of Michael Jackson is like, to what in?
Starting point is 01:05:06 Two what in? Yeah. Anyway. But my favorite, I think, is Lexi Love. Oh, I thought you were going to say, Acacia forgot. I didn't forget it. But, okay, so Lexi Love is like. Wait, are you fucking crazy?
Starting point is 01:05:20 What are you doing about? Okay, so hear my case. Wait, she's wearing clear clackers. She's wearing stripper heels. Yes. Crystal clackers. her body is like pink with like hastily applied glitter yes and the it kind of gives the illusion that she's wearing like a cat suit or something and then she has just a little piece of fabric
Starting point is 01:05:42 that is barely covering one tit and then tied in a bow at her hip and then goes and drapes down in the other direction and I just think like as far as showing up in a way that is drag that a way that is so in your face, like, serving a fantasy of, like, you did not have this kind of person invited to this event. And now they're here, and they're not even editing or changing something that they would wear to the club. Yes. And it's for the Emmys. And there's kind of this thing of, like, this little piece of pink fabric that is tied in a bow is the only way that the only concession I will make to formalizing my look for this high end of prestigious event. And I think that, like, it's pretty chic.
Starting point is 01:06:38 You've raised some very good points. Which, I mean, part to deny it is, and I think that's what Lexi does very well, is she's very, like, self-expressive that way, as in she doesn't compromise. No. It's like, this is the kind of thing she would. wants to do and so she'll do it. It's not, it's also not, like, that, like, obviously she's very scantily, like, dressed, right? So that pulls attention. But this to me isn't attention seeking. No. This is, like, self-expression. Yeah. And, like, it's kind of like,
Starting point is 01:07:13 it is just representing the club, the culture. Like, I mean, obviously, Ariety also looks incredible. The dress is stunning. She's wearing, like, that liquid satin kind of gown that's got all these really interesting little bunched areas, and then she's got this elaborate, incredible wig that is kind of braids turned into this, like, beautiful, what would you call it, like, double infinity symbol? Yeah. Like, and then, like, completely bejeweled and be gemmed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:47 And that is drag excellence. Like, that is how you show up. Yes. And then Susie, too, is just representing, like, a 20s flappery kind of jewell. but you know that's just not familiar um yeah i don't know yeah i think it's lexy love i think that's cool i think that's fabulous i think it is like transgressive in an interesting way um and i think it is like if you're not gonna like if your artist if you're not they're like with a thesis it's like i am the thesis and i think the deaf she represents herself well yeah um
Starting point is 01:08:22 so that you didn't yet mention kelly mantel's outfit Oh, sorry, you're right. Kelly Mantle should just be the winner. Kelly Mantle came in a column dress that is various tones of red. Sin shit the waist with a very large belt. Yes. And a blonde wig with a bang. Bangs.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Incredible. I love it. Very sketched out eyebrows. Okay, so we're putting in the outfit. So we're just putting in a jeweled pink ribbon and thong. And Crystal Gluckers. And Crystal Clackers have made their way in. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 01:08:59 We will be posting these images onto the Instagram. Yes. For your perusal. I like it. I think we've done such a good job of examining them. I also think like nothing ages worse than kind of like winking irony. Well, I feel like LaBou was already done. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Like. I just think there is a fear of being seen liking something or caring about something that I find to be like particularly uninteresting. Like, if your whole identity is, like, based in irony, and you're never like, no, I full throat love this thing, then it's like, okay, well, so what, what do you care about? Like, why is it all, why does it all have to be a joke? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Like, imagine if I liked something or cared about it. Okay. Great. You know, you actually have to put yourself out there to, like, to care about something. Yeah. Yeah. Are you laughing, Matt? What are you laughing at?
Starting point is 01:09:54 Oh, I'm just geekling it. You little giggling girtie? Gigling. Is it because we seem to hate everything? Does Susie Toot look? Is that makeup bad? I mean, obviously, I know the answer is yes. But like, why is that happening?
Starting point is 01:10:07 I can't speak on makeup. Look at that. Like, that's objectively not a great execution. I understand, like, the stylistic choices. She's wearing, like, full white face pain. I just think the execution is poor. But I've seen her do brilliant makeup. I don't like the shapes, but this execution is weird.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Maybe it's just the photo. But also, why does the face not match the rest of the skin tone? Like, again, I know that's probably a stylistic choice, but if it's ugly. Yeah. Lexi, love, or Lexi from Drag Race, as your Instagram is now been retitled. Your outfits in? Welcome to a tree world Welcome back listener
Starting point is 01:11:09 Hello listener Now If you listen to last week's episode You know that we briefly talked about flags And I've been thinking about it a lot since, to be honest But Unrelated, kind of Which color from the rainbow flag
Starting point is 01:11:24 Gets into the bunker? As you know, as I said on television You know, I hate rainbows I hate rainbows But there is a song Which goes like this Red and yellow and pink and green Purple and orange and blue
Starting point is 01:11:47 I've been singing that one a lot With my two year old A rainbow. How does it end? Sing a rainbow. Sing a rainbow too. Sing or see? Well, this is the reason I know.
Starting point is 01:12:00 No, you sing a rainbow. Listen with your eyes. Listen with your ears. Listen with your eyes. And sing everything you see. I said rainbow flag, but I'm just going to reckon that. Pink isn't in the rainbow, is it? Can I say the other day, I was driving out to a gig in full geish,
Starting point is 01:12:18 driving along. And as I got in the car, It was a kind of stormy day, but the sun had broached the clouds. And, or breached, breached the clouds. But it was still raining. And there was the most magnificent rainbow I think I've ever seen in my life. It was so vibrant. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:40 It was so full. I was truly like, it was awe-inspiring. And I was at the end of this road, and I saw these two teenage boys, like 14, 15. and they were coming back from soccer practice or something like that and they were gazing upon this rainbow in rapture like truly it was something just you know the sheer beauty of it was enough to stop everyone in their tracks and they these you know young men
Starting point is 01:13:08 presumably straight were like just completely caught in this rainbow and then they turn around and see a 30 something cross-dresser watching them appreciate it. And they're like, oh. Like I was conjured in that moment. They were surrounded by the band. And I just think it's really funny that the gays have kind of made
Starting point is 01:13:32 like, you know, this incredibly beautiful, real world thing into something so heinous. Like crystals, you know? Yes. It's like everything beautiful in the world has been destroyed by some tacky bitch. Totally. When you looked at that rainbow
Starting point is 01:13:50 Did you think to yourself Which colour of that rainbow Would I put in the bunker? I did Oh We can only have one So yeah I guess there's always like
Starting point is 01:14:00 Been a lot of discussion About what colours appear in a rainbow Because that feel like Very like early primary school Like That's not actually in a rainbow Like a lot of like rainbow gatekeeping I hate that
Starting point is 01:14:14 So we're going to put it on the record here This is in order from shortest to longest wavelength, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violent. Violent. Violence, yeah. Roy G. Biv. Correct. I choose violence.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Yes, every time. God, rainbows are so beautiful. Should we put in in rainbows? radio head? Did you sing that for us? Everything in its right place. I'm not from that album.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Oh. There you go. God. Matt, we need to get you a online subscription to a music system or something because you don't know what you're talking about. If only there's a musical references in this episode have been truly spyingling.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Thank you. Miss Egan's often does that to people. Okay, so we're just going to say it on three. Three, two, one, violet. Yeah, I was going to say that. When I was still looking up, rainbows. Yeah, violet. Like, obviously.
Starting point is 01:15:31 It's so cool. Can I say that I bought some flowers the other day for my house? Oh, for yourself. Yeah. That's bad luck. Is it? I don't know. It's sad
Starting point is 01:15:46 Definitely sad When I The reflection in that Guitar or whatever it is Kind of looks like a woman Sorry To go to your corner This is a very visual episode
Starting point is 01:16:00 I'm sorry this is not I'll send the photo to Instagram And Because we have a florist in my work So like they're just there all the time I couldn't help myself And when I like was trying to select
Starting point is 01:16:16 I picked blue because blue is such a rare flower color aren't they dyed yes that's why because it's so rare that it doesn't exist really there are like very few blue things on the earth
Starting point is 01:16:28 can't even afford blueberries wow well please don't bring Jesus into this or overtime and the gal was like oh this is nice And I was like, yes, can't wait to put them in the house that I live in by myself.
Starting point is 01:16:47 And she said, oh, you're just getting them for yourself. That's such a nice treat. And then I thought that was so nice. And like, every time I look at them, I'm like, I am appreciating it. I'm glad I spent that $15 or whatever. You love yourself, sell, no blue flowers. Yeah. They're so cute.
Starting point is 01:17:04 That being said that, there's no blue in the rainbow. So, violet it is. No, okay. You're right? No, there is blue. Well, sing the song. No, no, no, there's blue in the rainbow. Purple and orange and blue.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Yeah, I said, I said blue. Oh, did you? Yeah. I can't listen. Zelda, I said blue. But I think... Who said shut up. Who said shut up?
Starting point is 01:17:30 The violet, though. Violet, you're turning violet, violet. I love that. Mm. Mm-hmm. I think that we see enough red, orange and yellow in the sky. Yeah, and blue. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:44 I think that's the thing. It's like, we don't need any more blue. We've got the ocean and we've got the sky. Yeah. We see blue all the time in nature. Well, you're just saying that to be contrary to what I just said about how blue never occurs in nature. Well, I was thinking about that and then I was like, except for everywhere all the time. Yeah, but it's an illusion.
Starting point is 01:18:05 There's nothing up there that's actually colored blue. It was a love. It was a perfect idea. And also in the ocean. Should we ask those? There's a lot of blue creatures in the ocean. Deep blue sea. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:17 What color? Genuine question. What color do you think those two boys would have picked? From the rainbow. Yeah. Probably red. I was going to say red. The color of boy blood.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Right. Because I feel like blue is a bit too soft in that circumstance. Yeah. Like if you were looking at that, I feel like they would have said red. Yeah. And then they would have gone, oh! When they turn around and see me going, what color do you think?
Starting point is 01:18:42 Isn't it beautiful, boys? Don't you love it, boys? Get in the cat. Which color would you pick? Mama's going to the gig, you want to come? What a Zupo-duper? I got all those colors. Going to Clayton for a bingo.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Do you guys want to come? You'll be in a soccer practice? Oh, you can call your mums up, and I'll talk to them on the phone. Just make sure it's all right. Oh, come over, darling. Did I have I told the story on the podcast about when someone tried to pick me up When I was walking home from school Oh my god
Starting point is 01:19:20 Okay So when I was like 10 or something I used to walk home from the bus stop Yeah And like my walk home at that time was maybe Seven minutes Like close Lucky
Starting point is 01:19:37 Like that's a short walk This is a story about lucky Wait, you're in the bus at 10? Yeah. That's a cold and unfeeling world, man. And so, walking home, this is before I was jerking off with those straight boys in the bushes. Well, they were going behind the lady bush. But, um...
Starting point is 01:19:59 Hello boys. Is that a reflection of a lady? Is that a bad in? It's kind of... I'm going to... Oh, you're not going to be able to see it. It doesn't matter. Anyway, so I'm...
Starting point is 01:20:10 I'm walking home and then this guy pulls up, not in like a van, but in like a van, like maybe like somewhere between like a Udn and a van. Yeah. Is that an SUV? No, no, no. He came up in a car. It was the 80s. Who knows what I mean.
Starting point is 01:20:27 What in the 80s? No, by then it was probably the 70s. Okay. And he's like, hey, like he came up, like slowed down. Also, I was like like child. child. I was still tall, but I was still like, primary school. Maybe I was 12. Who knows? And winds down the window and, like, calls through the car like, hey, what are you doing? I'm just walking home. I just came back from the jerk off booze. And he's like, do you, like, live
Starting point is 01:21:05 nearby? Oh. And I was like, yeah. Um, and, and, um, and, um, and, um, and, um, and, um, and, um, and, um, he's like, do you need a lift home? He's like, I've been working in the area because it was like a... That is so chilling. Yes, it was the van was like a water company van, like someone who goes around and like reads water meters. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:27 He's like, he's like, job. And he was like, I've been working in the area. Do you need to lift home? And I thought to myself, what did they say to do when someone asks you if you need to live? Yeah. And I was like, no, thank you. Thank you. Like, no. And he was like, oh, well, are you sure? Like, yeah, no, I just
Starting point is 01:21:46 back off, faggot. No, I was like, no. And then I kept walking and then he didn't move. And then he drove up again and stopped and was like, like, I can just take you. If it's just around the corner, I'll just take you around. It's like, no. And then he like, um, like drove behind me for maybe like a minute or two. Holy shit. And then finally like, I don't know, I don't know where he went after that. I can't really remember. But like drove off essentially.
Starting point is 01:22:24 But I just remember him driving like very slowly. Like in between the times where he would stop and try to talk to me again. And then like when he actually drove off, it wasn't like, all right, well, I give up. I'm driving off. It was like, I'm going to go and see if I can find somewhere to watch you or whatever. And then I got home. And, like, my, my mom was there and I got in and I was like, so, a funny thing just happened, da, da, da, and she was like, what the actual fuck?
Starting point is 01:22:51 And I was like, no, no, like, it's, it was funny. And then we went straight to the police station. Yeah. Had to, like, do a full statement and everything. And then. God, you would have been so freaked out. It was so, like, I didn't understand what was happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Like, it's like now you're not. understand completely. Yes. At the time, it's like, oh, that's pretty... Which in hindsight is probably quite a kind thing, because, like, I wasn't the concerned one. Yeah. Like, I didn't fully understand how potentially devastating that entire interaction could
Starting point is 01:23:30 have been. But instead, I was like, wasn't that big of a deal. It just offered me a lift, but I knew it was creepy or whatever. God damn. But I didn't understand why. um and then like we never had to go to court or anything but i do remember getting the update that he like like that they figured out because i knew like the water company because the car was like labeled that they like figured out who it was or whatever oh my god but um like never really
Starting point is 01:23:57 knew anything since like beyond that oh yeah so um if he had have pulled up and asked me which color from the rainbow, I would choose. Yeah. In that moment, I probably would have said green. Yeah. So maybe green in honor of that child. No, violet's too funny. Well, it's going to be violet.
Starting point is 01:24:23 God, I mean, that's the thing. I do think, like, sometimes we live in a world that's very overwrought for, like, there's, like, you hear things about super intense parents, and you're like, diva, what? what do you mean like your kids can't go outside or like I've seen a lot of stuff online where like parents won't let their kids go and like have slumber parties and I'm like Jesus childhood has changed yeah yeah but you do hear stuff like that and you're like how could you not be terrified all the time but it's like well what choice do you have because like my mom was like stay at home mom or whatever like she did all the bookwork for my dad's business but like
Starting point is 01:25:00 so she's not like she's you know stay at home mom feels derogatory that's not what I mean like but um it's not drug at home you know she ran the house called a stay at home mother no yeah um but so like she was home she could have picked my brother or not eye up from school every day or whatever yeah but like no she's like running the fucking house yeah so like also it's i mean like i think it's really good for kids to learn that yes it's a good thing like it wasn't like when we were five we'd walk home but once we got to a certain age it was like it's a very where was your brother um this is why i think maybe it was when i was in year six not year seven because he like we weren't together right so but we also only had one overlap year in high
Starting point is 01:25:47 school because of the campuses so blah blah blah but no i was solo um but i think that's a really good thing but then as you say it's like well what do you do like yeah and you can't control everything and also i walked home from school for probably 10 years is, and it only ever happened once, you know, but... Scary. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Ugh. Perish the thought. Okay, well, what a riveting week. We've brought it all back. So this week, getting into the bunker, we have Lexi Love's Emmy outfit, just a little bow and a G-string and some crystal clackers. Yes. We have the color violet.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Mm-hmm. And the superstition of a A large piece of wood that you could knock off There's also the key to the bathroom at the gas station Yes So if you'd rather think of it, listener, as not some weird Christian fucking tapping on the crucifix thing, rest assured Everything's some Christian something
Starting point is 01:26:55 That's true Yeah Okay What? Yeah Yeah, and we'll see you all in hell Oh What?
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