Death To Everyone - Death To... The Immaculate Selection & Katy's Boyfriends

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

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Especially you Especially you And you Especially you Hello and you Hello and welcome to death to everyone The Medea's nominated Outstanding Contribution to Media

Podcast Do you know Medea killed her children To punish her husband Oh, that's good Yeah You know. Good for her. She got the divorce and she didn't have to take care of those little fuckers.

Unless she did if she had a good reason. What? To punish your husband. Of course. Vengeance. Why? She created them. I brought you into the world.

They can take you right back out of it. Out of it. How is your campaign season? Oh. You're doing the talk show circuit. You're doing the Vanity Fair round table. Yes. Yes.

You had your one-on-one with Leo de Cap. Yes. I was between two ferns. You're up to date. References to the pop culture landscape. Yeah. I've done it all. I even ate those hot wings. You went on Parkinson last night.

Correct. Excuse me. How good. Listener, if you haven't already, please cast us a vote, won't you? Cast us a vote. My name's Zelda Moon. And I'm lazy Suzanne. And who's that behind the...

Toot-Doot! Space car driver Matt, the producer of the show. Hello? Toot-toot. Matt might be a little bit seduced and somber because he has had a giant needle rammed into a nerve in the neck. Yeah. Like four inches deep into the neck. Yeah.

Matt's been penetrated. Four inches. A thin needle. Matt, where did they put a needle? Why did they put a needle? And how does it feel post-needling? I feel great. I got...

Yeah, were you starting with the last question? I don't know what we're doing it. What was it? Who did a needle? Where did they put a needle? Where did they put a needle? put it. They put it just, just to the right and left side of my voice box. Oh my God. Okay. Around my thyroid. And they had to push past several things. Yep. They went through it,

past everything. So it's your neck? Yes. Yes, I got a stellet ganglion block. It's an experimental, not experimental, but it's a procedure that's provided some people relief with chronic fatigue and chronic pain, which I have. And they inject like a steroid and an anesthetic onto the nerve endings. Yeah. That cause you issues in your head? Yeah. I mean, it's just into your sympathetic nervous system.

That explains why you've been so cruel this morning. Yes. I have no sympathy anymore. It'd been numb. Yeah, I've been numb to all the horrible things that you say. Oh. No, your sympathetic nervous system controls all of your autonomic functions in your body.

And it also is in charge you of your fight or flight response. Oh. So wait, if we like have a car that's driving towards you at speed, will you not know to get a little way now? I am like, God, no, it's steel now. I could play a game of chicken with you driving at me at speed. Oh, sorry. That is not where our minds are going.

Yeah, sorry, we don't call it that. Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Never mind. Yeah. You've all seen those college videos. Yeah. What is it? College. I have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah.

Yeah. Fraternity X. Yes. Yeah. Is this some sort of reference? You never play chicken? Yeah. Well, look, I can play chicken all day if you want.

And how deep did that thing go down your road? Very deep. Yeah, so you're ready for this game of chicken, I fear. Yep. There's one of those videos of that old college X, where one of the guys is clearly, like, having an awakening. Yeah. And is erect the entire time you're playing chicken.

Oh, yeah. That was a very formative moment for me, putting on. The body does not lie. Well, you haven't had the numbing needle. Yes, true. Yeah. I wish I could have a numbing needle. It's like a lobotomy.

Yeah. Yeah. Like a lobotomy. Get that hook, heat it up, put it up my nose, swell it around. No more chronic fatigue. Scramble. No more anything. God.

Yeah. I'm just blissfully numb now. I do love like lobotomy in cinema. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's pretty freaky. It is. Yeah.

I think the thing about people's personalities changes. I've been like so like I will see a video of Amanda Bynes or I'll see a video of Britney Spears. And then I will like just go to Google and be like, what is wrong? with them. Yeah. And it's like I know. Abused. I know the answer.

I know. But it is like a fundamental thing has changed about their speech, the way that they move. Their entire like they speak slower. They have really bizarre cadence. And then like the things that they talk about are really intense and bizarre. And it is just the effects of complex PTSD from just the. And, like, I mean, I think in the case of both of them, also medications that, um, and mood altering that, yeah, mood altering and have like an entire effect on the way your brain works.

But it is just wild to me that you could have one whole personality. Like, you know, like we both do right now have personalities. Matt, you're a little on the fence, but. It'll come back. Now I've had this procedure. Yeah. Boy, they actually have been treating people for PTSD. with this procedure as well.

Right. So some people have complex PTSD and I've joined some forums where they said that they've had this this block, this nerve block, and then they, it releases like all sorts of emotions, memories come flooding back. Yeah, wow.

It doesn't happen for everyone. It's not like, you know, guaranteed success across every sort of different case. Yeah. But I think people who's sympathetic nervous system get stuck either from like, like a post-COVID, like, long COVID or like from trauma, um, then it can be really helpful.

Well, the body doesn't lie as I've recently heard. Well, yeah. It's really, I think it's crazy how like there's more and more things that are like, they've come across to hack your body, like to medication. Yeah, it's just like so, it's getting so complex now the way that they can bypass things. It was, uh, gosh, what was I? Oh, God. Someone was talking about it recently, probably on TikTok. But just someone was talking about the kind of genetic effects of like if, you know,

they say there were genetic effects that have gone down the line for the ancestors of slaves that are like, if you, there are like ways in which your genes are altered by living through like intense starvation periods. And like these kind of moments that can like have knock on effects for your ancestors. Which I just think is like wild how much that like, yeah, these things stay inside of us. Yeah. Like a genetic level. Can you tell you a quick story? Go on.

You know that I can't do a quick story. They're long and boring. Long, arduous and outstanding. Yes. I, fuck, we haven't even started yet. I called my brother yesterday because I was like, I had this vision, this vivid memory, and I just wanted to make sure that it did happen

and that he was across it as well. There was a time. My grandma, like my mom's mom, moved down to the potential to be closer to us in her retirement, and as she was dying of cancer, It was like, might as well come and be closer and all that stuff. And across that period, like she lived maybe like a 10 minute drive away, which was great. And she bought a dog.

So she had a dog. We had our dog. And sometimes, I don't know, depending on what was going on, we'd have both. She'd have both, whatever. And then there was this one day where she also lived just off. Melbourne Road, if you're from the peninsula, you know what I'm talking about. But it's like a busy road through Rosebud. Important factor, because she was like right on it.

She was on one of the avenues. She lived on a busy road? Now, what was the name of it, Road? Well, she lived on the corner of Third Avenue. Anyway. Doxing your dead grandmother. It's fine. And so we get it?

Mom gets a call one afternoon. The dogs have gotten out. Who let the dogs out? Who? Ho! Ho! Ho! Ho! Ho! Ho! I don't understand what that's necessary. Oh!

And so it was like, fuck. She's like a frail woman. She can't be rounding up the dogs. Isn't that what they do? What? The frail women. No. Chase dogs.

No. Anyway, go out. Not this one. Anyway. Frail women championships. So it was like, you have to come over. Like, can you come over and help me find the dogs? Yeah.

So then I have this fiffed memory of us in the car. It was like an emergency, like my dad, mom, and then my brother all get in the car to go. It was like emergency. To Rosebud to like try to find the dogs and bring them back. Yeah. And we're in the car. And mom turns to the back and it's like, boys, I need you to prepare yourselves to see those dogs splattered across the road. because we just don't know what we're about to witness

and they've escaped and I need you to be ready to see that. We pull up to my grandma's house, the dogs have returned to the house of their own, you know, accord. They're just in the house and then we just continue on. It was all completely fine. Like she wasn't just sitting around worried. She was like out there calling, but, you know, like whatever. Anyway, I was thinking.

thinking about it this week. And one I was like, did that happen? Yes, it did. I was like, why would you bring us? Yeah. You could have just left my brother and I at home. Like, my brother's three years older than me, but I reckon I was about eight. Yeah. Like, because she wasn't wrong. Like, we absolutely could have rolled up to them splattered across this busy road. Um, but like, what a strange thing. Now, shall do volunteer. If I was a Therapist. Yeah. Which I'm not.

And thank God. Good disclaimer. Do you think that these kind of early experiences as a young person living in the world? Yeah. From a kind of person that you look to for guidance and often for understanding of how the world is working because they're the authority in your life. Yeah. Having them operate in such a heightened way. Yeah.

Might have attributed to a general sense of anxiety you carry with you in your day-to-day life. just generally. What do you mean? Like, you know, catastrophizing everyday instances where suddenly everything's going wrong and nothing's ever going to be good again. Well, that doesn't sound like me at all. And preparing yourself to see someone splattered across the road

when that possibility could exist, but then again, so could any possibility. Your grandmother could also be dead by the time we get there from the shot of having lost these dogs. And don't forget, this car is going 80 kilometers an hour down Melbourne road. We could get into a car accident and die. In fact,

any matter of things. And that's why I couldn't leave you at home with your brother. He could be evil and try and kill you with a knife. The house could burn down. You're so right, sister. And do you think perhaps there needs to be a needle going into your neck? Do it need to tie me to such? To get your fight and flight? Because Matt, the main contention here is your body is stuck in a sense of heightened fight or flight?

I think so. I think, yeah, I mean, I've been dealing with this sort of chronic condition for about maybe eight years now. And at its peak, I was like bed bound, waking up like sweats in the night, anxious thoughts all night long, couldn't fall asleep. There's lots of like really annoying and minor. not minor, but like really annoying symptoms that come with like this kind of condition. And, yeah, I think I've just been trying so many different things.

And I guess what I've been finding the last few years is that working on like my nervous system and bringing the things down in a way, you know, like that through all sorts of different treatments. seems to be the only thing that's really effective. Because your body needs to be resting to heal itself, you know, and if it's unable to rest, like, there's not much you can do. It can't make energy, can't repair cells, can't get rid of viruses, whatever. Well, that's it.

They say a lack of sleep is tantam out to pack a day smoking. Personally, I do both. Just to make sure all the bases are covered. Absolutely. I can't live in this world. But yeah, you were saying at lunch that you're, you know, like part of getting over the effects of chronic fatigue is to not invite stress into your life at which point perhaps if I'm not a therapist.

But you're about to have your second child under three. And you do a podcast with two of the most neurotic and abusive women working in show business today. Nominated for an award. Yes. And the award, or that. Unfortunately, you cannot digest the award

and turn it into some kind of salve for your three years of service. And then, of course, you also teach children, not the most chill thing. And then you're in a band. Yeah. Yeah, but I think I've cut out a lot of, like,

people in my life. No, seriously, I've definitely cut out a lot of people in my life that used to cause me a lot of stress. I'm just too old. for that now. I'm just worried that these are the people who didn't cut out. You guys are beautiful. And also you play violin on top of all of that. The most stressful instrument known to man. Screeching next to my ear. Right? Maybe that's it. Your body's in fight or flight

because you're listening to... Yeah. Yeah. I just bought my daughter, my three-year-old daughter. A tiny violin. A tiny violin for her birthday. It's so cute. And that activates the stress response. Trust me. Do you think she's going to learn violin? She's already learning. I've I've given her one hour lessons every day. Play it again. Is she any good? She thinks she's great, yeah. Oh, that's so cute.

She's being like seeing twinkle twinkle at the top of her lungs, like while she's just bowing across these screeching strings. And she thinks like that she performed twinkle twinkle. Well, she did in a way. She did. Let's not let the little one off. It was a very experimental sound. That's pretty cute.

Oh, well. So made of host hair for a child. Yeah. That's cool. This isn't some kind of Fisher Price shitty. No, no. Plastic one. Yeah.

It's a real violin. It's just a little three-year-old size, which is very cute. It's so cute. Yeah. Yeah, no, but I think other, yeah, nothing's too stressful now in my life, which is good. I think, like, yeah, having kids is definitely tiring. but I don't think it's like stress inducing. Like, I think that it's actually quite fun.

Yeah. The adults stress me out more than kids do. They have so many opinions. Yeah. And when I used to work in events, that was the height of my chronic fatigue as well. Because running an event, there are so many things that can go wrong.

I think people that run events and do events, they get used to and excited by like that feeling of like umpredictability cortisol running through your veins and keeping you at this really heightened state because everything else feels a bit grey without it but like dealing with promoters and people who work in the music industry as well

like in the lead up to events those people not no offence if you're one of them out there but um they're tricky to deal with um and I was one of the That's true. I was tricky too. I'm just saying that like I, yeah, mom wasn't like keen to invite that into my life anymore,

that sense of chaos. I could never, I mean, organizing events, like I can handle myself. Yeah. And I can be part of an event. Yeah.

I don't think I can orchestrate an event. The entire thing is, I think that's a very incredible group of people that can do that. Who like keep all the plates spinning. And then if they're able to. And so much at stake. Like especially for like high, high ticket price events.

Yeah, I think I also like, yeah, definitely carry a lot of that guilt if you're trying to put on events. But then you oftentimes get there and you're like, we literally could have just done nothing and people would be thrilled. Yes.

I think as well, and this doesn't happen at big ticketed events. And music, I think has a lot more criticism facing it. But just generally, when people have paid to come to an event, their brain is now set up to find value because they're like, if I don't get the value out of my money,

then I'm the stooge. I'm the one that's wasted my money. So I need to make sure this is worth it. And the more you invest, you kind of have that sunk cost fallacy of like, well, like, you know, got a babysitter and I got it out for the night. Now I'm here. So it's like it has to be good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so like you're going to see. It really takes you out of the experience, though, that sort of expectation. Yeah. Well, that's why I don't, I mean, as we talked about last week, but concerts to me, like knowing now that they cost, you know, a thousand dollars a ticket to go and see Lady Gaga and a, like, good enough seed. Or like $800 just to be in the room. She could do the best show in the whole world.

But, like, that doesn't affect my ability to be enjoying myself. Yeah, like what does an 800 ticket price event? How could it ever? How could my brain release enough serotonin in that time to make it worth like that experience? Yeah. Like I just don't trust myself with a, like within two hours to have an $800 worth experience.

Yeah. Like I'm like, you have to take some pills. Yeah, I think I'm like, I'm better to just save the money, spend like $180 and get a pill. Yeah. Put on the music really loud at home. Yeah, I'll be seeing lady. Okay, everywhere.

Listener, we've recorded this episode ahead of time, but of course, upon release, our first live event for The Witchie Girls was two days ago. So hopefully we're speaking and would just sound crazy because that event was such a knockout success. I can't believe it. It was so good. So that's your premiere of the first two episodes. Yes. Will they be up available online to listen to now? They will be.

Well, the first one will be? The first one will be up. So you have to go to the screening if you want to want two. Yeah, you get the advanced screening. And you can still go and get tickets immediately to go and see us at Comedy Republic. For the next two. For the next two? Yeah.

And then again, for the finale. Yes. So how funny. So next week, listener, we'll probably talk to the event that we just had. But just so you know, because obviously it seems crazy that this would come out. I can't believe we burnt the Capitol Theater down. And if we actually did, I'm sorry, I didn't actually predict that. Let's do some bets on what will happen.

Oh, okay. I'm, okay, what do I think happened? I think there was a mishap with the screen coming down or going up. Or an awkward moment of like, this is taking forever. Yes, I think that there was an issue with the internet on the square or people weren't able to access the merchant. I stopped for a while. I think that's going to happen.

That's pretty common. Classic, particularly that many people in a room. Square. Yeah. Square related issues. I think that generally everyone had a really fabulous night. Uh-huh. Yeah.

I think there were many witch hacks in the building. Any streakers? Do you reckon there was any streakers? A streaker? Pitch invaders? Maybe. That would be great. Yeah.

Someone gets tackled by security. And also, like, I think. I think we had a really fabulous time going to the after party. Where's the after party? I haven't been invited to this. You definitely have been. Comedy Republic, we were having the after party. It's already over now, but we were definitely celebrating Zelda Moon's birthday and Karen Nicholson's birthday.

It was yesterday. I'm really hoping. We're talking about the past in the future. The past in the future. Manifesting that the giant video cassette and sleeve that I made then get carried through the street of Melbourne to their new location at Comedy Republic as a kind of Italian-style Easter, like, procession. Yeah.

That is what needs to happen. It needs to. I don't want to do that just the two of us. No. I think, yeah, we have to institute it as. How far up is that? So the capital is around the corner. Swanston's case.

And it would be like carrying a, like, medium-sized coffin. Yeah. Like the coffin of a child. Yeah. A little bit bigger than that. Coffin of a teenager. Teenager. Two teenagers died and now we're carrying their bodies.

Yes. They loved film. So the coffins are made like VHSs. And I think if we do it in the right way, it will add a certain eventization to the experience. And help us sell the next two events. Yeah. Everyone walking by.

Oh, what are you doing? I'm also going to be attaching like a standy, splints behind. Yeah. That'll have to unscrew on the night. Maybe around. But, listener, we... During recording today, we received a little gift basket on behalf of my birthday

slash celebrations in general, I suppose. So thank you so very much to, I'll just say, N&T, for such a beautiful gift, we received a whole cavalcade of apple tizer. Apple juice, sparkling. I think it's pronounced apaltiser. Yeah. Sorry? Are you serious?

No. Oh. That's what I used to think it was for a while. Such an apple teaser. Some home-baked chocolate biscuits. Chocolate. Chocolate. Chalk chip biscuits.

Beckies. Some scratchies each. We each got a little scratchy. I won $3. Lazy? I won another ticket. I didn't win anything. That's okay.

I'll give you my one for your birthday. Oh, no. And we each got a voucher. I got a $30 boost juice voucher. I got an additional $30 Betty's Burger voucher to go with my $25 Betty's Burger voucher. Nat? I got a boost as well. Relentlessly generous and extremely cute.

It is so kind that you spent a hundred dollars. Yeah, what the hell? If not more. And then you baked cook edges. But did you see the best part of the gift? What? The basket. Wait a moment.

You say something. I will say something. Something. I don't know what's wrong with you, listener. But I am very excited that you've had such a fabulous time. Wow. life stickers. Oh, this is so up your alley.

Now, we were talking about stickers because we do have Witchie Girls sticker merch. Zelda loves stickers. However... I'm back. They're so cute. And how many of these stickers will you place on something? Okay, so those stickers I will place on my drink bottle,

my work drink bottle that has stickers on it. But I can't use the Witcher Girl stickers because then I won't have the whole set and there's a small amount of them. Whereas that, I'm going to put that sea eagle right on my water bottle. You know what distresses me here is that on the first page, all the wildlife sticker have little titles written below where the die cutting is. It says like Eastern Grey Kangaroo, Bilby, Brush Turkey.

And then you go into the next page and then it's got maybe Western Grey Kangaroo and then no other titles. Yeah. And then by the third page, they've completely given up on the titling at all. And then by the fourth page, yeah, once again nothing. So it's like they just, they started really strong by being like,

yeah, we're going to teach you about wildlife and then it just completely dies. No, but you know what that doesn't do? Take away from the glorious stickers themselves. So cute. So thank you so much.

And they also sent in a speak hurl. Should we? Yeah, let's go into the next category. Oh, no. Well, I don't think it's a category. Oh.

But maybe. Matt, can you play it? because I don't know. Yes. Is this one? Wait, he sent me a message. It was hard to find

appetizer in cute single serve cans, but we got there. Take note for Christmas with the children, please. Oh my God, that's very cute.

Well, you're sick. I like it. So thank you so much. That's so cute. All right, here's their message. Okay.

Hi, lazy Zelda, space car driver, Matt. This is just a short message for Zelda to wish for a very happy birthday. huge year for you, your debut in drag, the witchy girls.

You've got a blue tongue lizard as a cute boyfriend. So yeah, congrats. Now, if I've timed this right, you'll find a little birthday gift at the back door of the studio, including cookies that my boyfriend made you. And if I haven't timed it right, then a possum is potentially tearing it apart right now. All right, thanks. Love the pod. Cute. Isada?

Yes. What's wrong with this man? He loves you. So many things. things that would seem. No, they're so cute. And I'll chat to them all the time. You cannot break the threshold.

No. There is a layer that you maintain your mystique, young lady. Okay, all right. These people need to know only what you present to the word. All right, all right. Did you see what happened to Colleen Ballinger? Yes. Miranda?

She's not singing anymore. Oh, my God. She talked to her fans. Oh, yes. And that was her downfall. No. He's old. Okay. Cute as.

Okay, well, as it's my birthday. Well, it was yesterday. Hague. Excuse me, sorry. I'll destroy the world. Do it. But how to do such a thing. Every day is a holiday when you're the reason to celebrate.

Okay. It's your birthday so you can do what you want. True. I'm going to go what I want. You know what? Why do you throw a big party? You know what? A gigantic woman approaches her down.

Shut up from outer space. And she has with her a thin, thin, lady. Because she's heard that planet Earth has some issues. And perhaps a short little injection could help. but because it's someone's birthday she goes to inject the planet Earth with a thin needle but in celebration of the birthday

it's actually a party balloon and planet Earth has popped oh because the Earth is a balloon yeah and we just live atop us confused correct that's not wrong yeah so happy birthday oh sorry is what she said

oh she was trying to reset our nervous system correct you guys seem really straight Let me just... Do you know the world is more stressed? After the popping? Yeah. No. I mean, do I think the world is more stressed?

And we'll be right back. Welcome back, Listener. Hello, listeners. It's us your two favorite drag queens in outstanding media. It's true as long as you vote for it to be true. Oh yeah, you can go and vote for us. Yes. Don't let the fall of democracy destroy us too.

Okay, now our first topic for discussion today Is Which thing from the Immaculate Selection Goes into the bunker Now What am I talking about? I can hear you saying it right now But you're fools

Because Madonna has a new album coming out Confessions Part 2 And Madonna knows her audience And has infiltrated every faggot on Grindr so that she is popping up as nearby. And you can now, on your grinder profile, adjust your tags to choose from the Immaculate Selection. Oh, my God.

Where you might normally choose something like Hung or BB. Matt, that's bearback. That's when you come in someone without a condom on. Or side. Or maybe gamer. No, no, no. Madonna's not. interested in that. She's interested in

American life? Bedtime stories. Celebration. Confessions, too. Confessions on a dance floor, erotica, lazy? Oh, Evita, hard candy, I'm breathless, Immaculate Collection, like a prayer, like a virgin, Madame X,

Madonna, MDNA, music, ray of light, rebel heart, something to remember. True Blue. Who's that girl? Which? From the Immaculate Selection gets into the bunker. And you can also pre-order your limited edition, Madonna X Grindr Confessions Vinyl.

Confessions the Dance or two vinyl. Yeah. Look at that cover. She looks incredible. The cover is amazing. She's got light being projected on her to make her look like a zebra. Yes. A pink zebra.

She looks like outrageous. So a couple weeks ago, we talked about how this was announced. And then a couple of days. After that, the first, like, not lead single, but just, like, track came out. It's amazing. I've not listened. Oh, my God. I, like, listen to it, and I was like, oh, yeah.

It's called, I feel so free. And it is Kanti. It's just, like, it's very confessions, to no surprise. But it's, like, kind of slow and sexy. And, like, it really sounds like Madonna, as in. like her voice, which shouldn't be a pro, but in these days it is. Oh my God, it's really good. I highly recommend. And what a fabulous interaction, Grinder, is having with Madonna? See, this is the stuff that as a married woman, I'm missing out on. Yes. So I thought I'd bring this to

my sister. Now, all of these are her albums. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. So I suppose if you wanted to dumb it down, listener. Shame on you. Which Madonna album gets into the bunker? No, no, no, no. This is the Immaculate Selection. Thank you. So, well, I think then we need to take that framing as an essential part of it.

Because these are self-identifiers for dating. They are not just albums in and of themselves. They're a way that a gay man can explore, or a queer person can explain themselves to someone they want to fuck. Yes. which I propose. I'm drinking a soy latte. I get a double chate. It goes right through my body,

and you know I'm satisfied. I drive my mini cooper, and I'm feeling super duper. You know, they tell I'm a trooper, and you know I'm satisfied. I do yoga and Pilates. The room is full of hardies. So I'm checking out the bodies,

and you know I'm satisfied. I'm digging on the isotopes. The metaphysics shit is dope. And if all this can give me hope, you know I'm satisfied. I got to drive around. This is everything that gay men say of themselves. This is true. I have regular bowel movements.

Yes. I've got my double. I do yoga. Yes. And I have a car. Yes. So I can come to you. That to me is everything you need to know.

Yes. About someone from the title track of American Life. Yes. Oh, it's good. American life. So you would choose American life? I mean, Evita's... It would be really funny.

Yeah, you... Can't wait to fuck the guy that's got Davida. It's his favorite majority. Don't cry for me, Argentina. I think that's the funniest. Evita's the funniest. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay, so my short list is like, Ray of Light, Confessions and music. Oh, not a bedtime stories. No. You don't like that album? It's like before, pre-ray of light, I'm just not that Madonna literate. Yeah. Post-ray of Light, relatively.

Yeah. I'm like, I'm not an album person. Yeah. Like, I don't really, I'm not really familiar with, even like my favorite artists, I rarely know, like, oh, that's from that album. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I would listen completely out of order and just drip feed it. but the ones that I know are like, yeah,

when you hear the girlies go for like the real Madonna fans, we're like, it's bedtime stories, it's da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, yeah. Matt? Matt?

Yeah, hi. What's your immaculate selection? I don't know. I don't really know Madonna albums that well. I remember I had music. Music. When I was a teenager.

Makes the people. Matt, you're already on. That CD. You're a musician, is that correct? Yeah, so I love music. And presumably by extension, the best-setting female artist of all time, you would surely have an opinion. And she sometimes makes music too.

It's more of a hobby for her. Yeah. She also makes children's books. With the ABBA sample on it. Yeah. That would be from confession. That's from confession. I'll choose that one.

Good choice. That you say I do. I'm hung up. You hung up, that's right. I'm hung up. I think that's probably my favorite Madonna song. I mean, it's so good it's getting a sequel album. But it is five minutes long.

It is. That's crazy. Five fabulous minutes. It's got, well, I mean, yeah. And I think I liked it because it had that violin sample on it, which I think is a very cool violin riff. From Abba, obviously. Zelda, in this image, it looks like you've selected.

erotica and Madonna. No, no, no, no, no. So the two, I've provided three images. The first two are from my experience this morning. The third is from my friend Sam, who moved to London. Because I saw this, immediately screenshot of them, went to WhatsApp to send them to Sam to see that five hours beforehand he had sent me the same thing.

And so those are his selections. it's funny the this is kind of like equivalent and I love that there's a little bonus one there that's not from the Immaculate Selection that's FWB which means friends with benefits

Good work Sam I hope you're having a good time over there That's another album that's coming out Yeah FWB Like it's kind of the queer equivalent Of the YouTube album being loaded onto all our iPhones Right. It's like, Madonna's in your neighborhood now.

You are no longer sides. You are now erotica. Yeah. So funny. Okay, so I think. Ray of Light, I do love Ray of Light. But confessions. These are my confessions.

I'm a dance for. Kind of can't be denied. I'm torn between confessions and music. It makes the people get together. Which one? Yeah. tells your story for fufukin. It's got to be confessions.

Well, then there we have our answer. Yeah. So confessions on the dance floor? I think it should be American life, but I'll take confession. Oh, I'm down for American life. I also love her cowgirl hat phase. Yeah, music. Don't you ever tell me.

Love isn't true. It's just something that we do. That was the Madonna that I first met. And that is love profusion on music. I think it is. That song is so good. Have you watched Truth or Dare in Bed with Madonna? No.

Love Profusion is from American Life. Wait, sorry if I watched what? Have you watched the documentary Truth or Dare in Bed with Madonna? No. We need to watch that. Oh, okay. It's so good. Ooh.

I know I've spoken about this before, but like in that film, you see why there is a feverish love for the personality of Madonna because she had everything that's gone on with like when Chappel Rhone is super like salty and confident with the Paps and then all of the like charisma of like Adele and then Lady Gaga and like these like our divas

that we grew up with but yeah she just is the most charismatic fabulous funny one woman who was seemingly just like smoothed out and made crazy by the industry. Because her personality now is bizarre. What do you mean? Like she. Like she. She seemed so cool.

She seemed so cool. And now she's like there's something so sad and eerie and kind of broken about the way she conducts herself. Yeah. Because it's like, I don't know, there's so many fabulous older women that like, like, like just like move through the world with a sense of grace and confidence in that age. And there's something about how like her insistence on like only being seen with young people. Yeah.

And only like dressing in a way that's like a young person. And it's like trying to keep up with everything. And it's like, I don't know. I think that's where Cindy Lauper is actually just cooler because she's like, aged into being this like batty crazy fabulous woman who didn't I don't think Cindy had the same pressure on her to be like a sex symbol but like she just seems like a better hang

because she's like a real human being well that's the thing Madonna is so self-produced and continues to be yeah like there's no ease of both yeah like I think if there was if she would allow herself to be seen as yeah Madonna the woman in her mid-60s? Yeah.

70? I don't know. I don't know. And the pop star, when the time is right. But yeah, you don't see that duality. It's very, everything is produced, produced, produced to portray a very particular image. Yeah. Which is like, I mean, that's the thing.

Like, pop stars do that all the time. But, like, you see the, like, forgive me, the version of Katie Perry that's, like, walking around with like Justin Thruze. Or like at Coachella, not on stage, just like wearing a t-shirt or whatever. Yeah. But like you don't get to see that side of Madonna.

Yeah. Well, it's like, you know, on May 20th, Cher is going to be 80 years old. Mm. And Cher is someone that feels like the diva. Oh. Doesn't seem to, she doesn't seem to want to be cool.

She just is. Yes. And has kind of vulnerability to her and has had definitely more work than Madonna. But like there's some, there's an ease to her. Yeah. That doesn't, it doesn't feel as like sweaty when she shows up. Yeah. Like, and it's, yeah.

Yeah. Even Dolly. Yeah. Like, did you see that post that Dolly made yesterday advertising this like jewelry collection? No. I was going to send it to you. It's like she looks flawless, which is the critique. Yeah.

It's like, Dolly. We know you're old. We know you're old. Like, you're allowed to be old. Yeah. You can still, like, she looked fantastic, but just, like, brushed beyond her years. Yeah. And, yeah, it's just funny.

But even that, there's an ease to, that isn't present for Madonna. No, I think Madonna. Madonna's only sin because she was fabulous and confident and witty and hilarious and mean and bitchy and funny. But the only thing that Madonna never quite got to was having a sense of humor about herself. And when you are someone that seems to take themselves really seriously in some ways, and part of that is the time in which she had started her career. And like, if you want to have what you have, then you have to be taken seriously.

And like there's many people that are going to try and disregard you because you're a woman trying to have, you know, a longevity in your career and we'll tell you you just need to go away. But because of that, there's never like any winking understanding that like there's anything bizarre about her kind of arrested development, which is bizarre. Like I just like, I don't.

Because I think it's like even in her styling. Like sometimes it's incredible, but then sometimes it's like just like the most kind of bizarre body suit kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels very like aware of like, look at how rocking my body is. And it's like, that's fine. But could someone like, I don't know, get you in some fashion? Like I want to see you serve.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's just a lot of like bizarre things. Yeah. But I'm very excited for the album. It's also weird that she's never done drag race, can I say? Yes. That's crazy. That is crazy.

But same true of Shah. Yeah. Did you see that? They also saw a video of someone, Lorraine. I don't know. Interviewing Sher very, very recently being like, won't you go on drag race? That would be so fun.

Yeah. And Sher was like, oh yeah, I guess. I feel like Sher is put off by what a fan. Andalorian Rue would be. Yes. Like, it would be kind of cringe. Yeah. No, I love that.

Yeah. I love that. Um, but that's, the Rue genuinely loves, like, musicians in a way that he doesn't really care for other people. Totally.

Like, he just, yeah, worships those people. Even the Miley thing at the Grand Van Allé of season 18. Like, obviously, it's,

I mean, who you can get. But yeah, it's a real reverence. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So we're putting in American Life? Yeah.

Yeah. Love profuse. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Next category. Goodbye. The people in the bunker will be happy being identified as sexually I'm American

life. A mess. Don't you ever tell me Love isn't true It's just something that we do Hello and welcome back, listen now Up for discussion next Is which of Katie Perry's

Boyfriends gets into the bunker And this, no, just have you know This was not my suggestion Oh An important Point. Okay. Okay. So Katie Perry is currently making news because obviously she's dating the former Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau. To do there? True, no. Trudeau. But she has, of course, had quite the storied back catalogue of mensers. That elf. Yes. So her most significant previous

relationship past Justin was her nine year marriage relationship with Orlando Bloom which was also where she conceived her child Daisy John Mayer

she dated John Mayer for two years Oh my God and they collaborated on the song Who You Love then for two years she was married to Russell Brand

Yeah. Great choices there. She had a brief fling with similarly unproblematic man Diplo. She dated Diplo? Uh-huh. Did you, can I, may I just interrupt, please? Did you see that video, that AI video that Diplo posted of him wrestling Abawa? No.

In the desert? No. It was so strange. Diplo's going to be doing Diplo things. Yeah. Okay, then she dated Robert Ackroyd, who's the guitarist from Florence and the Machine. scene. Oh.

Then she dated Travis McCoy, who I have no idea who that is, very less than a year. Johnny Lewis, who is some non-famous person. Yeah. Matt Dyson, the Reliant K frontman. Remember Reliant K? No. Oh, that was a bad. And then these are rumored.

Jared Leto to have hooked up with after her split with John Mayer, and Josh Grobin. Now, would you describe this as a woman with taste in men? The placebo song? Okay, I'm now looking at Johnny Lewis. He's fucking hot as. Let's have a look. This is her less than a year.

Johnny Lewis. He's hot. You've got to describe him. Okay, he has like mousy rat features with brilliant blue eyes, mousy blonde hair, a skeletal form A long tail But he's like

Cute like Oh he was from son's of anarchy Oh And he was found dead in his driveway in 2012 What Oh my god An elderly woman was also found dead in the house Seems like a lot of her past boyfriends are dead

Police say they believe Lewis's death was caused by a massive fall Oh. From a balcony. Oh my God. Is Katie Perry Romona Flowers? Seven evil X's. Yeah. Ramona.

Travi McCoy. Has tats? In this picture has a hat at a jaunty angle. I don't like that. No, I'm not into that one. Oh, my. Josh Groban, he looks like Katie would have eaten him alive.

I don't like that She did, famously Hmm Russell Brand Did you see that recent clip of Russell Brand? Now that he's converted to Christianity Him and Gwen Yeah

Well Gwen I think was always a bit Christian But Russell has found it Since people noticed his pantans for raping people Oh Jesus But yeah Because he went a bit newer agey culty, like, hippie kind of vibe.

Yes. But then, yeah, has come back Christian to kind of like atone for his sins. And then was recently on a podcast where he talked about his decision and he was like,

you know, the age of consent is 16 years old in the UK. Which, if you ever start a sentence with that, What the fuck? It's better.

Call the police. Yeah. But he was talking about how when he was 30 he hooked up with a 16 year old. Oh my. Which is just like, I don't know. I don't know, man. Maybe anyone else. Like.

Of an appropriate. Yeah, literally. It's just like you have to know. You've kind of crossed a line. Yeah. Oh. Anyway. Anyway.

And I also, his, like, Katie obviously has chaotic taste in men. Yes. And his, like, they were both having their moment when they got together. However, the reason that we should be thankful for that relationship was that we got it the part of me scene in the Katie Perry documentary. Yes. Where he breaks up with her by a text. And she's crying in her little chair.

Yeah. At backstage at some arena somewhere. Yeah. While her millions of fans are waiting outside because she is the number one pop artist in the world, literally. And she's in the makeup chair and they're pounding makeup onto her face. And she's like, just... And then they turn the lights off and it's just like...

They cut to Katie and they're like, where's Katie? And she's like, she just needed a second. And she's just alone in a makeup room with the lights all off in like a hoodie. Just be like, insane. Yeah, incredible. And then she, like, gets on that little elevator, and they shoot her out on stage.

I know a place, etc. Yeah. Robert Ackroyd is a handsome man, I guess. Who's this? He was the guy from Florence in the machine. Oh, cool. Cool. John Mayer.

John Mayer. My sister. had a song about John Mayer that I'll share with you now. She used to sing in high school. Great. In the kitchen on the floor, I won't lie, I want some more,

John Mayer. I love you, John Mayer. John Mayer! She does continue to be the funniest member of your family. Oh my God. John Mayer. Okay.

John Mayer. he's uh he gets around well known as a a bit of a slatina loves to hook up with the the young chicks yeah all right um because i think he and taylor also had a dalliance um but yeah he is apparently a bit of a fuck wit yeah okay um boo yeah and i always get confused with bublet who i think is absolutely fabulous so his most notable relationships were jennifer aniston Katie Perry, Jessica Simpson, and Taylor Swift. Crazy. Oh, and he also recently dated, I mean, yeah, recently.

Kieran Shipka, Sabrina. Oh, yeah. Halsey, Renee Zalweger, Minka Kelly, Kat Stickler, who's a TikToker, and Jennifer Love Hewitt. What is that from? Jennifer Love Hewitt. Is it a Futurama episode where, like,

So I was like, I will go and become Jennifer Love Hewitt. Oh, I don't know. They will call me by my new name. Jennifer Love, Jennifer Love, Hewitt. That is ringing a bell. I like Jennifer Love Hewitt. Me too. I love that name as well.

Oh, yeah. Back when women had three names. Yeah, save some for the rest of us. Diplo, I mean, I was so on Diplo until I saw him wrestle that AI Boa. It didn't make sense. I don't know. Diplo has remained. uncanceled despite there being like a lot of

stacked up claims about his kind of sexual misconduct with women particularly young women not great and that's a real annoyance because Diplot is very hard yes that freckly face oh ripped bard

do you think he's gay baiting or is he bisexual definitely bisexual okay good Orlando not good for anyone and then Orlando and if we didn't have the Katie and Orlando we wouldn't have the pictures of Orlando's dick. Yes. Which was valuable to the culture. Absolutely.

For those of you who are uninitiated, him and Katie were doing a reenactment of the Dark Course video. Him on the standing paddle board. Yes. And Katie on the front. Yes. While it was going, da-na-na-na-na-na-na-no. And then you can see the shadow. Yes.

Of his dick. Yes. Which we of course wouldn't encourage anyone. No. To pursue without. But did that satisfy some part of your childhood want? Yes. Yes.

To know. Because weirdly, even though I was obsessed with Orlando, I mean, Elijah Wood. Yeah. Like I never really thought found him like particularly like hot. No, no, no. I don't think that's what he's for. No. He seems lovely and wholesome.

Yes. But even like through. yeah, teenage years and like 20s and stuff, it was never like, yeah, I want to get fucking railed by Elijah Wood. But that Legulus or like Vigo, if we were

being real, you know, that's someone you'd like to get railed by. I feel like Vigo is like impenetrable his music persona. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. And that.

Orlando, it's unfortunate because I feel like the film he had such a movie star moment and then it was just slowly more and more apparent that he was not an actor. Correct. Which is really weird because he's British. I also haven't seen any of the parades of the Caribbean. Well, you've never seen them.

No. I've seen what's his face like go on a mast as it like sinks into the ocean and then he steps onto a dock. That's the start of Pirates, the Caribbean. And I've seen Natalie Portman's stunt double in some costumes. Yeah. That's about it. It's a great film. The first one is so good.

It's really good. Okay. Yeah. It's like swashbuckling fun. Kieran Knightley is so good. You know? They're attacking her. And she said, you think that hurts?

And then she says, try wearing a corset. Hey, I know that line. Maybe you have seen it. Maybe I have. I definitely haven't seen the one with octopus face. The second one. Lying. Dead man's chest.

That one was my favorite one. That was great. Bill Nye. Yeah. He's playing the organ with his tentacles. Panticles. Oh. The organ with his tentacles.

Doodly. And the Skelingtons. I mean, that's fun. And then it all went downhill. Yeah. But I suppose my point is Orlando does more acting in those films, right? He does the same amount. But he has the right.

Like, the thing I loved about those films is how, like, It had, you know, your two ingenues, like Kieranightly and an Orlando Bloom, being taken on a fabulous swash-buckling adventure. And you had your, like, supernatural villain and your human villain, and then you had your kind of dunce. And then you had, yeah, two uncancled men in the form of Johnny Depp and Jeff Rush. but if you can put that aside for a second and just imbibe the film Yeah, okay Maybe one day And also gave straight men something to dress up for at costume parties

And put on an eyeliner Yeah Tricked you Just a trick. Tricked you And put their dreads on They didn't need to be encouraged for that one But also

There is something about going out and shooting Practically in the Caribbean Yeah On pirate ships Yes. That's so fun. Imagine being one of those film sets. Yeah.

Like, that's crazy. Yeah. One of the last times you could like, yeah, go on an actual set and be out on these islands for like months with like a bunch of other crew and folk. Should we do witchie girl season two, the girls go to Bali? Yes. Pirates of the Bali. Of the Bali seas. Yeah.

Yeah. Bali girls. Yeah. Witches of the Bali seas. Yeah. Sabrina goes to Rome. Sabrina down under. Yeah.

I like it. Okay, so which are these boyfriends? What do you think on Trudeau? Trudeau. I really don't know much about him. I mean, I think, like, obviously he got ousted by his party. Yes. I think he had, yeah, complicated run towards the end.

He was so sensationalized as this, like, perfect man. And then I think he also had a really, like, troubled, really. relationship with the indigenous population of Canada. Oh. But yeah. I don't know. I just am so confused by, like, what's Katie going to do? Next?

Yeah. Well, she's been to space. She's dating her. She's been to Canada. I feel like there's been a, like, concerted attack on the, like, women that were the soundtrack of Kmart in 2010. Like, Megan Trainor had to sell her house. Cancel her tour.

It's just not right. Why'd she have to do that? I think because no one was coming to the tour. Well, that's not a really attack, is it? No, yes. A character. An attack by the, a rejection of the public. Oh, Richard.

They seem to have woken up to the women that seem like an ANCO product. Somehow. Hmm. I mean, I don't love the, I mean, she can do, she does it all, but the weird photos of Katie dressed as like, I'm dressing conservatively. Because I'm with the- Because I'm standing next to the former prime manager. I'm like, ew.

You know that episode of The Simpsons where Frank Grimes visits Homer's house and sees that he went to space? Yes. I think that Katie Perry is our Homer Simpson. Because like, she just has these adventures. Yes. They're like, wait, so you did the halftime show? And she was like, yeah, it was fun.

And they're like, and what did you do now? I went to space. Yeah. And what do you do now? And she's like, I'm dating the prime minister of Canada. Oh, my God, that's actually so true. And I don't think that she thinks it's weird. I think she's just like, what's happening today?

Yeah. I didn't dance with the giant toilet. Yeah. And we made it and it was a sold-out residency. Yeah. Okay. What's that you say? My song is the theme song to one of Australia's best.

what shows. All right. Whatever you say, dear. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I killed a nun. Oopsie. I dislike the house. Yeah. God, she's great. She, I mean, through that, I feel like at the end of her life, we'll be like, you got away with a lot of shit. Hey.

And you lived a beautiful life. The one that got away. You had purple hair. Then you had blue hair. Yeah. Sometimes I think about all those wigs and all those wigs and one. where they are now. Wigs. Are they in,

are they like fluttering in a landfill outside of L.A.? I reckon she's got a vault. For like a blue party city wig from 2010? Yeah. I think that, yeah. Or they start breaking down and become more sticky. Oh, God. I'm going to say Orlando,

because he seems like the unproblematic fave. Yeah, true. Okay. I'm down. Orlando. He's fabulous. Should we also put in a, little yacht thing for the oceanarium

just as an option for him to kayak on. A standing paddleboard? Yes. Just as like Orlando, if you feel like doing that, do it. And a shield for him to ride down the stairs. What? You know, like the Battle of Helm's deep.

Yes, of course. He couldn't have gotten down the stairs any other way. That's right. And not with such a flare. He's a pirate shield. Yeah. And a stand-up paddleboard. Yeah. Okay, so a paddle board which also means we're closer to a gladiator match because there's now one of those double-handed paddleboard rowing things

you know what I'm saying? Yes I love those things. Bayanetta would love that too, I'm sure. If you could see it. Okay. Lock it in? Great. Next category.

Hello. Hello, Dasha. Now, for our final topic of discussion today, we don't know what it is because it's a speakhole from now it could be i don't know but it's from hebe hebe which is maybe a typo for he he or maybe it's someone's name someone's allowed to have the name hebe hebe true i just don't know true oh here it is su langior divas um i am a devoted listener of the pod i absolutely love it

I have been hooked ever since Zelda told the story of being burglarized by the trolley guy, or I should say allegedly by the trolley guy. It wasn't alleged. I have a question about witchy girls, and I'm so excited for you guys. I've got my ticket for the premiere, but I can't make it two week two of screenings. So I was wondering, like, can we watch the episodes somewhere? Will they be made available on the Patreon? I'm sorry if you've already explained this somewhere.

I am a bit behind an episode. Sometimes I like to bank them up. I've heard this. Oh, and congratulations to Matt on baby number two on the way. I don't know if there's paternity leave in the bunker. So it would be interesting. All right. Thanks, Devas. Love you. Bye.

Our second woman. Oh, my God. Don't say that. We've had many women. You have already caused problems by saying. What do you mean? So many women. We had a woman last week and we had the woman before.

I think that was the same woman. How dare you presume that Hebe is a woman. Gender is a construct. Tear it apart. Terrible but and wearable art. Hebe. Hebe. Hebe.

Sorry if that's your actual name. Well, that is so kind. And we have been, I would say, a little bit cagey about talking about talking about where the show would be released, obviously, until now. Because we were still feeling out whether we were going to put it somewhere else, where it was going to end up, if we were going to be swept off our feet by a Netflix executive to delay putting it online so that we could, you know, go and have it on streaming or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. However, as of time of recording, that has not happened.

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And please, if you see them come up, comment. Yes. All your engagement will help push it out to a broader audience, allowing us another step in our plans to rule the world. Yes.

Of entertainment and media. Yes. Hebe, I wonder if you enjoyed that night that we shared together two nights ago. at the Capitol Theatre. Yes. For the premiere.

Yes. And Hebert, I hope to see you again at May 28th at the finale for episodes 5 and 6. Hmm. Yes. That's that. That's that. Well.

Thank you for celebrating us. Thank you for making sure that we are not legally liable to the trolley man for accusing him of Robin Zilver. He went to court. It was him. Did he go to court? Yes. Was he prosecuted? Yes.

What happened? Where is he now? Oh, they didn't keep me in the loop. What do you mean they didn't keep you in the loop? Well, I only found it like I was only involved up to the point of like, he's going to court. So they didn't call you in and say, Zelda Moon, do you see the man who accosted you in this courtroom today? Yes, it was him. It was him.

No, it was him. Okay, Zelda, whatever you say. Well, so saith the law as well. I'm famously always right. No, Zelda's crazy. How are you? Hey. What?

So Orlando Bloom is in the bunker now. Orlando Bloom. Our show is on YouTube and... A paddleboard and that fabulous double-ended paddleboard stick. And from the first topic, it is, of course, American Life. That's right. The Madonna Immaculate Selection. Your tag on Grindr.

Your sexual preferences. Yeah. Have you been affronted with the new, like, have they tightened up the restrictions of age verification across, like, grinder and? Dating ups, you, the way that the verification stuff is working for, like, porn websites, because you don't, like, if you have an account and you're logged in, the account has your age linked to the profile or whatever. Yeah. So if you're casually, porn and. then you have to do all that verification. But with the dating apps, because you have to have an account to engage in such a thing,

you kind of don't encounter it because you've already gone through that to just use the interface. Okay. Yeah. So it's not been causing you any harm. No. Okay. Well, that's great. Thank you for checking you.

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