Death To Everyone - Death To... TV Commercials, Names For Women & Has-Beens

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

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Oh What's that? Two skeletons! No. No. You'll never escape the Crypt Keeper's lair No, you have to wait It's not a Halloween episode yet Put those Skellingtons away

In my dream, Zelda Moon Every episode's a Halloween episode I mean, it kind of is We should do a Halloween episode Like a Halloween in... What's the opposite of October? Halloween in... Wait, what's the opposite of October? Halloween in... Wait, what's the opposite of October?

Bro? February. February? Is that the opposite month? Wait, what's October? October's the 9th? The 8th? 10th.

The 10th. So it would be the... 4th. April. January, February, March. Right? Well, it's 12 months, so halfway is six. Six, halfway?

Ten minus. Wait, what? Ten minus six is April. Four. Ten minus six. Ten minus six equals April. It does. It's maths.

April. Yeah. Yeah, so we're doing. You know what? It's the 31st of March, maybe. Or is it the 31st of April? Matt? Darling, we need to do Halloween in April. Yeah, so we're doing You know what, it's the 31st of March, maybe Or is it the 31st of April? Matt? Darling, we need to do Halloween in April

Yeah, let's do that Let's do it And welcome to Death to Everyone An incredible counting show The counting I've been listening Oh my god, the count was my favourite on Sesame Street We definitely covered that

I know, but I'm just saying Recall And what's your name? Great. We definitely covered that. I know, but I'm just saying. Recall. And what's your name? I'm Lazy Susan. Hey. And what's your name? I'm Zolomon.

I wasn't talking to you. What's your name, listener? Send it in. I want an email that just says your name. My name is... My name is... And what's your name, space car driver? Matty boy Honka honka

There he is in his space car driving overhead Ah ooga There we go Growing up, what was your gamer handle? Or your first Hotmail email address? Me? Yeah It was Matty boy

Matty boy Matty boy Matty boy 3000 3000 From the planet Glamtron Yeah It was Matty Boy Matty Boy Matty Boy Matty Boy 3000 3000 From the planet Glamtron Yeah It's futuristic Okay so we're a little bit

Like ahead now Of the 8 ball Because we are pre-recording these Yeah But I do want to say Listener We forced Zelda To watch a film

Based on your votes On the Patreon Which is your votes on the Patreon, which is now live on the Patreon in the future. So we watched Shrek the other night. We did. Had you not seen Shrek? No. And I'm sorry to listeners who voted and actually voted for Parent Trap,

but Zelda had to get up the next morning, so we opted for the film that had 40 less minutes. But we'll do Parent Trap next. Well, she did. Yeah, we didn't watch the extended edition or the DVD commentary. Of Shrek. Of Shrek. Oh, God.

There's not an extended edition of that movie. No. It's a perfectly sound, like, one hour, 30 minutes. That was like, they. Good cut. Shout out to the Shrek people, because that film is tight like a fucking drum. We are on that mission to Lord Farquaad's house in like 15 minutes of start time. And that I appreciate.

Sure. You know? Yeah. There's no meandering around. Did you enjoy it? Did I enjoy it? Look, I certainly warmed to it towards the end. But mostly, like, I now have a love-hate relationship with how

hideous it is um she just sat there for an hour and i'm going why are they so ugly they're so ugly they are meant to be ugly why why are all these people assholes why would you intentionally make a film that is hideous to observe since that that is the primary function of a film, is to be watched. Yeah, but ugly is a valid thing. I guess. I mean, you prove it every day. So drag is all about. Okay.

Yeah, but I came to appreciate the scenery art style. I still can't get behind the character design. But I, yeah, I quite liked that. And I loved how like empty the scenes were, like filled with trees, like extremely like early 2000 video game, late 90s 3D video game. Wind-up XP.

Which was great. Like, and i don't like i mean that i think it's really like kind of nice and like a real snapshot of like early cg animation and stuff and as we talked about on the podcast like and i think your um podcast the patreon exclusive um i think you're so right about it being like such an early and yet informative part of all future animation, really. Which, what an incredible thing to aspire towards, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. So if you want to hear more of that conversation and just hear the blow by blows,

Zelda learns that Princess Fiona is in fact an ogre. Spoiler alert. And she's like, what? She's got secrets too. Yeah, I saw that coming. Yeah. It's a great, you know, imagine watching it through the eyes of a child.

But yes, with our Patreon exclusive movie club, you just press play at the start time and you watch along with us as we talk over the movie and ruin it for you. And for everyone. Yes. And we're going to do it again with Parent Trap next month, which is very exciting.

Yeah. Okay, enough with that, Mishigosh. Also, rate, review, and subscribe. That was an ad. It was an ad! We weren't having a conversation. We were advertising something. Oh, Patreon. Patreon. You know, they have such We were advertising something. Patreon.

Patreon. You know, they have such a cool logo now. Patreon. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. It's so like... I think I have to unsubscribe from Christine McConnell's Patreon. Why? Because she...

I love Christine McConnell. It's just a bit dear for me, ATM. And I have three Patreons that I subscribe to. I subscribe to Jenny Nicholson, which is great and pays for itself every month when she puts out an hour-long ramble video, which I love. Blank Check with Griffin and David, which is hit and miss. But, you know, they actually do a movie club as well. But I didn't.

They did, like, all the Ninja the ninja turtles films how do they set up their movie club is that how we do ours exactly like oh great it's almost like we completely stole it oh but um then christine mcconnell does lots of lives and i don't want to get up and watch you fucking make i want to like in the like privacy of my squalid nightmare dreams in bed, watch you make cupcakes, you know, like I don't want you being like, Oh,

you've just joined the chat. Yeah. Ugh. Hey, space dog 74. Yeah. Stop perceiving me. Maddie boy.

Yeah. 3000. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bit like, yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah. But I want to support her. Cause I'm like, she deserves the world. Yeah. 3,000. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bit like, yeah, I don't know about that. Yeah.

But I want to support her because I'm like, she deserves the world. Yeah. But it's like, I can't really afford to right now, but I will come back, Christine.

I love you so much. Could you imagine if Christine listened to the pod? She might. She might. She'd be power sending something and then have her giant headphones on. I wonder what genre we could discuss in order to secure christine in the bunker well halloween in april is certainly

gonna help ah true if you don't know who we're talking about yeah christina mcconnell is a youtuber turned netflix series gal turned back to youtube gal yeah um she kind of does these like really really intricate DIYs where presumably she doesn't have the skill set before she begins yeah but it seems like everything she endeavors to understand she can yes kind of like FKA twigs in that way she's perfect yeah where it's like I'm gonna learn pole dancing for a music video. Yeah. All right. And then she does it amazingly. Yeah. Like Christine is like, I'm going to learn how to upholster a couch. Yeah.

But she does it like better than anyone ever has. Yeah. She's so good. Yeah. And she's like kind of gothic, but like looks like a 50s housewife. And like never a hair out of place and everything she has is kind of pristine and she like does a lot of like intense labor with her hands but they're still like pristine yes like piano teacher hands kind of like if dita was did something yeah

like holding power tools yeah yeah it's like insane that her Netflix show got cancelled as well. It was so good. It was so good. Sorry, there was Netflix coming after me. Again. Her Netflix show was kind of an expansion on her YouTube channel where she just like made different things to like every episode she was making different things, usually baking a bit more like it was a bit more food

focused yeah but she lived in this haunted house full of like all of these puppets that articulated her life yeah so cute and it was such a like jim henson company puppets and they hung out with her and loved her they were so good and then she was like yeah I'll teach you how to make something each week yeah

like in a kind of yeah Betty Crocker vibe it's highly highly it's probably the best programming on Netflix it's great

because she like people think that she's really like stiff in her delivery but she's giving like Lana Del Rey like Xanax princess

thing like her delivery is always monotone yeah She's giving Lana Del Rey, Xanax princess thing. Her delivery is always monotone. Yeah. And it's like there's nothing, there's no inflection on anything. But that's the point of it. It's meant to be that. Yeah. But I think that people didn't understand that you were meant to pop a Xanny

and sit on the couch and just get lost in the kind of smooth waves of christine mccartney yeah anyway she's fabulous she is so fab and she's happy i don't think she needs all that netflix drama no i don't think like i think one day maybe they'll come crawling back after so unceremoniously cancelling her show. Yeah. But I think she makes a shit ton from YouTube and Patreon. Which is so good. At least just from me. God damn it. Yeah.

Speaking of no season two, did you see that the Acolyte, the Star Wars show, was cancelled before season two? Good. Which, okay. Finally they're cancelling some shit. Oh, so you hate representation? all of it yeah i wish we had half of it it's really like it's interesting because like i didn't particularly enjoy the show like it had i thought a lot of like i don't know script issues and just like at the end of it i've like part of the issue with expanding a universe is like if the actual stories aren't interesting then why are they being

told like and this is set before it's like the earliest on screen that we've ever seen of star wars so like it's so far removed from everything else you could really do anything and they kind of did that but then it's all still tied to the key events of the main movies or whatever but the point is that like it's so fundamentally like not that interesting yeah that like why even bother yeah like if it's going to inform the rest of the story then that could be a story worth telling or if it's just a kick-ass of the story, then that could be a story worth telling. Or if it's just a kick-ass story, that's really fun, that's completely separate, which is what I think all of these expanded universe things should be doing.

So that one, like they're a bit more experimental and fun, but also like they can live or die and it doesn't affect anything else. Yeah. Like if you've created a literal galaxy, like the things that aren't to do with luke skywalk can still be interesting if it's an interesting world to play in totally but yeah the show was like so poorly received mostly i think i talked about this when it started airing but like mostly for like

fucking i don't know diversity casting like like the pros were unhappy yeah yeah like lesbian like witch cult and then like yeah like then like but they're also like so overly sensitive because there were all these things in the storyline about how the two main characters came to be that kind of impacted how anakin like darth vader came to be because like shmi had like like the writing is incredible right like anakin didn't have a father and it was like part of the mystery of that whole thing that kicked off that whole thing but the two characters in this show it was alluded to perhaps came from a similar origin of like force magic oh and then the fact that they were like black gals and they were raised by lesbians

was like whoa whoa whoa not only the force yeah like anyway but it's such a shame because like many what's his name many just anyway yeah many anyway M-U-A. Yeah, Manny M-U-A. He was playing Schmink. Schmink. Yes, yeah. But he seems quite devastated about it. And he was the best part of the show. So it's quite sad.

I can't imagine the amount of work that goes into these things. And like the amount of time in casting and everything just to then have the plug pulled after one season it's it's a real shame yeah and then to have also inherited a bunch of fucking bullshit from the fandom um it's it's unfortunate that like because i like obviously none of my issues with the show were the things that the lesbian witch code yes that wasn't my issue with the show um but it's just unfortunate that there were other flaws in this series like the pacing and the structure and the writing and all of that stuff because like yeah if it had have been really really great then it would be really obvious that the only reason it got cancelled just because of

like fan backlash or whatever. Yeah. It kind of muddies the waters a bit when it wasn't, like, a perfect show. Yeah. Anyway, so that's just happened in front of mind. Oh, sorry to all the people who are working on the Acolyte. I hope that you find work quickly and that it doesn't feel too bad. Too bad?

Yeah. Matthew. You said it the wrong way, I thought. The emphasis. Doesn't feel too bad. Yeah, it doesn't feel too bad. Sorry to the acolyte. I don't know this man.

Have any of your shows been cancelled lately? I'm not really watching any shows. I think I've given up on everything. Yeah, fair. Like, what am I watching? I'm watching scream queens the incredible reality television show where they try and find out who's going to be on saw four or five uh it's terrible and 2008 was an awful time for television and women

and then i mean i'm watching can vs. the World Drag Race. It's the best season of Drag Race I've had in such a long time. You're quite enjoying it. I love, love, love that kind of stuff. You know? That stuff is good. I just think it's a great cast of scrappy underdogs who all have a reason to be there.

And there's no clear, clear, clear winner. Frontrunner. Like there's definitely like bubbles, but I just think it's great. I think they've done a great job. It's fun. I'm excited for this week's episode. Anyway. Yes.

And also great challenge design. Shout out to the producers. Everything feels very fun. Hmm. Yeah. Snatch Game the musical. What a triumph. Yeah. Everything feels very fun. Yeah. Snatch Game, the musical. What a triumph. Yeah.

Love it. Okay. Okay. Sell the moon. It's the end of the world. On this podcast, we endeavor to take things from culture and put them into a bunker to spare them from the oncoming apocalypse. Yes. Can you tell me, what is the apocalypse this week?

I can. Yes. Okay. So imagine, if you would, that. I can. Okay, so imagine if you would that... I will. The planet and all of the inhabitants. Even Shmi? Even Shmi.

Shmi and Shmoo? Shmoo. Don't be ridiculous. Schmoo? Yeah, schmoo. Don't be ridiculous. Ark. Ark.

An ark? No. No, you can kind of think of the planet as kind of like a layered beehive. Oh, like an onion. Kind of. And all of the little people running around, buzzing around. I like the little bees. I guess so, yeah. And then there's something of a galactic goddess entity that's overseeing the Milky Way galaxy

and curating the little apiary of planets, some of which have bees and some of which their queen has died. And I don't know, listener, if you've seen this particular um youtube video but lives in my memory uh of this uh russian apiary owner who um one night had the live cam set up and a bear came and knocked down the beehive and ate all of the honey. So with that in mind, the apocalypse this week is that some celestial bear. A celestial bear? Yes, has come along and discovered a little sweet hive of earth filled with delicious inhabitants. Wow. And the bear has smashed the planet and supped out all the honey, which is, I don't know, maybe...

Lava? Yeah, something. Magma? Yeah, magma. Yes, and then the next day, Celestial Goddess, I don't know, maybe her name's Zelda or something, comes and has a little look and she's like, oh shit, that fucking bear came back and smashed through my beehive planet. And that's the apocalypse for this week. It's so creative. that fucking bear came back and smashed through my beehive planet. And that's the apocalypse for this week.

It's so creative. We used to have just giant women. But now we have a giant bear. Yeah. And I appreciate all that you do and bring to this podcast. Thank you. Shall we take a break now just to recover? I know. Dry your tears, listener. Dry your tears.

Dry your tears. To every world Hello. Hello. And welcome back. I hope you had a nice break down after hearing about the world's end. I'm still trying to recover myself. Actually, I've got to finish. I was watching The Bear.

Like that cooking show? Yeah What is Is that worth watching? What's the deal? Watch season one I'm only on season two Yeah It's good

I just you know like I don't know why Anyway watch it It's good It's fun It feels like it's stressful And it's just a lot of people Yelling at each other

Oh baby It is Okay But good? Yeah and the episodes are Mercifully short Oh stressful and it's just a lot of people yelling at each other oh baby it is okay um but good yeah and the episodes are mercifully short oh which is great well like 22 minutes yeah they're like oh short short wow yeah it's great and that's the one with that one jeremy allen white oh never mind what who's the person that we put in the bunker who's paul mescal paul mescal he's from all of us strangers and after sun whatever i thought that was that guy he's in gladiator 2 the one who wore buddy you're

a man make a big noise jen and in the street gonna be a big man um he's not the calvin klein model that's the guy from the bear yeah but that's not paul Paul Meskow. No. Okay. I can't keep up. They're kind of similar in that they're both like weird looking men that are hot. Yeah. That's a great genre. Like a dropped pie. You're still going to eat it. You are.

Okay. Okay. Our first topic for discussion today, Luzna, is TV commercials. And which one goes into the bunker? Yeah. I used to work in advertising for five years yeah i think i'm rounding up he's four and a half but whatever yeah you guys doing what are you my resume did you prepare any tv commercials in that day we worked on some tv commercials i didn't um

um like i started a lot more in social world, but there's usually like a crossover. So you'd be on TV sets, but you'd be capturing for social. And then, yeah. Anyway, the world of TV commercials is crazy. Just the amount of money that is spent on like 30 of the most annoying seconds of people's lives. Like things that people are going to be like, fuck this. But there's some fun ones in there. they do occasionally they are occasionally good which is great yeah um but yeah

so i mean like we've got to kind of start by just tapping on some of the icons of the australian tv commercial world um chris and marie's Farm, which if you're from Victoria only, you'll know, which is, hello, hello. It's Chris and Murray's Plant Farm. And they have a real good special on bougainvilleas right now. Yes, Neighbours Be Gone, the hedge that gets to the... Fucking Neighbours Be Gone. Yes, and all the bits and bobs.

But they got a divorce and it was messy But it was very like They paid 200 bucks to have their ad on TV But it went weirdly like pre-internet viral Yes Because they were kind of annoying Yeah, a nasal voice really Cuts through

Yes Yeah Like Hello Frank Walker from National Town National Town Another hideous ad from our youth That I'm sure

Like For a tile business Yeah To live in people's brains For the rest of their lives Absolutely That's pretty impressive Well I think that's the thing

We always kind of talk about In Adland Like it's not really about whether someone likes the ad if they have a fondness for the ad that's good but it's more just about like is it sticky does it stay in your head because it's better to kind of be a bit of a nuisance than to just be completely forgotten totally like if people are just like even having any response and it's cutting through then they're gonna remember you um and eventually like the initial annoyance fades but the the thing stays in your head yeah um the landscape would have changed so much now though right because like no one watches or so few watch just regular shmegular TV with ads.

Honey, can I tell you, that's the biggest surprise because we live in a bubble and still the king advertising like breaks down into like the most effective strategy is still free to air television advertising. It's still the king. Yeah. People are watching that shit. What do you mean?

People are still watching like go home and turn on channel seven yeah absolutely it's crazy that it still has such sway that and the other thing that really sticks out to me is that email mailing lists like yeah are the number one conversion tool that you have Like people actually go and re-up their insurance or whatever from an email mailing list more than anything else. We have an email mailing list. Have you ever advertised on it? Yeah.

Wow. Isn't that fucking crazy? Yes. Yeah. It's just like there's old world things that just still are very effective. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like advertising at the footy is still very effective. Like there's just so much stuff there that's like even though we're not,

you know, you think everyone's like cord cutting. It's not really the case. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. When all the boomers die, it'll drop off. It definitely is like slowly starting to change. But like there's still a bunch of people from our generation

and younger that are watching like, yeah, MasterChef and whatever. Yeah, that's true. I feel like maybe straight people are more open to that. Yeah. I just like, I don't have time to watch something. You have to watch the Acolytes and find out what happened. Specifically of my choosing. Yeah.

But that's, I kind of, that's what I was talking about the other day with Samsung TV. It's like I think when you come home from a busy day, you just want to put something on and then not have to worry about it. But I also think that people with boring lives need to be watching the same content as all their boring friends so they have something to talk about. I think you're coming after people who have boring lives.

How would that person even be insulted? Hey, I have a boring life. Hey, I watch TV and talk about it with my friends. I watch maths or whatever. No, but it's nice to be part of the national conversation. The national conversation. I just, yeah, I don don't because in my household we watched a lot more american content which is not crazy for australia but like we didn't really watch a lot

a lot of australian content um in growing up so i never had that exact same affinity apart from things like yeah big brother or whatever yes anyway so what do you look for in a good ad well so i mean yes as we say like things that will stick with you and last i think like have you ever cried in an ad not likely um i don't thought that I can recall. I like, I mean, I remember a like spray and wipe ad. You know how they were like, Oh, thank you. Yeah.

Like it had this like jingle kind of song. But what I hated about that was that like, Get the cleaning out of the way and enjoy our holiday. Yes. So thank you. Say thank you. Ajax brand wipe. Antibacterial. But then there would be like different versions for like the Ajax brand wipe orange.

It cleans and disinfects. Yes. But like I want the baseline song. I don't want the remix with the like orange scent. Oh. So like as it went on, like there were so many different versions of the same jingle. Yeah. But it was like, no, I just want the one with the like orange scent oh so like as it went on like there were so many different versions of the same jingle yeah but it was like no i just want the one oh yeah i like that they like iterated on it you get like different flavors because then you can't sing

along because you don't know which one's playing gotta keep up with the times darling what ajax theme song gets into the bunker? The original? Yeah. My sister used to know all of that. Yeah. But that I do like. Yeah.

That's a good one. I mean, yeah. I don't know. I mean, I suppose every country would have its like peak, yeah, like 80s, 90s, 2000s, like peak TV advertising jingles and things. Totally. Oh, yeah. You like go to like, yeah, Tennessee or whatever. And they're like, it's 189-189-73296.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's kind of fun. Yeah. So, I mean, obviously we're going to be skewed towards the Australian ones. Australiana. Well, I was going to suggest an American ad that I love. Oh, Not Happy Jan.

Well, listen, we're getting to that. But the Sony Bravia where they dropped all the bouncy balls in San Francisco and then it has the Jose Gonzalez version of the knife song. You know the one? Teardrops. Yeah. Yeah. No, not teardrops.

Heartbeats. Heartbeats. And like, one night is freedom. And then like all the bouncy walls are like going and they actually drop them. And like, it's just like the most – like definitely almost cried in that one because it's so beautiful. Like you could never do it now obviously because people would be upset about dropping all those bouncy balls.

What if they donate them like Charlie's panties? Yeah, exactly. But it's so cool. And just like also like that's the kind of stuff that I love in advertising where it's like you can get away with doing techniques and things you wouldn't necessarily do in a film because it's just like that's like yeah two million dollars or whatever just to like block off probably more but like all the streets in san fran that sheer scale of bouncy balls where they had to like buy out every bouncy ball company in america and color

code them and put them into different vats and then drop them is like so beautiful and all they're trying to say is like sony bravia amazing color like but it's so effective it's just incredible that's fun um i remember when the gameCube started being advertised, like in the late 2000s, early, I mean, late 90s, early 2000s, like Nintendo marketing globally was so different and it was very like kind of like, because they were in such hot competition with PlayStation. Yeah. Who were like by design very like edgy and cool yeah nintendo

like had a real phase of maybe like 10 years or whatever of much edgier campaigns like kind of like tongue-in-cheek like you're like sitting on the toilet with your game boy and the ad is like you're holding the game boy and like you're like you know like pants around your legs or whatever yeah because like you can do it anywhere. Um, which they would fucking never do something like that now. Yeah. But I remember the first GameCube ads were so cool.

They were like this also like kind of like the abyss or like, you know, like that kind of weird sci-fi reference where like, there's just this like cube floating with like all these battles happening in it and all these like teenage boys are looking at it like wow get the cube um i like that that is good also those original playstation ads were so good the ones were like kind of apex twinsy yes yeah So like the little girl who has, and like, wait,

does she have a mouth for a face? I don't know. There was so much, or like all of the print ads from like gamer magazines, like where like you're playing PlayStation and then like the veins in your wrist are popping, but like in the shape of an X and an O and a square and stuff. So cool.

That is fun. I like that. I mean, like that's's, like, when they, whoever's, like, the most cool girl who has nothing to lose at the time is usually making the kind of best ads. Because they're like, well, we don't have a reputation at this point to fuck up. So when PlayStation first came on the scene,

all they needed to do was be like, we're not like Nintendo. Yeah. We're for young, like, ravers ravers like you know what i mean like they were like advertising at raves and like had like playstation set up at like club nights and stuff like to be like we're not your grandmother's nintendo this isn't for children yeah so crazy and then square took Final Fantasy 7 to Playstation instead of Nintendo 64 and it was all over

exactly exactly yeah you know what I'm talking about of course darling you don't have to tell me trash and that was of course the Final Fantasy okay what other fantastic ads And that was, of course, the final fantasy.

Okay, what other fantastic ads? I mean, so, well, yes. So then other iconic Australian ads. There's like chewing the corn or whatever. And it's like the raining. March, the rains are here. Bunch of kids eating corn, making a poor drought-ridden farmer think for a second that he was going to have his livelihood back. And really, they're just eating dinner before dinner time. Eating juicy corn in the midnight.

And who paid for that? Yeah. Where'd that corn come from? Certainly not your ravaged land, sir. Yeah, McCain's. You've done it again. Sent a farmer to his grave. Yeah. That poor man. Yeah, McCain's, you've done it again Sent a farmer to his grave Yeah

That poor man Yeah And where's Marge? She died five years ago He still yells out for her Do you know what I fucking He's trying to raise two children on his own Hate is the

When they interpolate Or do a version of a famous song. And it's like, It's my watch playing tricks on me. You're eating breakfast and it's half past three. Yeah, I hate that. Satanas from the grave. Or like, yuck.

It's so evil. Yuck. What about the good guys? Come in and see the good, good, good guys. Yeah. Pay cash and we'll crash the prices. I always felt like in those ads for the good guys, which were like a white good salesman people,

they're like men were being served a lot more by the uniform than the women. Absolutely. Like I feel bad for those women that look like absolute like dorkus malorkuses in those button-up shirts. I was like, they could have done you a better cut. Like, Apollo is not forgiving. No. Not when you want, like, yeah, they could have done some more for them.

Yeah. Good guys. I suppose it's in the name that they really care about. The guys. The guys. It's not good gals. No. No.

that I really care about. The guys. The guys. It's not good gals. No. Do you know, my dad ended up doing a lot of voiceover work in the 90s because he was an actor. Yes. And there was like a lot more rules around American content

coming into the Australian television marketplace. Is it like if you're a brand, you couldn't just drop your American ad in Australia with American accents or whatever? Or if you were going to do that, you had to get it redubbed. And so when you were redubbing ads into the Australian market, if they still wanted an American accent, they would go to someone like my dad, who's American. So he ended up dubbing over, like, the yellow M&M for, like, years. Wow.

Because, yeah, it was just, like, they had to get someone local to do that voice. Even to still have it be an American accent? To have it still be an American. But because he was, like, an Australian citizen, it still counted. That's great. Yeah. Pretty crazy.

What about those Italian Ferrero Rocher ads with the yellow woman? It's just good for a snack. Yeah. There's this woman that gets into a limo and she's like, I don't know what she says. It's in Italian. But she's like, please, I'm just so famished. Help me.

And then the driver gives her a very puzzling look. And then he presses a button on the dash. And then a tiny little shelf opens in the back seat. And a little shelf comes out. And it's got a single Ferrero Rocher on it. And she eats it. And she's like, oh, a delicious snack just for now. Yeah.

Well, I had this pitch that I was always trying to get through when I worked in advertising that, you know, Cadbury was too cowardly to take, which was going to be a three-part ad series that played out over three years in the public consciousness. You know, that's how it pitched it. They didn't go for it? They didn't.

Anyway, so ad one, it's a woman. She's a businesswoman. And she comes over to someone's desk. And she's a bit past it. She's had it. She's had it. She's obviously tired. And the scene is very like David Fincher Fight Club.

It's lit like a neon office space and she's like um uh john can i just can i please have these on my desk by the end of the day friday i just um you know i just sorry are you eating a cabaret? And she's like, oh, sorry. And she completely stops and then she's like, I'm just going to take a little Minnie Mouse vacation. Oh, my God. And then she takes a little block, you know, a pip of the chocolate and puts it in her mouth and he's watching her and she's like,

taking off. Oh, I'm sat in an aisle seat. I'm flying. I'm flying. I'm landing. I'm landing and the sun is so bright and I'm sitting on the white sandy beaches. And yes, I'll have another coconut mimosa.

Oh my God, I'm going through the gift shop. I'm having so much fun. And everyone's like looking in the office and she's like sorry sorry about that and then it's been that's the end of the first ad yeah and it's like take a cheeky little mini mouth vacation um and then the second ad it like cuts to her in her apartment and she's been fired because she keeps taking these Minnie Mouse vacations. And she's like watching TV and in her like sad, like empty apartment that kind of doesn't really have anything

and there's big bags under her eyes. And she's just like this like final notice rent you kind of leaflets around her. And then you see that she's got a little treat in Cadbury block. this final notice rent you kind of leaflets around her. And then you see that she's got a little treat in Cadbury Block. And she takes a little pip and she's like, things just couldn't get worse. And she says, but what if I take a little Minnie Mouse vacation? And then she puts the chocolate on her tongue and she's like,

take it off. Here we go. And then it slowly zooms out through the wall and you see that she's in like a giant apartment block and it's just her little flickering light and you can hear the voice of her taking her cheeky little mini mouth vacation and like, you know, car alarms going off in the distance and dogs barking. And she's just screaming into the night alone in her apartment.

And that's year two. People fall in love. And by that point, like she's a national icon. They're like here to flip the coin for the AFL grand final. It's mini mouth vacation, lady. Yeah. And then third year, we start and we're in in the Norwegian countryside and we see like a little Norwegian farmhouse and we follow we track

a little girl coming running down from the woods at the back of her house um into this little farm cottage house and she runs into the house and it's all in Norwegian and she like comes to a mother who's like cooking um you know at the stove and she grabs you know the edge of her skirt and she says mama mama and then this is all in Norwegian so and she's like um and then the mom was like, what was it? And then the only line in English is, And then we pull back through the woods and we see the woman in the woods and it's that woman in her same office attire,

but her hair is filled with leaves and debris and she's putting a little chocolate in her mouth and she's like, Take it off! And she's putting a little chocolate in her mouth and she's like, take it off! That was the best time! Flying through the sky! Swimming with the dolphins! And then it says, take a cheeky mini-mouth vacation with Cadbury.

So, okay. I can perhaps see why Cadri didn't pick this up. But have you pitched it to like Heroin Awareness Week? Because. It needs to be a chocolate, I think. But we can go after Toblerone. Or like M&A. Yeah.

Toblerone, it will ensure that you lose your job, get evicted. That's how good the cheeky little Minnie Mouth vacation is. Although my pitch for a Toblerone line is, Toblerone, get to the point. It would just be like people having conversations at the ballet because that's their target market and And it's like richies. Yeah. And they'd be like,

Oh, Margaret, Margaret, get to the point. And then like it raises into frame. Yeah. And then she's like, I was talking about the Toblerone.

Sorry to yell. I guess all my ad pictures were just women. Women yelling. Get to the point. That's good. I like that. Oh, not cheeky little mini mouth vacation? Because both could live in a market at the same time.

The amount of times, listener, that I have heard Lazy Susan say, cheeky little mini mouth vacation is maybe 500 at this point. It's addicting. I was there when it was conceived and I had to hear about it for years. A cheeky little Minnie Mouse vacation. One day I'll get to make it. A Minnie Mouse vacation. A cheeky.

You should release a chocolate line. Just make it, yeah. Mr. Beast. Oh my God. Okay. Very quickly. What else? I love the Dolmio girl, the puppet.

Sabrina baby slut. They have this haunting ad for this Italian pasta sauce in a jar that they sell in Australia. Dolmio green. Ah, the Dolmio green. Which, I'm sorry listeners from abroad, but that's a really disgusting thing that boys say about the dolmiogren. What? Like the dolmiogren is if you've, I'm sorry to say this. What?

It's if you've gone down on a girl on her period. What? And you say, ah, the dolmiogren. What? Because you have the like red pasta sauce. Is it actually? Yeah. Straight people

I mean it's very creative But it's no cheeky little mini mouth Give me the point I like Yeah I think it's just like particular jingles that bounce around I mean jingles are back baby We need jingles Now more than ever Because because they're weird.

Yeah, they're so sticky. What about that iconic My Model? My, my model. There was this head that you could do makeup on. Now. That they sold to children. You can be creative. But then the song for it was weirdly like a trance track

that you would absolutely hear at three in the morning, like the Bergheim. Yeah, actually, if Jandrews is listening to this, you probably need to do that remix. My model, my, my, my model. It's like that I would go off to my model. Oh, my God, he's so good. But yes, okay, so the real one, the real diva yeah yellow pages the yellow pages

which don't exist anymore like at all oh they might have a web presence oh but that no one needs them yeah to find businesses i think everyone's just using google yeah um but so using Google. Yeah. But so the Yellow Pages, and they had this ad where a woman, I mean, I can't imagine why I love it, in an office setting, incredible. And she says, Jan, could you come in here, Jan? And then Jan is like another woman, incredible as well, is walking through the office And hears that her boss is calling her And then Jan says

Jan doesn't say anything And then the woman says I'm just looking for our ad in the yellow pages You did remember to put that in there And Jan's eyes go wide As she realizes she did not in fact do that She forgot She's got a life

Jan has a life And she's wearing a cardigan and her hair's pinned back but flowing at the back, like that woman from private practice. And then she grabs her stuff and she starts running down the stairs. I've got to get out of here. And the woman in the office is like, count to ten, nine, 8, 7. And she's incredible.

And you just keep cutting back to Jan running for her life. Running. And she's like scrambling out of the office. And she's like, 5, 4. And then you see Jan running, pelting across the forecourt in front of the office building. And our boss gets up to open the window. And this is the like clinching moment of why this is the best dad ever.

She tries to open the window and it's like jam shut and tiny. And she manages to open it like a foot and just stick her little face out. And she goes, not happy, Jan! It is. I mean. That is just incredible. It's like, how could any ad be better? So good.

And it's easy now because obviously everyone for for all of life in australian culture ever since has said not happy jan yes to you know convey a sense of dissatisfaction yes or just to let loose at a party um but when you originally like kind of go back to wet what that is you know it's just so good it's so so good. That woman running for life. Running. I love when she's like going down the internal stairs as well. Like echoing. Just beautiful.

To live in a suffocating office environment. To be a woman. To be a woman in a car. To not be happy. No. Well well do you relate now more to the boss wow having been both jan and jan's boss which do i relate to more i mean unless you're like ceo of the world there's always a boss not being happy with you somewhere. Oh, what? Yeah.

That's why I'm unemployed. My only boss are the people of Australia. I do it all for them. You know? And if they're not happy, I'm not happy. You know? I'll work overtime to please them. Really?

Yeah. Do you know what song, you know what ad I have cried in? Oh. The Qantas ad. Oh, my. You know? I've been to cities that never- That one?

No. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's so emotional. Oh. From New York to Dunn and all London town. Famously, we recreated that ad for COVID times. Yes.

It's quite good. Brave, important and brave. We wore big shirts. Yeah. Yeah. Oh God, I love that Qantas ad. It's good. Big shirts or flat wigs.

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commercial um which was one of my clients later after they'd done that but um i remember every drag queen in melbourne was auditioning for that, which was about two drag queens going to Broken Hill. Cause they couldn't say anything that referenced Priscilla, but they could soft, soft nod to it. Evoke sequins in a desert. And I remember me and Baby Slut went to audition and like, you see the ad now and it's like,

film a box who's like a queen of the's like an like queen of the melbourne scene like like kind of legendary queen who looks like a drag queen's drag queen yeah like the perfect wigs and the sequined dresses and the makeup and then art who's like the young gun but like also similarly perfect and like that is very much priscilla. Then me and fucking Sabrina baby slut. Yeah, fucking Gizmo and the Dormio girl. Like truly sitting there being like, we're going to Broken Hill, babe. Oh, what's in the car? Oh, no, we've broken down at Broken Hill.

And then like everyone coming out of that casting room and all the other drag queens of Melbourne are there and we're like, well, art and film are here earlier today. And they're like, yeah. And we're like, well, shut it down. They've got it. Yeah. Funny.

God, that would have been such a well-paid gig. True. Imagine being on a national TV ad with with a speaking part that gets rerun. Speaking part. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we did a spotlight ad.

We do have a spotlight ad that is out there right now, actually. But no speaking parts. No, but we're doing our little dance. The costumes speak volumes. But every time it gets renewed we get paid a nice so good three grand or whatever divas if you can be a model in something yeah once do it but like it needs to be for a brand that doesn't make a lot of tv ads yes because that's the secret of that like i think if it would been for a brand that wasn't Spotlight, it would have probably lapsed by now.

But they've used it for four years. And we've made the same fee every time. It's incredible. For one day shoot. Love it. And we got to be in a caravan for some of that day. And speak with the fun makeup ladies. Yeah, I love that makeup lady.

Bitching about all the other women that she works with. Yeah. It's like, I love Cassandra, but... But, yeah. Get it? Tell us. Anyway, I think it is, without a doubt,

Yellow Pages. Yeah. What are we doing? Okay, my pitch for how it fits into the bunker is more. A small window. A small window in Oprah's office. Yeah. And Oprah is the boss.

Yes. And she gets to yell at sometimes at Courtney. Yeah. Oh, Courtney is very Jan. Jan is Courtney. Courtney is Jan. Yeah. And then occasionally, because I think the ad exists in the consciousness,

maybe it doesn't exist in actual form, but I think occasionally on the nanny set, they'll do like a reenactment on like a fake ad break that they'll have on the show. Yeah. And it's all just not happy Jan. Yes. And Minnie Mouth Vacation. Oh, okay.

Which is also in there. Is Brian Drescher the woman? Yeah. I can see her in a Norwegian forest terrifying a small child. Ugh, little Gracie. Yeah. Oh my God, that ad would go off. You can't tell me that ad wouldn't go off.

It would go off the air. Matt, would you buy chocolate after watching Chey little mini mouth vacation maybe after the last one i think that i mean i've seen the whole series i'll be like okay i'll give it a try i think it's just that the brand probably doesn't want to be associated with being the cause of someone losing their job. That's how good it is. And destroying their lives. That's how good it is. And ending up a witch in a forest. I mean, darling, what a dream. I mean, true. It's got all my favorite women.

Little girls who are Norwegian, witches in forests. And office ladies. And office ladies. Yeah, you know what? I think it's like, you know, it's so good it destroys your life is like such a strong marketing premise. It's like, wow, this chocolate is so good it's destroying people's lives. Because like the strength of the cheeky mini mouth vacation.

And we're going into a recession. So you kind of need ads that speak to this idea of escapism. Yeah. You know, when you can't, when you can't afford a flight, you can always take a cheeky mini mouth vacation for $1.25. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, small window. You're in. You're in. I love it.

Bye bye. Take it off! What? We're going on vacation! I got my bags packed. Put them in the overhead. I ordered a vegetarian meal. I got to watch the notebook on the plane. Landing.

Is it every bite is its own vacation? No, it's a single pip. Oh, yeah. I guess every pip would be a different vacation. But you only see her go through one. Yeah. So if you have a whole block, that's like a real world trip. That's right.

Cheeky little Minnie Mouth vacation ready to transport you at any time, day or night. Okay. No matter where you live, even in the Norwegian forest, the deep craggy well. Okay. Dick! Up next for discussion. Now, this is kind of a continuation, listener. You'll remember many moons ago,

we discussed what type of street goes into the bunker. And we chose... Court, right? Did we choose court? I'm pretty sure we did court. What a great choice. I'll check the graph while we discuss our next topic, which will inform the name of the street,

being which girl's name, goes into the bunker. Yeah. Name of the court. Which girl's name. Yeah. Which of the court. Which girl's name? Yeah. Which girl's name? Which girl's name?

Okay. Matt, why don't you take us away? So you have women. You have women. What do you call them? Me? What do you mean? Who do you mean?

My partner. Oh, yeah. Oh, sure. My daughter. Well, okay. Well, maybe. My daughter. Well, okay. Well, maybe you don't have to reveal if you don't want to. I have. What do you mean?

I have women. Well, what are you? We're talking about women's names. Do you have any favorites? I thought the two closest to home might be a good place to start. Well, he didn't pick their name. Oh, one of them he did. That's right.

Good women's names. I have no idea. Oh, my God. I don't know anyone else called a woman's name. Okay, well, that's enough out of you, Matt. Yeah, I'm just going along for the ride today. I'm not really contributing. No, Abigail votes.

Sarah. Sarah. Sarah. Like Sarah Hyland, star of Modern Family. With a H or a S-R? No, definitely a H on there. You've got to have the H. What was it?

Sarah. Is it girls? I have friends named Sarah, but I think. I guess, you know, like we went through a lot of girls' names before we named our. Okay, that's good. This is interesting. But we came up with Cedar, which is...

Not what I would say is necessarily... Typical. Yeah. What are you looking for in a girl's name? Well, as a gay man, I like a woman's name that's like Brunhilde. Anastasia. Brunhilde. Jemima.

Yeah. I think these are funny names. Esmeralda. Yes. Like that's fabulous to say. Martha. So like old fashioned-y kind of. Yeah.

Like things that could belong to a Norwegian crone. Yes. Yeah. It's interesting because we both got to choose our women's names for ourselves. I chose Zelda, a beautiful woman's name. And you chose Lazy, another beautiful woman's name. Lazy. Your woman's name is Susan, really.

Lazy is an adjective. No, that's not true. Or is that your first name? It's my first name. Last name Susan. Yeah. Well, still a woman's name. Are you name Last name Susan Yeah Well still a woman's name Are you new here?

Oh my god Still a woman's name Lazy Lazy No Susan What? That's my last name Yeah yeah

But it's still a woman's name So it could be But we're doing first names Susan Street Susan is a fabulous name It's so funny Susan is good Because it's so blunt

Yeah Susan Susan Like That's the thing There's two types There's like the Esmeraldas And then there's like blunt Like Trish

That's fabulous Susan in this movie I can't really spoil it too much But there's like a woman There's a woman in this movie called The Substance Which I saw last night, which was incredible. Everyone goes to see it before. The gays are going to fucking live for this film with Demi Moore.

But there's a bit where a woman has to make up a name for her new model name. And she walks into the casting director's office and she's standing there in this sexy bikini in front of them. And they're like, well, what's your name? And she's like, I'm this like sexy bikini in front of them and they're like well what's your name and she's like i'm sue and they're like sure like it's the most extreme and cool thing that's ever been said and that's fabulous sue yeah so i use your full oh sorry i'm just going back to susan yeah um because I was looking up the origins of the word, the name Susan. Lazy Sue.

So it's a short form of Susanna. Oh, no, I'm not a Susanna. Oh, Susanna. You're not a Lazy Sue either, I guess. Lazy Sue. I do get Lazy Sue a bit. Because Susanna means lily. Oh.

So you're a lazy lily. A lazy lily. Lily with two Ls. Lily. So you're a lazy lily. A lazy little lily pad. Lily with two L's. Lily. Delicate like a flower. Like a lily. I am like a British rose. Hyacinth.

Anyway. But no, I think I like something to have a bit of like a bit of grit to it. What about Effie? I do like Effie. What about my favorite diva of TikTok, Paloma Diamond? Paloma. Paloma. That's good.

I mean, yeah, it's good. I like old-fashioned names that like in new world context are like cunty yeah yeah can you give me an example and use it in a sentence well famously i want to call my daughter persephone so is that like ancient great kind of vibe i wish that that's the origin matt I wish that's where she got it from. Where'd she get it from? What?

Persephone. Persephone? Persephone. Where did I get that from? Yeah. Oh my God, from Monica Bellucci's character in The Matrix. Obviously. What?

Yeah. So love that. Yeah. So you now use it in a sentence. Oh, Persephone, dinner's ready. One more sentence. Persephone, what time are you arriving? I've been waiting.

Is that the kind of motherhood you're going to be? Oh, well, no, that's me talking to my close personal friend, Persephone. Oh, okay. She survived through teenage years somehow. Yeah. So your child. Oh, my child. How will you speak to them? Oh

Seffy Seffy is cute I like that Yeah Persephone I see that you've said that three times five is actually sixteen Are you stupid? Yeah That's good, okay Persephone 16. Are you stupid? Yeah.

Do it again. That's good. Okay. Persephone. Of course, I'll say that you can't attend the swimming day at school. Are you going to be allied? Yeah. Oh.

Yeah. No, I'll be like, you've got to go, darling. I can't have you being socially ostracized. Oh, my God. I need you to be popular. Think of my standing in the parents committee. Now eat your cake. Do it for mummy, Persephone.

Yeah. Don't embarrass me, you little bitch. You little hog. Yeah. What about, like, Ginny? I hate that. Yeah, I don't like that. No, I about, like, Ginny? I hate that. Yeah, I don't like that. No, I think, like, yeah, the names that I hate, like, are too tossed away.

But I think we need to get back to parents giving ugly names to children. You know? Like, I feel like a lot of our new parents, like, won't give, like, names like Daryl to their kids yeah i'm like why not some people's like someone's gonna have a daryl in this generation exactly greg and then they won't be called that and they'll be called like ace or like you know like some fucking Like nice like not nice but like Some kind of like Little indie boy name and they'll be a Greg For their whole life and never understand

Why they don't fit in When their name should have been Greg But instead it's like Jet Jet or yeah like Hunter Hunter So it's like there's a whole general Yes it's like you can't like What are. Yes. It's like, you can't like, what are we fucking doing here?

They think that by calling their son Hunter, they're guaranteed like a hot, thoughtful, you know, hipster. But instead we're just going to have a bunch of. If you get an accountant called Hunter, it's like,

just give in. Yeah. That was meant to be a Daryl. Yeah. Do you encounter a lot of shitty names now that you're going to parents clubs and stuff? Yeah, there's definitely some funny ones that I wouldn't have picked Like that I've never even heard of before Can you give me an example?

I don't want to say any and then someone listen What about winter with a Y? Yes I like winter See, I also teach at like a sort of Steiner-y primary school Yeah And there are a lot of sort of, you know, Solea and Yeah

You know, like poetry kind of names Your only issue is when the name is more interesting than the person, I think. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. If it just happens that you have a cool name and you end up cool, that's just fine. But it's almost kind of more hot to be the Greg who ends up being, you know.

Hot Greg. Yeah. Yeah, there is this one little boy in prep who already walks around with aviator sunglasses on. Wow. And his name's Vander, and he wears a leather jacket too. And I feel like he's trying to grow into his name a little bit. Yeah, he's aspiring to be a Vander.

I'm trying to sculpt something there. Yeah. Yeah, giving a little boy aviator sunglasses. I'm like, I don't want my little son to look like a date rapist. I think, yeah. He's in prep. He's not thinking that yeah yeah exactly so pushing that identity onto him and like teacher leaves the room and watches her takes a drink with her comes back and throws out the coffee sorry i saw those aviator sunglasses i'm fucking disturbed i wish you were just wearing a knitted sweater with a smiley face on it like everyone else.

Yeah. Yeah. But I like little names like Gretel. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. These are all sort of European kind of names. Like. Yeah.

You're like the Norwegian girls. Well, you know, my friend in Norway just had her child and I kind of, what did she call her son? It was like the most Norwegian name ever. And I was like. Spookle. Yeah, like it's like, oh, I need to find the name. It's so good. Has she posted about her baby yet?

Maybe she hasn't. Baby. Perhaps I should respect that and not tell the name. But it's so fabulous because it is like Borshket, not the Russian version, but like, yeah, Upta. That's true. There's a whole untapped world of international names. I know, we really are.

Like tidy, whitey names. Like I love, like my nonna's name is Margarita. Yeah. Rita. Love a Margarita. Yeah. You think it should have a few syllables probably. That might narrow it down a little bit.

I was complaining about having a one syllable name just before. Yeah. It's really awkward to project a one syllable name okay i also think like because it just sounds like hey yeah yeah i always have to say matter matter yeah because whenever someone's like what's your name for the coffee order i'm'm like, Matt. And they're like, Matt? May? Yeah. Max? But you're Matthew.

Yeah, I would say Matthew. I wouldn't ever say Matthew, though. I would just say Matt. Matt. Matt. Really aggressive. I think there's a good thing about how, and I know I was just saying like the Susanna thing of it all,

but like I think there is something good about giving your kid the whole name and then they can cut it up however they want later in life because susanna can become anna or suze or susan or whatever but i think it's like and you give your kid the the already whittled down version of the name then it's kind of like you fucked it like i'm robert so i can be Rob, Bert, Bertie, Robbie, whatever. Bertie? Bob. Bob, yeah. Bobby.

Bobby, it could be Bobby. Bobby Drake. And that's good. I just don't imagine you as a Bobby at all for some reason. Bobby's kind of like too cool for me, I think. Really? I think Robbie has the right amount of... I feel like Bob is more like And Bobby is more old fashioned

Bob is the guy My friend's dad Who used to run like a mobile phone shop In Fentry Gully That's right Or a mechanic Yeah So

Bobby Bob But maybe I'll age into those different names But I've always been Robbie Like my parents never didn't call me Robbie But It's just It's good to have the option so what's your full name Kane just Kane yeah Kane Kane Kane and that would be the original

murderer okay okay we're using that wait come over for some canel tonight No That's right It used to be like canis Who was saying that to you? But that wasn't like an insult That was like a

Like a term of affection Yeah Maybe you were being insulted Was it? Oh my god Who was calling you canis? I don't know Not? I don't know Not consistently

I don't know I'm not really a nickname kind of person And this is why Cano Cano Cano My uncle would call me Cano And some like weird straight people that didn't understand

Cano Cano Robo Mate But yeah I'm cursed with such a Bogan name Yeah, it's chic It's like the name of like Oh, it's biblical

Rattan furniture Is that made out of cane? It's a biblical name It's not Bogan Yeah, but it's not spelt biblical I like my spelling I like a K If I was C-A-I-N

I'd kill myself But Yeah, kind I like a K. If I was C-A-I-N, I'd kill myself. But yeah, kind of like a gray area. At least it's not. If it was K-A-Y-N-E, I'd be unemployed. So that's a blessing. But I'm sure everyone's seen Bubblegum Crisis, or more specifically, Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040.

And one of my favorite characters in that priscilla everyone calls priss and i think priss is such a cool name because that's that like you're cursed with like an oldie fashion name but you're secretly a lightsaber in tokyo 2040 taking down rogue boomers and everyone calls you priss piss and that's so cool that's the thing i hear that and then i'm like that's great if you're in 2049 that's 2040 2040 sorry nine years i mean she does age she does age nine years yeah um but the the issue is ya disease where it's like you know how in a ya novel everyone has like the oh like what's that baby's name renee's name yes like everyone's kind of got like interesting names yeah and i'm like in reality that's not true like not everyone is a primrose or a yeah yeah yeah bella and edward

you know like it's there's like too much interesting name disease Yes So you don't want Yeah I think For our bunker For new names You know we want to make sure that like

We kind of give them something that That can be worked around in the bunker How about Bunky? What about Bunker Bunker Bung Bung in the bunker um how about bunkie what about bunker bunker apocalyptica um i like just on that um so george rr martin like writer of like a story of fire and ice like gamma thrones and stuff has this like incredibly expansive history to the world that he's created and has populated it through like hundreds if not thousands of years of lineage and families and all that stuff and this now i know you know this but house of the dragon is like a prequel like set maybe like 200 years before game of thrones at a time where like it's really interesting like there's a lot of like political

things happening and that's why that show exists in that time frame but there's this family that is loosely in the story and at the time 30 years ago when george was writing all of this. He named them all like Kermit, Elmo and... Piggy? Other? I don't know, the other one. Fozzie? No, Kermit, Elmo and... Big Bird?

I don't know. Count? Just like in there because he's like, I don't know, I like Sesame Street and I needed more names. And now that the show exists, it's quite funny because those characters haven't been like, hey, Elmo, come over here. Because they have these stupid names.

Amazing. They don't really fit alongside, you know, like Melisandre or whatever. Yeah. But I think that's quite good. There's only so many names. There's only so many names. And only one needs to be crystallized in the bunker

Yeah Okay Crystal? Oh my god Strip a name My friend almost got called Crystal Crystal And her mother was like

I came this close to calling you Crystal But now Crystal is just your middle name And her first name is Jasmine Jasmine Crystal. Yeah. That's so good. Oh. Oh.

I want to ask the last name, but it feels inappropriate on the air. Yes. But I imagine it's like Jasmine Crystal Evergreen. No, because it was her dad's last name, was it? No, it isn't. No, it's a lie. No. Yeah. It's a lie. Yeah, it's tricky.

Well, I don't know. A woman's name. A woman's name. Jan? Jan. Well. Jan Sport has kind of claimed it so much. I know.

But I like January. January. January is a great name january jones yes i knew a hot bartender called august when i worked in bars oh see that's that's an interesting boy's name that's like you can't be an accountant called august no but he was like And is, I imagine, still. Just, like, hot, like, in bands, is cool. What names haven't been, like, what months of the year haven't been named? So, May, that's done. Yeah. October.

Maybe October is a good one for a boy. And for our Halloween-themed bunker. Okay, okay, okay okay i'm like gonna put my weight behind something like a an esmeralda or um like a like yeah hegbort hegbort famously one of my favorite names maybe hegboard hegboard okay so listener very quickly the final beastie girl show that we did before the very very end was a halloween show at the beast and as was tradition we would do like you know an intricately complicated performance. And there was one where I played a witch called Hegbort and Lazy and Benign played little trick-or-treaters called Polly and Pinch. Polly, another great name.

Pinch, also a great woman's name. But Hegbort is one of my favourite. A recurring character in the Zelda cinematic universe. Exactly. And I can't wait to play her again. Yes. You really do inhabit the role. Yes.

Comes so naturally. Pass. Okay. Hague-bought court. Three, two, one. Hague-bought. Okay. Oh, that's such a relief.

So all new women born into the bunker will be named Hague-bought. Okay. Okay. Good. In honor of their queen, the celestial goddess Zelda Moon. Yes.

We saved you from the bear. The bear? Season three? Out now? Okay. Okay. Bye. Asulengyor, we have returned.

It is now time for the final round of this Death to Everyone. Zelda Moon, what are we doing? Well, you know all about this. We're putting in our favorite has-been. Has-been Oh, well, we of course talked about the guy from the Genericans The guy that became Christian and was saving up all his tears last week But he's not going to get in because he

Not that I don't want my has-been to be creepy Because I think that that's a really great attribute for a has been. Yes. Um, but he doesn't have necessarily the level of fabulosity. Like I kind of need that career to have been somewhat fabulous, like, or they need to have brushed the heights and he just kind of didn't.

And he did a prank show, which is the devil's work. Yes. No, not that. Did you know, speaking of, I mean, not in a bad way, right? Like, has been kind of sounds a bit mean, and we would never be mean. No. But I, like, when I think of Jennifer Garner. Yeah.

Here's my story. Obviously, like, she got cast and, and like was announced early in like Deadpool and Wolverine marketing like years ago, which was weird. And at that time I was like, huh, Jennifer Garner. Don't think about her much anymore. And then it came out and we saw how her face was covered with her wig most of the movie anyway. And then. That is so. Sorry, we keep coming back to that. But like the, like why that you and Teresa Problem came out of that movie and were like, her face was covered with it.

I didn't even notice at all. Why didn't I notice? I don't know. It was annoying because she looked great. But maybe she just wanted to have like choppy bangy hair i think like i mean it was definitely by design yeah because like in all of the um so further to my story like on her socials she's posted like a lot of like getting fit for um the role and all this stuff which i'm sure she was fit anyway but you know like marvel fit um and she looks so good but then she every time she's in

costume like all the hair is in front of her face so i think it was just like a wig styling choice but i don't understand it anyway my point is can you be a has-been when you have like 14.2 million followers i don't think you can. Why are people following Jennifer Garner? Because she's got a lifestyle brand. But that's crazy. I thought she was a has-been, but she's not. No. No.

No, I think Jennifer Garner falls into like quietly like doing her thing. She's still very wealthy. She would still get papped. Like that's kind of not has-been enough i i thought that she was and then i i was quite mistaken no i think has been is like the fire has died people don't really care that much and i think it is even distinct from like meltdown like where everything went wrong like i think it's like like lindsey lohan and and um amanda bines i would consider to not be i mean lindsey's where everything went wrong. Like, I think it's like Lindsay Lohan and Amanda Bynes, I would consider to not be, I mean, Lindsay's obviously back,

but like Lindsay, Britney, all these girlies that like had very public meltdowns, like even in their meltdown, they were still famous. And I think the thing about a has-been is that like no one cares. And so they're having their like meltdown like i would say aaron carter rip was much more in the has-been vibe because he was having these very like tumultuous times and it wasn't really making front page news it was just like oh well yeah you know totally yeah so i kind of proffer like i love i mean to me a Disney Channel has been is like the like height of has been them because you do have that like very early success so the by the time

you're a has been you're still like in your 20s you know yeah and so it's like you touched the sky and now you're washed up by're washed up by 22. Yes. Oh, I love that. And you've got the rest of your life to be a has-been. You've got a good 50 years left of has-been. Oh, my God. So like Zeke from Wizards of Waverly Place, Dan Benson, who now does OnlyFans.

And he was doing a talk on TikTok the other day and was explaining how he fell after that show and being on Wizards of Waverly Place for three seasons and how after that happened, he just was like, I could never quite get cast in anything again. And then the money ran out and i had to get a regular job um so i just think that there's something quite chic about that and then like he's kind of rebounding though and turning himself into a new personality i think that like that has hit

an important part of has been done is that you can't continue to live off of your previous successes. So like maybe like Ashton Kutcher, famed from The Faculty. He's not in The Faculty. Oh, who am I thinking of? Josh Hartnett. Josh Hartnett. Josh Hartnett is my example. Like he's still in movies, but maybe not like The Faculty. Not the heights of the faculty um so like isn't

as popular anymore but he's still that's by choice he chose to be a husband i love it because he stepped away he was like i've done it i'm not doing this anymore that's so good i can't deal but do you know what i mean it's like if you had to become like a like a yeah check out like a regular person yeah so you can't be a has-been if you're not regular now do you know the kind of best has-been that is now and is now what do you call the opposite of a has-been um but rupaul like when rupaPaul hit her heights in the 90s and got like, you know, her MTV talk show and was the face of Eva LeBlanc

and like was everywhere in the culture and supermodel of the world was like a chart topping hit. And then the like motion just slowed down around the 2000s and it was like, oh, you remember RuPaul? And it was like, she couldn't get that same work anymore. I don't think she ever had to like work retail again or anything. But I think it was like real tough times for a while there. And like she sold the publishing rights to Supermodel of the World,

which is why you never hear it on Drag Race. Like all this shit. She should buy that back actually. Yes. Why doesn't she? I wonder. I guess she just has other songs. Yeah.

Like she's just like paved over it enough. Yeah. But it would be so good to have Supermodel of the World. Mm-hmm. Do they do it? Cover girl. No, different. Put that bass in your what?

Head to toe. That's not that. No. Yeah. Supermodel. Work. Now turn to the left. Now work.

Yeah, you never hear that song. No, correct. You're correct. Checking out your savoir faire. I think there should be more looking good, feeling gorgeous. Looking good and feeling gorgeous. Just. These are all real songs, Matt.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, and like, but I mean, like, obviously she's rebuilt her career and eclipsed her earlier success. Yeah. But that is so chic that like she really really touched the bottom for a second. Yes. Goddamn, made it all the way back. I used to think that the hierarchy of acting, at least screen acting,

was maybe ads, TV, and then film yeah and for a film actor to then go and do a tv show yes was like the boat like oh you fucking loser freak yeah you pathetic you're never coming back from that's it yeah But that has changed so much. Yes. Which is, I think, quite a positive. It is good. But it's so interesting. That has been. Yeah, you know. Okay.

There's this girl who played the best friend on Raven. That's her, Raven. Annalise vananderpoll or whatever and then she was cast in the reboot raven's home because i would argue that raven is also a husband is that as in raven's home like she's here or like it's about her home it's both dual meaning so it's in in Raven's home. Yeah. But it's like, oh, she's coming back to Disney Channel, Raven's home. Oh, so okay, yeah.

Like Raven's back. In the house. But she's also back on Disney. And then there is a physical home. There's a home. Wow. Where she is raising her kids. What?

Because she's the mum now in the new show because she's now in her late 30s jesus and um 40s or whatever but she's raising her kids and annalise vanderpoel is raising her kids and they're both single moms and they're like kids are being raised together in the same home um which is fabulous but then in season two they ditched that storyline and had Raven move across the country with her kids. And they ditched this other woman who was like the best friend, the quirky best friend. And then that other woman has spent

all the rest of her time on TikTok being like, wait until you hear the tea about what happened to me. But she's got this like, she still has like Disney main player energy. Like she's got the crazy eyes. Oh, she's got this like she's she still has like disney main player energy like she's got the crazy eyes oh she's ashley extain she's she's seen things and she's like hi guys it's me ashley vanderpool and this is what i think and blah blah and then she's like listen i've done a lot of things in my life and then she like always like lists off the things that she's done and she's like i was in a hit tv show which was raven's home i mean that's a raven yeah and then she was in like a touring production of beauty

and the beast and she brings them up constantly yeah and um yeah she's just got like the right energy. She's still got her like head just above water. And people are getting angry at her on TikTok for like always teasing that she has more tea about Raven and everything. But she never like spills it. But she like brings up the beef in every single TikTok. And she's like so bitter but smiling. And she also is like, that show was originally for me.

I was like auditioning to play the lead and I was like shortlisted and I did the pilot episode, not with Raven. Like Raven was the best friend. It was called like Psychic Trouble or something. And then the audience tested the original series and they were like, nothing is working here except that best friend is popping.

And then the guy was like, fine, we'll restructure the entire thing and make it the Raven show. And then it became That's So Raven. It's the future I can see. That's so mysterious to me. Yeah, that's me. Raven's home. That's me Raven's home That's so Raven's home Well, she sounds like a great has-been

I just think like Bitter and twisted Like bitter I love bitter Yeah, I think like quietly has-been No, because then you're kind of classy Some people will be paying attention. So at least you could do a show for them.

Yeah. Like if Holly Valance was really annoyed that she's a has-been. She's a has-been. She is. But I wish she was more publicly annoyed by that. Well, you know, she's just on different, you know, networks now that she's a super conservative. She's conservative?

Mama. Oh. She is a climate denying what yes she's married to this british real estate millionaire all these things about all these random boring people you know about the acolyte and the thousands of years of history and the songs of snow and blood and i know about holly valance and her rich real estate boyfriend. Okay, we have our lives. Okay, we have our bits. Yeah, go on.

Anyway, she married this real estate fucking gajillionaire in the UK, immigrated, and is now like the most conservative piece of shit on like conservative podcasts talking about like how when they talk about global warming in classrooms to her precious children like that it's scary for children and upsetting and so they shouldn't do it oh my god and then they have some trolls up there explaining how gender doesn't exist and it's really scary well they're in the uk a lot of them are trolls oh have you i know we only ever talk about JK Rowling on this podcast. Oh my God. Did you see?

The moldy house? The mold. So what is, I'm sure you know the details. What the fuck is going on there? Just that they were like, I don't know if you've heard about this, Matt. I have. I've seen it. Just that there's videos of JK Rowling addressing,

I don't know, she must be in an interview or something. And then in the background you can see that like her house is fucking moldy and people are like yes which I guess she lives in like a Scottish castle so mold is probably

constant but fuck me that's so funny and then people have been making all this content about like JK talking to the mold wall. Like the mold wall convincing her to be a TERF. Yeah. But yeah, maybe her whole brain is just spores.

Yes. Fuck, that's so diabolical. So funny. I love, like that's just, people are going to be dining out on that fucking moldy wall behind her for the next 10 000 years years also that's so creepy like it's so insidious mold it's so like speaking of jk i saw my nephews uh last weekend which was lovely. But they proudly have seen every Harry Potter movie and the first two Fantastic Beasts movies,

but not the third one because it's too scary. Oh, what? Apparently. Loser. And they understandably, as we did, love Harry Potter. And they were asking if I could get them hogwarts legacy for christmas um cheeky little bastards anyway um yeah and i was like huh i mean i purposefully didn't buy that game to like there was this whole discourse about hogwarts legacy because when it was like

really at peak like hype before it came out and stuff, it was a really dark time for the TERF-isms of the world. And the game developers did a lot of work to clearly state that they didn't support fucking JK and her twisted views on it. Moldy brain. Yeah. And that they were like,

we have a really diverse game development team here, and we aren views on it. Moldy brain. Yeah. And that they were like, we have a really diverse game development team here, and we aren't assholes. Please play our game. We love the world created, but obviously not the creator. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, how do I instill that into my 11-year-old nephews

at Christmas time? Well, yeah, you should force them to watch a whole presentation. I'll be like, I'll buy it for you, but only if you aren't TERFs. Maybe they don't get it. Maybe they're not allowed. In a couple of years. Yeah.

I was like, until I can explain to you why paying the money for this is complex, you're too young for the game. Maybe you can get a secondhand copy just to obfuscate any profit going to jk but i mean i say that we're kind of doing the same thing here where we talk about her every fucking i don't think that we're i think every time we talk about her we're diminishing her her legacy and making sure it stays a little bit more mold grows yeah i think we always make sure that people know where we stand on this issue. It's probably a good time to say that portion of your Patreon support,

we do send a monthly spore-filled letter to JK's house. We do spend a lot of money on spores. Yeah, we send them to a lot of our enemies' houses, actually. Yeah, but do rest assured that that is. Yes, your Patreon money will be going to fighting crime Yeah The spores The spore crime

Ah, yes Well, that has-been from Raven sounds bitter and twisted Yes And quite good Okay I suppose it's like a lot of sporting has-beens Because the body only lasts so long Truly

Do you know what? Someone was talking to me the other day No, someone was talking to me yesterday I suppose it's like a lot of sporting has-beens because the body only lasts so long. Truly. Do you know why? Someone was talking to me the other day. No, someone was talking to me yesterday about being invited to this fabulous party. Number one, if you have a celebrity interaction story, I love to hear them. It's so exciting. But anyway, this person who was in LA for their work

and they were at this work thing and they have quite a cool job and they got invited by the guy who they were having the meeting with and he's like, hey, do you want to come to this intimate party tomorrow while you're in LA? Just enjoy yourself. And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So then they get the invite email and it's like the barbie book launch like the margo's outfits from the tour of barbie and it's like 10 days before the oscars and they're going to this intimate party in la so when they get there

it's like wall to wall celebrities like and they're like just you know fun time gals from melbourne like not celebrities and the whole night there's like margot being like the most sensational fabulous person and this gal that i was chatting to was like i had to get so drunk because i wanted to speak to margot um because the guy i was with is like let's go and have a chat like go and say hi and i was like no no no no and he's like we'll get you drunk and then we'll go and take you over to see like margo just so you feel like comfortable enough to do it anyway so she does finally get into like a place where she's like okay i'm ready to go yeah by that point margo had already gone oh yeah so then she was but like the guy's like sorry about that and then she's like no that's fine and then she

was like scanning the room and she's like i'm'm going to take my next shot. And she sees Channing Tatum. Oh, my God. And she's like, okay, that's my next mark. She walks over, taps him on the shoulder, and he's like, hello. Then he's like, hello. And then she's like, I just want to say you're so good in comedies. Like you should do more comedies. You're very, very funny.

And then he held both of her hands in his, like a magic man that he is, and said, thank you. You don't know how much that means to me. And then his fiancée, Zoe Kravitz. Said, back off. No, she was like, sorry, babe. Get to the point. And then he turned to her and was like, I'm sorry.

I'm Channing, by the way. And she was like, uh. And then he was like, and what's your name? And then they left. And there was one woman who was greasing her off the entire time this interaction was taking place. Who was like, you're not allowed in here. And it was Hailey Bieber. Who is the most active fucking never was has been piece of shit like

there's someone who's like raised by famous people amongst famous people who has always been in reference to famous people but is not famous herself for doing anything, Hailey Bieber, it just is like wild. That kind of has been energy. But you like never were. Yeah. Yeah. Like defiantly trying to keep others out of the heights even though they're not really where you occupy.

Like Channing Tatum is famous because he acts well in movies and is hot. What are you famous for? Hayley? Marrying Justin? No. Wow. Yeah. Well, listener, if you have a story about perhaps a cute animal interaction or a good stick that you found on a walk,

I'd love to hear those stories. And a celebrity interaction. Send them to me. But I think to me they go rated as followed. If you are meeting a celebrity, like the quality is important. It's like grading a Pokemon card. It's like this is slack tearing. Anyway, the quality is important it's like grading a pokemon card you know it's like this is like

anyway the quality goes for me if you see them in airport that is like pedestrian i don't really care about those celebrity interactions like i will still listen with bated breath and want to know what they were wearing and how they were seeming but like you're not really getting an insight into their personality because it's just in passing. And if you go up and talk to them and say hello, once again, I don't care because you've forced that interaction, whatever. But it goes up significantly if you are in like a working environment with that celebrity. That's like the next level up because you're seeing them in a space where they're being forced to interact with you as like a, like at least closer to equals than like stranger on the street. Then the higher level up then is if you're in like a intimate social setting with that celebrity where they have put down their guard and they're like

considering themselves amongst their peers. And that to me is like, I need to know everything about how they're behaving what they're, like who they're interacting with, like Hayley Bieber being gimpy and standing next to like Channing Tatum and Zoe Saldana Zoe Kravitz and being like

mad about it is like so funny, that tells you everything about what her life is like and how she interacts with her celebrity friends because she's like such a fucking loser that the thought that someone else comes up who's not part of the celebrity class, like makes her angry. Whereas Channing Tatum,

it makes him like, Oh, I'll have a conversation with you. You're here. But yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean,

my hierarchy is probably more like, um, maybe like the lowest is like an enclosed setting. Like you've interacted with a friend's pet in a house. Yeah. Then next is maybe like you've gone to a really, really like well thought out like sanctuary or like a zoo that has like a really great lens on like how it presents and takes care of its animals. blends on like how it presents and takes care of its animal and then the top tier is like a return animal that engages with you um through its own choice like a magpie like a magpie getting thrown moldy bread a carawang yeah frequently visiting your bird bath yeah yeah so those ones i can't wait to hear about yeah yeah with baited breath. What about you, Matt? Celebrity birdbath.

Oh my God. Maybe when I'm famous. That can be like my club night. Celebrity birdbath. It's a great name. Someone write this down. I'm writing that down literally right now. Celebrity birdbath. But I get $10 every time you use it.

Yeah. We'll send $10 worth of spores to JK Your donation is important to us For every $10 you spend with us here at Death to Everyone We spend an envelope with your name to JK Rowling And try and spore out her giant castle She has 150 rooms And we'd like to get them all done by the end of the year. I do.

I was thinking about those, like those like mushroom bags that you can get that you like cut a hole in. And then all of a sudden oyster mushrooms are just everywhere. It's like, but what if they, what if they get elsewhere and then mushrooms are just growing out of the walls? I don't know if I can handle the stress of that.

Well, thankfully, that doesn't seem to be something that's going to transpire. Oh, well. Yeah. But imagine the joy of cutting that bag and then having mushrooms. The joy of cutting your plaster and there's some mushrooms behind it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Annalise Vanderpoel, you are our has-been.

Is it really that? Yeah. Vanderpoel. Yeah. Just Raven. Raven's also a great has-been. She upsets me so. Her staunch wife.

Simone. Great. Yeah. Okay. So Vanderpoel, you're in. Yeah. staunch wife Simone great yeah okay so Van Der Poel you're in yeah I need to look up

what this woman looks like oh my god you're gonna love it she's redhead just quickly she's like got crazy face but she's so beautiful

but she looks insane and she's an amazing singer but she can't seem to get work as a singer oh no it's come up with Matthew Van Der Pol

who seems to be a very fit cyclist. It's Annalise. Fuck. Fuck. Annalise. That's a great name. One moment. Oh, ew.

How would you describe her, Zelda? Okay, she has... If she was blonde, she could have been a real girls of the playboy mansion girl. Yes. She's obviously stunning, but she has a real... Those eyes are wide. Like, wide. What does she know that you don't?

She's on edge about every part of her life. Yes. And I can see here that she's in a house that has like a framed picture on the wall that says Cape Cod with like some maybe like inspirational words around a shape. And that's very her. Yes. Yeah. Ooh, a demon.

Vanderpoll. That's great. Yes. So Vanderpoll, we have a small window that you can't really open all the way. The big prawn. For Oprah to utter an iconic line from. And then... Hagport.

Hagport. Hagport Crescent. It's canon. Okay, well, we've done it again. Matt, any reflections on those? It's a truly unique episode Really well done Thank you

Thank you Very good Beautiful work all around Really imaginative and creative No, seriously Now I feel like I'm being mocked I don't know, there was 100% honesty there Oh, good

Excellent I wonder if the bear being mocked. I don't know. There was 100% honesty there. Oh, good. Excellent. I wonder if the bear... Like, obviously, we have a bear in the bunker now. A bear in the bunker. A bear in the bunker. And a bear destroying the world. Yeah, but I think

they're quite unrelated. Yeah. Yeah, just saying. Different scales. Just in case anyone was worried about that. Yeah. I'd already thought about it.

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