Death To Everyone - Death To... Volver Women, Artworks & The Bristol Stool Chart

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello. Hello. Hello. Everyone. Oh, especially you. Hello. Hello. I can't hear myself.
Starting point is 00:00:26 I can't hear you at all Hi Oh no, there you are Hello Can I? Can you hear me? Yeah What a gift Hey
Starting point is 00:00:37 Listener Listener Welcome to death to everyone Speaking of hearing I met a guy recently Well, we met a guy Then I know quite well I met well
Starting point is 00:00:48 Okay so this Okay let me I'll lay out the story Please Really quickly Oh no I was at this friends of Runder event And there was a man
Starting point is 00:00:56 there that was telling me the story about how he went deaf in one ear, like, suddenly, just completely, like, turning on an awful light switch, and now he's permanently deaf in that ear, and he was like, I was watching Mastership, and it just went. And I was like, the last thing you ever heard out of that God-given ear was Mastership. And he was like, yeah. And the doctors have just been like, we're not going to give you a hearing aid until you adjust, and then we'll give you a hearing aid, and you might get some of the hearing back. We were just to what being deaf?
Starting point is 00:01:28 Yeah. Anyway, but this guy was so interesting because we had like met at this previous event two years ago. And I was like, where do I know that guy from? And then I realized that we'd been chatting on Grindr before that, maybe like three years before that. And I'd been like, oh my God, this guy is a director. And like, I was like, that's so cool. Imagine like dating a director. And, like, you know, I think we were always on the precipice of about to meet up.
Starting point is 00:02:00 And then it just never happened. And now come to find he watches Mastership. Absolutely not. God. Close call. Spared that one. Yeah. So thank God.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Oh, thank God. Yeah. Sorry, Jeff. Yeah. Anyway, I found a real man. And my name's Zelda Moon. Oh, yeah. I'm Lazy Susan.
Starting point is 00:02:26 And this is Death to Everyone, our weekly podcast, where we have done it and continue to. The hard work, that is, of saving the best of the best that this human race has to offer. And we've preserved it after the apocalypse in a doomsday bunker. And each week of this podcast, we add more things. Yeah. Because we're kind. Kind of a bit. Kind of what?
Starting point is 00:02:54 And so we're also joined here every week. week by our dear producer matt space car driver matt and you've never called me dear hello dear not your face dear dear in the sense that if I hit you I'd just speed up to make sure I didn't swerve off the road in the kind of dramatic fashion well which accident do you want to avoid yeah oh no I'm not going to tell another tidbit this close because you know this is a second episode which means we're going loopy wait no what's your stupid story saying that right now about a man that got capsized under a boat off the coast of Nigeria, I think it was.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Whoa. And he was on the toilet. The hole is middle of the night. No, early morning. Boat gets capsized by a freak wave. Oh. And then everyone's trying to get out of the boat, but there's suddenly everything's upside down.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Wait, but how big is the boat? In my mind. Tugboat. Oh, okay. Yeah. But like large enough that... Tug boats have a toilet on them? No, it's like big enough that it has rooms,
Starting point is 00:03:50 like an office, has like a sleeping quarters, that sort of thing. Like a yacht? No, bigger than a yacht. Oh. A tugboat is like... Have you not seen a tugboat recently? No. Okay, well, Diva.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Okay. Barbara Streisend. Both are getting bigger. Drives a tugboat? She's on a tugboat. What about her cloned dogs? No, they didn't make it. They weren't alive yet.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Yet to be the third or fifth time. But anyway, so it's the darkness, right? Yes. Still dark outside. All the electricity has gone off. They're in these flooded upside-down hallways with a slowly filling with water. and trying to find a way out but the doors can't open
Starting point is 00:04:28 because of the water pressure on the other side so they're all trapped and this man goes deeper into the like against his better instincts goes deeper into the up capsized boat away from the potential exit
Starting point is 00:04:41 and finds a life fest puts it on puts in the little light and then finds a little air pocket and then once he goes into this like little office he can't open the door because once again it's like jammed shut so he's in this like little air pocket in this office and slowly hears the sound of his co-workers stop in the
Starting point is 00:05:03 whole way outside as the boat slowly sinks and then he feels this huge jolt as it hits the bottom of the ocean oh my god which is 30 meters down and so he's in there and he realizes that he's like you know trapped essentially yeah and um then he finds a single can of coke in the freezing cold water well so chilled and um a small tin of fish and that is what he has sustains himself over the next three days where he's trapped and he opens up his skin would be so pruny i know that would be that would be it for me yeah but when he goes he manages to get the door open at one point and goes out and like is kind of looking but all you can find is the floating corpses of his co-workers in the darkness oh pitch black um anyway so then he hears um something above
Starting point is 00:06:06 it's a boat that leaves like a little beacon because they declared dead oh and then some scuba divers come on the third day and he goes out to try and find them in the murky brackish well not brackish salty water and he sees a light disappear into the valves of the ship and he can't go he's like trying to follow the scuba diver but he's holding his breath
Starting point is 00:06:30 and it's been three days he's also a week and so they're leaving and then he turns around and sees another light coming towards him and it's a scuba diver a second scuba diver and the scuba diver is retrieving
Starting point is 00:06:42 the bodies of his co-workers and then he like goes up and you can see the cam footage from the like I don't know vest cam of the scuba diver. You'd be so spooked. And the scuba diver sees, feels a tug on his leg.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Yeah. Turns around and sees this ghostly hand. Pruny hand. Pruny disgusting, caffeinated hand. And then he's like, oh, I found another one. And then the hand comes to life and grabs him. And then he's like, oh, wait, he's alive. And then they take him into the little air bubble of the tiny little office space.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Yeah. And then he, they're like, okay, you're like, you're like, you survived, but because you spent three days at this... You're too Rooney to come back up. We'd like to, but we can't even grab you. It's just too weird.
Starting point is 00:07:32 The text here, grooves. And so then they have to put him into a diving bell and depressurize him slowly. And then he has to spend two days in a depressurization tank. And then he survives. No injury, not even like, in too bad shape.
Starting point is 00:07:51 How was his skin? Well, not, well, the de-pruning is still, you know, a factor. That's another tank. It takes a, it takes a time. Essentially, you're at Korean sheet mask kind of level. Okay. And then a year later, after he's survived this incredible ordeal, him and his friend are driving across a bridge, and they get into an accident,
Starting point is 00:08:12 and they drive off the bridge into the water below. And he manages to get himself free. Yes. And then go back and swim. down and get his friend, and they both survive. Oh. And he says to the press after this obscene second, you know, thing that he feels like he has a spiritual connection to the ocean, like, that him and the water have, like, a connection.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Yeah. So now he works as a scuba diver. Wow. Bitch, I would never, ever. Come in the water again. Absolutely not. Wow. You know?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Wow. Cool. I want to see this footage. I'll send it to him. Please. A gift. Anyway. Yeah. Zelda, how have you been this week? Oh, good. Good. I have a silly little story. Go on. I got so. Stung by a bee, we heard. That's old news. Wait till you hear this one.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Spin us a fable, my dear storyteller. I have to get ubers sometimes to work because I start before public transport. And the other day, I got picked up by Olexander, who... No, Olegz, so cool. Yeah. Spelling it like that. But he spoke as if I were putting on a terrible Russian... accent. Like, but I believe it was his, like, I don't think it was an act, but he, you're like,
Starting point is 00:10:00 do the other one. Come on. Like, welcome to my car. And so I like, but, but actually, I get in the car. God is a legitimate. Yes. I get into the car and he's like, Hello, Kane. Would you like silence, radio, all. light conversation. I love it. I was like, oh, hello. Sounds like you're kind of man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Right to the point. And then before I could answer, he was like, there are complimentary drinks in pocket. Oh, this is like old school Uber. Yeah. I was like, oh, thank you. What were the drinks? Water. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:39 He's like, before we leave, I'd like to confirm destination. And so I said. And then I said, oh, just music is, music is fine. and so he played music and he was very friendly but it was like so weirdly like he was reading out like a script
Starting point is 00:10:58 but it wasn't but it was like how is this weather today yes yes I actually should have opted for conversation in hindsight but then we're like on the journey and about halfway through we like are at a traffic light
Starting point is 00:11:13 and there is a truck next to us on the left and Alexander is like getting the truck driver's attention he like pulls down the window and so does the other guy and he's like
Starting point is 00:11:26 your door is open the door in back of truck and the guy's like what and then he like jumps out at the light goes and like closes it and then this guy who was also really just like nice
Starting point is 00:11:43 like leans in and he's like Oh, thanks so much. And he's like, no problem. Too early, you need coffee. And the guy was like, yeah, I do. But thank you. Thank you. And then he got in the car and he drove away and we continued to drive.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I wonder if you, how you would, like, I mean, how you would handle living in a Slavic culture. Oh. Like, I think sometimes, like, I would do, like, sometimes I think I would do well. And then sometimes I think I'm too needy to live in a Slavic, like, because it's so withheld. Yeah. And I, like, I love how cunty they are. Yes. Like, hmm, so rude.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yeah. But then I'm like, eventually I tire of that and want someone to be like, sorry. When they accidentally, like, walk past me. Dude, I can't tell what, which I prefer. Yeah. Yeah. Because I do get pissed off when people are rude. Like, in Italy, people are so rude sometimes, but it's just their culture.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yeah. Isn't that funny? Yeah. But anyway, he was fabulous. And I thought I would tell the story again, because when I told that story about the guy who does, like, the lottery. Yeah. I had a friend message me who listens who was like,
Starting point is 00:13:00 I've been in his Uber. So. If you've been in Alexander's Uber. Alexander has taken you around. Was he hot? He was like, yeah, I'd go there. Yeah. Yeah, he was probably like 55, extremely average, but, like, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:15 know that when he was like 22 he like had it yeah that's a great yeah past prime is such a good juge yes yeah you're like charity yes i've been like the stakes are lower yeah i love the bullshit's over yes there's no games yeah straight to dick town yeah incredible it's good so that happened to me this week. Incredible. Yeah. How nice. How lovely.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Nice for some. Lovely. Do you think that when you say, lovely, people know that you're quoting that woman from the pancake barwa. Oh, I was. She a snatch game. Lovely. I can hold a fork and say, lovely.
Starting point is 00:14:06 You're of course talking about the illustration of a woman. Yes. Yes. You've got to hold the fork. You've got to put the fork up and down. I could put my pinky out. It's on a cog. And I use a lot of exclamation points.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Too many. It's weak. But my point is... Wait, no, wait, let me... Oh. Sexy Sally is so sexy. Recently, she put this into her blank. Now you're doing your snitch game.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Oh, yeah, okay. Well, I mean, I suppose the bit would just be too. Lovely. That's good. And the next one, would you say it again? Yeah. And maybe a third time. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:58 But you'd hold up the fork. And then what would you write on the card? Lovely, exclamation point. I think I would just only write that, but I would provide an answer. What would your nameplate say? That is a. difficult question. I wonder if she has a name. Bancake Parlor
Starting point is 00:15:16 Illustrated. A pancake parlor lady. Is she the mascot? I don't know. Yeah, she 100% is. Yeah. Lovely. Scientologist queen. Yeah, it's got that energy. Wait, what? They are Scientologists. Oh, my God. It's a gateway. Oh, well. Yeah. Lovely.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Speaking of men that I was romantically entangled with at certain points in my life. There was a guy that I was hooking up with for a second there who had just his aunt was a Scientology. and got him a job at pancake parlor and he was a manager there and they would actively try and like get you hooked on
Starting point is 00:15:51 pancakes and then Scientology. Cool. I love sci-fi. That's great. El Ron. El Ron. Which is just Spanish Harry Potter. Yeah. Well.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Anyway. Anyway. What was it going to say? No, I didn't think I had anything to contribute. Destroy the planet. The way the world dies today is, did you see that sinkhole in Bangkok?
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yes. Obviously, yes. Where was that sinkhole? I don't know, but yes. Jesus. It was crazy. That sinkholes, man, they're crazy. So cool.
Starting point is 00:16:34 So I'm going to say that the world randomly like finds itself under a sinkhole. Who's responsible? Moles? No, like it's a, it's a, it is Bangkok. It's just like the, the, the, the, the earth beneath has contracted because it's dried out. She's dry. She's dry. She's not pruning.
Starting point is 00:17:02 She's dry. So, yeah, suddenly there's a sinkhole. Oh, yeah. Cool. Yeah. And, and, and the, if anyone. we're fortunate enough to survive the collapsing. Into the chasm.
Starting point is 00:17:17 They don't make, like, chasm society. Everyone's dead. I don't want to rule out some mold people making a chasm society. Yeah, I think so it's kind of great. I suspect if the whole world chasmed at once, it would just be like, oh, we're just at street level again. Yeah. Because I would be like, oh.
Starting point is 00:17:33 So I think it has to happen in, like, pocked sections. And it's, like, happening again and again and again. Just like new chasms, new sing-coles on. sinkholes. Yeah. You know? Cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I think the most scary thing about sink holes is when it's like, that pipe shouldn't be open or like that electricity line shouldn't fall into that hole. Like it's not the hole itself. It's the things that shouldn't be down there. The combination. I would hate to fall into a sinkhole. I was, yeah. What if a car falls on top of me?
Starting point is 00:18:07 I know. And seeing the way that buildings like split apart where their foundation is removed? Oh, not nice. I like, I can't look away. Well, we'll be right back after this. Yeah. Welcome back, listener. Hello.
Starting point is 00:18:30 It's time. Ah, yes. Okay. So, okay, what's our first category, Zelda, man? Our first category for today is, which woman from the film Volvaire goes into the bunker so as part of my birthday celebrations this year
Starting point is 00:18:50 I knew that there's a new boutique cinema art house cinema in Collingwood Northside on Wellington Street so you hypothetically you could go and see a film
Starting point is 00:19:06 and then go and see another film at Wedd on Wellington so it has a Eames, wait was it, Eames blue, not Eames blue. Klein. Klein, Eves Klein blue, aesthetic. So white and blue is the vibe, but it's kind of like, I've been meaning to go there because they were like basically opened specifically for people like me because they're
Starting point is 00:19:30 like, we're just doing a mode of our retrospectives. Like that's what we're opening on the strength of and then we're having like new releases. So like, I'll just invite some pals and we'll go and see Volver like the kind of most famous a mode of our film at the cinema, Penelope Cruz. And then, like, you know, I've kind of done my job and also, like, potentially, you know, this place will get a bunch of new queer people to know where it is. I would go back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:00 So cute. It's cute. And do you know what I loved about it? It was comfortable. It was comfy. Yeah. And intimate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Like, it seems fun. I hope that they stay open. It seems like a fucking challenge. But yeah But when we got in there The film started And this Spanish language film Didn't have subtitles
Starting point is 00:20:20 And then we were all just sat there In this audience being like What And then some like 10 minutes later Some of Induction was like I'm sorry I'm just called the boss And we're just gonna sort it out Yeah
Starting point is 00:20:34 That was so stressed I loved it I was like I'd watch the whole thing With no subtitles What do I need to know What they're saying for? Like I'll get it Would you have
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah. You reckon you would have understood everything? I mean, I, no, absolutely not. But, like, that's fine. A famously simple plot. Hmm. So that was your first emotive? Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:56 What did you think? And it was my first cruise. Oh, you'd never seen a Penelope Cruz movie. I don't think so. What else is she in? Everything. Yeah. In Spain.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Yeah, no, I really, I was thinking it as I was watching it because I thought that she was more petite. Yeah. than she is um like she's tiny i just thought she was like she's got shiny tits she does but she was also like she was taller than her daughter yeah you know um in the film uh yeah but god she was is she not incredible oh and i like this movie was fantastic
Starting point is 00:21:35 so give a quick synopsis to the people oh no don't i was gonna ask you to do that because my one would be so bad. Well, that's what I'm excited about. Also, listener, Matt was there. I had fun. I sat next to Zelda. Yes. And Curgeon.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Zelda said she sat next to two of her favorite things, Matt and a wall. And I don't know where she's higher up on that list. Well, it oscillates. It is the issue of having quite a variety of different types of friends. Occasionally when you bring them all together, there's a lot of loud people and a lot of very quiet, shy people. Me and Zelda just sat in the corner. it's the two introverts and the rest of them
Starting point is 00:22:11 were all just laughing their head-offs, heads-off. But yes, Kergin wanted to share a chock top with me. I don't think I told you that, lazy. Wow. Just so you know. You were both licking at the same time. Huh? Who was getting the chop top-top?
Starting point is 00:22:26 Curgeon got it. Matt, you've got to do more prep. Matt, I didn't say it. Don't be that girl. Don't shit on my husband's dine. No, I... I politely declined out of respect for you, Lazy.
Starting point is 00:22:46 You believe I'd bring her into this? You were like, the second that his chock top touches my lips, it's over for their marriage, so I'll politely decline. I thought that that would be a slap in the face to you on your birthday. I would happily share a chock top with your wife. And do you know what? I don't think she would be happy about that. First time she could see what a tongue could do.
Starting point is 00:23:14 What? But we did share a box of popcorn. The lack of popcorn. Yeah. Luckily there was no surprise at the bottom. But, um... Yeah. No surprise at all.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Just a dick. Just another dick. Well, I'm glad to know that you have respected the bounds of my relationship. 100%. I thought it was very... very presumptuous that Coggins had suggested that. Well, he also bought me a separate chock top.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Well, he didn't buy me one. Meaning that money wasn't the issue. He was like setting you up. I know, and I think I passed the test. Well, you know, he listens to his podcast. Maybe he's built a parisocial relationship with you this whole time and he's just keeping me on the hook so we can get to you. Oh, my Lord.
Starting point is 00:23:59 You know, the vultures circling the carcass. Well, we did organise a coffee date while you're away, so. Oh, my God. We're going to catch up. I haven't heard anything about this. Oh my God. Kajan? Who's getting the chock top?
Starting point is 00:24:12 Who's getting the chock top this time? We're going to share a milkshake. Oh. One straw. Wow. Yeah. Two boys, one straw. No.
Starting point is 00:24:24 No, I'm not going to share a milkshake. Anyway. Anyway. To aid the category, you must explain the film. Okay, so. Oh, God. Okay. So, quickly.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Penelope Cruz. Yes. Pen Pen, as we call her. Yeah. PC. Yeah. The film starts with a group of fabulous women furiously cleaning graves.
Starting point is 00:24:50 In the wind. In the wind. Yeah, so kind of like, you've got to give it up because more leaves just be blowing on. Anyway, so they're scrubbing the graves of their widows, I presume. They're their husbands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah. No, but they're also cleaning their own graves. Because they buy the plots and then they get buried in them. But they tend to their own graves beforehand. Yeah, it makes sense. If they mentioned that, I think. Yes. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Why are you describing just the first scene? You need to do a plot description. Yeah, well, oh, well. Just do the overall. Don't go scene by scene. Okay. Penelope Cruz has a daughter and a mother and a sister. Her mother's dead, though.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Her mother is dead, famously. Died in a fire. And then... No, she didn't. There's no need to go into the details. And she's the father, wink, of her daughter, is a piece of shit. Yeah. Who, like, loses his job and then cracks onto his daughter.
Starting point is 00:26:00 This doesn't happen on camera, but makes advances on his own daughter. Yeah, creepy. After saying, you're not my daughter. daughter. Yeah. It's cool. And the daughter, understandably,
Starting point is 00:26:13 is like, what the actual fact. Oh, she's 16? Yes. And it's completely cooked and she stabs him to death. Off camera.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Off camera. In self-defense. Yeah. Yes. And then Penelope Cruz comes home and discovers this. And then what happens next? Well,
Starting point is 00:26:31 that's what the movie's about. So, really, it's just Penelope Cruz and her daughter, and her sister and then all these other fabulous women dealing with not very many men but the men who are in the film...
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah, there's always no men on camera. Yeah. Like, and very few lines by men. Yeah. Oxiliary characters, yeah. Yeah. They are all just like pigs or... Kind of cutey guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah. Which, in my experience, is pretty much the two-jointed. genre of straight men. Yeah. They're either pigs or their hoddies on a film crew. Yeah. Or, better yet, like, techies at a gig.
Starting point is 00:27:18 What a genre? Yeah. So, Pedro, as a filmmaker, who writes and directs his own films, kind of came about, he was like a cool gay guy from the, like, kind of the Spanish version of the, like, club kid scene. 80s kind of like faggotina kind of maybe 70s
Starting point is 00:27:44 70s and 80s in Spain crazy time, fun time not fun but fun in the kind of club sense hidden away but the he started making these films and they're like super
Starting point is 00:28:00 like insane plots that are quite convoluted that are like kind of inspired by the aesthetics and the plots of soap opera would like kind of telenovela sort of style yeah and so they have these insane plots but then the like performances are quite naturalistic or like quite I don't know like they feel very real um and there's something about his filmmaking that is very like human um and so he's become this like I don't know one of the most famous Spanish directors of all time and it's pretty prolific like it makes a film every two years, I'd say. And it's kind of credited for the discovery or like the fame of
Starting point is 00:28:44 Penelope Cruz in the West and like worked a lot with Antonio Manderas when he was studying his career and now again in his later life. And he in a similar way to John Waters had like these recurring amazing actresses that he would always work with who was like obsessed with them. So yeah, very cool. And Valver was his. big, like, hit that was nominated for Best Foreign Language Film and won. Listener, if you've not seen this film, I can almost guarantee that you've seen the poster for it because it's, like, an image that, like, is known. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yeah. And, like, he's very, like, I mean, there's just this kind of canniness with which he, like, his film's so colorful and, like, I don't know, you just get, like, these hits of, like, this like just ultimate camp yeah it's very much like it was just a very fun little world to be in yes yeah for like the two hours or whatever yeah um and yeah like the story is so loopy um but like who cares yeah like it's not about it's interesting because it's not really about it being like it's not a comedy no but it's also not like a true like drama no no it's funny like yeah so it's like it's just really like easy to experience but it also leads you with a message and also just
Starting point is 00:30:12 like he's obsessed with women yes and you can tell yes how much he's just so interested in their like internal lives and like the way that they i don't know they the way that they are just like yeah the the interaction piece i loved so okay spoiler alert one of my favorite parts in the film was there's this moment where like penelope Cruz and her sister their mother is like dead and the sister comes back from the from her house with like a bag of treasures um it's more complex than that the mother is actually a ghost aka she's not actually dead and whatever but penelope cruise doesn't know this yeah and she like discovers this like bag in her sister's closet and she's like well what the fuck why did you take
Starting point is 00:31:01 all of the jewelry how could you not include me in the division of this like what are your plans for this yeah and feels a bit like hurt yeah and like leaves storms storms out and then i don't know if it's the next day in the chronology but soon after like the next time these two interact the sister goes to this like big event that penelope cruz is putting on this like big work thing and she's instantly like oh my god hey i can't believe you're here this is so nice to see you. Yeah, yeah. And I really loved that.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yeah. Because like, and she, and the sister is immediately like, I brought the bag of stuff. Like, you don't understand. I wasn't actually doing that. Like, you can just have the whole thing like it wasn't. And she was like, oh, God, I was just being dramatic. It's fine. That was my favorite part of the film.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Oh, yeah. Because it was like, like, you can't explode and not have all the, like, and then, like, the love between, like, friends and loved ones is like, yeah. Yes, it's not. I don't know. I just thought that was really real. Yeah, totally. And like, I think this is the sort of stuff he's interested in. Yeah. More than, like, you know, advancing
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yes. Any kind of plot. Like, there's like so many plot elements, but they never feel like it's like, we've got to figure out some solution to all of this. It's more just like, no, this is kind of, life is like that. You think your mother's dead, but then she's actually alive and she's living in under the bed of your sister. Yes. Her sister thought she was a ghost for a few months, but she's not.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And then your daughter, who is the product of an incestuous relationship with your father, who killed your partner. You've hit his body in the restaurant, but you're just trying to start a restaurant. Yes. So you're trying to feed the film crew that's shooting up the street. Yes. So you have to keep the freezer closed because his body's in there, but you're also going to sing a song. And it doesn't really make sense that your neighbors are moving a fridge into the restaurant
Starting point is 00:32:57 because it has a freezer, but you're telling them the freezer doesn't. I mean, listen, to be honest, the daughter has the most incredible, long curly hair. Oh, my God. It's amazing. So good. And the mother is amazing. Yes. But I do think that the revelation of Penelope Cruz can't be ignored.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I just think, like, she is such a, there is something about seeing an actress who, is like ESL in her native tongue and you get such a better sense of her full range. Yes. I think she's just so incredible. And the way that she, I don't know, the way that the film plays with how attractive she is in such an interesting way of like, that doesn't matter to the characters in the film because they're like, no one is, it's not about the gaze like of her. So it's like, the film is intrigued by her beauty, but like the characters around her are like, God, she's a fucking, she's hard work.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Yes. Yes. And it's just interesting how she kind of plays this like indignant, kind of bossy woman. And then, like, the film is never trying to just convince you that she's just the most glamorous thing that's ever existed. It's more like a side part of her personality. Yes. But she's this like determined, kind of rude, a bit crass sometimes. like flies off the handle but incredibly like deep loving human being yes yes incredible she just does
Starting point is 00:34:35 such a good job with it it's so good and her ability to just like hold and it is like melodramatic but just like to hold tears in her eye when they're just sparkling and not let the tear drop but just to be watery she looks like Haya Miyasaki animated her eyes like there yes yes it's like fully amazing and so good and she doesn't in so many scenes I know and just and the camera will just hold on her and she'll just have these like wet eyes yes um and I mean I did really love that in the film so like he is gay the director yes yeah because like I didn't know that but to me like there is a lot of angles and shots and like the could be mistaken for like the objectification of these women in the film.
Starting point is 00:35:29 But, I mean, not to bring her back to bayonetta, but in a similar way of like, on surface level, you could see that. But that is not what that is about in the film. And in fact, it's more of a like, I don't know, it just felt more like, like it didn't feel exploitative. Yeah. It felt like with more like reverence or something. Yeah, I think it's just like sexy fun.
Starting point is 00:35:58 You know what? They're fucking hot. Yeah. So we're going to show off how fucking hot they are. Yeah. Because they're it. Like, not like, you know, jerk off photo for like teenage boys or something. No, I think that's it.
Starting point is 00:36:10 It does feel like someone who's not afraid of sex or being perceived in the kind of wrong way. Yeah. So it's like, oh no. Like look at how amazing her titt is. Yeah. Or look at how incredible this woman's ass looks in these pants. Yes. And like, he'll just leave the camera there and be like,
Starting point is 00:36:26 Like, look, isn't that amazing? But, like, yeah, you never feel that kind of grottiness. No, it's not like leering. And in fact, the only parts that are, are through the, like, lens of when, like, the male characters are looking at the women. Yes. Then there's still those shots, but they feel and look slightly different. Yeah. Even the one where, like, where is it where she walks into the room with, like, all the white men and they all just look at her?
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't even remember which character it was. She was at the funeral. It was the sister at the funeral, yes. All the guys are standing outside in the courtyard smoking. Yeah. And all the women are inside mourning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And they're all weeping and waving fans. Yes, and when the sister around, she runs outside. Yeah. And they all just like look. Yeah. And it's just silent for like 30 seconds and shots of everyone's faces watching her. Yeah. And it's sticky and it's weird.
Starting point is 00:37:25 But none of the other ones are. And it's, yeah, I just, oh, so good. And she just silently backs her way. Yeah. Like, I'm going to go. Yeah. Looking terrified. The sister is incredible.
Starting point is 00:37:38 One of these women go in. I mean, listen, I think it's got to be Penelope. Oh. Who do you like to be? The mother, when she's pretending to be a Russian... So in the plot of the film, the mother is not dead. And she climbs into the... back of her
Starting point is 00:37:56 daughter's car and like stowaways until she gets back to town and then the daughter has to keep her a secret from everyone so she runs her legal hair salon in her apartment but gets her mother to pretend to be a Russian like woman
Starting point is 00:38:13 who doesn't speak Spanish and so she just has to like she just grunts and nods while washing people's hair in between cuts yeah so I was going to say that version of the mother because there's like ghost version of the mother, then there's like makeover version
Starting point is 00:38:29 of the mother, and then there's a Russian version of the mother. It was kind of the in between where she was getting her hair dyed but she still looked kind of ghostly. That's so good. I like that. But I mean, obviously, but then I'm happy to take, I'm happy to live a little bit.
Starting point is 00:38:44 What about her friend who helped to move the freezer and? This incredible sex worker who lives in the street. Yeah, the next door neighbor. Yeah, she was pretty funny. She was pretty good, but, I don't know. Doesn't take the cake. A woman who's alive, who's pretending to be a ghost, who's pretending to be Russian.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Fine, litter in. And she's doing people's hair in the bunker. Right? Okay. Only shampoo and conditional. Yeah. Champu. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Conditional. We'll be right back. Cha-cha. Hello. Hello and welcome back. We're back. Which artwork gets into the bunker? Artwork.
Starting point is 00:39:35 What do you think about art? I like it. Simone. Oh, I like it. What do you think about arts in frames? I like it. What do you think about directional lining that aligns perfectly to the frame size?
Starting point is 00:39:48 I like it. I like it too. I love... What about security guards, Stanley Ram? Hmm. They're short women with headpieces. Oh, I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:39:58 At the gallery. Yeah. What do you think about like that person or whatever who like sat on that chair and broke it? What? You know? Or like there is a specific example, but like just as a concept. Like people who like. The pariah created by destroying art.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Yeah. Yeah. Accidentally. Yeah. Accidentally. What do you think about? You just wanted to see. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:19 People throwing soup on works of art. It's like. I don't know It's not going to make any lasting change It's like yeah I mean there are a lot of ways to protest Name three Soup can
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah March Online petition July What Online petition change the log Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah And of the three The soup can is probably my least favourite Because it feels Stupid Like if you're not articulate enough To like pull attention For your cause
Starting point is 00:41:01 You will do something stupid That will pull attention instead And I think that that highlights That you're an idiot And Yeah but it's obviously Infinitely more complex than that I mean I think that they should
Starting point is 00:41:16 Like you know The Royal Ballets coming to town That's a work of art that state funded Throw a soup on them But I mean like Obviously, the thing that is always kind of lost in this coverage of the soup can, like, you know, we're talking about the, um, God, who is it, the desert? Mostly, um, the climate. What's the name of the organization? Oh, like, save the climate. It's like, climate now. God, that's terrible. Yeah. Um, but they, these, these works of art are not just out there, bare bone, raw doggy in the world. They're selected because they're covered by like, blasts. proof plexiglass shield yeah yeah so you're not actually getting it on the art it's fine
Starting point is 00:41:58 um it's just throwing super to piece of plastic yeah um and it does make the news but yeah it does kind of give fodder to a group of people who want to like undermine that climate rebellion that's it um yeah i find it's like i really i'm torn because i like there's something about the change dot org and something about like a government mandated or government allowed or government sanctioned like protest that defangs protest in a lot of ways yeah because i'm like i think protest if it if you're just saying you can only gather in this you get your allocated time to disrupt at this time i'm like well how effective is that if you're mandating it if you're saying that it's okay where it's we're going intentionally against your policy
Starting point is 00:42:52 and I find that to be yeah like I think that any good protest needs to upset the status quo I think it is interesting going for something like that is kind of held up as like so important and vital to culture I think that's kind of like intriguing as a concept of like well maybe everything like people are important, you know. But I think, yeah, it does get attention, but perhaps not always the best attention. Yeah. And then when it shifts the discussion away from your point, to, like, conserving artwork and the role that history has to play in informing the future and, like, okay, well,
Starting point is 00:43:45 that wasn't the point at all, but that is sometimes where that conversation goes. So I'm like, how effective of a method is it? when it dilutes your message so much. Well, it's that classic Peter thing where I think Peter has become such a joke in the industry, in the kind of discourse around animal rights because of their behavior
Starting point is 00:44:04 and they're kind of absolute shock jocky kind of tactics that just alienated a lot of people that they should be trying to win over. Totally. I think I had said this when I went to some climate rebellion stuff that I was like, I think what might be a tactic that I would employ if I was like taking over as the PR manager for climate rebellion because they had set up in the treasury gardens this like graveyard for the world
Starting point is 00:44:35 which I thought was quite cool and quite a speculation. Yes, I'm like, get attention. But I'm like, I think that optics really matter to the people you're trying to speak to. and if you all purposely dressed like normies it would change a conversation because people would see themselves in there and say like oh my God because I think when you
Starting point is 00:45:03 even though like it's like you know you should be yourself for the rest of the time but like if you show up and you look like a hippie then people can immediately just put you into a box and disregard your opinion because they're like I've already decided I don't care what someone's dreadlocks and kind of a
Starting point is 00:45:19 like Nopoli's woven bag is going to say to me whereas if you dress like full south side normie in a suit and like button up I think that people would take notice in a way where they're like oh my God so I think like I would
Starting point is 00:45:34 do like let's do some protests where we all dress like fucking nine to five workers and freak the shit out of people by being like they're saying it too yeah that's okay I thought
Starting point is 00:45:48 The, like the, the, the blow up of the Trump and Epstein photos in the UK was such a fantastic way to protest. Yeah. Like, projecting it on the building, doing the... That projection on the building was incredible. So good. But, like, that is so clear. Yeah. Like, and doesn't, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yeah, it's not damaging. Yeah. And doesn't, like, dilute. Like, no one's thinking about. Well, I mean, I did have a moment of thinking about, what are the logistics of printing something that big? Can I see the scenes? Where was it made?
Starting point is 00:46:26 Like, I did think about that a bit. But it doesn't like take away the method. Yeah, totally. So a bit more successful. Yeah. But so I also like macromay art. Macaroni art. Macaroni in a pot?
Starting point is 00:46:41 Yeah. I love artwork that is like... You love macaroni art? Yeah. Do you? I think that's so funny. There's not in your house. No.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Not yet. Listeners, you heard it here, though. Send me your macaroni art. Send it to me. One of my... Show me to me, please. My niece has this little notebook that when you open it is all just like black paper. Oh?
Starting point is 00:47:06 Or so it would appear. But it comes with like a little scratching pen and it's all like rainbow underneath and it's got a black coating on it. And like, when I was a child, we had to use wax crayons. on a piece of paper and then paint it black and then scratch off the black paint. But she's just got it in a notebook. So I don't know that I would call that art, actually. I feel like you've had too many helping hands.
Starting point is 00:47:28 You threw soup on it. Yeah, wow. Ah! Have you been, what's the most, like, you've been moved by a piece of art in a gallery context? I, like, my favorite piece of art at, like, the NGV. I can't remember that.
Starting point is 00:47:48 name of the painting how great is that but like is it the morning or something and it's like the the sheep on the like rock like crying out into the night above like the crows and stuff yeah do you know the one i'm talking about no um i love that artwork it is so like um oh my god why I'm so NGV She called anguish Anguish Not mourning
Starting point is 00:48:19 Oh she's hot She's standing over the body of her Of a lamb I like This is my favorite piece of art in the NGV And I just think it is Beautiful Oh it is stunning
Starting point is 00:48:32 It's just like And all these crows are slowly advancing Yes It's it Oh I just like It moves me It is beautiful yeah so i'd say that what has moved you um what has moved me man with a van
Starting point is 00:48:50 um i remember really distinctly going to see the poles the blue poles the polls the pollock with my mum at when they first purchased it at the njv and that was such a big moment of like okay like this is what art is this is the idea of what art is and I thought that was really I don't know why I think it was just maybe it was just kind of like the beginning of learning
Starting point is 00:49:21 how to think about art or like learning how to kind of expand on the kind of I think when you're a kid you're like very you're trying to get to realism more than anything because like all children's art starts
Starting point is 00:49:38 in the kind of abstract and then goes it's like everything is heading towards like, I want to get as close to realism as possible. And then you kind of get this revolutionary idea that that's not the goal. And that was quite, like, transformative. Like, but I think I get frustrated by, like, the gallery context. Like, I find galleries to be really, like, human places that don't invite people.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Yeah. And I think that, like, I'm more likely to engage, like, I like to be able to spend time with, like, a piece of art. And, like, I find that if there's art in someone's lounge room or whatever, and, like, I get to sit and think about it and think about it in context. And I think that part of what frustrates me a lot of the time is that in galleries, you know, these, like, huge, oftentimes colonialist institutions. Yes. that have like decontextualized these pieces of work, particularly in Australia where there's like a lot of the art we have here that's like, you know, this European masterworks is completely decontextualized.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Yes. And so when you're looking at it, you're like meant to have this reverence and be like, oh my God, this is an incredible thing that I'm looking at. But it is so removed from any kind of meaning like in your actual life. Yeah. And so there is something I really appreciate about, like, seeing art that's being curated by someone I know who isn't necessarily an artist or whatever. I'm really thinking about what they see in it and trying to, like, understand their perspective on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And there was this one painting that my, I'm sure I've talked about it before, but like that my great aunt had Carol in her house. And it was like, it's huge. It's like, you know, one meter by two meter canvas. And it's this like, you know, rock suspended in space above kind of a barren landscape of, you know, in front of this gray brooding sky. And it's very, I don't know, stark and dire and kind of like intense, like it's super gothic feeling. And I remember speaking to my great uncle at the time when I was a kid. me like what what is this like what is this what is this what is this and he was like oh well like
Starting point is 00:52:16 and he was a religious man and and not kind of in an awful way but like a religious man who he was just like I saw this work and I was fascinated because this is like this idea about what is earth and we are just this rock suspended in space in this kind of bizarre way and I don't know there was something moving about the way that he related to this idea of this absurd concept of existence and how he loved it so much that he wanted to look at it every day even though it's like these people that were so friendly and light and everything were like including this like very intense brooding peace in their daily lives and had such a like love for it i love that Matt, any favorite art?
Starting point is 00:53:06 Yeah, lots of different ones. I think probably my favorite artists are Van Gogh. Goff with them. Yeah, Van Gogh with them. I was always really intrigued by surrealism. I think if I didn't go into music, I would be a surrealist artist, probably. So I really like Sabadali. I remember there was no chance you were ever going to make any money in any job you chose.
Starting point is 00:53:31 No, no. I was just like fully invested in the idea of following your dreams. But yeah, I like the one with the clocks that Dali did, you know, the persistence of memory. Yeah. You know, the drooping clocks. Yeah, yeah. I like that one. I remember when the Dali exhibition came to Melbourne at the NGV.
Starting point is 00:53:53 There was so many, so many artworks that came. And he just did so much stuff. Yeah. He just so prolific. and all the artworks were huge and then tiny and, like, so interesting. So many different sizes. Well, huge ones really impress me because, like, they're just the scale of them. Like, some of the ones at the NGV are so big.
Starting point is 00:54:15 And you just sit there and it's like, it's like a whole wall. It's crazy. It's just so big. Just imagine trying to paint it. It just you're like, God. Yeah. Takes a long. It would take a long time.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Imagine how look at how big This one is If you did some small ones You could get through them Churned through a lot more Yeah But I think we need to put an artwork in Of a beautiful lady
Starting point is 00:54:44 With a With a what is it Dragon Tadu F hole in her back There's some very famous beautiful ladies Like the girl with the pearl ear ring Yeah The Venus
Starting point is 00:54:56 The Milia Floating down the river I love that pose That is incredible it's so great even if you don't understand or have kind of the ability to get to an art museum you can just watch drag race because it you know the girls are always like look at this I'm doing I'm doing Edvard Munk's the scream but on a dress yeah oh you like starry night check this out I can wear blue and yellow I think there is something really like funny about
Starting point is 00:55:29 when people like, oh, drag is art. Yeah. And you're like, oh, I guess. Tell me another. Yeah. I like always think of it like, drag is art in the way that like making a wind chime out of spoons is art. Folk art. Like it's like, you know, making a dog out of the axle of an old car.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah. And you've welded it together with some nuts and spring. Yeah. And you're like, this is art. And you're like, yeah, kind of. You go, girl. I mean, it is like, I mean, we've fallen into the trap, haven't we, of, like, talking about art. And it's like, yes, classical painting.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Only classical painting art. But obviously, we're well aware that it's more diverse than that. And obviously, we have eyes, so we know when to do them. Well, we were so close to that fucking banana art that one time. Yeah. The banana famously gaffer taped to the wall. You were close to it. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:56:31 We were very close to it. We were doing a tour of the NGV. Like we were hosting a tour. But there was a kind of thing of like before that happened, we're like, oh, it's like, let's just take the banana. Yeah. Like, what if we ate the banana? Yeah, on the tour. Because, like, this, you know, this banana is just like a kind of commentary about what is art and why do we revere it?
Starting point is 00:56:59 so when it's a banana with duct tape. And then before we went on the tour, this like NGV, very nervous-looking NGV person was like, just so you know, don't take the banana. Whatever you do, do not take the banana. And apparently they're just like, you know, they've got five bananas backstage ready to go the second. Like it's not a banana.
Starting point is 00:57:24 It's the idea of a banana. Yes. That the NGV paid millions of dollars. Yes. but yeah you know like you could do it anyway
Starting point is 00:57:32 you could have it in your home but we should have taken that fucking banana I know we live in regret yeah oh well yeah
Starting point is 00:57:41 hmm um should we put in David oh that big statue yeah that would be good the neighbour at the studio has one in his front yard
Starting point is 00:57:54 he does do you think that the whole history of art would be um would be different if Michelangelo had made his like David had a
Starting point is 00:58:05 dog donkey cock yeah like I just think that like he's just got a little tiny one doesn't he like he's got yeah he's got a a grower and I think that like that is part of the you know
Starting point is 00:58:20 the conversation about that statue inevitably humans can't look at a statue and not think how big is the dead how big's the dig. Yeah. Yeah. But if he'd done like a massive schlong,
Starting point is 00:58:33 would the world be different, intimidated, scared? Would it be famous? Like I think that that dick is of a size that like, there's no American dad tourists that can't go in there and feel like, wow, I'm bigger than that. And so in that way, they're able to appreciate it. Yeah. Whereas if it was intimidating.
Starting point is 00:58:54 If it was huge, it would alienate people. Yeah, they'd be scared of the dick. yeah um the comparisons would be I mean there would be less comparisons because yeah everyone would be riddled with shame and in the story of David and Goliath he's the underdog so he's you know gonna have that kind of
Starting point is 00:59:12 when surely Goliath has a bigger dick than David well there's a reason I know looking at a statue of that giant donkey dick Goliath yeah and it's because the American tourists would be freaked out yeah hmm wait so should we put in a statue of Goliath Let's put in a statue of Goliath. Is there any statues of Goliath? Goliath is a cyclops, right?
Starting point is 00:59:36 No, he's just a giant. Oh, no, boring. Can we, can now Goliath be a psychops? Yes. Yes. Maybe. Oh, my God. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:59:49 There's some statues. Yeah. Of Goliath. That was like a fake story, right? David and Goliath isn't a real thing. God, that little punk. He can't believe he killed that, Goliath. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:00:04 He's so rude. Artwork. See, this is what happens when we do topic that's too broad. You all make fun of us for doing something niche. But then when it's too broad, it's like, I don't even know what to say. He decapitates this man. Goliath? Doesn't he shoot a stone into his cyclops eye?
Starting point is 01:00:22 Why don't I know the story of David and Goliath? Are you getting a bit confused? sling a stone into his cyclone? Yeah, he does that first, yes. Yeah, and then that's it. And then he cuts his head off. Oh, well, that seems like a bit of overkill. You think a little rock's going to knock him out? Well, it'll blind a cyclops. He's only got one of those. I think that was more than enough.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I think about to see like a weird episode of veggie tales or something. You know? Why don't we put it in both? We'll put in a statue of David and a statue of Goliath. Michael Vangelode's David. Yeah. And then, uh, And Michelangelo's Goliath. Can I tell you something?
Starting point is 01:00:59 In ancient Greek and Roman art, sculptures depict small penises to symbolize intellect, self-control, and civilization, rather than lust and depravity. A small, relaxed penis indicated a man of superior moral character and wisdom, contrasting with the large erect genitals, often seen on monstrous figures like satires, which represented unrestrained animalistic urges. These aesthetic preference reflects a cultural ideal where composure and rational thought were valued over physical indulgence. Boring. Yeah. Get a grip. Big Dick sculptures.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Yeah. Didn't you see you 28 years later? Oh my God. That was incredible. You can't tell me that's not why so many men responded poorly to that film. Yeah. See? Getting emasculated.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Yeah. Well, we could put in David, but just with some modifications. tended back to Michael Angelo David Donkey Dick David All right No but that suggests that
Starting point is 01:02:03 I'd hate to do that in suggesting that only donkey dicks are worth putting into stone which is not true What about the intellectuals? Well that's true It's rude to also say
Starting point is 01:02:16 that if you're smart you can't have a huge cock So God See look at the conversation that art generates. Really powerful. Okay, we're putting in a statue of Goliath.
Starting point is 01:02:32 With a huge dick. Obviously. It's so stupid. But perfect. Yeah. Okay. So, we've got...
Starting point is 01:02:48 Oh, no, we've still got one more topic. So we'll be right back. Welcome back to every one. Welcome back. Okay. Sorry about that, listener. I don't know where we went. Our final topic for discussion today is which Bristol-stool type
Starting point is 01:03:24 goes into the bunker. Matt, you're behind this, aren't you? We said, oh, we could talk about poo. I've just been to lots of naturopaths in my time. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And they always get you to point out what your stool is looking like of this chart. And it's called the Bristol stool chart.
Starting point is 01:03:48 And basically, it ranges from hard. little palettes well yes all the way through to liquid there are seven types we'll go through them one by one lazy you go first
Starting point is 01:04:03 separate hard lumps very constipated type two lumpy and sausage like slightly constipated a sausage shape with cracks on the surface normal
Starting point is 01:04:15 we shouldn't actually say normal because it suggests that the others are abnormal not kind type four Like a smooth, soft sausage or steak also classified as normal. So these all have pictures as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:32 You can look it up. Soft blobs with clear-cut edges lacking fiber. But a strong intellect. Type 6, where that's mushy consistency with ragged edges. This is an indicator of inflammation. And liquid consistency with no solid pieces, inflammation and diarrhea. Entirely liquid I'm so sorry everyone
Starting point is 01:04:55 That this is our show now We've buried this We were eventually going to have to talk like this As we do address all things Yeah But I do Might as well get it out of the way But we've buried it at the end of an episode
Starting point is 01:05:07 Yeah If you've made it this far Then you're a true committed What do your naturopath say to you Like rubber clove of garlic in your ear And call it a day You'll get back to a number four soon enough It's just like
Starting point is 01:05:20 It's just a weird thing to I mean I guess It's an indication of how you're feeling on that day. But, like, mine ranges from one to seven pretty regularly, so. Oh, Matt. Oh, Matt. I don't know. What is yours normally like?
Starting point is 01:05:39 Matt. Which number? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Tell us a number. Just say a number. I'll say 28. You're off the chart, wet.
Starting point is 01:05:52 She releases a vapour. Every five, I can ambipur room spray. Every five minutes, I go... She goes to the bathroom. Ew. Yeah. I, what are you, Zelda? No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Negative fire. Ridiculous. Do you... I think we've talked about this already. She dispenses a pellet, like a Pez dispenser from her neck. Oh, I had the road run a Pez dispenser. I got gifted a Pez dispenser for my father for my birthday. It was Bulbussar.
Starting point is 01:06:34 You love Pokemon so much. I do love Bulborsor. Okay. I'm intrigued by that bulb on her back and what she saw. Well, that's very kind. Did you have, what was your pears dispenser growing up? I don't know. I don't know that they stuck around long.
Starting point is 01:06:56 I think that they don't really intrigue me that much after the first kind of dispensation. I'm like, I could just go straight to the packet. Oh, no. My issue was that I was never allowed to get the refills. So, like, I had a pez dispenser once and then it was just an empty dispenser. Yeah. It's like, well, we'll. What will be done here?
Starting point is 01:07:16 Yeah. Yeah. I think as well if it transformed something else If you could put like a candy bar in there And it sliced it and dispensed it small Like that would be more of like a reason for the dispenser But the little candies Yeah
Starting point is 01:07:32 Like they're not better when they're coming out of bubble salt neck Wow aren't they It's just a way to safely keep your candies Without them all cracking And dispense them in a safe way I'm like I'm not just taking one little pez If it was gum
Starting point is 01:07:53 Gum I wouldn't eat a whole thing of gum Or mince But I love the cherry pez flavor Cherry Pez The best Pez I only remember Pez being pretty bland And like
Starting point is 01:08:05 Like crunching a bone Yeah Yeah What's the category Um Wait Oh the boo you so quickly deviated away from it as much faster as possible
Starting point is 01:08:22 Jesus Christ Well I mean obviously the the stool that we're putting in the bunker Is everybody shits in like ambi per Yeah Which makes telling the time really confusing It does Because you're listening out for that But it's actually just
Starting point is 01:08:44 but yeah it's a 28 on the Bristol stool chart that's what we're putting in yeah okay number 28 yeah my uncle was obsessed was talking about the Bristol stool chart as soon as you found out about it and my uncle was like this far north Queensland man who'd like hi Robbie how ya doing
Starting point is 01:09:06 oh Simon about a six on the Bristol oh ew yeah what a Ew. See, we should share this information more. I think that, you know, because I've been through this with my husband who's like very like, you should be open about this kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:24 This is not the sort of stuff that we talk about in my household. No. Not under my roof. No. We, because I think it's, there's something in the same way that like a giant dong, you know, made the ancient Greeks think of the kind of animalistic world. I think there's something so, like it reminds. me that we're not
Starting point is 01:09:45 you know we're not these highly evolved beings yeah we're not highly evolved beings we're just animals pissing and shitting into the woods yeah there's nothing like oh you're gonna yeah I mean I think that's sometimes about food
Starting point is 01:09:59 yeah it's like oh you're just eating that so you can shut it out later how grim yeah what's the point yeah ends it all well I think that's probably good for the episode What would you say the, where were we at on the, on the scale with the chock top? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Maybe you were at a six that day and that's why you were chock topped my husband. Yeah. I'm not, I didn't participate in any chock topping. Now doth protest. The invitation was there. Yeah, that's fine. Do you think that like douche water is somewhere between seven and 28? Definitely.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Yeah, definitely. There's no, there's no douche water that isn't on that spectrum. No. Yeah. Especially on like, further down the preparation. Oh, good. There might be some points, like, it might be like 6.5 or something. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:10:58 It's like a 12. Yeah. It's just like. So diluted. Yeah. What is it that, um, is it a naturopathy? Mm-hmm. Where they like infuse the water with like one gazillionth of the essence?
Starting point is 01:11:11 What is that? I have no idea. Matt, I'm asking. Yeah, what about it? Is that in naturopathy? One gazillionth of the essence of what? Like, they'll be like, oh, you need to take this, this, like, is the antidote. Oh, they like...
Starting point is 01:11:26 Essence of crab or something. Whatever, whatever it is, but they like distill it and infuse it by just the smallest, smallest amount. If it's a really strong herb, then they might do that. No, but it's a natural. Yeah. Is that in the art of notropathy? They make you herb mixes. Yeah, like Chinese medicine as well.
Starting point is 01:11:49 They make you a herb mix and it tastes like stool chart type seven. No, but it's like a specific practice. Yeah. I'm not sure. It might be naturopathy. They do make you drink things with some. essence of dandelion in there or whatever well it's number 28 on the scale yes stool vapor yeah that's what we do in the bunker and to be honest it's like the vapor that's good for the
Starting point is 01:12:31 um septic tank yes because i was going to say i feel like the vapor starts at 15 yeah and by the time we're at 28 it's like you don't even necessarily need to to like take down your pants and underwear just comes off in the wash it just like is so small yeah a percentage because we don't really do that in the bunker yeah okay well we're getting too much what a great week the Bristol stool chart 28 the piece of art is goliath with a giant donkey dick and the first thing that we talked about the mother from And the mother playing a Russian woman from Volvaire. I'm sure this episode is going to be our most successful because it is so, you know, finger on the pulse.
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