Decoding the Gurus - Supplementary Material 32: A Shower of Bastards

Episode Date: June 28, 2025

We wallow in the mud with some of the worst gurus of the gurusphere. Join us and lament the guru paradise that we all live in.Supplementary Material 3200:00 Introduction and Banter01:22 Old Squeaky and Daily Life03:53 Matthew McConaughey Episode Recap08:13 The Liver King Controversy16:14 Nazi Propaganda on YouTube21:11 Historical Revisionism: Darryl Cooper and David Irving27:46 Huberman's very public hardcore research32:25 Huberman sells out34:32 Chris Langan: The Bottom (Racist) Tier of Gurudom36:03 Langan on Weinstein42:21 Langan's grievances against Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson49:47 Matt Goodwin visits London55:59 Gary Stevenson hates Graphs and Data01:10:33 Gary compares himself to Russell Brand01:15:12 THEY won't let you talk about the economy01:17:22 Matt invokes Goodwin's Law01:25:08 The All In Podcast Besties launch a Tequila Brand01:28:32 Matt's Modest Utopian Plan01:31:12 Lab Leak Discourse continues at the Guardian01:35:55 Matt attacks the Mainstream Media01:39:11 Dugin's Forum of the Future 2050 and the Guru Horseshoe01:45:57 Extended OutroThe full episode is available for Patreon subscribers (1hr 50 mins).Join us at: https://www.patreon.com/DecodingTheGurusSources2Lazy2Try: The Liver King Gets Arrested For Trying To Hunt Down Joe RoganRob Mohr tweets out an iconic photo of HubermanScott Carney: Documenting Andrew Huberman's LiesChris Langan's thoughts on Eric WeinsteinChris Langan's thoughts on Elon Musk & Jordan PetersonMatt Goodwin's visit to LondonDespolarisa: #89 GARY STEVENSON - Economics, Trading, Inequality, Wealth, Populism, Tax, DepolarizeThe All-In Podcast guys being bastardsTsargard Institute: The Forum for the Future 2050

Hello Hello and welcome to Decoding the Guru's supplementary material with the Irish wonder Christopher Cavendin, me and the man from Down Under, the Wizard of Oz, Prathir Brine. Yay! That's a good introduction. going on there, the wizard of ours, Prathir Grime. Yay. That's a good introduction. That's a good introduction. Now, if I was doing the introduction, I would introduce you as the throbbing engine

that powers the good ship DTG and myself as the captain. Oh, very nice. Well, the engine, the throbbing engine that I am, I'm, I'm frobing away and just wondering is that chair that I see behind you, old squeaky? People are going to get tired of this. People are going to try to you. I'm bringing it up. Everyone.

Don't worry. They'll find that off you go. Bye. Bye squeaky. See you. It was actually a Patreon member who said, I bet Matt brings old Squeaky in whenever you're recording. It's my default chair.

I don't bring him out for the recordings. It's my default chair. Default chair. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there you go, Matt. Look, in one minute, old Squeaky was done. He's gone.

We're not going to mention him again. Not a problem. It's not a problem. It's not a problem. We've got a lot of things to cover today, Matt. We've got to be efficient. We've got to think. But it wouldn't be a supplementary material. If I didn't say, how are you being? How are you doing?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, things are all right. Yeah, yeah, things are good. Thanks. Thanks for asking. Yeah, I thank you for asking. I did three hours of are good. Thanks. Thanks for asking. Yeah. Thanks for asking. I did three hours of tennis today. Three hours in the sun. And imagine how sweaty I was.

I took my aging dogs for a walk in the middle of the day, which is unusual. And yeah, it's a bit hot for them. Bit hot for dogs. Sweat out of their tongues. I hear they do. Is that true? Is that an actual is that a fact? Like, did they sweat out of their tongues right here. They do. Is that true? Is that an actual is that a fact? Like, did they sweat out of their skin as well? Because I'm just thinking, like, I've never petted a dog and been like, oh, you're wet.

No, not really, because they have fur, you see. So the sweating wouldn't work. They just become, you know, drenched. We have fur, but I'm a mammal. Well, pet me. I know what we have for a month. I'm a mammal. Yeah. Well, we're hairless hips, right? So we are. We are.

We are. And we are well, so we're all okay. We're all doing well. Okay. You got your exercise. You were dashing around getting fit. I walked with the dogs. That's good.

Um, and yeah, big week, Friday, you know, is the week. Hope you got things dogs. That's good. And yeah, big week, Friday, you know, end of the week. Hope you got things done. That's right. We're now pulling back the curtain and letting people know what that is. But that's fine. I always feel antsy about that. But you never seem to care. Because it's fine. People, you know, people understand. People understand this isn't live. They understand the concept of recordings. and it's not, you know, don't underestimate people, Chris. It's the podcast, eternal presence. Like we're here right now.

It could be, we could be recording right now when you're listening to this. We're just, I'm just, so people just devastated to know feel the fact that this was on Friday. Yes This isn't happening now Completely they're probably sleeping right now No But Chris Chris the Marco Michael Matthew McConaughey. Oh, yeah, Matthew McConaughey episode. It went that well That's a crowd pleaser. We knew it would be. It did, yeah. We didn't get a ton of feedback saying, you guys were too harsh. You're totally wrong about Matthew McConaughey. He's not doing what... No.

Quite a lot of people voicing a little bit like, oh no, like McConaughey's doing this. Well, that's how I felt when I found out about it. My only concept of Matthew McConaughey's doing this. Well, that's how I felt. That's how I felt when I found out about it. My only concept of Matthew McConaughey was, oh, he's the cool guy from True Detective. You know, we basically Hollywood actors, we shouldn't know anything about them. Like, if we knew nothing about Tom Cruise, if we just knew about it from the movies,

it'd be like, that'd be fine. Or Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson. Mel Gibson. That should keep their entire private life behind a discreet male. You haven't seen Mel Gibson's appearance on Joe Rogan as well. He's even worse than you imagine. And he's even, were you to imagine him, it's actually worse than that. So, yeah.

He's become like the Australian version of the liver king at this point. Oh, liver king. Well, that's good. That's our first topic map. You know, that's what they call in the biz as a segue opportunity. But before we segue, you know, at the end of the Matthew McConaughey thing, we added like a bunch of information for people, important information, but it was after three hours, Matt, their minds were a little bit warped from the self-help.

So let me just reiterate one thing. I'll just do it within one minute because I just want to make it clear to as broad of an audience as possible. While we're still fresh, we're here together, paying for the Patreon does not make me have to agree with you. Okay, we've got that. We've established that. You pay $3 and then if you issue opinions on the Patreon, I may respond to them, I may disagree. Nobody, nobody has issued opinion. I've disagreed since we record the Mafia McConaughey thing. I'm just making this PSA, right? Like in keyest people thought that paying the couple of dollars would mean that I will be forced to agree with them.

No, that's not a tier. It's not available. Okay. Wait, I've just wanted to read back to you. There you go. There you go. That's Chris's policy. That's Chris's policy. That's the podcast policy, man. We get the Greek out the note from the higher ups. No, I wouldn't agree with you. Any middle tier or above patron, I will agree with everything.

Oh, really, man? Oh, really? So one person suggested that they had like a Japanese golden curry and that if you add coconut milk, it basically makes Thai green curry. You didn't agree with them. Actually, that was me. But the patron person also agreed and you disagreed with them and said it was a heresy. So that's true. That's true. That's true. Food takes. Food takes. That's where Matt draws the line. I will draw the line. Yeah. Politics, religion, you name it. Ideologies of any kind. I don't really give a shit, but don't put coconut milk in fucking Japanese. I call it a fact, Kerry. To be fair, I was just repeating what another Australian had said.

That was a recipe from an Australian site where they- That's about right. Yeah. Yeah. Your's about right. Yeah. You're a country man. Never. Don't be getting cooking ideas from Australia. What's your first mistake? Have I taught you nothing? We take cooking ideas from other countries.

That's how this works. You've got it all backwards. Yeah. To be fair, they did say it creates something in between Japanese curry and Thai green curry. They didn't say it was an authentic Thai green curry. Okay. Neither fish nor fowl, an unholy abomination. Yeah, you did seem triggered by that.

So that was fun. And speaking of someone that's been triggered. Oh, I see. I set you up with the Segway. You let it go straight into the keeper. So you set yourself up with your own Segway. Okay. Well, now you've ruined this Segway.

Okay. We've both ruined both Segways now, but the Lever King, Matt, you know him. Muscle-bind 50 year old man with a big bushy beard who eats raw organs and gallivants around the forest talking about his testicles. Right? Yep. Yep. Just a, just a normal internet personality.

Yeah. To be fair, 25. It's surprising he's not part of the trumpet industry. He needs to be head of some department. There was actually a documentary on Netflix that was released about him. And like, if you don't know the liver King, he had like this sudden rise in popularity on Instagram and TikTok where it was this very muscle muscle-bound older man.

And he was saying that he gets all his muscles from eating raw meat and older man and he was saying that he gets all his muscles from eating raw meat and bulls testicles. And, you know, he is like a, a kind of, uh, extreme paleo diet, naturalistic fallacy type person par excellence, right? But he's, he's very muscular. And people including Joe Rogan said that he's not just working out and eating bruised testicles. He must also be on the juice mat. He's taking steroids. A lot of people said that. And it emerged that indeed he was on a lot of steroids, like the tune of $10,'s a bunch of steroids. So yeah, all natural with synthetic steroids, right?

Like, so that damaged his brand. The Netflix documentary covered that, you know, it covered the revolution, the aftermath and so on. But he was still making content and his brand was damaged. But he's been doing a bit more damage himself recently. Do you know what he's been up to? I saw some little clip about him getting arrested. He went somewhere to, to assassinate Joe Rogan, Chris.

Yeah. Well, well, no, I'm not. I mean, he did threaten that Joe Rogan was going to die at one point. He did travel to Texas, Austin with knives and guns and like repeatedly go live, saying that he was, you know, he was coming for Joe Rogan. And he also bizarrely said, you know, he's going to face Joe Rogan. He wants to fight him. A lot of the talk was about fight, but it was also at some points he was saying, you

know, Joe Rogan's trained. He might choke him out. he might suffocate him. But if he does, when he wakes up, that will be one of the greatest experiences of his life. And he was like, you'll need to break my legs. Like, what are you going to break? What are you going to break Joe? And you're a black belt, but you've, you've, you've never come across something like this, willing to die, hoping that you'll choke me out, I pray to God, because that's a dream come true,

it feels good, and then the limbs. What I'm hoping is that you, Joe Rogan, are thinking, I'm gonna choke that motherfucker out, lights out, I'm gonna choke him out, and I kinda hope that if you win, that's how it happens, because to wake up from that dream, that's a good feeling. And then anything else that you could break on me, break it on me. I hope that you won't feel me tap.

That's never happening. Tapping because I have something actually to fight for. Actually, that's my family. So he's yeah, there's a lot of unhinged Instagram posts and TikToks of him looking like a deranged maniac and explaining that, like the Highlander, he has to face Joe Rogan. Capital of Texas. What's the capital of Texas? Houston.

It's Houston. Guess what? You're dead, bitch. You're dead. You're dead. Because I... Yeah, welcome to Texas. We just got here. Yeah, did he have like a picture of Joe Rogan or something? Kind of a box or something? Oh yeah, he had a box which had something inside it and then there was like a screen where he opened the box and there was a gun inside it. And it had like Joe Rogan's podcast logo on the outside. He was taking that

with him. He was arrested, I think, for making terroristic threats. And he's still making them. He's been posting since he was released and there's now a restraining order in place. He has to stay outside of 200 yards. But I don't think this is quite the end. And I mean, to be clear, he looks like he's going through a mental health episode, right? Like he's traveling around on the ground talking to cockroaches. I'm going to rest.

Right now, I'm going to fight. I'm going to fight for my family, for what's right. And I'm not fight. I'm gonna fight for my family, for what's right, and I'm not gonna stop. And I'm gonna fight until... Oh, there's a cockroach. Where'd you go? Oh, there you are. Never a good sign when that's what you're up to. But he was never the most healthy minded person given his outlook on life. But now he's properly went off the Resurrection. That's a shame. That's a shame.

Yeah. Well, sorry about that. Sorry for him. Sorry for Joe Rogan. I mean, I don't wish somebody to have the mental health episode, but it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of fuckers like Joe Rogan and the Liver King together at last, Matt. And, you know, it is true that Joe Rogan was never a fan of the Liver King.

Part of the reason is like Joe Rogan, together with a kind of YouTube fitness guy called More Plates More Dates Derek, we're talking about him being on steroids. So it's like kind of related to that. He wanted to get on Joe Rogan to talk to Joe Rogan. He was on some Joe Rogan orbiters shows, but he never got on Joe. And it seems like his mind is now, he needs to get on Joe Rogan to like solve everything. And that's kind of how this works, right? Because, you know, Alex Jones, I mean, he had the same kind of, you know, you have to have this beef, you know, Joe Rogan, you know, whatever. But, you know, I think the magical end of the story is you kind of make up and maybe go on Joe Rogan. And like, I guess the combination of the cocktail of drugs that he's taken, all swishing around in his bloodstream,

him being a mad internet person to begin with, and, you know, having that big hit that came from the revelations about him taking those, all those chemicals. that came from the revelations about him taking those all those chemicals. I guess it all, you know, you just just spiraled because it's a fundamentally unhealthy thing. You know, yeah, thing to begin with, right? Yeah. And the documentary, it did actually make the point that the mean people that seem to suffer from him are his family. Like he makes his kids, you know, like he shot a deer and then they all have to sit around it and eat the organs. And like the kids are, you know, there is kids, right? So they're kind of looking up to him, but they don't seem as in on it as he is, but

they're just doing what the dad tells them. Yeah. Yeah. So that was like kind of tragic. And his wife was in some of the things where he's being manic and she doesn't look happy. What's going on? Right. So yeah.

Very sad for them. Anyway, Chris, before you segue into your next... How did you know about your own night? Well, yeah. You had that look, the segue look. I get a guess of my chest. Oh, okay. Yeah, come on.

It's just some internet bullshit that I first came across, which is, you know, as people know, I'm a middle-aged white man. So I like to watch... They do know that. Yeah. So I like to watch history They're doing all that. Yeah. So I like to watch history material, read history books, including military history. I'm not above that, right? I'm just fulfilling my destiny of my demographic.

And so I was looking at YouTube and I get to these World War II tanks and things like that going around and I go, oh, yeah, I'll watch that. So I'm watching this thing and then I had one of those moments, you remember in Peep Show where Mark Corrigan, he's there and he's with his new buddy and they're doing the sort of, they're at the military. Reenactment. The reenactment and they're wearing their Nazi uniforms and his new friend is saying a bunch of suspiciously Nazi sounding stuff and Mark's thinking to himself, like,

does this guy just like Nazi stuff or is he a Nazi? I mean, obviously a band isn't an army, but you need some organization. Exactly my feeling. Exactly. I mean, democracy is all very well, but it's weak and it's decadent. You need a strong leader. I'm in character. Democracy is all very well, but it's weak and it's decadent. You need a strong leader. Er... I'm in character. Oh, yes, yes, right.

Yes, the... the fatherland needs the... the Führer. Oh, God, I'm even boring when I'm a Nazi. Jesus. Plastic rubbernecker. Absolutely no interest in military history. Might as well be checking out fucking seed drills and a farm museum. Still, it's nice to get out of the city, isn't it? Oh, yeah, it's nice to get away from it all, innit? You know, the work, the smog, the graffiti.

Yeah, the traffic, the noise, the hassle. The car alarms, the cash points, the blacks, the Paki's, the Jews. Oh, er, yeah, yeah, I mean, that's what we all want, a racially pure nation. Exactly. I mean, all we're saying is England for the English, right? You mean Germany for the Germans? You mean... this is... are we... Rights for whites. That's not too much to ask, is it? Is this real now? We're on the same wavelength, right? Everyone thinks it. The difference is we're not afraid

to say it. Oh shit. Oh bollocks. Of course I can't just make a nice normal friend. Oh, no, that would be far too simple I'll Hitler Kyle You're not supposed to do that down. You know, you're not supposed to do that Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a very funny scene yeah Well, I had that experience because because I'm watching this video and there's the German Tiger tanks

and people in uniforms and guns running across the snowy steppe and jumping in and out, firing machine guns and so on. And there's a sort of narrative to it, which I'm just kind of, I don't know, it just sounds a bit like he's romanticizing them a little bit. And it was about the Waffen SS Stottenkampf division or something like that. And he's just, it's, it's a bit lyrical in the way that he's describing these guys. And, and that is like, that is describing them as fighting for, you know, you know, fighting to protect the people from the Russian hordes.

And so I'm going, Oh my God, this is fucking Nazi propaganda. So I kept watching this in horrified fascination because like, it never comes out and says it, or says anything explicitly Nazi, right? But just the whole narrative around the thing is all romanticizing and glamorizing and eulogizing. Like that's the tone. And so, of course, I had to look at the comments, Chris. And sure enough, it's a hive of fucking Nazis, right? They're all Nazis. Everyone. They're all with their comments like, you know, these brave men fought for a European civilization that is dead and gone now. You know, that kind of thing.

So that set me down this little rabbit hole and I'm finding more of these because, you know, YouTube's recommending these things to me now, just because I clicked on one and that, you know, it's a whole genre and it's all full of Nazis, it's all Nazi shit, full of Nazis. None of it is breaking any of the YouTube guidelines. And the actual bona fide history channels that do cover something like, I don't know, the Battle of the Bulge for instance, where another Waffen SS division shot a whole bunch of American soldiers, prisoners in cold blood, killed a bunch of Belgian civilians and so

on. They have to censor themselves, right? They can't mention these atrocities and war crimes because that would be trespassing against the YouTube, you know, auto-detect algorithms, which detects anything like that and demonetizes them. So it's this bloody perfect storm where it's like, thank you YouTube, like absolute Nazi propaganda. That's fine. But actually mentioning Nazi war crimes? No, can't do that. So that's what we live in, Chris.

2025. That's that's martyr me, the Darrell Cooper kind of waters, you know. It is. It is. And I've become increasingly interested in this sort of historical revisionism around World War II, because it seems old hat, right? It seems like it shouldn't be... Yeah, long, long time discredited.

Yeah, like there is seemingly an increasingly large number of younger people who know jack shit about real history, but have consumed a lot of this kind of pseudo history, just like there's people out there consuming pseudo-archaeological stuff too. And that's their thing. From their point of view, all the narratives we were told about World War II and stuff are all wrong, right? They're all lies and stuff, and they're finding out

what really happened, the hidden knowledge, the forbidden knowledge, the forbidden knowledge. And this is what's absolutely true. So it is the Martyr made. It is the dark enlightenment bullshit. And they think they're so smart. And I can see us people in the Orthodox institutional conventional sort of thing, I guess we did set ourselves up for this a little bit, maybe, I don't know.

But I'm not quite sure how we got ourselves in this situation where these, with these young people. Oh no. Cause like, it doesn't matter. I don't think, I think it just comes in weaves. Like, because you know, they had this thing that the Darrell Cooper was constantly saying about World War II was like, they don't allow, you know, nobody talks about the German

perspective. Nobody's looked into Hitler. And you're like, what are you talking about? Like, if there's one person in history and one conflict that people have looked into endlessly in, you know, like incredible depth from every perspective imaginable, it's World War II. It's not hard to find, you know, there's multiple multi-volume works on the events of World War II or Hitler or this kind of thing. But he's still able to say nobody's allowed to talk about it. Well, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I guess what I'm talking to is not the reality of professional historians and so on. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I guess what I'm talking to is not the reality of like professional historians and so on. I'm talking about the sort of subjective impression. Like why is that narrative that, oh, you're not allowed to talk about this.

We've been spun this Schmaltzy narrative, right? Why is that so appealing, right, to people who have gone through normal school systems and normal educational systems or whatever and I don't know I suspect maybe that kind of like alternative takes has been given the I don't know the premature of exciting forbidden knowledge and You know what I mean? Like I'm not saying they're not unless thing is really our fault. It's their fault, right? They shouldn't be doing it. They're the bad guys here. I'm very clear who the baddies are Yeah They shouldn't be doing it. They're the bad guys here. I'm very clear who the baddies are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unlike, yeah.

Yeah. Um, but these pseudo historical narratives, um, get so much traction because we've somehow left ourselves open to that, to that. Um, yeah. I mean, I think it would be good for people to like be more informed about, you know, conspiracy theorists and historical revisionism and any manner of these kind of things. Like, you know, learn about the way that David Irvine approached the topic and like how he went from respected historian with just an interest in the German side of things. He just was trying to represent, he was extending cognitive empathy. Oh, whoops, he's extended it way too far,

and he's now giving speeches at neo-Nazi rallies. I do think it would be good for people to know this because when you actually learn about all these, you know, figures which are themed conspiracy theorists and whatnot, they're actually often fairly prophetic, fairly lazy people. David Irving, at least, was a historian, right? But like, he's an interesting case, actually, because I watched another thing where someone had was basically signing another historian who actually testified at his trial, right? So in the trial against Penguin and stuff like that, this historian he's known and forgotten was the one, he went off and could pull this massive big report, basically fact checking a whole bunch of claims.

And not just the big claims around, like Hitler was a friend to the Jews and really, you know, it was all the, it was just an unhappy accident about the death camps and so on. But like the detailed claims and it's really revealing to go through the individual claims that David Irving makes because this is the way pseudo history works, right? It's quite clever really. They basically take something that happened, misconstrues it, mis-portrays it, and puts this huge amount of spin on it. So it's actually, so the, the meaning that the reader is taking, it's got grains of truth, right? They're citing kind of something that really objectively happened, like some

memorandum or some talk we're hearing some testimonies there, but the spin is given to it. So the meaning taking from it is exactly the opposite of what really happened. But if you go back and find the sources that are being cited, usually it's very obscure and David Irving does tend to not actually give very good citations to make it actually difficult to find where this stuff is coming from. You see that he's clearly quite consciously misrepresented everything. Right.

Like, I really just lied about a lot of the details, but there's enough of a sprinkling of historical details in there, enough grains there to give it the semblance of properly researched history. So this is what pseudo history is. And it's like pseudo archeology and a lot of these other pseudo sciences we look into. Yeah. And they often don't mind to like kind of condemn various other overt racist or whatever as like, no, that's not what I'm saying. Right? Like, I'm not a part of that. But it's good to have people that you can condemn and conspiracy theorists do it too. Right. They, they point out other people that they disagree with because it kind of indicates that they are not swallowing everything, right?

They're critical. And yeah, it gives you appearance that there's like a robust kind of intellectual inquiry going. Yeah. So yeah, this, yeah, this, that's, uh, intellectualism. It's, it's a worry. It's quite easy to pretend. Well, Matt, that sets intellectualism. It's a worry, it's quite easy to pretend. Well, Matt, that sets up a phlegmatic segue as it happens.

Because you are talking about creating the impression of kind of critical mind, pouring over the data, trying to work through things and coming to these discoveries that, you know, the mainstream haven't really observed yet. Now, let's turn to Andrew Huberman. Andrew Huberman's co-founder of something, Rob Moore, posted out on Twitter, solo episode. These are episodes with just Andrew, weeks of preparation and a full day spent recording. No transcript, no teleprompter,

just two cameras and a microphone. Our guest episodes are fun to capture, but the solos have a special magic to them. Tomorrow, we return with a solo episode. The first 10 months, it's on the Vegas nerve. How it's critical to your mood, energy, digestion, resilience, and more. Make sure to tune in. And what he's helpfully added here is a picture of Huberman in a kind of minimalistic room with kind of black marble desk and black wall with a black and white photo on it, a couple of shrubs, wooden chairs. But across the whole table, there's just stacks of papers spread out, you know, like individual pages, diagrams, all of it. And who is there with his glasses making notes on a sheet by hand, right?

So this is how you do research, Matt. You know, you put all the notes just laid out on the table and then you set with your pen and you read deeply and you scribble in the edges and so on. And it's like people do do this. OK, I have done this at various times when I was working on the essays and stuff when I was an undergraduate. But two things. One, now most of those papers are redundant

because they're on screens in front of you for most people. And two, it does seem somewhat for most people. And two, it does seem somewhat performative to take a picture of that posted item. Because it's not a happy snap, right? It's a very nicely composed production style image, you know, epitomizing the intellectual work. I've seen this image, Chris. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the thing like on Lex Friedman stuff, like this stick of going so much work. I've been preparing for months for this. I've read hundreds of books. Look, here's a photo of me doing the work looking at the series. Yeah, that's and you know, part of the issue here is we've looked at Huberman whenever he's reviewing articles critically.

We covered him during the kind of journal club with Peter Adyett, and Huberman cannot critically review research. He's like a pre-replication crisis researcher. And many people have pointed out the way that he overhypes small end studies or draws wild extrapolations from fairly minor results. Or that he doesn't understand the basics of probability and t-tests. I think a great plot twist is if all of those papers on the table, they were all elementary tutorials on probability and t-tests, and he's there with his glasses studying them going, I just don't get it yet, but I'm wicking away. Be careful, Matt. You can see some of them are cross sections of like the nervous system and whatnot. So it's high level stuff. Okay. And, and just to be clear as well, you know, it's not just that,

it's not just that Lex and Huberman and whatnot do research. It's also that they're discovering things that nobody till now has really got. Only maybe a couple of renegades. So here's what Huberman did. He retweeted that image and he said, learned preparing for this one that among other things, 90% of what you hear about the vagus nerve and HRV on the internet, people have 100% backwards. Tomorrow, I'll explain and your HRV will thank you.

So it's, you know, everything you thought you knew about the vagus nerve, Matt, it's about to be blown. And Huberman's done it because he's done the work. He sat at the fancy table with his glasses and read the papers and yeah, it's like research porn or something like that's not something that actual researchers tend to post, right? So yeah. Yeah.

What do they call it? A super stimulus? Yeah. Yeah. That's like, that's the point of it. Yeah. I mean, the thing that I, that I learned about him recently is like, we already knew about just like how many commercial endorsements he's got. He must be just raking in so much money because there's dozens and dozens of sponsorship deals and so on in play. Um, but the one that

I learned about recently, I didn't realize this, was that he's sponsored by this company that makes those orange glasses, those red lens, eyewear that filters out short wavelength light, because apparently the blue wavelengths late at night, you know, will be bad, right? And that's a bit different from all of his other ones, like AG1 and everything. Because with this, like this actually is connected one to his

speciality in ophthalmology and sleep science and all of that kind of thing. And two, it's different because before he got this sponsorship, he's on record for like totally debunking all of this stuff about blue light. He's given long talks about how people say that you've got to work, actually, it makes no difference. It doesn't matter. Totally skeptical about the whole thing, but lo and behold.

It strikes me that the Huberman generally doesn't do that. Like he doesn't say that he's sorry. No, it does sound a bit off-brand. No, but that's right. But I've seen the clip. It was secondhand, but I saw the clip of him talking about it, which was, uh, yeah, you know, he was just, he was in debunked mode. He was in his kind of, you know, respectable look.

A lot of people think this, but actually doesn't matter about the wavelength, the light, all of that stuff. Doesn't really matter. First of all, what matters is this, but that changed as soon as he got the sponsorship for the Roka. It's Roka X. Huberman lab. And that's the eyeglasses.

So you can, you know, you can get them out and look cool like Huberman or Chris Williamson sometimes wears those kind of glasses as well. So, yeah, yeah. Well, well, Matt, from a faux pretender of someone who engages in deep research and has revolutionary insights, we move to Chris Langan, the highest IQ holder in the world. A man that needs no introduction. We covered him. And would it surprise you to know that Chris Langan writes hugely indulgent tweets, like extremely long ones? Yeah, and he opines on a variety of subjects, Matt.

Very often the topics he manages to angle them around to discussions of race. That's something that he likes to do, as you will see here. But I find him tweeting out about Eric Weinstein, Jordan Peterson and Elon Musk, and he is giving his opinion on them. And his tweets, Matt, they contain so much condensed generosity that it's like on Optinium or something like, you know, hitting the rare mineral that you're like, oh, this is the potent guru stuff. Like it's it's all in there. And it makes more subtle gurus look sort of by comparison.

They look much better. But also it reveals like they are doing just the same thing as him, but like in a less obvious way. Right. As you'll see. So first he was asked for his thoughts on Eric Weinstein. Okay. I mean, he gave his thoughts, Matt. He's got a lot of them. The usual level of research that we expect in the grocery here. That all depends. I've heard of a mathematician, finance executive, theory of everything theorist called Eric Weinstein. Apparently, he and his brother have a V log of some other kind of internet show. I've never sat through an episode of it and haven't formed an opinion on it.

There's a shocker. However, there's also an Eric R. Weinstein who wrote a paper called Migration for the Benefit of All towards a New Paradigm. Gurus. Once you do, you'll get access to full-length episodes of the Decoding the Gurus podcast, including bonus shows, Gurometer episodes, and Decoding Academia. The Decoding the Gurus podcast is ad-free and relies entirely on listener support. Subscribing will save the rainforest, bring about global peace, and save Western civilization. And if you cannot afford $2, you can request a free membership and we will honor zero of those requests.

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