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Episode Date: July 27, 2026Headlines for July 27, 2026; “Frontlines of a Burning World”: Climate Change-Fueled “Megafires” Sweep Europe & North America; “Iraq 2.0”?: Rep. Jim McGovern on ...Iran War, New Red Scare, Israeli War Crimes & Dem Party Divide; Israeli Army & Settlers Are Working Together to “Ethnically Cleanse” West Bank: Mariam Barghouti
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From New York, this is Democracy Now.
I saw clouds of smoke rising into the sky.
That's when I realized something was happening.
I think we all panicked.
Then we received the message telling us to get ready.
Take whatever valuables we could.
Whatever was most important.
I took my cat and we left.
Massive wildfires have forced more than 360,000 people in France and Spain to evacuate.
with France conducting its largest peacetime evacuation since World War II.
We'll go to Spain and we'll speak with journalist John Valiant about climate change.
He's author of Fire Weather on the front lines of a burning world.
Then the House passes a resolution calling on President Trump to withdraw from Iran.
We'll speak to Democratic Congress member Jim McGovern of Massachusetts.
Thing is just so transparently built on lies. Republicans went from imminent threat to regime change to nukes back to imminent threat in the last 24 hours. I'll tell you what this is, Mr. Speaker. This is Iraq 2.0.
We'll speak with the congressman about foreign policy from Iran to Cuba, hunger in the United States, and more. And finally, as Israeli settlers torch two mosques amidst a deadly surrogly.
and violence in the West Bank. We'll speak with Palestinian journalist Mariam Barguti.
She recently testified before the UN Security Council.
I will emphasize it again. These Israeli acts are not random, but they are organized,
state-sponsored crime. And Palestinians in the West Bank are no longer wondering whether
a crime will be enacted. Now it is a matter of when rather than if.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is visiting President Trump at the White House for the first time since Israel and the U.S. started bombing Iran in February.
All that and more coming up.
Welcome to Democracy Now, Democracy Now.org, the Warren Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman.
The U.S. has paused bombing Iran for a third straight night after senior Trump administration officials reportedly warned the president about Dwind the law.
munitions stockpiles. In response, Iran said it would pause retaliatory strikes against U.S.
bases across the Middle East. Over the weekend, the Pentagon updated its official war casualty
database, adding more than 140 wounded service members. The new figures show 18 U.S. troops have
been killed and 624 wounded since the U.S. launched its war against Iran back in February.
The Pentagon separating the casualty figures, deaths and injuries after the ceasefire ended on July 7th are listed in a separate database labeled generically as overseas operations casualties, unquote.
Meanwhile, Iran's foreign ministry accused Ukraine of attacking an Iranian commercial vessel in the Caspian Sea, saying one sailor was killed and another injured.
The Ukrainian president, Volodemir Zelensky, accused Russia of passing on to Iran its satellite observations in the Middle East, allowing Iran to launch attacks across the region.
This comes as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is set to visit the White House Tuesday for the first time since the U.S. and Israel started bombing Iran in February.
Despite the lull in fighting, Britain said its armed forces were ready to defend itself after Iran,
Revolutionary Guard Corps warned the U.K. not to allow U.S. bombers to fly from U.K. bases.
On Thursday, the IRGC claimed the U.S. had flown bombing missions against Iran from Fairford-Ear
Air Base in southwest England. The U.S. war in Iran has spread to a second front to include
Yemen. Yemen's Houthi rebels over the weekend struck sites belonging to the Saudi state oil
giant Aramco on the Red Sea coast. On Friday, the U.S.
a Saudi-led military alliance, bombed Houthi military positions in the Red Sea Port of Huda.
In France and Spain, devastating wildfires have forced more than 360,000 people to evacuate their homes,
the largest evacuation in France's history since World War II.
The fires began in the southwest of France Wednesday before spreading to Spain.
In France, 2,500 firefighters, 1,500 military personnel, and nearly 1,200 police have been deployed to bring the fires under control.
It comes as a new heat wave is expected to hit Europe this week with temperature soaring to 40 degrees Celsius.
That's 104 degrees Fahrenheit.
This is a Spanish resident whose village has been engulfed by fires.
We in the village are completely surrounded by all the fires.
In the end, the fires here and those in Almorou and Villa del Prado have merged.
The one coming from Burgondo is 10 kilometers from here and is already reaching this area.
What we are seeing right now is that they have also joined together.
In other words, the three fires from the three protests are going to merge.
And what we are seeing is devastation, fear, anguish,
I don't know. It's impossible to explain.
We'll go to Spain after headlines to speak with a professor who is evacuated and also speak with John Valiant.
He is author of the book, Fire Weather.
In Germany, a man allegedly drove a minivan into a crowd of people near Berlin's Pride Celebration Saturday,
killing one person and injuring 29 others.
Authorities later shot and killed the man during an Operation Sunday.
The suspect was identified.
as Abdul Balaut, a 21-year-old German citizen, according to authorities.
He tried to join the Islamic State and was released from prison in May despite being jailed
for preparing an attack.
This is Berlin's mayor, Kai Wagner.
I can only say that Berlin, as a city of freedom and diversity, will continue to stand strong
and make its position clear.
We will not allow anyone to take away our way of life or the way we live together.
Here in New York, a man stabbed two people in broad daylight last week.
The New York police departments investigating whether the stabbings or hate crimes.
The first victim was a 57-year-old Asian man, the second 50-year-old Jewish man.
So far this year, the number of confirmed hate crimes has risen nearly 8% in New York City compared to the same period last year.
In Seattle, Washington, three people were killed and four others wounded in a shooting at the bite of Seattle Food Festival.
near the needle on Sunday. The injured included a two-year-old boy. Police are searching for one
suspect and have another in custody. In Gaza, two Hamas security officials were killed Sunday in an
Israeli strike. Al Jazeera reports Israeli forces targeted their vehicle while traveling through
Dera Balah. The head of the police in northern Gaza was also killed in a separate Israeli attack
on Saturday. This all comes as a new report warns more than two-third.
Hundreds of Palestinians in Gaza are likely to suffer from acute hunger by the end of this year
as humanitarian aid organizations face funding shortages while Israel continues to restrict the entry of food and other life-saving supplies.
Currently, about 1.2 million people in Gaza face acute hunger.
That figure could rise to more than 1.4 million Palestinians by December.
In related news, Israel's approved the deployment of an international security force into Gaza as part of President Trump's so-called ceasefire agreement.
The unit will reportedly include about 200 members from countries including Uganda and Morocco.
In the occupied West Bank, Israeli settlers torched two mosques over the weekend in the latest wave of violent attacks on several Palestinian towns and villages.
this is a resident of Klu-Sera.
This is a religious crime.
It is a moral crime at all.
They are thieves, and you can call them with all the bad descriptions
because there is no human on the planet that tortures a religious place.
This comes as Israeli military forces Saturday detained over 70 Palestinians
in raids across the occupied West Bank.
The arrests and attack on the mosques followed the killing of at least four Palestinians
in the town of Tal Friday.
when Israeli settlers and soldiers opened fire on residents attempting to protect their homes.
Two Israeli soldiers were also killed.
Several Israeli activists were arrested in Tel Aviv over the weekend during a protest against
intensifying Israeli settler violence on Palestinians.
Some of the protesters held signs that read resist Zionist terror.
Francesca Albanese, the UN's special rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories,
has condemned the Israeli settler attacks as, quote, pogroms against defenseless civilians, unquote.
The International Criminal Court has voted to remove Chief Prosecutor Kareem Khan following
sexual misconduct allegations against him that emerged two years ago.
This is the first time in ICC chief prosecutor has ever been removed from office.
Khan had already been suspended from his role in June pending the ICC's oversight bodies vote.
Khan was accused of sexual misconduct by a female aid. He's denied the allegations.
Khan's removal comes as the Trump administration is threatening to dismantle the ICC brick by brick.
In India, the education minister Darmendra Pratton resigned after a week of mass demonstrations led by the
Cockroach Janta Party. Hundreds of thousands of young people took to the streets after an exam,
Some leak scandal led to more than a dozen students taking their own lives.
The violent police response led to sit-ins and drew more people to participate in the demonstrations.
This is Abidjit Dipka, the founder of the Cockroach Party.
It's a victory for the Constitution of India.
It's a victory for the people of India.
And it's a debate more the dictator.
The White House Correspondents Association dinner was,
held Friday three months after it was disrupted by a gunman.
During an hour-long speech, President Trump attacked journalists, comedians, Democrats,
as well as members of his own cabinet.
He even joked about running for president again.
I want to save your ratings.
I'm pleased to announce my intention to, and this is somewhat of a scoop,
my intention to run for a fourth term.
as president of the United States.
I will be doing that.
I will be having an official.
In fact, I think I have, yeah.
I won three times.
Now I'm going to do it again.
Thank you.
I'm going to do it.
Paramount Skydance announced
it's halting its merger
with Warner Brothers discovery
until July of next year
after a lawsuit from
Democratic states. Paramount's also facing a lawsuit from the Writers Guild of America, which
argues the merger would lead to job losses for screenwriters and journalists.
Paramount Skydance is run by David Ellison, whose father, Larry Ellison, the billionaire founder
of Oracle and a prominent ally and financial backer of President Trump.
Under the proposed deal, CNN and CBS News, streaming services, HBO Max and Paramount Plus, as well as
film and television studios would all be combined under a single entity control by the Ellisons.
The U.K. is also threatening to sue over the merger. To see our interview with the California
Attorney General Ron Banta, go to Democracy Now.org. In Houston, Texas, protests continued
this weekend in response to the ice killing of the 52-year-old Mexican father Lorenzo Salgado Araujo.
Dozens of groups and businesses led an economic blackout Friday while hundreds of protesters marched to Houston City Hall Saturday demanding justice and for the ICE agents involved in the fatal shooting to be identified.
Advocates have also called for the release of key witnesses from ICE custody, one of whom is Salgado's younger brother, Victor.
This comes as the Harris County District Attorney's Office confirmed a white powder found in Salgado's van was not drugs, but an electrolyte salt mixture to stay hydrated while working in construction during Houston's scorching summer.
The substance was the subject of an unsealed FBI search warrant.
David Donati, senior staff attorney at the ACLU of Texas, said in a statement, quote,
By taking the unusual steps of securing and then unsealing their search warrant, the government,
The government's demonstrated it's more interested in creating a false narrative than in seeking the truth.
The Salgadoes deserve real answers about what happened to their father, and we reiterate our call for an independent and complete investigation, the ACLU said.
The Congressional Hispanic Caucus Friday held an oversight hearing in Houston on Salgado's ICE killing, where two of his sons, Ronaldo and Lorenzo Jr., testified.
To see our coverage of the case, go to DemocracyNow.org.
A group of Venezuelan men who were wrongfully removed from the United States
and sent to the notorious Salvador in Seckot Prison
have filed a lawsuit against the two U.S. aviation firms
that chartered the three flights to El Salvador last year.
The suit accuses CSI aviation and global acts
of violating the men's civil rights as well as U.S. and international law
for transporting them to El Salvador
where many described facing torture.
The lawsuit was filed earlier this month by several groups, including the Kennedy Human Rights Center and was first reported by the Guardian.
In March of last year, more than 230 Venezuelan men were rounded up and deported to El Salvador after the Trump administration invoked the Alien Enemies Act, accusing the men without evidence of being gang members.
Federal health officials announced a new outbreak of cyclosporiasis, impacting 72 people.
About 4,100 people have been infected with the cyclospora parasite.
According to the CDC, at least 98 people have been hospitalized as cases have been reported in at least 41 U.S. states.
critics have talked about the gutting of CDC by Doge.
And in Maine, Democrats have selected Troy Jackson to replace Graham Platner as their U.S. Senate candidate at a convention on Saturday.
Plattner dropped out of his race after an ex-girlfriend accused him of rape.
Jackson is a former logger and former Maine state legislator who was the Maine State Senate president.
He will face Republican Senator Susan Collins, a five-term incumbent in November.
This is Jackson accepting his party's nomination for Senate.
We need someone with courage.
We need a fighter.
And we need a senator who remembers exactly who sent them to Washington, which is you.
Let's unite this party.
Let's build the largest working class movement made as ever seen.
And let's win this fight.
Troy Jackson was endorsed by the DSA, the Democratic Socialists of America, when he ran for governor.
And those are some of the headlines.
This is DemocracyNow.comocracy.org, the Warren Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman.
In France and Spain, devastating wildfires have forced more than 350,000 people to evacuate their homes.
It's among the largest peacetime evacuations in France since World War II.
At least 4,600 emergency personnel have been deployed to the southwest of France, where the fires began Wednesday before spreading to Spain.
Earlier this summer, Western Europe experienced its hottest June on record.
Meanwhile, conditions are expected to worsen later this week as another heat wave could surge temperatures to 40 degrees Celsius.
That's 104 degrees Fahrenheit or more.
Speaking Sunday, Spain's Prime Minister, Pedro Sanchez, warned of complex.
complicated hours ahead as Spain battles to control the blazes.
I think the scale of the disaster we are experiencing,
unfortunately, once again in our country, is very difficult to comprehend.
Yesterday, we reported that 130,000 hectares had been affected and burned so far this year.
Tilley, less than 24 hours later, that figure has already risen to more than 150,000 hectares.
For more, we're joined by two guests.
joining us from Spain, Professor Angel Luis Lada, sociologist and associate professor of Ibero-American
Cultural Studies at SUNY Old Westbury. He and his family have just evacuated from a municipality west of Madrid.
He will join us from the province of Toledo in the Castile La Mancha region. And joining us from Vancouver as John Valiant,
award-winning journalist, author of several books, including most recently Fire Weather on the front-line.
of a burning world, a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize and the National Book Award.
We welcome you both to Democracy Now.
Let's begin with Professor Anhe Luis Lada.
Can you describe the scene on the ground?
I mean, in France, I think this is the biggest evacuation since World War II, the fire spreading to Spain,
what it meant to be uprooted from your home, the devastation of communities as they burn to the ground.
Professor, on Hel Luis Lada.
Hello, Amy, and thank you for having me.
Yeah, my family and I were evacuated three days ago from Chapinaria,
which is a small town in the West Area of the region of Madrid,
30 miles out from the city.
And the fire was just getting way to close to our village,
and the air quality was starting to get really dangerous for our health.
So the local authorities decided to evacuate all the people there.
However, we consider ourselves incredibly lucky, right?
Because even though the flames made it right into our street and the house right across from ours was born to the ground, our place took just some minor damage.
So we're lucky.
Just to give you an idea of how severe the situation is you got to consider that around 30,000, thousands of us have been directly evacuated across the region of Maddo.
And 20,000 more have been placed under lockdown orders because of this out-of-control fires.
If you include, you know, neighboring regions impacted by the same series of places like Avila, the region of Avila, for example,
the number of evacuations exceeds 60,000 people with overall affected residents,
reaching over 95,000 people.
And some of these people have lost absolutely everything.
Their homes, their animals.
So many families are sleeping in sports centers or emergency tents right now.
And for the folks who make a living off the land,
you know, especially for them losing their crops and livestock,
is just devastating.
So I would say that as crazy as these past few days have been for my family, I consider ourselves very lucky because we are safe.
Professor, can you talk about the firefighter strike in Madrid?
They had been warning for years about being under-resourced, had been going without a contract for years.
and they are in, as are many of the autonomous regions, this one, Madrid, a conservative-controlled area
where the head of the region talks about climate changes being propaganda.
Yeah, I'm afraid that it is just not enough to blame the weather for the situation regarding the wildfire,
as we are dealing with in Spain and also, I would say, in southern Europe now.
I think we have to dig deeper because we are dealing with a deeply political issue
driven by what I consider are three main factors.
The first, obviously, is the undeniable reality of climate change, right?
The extreme temperatures and severe drug conditions have created a new category of sixth-generation
wildfires.
And these are not normal fires.
They are so intense that they create their own weather systems, right?
And making them virtually impossible to extinguish until the weather seeds.
But there is a second factor related to this strategy you told before,
which is decades of neoliberal policies that have diminished public services in the region of Madrid,
especially and in all the regions all around Spain.
Spain is a decentralized country made of 17 autonomous regions with significant self-governing powers,
and 11 of those regions are run by conservative and far-right parties pushing aggressively to dismantle public services.
So in fact, as you said before, right when these wildfires broke out,
some of Madrid's
wildland firefighters
had been on strike
for 40 days straight,
protesting precarious working conditions
and a severe lack
of resources.
So, as I said before,
and this
situation with the five fighters
in the region of Madrid
shows up, you know, this is not
just about weather.
This has to do with a
political issue
which is going on in regions like Madrid, right, based on these new liberal policies that are diminishing dramatically public services.
I want to bring John Valiant into the conversation, award-winning journalist and author of several books, most recently,
fire weather on the front lines of a burning world.
Here in New York, we experience the smoke from the Canadian fire,
wildfires and, of course, all over the United States, they did. To say the least, this is an
intensification in Spain and fire. Can you talk about what's causing this fire weather? What does it
mean to be as we're hearing a description on the front lines of a burning world and what can be
done about it, John? Yeah, thanks, Amy. When that subtitle was conceived, it sounded like hyperbole.
the front lines of a burning world. But we're really seeing that right now. Oregon and Washington
State are also burning ferociously right now, in addition to British Columbia and Ontario and
Southern Europe and North Africa, massive fires everywhere. And we're seeing this accumulation
of decades of intensifying heat, which promotes drought. And so these conditions have been
slowly building and worsening for decades, basically vindicating, unfortunately, the warnings of
climate scientists and firefighters who have been fearing these kind of collaborative events,
where, as we've heard, large fires are merging together, creating megafires that are then
create conditions that are impossible for humans to respond to meaningfully. So what we're
seeing in Spain and France now are flames exceeding 100 meters. So these are 30-story tall
flames. These are, you can't respond to these in a meaningful way with water. French pilots are
describing water bomber drops of thousands and thousands of gallons that are evaporating in the heat
before they even touch the flames. So what we've created a kind of chimera of fire that is
impossible to respond to in a meaningful way. And really, now the weather and the wind are
determining our collective fate in these situations. One firefighter speaking to Agence France
Press, AFP, reported seeing a pyro cumulonimbus, a fire-generated thunderstorm. Now, this is common
in Australia and Canada, but can you talk about the significant
of this being seen in France? I mean, there's, it seems like maybe you knew this word. I sure didn't.
There are new words now. And I had to learn it to write fire weather. Pyrocumulonimbus clouds are
fire-generated thunderstorms. They can puncture the stratosphere. These fire systems that turn,
the say they rotate the same way hurricanes do, they can be 45,000,
tall. They generate their own lightning. They produce black hail. And these lightning strikes can strike
30 or 40 miles away from the center of the fire, starting new fires. So it becomes essentially a self-perpetuation
machine of fire that is literally unstoppable. And in Reading, California in 2018, one of these systems
generated an actual EF3 tornado, 165-mile-an-hour winds that tore houses from their foundations
and lifted F-150 pickup trucks and threw them through the air, killing and burning and crushing
their occupants. It's extraordinary kind of end-times-class energy that is being released by these
systems now. Can you respond to President Trump,
accusing Canada of poisoning the air in the United States, even threatening to impose new tariffs on Canada
over the recent levels of hazardous air. Yet, you know, one of his mantras, as he ran for president again and continues, is burn baby.
Burn is drill baby drill, I should say. Yeah, and drill baby drill corresponds to burn baby burn. And the more fuel we burn.
as human beings, the more fuel wildfires will burn across our landscapes.
You know, Trump is a cynical, self-serving guy with no concept of how natural systems work or even how smoke behaves.
Right now, the bulk of the smoke sweeping across the northern American states right now is coming from Washington and Oregon.
smoke and pollution and climate change, no, no boundaries.
If anyone is really at fault here, it would be the major emitters of CO2 and methane,
and that would be in North America, the United States.
So I think if we want to reduce our temperature, if we want to reduce our fire risk,
the first thing we have to do is reduce our emissions.
And that is something that the U.S. has steadfastly refused to do its current administration in any case.
And unfortunately, Canada is following suit, actively expanding its fossil fuel operations,
proposing new pipelines to the West Coast and into the United States.
So thereby digging us deeper and deeper into this CO2 debt and methane debt that is causing these fires.
Finally, Professor Anja Luis Lata, you yourself again have been evacuated.
Can you talk about the Prime Minister, Pedro Sanchez, renewing calls for a climate pact for all the political parties of Spain?
I mean, the current government, the central government of Spain, has been, you know, calling the rest of the political parties for a national agreement regarding, you know, the claimant.
change and that the situation we're dealing with related to claimant. But there is this
permanent refusal of the conservative and the five-right parties to participate in a general
and common agreement. So Spain now is dealing with real, I would say, deep, you know,
tension between the conservative and the five-right parties and the government. And the situation
is very complicated.
I want to thank you both for being with us.
Of course, we'll continue to cover the fire weather.
Anhe Luis Lada, sociologist and associate professor of Ibero-American cultural studies at Sunni, Old Westbury,
just evacuated from his home near Madrid.
And John Valiant, award-winning journalist and author, his latest book,
Fire Weather on the front lines of a burning world.
Coming up, Massachusetts, Democratic Congress member,
Jim McGovern of Massachusetts on Iran to Cuba. Stay with us.
Memories of the Alambra by Harry Ferry. This is DemocracyNow. DemocracyNow.org,
the Warren Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman. The U.S. is pause bombing Iran for a third straight night
after senior Trump officials reportedly warned the president about dwindling munitions stockpiles
In response, Iran said it would pause retaliatory strikes against U.S. bases across the Middle East.
Last week, the entire Democratic House caucus and four Republicans voted to pass a resolution calling on Trump to withdraw U.S. forces from hostilities against Iran.
We're joined now by one of those Democrats, Congressman Jim McGovern of Massachusetts.
He's been a vocal critic of Trump's foreign policy from the war in Iran to the administration's targeting of Cuba.
He served in Congress since 1997 is the ranking member of the House Rules Committee.
You have described Congress member, and welcome to democracy now.
Iran as Iraq 2.0, explain.
Well, it's just like Iraq.
We're getting involved in a quagmi here, an endless war, you know, a war based on arrogance and bad intelligence.
And the bottom line is this war in Iran is not only risky, it's illegal.
and it's costly, tens of billions of dollars going into this war in which there is no way for us to
succeed or accomplish any of the goals that Donald Trump said he wanted to accomplish.
But I'm really particularly frustrated because the House of Representatives and Congress in general
has ceded its power and its authority to the executive branch.
We should be voting on whether to authorize a war in Iran.
I don't think a majority in the House or Senate would vote to do that,
But we should be voting on these things.
We should just give that power to the president.
And the Speaker of the House is to blame here.
Look, you know, we just reported that Trump has kind of put a pause on bombing.
Let's hope that that remains.
But with him, you never know.
I mean, in a week or two, I mean, he could launch an intensified attack.
And if that is the case, the Speaker of the House ought to call Congress back into a special session
because we're in recess now.
and we ought to debate it, there ought to be oversight, and we ought to vote on it.
The speaker should stand up to the president and stand for the powers of the legislative branch and stop being a coward.
So what would it mean if a war powers resolution was passed by the House and the Senate?
What exactly would that force President Trump to do?
Well, if we were in sync, it would ultimately end funding for the war.
I mean, that is how you end wars.
we have to stop the funding
because this president will do whatever the hell he wants to do
and he doesn't care about the law.
So, you know, right now these votes are largely symbolic
but I think it shows, you know,
that where the majority of Congress stands on this stuff.
Congress stands with the American people.
Only 28% of the American people think this war is worth it.
Everybody else is against it.
I mean, and people are horrified by the fact
that the United States of America,
we're dropping bombs on elementary schools in Iran
when they'd rather have that money spent
to building elementary schools here in the United States.
We're committing human rights crimes
in the conduct of this war as well.
So talk about last week we saw Hegseth go before the Senate
and talk about why the Pentagon needs tens of billions of dollars more
in dealing with Iran,
and how could the Democrats desert the soldiers?
Very interesting, by the way, about the count on soldiers dead because of outcry.
I mean, the last four soldiers, they were taken off the list of the dead because they died after President
Trump declared ceasefire. They've been added back as well as, apparently, something like 140
soldiers who've been hurt adding to something like well over 600 injured and 18 killed.
That's U.S. Iran, we don't know the number.
The lack of candor is concerning in and of itself.
But the fact that the Secretary of Defense goes before the Senate and says, give me tens of billions of dollars more for this war,
when they still have tens of billions of dollars in unspent money, tells you that they're thinking of a war that's going to go on for quite some time.
Look, I mean, our defense bill budget now is going to be like $1.6 trillion when all is put together.
I mean, that's like unbelievable.
I mean, I think Dr. Strange Love would be impressed with that number.
And, you know, I, again, I'm a big critic of this administration,
but even by their standards, listening to the Secretary of Defense
speak before the Senate, I mean, he sounded like a lunatic.
It sounded like they needed to be an intervention.
He didn't answer the questions.
And, you know, the questions that most people had is, you know, what is the strategy?
What is the clearly defined mission?
What is the goal?
How do we get out of this?
you know, when does his end? He had no idea. And he tried to make a referendum on whether you
support the troops or not. Supporting the troops means not putting them in harm's way to begin with.
I mean, it's irresponsible for us to be deploying troops in a situation like this when
the president of the Secretary of Defense don't have a plan at all.
So the question is where do U.S. taxpayers where their money goes? You are co-chair of the
Hunger Caucus and the House of Representatives. If you can talk about the level of hunger in
the United States with the Trump administration cutting food assistance driving up child hunger?
Well, hunger is getting worse in this country. Over 50 million, 5-0, over 50 million Americans
are hungry of food and secure in the United States of America, the richest country in the
history of the world. It's unconscionable, and as a member of Congress, I'm ashamed of that fact.
Trump and the Republicans passed his big ugly bill a little bit a year ago that went on to put new
restrictions in place for SNAP recipients, more work requirements, and is a $200 billion cut to the
program that's going to hit at the end of next year. Already, because of the paperwork and the work
requirements, millions and millions of more people are without the benefit. Millions of children
in this country have lost their food benefit. And it just seems to me that there's something
fundamentally wrong. Well, we have money for bombs. We don't have money to make sure people
this country get fed. And every dollar we invest in food and nutritious and nutrition actually,
you know, saves us money in a whole bunch of other areas. Kids learn better if they're not hungry
when they go to school. People are less likely to get chronic diseases as they have access to good
nutrition and food. But to cut this benefit, by the way, the worst of it's going to hit next year,
you know, in this country that we're tolerating that level of hunger is astounding to me.
I also want to ask you about the divide in the Democratic Party. Former Congress member, Ram Emanuel,
has served as President Obama's chief of staff, was mayor of Chicago, published an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal last week, headlined,
The Bernie Broads could spoil Democrats midterms. He criticizes the role of DSA, Democratic Socialists of America.
He wrote the DSA and others are saddling the Democratic Party with nominees whose wildly wildly unpopular positions will protect Republicans.
from having to pay the price of Donald Trump's corruption and economic incompetence.
Bernie Sanders responded on Face the Nation.
You have an establishment like Rahman Manuel who are dependent on billionaire campaign
contributors and want to maintain the status quo.
Then you have a progressive movement which, by the way, what is getting these guys there
says we are winning all over this country.
It's not only Mamdani in New York City is in New Jersey.
it's in Ohio, it's in Colorado.
People are sick and tired of the Ramanuals
and the Democratic establishment
and the Republican establishment.
The American people are tired of a rigged economy,
a corrupt campaign, finances them.
They want real change.
They don't want Rama Manuel
and the establishment maintaining the status quo.
Can you respond, Congressman McGovern?
I mean, I don't think we should be arguing
amongst ourselves about the decisions
that voters are making. I mean, we need to respect the voters. Part of the reason why, you know,
you see some of these candidates getting elected who the establishment doesn't really like very
much is because people are frustrated that we're not fighting hard enough, that we're not standing
up for bold solutions. People don't want to manage hunger. They want to end it. You know, people don't
want to, you know, get another tax credit on health care. They want us to make sure they can afford
their health care, and that is available for everybody.
And people that want us to manage wars around the world, they want us to bring them to an end.
So, I mean, I think we do our party great harm when we start to have this kind of infighting.
I mean, I trust the people.
And for me, I tell people all the time that whoever wins the Democratic nomination in a particular
race in my state, I'm going to support them.
So you have been in Congress for almost 30 years.
You have championed democracy in Latin America.
You were as what, a staffer for Congressman Mowgli investigating the six Jesuit priests.
Who were murdered in El Salvador in 1989.
And found.
In fact, we found that they were murdered by the Salvadoran armed forces who were trained and armed by the United States government.
So you've been a major critic of U.S. policy in Latin America.
I want to get your response.
to, well, you shared your response on the floor of the House last week about a new red scare,
the State Department, accusing the Cuban government of waging a sustained campaign of subversion
against the United States, claiming Cuba is backing a number of groups, including National Lawyers
Guild, Code Pink, Pastors for Peace, National Network on Cuba, and they've subpoenaed a number
of organizations, including the People's Forum, down the road from here, breakthrough
news and others. And I'm wondering your response to what is going on here. I mean, I feel like the
ghost of Joe McCarthy is, you know, is appearing in Washington, D.C. right now. I mean, what this
administration is doing by targeting its critics and members of the free press is what you
would see in an authoritarian country. I mean, it is a drift toward fascism, if you will. And quite
frankly, our policy toward Cuba is a disaster. It's an embarrassment. We should lift the embargo.
We should have normal relations with the Cuban people. We should let the Cuban people decide their
future. It shouldn't be decided by Marco Rubio or people in Washington. And right now, our
intensified sanctions and embargo is resulting in starvation on the Cuban island, people not being able
to get health care, people without electricity. I mean, it is a human rights crime. And it needs
to stop. And so I reject what the administration is doing, and I think our policy
to Cuba is a disaster. I also want to ask you about the case of Veto Corral, a Colombian asylum
seeker who was living in Arizona detained at his home by U.S. immigration agents in June
after he filed criminal charges against the Colombian far-right presidential candidate,
Abelardo de la Espreya, who became president.
He was deported to Columbia on July 16th.
Shortly after he was detained, you wrote online,
I'm very troubled by allegations of coordination between American officials and Colombian political actors in this arrest.
That would amount to our government aiding and abetting transnational repression.
Explain.
I mean, there are foreign governments that target citizens from their country who come to the United States,
are critics of their government. China does it, Iran did it, Pakistan, India does it, and so do a lot
of countries in Central America. And the fact that we are sending this guy back to Colombia,
Beethoven back to Colombia, where there's a new president, a right-wing president, who may end
up jailing him, or, you know, God knows what else, is, again, us being part of transnational
repression. We are guilty of the things that we're criticizing other countries.
of doing. Look, I think it, my view, I co-cha the Human Rights Commission in Congress. I think
if the United States stands for anything, we need to stand out loud and four-square
for human rights, that means not sending people back to dangerous situations, whether it's
in Colombia or Haiti or China or anywhere else. Finally, the Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu,
is coming to Washington. He hasn't met with Trump personally in Washington, D.C.,
since the U.S. and Israel started bombing Iran at the end of February that first day.
the U.S. bombing that girls school, the primary school in Menab.
Here in New York, where you are visiting, the mayor investigated whether he could arrest
Netanyahu because of the arrest warrant of the International Criminal Court.
He concluded he couldn't but raise that issue.
And you have the majority of the voting Democratic caucus for the first time voting to end
military aid except the Iron Dome to Israel, over three billion.
Can you talk about what President Trump, who has been an ally of Netanyahu, what you want to see happen?
Well, what I want to see happen and what will happen are probably two different things.
But President Trump, if he were truly representing the ideals of this country, would tell Benjamin Netanyahu to stop the war crimes.
He is guilty of war crimes.
I mean, I met with the Augusta Victoria hospital staff online a couple of a week ago.
and I mean, young children in Gaza who have cancer are not able to get the treatment they need,
you know, less than an hour away because Netanyahu's government is blocking that.
But there's no question in my mind that Netanyahu is guilty of war crimes.
He should be held accountable.
And we should not be sending one more penny to him to be able to conduct those crimes.
I mean, it is that simple.
If we care about human rights, we have to be consistent.
Jim McGovern, Democratic Congress member from Massachusetts.
Massachusetts for almost 30 years. Coming up, as Israeli settlers torch two mosques amidst a deadly surge
and violence on the West Bank, and there are over 70 arrests on the West Bank alone this weekend.
We'll speak to the Palestinian journalist, Mariam Barguti. She recently testified before the UN Security Council, back in 20 seconds.
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This is Democracy Now,
Democracy Now.org. I'm Amy Goodman. We end today's show in the occupied West Bank, where Israeli settlers
torch two mosques over the weekend in the latest wave of violent attacks on several Palestinian towns and
villages. This is a religious crime. It is a moral crime at all. They are thieves, and you can call
them with all the bad descriptions because there is no human on the planet that torches a religious
place. This comes as Israeli military forces Saturday detained over 70,
Palestinians in raids across the occupied West Bank. The arrest and attack on the mosque followed
the killing of at least four Palestinians in the town of Tal Friday when Israeli settlers and
soldiers opened fire on residents attempting to protect their homes. Two Israeli soldiers
were also killed. Francesca Albanese, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Occupy Palestinian territories,
has condemned the intensifying Israeli settler attacks as, quote,
pogroms against defenseless civilians, unquote.
We're joined now by Mariam Barguti, Palestinian writer and journalist based in Ramallah,
joining us today, though, from Amman Jordan.
She recently addressed the United Nations Security Council on the crisis in the West Bank.
Thanks so much for joining us again, Mariam.
If you can start off by describing what happened this weekend in the West Bank.
Thank you, Amy.
So what we saw over the weekend was an intensified
campaign against Palestinians by the Israeli army and Israeli settlers, which should not be seen
as separate at this point.
The excuse and the justification that the Israeli military and officials such as Benjamin Netanyahu
are using was the killing of two Israeli settlers that were in the West Bank raiding
a Palestinian village or a town.
Now, if you peruse through Hebrew media, you'll think that they were Israelis that were
simply hiking and were killed by Palestinians when, in fact, they were settlers raiding the town
of Tel, southeast of Nablus, north of the West Bank, and a Palestinian man was able to disarm
one of the settlers and confront them. Now, the Israeli army responded by killing at least four
Palestinians and then expanded in what is a familiar pattern of collective punishment, targeting
the entirety of the West Bank, targeting former detainees in specific torturing them, and
them, ensuring checkpoints are closed, meaning Palestinians don't have access to life-saving
resources, such as hospitals, and they're targeting just daily infrastructure. So we're seeing
what is happening is Palestinians are being imprisoned, essentially, in their own towns and villages,
and then attacked by Israeli forces and armed Israeli settlers.
86, at least, according to Al Jazeera, Palestinians have been killed in the occupied West Bank
since the beginning of the year, including 20 fatally shot by Israeli settlers.
The United Nations notes hundreds more have been wounded.
We have about a four-second delay with you responding, Mariam.
But talk about your message to the UN Security Council.
Yes.
So what we're seeing is that there is an escalation of killing Palestinians.
This comes also in light of the impunity that Israel has received in Gaza.
Now, in Gaza, you have the Israeli army, but Israeli settlers serve as an addendum to Israeli
military practices.
So we're not just seeing 86 Palestinians killed since the start of the year.
We've seen more than a thousand killed in the last two years alone, and this comes with
an expansionist project.
So the issue right here is territory, and it is being enforced and taken over for.
forcibly through these violent attacks that create a hostile environment for Palestinians
where simply their presence becomes unsustainable because it means recalibrating just daily
routine to to calculate for Israeli violence.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered a major security operation in the West Bank
following Friday's attacks, reinforcing military units, canceling leave for troops.
He is also coming to meet with President Trump tomorrow in Washington, D.C.
Can you talk about as you peruse the media from the Arabic language media, Hebrew language media, U.S. media, what people get most wrong about what's happening in the West Bank right now?
And talk about how it compares to Gaza.
I think what is happening right now in the West Bank cannot be divorced to what is happening in Gaza, as well as places like Jerusalem.
Now, what we are seeing is another form of genocide and ethnic cleansing.
In Gaza, it is the complete obliteration of cities and towns and annihilation of families
off the registry.
And in the West Bank, it is taking different methods and forms, and that is through the
use of the Israeli settler military and judicial system.
Now, together, what they serve is – what Israel wants to do is the Greater Israel Project.
Now, it brings us back to the fact that this is a –
a colonial regime that is engaging in crimes against humanity.
How those crimes look may differ, but in the end, they serve the same purpose.
And that is ethnically cleansing Palestinians in order to build this greater Israel in the region.
In your address to the UN Security Council, Mariam Barguti, you talked about the dangers
journalists like yourself face.
If you can talk about the attacks on media workers, of course we know that over two,
250 journalists, media workers have been killed by Israel in the last years since October
2023 in Gaza.
And you also spoke about the targeted attacks on military personnel.
We'll end with this question.
Yes.
So the Israeli regime is targeting journalists, killing them in Gaza on the one end, likewise in Lebanon.
And in the West Bank, what we're seeing is targeting them through mass detention as well as
terrorizing campaigns that is targeting their family members, invading their homes, violating
their sources, as well as gathering information that should not be accessible to them.
So they are targeting not just the personnel, but they are targeting the information.
And this is one of the most dangerous aspects, because if we are unable to document,
then the entire issue of testimony falls into debate.
And this is where we are today, where someone welcomed to the union.
that was presented for the crimes that were instigated by him and the entirety of the Israeli
regime.
On Saturday, a group of Israel NGOs, including Betzelem and breaking the silence issue
to joint statements saying we call on the international community to act now, immediate
pressure on Israel's required to stop further attacks, prevent pogroms and further killings
and ensure the protection of Palestinians in accordance with Israel's obligations under international
law. We have 20 seconds, Mariam, if you can elaborate on this. I think this time is not just for
action, but to ensure genuine obstruction of Israeli capacity to continue in its crimes. It is not
normal nor okay that a country that is treated as a normal state. It is not normal to continue
sustaining it with military aid. At a bare minimum, just obstruct its capacity.
to target human lives.
Marim Barguti, want to thank you for being with us,
Palestinian writer and journalist based in the West Bank,
speaking to us from Amman Jordan.
She recently addressed the UN Security Council
on the crisis in the West Bank.
That does it for our show.
Happy birthday to Sarah Nasser.
I'll be in Martha's Vineyard Friday night, July 31st,
to speak after a screening of,
steal this story, please, in Vineyard Haven.
Then on to Madison, Wisconsin, and Chicago.
and to my hometown of Bayshore on September 17th.
I'm Amy Goodman.
