DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou: “Did Hitler Have a Micro Weenie?”

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

Battles over academic freedom and executive power today’s episode of “DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou.” Texas A&M bans advocacy of “race or gender ideology,” an Indiana professor is suspended after a Trump-allied senator intervenes over a graphic labeling “Make America Great Again” as covert white supremacy, Senator John Fetterman is hospitalized again, a secret 40-page DOJ memo with odd reasoning justifies Trump’s lethal boat strikes, and new DNA analysis of Hitler blood reveals a rare genetic marker linked to delayed puberty, undescended testicles, and possible Kallmann syndrome.Texas A&M Censors Professors: Texas A&M System regents unanimously vote to prohibit courses from advocating “race or gender ideology” without presidential pre-approval and ban teaching anything inconsistent with the approved syllabus. This follows months of GOP accusations of liberal indoctrination and comes after a lecturer was fired in September for recognizing more than two genders. Faculty call it a direct assault on academic freedom; administrators insist it merely “clarifies” existing policy.Indiana University Censors Professors: Indiana University suspends social-work lecturer Jessica Adams from teaching after U.S. Senator Jim Banks (R-IN) complains about a pyramid graphic labeling “MAGA” as covert white supremacy. The complaint invokes Indiana’s new “intellectual diversity” law, prompting the dean to file the formal grievance against Adams. Adams says the 20-year-old graphic is standard in social-work education and warns of growing censorship driven by Trump-aligned politicians.Time To Resign?: Senator John Fetterman (D-PA) is hospitalized after falling during a morning walk, triggering a ventricular fibrillation flare-up that temporarily stops his heart from pumping correctly. Doctors keep him for observation and medication adjustments; the 56-year-old jokes about his bruised face. This marks another serious health episode following his 2022 stroke and 2023 light-headedness hospitalization. He’s already dodging constituents and behaving erratically. Is it time for Pennsylvania to get new representation?Secret DOJ Memo Uses Pretzel Logic to Justify Trump Boat Strikes: Echoing the Bush Adminstration’s “torture memo” by John Yoo, a classified 40-page Justice Department memo justifies Trump’s lethal naval strikes that have killed 80 suspected drug smugglers (and fishermen) by declaring the U.S. in armed conflict with “narco-terrorist” cartels—relying almost entirely on unverified White House claims. The memo treats drug boats as lawful military targets and provides immunity defenses against future murder charges. Critics call it legal cover for extrajudicial killings with no congressional authorization.Hitler DNA Reveals Rare Gene: New genetic analysis of verified Hitler blood from his 1945 bunker couch reveals a rare PROK2 mutation linked to Kallmann syndrome, delayed puberty, and possible undescended testicles/micropenis. The study definitively debunks Jewish ancestry rumors and finds extraordinarily high polygenic risk scores for schizophrenia, autism, and ADHD. Researchers stress the findings explain nothing about the Holocaust and warn against stigmatizing these conditions.

14th, 2025. You're watching D-Program with Ted Roll and John Kirooku. Good morning, John. How are you? Good. Morning, Ted. Do all the things. How are you? Good, good. For everybody who's wondering about today's topic, I promise you, it is a little silly, the thumbnail, but it is based on actual science. They tracked Hitler's DNA, and they found out stuff about his genetic coding, and he really had an interesting mutation we'll talk about. A little bit of business to take care of. First of all, this is the last official day of Robbielessness. Our producer Robbie West, thanks to you guys.

We'll be back here on the show. He'll be joining us in a little bit, and he'll be here starting at the, as of the very beginning of the show, starting on Monday. This is like the transitional day. But thanks to you guys, please like, follow, and share the show. So please watch us on Rumble. Robbie will come on and explain why next week again for people who are just joining us.

We'll have to talk about today. We've got censorship scandals at two major universities, Texas A&M and Indiana University, where basically quote unquote woke professors are being cracked down upon by a university administration. John Federman took a fall. his health is not good. We'll talk about that. And John, I know you're going to have thoughts about this DOJ memo that is being used by the White House in order to justify the attacks against alleged narco-terrorists in the Southern Caribbean and the Eastern Atlantic Ocean. And of course, there's little Adolf and his possible micropinus. There, I said it. What do you want to talk about first?

Oh, before we do that, there's a question in the Rumble Feed that I really wanted to, it went on literally just how, just went on right a second before. And the question is from Tariq. Is the 2000 election the most consequential in recent history? The butterfly effect from the hanging Chad's is crazy. John? Wow. Yeah, good question.

I would say, yeah. I would say 2000 was far more consequential than we realized it. was. And as we lauded Al Gore for just, you know, looking his wounds and walking away, maybe he should have fought harder. Of course, what are you going to do once the Supreme Court makes a decision? But yeah, that's a good observation. I also wanted to say something, too. Yesterday on the show, Ted, we talked about visas, immigrant visas now being denied for fat people. And a State Department consular officer reached out to me. last night and sent me the following, which is important enough for me to read in its

entirety. So, hi, John. I'm a consular officer and a regular deep program listener. So thank you for that. Thanks for covering the new visa restrictions. One point that's being overlooked, the recent immigrant visa change isn't really about denying obese applicants. That's media simplification. It's fundamentally about excluding poorer applicants under expanded, quote, public charge considerations. We're now required to assess whether an applicant is likely at any point in their life to rely on government cash assistance or long-term publicly funded care. This pushes us to deny types of immigrant visas that historically have been approved at roughly 90%. The administration's goal of the new policy is to get us to say no, more,

without changing the underlying law. That's important. Under the new guidance, for example, a rich, obese, Saudi applicant can readily show that they won't become a public charge. A Ghanaian math teacher with high blood pressure who wins the diversity visa lottery may no longer meet the threshold,

even if otherwise eligible. Keep up the good work. Loyal listener. So thank you very much for clarifying that. It's very important. And he or she is correct that the media are simplifying, over simplifying this issue. So I appreciate being set straight. Never see that before.

No, I mean, that's really a good explanation here. Yeah, I mean, we've literally, John, thank you for that. We just reported a little bit of news here. And, you know, I mean, obviously all countries are concerned about your ability to support yourself when you apply to, not necessarily be a tourist, but when you come to work or whatever, especially if you're planning to stay for a long time, they always want to know. I mean, if you, I know people who've moved to Canada, and they had to prove that they had financial assets and also, this does seem to be like, you know, a roundabout way, no pun intended, of that. John, what do you want to talk

about first? What do I want to talk about? I'd like to talk about. I'd like to talk about the The absolutely awful John Fetterman. Let's do it. So he made a joke. John Fetterman was walking down the street yesterday in Braddock, Pennsylvania, where he used to be the mayor. He's from Braddock. It's a dead steel town outside of Pittsburgh. He's going for a walk.

He experienced atrial fibrillation, which he has had in the past. He has a pacemaker. And he momentarily blacked out. When he blacked out, he fell down, he landed on his face. And he said on Twitter, you thought my face was ugly before. You should see it now. Or someone said on Twitter for under his name, maybe more accurately. Yeah, probably.

That's probably the likelihood. And so Ted's question at the beginning of this segment was not rhetorical. Is Federman going to resign? he's clearly not fit to be a senator and i don't mean just physically i mean temperamentally the man's not fit to do the job uh there's no indication he's going to he's going to resign his his term takes him to twenty twenty eight but uh he's currently hospitalized in pennsylvania and uh claims to be fine we'll see um yeah no i mentally I have broke and heart attack and atrial fibrillation and, yeah, this guy doesn't belong in this.

He belongs in a nursing home. Everything that you're saying is 100% true. And it's hard for me, I'm actually pretty good at teasing out usually my antipathy for someone's politics from just the human connection here. But I think even if we set aside, even if we didn't know anything about his health, right, if we are his employers and we are his employers, you know, this is a guy who doesn't really show up to work very often. He misses a lot of votes. He is, he doesn't meet, he doesn't ever meet with constituents, according to the reporting in the New York Times.

He can't keep staff. His marriage appears to have blown up because of his change in temperament. His, whatever's going on with him meant, you know, in terms of his physiology, appears to be affecting even his political stances, like he suddenly pivoted to becoming a rabid, you know, sort of anti-Palestinian pro-Zionist. And it appears to have some kind of link, according to his wife, to what's going on with his, you know, mental health. I mean, so, I mean, if I were, I mean, I would say give, put him on, you know, full pay and, but let him stay home. And I mean, the people of Pennsylvania need a full-time center. Senator. There's no political reason not to do it because the governor is, isn't the governor

a Democrat of Pennsylvania? Yeah, it's Shapiro, Josh Shapiro. Yeah, Josh Shapiro can appoint, will appoint, would appoint his replacement. So there's no change in the balance of power politically. And so I don't know. I mean, it just seems like, I mean, I can have, I can hate his John Federer's politics. And I think he seems like a really unpleasant person. And at the same time, really have compassion for what he's going through. It can't really be good for his efforts to recover to be, to have this job or be trying to do this job. I mean, you know, maybe, I don't know, is there any ability to sort of have a temporary senator step in, you know, sort of how a person take a leave of absence and then say, hey,

let's check back in in three or six months. And then if, and we'll, and we'll, and if things are good, you can come back. No, there's no provision for that. You're either in or you're out. Maybe there ought to be. Yeah, maybe there ought to be. I mean, you know, because I mean, I can imagine all sorts of scenarios. I mean, there kind of is for the president, right?

I mean, there's the vice president. Let's say, you know, let's say you have a car accident and you need three months to recover. But you're fine after, well, I mean, Reagan was shot. Okay, there you go. And, you know, I mean, he stayed, that was in his first year in office. And he remained president and finished out his term. And obviously, we won't talk about his mental state the last year or two. But certainly he was able to do the job after that.

I mean, U.S. Senator, and for that matter, I would say a member of the House of Representatives should also have a, there should be some kind of provision for that. There should. There should. And there isn't. Now, what happens more often than not when a senator resigns, a more or less temporary senator is named in his or her place and a special election is called the special election is usually the next national election so if fetterman let's say fetterman were to resign today

a senator would be appointed by the governor in his place the special election would be held in november of 26 to fill the term until november of 28 and then there'd be an election for a full term. There was when Robert Byrd died, the West Virginia senator, the Democrat who used to be the majority leader, when he died, a senator was named to replace him, but was only senator for a month. Oh, wow. And then there was an election. Yeah.

Yeah. When Hubert Humphrey died when he was a senator from Minnesota, didn't his widow get appointed to the job? Muriel Humphrey, she became a senator. And then so Mania the cat is a follow up about the 2000 election. And I, this is a question that I have seriously wrestled with for years. Why didn't Al Gore fight harder? It's weird for ambitious politicians to just like go like that.

And, you know, I think I have an answer to that. So Donna Brazil, I signed her for syndication when I was at United Media. And she came in and we talked about this. And she was Gore's campaign manager. She was in the room at 9 o'clock at night on election night, November 7, 2000. And they're all watching TV and watching the returns. And she sees the vice president pick up the phone. She asks someone, who's he calling?

And she was told, oh, he's calling Bush to concede. And she said, what? And she walked over and, you know, with the old-fashioned landline phone, she hung up on Governor Bush. She just, like, clicked the receiver and screamed at Gore, what the fuck is wrong with you? What the fuck are you doing? You know, this isn't over. It's like, it's the polls just closed in California.

And obviously, it wasn't over for the better part of 40 days until December 20th, when the Supreme Court finally ruled on Bush v. Gore. But she told me, Gore didn't have the fire in his belly. He didn't really want it. He didn't, you know, sure, if it was offered, if it was proffered to him and he could just walk in and get it, sure, he's willing to work for it. But he didn't have that, like, I'm going to get this fucking thing no matter what thing. We should have known that the moment he chose Joe Lieberman, his vice president. That's true. Yeah, yeah.

And also, you know, and even, like, you know, refusing to distancing himself from Bill Clinton after two years after Monument. and things had clearly his poll numbers were back up and Clinton would have been an asset to the campaign. It was a, you know, a shit show. I mean, and you just think, John, of all the things, the way that our lives, talk about the butterfly effect, you probably never would have gone to jail. You know, like, I probably would have never been fired from the LA Times. I mean, all sorts of things are different. Today we're going to be talking about this DOJ memo. These Venezuelans wouldn't be being blown up because of this. this memo that echoes the torture memo authored by John U under George W. Bush, who wouldn't

have been president if Al Gore had fought. I mean, I think Al Gore could have rallied the troops. You know, he could have rallied the American people and said, I've won this campaign. I won the state of Florida. And that's what the Bushies did. They fought hard in the court of public opinion. And I think that's part of the reason. I mean, I know Sandra Day O'Connor, as the deciding vote, wanted to retire under a Republican

president and be replaced by a Republican. president. So there's a lot of things going on. But he didn't fight. Let me think about it. We have more SUVs on the roads than ever before. Would President Al Gore have allowed that to happen? A guy who cared more about the environment than anything else? No. I mean, the world is in a much work. We're not at the cop conference right now. That wouldn't be true if Al Gore had been president. There's a million things that would have that would have been very, we would never have invaded Iraq. maybe we might have bombed Afghanistan but we never would have invaded Iraq yeah I agree with all

that yeah it's the whole world is different because of it yeah I mean he and I mean I I kind of am really pissed at Al Gore for that it's like dude you had a responsibility to the democratic party and to the American people to fight for this and then of course I've got to do this rant I'm sorry I've got to do this it really always bugged me that The people around him were so stupid. You know, when he filed Bush v. Gore, he asked for a recount only in the Democratic counties in Florida. Okay, idiot, if there's an undercount of Democratic votes, it's going to be in Republican counties in Florida because they're dominated by a Republican vote counting apparatus, and they're going to undercount Democrat.

You should have just asked for, and that gave the Supreme Court their way to rule against him under the Equal Protection Clause, they should have said, you know, count the whole state. You know, obviously, it's the state of Florida, recount the whole state. It's like, God. That's right. The whole state. Duh. And now we know that, you know, Al Gore probably would have won by 15 to 20,000 votes in the state of Florida.

There's no, there's no Ralph Nader issue. That's bullshit. Ralph Nader did not make the difference. It's been completely debunked. Totally agree. Totally agree. Hey, want to thank Scott A. Britain for the very generous $50. Wow.

He says, thanks for a great show. Thank you, Scott. Thank you for that. Yeah, seriously. Thank you. Thank you very, very much. Let's see. Oh, if you so, who will replace Federman?

Well, I mean, I agree with John. He's not going anywhere unless he dies. I don't think he's going to him. No. No. Here's a good question from U.S.C. XXX, A-Rod, 21. To be fair, would we still say that Federman was unfit if he fell in line and voted along party lines? I think if he didn't go against the grain with the Democratic Party, this story gets no play.

There might be something to that. I think at the end of the day, it would be the Republicans complaining that he's unfit. And now, you know, it's funny, too, so many of my Republican friends, when, when, Fetterman was first elected to the Senate, and he had his mental crisis and was hospitalized. The memes were absolutely vicious. And then he started voting down the line, pro-Israel, supporting, you know, the Republican position on so many of these international issues and international economic issues. And the Republicans went silent. And then it was the Democrats who started criticizing him.

I think that he's going to be criticized either way, one way or the other, whether it's from the right or from the left. I've been grossly disappointed in the guys, the guys voting habits. Oh, I mean, and this is not why he was, I'm sorry, I don't think the people, look, you're Pennsylvanian. I don't think the people who voted for him voted for this. Yeah, I agree. I mean, Dr. Oz has to be throwing shit at the TV every morning. yeah yeah that's right like that like that fuckers in my has my job yeah and you know what i'm surprised in how much it has bothered me ted but i'm really

greatly bothered by the fact that the guy dresses like a slob i hate that tries to go onto the floor of the u.s senate it's disgusting it's classless yeah and it's like a fucking I would feel. I would feel different. Agreed. I mean, look, if he, last time I saw someone who dressed like that regularly, it was a dude who had a colostomy bag after being hit by a car. Okay. But even so, even, and he doesn't have a colostomy bag. And if he did have a colostomy bag, you could just wear loose fitting clothes, right? I mean, if he had open collar shirt, okay, I could live with that. No tie. Although I'm partial to ties. I have a great collection of beautiful vintage ties. But it's like he, you're right. It's disrespectful. To me, it's like when Zelensky showed up in his, you know, track suit. You know, it's just wrong. Yeah, it's wrong.

I agree. I agree. Yeah. I know it's surprising, right? We're small C conservative that way. But yeah. Yep. John is from Pennsylvania, Western Pennsylvania.

That is correct answering James Turner's question. Let's see. I would have preferred Dr. Oz. He has all the, yeah, I think, I think, I mean, look, I would, Dr. Oz was running as a conservative. It turns out there were two conservatives running for that office. Yeah, there were. And, you know, Tarek asks a good question here too, Ted. Is there no dress code for Capitol Hill, the second most consequential building in the world?

There actually is quite a clear dress code. Yeah. In the house, men have to wear a jacket and a tie. Women have to wear a dress. in the senate they had the same rules and they changed them schumer changed them just for fetterman it's ridiculous and that's and why i mean he doesn't there's no health reason for it right it's just like no i'm a big lumbering oaf and this is how i like to dress yeah even when biden was campaigning in pennsylvania um

There's, there's Biden at the podium. There's Josh Appiro with a suit and tie behind him and Federman behind him on the other, over the other shoulder, and he's wearing a frigging hoodie and shorts, Jim shorts. It's just awesome. And the thing is he, and I mean, you know, I really have to put this on, to put this in its proper cartoonist perspective, because that's my job. He doesn't, he doesn't even wear like a good track suit. He doesn't look like Al Sharpe in the 80s or like run DMC.

I mean, this is like literally That was a That was a uniform for him Sorry, go ahead Yeah, it was like You know, it's like exactly This is like this is literally The lowest level clothes you can wear

And still be technically considered to be not naked Right Right You like you can dress that way and not be arrested outdoors that's right morrow m thank you for the ten dollars says uh john saw your latest interview on the whistleblowers on big food and big pharma if you ever wanted to dig deeper you should talk to brigham bueller from ways to well about the medical devices scam in oars we reached out to brigham bueller actually and uh and are trying to get him scheduled so thanks for that morrow

that's it that's a great idea that would be a good a good uh interview yeah thank you All right. What should we move on? Lots to talk about. Yeah, I'm just not yet. I'm just waiting to see in Pennsylvania who steps up to run against him. A friend of mine says that he believes Fetterman's going to have some Democratic primary opposition, and it might be somebody strong. Let's hope so. I don't know who that could be. I mean, Pennsylvania has a deep bench, so.

State auditor. A lot of people we may not have heard of. here nationally but certainly yeah um yeah talk about this DOJ memo i'm kind of dying to um yeah this is bad news very bad news so for people who are who missed this this yeah go ahead john go ahead no no no i'm there's a delay that's why it's yeah yeah that's why we're kind of stepping on each other here um so the department of justice um so basically when the president wants to kill people in a situation like this off the coast of Venezuela and Colombia, it needs to be justified by an internal Department of Justice memo.

The last time this happened was during the drone wars and John Yu, and during the global war on terror, John Yu, who was, was he an assistant attorney general or? No, he was director of the Office of Legal Counsel. Okay, so he's kind of the president's lawyer, but not his private lawyer. And he drafted that infamous torture memo, basically justifying all the stuff that you exposed, John. And that memo was, I mean, John Yu is, he's on Fox all the time. He's considered like an eminence gris of the legal profession. instead of sitting in a prison cell in the Hague where he belongs.

And so now this is the same sort of thing. There's this 40-page memo that basically accepts at face value, these very patently untrue arguments made by the administration that state that we are in a state of war effectively against these cartels and that these cartels need to be stopped by any means necessary. also, in addition, that the countries down there, like Colombia, have requests, you know, need our help to fight the cartels because, and so therefore, as, you know, we have an obligation to help our allies, and that effectively we're already engaged in combat, none of these things are true. The countries down there do not want us there. They've explicitly, in the case of Colombia, the president has called this murder of his nationals. And so anyway, it's, it's very disturbing that the memo went so far, you know, in terms of, it's such, I hate to say it, tortured logic. It is tortured logic.

And it's very dangerous because the premise on which the memo was drafted is false. the premise is that the president has irrefutable intelligence indicating that these are indeed drug transport boats and no such evidence exists there is no intelligence to indicate that they're that their drug traffic excuse me drug trafficking boats so somebody's dropped the ball and innocent people are being drone to death and and the thing is i guess it's one of we're finding out these days all the ways in which our constitutional system has shortcomings. And this is one of them. Right. I mean, you know, you can, if the president wants to do something, even though obviously it's illegal or unconstitutional or both, you, you know, you can just get some dumb

lawyer to write a memo for you to give you legal cover. And the purpose of this, right, it's this is for the underlings who ask you know who ask who are given an order to kill these people and they say hey hey hey i don't want to be prosecuted i don't want to you know after trump will be gone someday and then they'll come after me when then some fucking democrat is the president and i don't want i don't want to deal with that it's like don't worry you're covered you have this memo this memo is your get out of jail free card uh you know if the shit ever hits the fan that's really that's i I mean, that's what OLC does. And you can't do it.

And the thing is, there's no, there's no work around. There's like, there's no body to which say that the widow of a Venezuelan fisherman who gets blown up can go and say, hey, that's, that's wrong. And I need a higher ruling here. I need someone to say that memo is bullshit and no, there isn't cover. There's just no, there's just no way around it, right? I mean, that's just, that's it. Yeah, that's it.

that's why the you by the memo legalizing torture was so important because it indemnified every single one of the monsters involved in that program that's why none of them went to prison none of them and now we have the current problem with john breton i mean detail question so in the very shortly after he took the oath of office obama went to langley and sort of gave a speech where he effectively said don't worry bygones are bygones and even though my policies may be a little different in some respects, although they weren't really. We won't prosecute anyone for stuff that they did under Bush. Why did you do that? Why did he feel the need to do that if they had the U memo? John, you're a little frozen here. If you can hear me, John, you are frozenified. Well, this seems like a good moment to bring in Robbie

West, who's making his grand return. John, please refresh, and we will see you. Robbie West, thank you so much for... I'm back. He's back. Just in time. We're waiting for John to de-freeze. Welcome back. It's good to have you back.

It's good to be back. You're a liberated man from... I am. After having... So, in a way, you owe a favor to the person who docks you because now you're liberated. That's very true. And I just want to just give a true and heartfelt thank you to all the people who gave on give us and go to make this possible, truly.

I mean, and sincerely, I mean this, thank you very much for all of y'all support. Those of you who gave there, gave on Patreon, that type of thing. I mean, the easiest thing in the world, and I told this to John and Ted, both, the easiest thing in the world for them to have done to be the cut bait, let me just go they didn't and that's one part of it the other part of it though is because of y'all because without y'all I can't pay my bills and so uh truly thank y'all a lot of folks who gave and read y'all's comments a lot y'all said y'all agree with me on much you know what the same is true i don't agree with y'all much either but that's a that's a strange like echo there

yep that's called john's side okay yeah that was yeah john You're getting feedback, I think. Yeah, I know. I know. You're like, I know what feedback is. It's cool. It sounds like 1970s German experimental music. While you're troubleshooting that, John, I'm going to go ahead and hit an ad because we need to do that.

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let's see if we can get John back here. John. There we go. Second, third time's a charm. Okay. Okay. So do we have anything more to say about the torture memo and Robbie? I'm kicking you back out.

Okay. Bye, Robbie. Okay. The problem is with OLC, the Office of Legal Counsel. They can say anything they want, they can do anything they want, and they can decide that anything they want is legal, even when it's not, even when there's precedents to show that it's not legal. And, you know, we end up in these situations like we did with torture, and now we're doing

again with the bombing of these boats off the coast of Venezuela and Colombia. Now, another thing, as we were starting the show this morning, there was a breaking development on CNN, saying that the president was in a meeting with the National Security Council right then at 9 o'clock Eastern, talking about his military options. The purpose of the meeting was to brief him on his military options in Venezuela. So this is not good. And there's a big aircraft carrier off the coast of Venezuela, or at least about to be there. There's, I mean, we have to speculate.

It's Friday. these things that usually happen on a Friday or a Saturday. Yeah. Are we possibly going to see, you know, I would say not a ground assault, not a Bay of Pigs, but like are we going to see, you know, an aerial bombarding campaign kind of Kosovo style over the weekend? I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised to see that. I'll tell you what I think won't happen.

We will not send large numbers of ground troops. I could see us sending a small number of special forces. to take the presidential palace, to take the TV and radio stations, and the main military and national security base. And then you want to just kind of shut down the major streets, the major intersections. Maybe you allow Maduro to fly off to Havana or something. Maybe you don't. You try to capture him, la Manuel Moriiga.

But I wouldn't be surprised if this thing ends, you know, rather quickly. it's a little i mean it's a little uh little little depressing to be honest it is it's also i don't think has there ever will there ever have been a war with less you know there's no loob here before the president slips it in i mean it's literally there's been no effort at least to give dick cheney and donald rumsfeld credit for lying to the american people over and over to try to justify it yeah i mean trump doesn't even talk to the american people but i mean trump doesn't even talk to the American people about this at all. I mean, I guess it's a political exercise.

Can you effectively wage war without any popular consent, forget popular consent with popular knowledge? Yeah, that's right. I wouldn't do it. And, you know, his base does not want

a foreign entanglement. The base is clear. It's America first. Yeah, there's been some interesting, some interesting coverage lately about how the base is really restive, right? I'm always cynical about this. They're like, okay, so the base is pissed off about the aid to Argentina. They're pissed off about the president's obsession with foreign affairs. They're pissed off with the fact that prices have not come down, you know, and that doesn't seem to be focused on affordability.

But what are they going to do? They're not going to vote for, they're not going to vote for Gavin Newsom, right? I mean, it's not going to change anything in a two-party system. You know, the Republicans have the same calculus the Democrats have. You're stuck. You have to vote for us. Or not, they just won't vote at all. Yeah, I think that's right. That's what we're looking at.

That, yeah, apathy is when you're one of two parties is always your enemy here. So I like Godna brings up this point. This is going to be a green light for China to take Taiwan. Is it? I don't think the Chinese want to take Taiwan by four. I agree. I don't. I don't think they're interested. I think that they really believe that eventually Taiwan is going to join peaceably. I think they have every reason to believe that. Yeah. I really believe that's the case. They have a friendly government in in Taipei to deal with. They've had longstanding, I mean, they have a lot of economic and tourist

exchange between the two countries. Last time I went to China and I flew into Beijing Airport. There was a friend of mine who could read it. So there was a big banner when you arrived in arrivals that said, welcome to our Taiwanese brothers, to the People's Republic of China. You know, welcome home. So, you know, it's not an enemy. You know, it's not an enemy situation.

The Chinese just figure, you know, It's a cliche for a reason. They take the long view. They're like, we'll get it later. We'll get it, you know. Let's see, Mania the cat. Thank you, Robbie, for putting this up. Trump is probably going to get overconfident

thinking he can overthrow Venezuela in days and the U.S. gets stuck in yet another year's long conflict. This has happened over and over again. Yeah, I could easily see that happening. It's never, ever as easy as we think it's going to be, never, except maybe the Gulf War. Yeah, that was, yeah, although highway of death, not so easy on them. Well, no, not on them, but that's my point. Yeah.

Well, I mean, Powell was right, overwhelming force, flood the zone, planned for the aftermath, you break it, you own it, he was right. He was a weasel in many other respects. But yeah, shall we, before we get to the controversies in academia, which I think, you know, are worth teasing out. And plus, if you're just joining us, thanks for joining us. Please like, follow and share the show. And Robbie's back and Robbie's funded for the month of November, thanks to you guys. But we are fully funded back on YouTube, and we are doing well on Rumble. And John, you just went faded to black.

so if you hear me Robbie, no I hear Robbie sent me a message but while I'm on the phone to read a message you have to go to black oh okay all right

interesting bummer let's see question for you John from Enzo don't mean to derail the conversation but I'm waiting with bated breath

to hear your thoughts on Giuliani receiving his pardon and what his $2 million payment equivalent might be to Donald Trump oh boy oh boy can you

do you want to punt on this one yeah and I'll explain why you know I've applied for a presidential pardon I have spoken to literally everybody in the president's orbit and I'm close man I'm that close to the point where I'm going to actually meet

with two of them next week wow And so I think I probably should punt that one. All right. Well, let's just let's just punt that. I want to elucidate one thing. It's just to clarify, I don't think that, I think the pardon for Giuliani is largely, isn't it basically more symbolic and ceremonial than anything else? Because he facing state charges.

Right. So the pardon's not really going to do him lots of good, except his lawyer can go to the state court and go to the judge and say, listen, he's been pardoned for this federal. you know, please take that into consideration. And apparently sometimes they do. Yeah. It's not a get-out-get-out-of-jail-free card by any means. And if the judge has any animus for Giuliani, then that'll be that. Yeah, let's move on.

Let's talk about Hitler, and then we'll get to the academia stuff. Because the Hitler thing is super interesting. So this researcher basically bought at this, well, here's the chain of evidence. So Hitler blew his brains out while sitting on a sofa in a bunker under Berlin, under what is currently a parking lot. I don't know what it is with all these dead despots found under parking lots. But he killed himself under, he killed himself in the bunker in 1945, April 30th. And obviously when you do that, it makes one hell of a mess. And so the sofa was soaked with his blood and a lot of allied troops traips in and out of there.

one of them, I believe a staff sergeant, cut out, carefully removed a cut a piece of cloth and it stayed in from the, with Hitler's blood on it. And it stayed in his family for many years until about 15 years ago, it was sold at auction. And it came into the possession of this genetic researcher who decided it'd be interesting to, you know, to test Hitler's DNA to see, you know, if there's anything interesting in his genome. To verify that this is, in fact, his DNA, because it could have been someone else's, they compared it to one of Hitler's living relatives. And, you know, he doesn't have any direct errors as far as we know, but he, you know, obviously he had cousins and so on. So he, it turns out that he, this is, by the way, not been, I'll caution this hasn't been peer reviewed. But it seems pretty likely this is true that he has this mutation called Prock 2, which is linked to something called Kalman Syndrome, which is delayed puberty. I'm not really clear on how delayed you're talking about.

I had late puberty. I didn't really, nothing much happened until I was 16. And possibly undescended testicles and micropenus. So we do know, there's always been rumors that he was a self-hating. partial Jew. That's definitively ruled out. He has no Jewish ancestry, no Ashkenazi, or otherwise. But anyway, and so also, you know, you have the genetic marker for Coleman syndrome. Doesn't mean you have Coleman syndrome. But there had always been this, you know, sort of rumor that the allies spread, that he had one testicle. But there was never, that's just

something that they made up for wartime propaganda. You know, we do know his, his, his valet, who changed his sheets, wrote a book that my mom sent me like 20 years ago, because she and I were both, you know, avid his students of history. And he, in the book, Hitler's valet, who said, you know, I changed his sheet, said that Eva Braun and him had a normal quote-unquote sex life. Okay. So, of course, people with a micropenus can have a normal sex life. But it's interesting as hell it also apparently there's much higher chances like in other words 99% in the top one percentile if you have this genetic marker for your chances of having schizophrenia i don't think there's any from what i've read i mean i have a shelf groaning with books

about hitler i don't think there's any evidence that he was schizophrenic um autism i doubt it ADHD i could see those are all things that he that that that are associated with Kalman syndrome. And so, you know, obviously the world is always trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong with Adolf Hitler. And why was he the way he was? And I've always said the real terror of Adolf Hitler is that there was nothing wrong with Adolf Hitler. Yeah. He was just a politician.

Right. But what do you think, John, of all this? What do you make of it? Well, let's talk about this. This is a two-part, it comes from a two-part documentary. that is running on a network in the U.K., the Guardian has been reporting on it. I find it to be absolutely fascinating.

One of the things that I find fascinating is there's always been this general belief that Hitler was partly Jewish through his father's side. What this investigation found that his father was actually the illegitimate child of Hitler's grandfather, or I should say a grandmother.

And so Hitler's paternal grandfather was not the man that we've always We don't have any idea whoever he says he wasn't Jewish. I find that to be fascinating. Now, we know that,

but Hitler didn't know that. Hitler thought he was part Jewish. Right. That's true. It may have been, in part, you know, self-hatred. This gene is called Proct II. It's responsible for what they call a well-known but rare genetic disorder called the Kalman syndrome, which delays puberty. Look, we don't know. We don't know if he had a micropenus or a giant penis or undescended

testicles or descended testicles or one testicles. testicle or whatever it was. But I find it fascinating that we're still talking about this, you know, 80 years after the fact. I find it fascinating. It's totally fascinating. And, you know, this is also the first time that anybody has actually confirmed that they have possession of Hitler's DNA.

There was a, there's a Holocaust denier in the UK Irving something. His name escapes me now. And, um, and, um, and, um, um, and, um, um, um, and, um, um, um, um, and, um, um, um, and, um, um, um, um, um, um, David Irving, I think, is his name. David Irving, David Irving. He had what he called a lock of Hitler's hair that he sold at auction 10 or 20 years ago. And it turned out just to be hair from some random guy. It wasn't Hitler's hair.

And so the whole DNA thing was a bust. This is Hitler's DNA. They are 100% sure. And the way they are 100% sure is Hitler still has a couple of cousins on Long Island, And a couple more cousins and arms, and they all provided, even if reluctantly, they all provided DNA to cross-match it. So this is Hitler's DNA. Russia might also have his DNA, right? Because Russia 100% has his DNA.

His body was burned on the, you know, on the ground level above after he committed suicide. But the Russians took the skull and what was left. They got, they grabbed everything. They could, the Russians denied it for years. Years. And then they, and then after the fall of the Soviet Union, they confirmed that it was in the archives the whole time. Yeah.

There's that great punk song. They saved Hitler's brain. You know, I talked to, I talked to a very high ranking, well, the highest ranking KGB defector ever in history, Oleg Kulugin. He lives not far from me. I wanted to have him on my podcast, but he's 86 years old now.

Anyway, we somehow got on to the topic of Hitler's skull, and he said that Hitler's skull sat on the desk of the head of the KGB at least until 1979. He was in that office in 1979, and he saw Hitler's skull on the desk, and he said, that's not Hitler's skull. And the head of the KGB said, oh, it's Hitler's skull. that that make yeah i had heard something similar about that so i don't know where but in some kind of i mean i guess lots of people sort have been in and out of that guy's office so over the years um so i mean you could imagine it's a trophy right like doesn't like didn't george w bush

gets saddam's uh pistol as a trophy also yeah the gold plate of pistol everybody took trophies I have Osama bin Laden's paperweight from his desk. What is it? What is it made of? It's a big honking chunk of lapis lazuli. Ooh, that's it. So it's not just a paper, not just, not just, not just UBL, but it's also his, it's also a nice piece of. It's absolutely stunning.

It is so bright blue, it'll take your breath away, and it's flecked with gold. It's filled with pyrite. So it's, it's like shiny gold. sheen to it it's that's mine in Afghanistan yeah mine in Afghanistan I took it right off his desk I'm really my you know my every now and then I find I discover stuff that my ex-wife took in the divorce oh my god she took my she took my giant chunk of lapis it doesn't have the same cool provenance as yours lapis is expensive and it's hard to get yeah yeah yeah it's I just discovered like a few

days ago that she took one of my favorite watches. I collect watches. And I was like, oh, what a bummer. But it's like, you took the Windsor? Really? You took that? I hate you. Anyway. Real quickly, real quickly. Adam Tube, too. Send me a message right here

through the show, and Robbie will forward it to me. Sir Bikes a lot says, look up Peter LeVenda's book, Ratline. He says that Hitler died in Indonesia. makes a good case for it. Justice Thomas, Nazi lover friend and him

were in Indonesia for a time. I call bullshit on that. Yeah, yeah, I don't believe that. You know, it's like the hunt for Martin Borman. For so many years, it's like Martin Borman was seen hiking in Bolivia. Martin Borman was seen in a restaurant in Brazil. Actually, now we know Martin Borman was living in Cairo.

He was an advisor to Gamal Abdanassar. He was driving. Right, right. And, well, Dr. Mangley, right? He was the one, I mean, the boys from Brazil is based on him. You know, Gregory Peck plays him in an amazing performance, just fucking astonishing. The boys from Brazil. Great movie, even better book, Ira Levin.

God, what a great author. I mean, the Steppford Wives. Yeah. Like, it's just so great. A Rosemary's baby. Oh, classic. He knew how to crank him out. Yeah.

Roman Polanski, so good. Filmed entirely in the Dakota. Yeah, so cool, so cool. Yeah, it is a, it is a sinister. It is funny because I've been in the Dakota, and it's not sinister at all when you're there, but the, you know, in the popular mindset. So, I mean, I guess the thing is, do we, what,

do we want to, I mean, there is a risk that if it turns out that, like, we were able to prove that Hitler, let's say, had ADHD. that then people might start to say, look, you have the same thing Hitler did and whatever. I mean, Hitler did have some of the traits, though, that I associate with my friends who have ADHD. Like, he liked to sleep late and stay up late. He kind of had this, like, always had this, like, bohemian lifestyle. He loved to just pratter on and talk.

And here is, he loved the sound of his own voice, like in private. and just to the point where his secretaries would be bored to death. Like, Greta, oh, no, this is so, like, it is terrible. He goes, he does not stop. Oh, my God. Yeah, well, you know what, Ted, let's talk about this just for a second. The bigger picture here. So we find out that he had ADHD.

We find out that he had this. Prammer's syndrome, Cammer's syndrome, whatever it's called. Or we find out he had, you know, a micropenus. So what? Who cares? Who cares? I mean, as far as we know, Adolf Hitler never killed anyone. Maybe his cousin, right, who he was supposedly interested in sexually. Yes. Maybe. Probably not, right? So the thing is, yeah, I mean, Adolf Hitler, what's interesting about Hitler is what he, got other people to do and, you know, and how he convinced them and how he propagandized them and spread his message. It's not about like, I mean, I think the danger is when we view someone

like that as a monster. And then it's like it exonerates the people of Germany or the human race in general who doesn't deserve to be exonerated. Right. Yeah, agreed. A couple of comments that we should get to the academic thing. Love you guys. Thanks, Nagla. Any thoughts on Egypt and the current regime. Good question. That's a good question. I was talking to a prominent Egyptian day before yesterday. I want to protect his identity.

Anyway, he operates in the highest circles in the Egyptian government. And he was telling me that corruption remains a great country just like it always has. But compared to Egypt at the start of the Gulf. for when there were 55 million people, there are now 120 million people in Egypt and they just can't accommodate them. There's not enough housing. There's not enough food. So they're definitely not taking the Gazans. No. And they are not. Well, that was the whole purpose of our conversations to talk about Gaza. They're not taking one single Gazans, not one. And he said, So why is the population so, so why is it exploding so dramatically?

Is that a sign of optimism on the part of the Egyptian people about the economy? Or is it just that they, they just like to fuck and they don't need broke control? Yeah, men can't keep their hands off their, off their wives. I saw a, I saw a meme the other day on Facebook. This woman was pregnant and another woman says to her, oh my gosh, you're pregnant again? And the pregnant woman says, yeah, it's my fifth one. There must be something in the air.

and the first woman says, yeah, it appears that it's your legs. Or two of them. That's awesome. Real, real. Thanks for the two bucks. Iran seized an oil tanker heading from the UAE to Singapore last night. How do they benefit from this seizure? Well, they get attention.

Yeah. They don't really benefit. And what happens? This happens every few months. the company that flags the vessel will eventually pay a fine, and then the Iranians will just let it go. Sometimes they steal the cargo, sometimes they don't. So it's just a shakedown? Yeah.

Let's talk about these two cases, and I think it's worth talking about, even if just for a few minutes that remain. So Texas A&M and Indiana University are both cracking down in sort of different ways on liberal professors. Texas A&M votes is prohibiting. This one's the more worrisome one to me. They have a policy against advocating race or gender ideology without the specific approval of the president of the university. The problem there is I don't like rules that are hard to follow or understand. And if you're a professor, it's hard to say, you know,

what exactly is race or gender ideology, even what it means, much less how what advocating it, would mean. That's a problem. I mean, that seems really a little bit Stalin-like, right? Like, you know, you should just know what Comrade Stalin would want you to do or not do or say or not say. It seems like it would be hard to function in that academic environment. Yeah. Yeah, I have to agree. You know, there is, yes, there's no, there's no agreed upon definition, but any definition, I think, is dangerous. I really do. Same thing with Indiana. Indiana has this like new, they basically, this professor, Jessica Adams, she's been suspended. She'll probably be fired because one of her students contacted a senator from Indiana, Jim Banks, to complain. One student who was made uncomfortable. So this is like basically right wing snowflake by a, you know, a, she showed a graphic.

that showed MAGA as one of several forms of covert white supremacy ideologies. Even if we just stipulate that that's wrong and that that's, you know, she shouldn't have done that. I mean, academic freedom has to allow you do things that are, do and say things that are wrong and that you shouldn't do, right? That's right. You know, and without that academic freedom, we're not going to have people like Noam Chomsky or Cornell West or, you know, whoever the comparable right-wing professors are, universities should be places where we have what is truly the free exchange of ideas,

whether it's from the left, from the right, from the center, you know, it makes no difference to me. I had professors from all over the ideological spectrum, and they didn't, they didn't teach me to believe what they believe. They taught me how to think critically on my own. And that's really what going to college is all about. That's beautiful. That's exactly the way I see it too. John, I mean, honestly, I don't know about you, but if I were approached to teach at a college or university, unless I were granted tenure right out the gate, I don't think I could really do it because of both the left and the right censoring you. You just, I mean, it's happened to a friend of mine at University of Michigan at Ann Arbor. who was a you know and she was she went through hell over some woke bullshit as a professor

and she's a big liberal but um yeah it's it's a toxic environment on America's colleges and universities yeah that's right that's right I teach at two universities right now I teach at one called Bay Path

which is based in Massachusetts I do an online class and on intelligence and at the University of Salamanca in Spain. I do two classes, one on intelligence and one on the history of terrorism. And no one has ever, ever approached me to tell me that I can or can't say something.

And frankly, if I was told that I can't say something, you know what, it's not worth the three grand a semester. Nah, yeah. Yeah. Well, it's not worth $100,000 a year. It's like, fuck it. All right, guys. It's that time.

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