DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - EXTRA! U.S. & Israel At War with Iran | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou

Episode Date: February 28, 2026

The US and Israel launched strikes on Iran after what the Israeli military said was months of “close and joint planning.” Israel said its strikes targeted Iran’s supreme leader, president and head of the armed forces. The US is planning for several days of attacks. President Donald Trump described the US military campaign as “massive and ongoing,” warned American lives may be lost, and called on Iranians to “take over your government.” Iran launched an unprecedented wave of strikes toward Israel and US targets across the Middle East. Explosions were reported in the UAE, Bahrain and Qatar and in Dubai, where all flights to and from airports have been suspended. The attacks sparked global responses. The leaders of some US allies expressed concern, while some Arab nations condemned Iran’s retaliation.

Good morning. It's Saturday, February 28, 2026. I'm Ted Raul. That's John Kyriaku. You're watching a special extra unscheduled edition of D-programmed with Ted Raul and John Kyriaku. As you probably already know this morning, the United States and Israel have launched a war against Iran. The president is calling for the overthrow of the Iranian government. And the casualty figures are already quite high. Bomb blasts have been felt throughout Tehran. John, I'm sorry to see you on Saturday morning under such circumstances, but it's good to see you. Ted, my friend Jeannie just texted me from Florida to say that the DISH Network has blocked

Al Jazeera from broadcasting here in the United States. They don't want us to see what's happening in the Middle East. We know from CNN and from other sources, New York Times is reporting that that an Israeli missile hit a girls' school in southern Iran this morning, killing 57 children. So get used to that. That's going to be what this war looks like. The Israelis don't give a shit about human life, about civilians, and we're going to see a lot of civilian casualties. On the flip side, the Iranian said days ago, even as long as a week ago, that if there were going to be an attack, they would strike U.S. assets around.

the Persian Gulf, they have done exactly that. They have hit the U.S. military base in Kuwait. They've hit the center of Manama Bahrain, the capital of Bahrain. They've hit Abu Dhabi. There was a missile intercepted over Dubai. This is a real war. This isn't going to be just a back and forth tata-tete over the next 24 hours. This is a conflagration. Yeah, that's how I see it, too. I mean, I don't see it any other way, but the president is predicting or the administration, I should say is predicting just a few days of conflict. I don't see how that's possible. I mean, with the Iranians...

Peace in Ukraine by now, so it's 24 hours for that. Right. Well, the Iranians are engaged in an existential battle for their government and for their country and for... They don't want to go the way of Venezuela and become a vassal state. They're going to fight back hard with everything they've got, and that's inevitably going to cause the United States and Israel to play the victim, even though they started all this. And they're going to say, you know, well, you know, look at what

the dastardly Iranians did. We have to retaliate, even though, you know, they're the ones that should be retaliated against. You know, I'm seeing, I'm seeing from Joseph Roy 7021 that Comcast Xfinity is also blocking Al Jazeera. That's up in the Boston area. So that's, they don't do that just on a whim or by accident. They're doing it because the administration asked them to. And see, this is going to be an ongoing theme. We should probably talk about this for a minute. This is going to be a theme about about only allowing the American people to get the information that the government wants them to get. I watch Al Jazeera every day. Yeah. It's the only game in town when it comes to, you know, video from Gaza. There's no one else. That's it. That's it. That's it.

So, I mean, already Al Jazeera America was shut down by the Bush administration, effectively. You know, not officially, but they leaned on the cable company so that they couldn't effectively have an outlet. You know, we've seen that over and over here in the U.S. I mean, you know, we're the land of the free my ass. And, you know, if truth is the first casualty of war, the first thing you want to do is kill the truth or kill any other narrative. John, there's going to be so much to get into. And as usual, even though this is a special edition, please go ahead and post your questions

if you're watching live right now in the 9 o'clock hour on Saturday morning, into the live feed and into the Rumble Room. And we will get to all of those if we can, but we're going to try. Ted, I want to ask you a question. Donald Trump said last night that this was going to be a massive, his words,

a massive and ongoing military. campaign and he also called it major combat operations. Now those those words have very specific meanings in in war. That means troops on the ground. That is what it means. Do you mean that or is he just talking? I don't know. I don't know how much he's been briefed on, you know, what the appropriate vocabulary is here. You know, he's not a man of careful language and parsing language. So, you know, with him, you have to kind of read less into it than you would with a normal president, I think is fair to say, right? But it's hard to imagine U.S. troops on the ground in Iran. Like, how did, what does that look like?

I mean, you and I have talked about this many times, John, it is a massive country. It is massive. It's, you know, the Iranian people may or may not like their government. It's not the most popular government, but what's a lot like. less popular is the idea of a U.S. occupation or invasion. They don't want that for sure. No one wants that. And so I can't even imagine. I mean, and also, I got to say, this is the part that chilled me to the bones. It's the fact that Israel and the United States are now so intertwined in this massive endeavor, for lack of a better word. I mean, we're really joined at the hip now.

I mean, this is basically telling the entire Muslim world, we are one and the same. And what Israel does is what the U.S. does and vice versa. You know, Israel is wildly unpopular even here in the United States, but it's certainly around the world. You know, for the first time yesterday, there was a poll that said that most Americans sympathize with the Palestinian cause more than Israelis. That's right. First time since 1948. this is you know we just climbed into bed with you know with bibi net and yahoo who's a fucking monster and everybody thinks is a monster i don't even know where to begin i'm looking at reactions from around

the world right now and every one of our of our NATO allies has either expressed condemnation or regret uh the only countries that are condemning Iran's retaliation are the countries that are being hit by Iranian missiles. But Ted, looking at the map that you just put up, these attacks are literally all over Iran, at least all over the populated part of Iran. Right. This really is massive. This isn't just Tehran and maybe some military bases.

It is all over the country. Yeah, it is. And look, for people who haven't been to. Tehran, I have. It is a big country. It's bigger than New York. I mean, it's a big city. It's bigger than New York City. It has a population of 9.7 million people in the city proper, plus significant, you know, huge sprawling suburbs. It is, you know, this is a densely populated city. The all, all major Iranian cities are. They're very modern. You know, this is going to be a war against the civilian population as much as it is a war against quote-unquote military targets.

Look, that's a very important point. Yes. This really is, this is going to be a war against civilians. And we saw that right off the bat. We know how little the Israelis care about civilians because none of us have been blind as we watched the genocide in Gaza. But they are perfectly happy to kill as many Iranian civilians as they possibly can. No, that's true.

You know, look, they've been chomping at the bit. You know, as an American, I also second, look, my first thought is with the people of Iran who do not deserve this, did not provoke this, did not ask for this. And even their government was conned and fooled by President Trump who, you know, engaged the Omanis to, you know, to conduct diplomacy to try to bring this in for a soft landing, basically lied and said that there were several weeks to resolve this and then basically launched a dastardly sneak attack. It's kind of similar to what the U.S. accused Japan of when right before Pearl Harbor. It's like, guys, why did you attack?

We were negotiating. That's right. And look at the reporting. It's only early now, but reporting on, you know, this was supposed to be apparently a decapitation strike where we take out Ayatollah Khamenei with the administration not. understanding that taking out Ayatollah Khamanai is it going to do anything no nothing literally nothing I mean no it really it really won't I mean it's it's not Iran is not a dictatorship and uh you know it's like over three you they end also trying to kill him it's like well there's no coming back from that that's the guy's compound you tried to kill him um you know I mean you guys

already you know did that to Soleimani I mean you know the Iranians know exactly where they stand And Trump also brought up Soleimani last night, reiterating how good it was that he had killed him, how important it was that he killed him, and that we were going to cut the head off the Iranian leadership. That's just not the case. The Iranians are incredibly resilient. Yeah, they are. And not to mention, they have this unique series of overlapping governmental structures, right, that is uniquely Persian-slash-Iranian, right, where they have a lot of redundancy built into the system, which can cause. like bureaucratic inefficiency and it's hard to make decisions. But in a situation like this, when you're being attacked by a foreign adversary, it's incredibly useful. They have redundant

governmental structures throughout the system. I mean, you know, they can, you can take out big swaths of the Iranian government. It's not going to make any difference. No, it's not. D.H. Frank has a great question. Wartime presidents typically get major bumps in approval. I think this war will do the opposite. Agreed. What do you say? I totally agree. We talked yesterday or day before yesterday, we talked about a split within the Republican Party between the America First anti-war MAGA right and the John McCain wing of the party, which is rearing its ugly head again. And I think this is going to be different. I think this is going to seriously hurt Donald Trump. I'm going to, I would bet money that officials inside the White House, inside the executive office of the president,

are ringing their hands today saying that Donald Trump just threw away any last hope of stemming Republican losses in the midterm elections. John, I'm 100% sure you're right about that. And mainly for two main reasons that come to mind while my coffee, you know, sets in. Number one, we have, the MAGA wing of the GOP is very clear in the polls that they feel that the president has taken his eye off the ball on immigration. and on the economy. This is only going to confirm that, right?

And also, they're not pro-Israel. Then there's the, and then there's the domestic side of this, which is, the United States is, you know, just, hold on. Let me, let me, I need to, like, get into some of these questions here. How, Trump, the master of distraction and the most fickle leader in history, I'm truly worried. How long will this go on? Do you think Iran will need to bow down for it to end?

end. I think they're in it to the death. That's what I think, too. I think this is like Iraq. It's, uh, yeah, it's, it's really bad. Look, in terms of Trump's popularity, John, this is only going to hurt for one big reason. There's been no run up to this war, right? There's been no lube before he stuck it in, which is part of the reason that he snuck it in on a Friday night news dump. I mean, the American people have not been told that Iran threatens them, has W.E. UMDs is going to kill them or their friends or anything like that. I mean, there's been no prep at all. So this isn't at all like the Bush administration started scheming on 9-12 for an invasion

that came a year and a half later against Iraq. And, you know, Afghanistan was easier because, again, the people forget that. The groundwork for invading Afghanistan had already been laid from propaganda point of view a year or two earlier because of all the reports of the top. Taliban blowing up the bombion statues and all that and like the treatment of women. There was already the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. The embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998. So the American people already thought of Afghanistan as a Bette Noir.

They don't think of Iran as a Bette Noir. They used to after the hostage crisis. Sure. But that was half a century ago. A few generations ago. Yeah. Yeah. It's just not true anymore. No, it's not true anymore.

Let's do some more questions. Pipsqueak is asking, do we think any NATO country will back this? You know what? I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed to even say these words. Greece is going to back. Really? Israel and the U.S.

Yeah, because the Greeks are broke. The Greeks are weak. Cyprus is sitting on an ocean of natural gas of which the Greeks have a portion. they're lifting that gas with the Israelis. And I think the Greeks will do anything the Israelis tell them to do. Now, that is exactly the opposite of Greek public opinion, which is solidly, strongly with the Palestinians on the Gaza issue, and will likely be with the Iranians on this issue

because of the Greek people's opposition to war in general. That is insane. Well, I mean, that's, yeah, well, we'll have repercussions throughout the world, right, with U.S. allies and Gulf states and all that. Talk about unpopular governments. How about Trump's popularity, right? Which is currently, depending on how you look at it, between 36 and 38%, the lowest of his, including his first term in office, right?

So look, this is going to look for MAGA World. Oh, yeah, I wanted to say this, too, John. This is going to look for some people in MAGAWROLD as a huge Epstein distraction machine. You bet it will. You bet it will. It's funny. You look at the Washington. Post today. And of course, the banner is U.S. and Israel attack Iran as Trump calls for regime

change. And just underneath, it's Musk asked Epstein for, quote, the wildest party. Now he says he stands up for victims. So without this war, this, this attack, you know what the headline is going to be. Yes, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, yeah. And, you know, I mean, look, Obviously, this was planned. John, you called it weeks ago. You said, you know, you quoted the guy who, you know, who trained you originally at the agency and said, you know, you don't send carrier battle groups in if you don't plan to use them, right?

Am I paraphrasing correctly? There's, one of our viewers very generously emailed me last week to say that there was a, there was a podcaster talking shit about me. and maybe I should respond. So I looked at it and he was really talking a lot of shit about me. But it was about what I said a week ago, a week and a half ago, that a friend of mine at the White House said that a decision had been made to attack Iran, that it would come this past Monday or Tuesday,

obviously it was delayed a few days, but that the decision had been made. And then he was like, how the fuck does this guy know? He's been out of the CIA for 20 years. What are we supposed to believe? that people who have access the information, just call him and offer it up. Yeah, they do. Because they're opposed to war.

So yeah, there's a major serious split in the American government over this. One of the things that surprised me when I woke up this morning, Ted, was to see how many U.S. senators of both parties are condemning this action. Donald Trump didn't go to Congress and asked to invoke the,

the what do you call it act the oh my god i'm blank and i'm so mad right now to send forces to the middle east oh the war powers act war powers act thank you to send force to the middle east and there certainly has been no congressional declaration of war so this is a war crime it's illegal it's an illegal attack and it's completely unprovoked i mean there's no there's no attack by the iranians there was no threat of imminent attack there's no threat of not imminent attack The Iranians already, you know, the main demand of the United States was don't develop nuclear weapons. The Iranian said, no worries, we don't want to develop nuclear weapons. They've been consistent about this since the Islamic Revolution.

They voluntarily kept their membership in the nuclear nonproliferation pact that the Shah had signed. They didn't have to. They could have said, we just had a revolution. We don't have to keep this old treaty obligation. But they did. Day before yesterday, I was on a Lebanese network called Al-Mayadine. I love this station. It is such an in-depth.

I mean, it's in Arabic, of course, but it's such an in-depth news analysis station. I always say yes when they ask me to go on. So usually they have me sort of, you know, as a point, counterpoint with a professor. And they have fantastic professors, especially on American. in politics. And before yesterday, they had me debating the lead nuclear negotiator from Iran. I was shocked when he came on the screen, and that's who I was supposed to debate. But he said the same things that you just said, that the Iranians are signatories

to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. They allow nuclear inspections. It's the Israelis who have nukes, who won't. sign the NPT and who have forbidden any and all inspections. The Iranians have always been willing to play along with international law on these issues. And I made a point that at first he rejected outright and then finally came around and was like, well, okay. I said, look, what the two sides are negotiating right now is the JCPOA?

True. That's what it is. It's all the same tenets that were in the JCPOA. That Trump scrapped. That Trump scrapped unilaterally. Those points being that Iran couldn't enrich uranium to weapons grade, that the uranium that they were enriching as well as Iranian nuclear sites had to be open to inspection by the IAEA, which is the United Nations body,

and that if they were going to enrich uranium, they had to store the uranium in a third country with the three countries being considered, being Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Turkey. And the Iranians were agreeing to all that, because they had agreed to it 15 years ago with Barack Obama. Yeah, the only thing the Iranians did not agree to was scrapping their medium range, standard conventional missiles. And no country in its right mind would ever agree to no, they wouldn't. And the United States, all that would be doing is putting what happened last night and this morning off for another couple of years. That's all it would do, maybe. I'm sorry to interrupt you. Tark says, Tark, thanks for the buck. You say something that I say all

the time. Is the U.S. just a war economy? Yes. If we were not at war somewhere in the world, our economy would slip into recession. And this has been the case since the 9-11 attacks. That's how everybody in Washington got rich, has been off of our constant. full-time war economy. Robbie, our producer, has a question. I'm putting him on. Hi, Robbie. Hey, I just have a quick question, and I've been wrestling with this for a couple of days, and I'm really hoping that the two of you can answer it.

Mark Levin keeps going out, calling Tucker Carlson a traitor for opposing the strike on Iran. My question is, is how can you be a traitor if you oppose an action perpetrated by another country? To be a traitor means I would be actively working against my country, not opposing the geopolitics of another one. So then by that nature, by that logic, am I a traitor? Right. Can someone explain to me? It's like when they called Julian Assange a traitor.

Like a traitor. He's Australian. What are you talking about? It's insane. I don't get it. I despise Trump. I hate the man with a burning. I hate him.

When you've lost Robbie West, you're done. Seriously. Okay. Well, thanks Robbie for that. Let's do some more questions here. You yanks are in another civil war and the fascists are winning. Better get your shit together. Your democracy is dead.

I'm sorry. I think our democracy is on the way out. And I don't think there's any way to save it. I agree. Could this war expose U.S. and Israeli military weaknesses while driving America's main rivals, Russia and China, closer. Absolutely, yes.

And may I add something about that? Please. When Iran sent the 600 drones last October and the vaunted iron dome shot all of them out of the sky except for seven, the fact that seven slow motion drones got through the Iron Dome was very valuable military intelligence. It was a probing attack, basically. It was a probing attack. And so the Iranians learned.

And the Israelis knew it was coming, too. That's right. So what do the Israelis do if the Iranians launch a hypersonic against them? Which they probably will. I would if I were Iran. I would. Why not? There's no reason.

I mean, not to mention, I wouldn't feel terribly guilty. The Israeli people are behind Netanyahu. Yeah. I mean, the statistics are, you know, the polling is very clear on that point. I'm really sorry about to hear that. will Russia and China be closer? Look, Russia and China, we're getting closer anyway. This is, I think this is part of a, this is on a continuum, right, of U.S. behavior that is forcing other countries.

Right now, if I'm, if I'm Modi in India, I'm kind of like holding my dick out in the wind. Like, I just, I just came back from, you know, hanging out with Bibi. And it's like, I'm not feeling too good this morning. No. I agree. And, you know, this, this. He's 300 million Muslims in this country. Exactly right.

Yeah, that's exactly right. We should keep a close eye on the Chinese-Russian relationship, too. Iran is a BRICS country, as are China and Russia. As that organization becomes stronger, more fulsome, more inclusive, we should expect to see a formal alliance between the Russians, the Chinese, and the Iranians. And then what do we do? We're going to fight the Russians and Chinese for Israel?

That. And John, I have a question for you. Do you think, what's the calculus here for Donald Trump and the U.S. government and his administration? I mean, why is he doing Netanyahu's bidding so slavishly? You know, I think that deep down Donald Trump is an authoritarian. I think that he enjoys the, he enjoys looking like a military strong man. And I think that he doesn't actually believe in anything.

I don't think he believes in MAGA, you know, no war. I don't think he has any core beliefs. And I think that he thought that a quick decapitation strike, the Iranians would be dancing in the streets, thanking him and thanking God. And he would go down in history as, you know, as Teddy Roosevelt. And that's just simply not going to happen. It was never going to happen.

No. But he was the only one that thought that it would. Scott Ritter said this morning, Stephen says that we failed to kill the Ayatollah in the strike. What information do we have on this? The Israelis are claiming that they think that the Ayatollah Ali Kamenei was injured. I think they're just talking shit and they don't have any idea. If you're the, I mean, if you're the Iranians, obviously they knew that this was coming.

They knew there was a strong possibility this was coming. I mean, they're not stupid. I would have thought that he would be in another location, no? Yeah. And I'm sure that he was. They're not stupid. No. So I guess Donald does not want the video of him fucking a child released.

so hell continue to obey the orders of his Zionist masters. Netanyahu released a statement saying he's backing the Iranian people to overthrow the regime. Oh, I'm sure they're taking lots of cues from him. At the same time, he's sending cruise missiles into schools, apartment buildings, and hospitals. Yeah, they love him. What would the purpose of extended boots on the ground campaign be for extending war powers for the president? Well, he would have to go to Congress. I mean, he'd have to go to Congress.

I mean, if there's any respect left whatsoever for the Constitution. Yeah. But there may not be. And Congress isn't going to give him authorization to put boots in the ground. No way. And remember what we said last week, George W. Bush, in the weeks and months before the attack on Iraq, he crisscrossed the country to swing public opinion. Donald Trump has done literally nothing to swing public opinion. opinion.

Yeah. That's why this will not work. You can't fight a war that causes Americans to come home in body bags and costs the taxpayer billions of dollars and provokes future terrorist attacks without getting the American people behind you. Even if you do, that support may not last as people like LBJ and Richard Nixon and George W. Bush are well aware. But at least you have to start with it and you know you're going to like,

that support's going to flow out like a like a like a like a like a like a like a like a tied ebbing right but that's not he's not starting with that nobody wants this war there's literally no contingent there's no constituency for it no there's no there's no constituency for it thank you very much for the 200 uh i guess those are um Deerums, yeah, I always want to say, Benares. Thank you very much for that. Thanks for the Fiverr. I sent him, I guess Trump, campaign money because I thought he was skeevy enough to double across Israel.

Boy, was I wrong. We've had that conversation with Robbie. We did. To what extent George Tenet 421 wants to know? Does it seem that Israeli special ops and assets have been expended in a 12-day war and protests already? And by the way, John, that's a good question. question, right? I mean, the United States is running low on material because it gave to so many bombs,

especially dumb bombs, but also big bunker busters to Israel to destroy Gaza with. That's right. So that indicates to me that they have other weapons in mind. Yeah, I have to agree. It's it's been no secret that we're short of munitions. And the Israelis were short of munitions. That's why there was no attack on Iran. a month ago or two months ago. They were short of munitions. Iran's going to obviously be subject to, they're going to go after their infrastructure. They're going to,

it's like massive cyber attacks already underway an Israeli specialty. That's, they're going to try to bring them to their knees that way. I don't think it's going to work. I agree with you. We'll see. I don't think it is going to work.

Qatar airspace is closed. I was about to fly to Europe tomorrow with a stopover in Qatar. Yeah, the airport's in, in Kuwait, Dahran, Bahrain, Qatar, Abu Dhabi, and Dubai are all closed. No flights in or out. I was just there a week ago. I just can't believe it.

Robbie's asking, do we think Russia and China will assist Iran militarily? Or are they on their own? They're on their own. Yeah. Unfortunately. I think so, too. I mean, look, here's the thing. I'm sure that Vladimir Putin would, less so, President Xi, I think Vladimir Putin in his heart,

thinks it's an atrocity and would like to help his ally, but knows that it would be World War III. And that's the calculus for him. I will say that I would expect the Russians and Chinese to continue supplying the Iranians with air defense systems. But of course they have to get them there. I mean, obviously there's going to be a naval blockade. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Another war of choice and for Israel at that says D.H. Frank, way to go DJT, Donald J. Trump. You're some Sylvians to Israel as that country's slim is a disgrace. Do you think Iran did a huge mistake at striking other countries like Qatar, the UAE and others. Prentick Amier says, you know, it's an interesting, that is a good question, right? Because you can see the, you can argue it either way. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I think the, I think the advantage of, you know,

of it. I think there is some advantage to it, though. I mean, tactically, if you take out, like, airfields in those Gulf states, those are facilities that are no longer available for the US or the Israelis to use for, like, refueling and resupplying and stuff like that. You're not losing any allies that you had before. These are, these were not your friends to begin with. It's for domestic consumption, too. Like, we're not just taking it and, you know, we're, we're striking back against all the assholes. I guess the counter is, of course, you are making new enemies in the population that you might not have had before. I don't know.

What do you think? Yeah, I think that's right. I want to add to Al Jazeera now is reporting that one person was killed in Abu Dhabi after several missiles launched from Iran were intercepted. I would assume he was killed by falling debris, which would not be unusual. Bahrain said a missile attack targeted the U.S. 5th Fleet headquarters, which is right there on the water in the capital city of Manama. And Kuwait's defense minister said that the U.S. Air Base, the Aliyah Salam Air Base, is currently under attack. But so far, all of the Iranian missiles have been intercepted by Kuwaiti air defenses. Oh, and the Saudi foreign ministry is saying that Riyadh, was.

targeted. I didn't realize that the Iranians were going that far inland. I thought they were keeping it to the east coast of Saudi Arabia. So the capital city of Riyadh was targeted. Trump says you know, another thing we should be we should be looking for, Ted, is the continuing use of drones. One thing that the Iranians are very good at is they build their own suicide drones right there in Iran using Iranian parts and they can build lots of them. Remember, All these drones that they sent against Israel back in October, these were all homemade drones. And when I call them suicide drones, it means that they have explosives strapped to them, and they are remotely flown directly into a target where they explode.

They're not meant to launch a missile and then return to their base. So they commit suicide, so to speak. So Al Jazeera says that Irbyal airport in the Kurdish region of northern Iraq was targeted twice overnight. And specifically Irbyel International Airport was targeted, but air defenses intercepted and shot down a drone there. The reason that's important is because the Iraqi government has said repeatedly that it would not participate in any American attack on Iran. obviously it's close to the Iranian government. The Kurds have autonomy in the north. And what we could be seeing here is the Kurds independently supporting U.S. actions against Iran

and allowing the U.S. military and by extent the Israeli military to use their base in Erbil to attack Iran. That's an added little twist here. I could see that. Senator Mark Warner, who's the top Democrat on the U.S. even though they're a minority right now in the Senate Intelligence Committee, says that the gang of eight, which is sort of the traditional elite group of senators who are briefed ahead of actions like this, were briefed by Marco Rubio, but only a few of them,

and that they weren't given any or at least not a full accounting of the legal justification for the attack. John, there is no legal justification. So I guess there's none. that part. There's no legal justification. They don't even, the administration hasn't even pretended that there is a legal justification. We're doing this because the Israelis told us to. Yeah. That's it. I mean, I mean, I've always been hesitant when people have said, oh, we're just Israel's bitch. We're Israel's bitch. There it is. Chris Cahey, 1999. Thanks for the donation. Thanks for standing against this war. John and Ted, will Russia and China wage a proxy war against us?

what's the likelihood of World War III? Also, I'm dying to know what was William F. Buckley's relationship to the CIA. A lot of stuff there. Will Russia and China wage a proxy war against us? Well, I mean, we kind of are in one in Ukraine right now, and we could be in one in Taiwan. I mean, certainly one of the assessments, John, you know, we always hear this. At the agency, did you guys actually believe this idea that like when the U.S. is tied up and in something like this, that our adversaries think,

oh, this might be a good chance for me to get away with something I might not otherwise have been able to get away with. Yes. That calculation is always, always in the mix. Yes. I was never sure if that was just something they said or whether that's something they really thought was true. Iran can't meet the United States in open battle,

so that means irregular warfare. John, what are the chances that Iran will start terrorist attacks in Israel and the West? I think quite good. I think the chances are high enough that we should expect that to be the case. And it won't be next week. You know, it could be a year from now. It could be five years from now.

Sure. I mean, and it's not necessarily directly ordered from Tehran. It's like this could just be self-inspired people who are ideologically pissed off at what we're doing and decide that, you know, we need to be punched in the nose. Yeah. I think that's right. Hey, guys, glad it caught you. Does the Constitution still exist? Seems like it's turned into an objective object. It's, you know what it's like, John? It's sort of like how on the New Jersey turnpike, the speed limit is 55, but no one drives under 80. It's a suggestion, but it's not really enforced. You're not going to get a speeding ticket unless you're going well over 90. That's what the Constitution has become. Yep. Yep, yep. You guys have time in time. Ah, Ted Koba. You guys have time and time again praised Trump, but now you're mad. Now that the loose cannon that everyone has warned you will blow up, you're mad? I actually very appreciate that criticism. Seriously, I'm not getting. We have, I don't think it's fair to say that we have been licks spittles of this president. I think we both, first of all, I didn't vote for him. I voted for Jill Stein to the left of Kamala Harris. But I mean, we're not. Trumpies, but we're also willing to give this president his due when he does something right.

And I don't think that that makes us, you know, ass lickers of the administration. I don't know. Others may disagree. Yeah. I mean, the other day, I said nice things about Hillary Clinton for the way she handled herself when she was disrespected by the House Intelligence, by the House Oversight Committee. I hate Hillary Clinton. That does not make saying that she did something right or that she was a victim here does not make me a Hillary Clinton acolyte. Exactly. I'm proud to say that both of us just call it as we see it. I don't have any, I don't have any loyalty to anybody on either side. I know you don't either. Nope. And so, you know, we're human. Sometimes we're wrong, but we call it as we see it.

Totally, totally. But I do appreciate seriously. Don't hesitate if you think we're full of shit to tell us. Yeah. We'll engage you. Okay. We respect that. Thanks for the tolerance. The U.S. Okay, you already answered that. Thanks for the emergency pod.

And thank you for the 99. Let's see. Sorry. That's Sean WP. Thank you. Is the Strait of Hormuz closed, Rogue Bot wants to know? That's a great question. I don't think that it's formally closed, but I would guess that nobody.

I wouldn't send my ship. I wouldn't send my ship full of expensive ground through there, would you? No, and I'll tell you what normally happens in a case like this is Lloyds of London will make a blanket announcement that everybody's shipping insurance is temporarily suspended. Right, right, right, right. They're the ones who do all major maritime shipping. So get ready for the whole. Rudy says, if you criticize these illegal strikes, you're for Iran propaganda. Bring it.

I want Iran to win. Yeah. Okay. I want Iran to win. I want them to survive. Okay. The War Powers Resolution requires that the President communicate to Congress, the committal troops within 48 hours. It's immoral, not illegal.

Sorry, y'all. The War Powers Act is that's not the only thing at play here, though, right? Right. That's right. There's no legal justification on the United States has treaty obligations under international law that we're violating here yes and as a member as a u.n. charter member state right the u.n was our idea yeah it was our idea that's why it's in new york uh do you think it's real will nuke iran and blame the iran nuclear program for the blast charlie god forbid um i wouldn't put anything past the israelis

no i wouldn't either if the israelis really believe that they are under threat that their existence is under threat, yeah, they'll do it. And the winds don't go toward them, so they wouldn't care. That's right, they don't care. You know, at that point, I would have to say, well, I'm already at the point where I feel like Israel has lost its right to exist. But anyway, three birds, one stone. I could be misremembering thanks for the donation.

But didn't John say one time that Iran is under Russia's nuclear umbrella? No, I shouldn't that move the Russians right now. No, what I said was that there were discussions between the Iranians and the Russians about bringing Iran under its nuclear umbrella. Putin stepped back from that a couple of days after the statement was first made. And then everybody just assumed, including me, that what it would mean at the end of the day was that it was the message that was supposed to frighten the West away from making this attack, which didn't turn out to be the case. Dangerous person 666. Thanks for the five. I'm disappointed and surprised that Albanese and Wong from Australia refused to condemn crimes the U.S. or Israel commit. Today is supporting this BS. Why does our actual left-wing government capitulate? We hate this. I don't know enough about Australia. Do you, John? I doubt that I know any more than you do. Okay. Do we think terrorists— I'm sorry. Let me add one thing.

Benice, for all his opposition credentials, is pro-American. And the Australians recognize that they are the junior partner in that relationship. And so when push comes to shove, the Australians are going to do what the Americans tell them to do. No doubt. Potassium 3502, do you think any terrorist sleeper cells will get activated in the U.S.? This is your expertise, but I'd be no. No. When I was still inside, And granted, my information's old. There were no sleeper cells in the U.S. There are most definitely sleeper cells in places like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia. They're out there.

They're just not here. Thanks, guys, for doing. Thanks for the evil robot Arby. Thanks for the 10 bucks. Thanks for doing a Saturday morning podcast. What could Trump possibly be hiding from in the Epstein files that he's pulling every distraction lever available? Aliens, ICE, Iran, et cetera, et cetera. Right?

It looks like that. Yeah, it does. Who knows? I mean, I got to say, I was, you know, John, I've said it over and over. I just didn't think it was, you know, pedophilia was Trump's bag. You know, I know he liked sex, but I just never. And the reluctance to turn over half of the, of the Epstein files, well, it's refusal, I should say, coupled with all this distraction. And Marjorie Taylor Green.

being furious about what she's not telling us everything. I'm starting to reconsider that. Hey, Al Jazeera's just now in the last minute and a half is quoting the Iranian foreign minister Abbasarakshi as saying, and listen to this odd quote, Ayatollah Ali Khomeini is alive as far as I know. The heck are we supposed to take from that? Well, there's nothing to say about as far as you know.

That would tend to tell me that either communications are down or that they've got there on, you know, radio silence because they don't want their inner, their. That could be, it could be the radio silence. It says here, he added that two commanders were killed, but most officials remain alive. Most officials remain alive. And then, oddly enough, it says he also added that there is a possibility to reach a deal. with the Americans, which can guarantee that Iran's nuclear program is peaceful. What? We have some statements from foreign or from various countries around the world. Russia, unsurprisingly, condemned the war against Iran as a reckless step and a deliberate premeditated

and unprovoked act of armed aggression. Zelensky is all about it. He said it's important that the U.S. is acting decisively. This understanding must also come to the Russians. In the end, he said, the Middle East region will become safer and more stable. Man, you got to go back to your comedy show, Zelensky, if you think that. The president of Finland, Alexander Stubbs, said, recent events are very deeply worrying, ensuring nuclear safety and long-term securities of the utmost importance. We condemn all actions to escalate the conflict in the region. Ireland said he's deeply concerned and also is concerned about escalation.

Victor Orban of Hungary said that strikes on Iran have doubled the importance of the friendship oil pipeline that runs through Ukraine and supplies Russian oil to Slovakia and Hungary. Albania Prime Minister Eddie Rama says he stands firm with Israel and supports the U.S. The E3, France, Germany and the U.K., said they're in close contact with their partners and condemned Iran's retaliatory attacks. Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, and without a doubt the biggest lick spittle to Donald Trump in the world, said that Trump and the administration have made every effort to pursue peaceful and diplomatic solutions in response to the Iranian regime, sustains nuclear ambitions, support for terrorism, and the murder of Americans, and even their own people. Bullshit.

Dinky 33, thank you very, very much for 18. hundred UAE Durhams. Thank you for that very much. And Tatimare, please pray for the sailors in the region. Such senseless loss of life for a war of choice. We deserve better leaders. Hope your lent is going well.

Thank you for that. And same to you, and I couldn't agree more with your statement. Ted, may I add one thing? Please. This also just in from Al Jazeera. One of the targeted sites in Tehran is Narmac to the east. believed to be the residence of former populist president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Now, listen, he's the former president. He's not in any position of authority. He's retired. He was a moderate, too. Targeting him is simply an act of murder. That's it. It's gratuitous. It's gratuitous. It would be like going to war against Afghanistan and killing Hamid Karzai. Exactly.

Who is still living in Kabul. Yes. John, how would most of the CIA be reacting to all this scared, excited, genuinely curious? That's a great question. It was my experience during the Iraq War that people put their heads down and did as they were told. I remember my boss telling an assembled group, we're not here to take a political position one way or another. Because we all opposed the Iraq War. He said, we're not here to take a political position one way or another.

we are not a policy organization. We're a policy support organization. And so we are going to do what we are told by the White House to do. And my guess is they've had the same conversation today. Rudy, if this goes poorly, which there's a chance it will, oh, higher, better than 50-50, I'd say. It's all but destroys J.D. Vance's 2028 presidential hopes. You know, that's a great point.

I agree with that. Because J.D. Vance, first of all, he's, to quote Christopher Maltesante, he's the hair apparent, number one. Number two, what makes it really hard for a vice president, a sitting vice president, to run for president at the end of his president's term, is the very first question from reporters is, when did you disagree with the president?

Tell us, give us an example of when you disagreed with the president. He's not going to be able to say he ever disagreed with Donald Trump. That would be political suicide. Right. Well, this is a- That was a- The Kamala Harris question that she couldn't answer. Exactly. And it's a question that's asked of every sitting vice president who's running for president.

And so he's not going to be able to answer. If anything, this gives Marco Rubio an opening. Rubio said something very interesting two days ago. He said that he will not run for president if it looks like J.D. Vance is going to be the nominee. Well, you don't know if J.D. Vance is going to be the nominee until you run against him. And so I think that Rubio is lying to us. I think that he will run for president. I think that J.D. Vance is young and inexperienced.

And I think that he will get swallowed up in a national campaign. I think that the John McCain wing of the Republican Party is ascendant again, that MAGA was a blip and it was tied more to Donald Trump's personality than it was to any wave of political change. And so it's straight back to the, not even back. It's a continuation of the bad old days. If you're just joining us, we're covering the U.S. and Israeli attack against Iran. By the way, a new statement from the Iranian government, the governor of Mindab County, where that strike against the girls' school in southern Iran took place, now says the death toll

has ridden to at least 63 students with a further 92 injured. This was during daylight when the school was in session, when it was packed. with students, according to the foreign minister Abbas Arachi, posting on X, asked about the strike. Sentcom did not deny it. They said that they were aware of these reports and are looking into them. That's horrible. Looking into them. Does that tell you that they're just offering up lip service, or does that tell you that it was an Israeli

missile that did it? It's an Israeli missile. I thought so, too. The Israelis specifically target civilians. Yeah, no, they're into total war, as they used to call it during World War II. D.H. Frank, 99, President, Senators, and congressmen are habitual short-term thinkers. I think this has disastrous, long-term geopolitical implications. Yes, I agree with that.

Can you briefly discuss the geopolitical implications of this war? Well, I mean, first of all, this is going to put a lot of – do you tell me, I think this is going to put a lot of Sunni governments kind of like on their backs – back heel where they're going to have more of a division with their citizens over Israel and the United States and their relationships with them than they did in the past, right? I mean, I think this is going to have, this is also going to, you know, attach us, like I said, at the beginning of this edition. It joins us at the hip to Israel. I mean, we are now, you know, we're not like their allies supporting them and their attack against the people next door in Gaza and the West Bank.

we're now joining them in attacking the biggest, most powerful country in the Middle East. Hey, you want to hear something crazy? While we're talking about this, while Israel is hunkering down and waiting for the Iranian response, the Israeli military is bombing southern Lebanon right now. Always, the devil is always busy, as Robbie likes to say. Phil Pentangis, thank you very much for joining the show. I appreciate your members. getting, becoming a member.

We are, by the way, number six in the nation on Rumble right now, John. I believe this operation was one in which Russia was well aware of, and this will grow, draw a global interest to the Mideast, and I believe Trump is on the same page as Putin. What? Russia defeats UK, US, and Russia. No, I totally disagree with that. I don't think so.

What is it that former CIA, like Sarah Adams, see that John doesn't? I think Sarah Adams is nuts to tell you the truth. Sarah Adams never had access to classified information. She was an open source analyst analyzing press, and she's made quite a handsome living for herself by predicting imminent disaster. That's why people flock to her. They're like, oh, my God, she's from CIA,

and she's saying that the terrorist cells are going to destroy us. That's how she makes a living. She never had access to classified documents. Iran might be waiting to, thanks Hux Lex for the two bucks. Iran might be waiting for nightfall to unleash. It's possible. I mean, yeah, it's currently what? It's about a seven-hour time difference, something like that?

No, it's a, what's the time difference with Iran? Eight hours. Okay, so it's, so that means it's currently six o'clock in the evening in Tehran. Yeah, I mean, night's not going to fall for another two hours. We'll see. Peachie pie, I think you're full of shit half the time. ha, ha, ha, ha, but I still like watching you guys. Okay.

Thanks. You know, just keep watching. Super Telfa, 99. Do we think that the CIA is prepping the Kurds and the Taliban to proxy invade Iran in place of ground troops or is the U.S. prepping Delta to perform a similar operation in Venezuela? Certainly not the Taliban. I'll weigh in on that. No.

Alex Pierce, thank you very much for the $50. very grateful. Thank you. Iran winning means more Americans will die. I don't support this military action in any form. Fuggy says, but now that it's happened, I don't think it's appropriate that you say you want Iran to be victorious. You know, I don't think it's quote unquote appropriate, but when your government is

the aggressor in a war of choice and there's only going to be, I kind of feel like the people who say there's only two political parties, you have to vote for one. But there's only two, well, there's only two. sides here. One's going to win and one's going to lose. I don't want the aggressor who's acting illegally to win. So, you know, I mean, I do feel I love my country. I don't love my government. I want my government to fail in this endeavor. I don't want any Americans to lose their lives in this endeavor. I don't want any Iranians to lose their lives in this endeavor. Or for that many in Israelis to lose their lives in this endeavor. This is all, it's just really

pointless and hopeless. But I understand what you're saying. But I just, I just, respectfully disagree. Susan, I wonder if this will ultimately drive the U.S. economy into the ground. Well, war can do that. Yeah. Can we make a distinction between Iran and the Iranian regime? Putting Iranians in the same box is like putting Americans in the same box as the far left party present here.

Yeah, well, it's shorthand, right? When we say the Iranians in the context of a war, we're talking about the government. We're not talking about the people. That's right. Al Jazeera is on the side of the U.S. and Israel against Iran, so I wouldn't really trust them right now, says long-time listener. Not true. Why would you think Al Jazeera is reliable information?

Eris wants to know. Because they have people on the ground. And they've proven to be solid reporters. Al Jazeera has a very long history. It's been around a long time, decades. And, you know, three and a half decades. and they have proven that they have good reporters, good analysis, and they have people on the ground in these war zones. Cameron, it says Iran's retaliation hit U.S. bases across multiple Gulf states, even striking the U.S. Fifth Fleet Service Center in Bahrain.

What does this tell you about Iran's escalation ladder and its confidence? I do think that the Iranians have the ability, at least for the time being, to retaliate. They can't retaliate over the long term, of course, because their resources are finite. But they said they would inflict as much pain as they could in the event that they were attacked, and that's what we're seeing today. They kind of have to. Otherwise, what's the point of having a military? That's right.

Trip D, thanks for the five bucks. Good morning, a non-war question for you, John, from Sir Bikes a lot. Thanks for the donation. Can you explain the AI that you use and why? I have a friend who pays for chat GPT. Yeah, sure. I use perplexity. I find it to be far superior to chat GPT.

Chat GPT lies about me. It just makes stuff up. And, yeah, I don't like it. And it's been my experience that perplexity, for whatever reason, reasons I don't fully understand, perplexity offers much deeper analysis when I ask it to look at things. Yeah, I think perplexity is trained. on a lot of academic white papers. That would make perfect sense

because that's what I've used it for. Feral dogs, these guys love Kamala Harris for 2020. I don't know who these guys are, but it ain't John and I. Not a chance, man. Yiko Or Huskov, John, thanks for the fiber. Do you think the Iranians can utilize maritime drones to defeat U.S. ships

in the same way the U.S., the Ukrainians disabled the Russian fleet in the Black Sea? You know, that's a good question, and it's a hard question to answer. If they have enough drones, yeah, they can make an impact. You know, ships are notoriously excellent at defending themselves from incoming threats. But a ship has only so many defensive missiles on it. If you send a drone against a ship, as the Iranians did a week ago, we're going to shoot it down. If you send 500 drones against a ship, you can't shoot all of them down.

So basically these are like, yeah, these are like remote controlled, well, they're torpedoes, basically. Yeah, they're essentially slow motion torpedoes. That's right. I like this question, Cameron. John, if you're still inside the CIA, what would be the single most alarming indicator you'd be watching right now? The movement of ground forces. You know, we only have, I'm going to say, 50,000 troops in the region. You can't invade a country of 92 million people with 50,000 troops.

If we started moving hundreds of thousands of troops to bases in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, I would be genuinely worried. And there's also talk of taking the only other active aircraft carrier strike force battle group that we have and moving it to the region. That would frighten me. John, I'm able to continue a little bit if you are, but it's up to you. Do you mind? I've got to drive to New York, but let's do another 10 minutes. We can wrap up some questions. And thank you, everyone, for watching this special edition of D-Program with Ted Roll and John

Kirooku for Saturday, February 28th, covering the U.S. and Israeli attack against Iran. So I like this question a lot, Ali. I have a more abstract question. How much does Israel truly gain from provoking Iran like this? I understand the goal of a coup and how that benefits. I mean, that won't happen. But is that really what this is, full on war? You know, that's a great question.

From the Israeli side, the only thing that the Israelis could call a victory is the complete overthrow and removal of the Iranian government. Anything less and the Israelis lose. Which brings us to this comment from Joseph, Iran needs to survive, not win. That's right. Exactly right. that is exactly right. This is the famous conversation between Dulles and Ho Chi Men, right? Like, you know, you will win, you Americans will win every battle and we will win the war.

A6, killer. My brother's work at Shannon Airport in Ireland, which is used as a refueling base for American troops on their way to the Middle East. I'll ask him to keep an eye out for an uptick. That's important. And I'm glad to read that because I'm reminded of a conversation I had yesterday with a friend in Cyprus. And she told me that something's going on at the British Air Force base there, Akrotiti. She said they don't release any information, of course. And the British, you know, have had it for 100 years. They've never, they've never ceded any control to the, to the Cypriots.

But she said, something's going on. I said, oh, I can tell you what's going on. We're getting ready to bomb Iran. And there it is. Speaking of which, conspiracy podcast says John, have you watched Bustamante's last video about calling you wrong on the timing of the bombings? Plus love your content. Yeah, Bustamante is a clown.

And all I can do is laugh and shake my head, Bustamante. He's probably already volunteered to go back and fight Iran. Young Locke, thanks for the dollar. Sending you this message from Ireland, I hope these strikes are wrong. Sorry, not I hope. These strikes are wrong

and wholly indefensible. I hope. I hope the American people have the good sense to vote against this in November and in 28 because this is awful. My problem, John, is who would they vote for? I mean, the Democratic Party is not going to say anything sizable against this. They're not against the war or attacking Iran. They're against the fact that they haven't been brought into the briefings. Yeah, that's exactly right.

That's it right there. It's like you didn't invite us to the war party. And Newsom is pro-Israel, and Shapiro not only is pro-Israel, but served in the Israeli military. There's not a single Democrat. Yeah, exactly. There's not a single Democrat running for president who is not pro-Israel. And you can say exactly the same thing about the Republicans. Yeah, there's no one to vote for.

And it's very depressing, not to mention, as we've talked about in other contexts, I mean, there is definitely an assault on the idea of even having a midterm election this year. And, you know, as the Washington Post reported late last week, you know, the administration is considering nationalizing the elections. I think as a sort of first step to declaring a national emergency to possibly not even hold them at all. You know, a non-war question for you, John. I've recently become fascinated with by Kazakhstan. I never realized how beautiful of a country it is. What's your knowledge and experience like there?

Well, Ted's actually the expert on Kazakhstan, but to tell you the truth, we're hoping to get there this summer. We are. That's right. So, yeah, Kazakhstan is a stunning country. I've been there many, many times. And yeah, I look forward to going back. It is one of the big secrets is that it's one of the biggest new oil rich countries in the world starting in 1999. and it is a fascinating country with a rich history. But that's for another topic. Hey, I want to thank Sergeant Potato, too, for the 80 Australian dollars. Thank you very much. He says, John, I'm a big fan, started listening to your podcast in 2024, and your

stories are incredible. The way you tell them makes me feel like I'm right there in the room. That's exactly what my goal is, wishing you all the success. Thank you very much for that. And there was something, John, do you have an official TikTok account? There are quite a few people impersonating you there. Robbie, do I have an official TikTok account? Let me put Robbie on.

Hold on. You do. It's going to be going live tomorrow. So you do have an official TikTok account. And you also have an official Rumble account. All of your shorts are going to be blasting across on Instagram, TikTok, and here on Rumble, as well as YouTube. Awesome. Thank you, Robbie.

Okay. Just some updates. British planes, according to U.S. UK. Prime Minister Kier Starrmer says that British planes are in the sky in over the Middle East to participate in coordinated defense efforts to protect British interests and allies. The Senate Majority Leader Tom John Toon praised Trump for his attack against Iran, and he said that he's looking forward to a briefing for all of the U.S. senators. And finally, maybe not finally, but

Iran is believed now to have thousands of missiles and drones in its stockpile ready to strike throughout the entire region, according to CNN analysis. Yeah, this is not going to be short. I've got breaking news coming in. It looks like that there has either been a drone or a missile strike in the Palma district of Dubai. Shit. It looks like a hotel is gone. Wow. Or at least a building next to a hotel.

and the Kuwait International Airport is currently under attack. So Iran is definitely fighting back. Well, I guess you have nothing to lose. Yeah. Then you go, hell, that's what I would do. If you're going to kill me, I'm going to do as much damage as I possibly can. Oh, my God. I'm going to text a friend of mine in Dubai right now.

Oh, my God. It looks like it's, it is actively happening as we speak. And you know, sorry, go ahead. Sorry, the telegraph, the UK paper, is reporting that missiles are being seen flying to and fro over Dubai. Oh, my God, I'm mighty. Let's see. Just looking for some more stuff here. Looks at the Kuwaiti airport was actually hit.

It just flew in and out of Kuwait three weeks ago. Flew in and out of Dubai a week ago. Launches near, I'm going to butcher this name, Kwam. Q-O-M. Com, the holy city of Iran. Yeah, Kuhm. Looks like I could say it is a swarm of ballistic

missiles that people are recording taking off. So I don't know where they're going, but they're going somewhere. KOM is the most important city in Iran for the study of Islam. And it's also something of

an industrial city. To me, there's no reason to hit a city like Kom. There are no Iranian Air Force bases there, for example, unless you're trying to destroy civilian infrastructure. Oil refinery in Saudi Arabia just went up. Oh, my God, this is... What are you looking at? I am looking at Middle East Spectator over on Telegram.

And I'm also looking at... I will send you... I will forward this over to you right now. And I'm also looking at some Russian Telegram channels, and they are... just they're sending stuff as we speak. There's footage online right now of people celebrating and dancing in Tel Aviv.

I bet they are. Fuck them. That's that's my message to you. If you're an Israeli, fuck you. From America. This is your war, not mine. Yeah. Yeah.

Massey Roe-Connor, 2028. Man. Well, it is as bad as we thought it was going to be. Yeah, yeah, well, totally. So I guess we're going to watch this. John, are you traveling today? Yeah, I'm going to jump in the car now.

All right, so maybe we can do this tomorrow. We'll see. This is no promises. This was a spontaneous thing. We saw what was going on, and we thought we needed to hop on. So thank you, everyone, for watching. Best of our thoughts and prayers, as they say, to the people of Iran, and I apologize on behalf of our country, really.

And, you know, it's going to be a rough few days at least. Guys, thanks so much for watching and supporting D. Programme with Ted Rall and John Kiroakou. We will be back as scheduled on Monday at 9 a.m. Eastern Time. That's when we air Monday through Friday, 9 o'clock Eastern Time. John, safe travels. Robbie, talk to you later. and we'll if there's more to bring you and we're able to do it we will pipe in like we did just now and otherwise have a great weekend bye bye everybody