DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - Israel Legalizes Lynching | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss:• No one can question that Israel is a far-right apa...rtheid state now that the Knesset has made death by hanging the default sentence for murder—but only for Palestinians. Jewish Israelis who commit the same crimes like West Bank settlers who lynch Palestinians to steal their land, will get to live. Execution by hanging will occur within 90 days of sentencing, with some right to delay but no clemency. Israel abolished the death penalty for murder in 1954. The ​only person executed in Israel after a civilian trial was Adolf Eichmann, in 1962.• Spain blocked U.S. military aircraft involved in the Iran War from using its airspace, marking the latest rupture between Washington and Madrid. Spain already had refused to allow use of the strategically critical Rota and Morón bases in southern Spain, installations long viewed as key hubs for American military operations into Europe, Africa and the Middle East. • Iran attacked and set ablaze a fully loaded Kuwaiti crude oil tanker anchored at Dubai port, with the strike damaging the vessel’s hull. Is Iran is trying to lure the U.S. into a ground war, knowing prolonged involvement could force Trump into a more favorable deal for Tehran? Dual chokepoint disruptions in the Strait of Hormuz and Bab el-Mandeb could cripple up to ~45% of global oil supply, potentially sending prices toward $150–$200+ and pressuring the global economy. Gas in the US is now an average of $4/gallon.• Ron DeSantis, Florida’s governor, signed a bill saying Palm Beach international airport is being renamed to the President Donald J Trump international airport. Trademark applications are pending for extensive lists of merchandise — clothing for people and pets, bags, watches, jewelry, umbrellas, tie clips and socks, along with airport lounges. Trump also posted a video of a rendering of his presidential library, set to dramatic music, which showed an enormous mirrored skyscraper emblazoned with his name and the American flag.MERCH STORE: https://www.deprogram.livehttps://x.com/tedrallhttps://x.com/JohnKiriakouLIVE ON RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowSPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kdFlw2w8sSPhKI8NRx8ZuAPPLE MUSIC: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall/id1825379504

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Starting point is 00:00:11 Good morning. You're watching D. Program with Ted Rall and John Kirooku. Robbie West is in and out today because his tummy is not feeling too good. So we're sorry about that, Robbie. So anyway, thanks for liking, following and sharing the show. We're here Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. Eastern time. Beginning tomorrow, supplementally, we will be doing an exclusively question and answer show. So that'll be Wednesday, 12 noon tomorrow, again next week, Monday and Wednesday. So that's the deal going from five to seven hours a week, which I'm looking forward to.
Starting point is 00:00:50 So today we're going to be talking about this heinous new law, John, that's just been passed by the Knesset in Israel and is very likely to be signed into law by Benjamin Netanyahu that basically restores the death penalty by hanging in Israel, but only for Palestinian. not for Israeli Jews. Right. But Israel is not an apartheid state. No, not an apartheid state at all. Basically, it's lynching. We'll get into that. Spain became the latest country to join France and Italy,
Starting point is 00:01:24 not allowing its airspace to be used for the U.S. to attack or support the attack against Iran. A fully loaded Kuwaiti oil tanker was fully set ablaze by the Iranians in the port of Dubai. If you look at the video, it's pretty impressive. Yeah. But they did manage finally to put it out for environmental reasons alone. I'm glad they did, but holy cow.
Starting point is 00:01:50 It looks like now the powers that be in official Washington are sort of getting a clue that, you know, Iran is winning and that they're trying to lure the U.S. into a ground war. May I interrupt you on that, Ted? Please. There's a report that came out less than five minutes ago. I've got it right here. The Iran National News Agency, INN, says an IRGC spokesperson, Brigadier General Ali Mohamed Naini, said that Iranian missile strikes
Starting point is 00:02:20 killed members of Israel's military intelligence. Iran reportedly fired dozens of missiles at the headquarters of the Israeli military intelligence agency Amman, considered the backbone of military intelligence collection. Wow. If true, that's a big deal. There's video. I have no idea if the video is real or if it's AI, but this is what the Iranians are reporting.
Starting point is 00:02:50 All right, we'll follow that. And if anybody hears anything about that, you know, put it into the chat. Please, by the way, put in your questions into the live chat. If you're watching on Rumble or YouTube live in the 9 o'clock hour Eastern, we have some leftover questions from yesterday. We'll get to those first thing. We'll also, any Q&As that we, questions that we don't get to today, we'll kick into tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And then everything gets asked during the Q&A. And of course, obviously, it'll be a live chat. And Q&A is basically anything that you want to know, anything. Rhonda Santis signed a bill officially proclaiming Palm Beach International Airport will be named the President Donald J. Trump International Airport. We'll be talking about that. And also the presidential library, you see the pictures with the big red, white, and blue penis up on top. Very exciting. The giant flag.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I mean, oh, my God. It's ridiculous. And two golden statues, not one. Two golden statues. And, of course, copying the Reagan library with an Air Force one in the lobby. You know, John, the thing about that library thing is sort of like people online, Republicans are posting comparisons of it to the Obama one in Chicago and they're like, which one's better looking? I'm like, neither. They're both shit. They're both awful. Why do people insist on this either or all the time? They're both awful.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Both. Yeah. It's like we can get together. We can have bipartisanship on shitty architecture. Yeah. All right. So let's, I guess, should we knock something off and then do some, do some of the leftover questions? Absolutely. We can start with Israel. I mean. Yeah, let's do that. This is sickening. So the Israeli Knesset, as you pointed out, has passed this law calling for the death penalty by hanging, but only for Palestinians who are convicted of taking a life during the commission of a terrorist act. But of course, it's the extreme right-wing government in Israel that decides what meets the criteria of a terrorist attack and what doesn't. And this would by definition not apply to West Bank settlers. who attack and who are terrorists, who are terrorizing and attacking, you know, Palestinians who are
Starting point is 00:05:11 locals in order to, you know, just to get rid of ethnically cleanse them and in many cases to steal their land. Yeah. And so, yeah, I mean, basically their, their cell of Ben-Gavir was photographed, a videotaped, toasting this passage of this law with champagne. He said, this is a quote, we will count them, the hanged Palestinians, one by one. he said while laughing. This is a bloodthirsty government.
Starting point is 00:05:39 John, at this point, nobody can question that it's an apartheid state. Because this is, I mean, even apartheid South Africa didn't have a separate legal code for whites and blacks on paper. It was an egalitarian society. It was just in practice. They had apartheid. In this case, they're codifying racial and, and, and, and, you know, they're codifying racial and, and their discrimination within the areas in their control. And I know what they're going to say is,
Starting point is 00:06:09 well, this applies not to Israel proper. It applies to the West Bank. But that's sophistry. They've controlled this territory since as long as you and I are alive. And it specifically, it specifically exempts settlers who kill Palestinians from coverage. So if you're a settler, you're just some guy from New Jersey who goes to the West Bank
Starting point is 00:06:32 opens fire on some Palestinian family, you're good to go. But if you're a Palestinian who shoots the guy from New Jersey to protect your home from being seized by these American settlers, you're hanged. It's a nice country. Yeah, nice country. So the death penalty was abolished in 1954.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Yeah. The only exception was Adolf Eichmann, who was hired in 1962. And so basically, I don't know how they justified that just by saying, well, war crimes are different or whatever. Because if there's no death penalty, I don't know, maybe he was tried not under Israeli criminal law, right? Yes. So basically, this is a country that's kind of been a small L attempt. There's been a strong tradition of small L liberalism, the, you know, the Holkibbutz movement. There's a socialist movement.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I mean, there's no left at all. There's no moderate at all. This is a far, far right. John, how is anyone going to still in the United States? How are the Zionists going to be able to continue to defend Israel? I mean, I know they'll try, but how are they going to do it? They will. They'll try. But it's going to be one of those disingenuous things, Ted. How can you possibly defend something like this? It's disgusting. Can you imagine? equal justice under the law is absolutely how can you claim that you're a democracy if the only democracy in the Middle East if you don't have equal justice under the law that's right that's right no this this
Starting point is 00:08:12 there's just no upside to this there's no way to defend it there's just no way I mean do you think what do you think's going to happen when they start hanging Palestinians which they will and by the way this is a mandatory sentence John I mean like if you're found guilty of this offense death. They're supposed to hang you within 90 days. There's a few provisions for a slight delay, but probably not to be granted in most cases. No clemency is possible, right? So later, also, if it turns out that the person's not guilty, got to do the scare quotes for that. Well, there's no takebacks. It's not like, no. When you're dead, you're dead. That's the end of it. So how on earth do the same people who criticize Iran for hanging political dissidents?
Starting point is 00:08:57 How are they going to be able to criticize, defend the Israelis? I mean, it's the same thing. I can actually easily see how some of these, some of these, well, two camps. First of all, right winger is on Capitol Hill. You know, they view the death penalty as legit punishment and that it's better, let me rephrase, it's less bad to kill an innocent person than to allow a,
Starting point is 00:09:27 a guilty person to live. I view it exactly the other way around. Exactly the other way. I'm with you. That's the one hand. On the other hand, among Democrats, I think that the most ardent Zionists among the Democrats are going to say,
Starting point is 00:09:44 well, you know, terrorism, we don't want another 9-11. We don't want another October 7th. Or they'll just be like, la, la, la, la. I can't hear you. They just won't come.
Starting point is 00:09:57 comment on it. Sure. Sickening. Absolutely sickening. And then I guess we could talk about Spain, because that's a pretty quick thing to get out of the way. So Spain is pissing off the right and the Trump administration by not allowing U.S. Air Force to aircraft to cross. Apparently, that's a pretty big deal because traditionally Spanish airspace has been... I don't know if Ted is frozen or if I'm frozen. Actually, can somebody let me know if Ted is frozen? Somebody in the chat? I would sure appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:10:50 This thing has been happening. Yeah, Ted's frozen. Okay. Okay, Ted's frozen. All right. Thank you. John's good. When we were getting ready to go on the show for like 20 minutes beforehand,
Starting point is 00:11:10 I froze three times. You know what? So I'm going to take this, I'm going to take an opportunity till Ted comes on of saying that we got, both Ted and I got an email from Scott yesterday saying that he believed it was a mistake to focus yesterday on that issue that was happening. And I wanted to say thank you for that email, Scott. And your concerns are duly noted. And I have to say, in retrospect, you're probably right. Yeah, I kind of agree with that too.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I don't I'll be the contrarian like usual I mean go after my friends I'm going to go after you now but we we should have been talking about the issues yesterday though too I will admit that after the show
Starting point is 00:11:59 when I was replaying the show in my mind I was thinking oh that was kind of a pity party for John and Ted we probably shouldn't have done that it shouldn't be about us it really should be about the news I'm going to push back again
Starting point is 00:12:15 because as Ted knows Ted's frozen again so yeah it's what it is no he's John frozen I think both frozen no I'm here I'm here John's frozen awesome we're just gonna rotate
Starting point is 00:12:28 so I'm picking my guts so I'm just gonna so I'm picking my guts out and the two of you are taking turns freezing this is going to be a great show so oh hey I'm back there we go
Starting point is 00:12:41 but no I mean seriously here's how I look at this this is your show and what I'm talking about you I'm talking about you the viewer this show would not exist without your being here your donations your watch hours the people watch the people tune in every single day and watch if it was not for you this show would not exist and so you all of you have a vested interest to know what is going on with the hosts of this show the attacks that they go through you all know what happened to me back in November. How is this any different? serious question.
Starting point is 00:13:15 That's right. If anything, it's worse because they're spoofing phone numbers and people that you know, they're spoofing your phone numbers that this guy was. And if you're butt hurt because we address this issue, that's a you problem. That's not a John and Ted problem. And for once, it's not a Robbie problem either. Yeah. It's like, how about just engage instead of harassing people who you disagree with, which frankly, I don't do. John doesn't do. Robbie doesn't do. Like, it's like, you know, look, there's lots of venues just like this one that you can use to express yourself and prove and, you know, make fun of us and show how we're wrong.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And at the same time, we really did report this to the FBI yesterday. We really did report it to the two carriers, AT&T and T-Mobile, and they're on it. Like, everybody's on it. Someone said, by the way, several people said, like, oh, I thought. John didn't like the FBI. I don't, except when they work for me. And they work for me. I'm a taxpayer.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Yeah. I don't like the FBI either. I don't like, John and I both talked about it like, oh, man, I hate to involve cops. You know, we did. We said that. I'm not one of the, you know, if you see something, say something. If I see something, I don't say anything. But, you know, sometimes it can't be helped.
Starting point is 00:14:34 So, yeah. Rob, you have some housekeeping. Yeah, let me get this out of the way before I go away again. So if you send me a super chat that we miss, knowing the donation amount is nice, but I don't really need it. Really what I need is the question. If you send me the donation amount without a question,
Starting point is 00:14:52 I don't know what question it is that you're trying to ask. So really, that's the biggest thing. And also, John now has a official TikTok. He twisted my arm. He says, Robbie,
Starting point is 00:15:04 I want to get on TikTok. I'm like, no, you don't want to go on TikTok. He said, yeah, I do. So he now has a official TikTok at official.
Starting point is 00:15:11 John Kariaku, they're on TikTok. So he's there and he's on Rumble and I will be working on fluffing out that content all this week and just blasting stuff out. So go follow. Also, I'm still on Cameo. I'm happy to say I had lunch on Friday with the CEO of Cameo. He came into town just to have lunch really because I set an all-time record for the number of cameos done in the month of March. And I'm third all time in cameos already behind only Brian Baumgartner, Kevin from the office. And of all crazy people, George Santos.
Starting point is 00:15:58 What a what a rogues gallery. So listen, if you want a cameo, just go to cameo.com. Type in John. Just type in John and I pop right up, which they thought was hilarious. That is hilarious. And I'll tell you who I passed to be number third. And he sent me a cameo congratulating me was Johnny Sack, Vince Curitola from the Sopranos. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:16:26 He's like, John Kariaku, Johnny Sack here. I'm a big fan. He says, you've dethroned me as the number three on cameo. So now that both of us are in the Cameo Hall of Fame. Congratulations. That's awesome. All right, Robbie. It's awesome. I love it.
Starting point is 00:16:43 We got everything covered on your end. Yep. I'm going to let you go back. But you'll come over to rubble. Come hang out. Weather's fine. And the page board. Happy nausea.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Okay. We'll see. Oh, and also can you tag my TikTok in the chat so people know which one is actually mine? Yep. I'll do it. Thank you, buddy. You're welcome. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Okay. Back to the news. I don't know if I'm going to follow you over to TikTok. Probably not. Okay. So Spain, we got, we got interrupted. How important is this story? I think this is very important.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yesterday when we talked about, we talked about Spain closing its airspace to the U.S. military, we also predicted that other countries would follow suit. And now other countries are following suit. Italy? Yeah. Italy today said France is next. Yes. The France already said so.
Starting point is 00:17:38 France already said so. And Ireland, Ireland is, you know, it'll happen today. So, you know, Donald Trump, too, has been so hypocritical about this. On the one hand, he said, you know, screw NATO, we don't need NATO, we don't like NATO, we don't trust NATO. We threatened to invade Greenland and Greenland's owned by Denmark, which is a NATO country. Screw NATO. And then on the other hand, he's like, why isn't NATO helping us?
Starting point is 00:18:06 Well, wait a minute. You just said we don't need NATO. screw NATO. Now you're lamenting the fact that NATO is not helping us. First of all, you never consulted with NATO. Exactly. You never got them on board. Yeah. We never went to the NATO countries and said, listen, we're going to invade Iran. And so we're going to want your help. Never said a word. We just did what Netanyahu told us to do. And then we just were self-flagellating over the fact that NATO doesn't want to jump in and fight our war for us. I don't understand this administration's seeming complete disinterest in buy-in,
Starting point is 00:18:42 whether it's domestically or internationally. They don't feel like they need to get anyone else involved and they want to go it alone, and yet they want everyone to help them out. That's the part I don't get at all. When I want to do something on my own without my friends or family's approval, I just, you know, I do that because I don't need or want their help. Why would Trump think anything different?
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yes, I have to agree. You know, there are going to be some NATO countries, Greece being the most obvious, that are going to carry Israeli water. This is something that I'm ashamed of as a dual U.S. Greek national. The Greeks are doing it strictly for the money. Greece historically was the closest European country to the Palestinians. All the various Palestinian groups through the 70s, the 80s into the 90s, had representative offices in Athens, and the PLO had an embassy in Athens. And then as soon as natural gas was discovered under Cypriot waters, and the Cypriots and the Greeks needed help to lift the gas, and the field stretched all the way to Israel, and the Israelis jumped in and
Starting point is 00:20:01 said, hey, not only will we help you lift this gas, but Turkey's our enemy and Turkey's your enemy. So one of the three of us huddle on this. And the Greeks have been in bed with the Israelis ever since. Sad. As Trump would say, hashtag, sad. Christian banks, let's ask you do some of these questions. 2656. Thanks for the five bucks. Was a Trump re-election the only shot at sparking a socialist revolution by exposing the U.S. if Kamala won, we'd have been pacified by quote-unquote democracy. Hashtag anarchy. Look, I would love. love to see a socialist revolution. Nothing would make me happier. But I don't think we are in a pre-revolutionary moment. I think we're in a counter-revolutionary fascist moment. I'm about to write
Starting point is 00:20:52 my column probably later today for this week. And I think we are officially entering what Robert Paxson would officially define as a fascist state. It has been like, you know, well, we're in danger, but we're not there. But I don't. don't think that's true anymore. Oh my God, John. Oh, there's John. Okay. I don't know what the heck is wrong with my connectivity today.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I don't know. I'm like the strength, the signal strike that has blown the doors off the place. I'm plugged right into the wall with the Ethernet cable. But you're not, it's not stable, though. It's not stable. I don't understand it. All right. So, anyway, so in terms of that question, if Kamala had won, we'd have been pacified.
Starting point is 00:21:36 That's true. We would have been brunch back. Brunch Democrats would have prevailed. Thanks for the $999 from, oh my God, this is so embarrassing. From Brady. Okay, so the question were thoughts, this is for you, John. Thoughts on James Fishback. I got in a little trouble with James Fishback last time.
Starting point is 00:22:00 So somebody asked me about James Fishback three or four weeks ago, and I said, I saw the guy on Tucker, and he made a lot of really great points. and I said if you're in Florida and you're a voter, a registered Florida voter, and you're going to vote in the Republican primary, take a look at James Fishback. And within seconds, somebody blurted out on X that I've endorsed James Fishback. Oh, no. And the next thing you know is there are pictures of James Fishback with Nick Fuentes and with the Tates and all of a sudden I got burned.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I will say James Fishback, I like James Fishback's position on APEC and on political support for Israel. I like it very much. I think he makes a lot of sense. He's polling under 5% in the Florida primary. He's very young. I think he has a future, a political future. I think he needs to drop the likes of Nick Fuentes.
Starting point is 00:23:08 and make a name for himself. On the issue of Israel, I like his position. I don't know about his other positions. I'm not a Republican. I'm not an alt-right. I'm not a conservative in any way. So I'm not endorsing James Fishback. I've never endorsed James Fishback,
Starting point is 00:23:32 but I'm interested to watch that race. John, two breaking pieces of news. First of all, that Russian ship containing seven 130,000 barrels of oil has arrived in Cuba. Why did the Trump administration agree to that after, you know, I mean, is it another taco moment? What's going on? The Iranians are kicking our asses right now.
Starting point is 00:23:55 We can't risk both the Iranians and the Russians kicking our asses at the same time. I think that's really what it comes down to. Would the Russians have attacked us militarily? I doubt it, but I think the Russians could have made things difficult in a whole bunch of of different ways if we had tried to block this shipment of fuel. And the truth is crazy as it sounds. Well, the U.S. Embassy is going to be a recipient of that fuel, too. Well, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:24:24 My take is that if Cuba collapses now, the U.S. is really going to have its handful because it's going to have to create some kind of law and order regime involving U.S. troops down there, right, to try to keep things from falling apart too quickly. Also, yes. The U.S., this is from Reuters. They always have, they've been doing a lot of yeomen's work lately. Oh, they've been terrific the last few weeks. U.S. counterterrorism officials are planning a summit targeting Antifa and all, and the left in general. That's why I have my French passport renewed. What? I have been telling my
Starting point is 00:25:08 friends and family members that I intend to buy a condo in Athens by the end of the year. And then about a week ago, a little business opportunity popped up. And I thought, you know what, I've got a couple extra dollars for the first time in 20 years. Maybe I'll think about this little business opportunity and put my money there instead. No. No. The house is, yeah, you can do, business, business comes and goes. Personal. safety is forever. Tarique, thanks for the $2. On a lighter note,
Starting point is 00:25:43 12 tons of Kit Kat bars. I remember that. I read that. We're hijacked en route to Poland. Nestle had to publish a presser. What's the world coming to? John, also, what nobody's talking about is not only is all that chocolate missing and the truck.
Starting point is 00:26:00 The driver's MIA, too, but nobody seems to care about that. Unbelievable. It's like Tucker Carlson's entire shipment of chewing tobacco disappeared a couple of weeks ago. It's like millions of dollars all packed into an 18-wheeler.
Starting point is 00:26:16 It's probably being sold out of the back of somebody's trunk in Brooklyn. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt about that. I used to see that all the time. I bought a TV that way out of someone's car one time. My dad bought my mom a fur that way. The same dude sold me
Starting point is 00:26:30 the first public enemy like bootleg tape. So obviously there was some sort of connection there. By the way, it's highly collectible and very good. Rall Dubru, thanks for the 499. First of all, thank you, gentlemen. The show has found me at a perfect time in my life. What would be some advice you would give a new father? I love that question.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Oh, that's a great question. In fact, it's a question that I've answered at least a dozen times on cameo. May I start? Please, you have five. I have five kids. The advice is. is for your wife. Tell your wife to sleep every time the baby sleeps.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Okay? The baby's going to be up like only four hours a day, right? But those four hours are in the middle of the night. So tell her to sleep every time the baby sleeps. The laundry can wait. The shopping can wait. Make grocery delivery your friend. Don't worry if the house gets a little, you know, dirty.
Starting point is 00:27:34 It needs to be vacuumed. That's what, That's what grandmothers are for when they come to help. So tell your wife to sleep at every opportunity. You should sleep too, but do whatever you can to backfill what needs to be done in the house. Treat her like a queen. She needs kindness right now. That's all 100% correct.
Starting point is 00:27:56 My advice would be, and this is for moms too, the marriage comes first. The kid comes a very close second, but the marriage has. has to be first because that's what's holding it together for the kids. I think a lot of American parents don't do that. They put their kids first and their marriage second, and then they end up miserable, tired, and divorced, and it sucks. That's right. A weird Monday, thanks for Hogs Candyland, thanks for the $5.
Starting point is 00:28:27 A Weird Monday becomes Crash Out Tuesday. I don't know how this ends. Thanks for the reply on X-John, made my day better. Jackson McGrath, thanks for the five Australian dollars. John, I bet Ben Shapiro will still say Israel isn't a part-hide. And Ted, I have ADHD. People call me the R-word, but I give you the pass. And hi, love you, Rob.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Thank you. Manchild, $5,000, $2.000. Thank you. Good morning. Is there any thought to whether Iran or their proxies are planning symbolic or high optics provocations, specifically time to coincide with Passover. If so, they deserve it, in my humble opinion. That wouldn't surprise me at all.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Both sides do that. Yeah. That's like routine. And symbolism is very important, especially in the world, right? Bugs and clowns. Thanks for the $5. Hey guys, John, I've never heard you speak in Greek. I would love to hear it.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Thank you for all you do and have a great day. Thank you. I want to gorassau a disarmament in Athens. I love the Athena. Parapoli, Apote de Thessaloniki. But first of all, Veronica Delphi, thank you for the 99. Why Athens over Thessaloniki? Athens, since the first time I saw it, I fell in love with the place.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And it was kind of a shithole city in 1985 when I went the first time. And having come from Rome and having seen this job, gigantic difference between Rome, which was pristine, and Athens, which was covered from top to bottom with graffiti, I still fell over the place. Why over Thessaloniki? Only because of ease of travel. I absolutely love and adore Thessaloniki. It's one of the great cities of Europe. It's clean, it's friendly. There's a ton of stuff to do. The housing prices are a fraction of what Athens is, and Athens is one of the cheapest places to live in Europe. But Athens is just so full of life. There's so much action. It's a 24-hour city. It's a magnificent place for music and art and
Starting point is 00:30:46 food. And you're a hop, skip, and a jump from anywhere, whether it's by boat or by plane. I just love the place. And I want an apartment that has, I don't care if this apartment is 100 square feet. I want an in-your-face view of the Parthenon. And that's what I will have. Maybe you'll be the new U.S. Ambassador to Greece and then you will have such a view. D. Jick, thanks for the 99 cents. Sam Adams, thanks for the 499. So curious to ask John, in your executive briefings, how often would Chamber of Commerce business names be mentioned? Frequently. Yeah, frequently.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Yeah, I'm not sure if I should say more than that, but I will tell you that many, many times I've been down there at the Chamber of Commerce headquarters. CatQuest, 1999. Thank you so much. Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for what you do, and thank you for that. Dijic, thanks for the $1.99.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Additionally, John, did you like Obama before the prison stuff? I liked Obama for a minute. My ex and I went to the inauguration in January of 2009. And almost immediately, he announced a continuation of the Bush foreign policy. You know, he said the right things about withdrawing from Iraq. But the foreign policy was decidedly neoliberal. I mean, freaking Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State, when we've got some time. I'll tell you the whole Hillary Clinton
Starting point is 00:32:28 as Secretary of State story. Okay. But yeah, it's my support for Obama lasted a minute. Yeah, I was skeptical. I voted for Obama. I was highly Obama skeptical because he had run against
Starting point is 00:32:44 the Iraq War and then I checked his voting record in the Senate and he had voted six out of six times as a senator to fund the Iraq war. That's exactly right. And I was like, that guy's full of shit. But I also thought we really needed a first black president, and it was 250 years overdue. So I regret that vote, though.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I wouldn't have voted for McCain. But Deb's farm, thanks so much for the $20. Last week, John thought the government shutdown was over. Then the House came back with their own version. What do you think about this? Right. You know, we should have mentioned that on yesterday, on Monday, and we ran out of time feeling sorry for ourselves.
Starting point is 00:33:24 So, yeah. I mean, the conventional wisdom here in Washington was, okay, the Senate passed a budget for TSA. The House is just going to fall in line and then the president's going to sign it. And the Republicans in the House rejected it. I think everybody in Washington was surprised by this. And so Donald Trump moved some money around, sign an executive order, which I think he's actually not allowed to do because the money. hasn't been authorized. No, he's not allowed to do that.
Starting point is 00:33:58 He's not allowed to do it. You can't do it. But then what's going to happen? Somebody's going to sue him. It's going to take six months. By then, everybody's forgotten about it. And it's overtaken by events anyway. But isn't he going to regret this? Because now there's no pressure on the Democrats at all.
Starting point is 00:34:13 The long lines have vanished at the airports. The Democrats won. Sitting pretty. Yeah, the Democrats won on this. Yeah. Porsche, Porsche John, $5. Just bought my first house with my wife and just wanted to share the blessings with y'all. I think John's chances of a pardon are good.
Starting point is 00:34:30 It's the year of good things for guys named John. Let's hope so. Sparrow, thanks for the Australian $2. Saudi monarchy being an OSS-M-I-6 placement. I don't think so because the Saudi monarchy was a result of a civil war between the El Saoud family and the Rashid family that took place in the 1920s and 1930s. Um, OSS wasn't even a thing until the start of the Second World War and the CIA wasn't a thing until the passage of the National Security Act of 1947. So I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Besides, that was all seen as the British area of interest. APEC test dummy. Thanks for the dollar. How or who stated the term hate crime? John, I'm doing this from memory. But I think this started in the 1980s. I think it came out of the last. left, it came out of the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And the idea was that, you know, racial bias incidents should be punished more severely than, you know, like, if you kill someone because you want their money, it shouldn't be as serious as if you kill someone because you don't like the color of their skin. For the record, I fucking hate the idea of hate crimes as an idea. You know, if you kill someone, you've killed them. Why you killed them is, you know, part of the theory of the prosecution. But it shouldn't be, it shouldn't affect. the punishment in my opinion. Yeah. Ted. The term hate crime emerged in the United States in the mid-1980s,
Starting point is 00:36:00 coined by journalists, civil rights activists, and advocacy groups, especially the Anti-Defamation League of Benaborith. Which used to be a legitimate group. Which used to be a legitimate group with a lovely headquarters building. Yes. It was used in 1985 and 1986 to describe a surge in attacks against Asians, blacks, and Jews. Yeah, okay. So, hey, my memory's not failing you. No, you hit it on the head. Huxlecks, five bucks. Are you aware that the former Shah publicly soured on Israel before his ouster in 1979, possibly the reason for him being deposed? Well, it probably didn't help him to be, to stay in power, right? But I was aware of that.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Yeah. In fact, there had been an Israeli embassy in Tehran and it was downgraded to an Israeli embassy. interest section by the time the shot was overthrown. So it probably, do you think that the main effect there was that he had less access to intelligence cooperation with the Mossad and therefore knew less about what was going on? Yeah, I do. James Kelly, thanks for the five. Do you think the new law is because they're losing power, kind of like how the Nazis fast-tracked mass killing before they were overthrown. That's a good point. I haven't considered that. I think it's part of it. I think it's also like when a country is spinning, is going down the toilet and they just stop
Starting point is 00:37:29 caring what everyone else thinks. You know, they're so isolated. They have their heads so far up their own asses and they think like, we're all alone. We can't count on anyone. We have to do things our way. It's the logic of radicalization. I think it's a huge mistake from a Zionist point view. You know, the Zionist's biggest problem is that they're perceived as being like cruel maniacs. This isn't going to help. I have to agree. No, this is just going to piss people off. Trent's son, a member for three months. Guys, it's free content for us. Look at the views. All right. Thank you. Tabi, thanks for the 799 Australian. John, have you met with anyone with remote viewing ability? And can you confirm if it's real? And do you have any stories about it?
Starting point is 00:38:22 it um in in my experience it was not real it was something that what it is what is remote viewing uh it's being able to like move things with your mind or implant ideas in other people with your telekinesis yeah like telekinesis ESP the CIA very much wanted it to be a thing because they wanted to try to use it against the soviets but um but it never amounted to anything and they studied it for since like 1950 from 195 to 1975 which is part of mk ultra yes awesome i love that shit so weird um okay um okay uh okay uh okay more shed thanks for the five canadian dollars what do you think about Bangladesh's new government that is not pro India like the previous one Well, we see an influence war there between India and China.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yes. You know, interesting thing about the Bangladeshis. I've always been very interested in Bangladesh for a couple of reasons. Just as background, three quarters of the country is 10 feet above sea level or less. And so they have these awful typhoons almost every year and thousands of people get wiped up, wiped out. So why do they not go to higher ground? because there are among the world's most poisonous snakes and man-eating wolves that live in the higher ground.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Awesome. What country? Do you remember, like Bangladesh, like, I think this was about 30 years ago when they were kind of like, it was kind of identified as like ground zero for climate change. Yes. Because they're so low, they were all going to be flooded away. And at one point, there was even a scheme where Bangladesh's government was negotiating with both India and Pakistan to relocate their entire populations either to one or the other. And they were asking if it was India and Pakistan were both saying, we might be willing to take your whatever, 300 million people or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:40:38 But we want an extra vote at the UN so we can outvote the other one, Pakistan, but outvoting India or India, although I'm like there's 211 number of states. So, but do you remember that? It was like a bizarre, like episode. Yeah. I was kind of like, well, you guys are just lived there with the man eating wolves. I had a teacher, Mrs. Polino in 11th grade, world cultures. She had been a CIA officer, which I didn't know until I became one. And she told me she was a CIA officer.
Starting point is 00:41:10 She retired and went back to Newcastle, Pennsylvania and taught high school. But she used to say all the time. when we were studying the United Nations, that every country in the world gets one vote except the Soviet Union, which gets two. And that was true, because Ukraine SSR had its own vote as if it were its own country
Starting point is 00:41:31 for all those years. And nobody could ever explain why. What do you think? So do you think, you know, Bangladesh, which used to be East Pakistan, might have a rapprochement with Pakistan, thus altering the whole balance of power enough time has passed where they haven't been in each other's hair.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I mean, we're talking about 55 years now. So I wouldn't be surprised. Relations with India are good. Relations with Pakistan have become much better. And Bangladesh has weathered a lot of real political upheaval over the last 10 years with the operative word being weathered. I think that they're in a much stronger political position now than they were five years ago, 10 years ago, and maybe they can start calling some shots. Gringo, thanks for the five bucks. Hey, John and Ted, hope you're having a great day.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Wondering what you thought the best way to learn Arabic is, well, don't ask me, ask John. Also, what other languages are most prominent in the Middle East these days to learn? Yeah. Well, Arabic, of course, by far is the most important. It's the Linguo Franca. You can learn, it is, and you can learn any one of the, you know, 19 different dialects. Farsi might be useful. Farsi would most definitely be useful.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And Farsi is far, far easier to learn because it's an Indo-European language and Arabic is a Semitic language. You know, it used to be so hard. I made this recommendation just the other day. Somebody asked me. Rosetta Stone is outstanding. Duolingo is even better. You can do it on your phone. But what you really need for a language as difficult as Arabic is you need a human being with whom to converse.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And so think about the local community college. You know, you can take an Arabic class for a couple of hundred bucks and have a human being teaching you and a human being with whom you can have a conversation every time that you go. So take a look at Rosetta Stone, take a look at Duolingo. but check out the community college. Very cool. John, thanks for the, sorry, Super Telfa, thanks for the 1999. John, are you familiar with Wasfital of Jordan? Do you see another country having a leader like him,
Starting point is 00:43:57 who ordered his assassination? Was it the CIA or the king of Jordan? Ted, can I make an impact without a platform in the States? You know, Wasfital, that's a, Wasfital was the prime minister of Jordan. He died many, many years ago. It was like in the 60s or the 70s, to the best of my recollection. He was charismatic.
Starting point is 00:44:24 To tell you the truth, I always believed it was the Palestinians that killed him. There was this period from like 1968 to 1975 where the Palestinian, the left-wing Palestinian groups really believed that they could take Jordan. They could overthrow the king and take Jordan. Officially, it was Black September that killed Wasfital. It was Black September that was actually fighting on the steps of the palace to kill King Hussein, too. Literally on the steps of the palace. And I think it says a lot that he was buried in the royal cemetery, despite the
Starting point is 00:45:13 the fact that he wasn't royal. That's the level of respect that the royal family had for him. Can you make an impact without a platform in the States? Yes, just look at the Iranians and their AI Lego videos. They're making a massive impact in the United States. Yeah, with the Internet. Absolutely, you don't have to be here. Sir Sethley, 499, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Ted, you know Aaron McGruder? I used to. And can you convince him to come? come out of retirement. That I doubt. He's like the avatar when the world needed him most. He vanished. Aaron McGruder was the creator of the comic strip and TV show Boondocks. And in my opinion, he suffered from having too much success at too early a young age. He was launched in syndication in his mid-20s with hundreds of newspapers for most cartoonists. That's something that even back in the heyday of print media would take years to build up a list like that.
Starting point is 00:46:13 He got too much money, too much influence, too much power, things came too easy. And I think he burned out. And I don't know what he's up to nowadays. But Aaron, if you're watching, call. I'd love to catch up. Waterways, thanks for the $5. Hey, John, following up since another fan asked, any plans to join Stabros Halkius on his podcast, Stabby's World?
Starting point is 00:46:37 It may be a lot. I'd love it. I would love to do that. If you know him, please, please introduce us. Trip D, this is a follow-up to yesterday's bullshittery. Thanks for the 499. Ted and John, if someone has access to your phone contacts and can turn on and off things on your phone, then there's malware on it. Factory reset.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I can do that. Okay, thanks. Thanks for that. Put everything up in the cloud and just do a factory reset. Yeah, I do. By the way, your phone runs faster after you do that. Do you have to physically reload all of your. apps one at a time?
Starting point is 00:47:12 No. Yeah, no, they should just all come right back. Okay. If you have cloud storage, make sure you have a backup before you do that. I'm looking at Stavi, Halgias. He's right here in Baltimore. There's got to be a way to get in touch with him. I'll reach out.
Starting point is 00:47:32 The Dark Truth AI, thanks for the five pounds. Hi, guys, John, what do you think Greece and Albania? What do you think will Greece and Albania be a, second Israeli state, all these lunatics buying properties in both countries. You know, this is a thing. The Israelis are buying up Greek, Cypriot, and Albanian real estate faster than anybody else in the world. And I mentioned a couple times online, or not online on the show, I've been watching Athens
Starting point is 00:48:03 real estate for a long time because I've been thinking about buying for a long time. And the prices have doubled in less than 10 years. The prices have doubled since the start of COVID. And it's all because of Israeli, Russian, and Chinese real estate speculators. But the Israelis aren't buying it just for investment purposes. The Israelis are buying property just in case things turn to shit in Israel and they have to bug out. And that's especially true in Cyprus. They're buying vast tracts of land in Cyprus, not just apartments like they are in Athens.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Seek the truth. If we ever ran for president, which party would we run for and who would your VP? I really hate how the DNC screwed Bernie Sanders. In my opinion, is the reason why we are where we are. It's a big part of it. Well, obviously, I would not be able to run as a Republican. I couldn't run as a Democrat either. That's my problem.
Starting point is 00:49:05 You know what? I think that the I think that the libertarian party is not a true libertarian party. I think it's kind of a like a mainstream libertarian party. And I think that the libertarians and the Greens ought to join together. I'd be down for that. I would choose you as my veep. That way we would have total Gen X ticket. That would be fine.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Hey guys, will you ever have Medi Hassan on the show? Oh, absolutely. Why not? In fact, I've met him a number of times. I've been on his show, and I've got a friend who's very close to him. I could get his number. Robbie, make it so, please. Okay.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Thanks, Vilmar Nair for the five Canadian dollars. If universal taco happens, then what does it mean for GCC? Would Bahrain regime collapse in Iran just become richer and military power, more militarily powerful? The United States will never. ever permit the Bahraini government to collapse. Never. We're joined at the hip with the Bahrainis. Bahrain is the headquarters of the Fifth Fleet. And, you know, Admiral William Crowe, who used to be the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Bill Clinton, Admiral Crowe came out to Bahrain when I was there. He had been the commander of Centcom. So he lived in Bahrain for two years.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I was his control officer, so I spent the whole week with him. And I took his wife, carpet shopping and all kinds of stuff. That was a weird experience. I took a carpet shopping like all day and then I dropped her off at the ambassador's residence and I said, Mrs. Crow, I'm going to be back in two hours. I'm going to go home, take a shower, shave, put on my suit and come back for the dinner. So I go back. I go home. I shower, shave, get dressed. I go back to the ambassador's residence and I go in and she says, hello, I'm Shirley Crowe. And I said, yes ma'am. I'm John Kiriyaku, we spent the entire day today together and
Starting point is 00:51:10 I did your negotiating for the carpets that you bought. And she says, of course you did. And I was like, what the fuck just happened? I spent literally the entire day with her. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:51:26 Admiral Krause said, and this is a quote that every Bahraini knows and every Bahraini quotes and every American ambassador quotes, pound for pound, Bahrain is the best friend to the United States in the world. And the Bahrainis love that. And it's true pound for pound because Bahrain is the size and same population as Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Oounce for ounce. Yeah, ounce for ounce. So we will never, ever allow anything to happen to Bahrain to upset the apple card. I think also this kind of, this question kind of suggests that's where, you know, that Iran will suddenly become richer and more militarily powerful. The Iranians are more than overthrowing the Bahraini royal family. But in the long run, I think Iran's going to come out of this, you know, much better off. But they're going to have to go through some really dark times between now and then, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:22 basically fending off the Israelis and the Americans. That's right. We have a few ads here. Still haven't tried, 1775 coffee. Now is your shot. The 1775 starter get just dropped. Only 1,000 units. You're getting the bold, dark roast.
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Starting point is 00:53:01 This is for the ones who've been watching 1775 blow up on Rumble, wondering if it's actually worth it. Spoiler, it is. Go to 1775coffee.com slash studio and grab your starter kit before they're gone. Bold beads, clean fuel, and a morning routine that stands for something just like Rumble does. And I just ordered some 1775 coffee. So we will see if Robbie is right about all that. But I bet he is. So questions, left over question. What do we think about the cyber attack on striker by a supposedly Iranian-affiliated hacker group and what do you think about closed primaries as an independent in Kentucky. I can't vote in any primaries. I'm in Massey's district and would vote for him if I was able to. I'm on team closed primaries. I don't think Republicans should be
Starting point is 00:53:48 able to vote in a Democratic primary or vice versa, but I understand the problem. I'm also for closed primaries, but in Virginia, we don't have party registration. So you register as a voter. And then when you walk in to the voting building, building, whatever it's called, they say, you want a Democratic ballot or you want a Republican ballot? And so if the, for example, when Obama was running for re-election, what's the, what's the fun in just voting for an uncontested Obama? I said, give me the Republican ballot. And I could, you know, vote against the person I hate the most.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Well, you're kind of making my case for closed, our case for closed, closed primaries there. So let's, I do want to talk. Well, let's take this question. Al Resna, thanks for the five Canadian dollars. Did Reagan's campaign reach out to the Iranians asking them to hold hostages to bash Carter in exchange for a better deal, Iran? That's what Gary Sick said. Looks like it. Gary Sick was a Carter National Security Council.
Starting point is 00:55:00 senior director, he became a very important, very prominent professor at Columbia University. And Gary Sick coined the term October Surprise, and Gary Sick maintained that the Reagan campaign through Bob or Bill, rather, Bill Casey, who became CIA director. He was Reagan's campaign manager. He was in touch with the Iranians, asking the Iranians to not release the hostages until after the election. Which they were only an hour or two after Reagan. One hour.
Starting point is 00:55:36 As soon as Reagan put his hand in the air and took the oath of office, the hostages were released and were on a plane back home. It certainly looked like that. And then, of course, there's also that incident during 1968's campaign when Richard Nixon's campaign allegedly reached out to the North Vietnamese and said, hey, hang tight. Don't sign a peace deal with Johnson. You'll get a better deal from us, which, if true,
Starting point is 00:55:59 was not true to the North Koreans. Both cases would be treason, right? I mean, thanks for the $699, Andrew, much appreciated. D. Kik, thanks for the 199, is the mayor of New York's religion a problem in politics? Shouldn't be? I don't think so. Thanks for the high odds. Thanks for the 99.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Did you happen to see that the New York Post said that an influencer stripper on Instagram is getting overwhelming messages from young soldiers scared to deploy next week. Sad to see you. I can't even begin to tell you how many young soldiers have reached out to me over the last couple of weeks saying this is not what I signed up for. Actually, it is. I referred one guy to Quaker House in North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:56:48 They assist conscientious objectors. And we had a long conversation. I said, this is a tough decision. But you got to do what's in your heart. I agree with that. And let the cards fall. I have very little sympathy, though, John, because it's a fucking blank check.
Starting point is 00:57:05 When you sign up with the military, they can send you to any fucking stupid war they want and kill you any stupid way they want. Don't do it. Like, you know, not under this government. Spell I-Cup, thanks for the $1.99. Okay, so we're going to have to leave the questions that remain until tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:57:29 I promise you we will get to them early on the show tomorrow morning, and we're doing the Q&A show for the first time ever at 12 noon. Okay, so Ron DeSantis, John, I love this part. It's going to be Palm Beach International. It'll be Donald J. Trump International Airport, not Palm Beach anymore. And I love this part. Trump and his family have applied for trademarks that are pending for merchandise that will be sold to and about and for the airport,
Starting point is 00:58:01 clothing for pets and dogs, bags, watches, jewelry, umbrellas, tie clips, socks. I don't know about stakes, but along with airport lounges will also be licensed. So there's going to be massive grift going on here. Will this stay, like, after Trump, after the, after the, after the, after the, after the, after the, after Trumpism is no more. Will they just go back? Will they change the name back? Like a sports stadium?
Starting point is 00:58:34 Uh-oh. John is frozen. We will have to leave that there. The timing is perfect. If you have to be frozen, you might as well be frozen at the end of the show. Thanks, everyone for tuning in. Oh, John, there you are.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Hi, Isaiah. John Kiriaku here. Lucy tells me. Okay. I'm not leaving. I'm taking John out of there because he's on the phone. Please stay tuned.
Starting point is 00:58:57 we will be coming up with TMI show with Ted Roll and Manila Chan right now. John Curiacu and I will be back for D-Program tomorrow at 9 a.m. And at 12 noon tomorrow, so two hours of D-program. First hour is the regular show. Second hour at 12-noon is going to be Q&A. Thanks, everyone, and see you all tomorrow. Bye.

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