DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - Israeli Invaders Terrorize West Bank Families | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Episode Date: August 18, 2026

Conflict reporter/writer/cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM ET. Today we discuss:• The Palestinian-American whose home in the occupied West Bank has been besieged by Israeli settlers for over a week travels to his property to join family members who have been defending it. The standoff, in the village of Qusra, has seen groups of settlers surround several Palestinian houses and prevent residents from leaving. Israeli terrorists have killed 87 Palestinians this year.• Trump's approval rating falls to its lowest level ever, to 33%.Just 33% of respondents in the four-day survey said they approved of Trump's performance in the White House. 80% of Americans - including 87% of Democrats and 71% of Republicans - ​think U.S. involvement in Iran "will go on for an extended period of time," the Reuters/Ipsos poll found. Only one in five Americans - and half of Republicans - think the war has been worth it, the latest Reuters/Ipsos poll found. Voters prefer Democrats over Republicans as better stewards of the economy for the first time in about a decade. • Russia has accused the UK of “escalation” and threatened “consequences” following reports that British-made drones were used by Ukraine in long-range strikes in recent days. LIVE ON RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowhttps://x.com/tedrallhttps://x.com/JamarlThomas#tedrall #jamarlthomas #news #politics

I love that soundtrack. Me too. Me too. It is very important when you have a show. I think I had this with my radio show in L.A. Where to get jacked up, to hear like awesome music and you're like, you as the host need to get excited. I mean, I don't know how they do it on NPR. Well, they don't.

That's why they're not jacked up. It is Tuesday, August 18th, 2026, which means I have eight days left. as a 62-year-old. You are watching Deep Program with Ted Raul and Jamarle Thomas. Thanks very much for joining us. When is your birthday? The 26th of August. 1921st.

Yeah, we're both Virgoes, right? Yeah. And your I-N-T-J too, right? Like on Myers-Briggs. I think so, yeah. Thomas is the 25th. So all three of my three favorite dudes, like all right there together. Oh, seriously.

Oh, seriously? Oh, that's funny. Yeah, y'all need just all kind to just get together and just, no threesomes. No, no, no, no, no. So y'all cannot. Especially get threesomes. Like, no, no, no, no, no, reasons. Yeah.

No, listen, you don't think I'm, no, listen, you don't think I'm bad. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Thomas is much more militant with his Christianity than I am with mine, which, which is interesting. So, no, strip clubs. No. Wasted. I mean, no. Listen, take them out of drinks and dancing.

Oh, my God. That's one of the biggest arguments to me and Thomas have is it's like Christianity is all, but you have the choice. You know, you have agency and how is it you live. And that's where works kind of comes in. Thomas is like, no, we're going to go. We're going to go full prohibition. We're going to outlaw at all. He can always just not look.

Just go full Christian Sharia. I mean, just like a blend between the two. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But that kind of just relates the ability of someone to be able to make a choice. It says choose this day, not be compelled to choose this day. There's a difference. Be like, hey, Jamal, I want to go to the champagne room?

Sure. What's wild, though, I, I was never really into it. Yeah, I don't, I find them depressing. It merits me out. I mean, A, you can't touch. B, it's a fantasy. And to be honest, It's awkward. It's weird. It's weird. Like the idea of looking when in real society, you don't do that.

Right. It is weird. I have a friend. He's a Marxism professor of all things. And, you know, super intellectual. He's a, and this is pertinent. He's a black guy. He went to a strip club and basically fell in love with one of the strippers who's like as white, like almost translucent white. Long story short, they're married now. And it's they have kids. Really? Yeah. And she's great. She's super smart and like, yeah, they're both smart. It's great.

Well, pretty stripper doesn't mean that you're not. And I was like, you're living this crazy like 16 year old's dream. You like went to a strip club and like it came out with a wife. That's wild. You know what's funny. A friend of mine took me one, I think he took me from my birthday or something like that. And my thing was like, really? You go to these?

He was like, yeah, go to these. Jalil loved it. He thought they were great. When we got there, I didn't want to. It weirded me out. And in fact, I was, I don't think I was paranoid. I was just weirded out by the entire experience. And I remember this woman, Sparkle, she came and she was like, hey, would you like to go to the champagne room?

I was like, okay, because Sparkle was very attractive. Sparkle sounds attractive. Okay. Yeah, she sounds attractive, right? What is the champagne room? The champagne room is where you go for lap dance. No sex in the champagne room. But Sparkle, she was like, well, you brand asked for extra 20.

I was like, yeah, that's okay. I don't want to do that. I was already weirded out by the process. And when I walked out, the woman looked at me. She was like, are you okay? I was like, yeah, I'm okay. She was dramatic, man. It was weird.

For me, the last time I went to a strip club, which was decades ago, it was out of friend's behest. And he was in a bad place. And he's like, let's go to this. It's like, you know how like your friend's spinning out and you end up tagging along like a remora. and you know I remember being bored while he was getting lap dances and I was just counting the number of guys walking in and trying to figure out how much money was coming through the door and that part was fascinating I mean it's so much money it's tens of thousands of dollars in cash every single night you know in a matter of like an hour or two I mean they walk out they walked out like a thousand bucks a night yeah yeah that part's crazy for sure yeah but it's it's It's like drugs, right? It's effectively living off of endorphines and fantasy and illusion. Like, these women don't care about you.

They don't like you. Not even a little bit. I did go with, I had some girlfriends who were into that and they wanted to go. And that was kind of an interesting experience because a lot of the strippers are gay or at least buy. And like if you're a guy and you come in coupled, they tend to be a little bit, like the strippers tend to. to be a little friendlier to you. Like you're not the usual pig. Like you're, you know, some chick thought you were okay enough to like partner with. And also you must be cool enough to have a chick who would like go to a strip club with you. So they tend to be like much nicer

to you and like have genuine conversations. It's like literally like, oh, you're Uzbek. Oh, I've been to Tashkent. Where are you from? You know, and so like, you know, you can have this you can actually get a little bit of reality. And that makes it a lot less shitty. But, But it's never a good experience. I would not recommend. If you've never been to a strip club and you're thinking, oh, should I go? Like, not really. It sucks.

If you're a pig, enjoy it. Right. If you're a bit of a pit. If you're a regular person that thinks women are human beings. Right. And it's just depressing. I wonder, honestly, how many of those, how many of those women are foreigners being sex traffic through that crap? A lot of foreigners.

Most of the Americans. I mean, the ones, the one here was, they had. had heavy regulation at the one in Richmond. The one in New Orleans, see, I don't know. I mean, I went to the- New York has a lot of foreigners in general, so you have a lot of foreigners, yeah. Ah, I see.

I did go to one in, what is it called, in New Orleans. And I was sitting and talking to one of the, we're just talking, it was like, hey, how are you doing? I'm doing, okay, what are you doing? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She realized basically that it wasn't there for dance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a guy out from your free drive.

Oh, they, they, when you work that kind of job, you are able to suss out immediately, you know, what someone's good for and what they're not good for. Yeah, it's just well. But yeah, if you're a decent person, you don't, you might want to. Like, if you're a waiter, you definitely know, like, oh, that person's going to tip well, that person's going to be mean or whatever. When I was a, when I was a cabby, I could be, I could tell you picking up 45 people a night. Like, that, that lady is going to, you know, be going to the upper east side.

She'll tip 10%. That guy's going to the airport. He'll tip 22. Like, I just knew, you know. You know it in advance. Yeah. just know you're almost never wrong quick side question before we directly plunged you to the show because we started this off weird that's my fault the um well who bought a strip clubs i think i bought

strip clubs i think that might have been oh yeah because of the birthdays yeah yeah the birthday um uber and cabs does uber kill cabs yes yeah cabs have been in deep trouble for years um and uh and uber solves a non-existent problem right I mean, basically, taxis always existed. And people say, well, you know, I don't know, like I have trouble getting a cab or whatever. You can always have called. There are apps now where you can call a yellow cab. As a former taxi driver, I have to say the vetting process and the training process for like a New York City taxi driver, at least when I did it, was rigorous.

And, you know, there was a security check. You were, and you really had to learn New York City. you know, it was like the equivalent of the London taxi thing, the knowledge. You have to really know New York. Now, you know, they all have, I don't think you would really need it. Everybody's got GPS and who cares. But like at the time, you know, you need to know things like when you're driving on 13, on 11th Street in the East Village, there's a church and you can't go all the way through.

You know, so that kind of, you know, you need to know the 3rd Avenue is uptown, Lexington Avenue is downtown. You need to know things like that. And they're not allowed. France, right? I don't know. I don't know. I hope not. Because for my understanding, people were threatening taxis. They were beating a shit out of taxi drivers and what I'm over. Uber and Lyft. Yeah, oh, that's true. Uber and Lyft should have never been permitted. Um, it's, yeah, it's a, I mean, it's like Airbnb. It solves a non-existent problem. There are hotels, you know.

True, but there wasn't necessarily a mechanism to make it easy to get those caps or those hotels. That's there were in the, okay, so in the early 1980s, at least in New York City, um, They had radio cabs is what they were called. That was when I started. And so if you needed a taxi, you call a phone number, a central dispatcher, like found out where you, and they'd be like, you know, I have a guy Jamarle. He's at 47th and 7th Avenue. You know, are you free? Are you nearby?

It's like, yeah, I can take it. Okay. I'll be there in five minutes. And then they'd say, sir, your cab will be there in five minutes. And then that's it. Yeah, but the progression of that process, because maybe I don't want to call anybody, which I got to be honest, I don't. Right.

I mean, look, I get the problem. It was 1981. There was no other, there was nothing else, right? I know, but I guess I'm making the point that Uber and Lyft fill that gap, meaning it made that process easier. But it's kind of like tough shit. So you don't want to talk on the phone, tough shit. Call on the phone.

Because otherwise, literally tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of your fellow Americans are going out of work. And you're creating, I guarantee you a lot more women get raped by Uber drivers than get raped by yellow taxi drivers. Oh, I don't, I don't have that more. They're connected to a particular thing. There's just slubs. There's just normal people.

But just be very clear. It's not creating a problem that didn't exist. The problem that existed was the interoperability. The product that they're selling is not the cab. The product that they're selling is the application. True. Two different things. Yeah, people and people love also the mystery like where the fuck is my cab, you know,

because you can see where your cab is. Yeah. You can see the amount of time it takes, the amount of costs. I don't have to deal with the driver. I don't have to exchange cash. I don't have to do any of these things. And when I'm abroad, I live on those apps. Yeah, I mean, look, I use them too. I'm just saying that like they, you know, because that's the real world.

But they definitely, the world has become a worse place in general because of companies like that. Self-driving cars are going to kill all of it. So doesn't matter. True. I mean, that's where this is going. If the US government does not. stop it, which they 100% do. It's not, look, the issue is not technological.

Listen, you can, the issue is not technological. The issue is policy. It's social. You cannot put, you cannot put millions of Americans out of work and have a stable country. You cannot do that. If you want to have a stable country, you can't, you cannot put out. But you also, I mean, you're right, right.

But you also need to be technologically an in a, you are not stopping the technological progression. I would imagine a lot of cab drive or a lot of horse and buggy drivers wanted the car not to come into fruition also. They just didn't have the lobby in order to prevent it. There's a false equivalence. There's a false equivalence. You're never going to stop it. Back then. The technological progression will happen.

The catch becomes what does your government and society do in order to accommodate the technological progression? It's that. It's not, hey, we need to stop, I don't know, the internet from coming to fruition because it's going to put people out of work. We need to stop AI from coming out of work. You're never going to do it. The problem with creative destruction is if you have creation, then all you have is the destruction. That's the issue. Back in the early 20th century, the Wayne writes and stuff, they were able to go get a job in a factory. There was something else they're able to do. There's another job in another industry that could do. That does not exist nowadays. You're destroying an entire industry, putting millions of people out of work with nothing for them to do. That's how you get chaos. That's the last thing that you ever want.

I mean, it's true. Taxi driving was a profession when I got into it in 1981. And, you know, the typical night in New York City was you'd make about $3 or $400, cash, tax-free, in 1981. By the time I quit in 1990, I was lucky to make $60 a night. And that's hustling. And by the way, it's also more dangerous. If you're underpaying taxi drivers, they're cutting each other off in traffic. They're cutting off other motorists to try to get fin.

So it's you know, people literally die as a result. But I, you guys are both right. I mean, you know, like the, you know, if you throw everybody out of work and you just don't give a shit about them, obviously you're going to destroy society. But it's also true that like, you know, horse and buggies aren't coming back. And, you know, I mean, that's true too. I do think we were in a better world with horse and buggies. You know, no suburban sprawl, you know, lively cities, less pollution.

Time always goes on. Time does go on. It's not going to stop. Like, it's a fool's earned to try to do so. All right, let's see if there's any comments here that are related to this. Go ahead. It's not a QA. Oh, yeah.

Peter Ive, oh, this is funny. Thanks for this comment. Craig Murray, former British ambassador and friend of Julian Assange, also the author of a book called Murder in Samarkand, met his wife dancing in a strip club in Samarkand. We should get Craig Murray if he's still around because he's as funny as shit. Is it? Yeah, and he's really brilliant too.

And his book is fantastic. Yeah, so he was the big, he was the guy who basically became a whistleblower about how the Bush administration was cowtowing to basically authoritarian dictatorships in Central Asia like that of Islam Karimov in Uzbekistan who liked, who was fond of boiling prisoners to death. in a vet. I ran a photo of this to really show how pissed off I was in one of my books. Silk Road to Ruin, I would recommend not looking at that book before breakfast. Wait, I had the picture of him boiling a guy a lot? Of the boiled corpse afterwards, yeah. So, I mean, it's a real thing. I got the photo from the family. So it's a true.

What did that look like? kind of like a chicken breast that had been overcooked where all the skin is peeled off and bright bright bright bright red no they didn't eat them as far as I know no they didn't eat them they just slowly that was his stick Islam Karima he used to hang you know radical Islamists enemies of the state

from lamp posts in Tashkan and right on the main boulevard until the meat was falling off their bones and the carrion birds were picking away at what was left on the sidewalk. I saw it. I have photos if you're ever in the mood to wretch. I'm not overly shocked that people do it.

I'm really shocked that people do it for them because he didn't do it. It's not like he himself. No, that's true. He probably never killed anyone. Yeah. That's always wild to me. It's like, yeah, I'm a goon, so I'm going to do this. I guess you hire psychopaths. I don't know.

Yeah, you do. Yeah, or people who just want the money and just don't care. Well, that's a psychopath. Okay, thanks for the dollar sir bikes a lot. The cabs won't show up. Uber and Lyft did. Trust me, I've had Uber's and Lyfts not show up too. And haven't you ever had your ride canceled, like right as you're expecting it?

Where they say their own? Yeah. Well, you're the only other person here, right? I mean. Yes. I've had Uber's canceled at the last minute to, a pain in my ass. And it wasn't an Uber. It was in Europe. I think it was called. They have a different thing. But yeah, yeah, of course. It's like. Yeah, it happens. Okay, all right. So we've got

stuff to talk about here. We don't have to do this in any particular order. Russia is pissed at the at the Brits for providing the UKIs with British-made drones that are being used by Ukraine to blow up stuff far from the from the battlefront way deep into Russia. Trump's approval rating has hit a record low once again. Now it's a 33%. I don't know if we're going to find the floor. And then our lead story, which is this siege in the Israeli-occupied West Bank by Jewish terrorists who are surrounding this Palestinian home that is actually owned by a Palestinian American from Ohio. And basically he flew to join his family to try to protect his house from the the settlers, the terrorists, and the IDF.

It's a lot to talk about. Where do you want to start? Okay, let's start at the end, the lead story. Okay. All right. So, yeah, so this is accompanying in Kusra in the Occupied West Bank. This has been a lead story around the world. The world's attention has fallen on this.

So basically, the international press is covering this. in a way that they don't normally do it. I guess it's the brazenness of it and it's also the prolonged aspect. Basically, this Palestinian, this normal family, they're holed up inside their house. These radical Jewish terrorists are outside the house trying to kick them out. There's been numerous exchanges of gunfire between both sides. Everybody's paying attention.

Even Mike Huckabee, the U.S. ambassador to Israel, has been felt compelled to say that, that this is a bad thing. These also been statements by the UN saying it needs to end. There's lots of footage of the IDF. You know, they're supposed to be keeping these, you know,

preventing this from happening. But they're basically kind of like in Charlottesville during the United the Right rally where the cops were sort of hobnobbing with the right wingers. And that's kind of like what's happening here where the IDF guys are hobnobbing with, well, their fellow Israelis.

And they're, you know, the Palestinians have good reason to believe that they're really, you know, maybe these guys aren't really, you know, fair arbiters and trying to keep the peace here. So it's a problem. Why do you think this particular, I mean, this is one of many incidents. The Israeli settlers have killed at least 87 Palestinians this year in the West Bank. Why are, why, I mean, I'm glad we're finally paying attention to this, but why? Why? Why? this incident. I have no idea. I legit, I have no idea. Like, like they call them Jewish radical

terrorists. They're just Israelis. These things are synonymous. These people are monsters. They're animals. And you're talking about baby killers who get off on baby killing and touch themselves to doing so. I mean, these people are monsters. And the IF always, as a flat fact, always stands there to protect the Israelis as they go about murder and steal Palestinian homes in the West Bank. I have no idea why this is a story, to be honest. The UN can say whatever they want, rat in a cage. That's assuming they actually, actually care about it. And from the standpoint of Huckabee, I don't believe Huckabee cares about it.

I think Huckabee just had to make a comment just because it was an American. That for all its purposes, Huckabee ultimately doesn't care. I don't think, like, meaning the fact that people are like, oh, that's bad. okay, if you think that's bad, do something about it. Your strongly worded letter doesn't matter to a country of squatters that has murdered hundreds of thousands. Like I don't know why this is a story, to be honest. This is a Tuesday in Israel, like a literal Tuesday. This happens every day. I've spoken to people. One guy I spoke at the radio station, he had just been beaten nearly to the brink of death by Israelis as the IDF overstood.

ensuring that there will be no response to the fact that they're nearly killing you. Not to mention they stole property from them. I'm saying this is, and that was, what, two years ago that I had that conversation? This is just normal. It is, but I mean, but somehow this one, you know, but some, every now and then, there's an incident in news where there's an ongoing crisis, an ongoing phenomenon. And then suddenly there's some event that for some reason captures the world's imagination. And suddenly people start to focus.

Like somehow it's tasty for the media. And they're like, But I don't get why, though. Like, I don't know what makes it. I think it's the siege aspect. It's like the idea that there's a family with like, I mean, the press loves sieges, right? Ruby Ridge, Waco. It's like people are holed up inside in their castle.

And then other people are trying to get in to kill them or at least throw them out and steal their house. that's somehow, that's a compelling narrative. It's baby Jessica down a well. It's a thing that like the media likes. If the settlers burn down the house, would anybody care? I mean, we would. Yeah, you and I would. Yeah, many people would care.

Yeah, but I guess I'm trying to say, does I care translate into action? And up to this point, the answer has been no. I don't know why. Maybe it is the siege. Maybe it's partially the siege. Maybe it's because he's part American and he flew from Ohio in order to do in its location, meaning if you kill him, you're killing an American. Yeah.

And you're doing it and you're doing it with the eyes of the world on you. The part that's striking to me, I mean, okay, this is like, I know I'm being like a, like a naive bunny here. But the part that's really naive that's like crazy is like these settlers, they're on international television, right? Like everyone can see them. It's like, so it's kind of like, here. be goons, here be thugs, here be thieves, here be terrorists, villains. And they're like,

yeah, sitting out there smoking and shooting the shit with the with the soldiers who are also kind of like, here be impotent soldiers, here be soldiers who are not doing their job. You know, and then there's, again, then there's Netanyahu who's like, he knows, he knows all this. And his, and no one from his staff is saying on the phone saying like on the you know on the line to the IDF office that happens to be nearest to Cusra and saying hey cut the shit tell those assholes to leave like we look I'm I'm looking I got Trump up my ass stop it like there's I mean the fact that like it's the impunity it's the fact that they don't care obviously they're so brazen and they're so used to this and they know and they

obviously feel like nothing is going to happen to them and that they will probably succeed and get what they want. That's the part that to me it's not it's like not even like yeah we should go away and come back later in the night like three months from now when no one's paying attention. It's like no no we'll stay right here and we'll just do this. It's honest. I remember that yahu's the moderate here. He's the moderate. Right. Yeah. And by the way, IDF are doing their job. Yeah, by definition. There is really soldiers. Yeah. The only only. everything you then yahoo's ass is Trump's mouth. I mean, like, none of this, like the IDF is doing their job. They're protecting the settlers as the settlers go about robbing, pillaging, stealing,

killing, creating mayhem, etc. Like, I get your point. It's the brazeness of it all. But they have openly committed a genocide. There is, like, this is literally a bar up from the mass murder that they did on air. Well, the thing about the genocide is, I mean, as you and I both know from reading socials. The Hasbara people are busy saying, but it's not a genocide. Don't believe your lying eyes. Yeah, but we can see it. And the assessment. But here they're not even saying, there's not even any spin. There's not even any Haspara people saying, oh, you know, actually that house doesn't really belong to them. It's actually an Israeli house that the Palestinians. You know what I mean? Like there's no propaganda here. There's just like, like, there's no,

I mean, obviously the Hasbara people know that this is, that the, that, that, the, that, that, The genocide is a bad look and that Israel is getting beaten up in international public opinion. And but they, so they fight it and they spin it and they bullshit a lot. Here, there's no attempt to do that. That's the part that I find interesting. Well, remember, Israel's killed Americans already and has never paid a price. So that reporter that they've killed, I can't think of her name right now. They shot her in the face on live TV, killed her.

She was a blonde lady from 20 years ago, right? the one who was bulldozed to death. Yeah, there was her. Last year, there was... He's talked about the reporter, the one that had the press... Oh, yeah, who was... She was snipered, yeah. Yeah, she shot in the base.

And then there was a Palestinian guy. I think it was maybe... It may have just been him, maybe him and his brother earlier this year. They got killed in the West Bank. Listen, no one cares about Americans getting killed by Israelis. Because you know why no one cares? It's because they're not considered really... Americans to begin with.

That's why. Yeah. Even if they were a full bloodied American, would it have mattered? Well, I don't know. Because there was a funny story that my grandfather told me back when he first joined the army, he met this old timer from the Banana Wars. They're in Dicaragua. And when the rebels were there, there was this American, they wrapped himself in an

American flag and said, shoot if you dare. And the rebels, they didn't dare shoot because they would happen with the American Army found out. The Israelis don't care about the American flag. They own us. I mean, the U.S.S. Liberty, all those people were basically killed with the military hiding the crime. They were murdered. And then the military put them under a dag order, said, if you speak about this, we'll put you in prison.

Yep. Well, to put a fine point on it, though, there are two things going on. First of all, what you guys are saying implicitly and explicitly, which is that the Israelis don't need to worry because they know they're protected by the U.S. government. But there's also a cultural thing about Israelis, where they just generally are rude assholes who don't give a shit about what other people think about them. If you're got chosen people, why do you have to be polite to the going? See, I don't think, I don't know if that's entirely true. But it's not a Jewish thing. It's an Israeli thing, right? Like if you, like, if you meet American Jews or Belgian Jews or Australian Jews,

they ain't like that. They ain't like that. It depends on they're religious or not. I've met people from Israel and had long conversations with them. They do give a shit about what Americans think. They do. I was having a conversation with somebody else not even dealing with them, meaning they weren't even in the conversation. I was in Nepal. And I was telling them, yeah, I've been to Palestine and I've been this place and that

place. And from the corner of my eye, I see two Israelis walk all the way across the street in order to have a conversation about the fact that I mentioned the term Palestine. They give a shit there. They may act like it, but they care. I do not know if the two of you ever once, probably not because neither one of y'all are religious, have ever tried to witness to a religious Jew. They are the rudest, meanest, meanest people that I've ever tried to try to give in the gospel to.

Thank you, for one thing, well, for one thing, if you knock on the door, some white dude shows up. I don't ask you to witness to me. I'm not going to be receptive to it. And that will be a dick to you. Listen, I get that. And that's part of it. But I mean, as evangelical, it's come what you do. It's actually part of the great commission.

Go tell every creature about Jesus Christ. So you go there and you knock on the doors. Hey, do you have a moment? Like to just talk to you for a little bit. And this person just went completely off. So Noah said, we are the chosen people. We are allied into the nations. I mean, just gave me the full spill.

Said, you're lucky. You ought to follow the 10 Noah High laws. And you'll be able to be. You'll be privileged to be our servant in the world to come. That's what they told you for real. Yeah. Read the Talwood. It's there.

Yeah, but they might have also just been. I mean, you know, like, there's a difference between someone who believes it and someone who talks it. I mean, people talk shit also, like, when they're being approached by someone who's trying to evangelize them. I mean, like, I used to get, like, buzzed at like 7 o'clock in the morning when I lived on the Upper West Side by, what do they call it? seven-day Adventists sort of it.

And like they'd be buzzing, right? And so it and I was kind of like, Robbie, I don't know if this will help you in your mission. But it was like, I'm actually would have been nicer if they'd like buzzed at 11 a.m. But it's like seven in the morning on a Saturday. And my one day I get to sleep in late and you're fucking waking me up. Like, fuck you. So I like, you know, so I'd be like, after a while I sort of took like, oh no, this is a Satanist household. You know, we're up here boiling babies.

We're into the horned one, you know, like D, like S-A-T-A-N. He's number one. And they would be like, you know, you can see them through the intercom totally appalled. But like, I mean, obviously I was just talking shit to them. I knew somebody who opened the door completely naked and said, come on in. I did that to my in-laws. Did you? Oh, so my in-laws would never call.

They lived two and a half hours away from me. They would never call. And I'd be like, I would tell my wife, can't you just fucking tell them to call like, like before they get in the car? Right. You know, but you're coming. Right. Yeah. Just like, hey, we're going to be down.

And I will clear my schedule. And like, you know, but it's two and a half hours. You know, they don't have to call like the day before because I know that's asking too much of them. But like before you get in the car, they just couldn't do it. So one day, I was having. sex with my wife and they were at the door. And I just... You're having sex with their daughter. I was having sex with their daughter and it was in flagranti delicto. So I was like, Coitus Interruptus and I just went up through the door open,

my penis glistening. And I'm like, hey, what's up? They always called from that point on. Good. And for the record, no, whenever me and Kizzy are out, you know, inviting people to church. We always do it after 10 a.m. So we are not. That's wise. So we are not. Well, thank you for that.

Because we used that at Jehovah Williams to do that at 7 in the morning on Saturday. I think evangelical shit is crazy. Evangelical shit is hard. I mean, honestly, I wouldn't want to have to do it. It's like going up to someone's door and telling them, hey, by the way, your religion sucks. You should try mine. It's like, oh, scary.

This is hard. Yeah. It's hard. I would think. And I'm not a people person. So I'm still harder as who. But here we are. Wait, so you do it.

You still go to houses? Oh, yeah. The fourth Sunday of every month during the summertime. I think if you live in Montana, you've probably got to be pretty, in Montana, you've probably got to be used to that, though. We have a, well, you remember, we have a lot of people who are moving in from out of state. So, I mean, there's, I mean, there's a lot of people from California in other places. So, I mean, you never quite know what you're going to get.

There are so many Jesus signs all over Montana when you're out. There's a lot of new houses that have gone up. Like ever since, since you were here last year, Ted, we've had like five new subdivisions have gone up. I mean, it's insane. Crazy. Oh. The justification here is very, very real.

Yeah, that's hard. That's hard. I mean, not to do in any random door for any random reason. It's hard. But at least to my point of view. Um, all right. So I guess, um, What do you think, what do we, God, I mean, if this ends in bloodshed,

here's the thing, if it doesn't end in bloodshed, it's going to end in bloodshed later, right? Like, they'll come back later for these people. You can't ultimately. Now, I think they're going to finish what they're trying to do. I mean, it's horrible as it sounds. It does sound, yeah. They are killers. They're murderers.

I mean, look at what they did to the doctor who was at the hospital. They captured him, put him in a torture cell. The man is emaciated from this point of view. I don't even think they still released them. And his main crime was he stayed to try to protect his patients. That's what they're doing to a doctor protecting patients, effectively mamas, babies, etc. Other people who are effectively ill or who were injured by Israeli strikes. Okay, this guy, I mean, like, I got to hope I'm wrong.

I hope I'm wrong. Yeah. Okay, well, we'll continue to follow the story, of course. All right, so Trump? Approval rating. Approval rating. Or in this case, I think at this point we have to call it a disapproval rating. 33%.

The only presidents who's had numbers that are comparable to this in the history of modern polling was Richard Nixon about a week before his resignation in the summer of 1974. for. 80% of Americans say that U.S. involvement in Iran will probably continue on for a extended period of time. I don't know who the 20% are who don't think that's true. That includes 87% of Democrats and 71% of Republicans. Only one out of five people in the United States overall think that the war has been

worthwhile. That includes half of Republicans. I don't really know eight Republicans who think it's worth. worthwhile. Put something in the chat and let me know. What you said 20% thinks is worthwhile? One in five think, yeah, 20% thinks it's worthwhile. What these people? I want to know who the two, yeah, and I want to know who are the half of Republicans are who think it's been worthwhile.

Like, what exactly have we gotten out of this? I mean, you know, Trump just said yesterday, and he keeps saying on socials, the number one goal is to prevent in Iran from having a nuclear weapon. A, they didn't want a nuclear weapon. B, it's like, I thought you're number one. goal was to make life as good as possible for the majority of the American people, right? Is not your number one goal? Or it should be.

Anyway, so, and I guess this is the biggest news. The Republicans are always leading on immigration and their stewardship of the economy. That is a historical truth. It's always been, I mean, it's ridiculous the economic thing, considering that the economy is generally better under Democrats, but people think that. This poll is so bad for the Republicans that that's no longer true. Trump has even lost his lead on immigration, which that's his signature issue. Wow.

So now they're based Democrats and Republicans are even on immigration. How bad do you have to be to lose your lead on your signature issue? Yeah. That was his, you know, that's his thing, right? If you're Burger King selling hamburgers, his immigration. Yeah, if people don't like your don't like woppers anymore, that's a problem. It's a problem, right? It's like, we no longer like your hamburgers.

Well, this is all we got. Yeah, that's wild. I mean, Donald Trump was ahead of by like 30 points on immigration. That's a stunning swing. And the same thing with the economy. And if I'm not mistaken, I think there was like a 54 point drop from the standpoint of Hispanics towards Trump. Hispanics was his X factor. Right, which was also, I mean, I guess it's like one mistake that a lot of analysts and particularly

Democrats always made was thinking that Latino Americans who live here now or have been here have sympathy for Latinos who want to come. And I guess they just generally don't. But that, you know, like you're in the treehouse, you pull the ladder up after you. I've known people who were the son and daughter of immigrants. Democrats are making a bad rationale for that. Yeah, it's just not true. Maybe it should be true, but it isn't true.

Yeah. Right. You would think it's true because you would think, well, you got in. You may want other people to go. It doesn't work that way. No, it doesn't. And Sir G. G.ang even made that argument.

Like, you know, he was, I think he was in Canada. He was like, yeah, pulling up the ladder. Right? Like, we don't need, we don't need the change. I got mine. Yeah, I'm here. I'm here because I like it. I don't want to change the character of it about bringing in the video.

How do you lose? How does Trump lose immigration? I mean, by the way, this is despite, it's not like he's given up on immigration. I mean, he's still, ICE is still running around killing people just the way he likes. I mean, he just killed someone in Maine, I think it was. And that's, by the way, a pretty horrific event. But anyway, Robbie, go. Trump lost me on immigration.

Me. think about that for a second i mean that is true wild i don't know i mean there's a right way and wrong there's a there's a there's a wrong way to do the right thing and that's what he's doing because if you're concerned about civil liberties like what i am then you can't violate the constitution in order to enforce immigration law otherwise you don't the problem that most that a lot Republicans had is the optics of the way that ICE is treating people

or is it the fact that he's focused, there's no distinction between like criminal pedophile migrants and like, you know, hardworking people who've been here 25 years just working. Well, I mean, a little bit of both. I mean, with me, because Trump backpedaled, no, he used to be like to get them all out.

He used to have the robbery position. And I was just like, well, if you're working on a farm and you're doing all this, do all this work that Americans won't do. You can go ahead and stay. Okay, so if that's the Republican talking point that you're going to take, then at least him to the prison. She's not been doing that.

Instead, he's violating the Fourth Amendment. He's already, he's already come out on the record saying that due process is for suckers. She's not going to do that. You, you ignore due process first and then you do it after. Sorry, that's not due process. And so if you, if you say that you are, that you care, about the Constitution, then you can't pull it Abraham Lincoln and violate the Constitution in order

to save it. It's a binary choice. Either you do what it says or you don't. And if you violate it. Robbie, people just want to be able to do what they feel like doing. Why does that even mean? I was just reading, I was just reading something about Thomas Jefferson and his fight with Hamilton early on in the first days of the Republic of the Constitution. And they were fighting about, you know, that sort of thing, about the creation of a national bank. right and and and it was like Jefferson was like well that's not a power in the Constitution that Congress is allowed to do and Hamilton's like but we want to yeah and for bad cookies I just want to point that I just want to say to

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It's on YouTube, speaking of which. It covers a lot of what's been happening there. All right. Thanks for that, heads up. Okay, let's talk about Trump before we move on to the drone situation in Russia. Okay, so, you know, you can't really rule without the tacit consent of the government in any system, whether it's a democracy or an autocracy. Right. So the nature of our system is kind of not that.

important when it comes to this count how long I mean I guess two questions Jamal we haven't found the floor yet of Trump's approval rating where do you think it is are we gonna find that floor and and and what do you know you want to pick a number we should put this up as a bet somewhere like yeah yeah yeah yeah predictive markets yeah predictive market right right no I don't think Trump has found the floor I think there is a certain number of Republicans that Donald Trump could, I don't know, shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. Yeah, kills somebody on Fifth Avenue, take a dump on the Constitution in the, you know,

in front of the cameras and go in and they'd be like, wow, look at Trump. That was an awesome powerful shit that Donald Trump just made on the Constitution. He could fuck a porn star and cheat on his wife. Yeah. He'd be great, right? They would still accept him and it would still be okay with him because it's not about, I don't know, it's like tribal. It's like here's the alpha gorilla that can ensure that all of us gets nuts, you know, maybe or maybe not.

But that's the way they look at him, this kind of strong man thing. I think from their point of view, it doesn't matter what he does. They're in it for the personality. Yeah, I mean, there's a floor and it's not zero. Right. Well, I think it's 25% if I had to guess. I was going to say 27. I think we're.

Or 27. Yeah. Those, they float within the same milieu. If anything, in the polling, I think if I had. guess it hit 28%. I would say I agree with that. Now the question is can you rule as president of the United States? No one else ever has. I mean the last time someone tried to rule with numbers like that, they ruled that way for about a about a week. Yeah, but the Nixie was a little bit different and we were in a different time with Nixon. I mean, for one, the presidency had credibility and had stature. It was

taken seriously. Okay, Trump is a fool. And you can make an argument that there's been buffoonery, either with Trump, Joe Biden. I would say Obama was a manager of empire better, or at the very least he was more competent at it. But I guess my point is the last few presidents we had were just fundamentally incompetent.

One was basically dying before our eyes, almost like a weekend at Bernie's thing, where there were questions about whether he was the one who was even making. Ridiculous. Yeah. was absurd, right? With everybody pretending that he is okay, that the president is competent and intact when the president is wandering off and needs to be brought back by other foreign leaders.

It's absurd, right? And the new president is not only radically corrupt where he's monetizing the presidency in the open, meaning it's not even secret, right? That he is seemingly working at the behest of a foreign government or at the very least many people believe he is and is taking the United States to utter ruin. And you could say it was on that route anyway, but law. knows he's expedited the process can he rule without power i think the american public is so i'm not going to use the term euthanized but so out of sorts and so out of it but the answer is yes i don't think trump is resigning he's not going anywhere and for all intentsy purposes the republican party is going to continue to back him as he tanks the country

to answer a question answers yes a president can rule a public that is what's the word it's not euthanize it's um anesthetized just fine without the public being involved because the public is not involved as we speak let's talk about ruin um you know well wait you agree with that i want i do agree with that and i think i think there's other factors that have changed right i mean first of all just consider like the ideology of the democratic party in 1974 compared to today right i mean um today's democratic party is far to the right of where the Republican Party was in 1974. There, they're, there, and the streets of American cities in the 70, in the early 70s,

were full of protesters. And there was a, not only a real left, I mean, hell, there were even radical leftist terrorists who were assassinating police officers and holding up banks and stuff. We don't have anything like that now. And so there, so I mean, I just think, and also, So the media is gutted, right? So people don't really have access to good information, or if they do, they don't have the centering to be able to appreciate it or recognize it when it happens or identify what matters. But we should talk about ruin, right? Like, what does ruin look like? I mean, I don't think, you know, the Dow at $53,000 and gas at $4 a gallon, as we have now is ruin for most people.

But if the Dow falls off a cliff and suddenly it's $32,000 and let's say gas is suddenly $8 a gallon, that's going to feel more like ruin to people. Yeah, but what does it take for people? I mean, the president recently came out and said if Iran and Oman they can deal, they're going to blow the shit out of Oman. Imagine a president of the United States back in the 70s dropping the F bomb. or dropping, you know, saying shit or whatever else. It's impossible. It's impossible to imagine.

That's ruined, from my point of view. Like, that's a degradation of the country in real material ways that can be seen through the lens of the president. I mean, there used to be a saying that the, as goes the king, goes the country, meaning the health and wellness of the king is indicative of the country. I think that's true on some level. Look at our kings. Like, these people are incompetent.

I would be shocked if Donald Trump could read a nursery book. let alone read policy paper. He does read from a teleprompter. Does he? Not well. He doesn't do it well and he doesn't do it long. And he can't stick to it. He is incompetent.

Joe Biden was incompetent and Obama was competent if not a psychopath. And I think when you're looking at what is taking place with the country now, what law allows the U.S. military to go murder fishermen in the Caribbean? None. None. I mean, I think it's fair to say, Jamaral, that, like, if you compare, like, to this world when I was, like, 10 or 11 years old, right, that every single day, today, there is a story that would bring down a president by itself every day.

I mean, the story about the Ecuadorian fisherman that broke over the weekend by itself would have destroyed, say, a Gerald Ford. you know, the, you know, by itself, you know, saying, I'm going to drop, I'm going to bomb the shit out of anyone, even Iran, but a U.S. ally? Oman is a U.S. ally. I mean, you know, that's like literally the same as saying, I'm going to bomb the shit out of France. Yeah. It's like, again, that would have been the end of you. That would have been the end of the end of LBJ. He could get away with destroying Vietnam, but he couldn't get away with something like that, even though they all cursed in private. They knew not to do that in public, yeah. I have a question for both of you.

After Trump made that, made that threat, why would Oman still be a U.S. ally? I wouldn't. They're scared. They're scared. Of what? Iran's defeated us. You think what? You think Oman can defeat the U.S.? Or that Oman wants to Oman? What's Oman supposed, yeah, you have to put, yeah, okay, so you're there that room with a bunch of guys and dishdashas, right? What's the discussion? Like, okay, the first thing is like, you know they walk in and they're like, fuck Donald Trump and fuck the Americans. Okay, okay.

And then someone says, okay, guys, I agree with you. But what are we going to, what are we going to? What can we do? Then what should we do? Work closer with the Iranians because Iran is right there across the straight. They have defeated the United States military, the paper tiger. my patron in D.C. at behest of Netanyahu just threatened to bomb me. So at what point do I have to pretend like that?

I'm your friend. It's kind of like, it's the same mistake that Thomas Massey made. Thomas Massey played footsies with Trump after Trump went after his dead wife and attacked his character. He just effectively did that with Oman. So at that point, if someone says, I respect you so little that I have just threatened to to blow you up. At that point, what obligation do I have to pretend that I'm your friend or vice versa?

And I could then reach across the table to Iran and say, let's make, let's make common cause. We will help you sell your oil. We will help you get around these sanctions. We'll be the economic hub that you need. You help us against the Americans. And there's nothing Trump could do about it. Okay, Rob, you mentioned, you mentioned the point here. we will help you avoid the sanctions.

Okay, so Oman then has to decide, oh, do we want to leave, like, the community of nations, as they call themselves, and join the axis of evil, as Bush used to call it? Do we want to join bricks? Do we want to now get in bed with the Ruski's and the Chinese and the Iranians? And, like, we don't know what that looks like. We don't know how that feels like, and they're not going to really trust us because we've been on Team USA all these years. And so, you know, these are small seed conservative people by nature. They're scaredy cats.

And they don't want, and, you know, look, they don't want muskot to be bombed. Nobody would. But that's the point. But the point is they would have to, if they broke away and joined Iran in the way that you described, yeah. I mean, the Americans are going to bomb them. And a lot of their people are going to die. And their beautiful capital city is going to be leveled.

I mean, so yeah, they're scared. I mean, I'm not saying that you're wrong that they should do, though. I'm just saying that's why they're not doing. No, you know what, Ted, being a free people is a scary thing. There is a safety and a security in being a slave. There really is. Look, I agree with... Being independent is a very hard, scary thing.

Charles de Gaulle when he was arguing with Philippe Petin in 1940, and France was falling. And he tried to convince Petin to flee and form a government in exile and, you know, we'll fight another day. Or they were thinking about having what they called the Brittany readout where basically they would try to like hole up on the Breton Peninsula and fight back and try to regain metropolitan France, right? And Petin, who is a scared old man who was 84, 85 years old. He said, you know, like the Germans will do to Paris what they did to Warsaw. They will destroy it. They will destroy France. And so he was like, I'm not doing that. De Gaulle's response was, France is not a pile of bricks. France is an idea. And if France is

completely destroyed, so be it. France will still be eternal. And, you know, and those are two equally valid points of view in my mind. I mean, I'm more on team de Gaulle in this discussion, and I'm on team Robbie, but I understand the validity of the opposing point of view. Yeah. Agreed with both. Both are right. Yeah, both are right. I mean, they're taking a risk, but, you know, breathing is a risk. That's right. And Robbie's right. You know, Your dignity and your independence and your freedom are priceless. Okay, so Russia is pissed off at the Brits.

The Brits have been providing drones to the Ukrainians, which have been used in recent days to attack Russia. Russia now says there will be consequences, is the quote. Do you think the Russians are bluffing? And if not, what do you think the consequences might entail? I mean, there was a plant that just blew up somewhere. Nobody took credit for it. Nobody explained why. I don't know.

I mean, I would much prefer countries stop giving threats and warnings and start taking action. Stop telling me what you're going to do. Stop telling me, oh, we're angry at this and we will respond at a date of our choosing. Stop telling me that. Nobody cares. The British government doesn't care. The American government doesn't care. NATO doesn't care. Nobody cares.

As long as everything is self-contained in the context of Ukraine, then that is not necessarily a consequence for Britain. That is a consequence for more sad, dead Ukrainians. So I don't know what their response is going to be. If there's some way where they can hit Britain, without hitting Britain, I'm unaware of what that is. I just don't, they laver off all of these guys, they have made the point of saying we are one mass casualty attack away from Russia

expanding its response to outside of Ukraine. Basically, you're doing this. Just be aware if our air defense fails in one of these nights and a lot of people die, you will feel the brunt of the Russian response. Okay, but that hasn't happened. And even though these are attacks inside Britain or inside Russia, Russia has made it very clear to everyone, including NATO and people that hate

Russia, that they will not respond outside of Ukraine. So I don't know what that response would be. I just, you know, all of these people talk very rarely. Do I see them do stuff short of in the theater to which they're doing it? So I don't know. Well, it's related to that previous discussion, right? I mean, it's, I mean, Russia has to, if they really were to militarily attack a, a British-related target, maybe a vessel or something, you know, they obviously have to be deeply concerned about triggering an Article 5 response, right? Yes, which is where I think all of this goes. But that doesn't mean that they can find some kind of asymmetric way of hitting Britain without.

I have to think this is where, like, hacking comes into play. Maybe. Something like that. I mean, they've already said they'll retaliate against people going after their ships. So. Something with plausible deniability. It seems that Europe wants a war. That's what it seems like.

We keep pushing and pushing and pushing. Yeah, they keep pushing. Yeah, I mean, I think it almost has its own logic. I'm not even sure. I think they'd actually would be surprised if they got a war. They'd be like, what? I don't understand. What are you talking about?

What do? All right. Well, thanks tomorrow. Thanks, everyone for watching. Thank you, Robbie. TMI is coming up right now. We'll be back tomorrow at 9 a.m. time Wednesday we're here Monday through Friday and we'll also have the Q&A show at 12 noon

tomorrow bye guys have a good one okay