DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - One-State Solution, Fear of AI, Age-Gap Relationships

Episode Date: September 14, 2026

Ted Rall, Jamarl Thomas, and Robby West discuss expanding DeProgram into two-hour Monday-Wednesday-Friday shows for better retention and ad revenue after Rumble changes. They debate accountability after a hypothetical one-state solution in Israel/Palestine, historical collaboration and Nuremberg, family Civil War stories, Fed rate hikes amid oil shocks and AI-driven markets, Trump’s character and 2024 vote, identity politics, socialism versus capitalism, Russia striking Ukraine-Poland trains, AI nuclear escalation fears, why Jamarl skipped Kamala Harris over Gaza, age-gap relationships, and corporal punishment’s decline.

This is the Q&A episode of D-Program with Ted Rawl and Jamarral Thomas for Monday, September 14th, 26. Thank you so much for joining us. We do the Q&A Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 12 noon. And so this is the open format. You got anything you want to say, ask, comment, whatever, take us to task over recent events, perhaps, anything you want to do. come on in and do that. We're here for you. Please put your comments in the live chat. If you're watching between 12 moon and 1 p.m., we will look at those in YouTube and Rumble. The paid ones are, of course, especially welcomed, but we appreciate all of your support. We're a little bit talking. In fact,

we probably could start the show by continuing the conversation from this morning. Just at the end, basically we had TMI is going to Tuesday, Thursday only due to changes at Rumble. And so, you know, Jamarle brought up the idea of like maybe expanding the show on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays from 9 a.m. to 10 p.m. to make it a full two hours, 9 to 11. So if you guys have thoughts on that, I mean, I'm game. Just from a show construction standpoint, it's a better idea. like YouTube when you

are rejecting the stream oh really well we don't get any on Facebook anyway I often look at it I don't really ever see anybody on it oh let me let me see hold on okay sometimes you just have to like sort of

redo it again yeah yeah let's see weird about the YouTube hmm it's not good wait you're saying YouTube is not working yeah YouTube oh there we go

YouTube is now live yeah and Okay, yeah. You just talk in the Rumble Studio, if you just toggle the switch sometimes. It comes back on. It comes back on. Look, the two-hour thing is a better idea. And the reason is, it has more to do with the mechanics of it.

When you start a one-hour show and then you stop, then all of those people scatter to wherever they're going to go. Some may go into TMI, some may go into other channels. And then when you come back on at 12, where many of those people have already left. If you have a continuity of the stream, you get all of the ad revenue for the entirety of the two hours and oftentimes you're going to get more people to stay and more people to aggregate to the show, especially if it's something that they're talking about that they like. Meaning you're going to get more people who's going to view it for two hours than you've got to ever get for the people who are going to do them one. The Q&A on some level, and I don't mean

to be said it's poorly, may be considered to be a throwaway because it's a Q&A and it's not necessarily a show. Whereas a show is a show. And those people are joining over the course of the two hours. I could be wrong, but I suspect that what you'll see is you get more views on that one show for two hours than you would get for two shows. one hours each. Yeah, I mean, that sounds, that sounds right to me. It makes sense. Yeah. I mean, I think about the way I listen to radio, right? Like, if I know a show is going on for two hours, I might be like, well, I wasn't around for the first 45 minutes, but I can, you know, I'll stay. Yeah. I'll stay. There's an hour and 15 minutes left, yeah. That's how it often happens,

at least on my show. That's how it happens. I mean, when I used to do a three-hour show, you get people who would float in and float out over the course of the show with a consistent amount of maybe, I don't know, at the end of the show when I, before I got sick around maybe eight, nine hundred. Like I give an example today this morning. I had 1100 people on the show. If it went for a third hour, I suspect that number would float up depending upon the topic. Mm-hmm.

Getting a comment here from, I forget from whom, but basically saying two hours would be great, but we would but the Friday Q&A show should still be something special for the premium members so we'll look we'll have a premium member show it might not be a 12 noon

right it will be there regardless yeah we'll do we will still we will we will honor that pledge yeah so there might be rescheduling involved but we might maybe we just keep that at 11 we make that 11 o'clock Friday yeah just make that exclusive This is a great idea. And I think we'll probably get more revenue doing it that way.

I like more revenue. I need more revenue. More revenue is good. Well, especially if you're talking about YouTube when you're talking about ads, then having a two-hour show with ads going all throughout the show, it's going to be better than having two splits. All right. That sounds good. I can be wrong. I can be talking on my ass. So, you know, never mistake to the coherent. Doesn't sound like it to me. Yeah. You know, usually, that's not really a tucking out of your ass isn't really a tomorrow thing. So I don't know. I've done 10 years. of YouTube, they are moments. Just like virtue of probabilistic averages, right?

There's like, do you still support those positions? Be like, oh, God damn. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was just listening to a fascinating interview with a guy who negotiated for Israel with about the, to try to negotiate a two-state solution during the Oslo negotiations. And he was asked, like, do you still believe

in a two-state solution. And he's like, no. And then he was like, do you still believe that, like, there should be an ethno state like Israel? And he's like, no. He's like, we've had, you know, Zionism was a theory at one point. And now he said, we have had 75 years of really existing Zionism. And we've just seen that basically it just doesn't work and they can't be trusted. And it's just getting worse and worse. And, So he's like, basically, we just need a pluralistic democracy in that region with one man, one vote instead of an apartheid state. And I thought that was in a fact, I was like, it's really brave of him to admit, like, I was wrong. And, you know, now I see it and I've changed my mind.

I was thinking about this yesterday. I forgot who I was talking to. And when I, to be honest, I might have been slightly stone. But I think the thought is still right. there's this difficulty in something like, let's say, Israel, let's say the war stops today. Let's say Israel pulls out of Lebanon. And let's say, after pulling out of Lebanon, they say, you know what, we're okay with a one-state solution. Okay, now what needs to happen after that, prosecutions.

Some people need to be hung, right? If we're looking at Nuremberg and what they did to the Nazis, those people were executed. Okay, so what happens to-Ikman? Eichmann. Yeah. So what happens to Israel? And the people are going to say, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, we don't want retribution. But how do you, are Palestinians just supposed to bear it?

Are the Lebanese just supposed to bear it? Well, there's always the truth and reconciliation commission. It has to be, right? And if you don't, you incentivize an aggressor to do it again. Meaning if you just say, look, we got the Israeli to stop murdering. No harm, no foul. No harm, no foul. Let's just move on.

How do you do that? that's you know i think there should be i mean i think there has to be accountability i mean you know maybe we don't have to hang people but there has to be accountability for these monsters acts i mean but how do you do you not incentivize other monsters to do the exact same thing that israel did if indeed you don't have execution this is kind of like your grandfather right when your grandfather's telling you or you yeah your grandfather is telling you about the war and he's telling you about what was taking place in Paris at the point where the Nazis fell and the collaborators. Okay, well, you didn't have to kill the collaborators.

What did you? I would argue you do because you don't want to incentivize that behavior when something like, meaning there is. Although it didn't stop future collaboration in other countries, I mean, every, you know, there are the Afghan collaborators under the U.S. occupation and so on and so on, right? I mean, it always happens. There's always like, there's always, you know, the oppressor class, the collaborational class, the trader class, always rises up in these scenarios. So I don't know. I mean, people think, I think, you know, the thing is people think that every situation is permanent.

And I think that's what it is. It's not like, oh, if they knew there was going to be a reckoning, then they might be disincentivized. Oh, I could be hung. But if they think, you know, the U.S. will be here forever. I'll be fine, you know. It will be here forever. It'll be fine. But there's an incentive for the state to execute collaborators.

And I mean, from state, I mean the population of the state to do that. Just because you're trying to say, remember, meaning in French history forever, it would be very clear what happens to collaborators. True. It may not translate to Afghans. And I'm sure it gives some people in France pause, like the next time. that decision, it'll be like, do I want to be shot like Pierre Laval? Right. You know.

Exactly. I'm saying some of these things are necessary. And I don't know how the world accepts the situation of murderers and rapists roaming through the countryside of a one-vote, one-man, one-vote country. I mean, of course, there's always the political question of, you know, where do you draw the line, right? Like, I mean, like recently, I think it's, was it Poland that, that prosecuted? a lady who was, I think, 20 at Auschwitz and she was just a secretary. And I'm like, I think that went too far.

You know, does the guard at the wire need to be prosecuted? Maybe, probably. But like, I mean, so it's kind of like, you know, big fish for sure, middle fish, probably, little fish, I don't know. I mean, you can go either way, you know. I had friends on a death star.

Right. Right. I'd say, like, everybody on a death star. died. The janitor died. The guy that was the dog walker for Darth Vader died. All those people died. They were working for the machine. And this goes back to the- Yeah, there's a guy at Guantanamo who drove, who was a chauffeur for bin Laden. All he did was drive the car. Yep. That's my point. Like all of these people accountable. Well, I don't have, that's a difficult question, because as you point out, dude, I'm just the gardener. But that's like, that's what politics is.

politics is the is the process of arguing these things out right yeah well well not of that but also you have to come into to determine okay was this person conscripted and you have no choice but to go because the government says that you will do this you're well either that you're going to die or even better you and your entire family is going to die because you're defying the state versus someone who signs up and volunteers that's an important distinction to have to make because if you're conscripted and you're sent someplace you have no say you have no will in it so i think that's part of that has to be part of the equation too

because no that that's i mean no that guard of buchinwald it is it's just like that that german communist that your granddad shot he didn't want to be there that's the last that's the last thing the last place he ever wanted to be but he had no choice he was a nazi yeah i mean it's not that her um grandfather was in the was in the war and you know sometimes what talk to her when I used to talk to her anyway we don't talk now but when I used to talk to her and that subject came up it's always funny to me she would say well he said that he didn't look when he was firing him going and I was like what because all of this is complicated right like Austria doesn't like to own up to the fact that dude Hitler came from Austria and much of the point you

got were all in on the war and now it's like oh we were forced they fed us they gave you know they pushed us into the war. It wasn't honest. We didn't necessarily want to do that. Okay, I understand that you guys have taught that. Fair enough. I get white, right? Yeah, and let's not forget, there's that Anschliss problem they have to explain. Yes, yes. Yeah, it's funny talking to it. Y'all did vote for it. Yes. You weren't invaded at all. Because she would say, she says, the Russians or the Soviets took my grandfather and took him to a camp and as I'll point out, why did they do that? Because they were mean.

He was random. Who was like they just rolled in one day and said, you know, for just- He was a prisoner of war. Yeah, they were in a war. You guys invaded their country. You guys murdered millions. It's like it- You were the most murderous army in the history of the world. She even points out

I think it was a grandmother. She said when the Russians burst in, her grandmother had to broom. It was like, get away, get away. There's something inherently comical about the broom as a weapon. Yeah. Apparently they didn't mess with her.

The broom was enough. So my ex-wife, since we're trying to doing X stories, she's from Taiwan, and she talked about how she lived when she was a little girl in a house with a dirt floor. And, you know, at the time, Taiwan had the largest concentration and variety of poisonous snakes in the world. And during typhoon season, they didn't want to drown, so they'd come inside to seek shelter.

And she talked about her grandmother, who kind of raised her at that time, with her broom, like, sweeping the adders out the front door. Like, get you rascals. And I'm like, that's just so funny and awesome. It is. I mean, it's, God, man, I miss her. Because there are certain parts of that, like, that I was fascinated by. Like, she's, from her point of view in Europe, the wars were, like, right there. From my point of view as an American, it is not.

From her point of view, all of this European history and all these countries fighting each other and everything else, the Austrian Empire, going after Serbia, first World War, Second World War, and she has family members going through the entire line. It's just fascinating talking to her about it. It's like a history lesson. Kind of a history. I mean, God, like, yeah, I mean, the thing is history is not history there, right? Like, you walk down a street and there's puck marks on the wall.

You're like, oh, one time I was in Paris, I was lost because, you know, I mean, it's a medieval city. So it's got tons of little nooks and grannies. And there was a plaque on the, there was a, I was in a little narrow street. And there was a tall wall. And I could hear kids playing on the other side of the wall, obviously a school playground. But you couldn't see anything. You couldn't see them. just a wall. And there was a modest plaque on the wall that said this was the school where the kids

in that movie, Orieuille Les Enfant, the Louis Mal movie, that's the school where they were deported from. It's chilling. And it's just like, and now the kids are in that same exact playground at that same exact school. I'm sure never renovated because it's rats. And it's like, like, and I speak, I mean, I think that's good, frankly. I think it's cool that the old buildings are still there. It's beautiful. Franklin, Prince is beautiful. Paris is beautiful. By the way, same thing in Richmond, Virginia. If you go down to Main Street, and I don't even know if I took her, I think when she was, because she was in Richmond with me once, I don't know if I took her specifically to the placards, but we were in the area.

In fact, the hotel that we were saying it was like a block away from the area. There's like a placard about the slate markets. If you are in Main Street, there's this area that's full cobblestone that goes down for several blocks that is just cobblestone back from like 17, 1800s, and they never changed it. And down there, they used to do slave auctions. Buildings and everything are still there. The way it looks is still the same. But they used to bring slaves out and they used to sell them for auction. And it's still a district, an economic district, even now. And they have placards for the things that used to take place. It's wild. It's not that far. My father, when he was born in 1928, there were tons of

Civil War veterans walking around. I mean, that's two lifetimes ago. It's just barely happened. Well, you saw that sword that I've got. My grandfather's grandfather, he never surrendered. He fought, originally the First Brigade. He's like that Japanese guy who didn't come out until 1970.

But 10 years later. Well, I mean, he kept fighting for like another three years because when the war started, he moved his wife and his kids down to Atlanta, thinking, well, they're going to be safe because he lived once now West Virginia. He lived off of Chet Mountain. Well, when Sherman went through, his troops hung his wife and his kids. So for him, at that point, it was personal. So at Appomattox, after Lee surrendered, he just slipped off into the bush.

And he kept killing Yankees for like a next three years. He went weirwolf style. Yeah. He was just like, for him, it was personal. And his brother bought for the Union Army. My brother, my brother, Jeep still has his diary. And it's about this Christmas of 1868, of 1868, he went to the family farm there in West Virginia. His brother was on the porch wearing his Yankee, his blue coat.

And I'm named after his name is Robert Fulton. He pulled his gun and he was going to blow his brother away right there on the porch. Jesus. And he said, his mom screamed. His dad came out and said, son, the war is over. And that was the end. he just turned around and he moved to mobile Alabama got remarried and that's where my line comes from but yeah I mean it's just it just comes down to what you're talking about is you know

when it comes to military stuff because one thing's we're talking about in that diary talked about he was trading tobacco with a northern soldier from Ohio and in the diary is like well Johnny why you fight us because they called settlers Johnny Rebs and my norther's he called billy yanks and he said, well, because you all are down here. Well, that's the other interesting part of the war. It's not like you're fighting foreigners. You're just fighting your brothers. Like meaning you're fighting people who are, they can be neighbors.

Yeah. Why are you fighting? Well, why are you fighting people? Because you're down here. I mean, it don't get much plainer than that. Yeah, because you just shouldn't be here. So, all right, we have a very generous donation. Thank you so much for the $20.

from San Paul Massano, 85% chance on polymarket that the Fed raises rates would probably lead to a dump across the market, especially since oil prices are pumping. This will not be the red team going into the midterms. Did the market crash? Was there a huge drop in the market when it opened? I didn't check. I didn't check either. I'm assuming there is, but I don't know as a fact. A few things was taking place. Oil was going through the roof.

That's like fall on slowdown. There we are. Okay, I was right. Hot damn it. I've been damn good of being right recently. The Mecca Accords thing, I was right that they weren't going to get involved and the reason that they weren't getting involved in the stock market. Because the reality of it is, most of the gains in our stock market, or most of the gains from a standpoint of our economy, are all AI or either tech. meaning data centers, AI, those type of things. You take that out the market. Well, the U.S. is in a recession. They've been this kind of weird and sensuous relationship between these things,

where they've been putting money into each other in this kind of circle jerk. And so for the AI guy to come out and say, hey, we have a slowdown. We need a slowdown. Well, he's calling for a slowdown, not because he cares about existence or reality. Keep in mind, Palantir and many of these other companies have been making things to kill other human beings. So they don't care about that. I think what they care about is that China has just shown their business model to be obsolete before it even got out. The U.S. has been putting trillions of dollars into these data centers and all those other stuff in AI.

And China has been putting a fraction of that amount for basically very similar results. And it's not like if I'm doing a YouTube channel, I don't need the greatest AI in the history of AIs. I need something that can do the job that I needed to do. hints, China's, and the reason why I think it's like three out of the top four are Chinese companies. Okay, well, if they're giving this stuff as open AI, I mean, meaning they're opening open source for their attack. And their explicit point is the United States should not be able to dominate one particular sector like this. Hence, we are going to make sure the entire world has access to this from China side. Look at your model.

This just went belly up. True. That's why it's going for the slowdown. But by virtue of them doing that, and by virtue of so much of the economy being part of tech sector and AI and all this other stuff, the market immediately goes belly up as a result. Now, but in terms of this question, right, I mean, look, obviously we talked about the Saudi situation this morning. Oil prices are obviously going to keep going up. I mean, I was on the road this weekend. I happened to look at one of those big reflectorized signs on the side of the freeway that shows the prices.

As I drove by, I swear this is true, the price of diesel went up six cents in the two seconds I was looking at it. Okay, granted, that's a coincidence, but it was kind of a chilling moment. And, you know, I mean, so yeah, clearly, look, if the Fed raises raids, that's, I mean, this economy is teetering on the edge of disaster. They've been, you know, keeping it on life support, much mad props to the Trump administration. but, you know, they've been blowing air into the leaking tire, but it's, it's going to, you know, they're out of options now. And this is like basically like blowing up the tire entirely. They can't, they can't fucking raise rates. If they raise rates, they're fucked.

I mean, yeah, but if they don't raise rates, they're fucked. True. I mean, you can't have both ways. The issue is inflation. Donald Trump has been creating all sorts of inflation, A, because of their tax on Russian oil. Midterms be coming and people are not happy about the economy, nor should they be. right, the Fed is supposed to be separate from the White House. Right?

Like, and there's an argument to be made that the Fed is overrated. Like, and I don't mean that in a radical sense. The Fed has gotten a thing of, okay, there's an economic issue. The Fed can put water on it. The Fed can handle it. We're going to give it to the Fed to do X or Y. But there's no way to really know if the Fed was doing anything per se, or if it was just the other countries around the globe hadn't been in a position.

Like, meaning right now, You have so many competitors to the United States. You have all sorts of countries that have started to get part of the global economy. Okay, was it that those countries weren't a part of the economy? So the Fed worked? Meaning we're assuming that the Fed has power over this stuff. I agree with you that the Fed raising rates is going to send a signal to the market. And that's going to be all sorts of problematic.

The issue that Trump is dealing with is dealing with is inflation. And the Fed's who has a responsibility to make sure inflation is low. I don't think they ever contended of having a president that's making sure it stays high. But regardless of what the Fed does, Donald Trump's policies is the thing that is exploding, the cost of energy, food, etc. I don't know if the Fed has power over that. Well, they're going to have to do something because the United States running out of motor oil was on my bingo card for 2026. Costco, yes. So then that means that what you've got to do is that you have to, you have to begin to slow

down the rate of consumption. So that means you've got to make it harder for people to borrow money, in order to slow down the purchasing. The only way that you can do that is with higher interest rates. True, but we are $40 trillion in debt. We are already paying more than a trillion dollars on interest rates. What do you think is going to happen the moment that the Fed goes up on their rates? Well, what's going to happen is that there what's going to kick and they're going to scream? Trump is going to start.

He's, I mean, Trump's already floated the idea once again about going full Japanese style and having negative interest rates to start penalizing people for saving, which is insane. Yeah, well, we already have no incentives for saving at all. Right, but he's doing that because he's failing as a president. Of course. Meaning the idea that the president is saying we need negative interest rates, it's outrageous. It's you are starting wars. You are increasing the cost of everything across the board because everything relies on diesel, off of that matter, regular oil.

That's exactly it. You know, like that's not the fit. And that's got a point. He's recreating the pandemic, basically. He's shutting down the global supply. chain. Yes. Yes. That's a good way to look at it. Yeah. And so it's like on one sense, he's like, hey, the fed should do something about this inflation. Or I'm sorry, the fed shouldn't do anything about this inflation. They should make it even worse. They should have more people putting money into more people buying stuff. And what's wild about that? As if a negative interest rates is effectively saying we need business to increase, which by definition means we need to consume more oil, more energy, more gas, more, et cetera. Okay, dude, you're creating a shortage of that product. Well, remember, like two weeks ago, Trump is being interviewed. I don't care about housing host.

So I want them to be higher. And so from his perspective, no, from his perspective, he wants the people who have means to be able to continue spending more. And he doesn't really care if Joe citizen ends up being left out in the cold. For him, that doesn't matter. It's all, it's all about that positive GDP number. I'm not even sure why people didn't know that. before they voted for him. Like, that part blows my mind.

Well, I mean, they, he wasn't, he wasn't as clear about that, you know. But we could see if he was a false, he was obvious, narcissists. He was obvious into himself. It was about hubris, like, meaning it had nothing to do with anybody else. There has anything that Donald Trump did,

giving you this assessment that Donald Trump cares about me, or cares about anybody? No, but they, but people still bought into that mythology that's been planted going back at least to Ross Perot that a business person would be great at running the government. If a businessman were a successful business person were to be in charge of the government, then the economy would thrive. And the thing is, the Dow Jones Industrial Average did do well under Trump's first term and

during much of his second term, right? So, like, if you were to look at that as a measure, which we're told we should, then a lot of people would buy into it. But of course, look, I mean, you know, they're still denying the state of the economy now. Yeah. Well, the government is, for one, the government is not a business, as you know, and as I guess the American public does not know, be the responsibilities of a business

is the maximized profit, that it's not the responsibility of the government, per se. And beyond all of that, just looking at the character of the person should have been enough. Like, it's shocking. Like, how to hell? That's the democratic argument, right?

I know, but how the hell does a person try to overthrow the government of the U.S. and public votes them back in anyway? That blows my mind. Well, then the alternative was Kamala. Yeah, exactly. So what was the alternative? So, I mean, there was no choice here. But beyond anything else.

Which is why I always say, Bobby, we don't get the government to serve. The United States. Whoever is on the other side. And by the way, I didn't vote for Kamala. So just to be clear, and I attacked him vigorously over the course of the election. So this is not a raw, Ra, Rahmala. argument. This is an argument individual and specific to Trump. The man tried to overthrow the government of the United States. How the hell do you put him in office? Meaning he's he's forfeited.

Any idea of trust that is necessary for somebody to give somebody that much power to be in that office. Let me let me let me try on a theory for you. And I don't I just it just popped into my head. It could easily be wrong like a lot of them. What if the American, what if the fact that the Democrats impeached him over, over January 6th, and went after him with lawfare and got him convicted of all sorts of crimes. What if in the minds of the American people, they no longer had the agency to punish Trump and hold him accountable by voting against him at the polls because in a sense that had already been kind of taken care of and then some by the Democrats. But these are separate concerns.

I guess what I based us on is anybody who's trying to take office, a huge amount of power is going to be placed into their hands when they take office. Hence, trust on some level needs to be even just a basic level of trust of how far is this person willing to go when we put this person in office? Can we trust this person not to destroy the state or for the amount to get everybody killed? Can we trust the person to leave when they lose, which is the big one? And Trump, and by the way, the lawfare hadn't necessarily happened while he was in office. First time, it happened after he got out of office when he was trying to basically run for office again. I'm saying when he tried to overthrow the government, it wasn't that was that wasn't on him yet. Yes, they were going after for the Russia gate stuff.

And he impeached him twice. The second impeachment, he should have been put in a cage. The first one was nonsense. But it requires a certain faculty to be able to look at that and say he can't be trusted. Just full stop. He can't be trusted. How can we trust somebody who tried to overthrow the government of America? By the way, the government that he was the head of at the time. He wasn't even trying to overthrow someone else. He was trying to coo himself into a second term. And those fools in the House of Representatives would have done so, meaning Al Gore couldn't get. a random Democrat to effectively back his position.

He would have had Republicans in the House and in the Senate to back him up on that shit, meaning they knew it was fake. They didn't care. What they cared about was, hey, maybe we can stay in power. They didn't give a shit about this notion of American governance or this idea of a Republican, or any of those ideas.

None of those ideas matter. And the public who can watch it, see what they're on eyes, still put that fool back in office. Now, I get that that's a condemnation of Democrats. True, but that is, There's something wrong with that. Maybe you're right. Well, I think what gave Trump cover.

And Trump lost me like two years into his turn. When he started bomb in Syria and then came out against the Fourth Amendment and then the Eighth Amendment, so it's like, okay, Robbie's off the Trump train. I'm done with you. Because you've shown who you are. The problem is that the Democrats tried so hard to rush to resurgate him that he was able, let the Democrats. tried so hard to so they tried so hard to rush agate him that he was able let the democrats themselves attacked the very institutions that they would have then needed to have impeached them that's the

problem like they were their own pathogen and so trump was then able to go in and said that these same people have been trying to put me in a cage saying that the institutions say that the institutions are flawed they're broken they're corrupt they're being influenced and then all Trump did, he has took a page out of their playbook and said, the reason I lost the election is because they are guilty of what they accused me of, and I need your help. That's what this is. Differently.

They did it obliqually. But it doesn't matter. They still did it. That's the point. And Trump, for all of his flaws, he is an excellent showman. And he's able to communicate when he wants to. And so he was able to expose what the Democrats did with the whole Russiagate scheme. And I was able to cast enough doubt over the institutions where when it was not for him to go,

he's able to say, well, I really did not lose the election. Look at what these people have done. And use their own receipts to do it. By the way, I agree with you. The catch is the overwhelming majority of the American population looked at the election was like, dude, you lost. I mean, he had a percentage. True. But his base would have supported enough for anything.

He could just say, you know, I'm Jesus Christ incarnate. Come back to the earth. And his base would have like, yeah, we think that's about right. So I don't really count them. I'm talking about the rest of the American public who looked at this and was like, this looks a bit dodgy. I don't look. Well, the entire first term looked dodgy. I guess the main point is it's a cancer on our society.

And it's not Trump specifically, just the notion that the American public would look at somebody. And for the most part, believe full well, this guy's lying in order to stay in office. And he's trying to overthrow the state. And then for them to turn around and say, he's fine. meaning there's something about I don't know if this would have worked in the 60s I just don't well we weren't in crisis in the 60s

I mean look if what's wrong is I mean there was look you alluded to the fact that you didn't vote for Kamala I'm assuming he didn't wrote for Trump didn't vote there no and neither did not I voted but I didn't vote for either of the two mainstream candidates and I don't and I think the point is if we were a rational country

the whole country would have voted for a third party in 2024. But we're not. Literally, we bought all sorts of nonsense. We always buy into these nonsense arguments like, oh, but if I vote for this person, it's a wasted vote because they don't have

a chance of winning, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, these are nonsense arguments because you can only affect one vote. So what you decide, you wanting to be part of the popular crowd doesn't change the outcome. You can only control yourself. but people buy into it.

I mean, politically, we're not a smart people. We're just not. It's just, I mean, even, it's almost like they don't think fires have. It's almost like they think this government or governments in general are fixed things given by God in some kind of weird way. It's like, no, these are decisions that people make where they can go off the rails. Governments have collapsed. Governments have gone off the rails. governments can dissolve. They can fall apart. It's like an egg, right? It can be broken.

It doesn't seem like Americans think that. The idea that somebody will put Trump back in office after he tried to overthrow the government, meaning he tried to destroy America. Let's put it in the most darkest terms. This would have been something else. It wouldn't have been America. It would have been Trump land. And we don't even know if there would have been a civil war as a direct result from certain states saying we're not doing this. We're not getting involved. Probably not. That's literally what's taking place in Ukraine, right? A government comes in. The government goes the war. Part of the population said, we don't want to be part of this because you were overthrown. You didn't win this in earnest.

So we are not legally bound to you in the least. We can decide to do elsewhere. Fuck it. We're going with the Russians. And then Ukraine as a government starts murdering its own population. That is literally what Trump was trying to do. Do you know why? It's like the population looks at that and it's like, yeah, I don't get the apathy.

I just don't understand that. Well, I can explain that part. It's because the oligarchs who run this country have done a masterful job trying to convince people, J.T., that look like you, to be afraid of people look like me and vice versa. And it's the whole identity politics. Like I would rather have a Republican strongman in office or a husk of a man with dimension in office because that other person is too scary. That guy's a monster. And so I need to support my tribe. It doesn't matter if my tribe is doing it is illegitimate.

It doesn't matter if they're corrupt. It doesn't matter if they're looking up for me. They are the wall that protects me from the orcs. And I think that's really what it is. Yeah. More in common with people in Montana and people in some random place than I do with them. Of course. But the oligarchs don't want you to don't want the people to know that.

I guarantee you like the majority of the people here in the chat, if they if if if we all got to get like for like a deep program convention we would have an which would be awesome time it would be it would be it would be amazing let's do that let's build this show and so we could do that it would be awesome but the thing is though is that if you're telling fox news or cnn or msdnc or stephen crowder they're all going to tell you the problem is not trump it's not the epstein class it's not these other people It's either those right wingers who want to take away your abortions and put you all in camps or the Republicans are going to be, it's all of those pesky brown and black people and those

purple-haired liberals. Or the socialists. Yeah, who want to put you in camps. That's what it is. And that's a distraction. The three of us disagree on a whole hell of a lot. But we agree on a whole hell of a lot, too. And the American people would as well if they could simply stop screaming at each other and start

listening. 100%. Agreed. Guys, more comments. Okay. This is from Ben Queen. How do you guys as leftists, well, not Robbie, talk politics with people who claim that socialism doesn't work without really pointing to any solid evidence beyond it being too

good to be true? That's a hard linguistic construction here. China exists as a country. I mean, how could they say it doesn't work? The United States is literally at rivalry with them. Also, there's this idea that just because somebody started off at a particular place and came over to a particular interpretation that that socialism is nonsense, there were all sorts of different versions of socialism and people had all sorts of ideas

on what it looked like in practice when the Soviet Union was trying to build up. It seems like what they mostly point to it is Soviet Union and Venezuela. And it's like, okay, including Venezuela is nonsense. If you're going to point to a success, I would say China. They would say, well, China has a capitalistic part of it. True, but China calls itself a communist country and is enacted socialism a way they think it needs to be run to work. Meaning there isn't this mythical, specific individual version of socialism that is the end-all-be-all of what it means to be, quote, a socialist. Any more than there is of capitalism.

Exactly. Yeah, I mean, I think that's that's right. I mean, the whole, I mean, yeah, what you have to say is like, look, there's no pure, there's never been a purely socialistic society, but the fact is socialism has been used in practice in most countries, including in part in the United States. We have socialistic aspects to our social safety net, and some of those work very well. So it's. Yeah, they work incredibly well.

they are exceptionally good at privatizing the profits and socializing the losses. So that's inverted. That's the problem is a pyramid. I mean, war is a socialistic enterprise. Let's be very clear. The people who make the profits from that war is a very private, capitalist enterprise. It's like we're putting money in the people's pockets as we go kill people and have our soldiers in life's harm's way. The government is paying the soldiers. The government is paying for their housing. The government is paying for the bases that are just been blown the shit. The government is paying for all of those things. And I don't even know what it gets back from it for short of a lot of people being killed. Got a comment.

It's a made better for the war. $20 from Sam Palmasano. Thank you again. We are overinvesting in tech infrastructure that will be outdated in two to five years before the debt on it is even paid off. Yes. Shout out to Moore's law. Yes. Trillions of dollars. Trillions of dollars. We always too. And what's while about it? The belief said, I mean, it's kind of like the dot-com bubble burst. Where you had all of these companies, all of these people, all of these ideas, this is what dot com is going to be. This is what it's going to be.

And ultimately, it became a thing unto itself. But many of those businesses went belly up almost immediately. In fact, the company that I was working for was just after the bubble bus. And they were telling me how they used to make a million dollars off of their contracts that have now dropped to like $100,000 is the most that they can get off of a contract. Yeah. No, it's, I mean, we always see investors make the same mistakes and, yeah, no question about that. Let's see. More comments here. Enamanda Raqi, did you guys hear about the Russian strike on trains near Poland? Yes. Four and a half years late. And one apparently almost hit like a U.S. official?

On Petraeus. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Former U.S. official. Yeah, apparently Petraeus was at the train station. Bush Johnson claims that he was on the train, and there were several Western officials that were on the train. They waited for the train to stop, and they blew at the shit the moment that it stopped. A drone apparently hit it. Now, this is momentous because what this means is, is Russia finally getting to the point of putting Ukraine in its own dimension? What I mean by that is they've already taken off the port, so nothing gets in by port.

they've taken the air. So Russia is hitting them like 24 hours a day. I think at the least over the weekend, it seems like they were doing that. They're crouching, or at least they're accelerating on Prometheus Sladiens, which means those places are surrounded, not to mention MacI gains is Aporoja, Sumi, etc. And now the port that allows that Russia had not hit, meaning they allow this kind of transfer between Poland and Ukraine. They've hit it. And so they sent warning already saying, look, be careful when you're going to the Kiev that's a war zone, heads up. And now they hit a train that Western diplomats apparently weren't in the train station on.

Is this Russia finally cutting off Ukraine from Poland? Interesting. I think maybe so. Or it's the beginning of that. I mean, the question is a long time. Why are you allowing the trains to continue to bring shit in from Poland? I've asked that question. I've asked that question for years. If you want to win the war, then why do you keep on allowing your enemy continue to reconstitue this army? I wonder it's because now the EU is starting to pressure the Ukrainians and they're starting to draft women. And the Russians like that, that's a bridge too far.

I mean, I mean, but I don't think. But also, Russia's feeling more confident now post-bricks and everything. I mean, this is like this is the best thing that ever happened to Russia. Well, also, they have an election coming up. Putin is being pressured by the population because Putin is a dove for the most part. I know people in the West don't believe that. No, but that's true. Yeah, in comparison to the people on the ground and the people in the Duma, they want him to go, right?

Like, go time. Yeah, that's true. And Putin is like, well, we should consider this. We need to think about this and blah, blah, blah. Well, now they're hitting those trains. And so I agree with Rabia on this, four years too late. God bless. they may not have had the capability of doing it before.

They got the capability of doing it now. I think they have the capability. I think what this is is the idea. And if you're right with your numbers, that two million Ukrainian men are dead. Not wounded, but dead. Andre. Andre is Ukrainian. He used to be a whistleblower.

In fact, Andre was there when the might on and all that shit went off. Yeah, I believe that. Yeah. I mean, but if that's true, and then the EU is. starting to pressure them. Okay, now that you're running out of men, do women. You need to start drafting up the women. And my question is, first, where the hell all the feminists? And then start sitting them into the meat grinder. You can forget about demographic winter. That is the extinction, that is the extinction of an entire people at that point. And so at that point. And also,

they've lost a lot of people who have fled. They've fled the country. Millions. They're living all over the world. Yeah, it's a dying country. And in true sense, the world. Yeah, their population is probably down by about a third, which is insane. Yeah. But I will need to jump out now, fellas. I have to get ready for another podcast.

All right, happy podcasting. See you soon. Thank you, Robbie. All right. Daniel, BTS says it's been reported that in war modeling, the AI prefers to immediately escalate to nuclear war instead of a conventional attack. do you guys believe this will soon become reality? I mean, it kind of makes sense that the AI would do that, right?

Because it's sort of like, why fuck around? Why not just go straight to, like, we have the advantage. We have nuclear weapons. Why not do it? Well, because the AI is looking at it as, well, we can't win the conventional war in that sense. So it has to be nuclear. And it's probably looking at it as from its point of view, this is going to happen anyway. But escalation is going to take place anyway.

Mind you, the AI model is just being run by human beings. It's like, how do you think? okay let's put that into the model it's not like we can program the AI to think in a way that we don't necessarily think it's going to escalate if there's a conflict with China okay what do we think is going to happen in that conflict okay US is going to do something China is going to respond US is going to do some China's going to respond they're going to be sinking our warships etc and when it comes down to it one country is going to have to say we're going to pull up the country that's losing is either going to say we'll pull out or we escalate the news

Now, India and Pakistan have had spermishes, and the fear is always, are they going to escalate to nukes? Because how far is this war going to go? And if Pakistan starts losing, is Pakistan going to pull out a nuclear nuclear? Trump and Iran. Yeah. Yeah, same thing. I mean, the reality of it is, or the weirdness of it is that strategy doesn't exactly work against a non-nuclear power in human terms. It's hard for the U.S. to make an argument that they need to use nukes against Iran.

Well, the question is would we ever, what we're talking about here is the SkyNet scenario, right? So would we ever put directly allow or inadvertently allow AI to have command and control over nuclear weapons to the point where it could exercise that decision? No. I don't think so. It's hard to imagine. Yeah, I can't see it. I mean, I can't see that decision out of the hands of somebody who's going to say, yeah, or nay. regular drones flying to a robot? Yes. A new? That's hard. Like, I can't even imagine the world

whether that's okay. If you're wondering why I keep getting up, it's because my cat can't decide if he wants to be inside or outside. If you know that, you know that deal. All right. Duskburn has a question for you, JT. Why didn't you vote for Mamala? Wait, said that one more time. Why didn't you vote for Kamala Harris? I didn't vote for Kamala Harris. Why did you not? Why did you not? Oh, because neither gets me,

neither goes in the direction that I want politically. I mean, Kamala Harris wouldn't even deviate from the genocide, which I got to be honest, it didn't really matter whatever else was going to be on the marquee. If you're backing a genocide, my answer was going to be, go F off. I mean, if you imagine somebody saying, yeah, I'll vote for Hitler. for other reasons because he keeps the trains going on time.

You're like that Audubon. Yeah, but as a human being with a moral conscience, that's not the priority, right? Like, the fact that you have an auto bond and you can drive as fast as you want. That's nice, but what about all these millions of people that are killed? It's that. And I guess my point is, if a political person doesn't know that,

then she shouldn't get my vote. If she doesn't know that's bad, If she can't say it, that's bad. That is wrong. That's not something that should happen. This should be a low bar. They're murdering kids for fucks it. And you can't say it, then no.

The previous president that was in office gave Israel any and everything that they wanted. Israelis themselves were shocked that Joe Biden didn't put pressure on Israel to stop or at the very least chill out on the widespread murder. They were shocked by it. The records that came out after the fact, they were like, Joe Biden, I think they said, quote, Joe Biden was God's gift to Israel. unquote. Okay, if you are running in a race and you can't say that's bad, then beyond anything else, I'm not voting for you. Mind you, I probably wouldn't have voted for her anyway. What plan did she have? What was she going to do in that office? She believed, like Democrats believe, that she should get the vote

just by virtue of being in opposition to Trump. I think that's nonsense. You're running on your own merits. full stop. So yeah, the Democratic Party has done nothing to be worthy of a vote, let alone a presidential vote. Agreed. Totally. We have a $2 donation from Kilroy for president.

Did you see John Kiriaku walked the runway at NYFW? Did he? What's NYFW? I could think New York Fashion Week? Always something I follow. Not really. Yeah, I did not see it.

But I hope he was fashionable. He had a nice young 20-year-old with him on his arm. He was partnered with carrot top on some thing. I don't even understand. He didn't have a next 20-year-old with him. That's how I was usually done. I just don't understand. I was not right.

I'd have like a 20. See, but a 20-year-old, I realize, I can't be honest, I call 20-year-old kids. Yeah, yeah. The order you get, the more foreign they seem. And the left you haven't come. I went on a date when I was in Nepal, and I'm sorry, when I was in Malaysia. Her and I clicked immediately.

And we, and I don't mean click like hooked up. I just mean we were viving off each other very quickly. So we go out to Starbucks and we're talking and we're talking and she's telling me about the country, she's telling me about that stuff. And I thought to myself, she's, this is adorable on some level. but God, man, that's such a golf. It feels like 819, Steely Dance song. Hey, 19, that's Ritha Franklin.

She don't remember the Queen of So. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's just weird. My ex-girlfriend, which she found out, she was like, ew, that's gross. It's like, you're just jealous. She's like, eh, she's so young. She's like 18 years you're saying your junior.

Yeah, I mean, I have to admit, I mean, like, for me, when I think of big age gap, relationships like Sunyi and Woody Allen or whatever. I mean, I don't even think like it's gross at all. I think my first thought is like for the older person, which is usually the guy, what do you guys have to talk about? I mean, you know, like you're going to constantly be like doing historical explanations. So in the 1970s, there was a form of music called punk rock. And One of these bands was called Flipper. And it's like, oh, my God, that's all you'd be doing all day.

It just seems like, you know, you just never get to anything deep. Well, it depends on the relationship. Like, look, I would say, well, Max, the one thing that I think that we got right, kind of, at least got right for me. And it realized why some of my other relationships didn't work all that well because I didn't know what I didn't know at the time. She was very emotional. And I realize that that forces me to engage her on that particular level in a way that it didn't have to engage my exes with.

And that's a power. It's a, you know, like meaning if you're having conversations and conversations are inward about how you guys feel about each other, what you guys think about each other, those type of things. You can avoid some of this other shit, like meeting even with the age yet. At least I think so. I could be wrong. Duskburn says probably not much talking going on LOL. Well, true. but you can only fuck for so long.

Exactly. I was thinking about that. I was like, my land speed record in my entire life is I have fought seven times in a 24-hour period. I don't think that could happen. I would have to be well-rested for that to happen now. But my point is, even so, all right, each time, half an hour, let's say five times a day, eight hours of sleep. Okay, so that leaves, you know, out of a 24-hour period, it leaves 16 hours. You're going to do it.

Let's say you do half a dozen times, which is badass. All right. So that's three hours down. That leaves 13 hours to fill up. You still, you're mostly talking. Even in bed, you're mostly talking, you know? Yeah, my last B record was 17 in three days. What?

I would never hit that record again. I would never touch it. In fact, it got so goofy we started counting. That's the only reason I was going to say. Yeah, what's really weird about that is that basically nothing's coming out, really, but it's more and more intense. Speak for yourself. Lubricant for days.

No, I could never get that record again. Couldn't even come close to it. It's like you get one good one and you're like, all right. There was some French nobleman who, like, I think he did it eight times in 24 hours. And he had, and he made that like his logo. He like had buttons made with the number. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He was that proud. He was like, this is my thing, yeah. I remember one of my ex-girl friends who knew that I went to New York. to meet, what's her, I'm not going to name her, I'll just say, Miss Ares. And she kept asking me, did you guys hook up? And I didn't tell her, and I wouldn't tell her. But she kept asking me. And the thing in my head kept saying, tell her, tell her, tell her, tell her.

It kept telling me this because I was proud of it, right? Right. Just happened. I'm a guy. I don't know to tell you. I was proud. It was in, what, 30? Sure.

And when I told her, she, the silence was definite. Like it was just like and she said what? I don't know what she expected. She did, I don't know if she expected a number. I don't know what she expected, but she kept asking me. And she told me one day she says, but when she stopped having sex with me after that. She never, oh, that sucks me, you know, after that. She hated my guts.

At least I think she did see, I think she secretly hated my guts after that. And I think her thing was, why did you choose her over me? Hmm. Well, I can't answer that question honestly. absolutely to you. Right. Yeah, there's a lot of, I mean, it's really funny. I mean, I feel like this is a big gender gap thing that people don't talk about a lot, which is men usually don't answer. Maybe, okay, I don't know. I've never been in a relationship with a dude, but I just, I wonder, do, I mean, women often ask questions that they really don't shouldn't or don't want the answers to.

Right. And I don't, I know myself, I don't. I don't ask questions that I don't want the answer to. Really? Yeah, I don't. What would be a question you don't want to answer to? Well, like, let's say I'm hanging with a, let's say I'm hanging with an ex-girlfriend and we're just friends, right? And like, I might say like, oh, how's your new guy? Are you guys getting along well? And I do want the answer to that.

I don't want to answer. Is he better in bed than I am? I'm not answering that question. I don't want to. Right. If I ask the question, I would actually want to know. I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't ask it, you know. See, I wouldn't even ask.

And as, I guess I'm more complicated. I've had a woman tell me you're more complicated than my girlfriends. For one, I wouldn't want to know about her new boyfriend. I wouldn't want to know about her wife. I don't want to know about anything, which is why I usually don't have connections with Max. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Max was the only one I've ever really had a connection with after the relationship.

And I think it only worked because, I don't know, my feelings for her complicated. To Kill Roy, thanks for the $2. $25 and 20-year-olds are kids to me also. I don't know how old you are, Gilroy. I mean, you know, it's funny, too. Like, it's weird because it's like, like, my son's 22. And, I mean, the thing is, it's like he's at least as smart as I am. And, you know, he's wise and his insights that I don't, I can't and don't have.

So it's like he's a fully realized adult and sparkling awesome. And I actually love this generation. I think, thank God, Gen, you know, millennials are being, you know, eclipsed by Gen Z. Thank God. Millennials are like, just like, I think they were cursed. The last generation.

Yeah, they're cursed. But Gen Z, like, they understand their position, right? Like, they know what's real. And, you know, in a way that millennials maybe don't, I don't know. Anyway, the point is that I don't, so it's kind of like, yeah, it's not like when I say their kids, I don't mean like they're not smart or wise. I just mean quite the opposite. I just think there, but there's the inexperience is just like. As a pejorative, I say it out of a kind of low, I think. Like, I don't know if you're, you've never heard of three body. And in Dark Forest and in the other book, they have, oh, what is it? They put people in, um, Cryo, they have cryo, cryo sleep, which allow people to kind of jump centuries. And so you have people who have jumped centuries who call the people of the current century children.

And in some cases they say it as a pejorative. In some cases, they say it out of love. It's like these are our beloved children. Yeah, it's that type of thing. Like baby vampires. I don't think that. And the reason, that's part of the reason why I call them kids. If you're 60 and you're looking at somebody who's in their 20s, you know so much shit that they don't know.

And I don't mean textbook stuff. I mean life stuff. There's life stuff that you've encountered that they've never encountered. They don't know anything about. They have no idea about they only have conceptual ideas about these things that don't live up to practice in reality. And I think from 60 to 20, that gap is significant. I don't think he knows everything. In fact, I know it's a flat fact he doesn't know everything that you've known or experience.

It's impossible for him to have done so. Yeah. Yeah, no question. Also, I think, you know, but in a way, I think there's probably, like, at least with Gen X, there's, we're an unusual older generation in that we're interested in what younger people are about. You know, like, when I was a kid, man, it was totally like kids, children would be seen and not heard. Like, you know, silent gen people, our parents, they did not care about what was, you know, our opinions. Like, you know, like there was no world in which a kid, when I was a kid in like the 60s or 70s, would ever be able to tell our parents like what we want. Oh, I want to play my music on the car radio.

It would have been like, what, how hard do you want to be hit right now? Are you serious? Like, it wouldn't even cross your mind. You're living in a constant state of terror. You're like, you know, just please, like, don't say anything that might get me hit more than usual. You know. Yeah, that's not how it was race. I mean, but like you said, there's a gap.

You're 20 years older. Yeah, that is the gap. Well, I mean, that's the gap, right? Think about it. Like, for hundreds, thousands possibly of years, like, basically parents hit their kids, and it was routine. And, like, that stopped in when I was a kid. Like, when I was a kid, I got hit by my teacher in first grade, public school, right? that basically kept going until the state of Ohio, like about, although some states still have corporal punishment, but like the state of Ohio kind of phased out corporal punishment between my K and my 12.

And like it sort of became just like you're not allowed to hit the kids anymore. And then later, then like in the 80s, like states like Ohio basically were like child protective services. Like if you're getting hit at home, you can call and get your parents arrest. it, right? So it went, it just completely changed. And like violence against children was systemic and normal and, you know, every parent hit their kids. And like now it's not okay. It's not even legal. Right. So it's like it's a different world. I mean, it's really a great change in my opinion. It's like such, it's mostly a positive development. But these kids are weaker. Well, they probably Probably, yeah.

I think the generation of kids were weaker. And I don't mean that. Yeah, well, but that makes sense. We were children of abuse, so of course we were stronger. Yeah, but I mean, like, every other day a kid is like 19, is like, oh my God, I've suffered so much trauma. It's like, shut up. That's how I feel. Like he's like, that's how I feel about the pandemic.

And they're like, like, Gen Z, they're like, oh, you bruh, the pandemic was so bad. bad. I'm like, okay, I understand. I was here. It was, you know, inconvenient. But, I mean, it's not a war. It's not like when I was a kid worrying that I was going to be drafted someday. You know, it's not like, you know, it's not like that bad. It's not like worrying about your parents, you know, coming home and beating the shit out of you. Right. I mean, which every kid had to worry about. It just seemed very brittle. That's all. Well, I mean, I think that's just sort of the trade-off, right? Like, you can abuse your children, and then they might become those who survive and don't lose their minds or suicide.

They grow up to become fully realized human beings and strong and tough and they can go do war correspondency in Afghanistan. Or you can not do that, but they become, but they're, you know, softer. I think it's better to have softer kids, really. We shouldn't be being our kids. It's just like, it's just wrong. You should be safe with your parents. You really just should be. They're going to be a lot of new position.

Everybody's worried about AI. Going to therapy. There are going to be plenty of therapist jobs. Available watch. And then it's like, everybody has a therapist. It's a normal thing. It's like having a, I don't know, like an AI helper. It's just your therapist.

You keep on, like, oh my God. Somebody yelled in me in the traffic. It's okay. Civilized sodium says, Ted, it did not stop. I guess there's still, yeah, obviously they're still parents. But I mean, it's certainly in, yeah, okay, like, like Robbie's for corporal punishment, right? So, I mean, it hasn't stopped. But it's like, there's been a C change.

It's like sort of like most people don't smoke anymore. It was completely normal to smoke like in the nativity board, you know. No, I agree with you, by the way. I do think that's a change. Yeah. I remember when I was in school and met with Christian school and, like, there was this question of, should they be able to hit the kids? Like with the principal,

should be able to hit the kids. And, of course, after a few parents, I will beat your ass if you touch my kid. Oh, yeah. Clearly. Right? I would not get my ass kicked by angry parents, so I'm not going to do that.

No, I would, yeah, I would beat the shit out of anybody who touched my kid, for sure. Yeah. Well, all right. Well, with that, it seems like a good place to end. All right. So I guess we're going to be revisiting the schedule thing,

But we'll talk about that offline. And we'll let you guys know what we came up with. But yeah, that seems to be the direction we're going to go. I think, what do you think? We'll make the second hour of Q&A, right? So the Q&A aspect won't be gone. A lot of people like the Q&A. Yeah, we can keep it as Q&A.

Yeah. And by the way, it doesn't. If like we're flexible, we can do what we want, right? People are like, oh, we really want to talk about, you know, this development. Look, me, the Q&A. And not calling. the video, a Q&A is going to do better for the video. That's all.

We will do that then. At that point, it's just going to be a regular show that goes for two hours as opposed to a separate thing. I think I'll do better. I promise. Well, I can't promise. Obviously,

I can't see the future. I'll hold you to it. Right. Right. But you said, this motherfucker, this better be it. God damn it.

Yeah. All right. So, cool. We're good then for today. We'll be back tomorrow, 9 a.m. Eastern time.

TMI will be back tomorrow at 10 a.m. Eastern time. and thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll see you guys later. Bye, Jamar. Have a good one, Ted. Have a good one, guys.