DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - Q&A: Loomer Luvs Zelensky, Freemasons, Eminent Domain, and More | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Episode Date: July 27, 2026

On today's "Ask Us Anything" Q&A Show—we do them Mondays and Wednesdays at 9 AM Eastern time, live—Ted, Jamarl and Robby answered your questions about:Robby denies being a communist but advocates nationalizing corporations like BlackRock and utilities as monopolies, arguing free markets fail and create oligarchies; essential services need government control for fairness.Montana property taxes rise with gentrification from out-of-state buyers, forcing locals to sell ancestral homes; discussed as socialistic yet flawed, unlike pure free-market ownership without state seizure.Debates tax fairness: sales taxes regressive (hit poor harder), income taxes preferred if simplified/graduated, property taxes indiscriminate; tithes and government funding compared.Freemason 33-degree conspiracies linked to Kabbalah, numerology, Great Architect, UFO/cult theories, and elite groups like Yale; limited knowledge shared.Predictions on crises (oil spikes, Iran escalation, AI bubble, false flags) hard; already in inflation crisis since COVID with 40%+ price rises vs. stagnant wages.Zohran Mamdani’s early NYC mayoralty shows no major quality-of-life changes yet; past mayors like Bloomberg improved bureaucracy via 311; hopes for competence.Proposal to seize empty NYC buildings via eminent domain for homeless shelters, funding via NGOs/tax breaks or volunteers; practical challenges like lawsuits and costs noted.West Bank tensions: Farouk Ramadan killed defending against settlers/IDF; framed as self-defense vs. Hasbara “terrorist” spin; hypocrisy and lack of consequences criticized.Man arrested at Houston airport for wiping phone (duress password) under “obstruction”; viewed as rights violation, no underlying crime; burner phones and resistance advised.Laura Loomer meeting Zelensky signals Trumpers shifting pro-Ukraine war; dual wars (Ukraine/Iran) seen as one U.S.-backed conflict; loyalty and hypocrisy debated. LIVE ON RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShow https://x.com/tedrall https://x.com/JamarlThomas #tedrall #jamarlthomas #news #politics

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That's jasee.com to learn more and save on peace of mind. Oh, it's the Allergyid edition of the Q&A episode of Deep Program with Ted Rall and Jamarle Thomas. It is 12 noon on Monday, July 27th, 2026. Thank you so much for tuning in to the Q&A. Ask Us Anything Edition. for if you're new to it or even if you just need a reminder because you're suffering from early onset senility. It doesn't matter.

What we do here is Mondays and Wednesdays. We supplement the normal Monday through Friday 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. Eastern show with a Q&A show that goes on for about an hour. And basically, it's total open mic. We talk about anything and anything and anyone. and we just basically have a good time, and we ask you to join the party. Please go ahead and sign in. If you're watching live on YouTube or Rumble,

join the chat. Producer Robbie, we'll take your questions and post them up to us. You can ask a question for any one of us or all of us or two of us or whatever you want. You can make a comment. You can rant. You know, basically it's whatever you want to do here.

We also have the ability to take a voice caller on Rumble. So there is a post in the live chat on Rumble, which has a link to it. If you want to call, you can call and talk to us. I will tell the, if someone calls, I will give the rules before we put you on the air. We haven't had any calls lately, so I'm not going to bother people with rules that they may not have to actually follow. Okay. What do we got here? Do we have, let me put Robbie on here.

Do we have any questions yet? Not yet. People are trickling in, but no, there are no questions currently. Okay. Someone did have a question at the end of the program. Someone asked if I was now a communist. Oh, okay. Why don't you go ahead and answer that?

And remember yesterday, I think I sent us, there was a guy who emailed me, yes, and I posted that. Did I send that to you or did I send that to? Yeah, you said that to me. All right, so we should, like, answer his question, too. But anyway, Robbie, go ahead. Are you a kami? Is your mommy a commie? Are there reds under your bed?

We can do this all day. No, I am not a commie. Let me see. Are people, let me see. So, boomsticks, I can't see the stream on Rumble anywhere, but EFU just did a $1 rant on Rumble. So it's obviously up. I'm not sure what's gone there.

Just go to Rumble, do a refresh. I'll just drop the... I'm going to do that for you right now. Here we go. I'm not... Oh, I'm not seeing us on Rumble either. Yeah, I'm looking at us. Let me see if I can add the Rumble stream.

That's very strange. Rumble is quirky. Oh, it's for some reason that it has the title of This Morning Show on there. Yeah, but it's also... We have two live streams on Rumble, both of whom with... Yeah, very strange. That's awesome. Well, I don't know this one's live.

I have never sure how that works. Maybe we didn't kill the previous one. We killed it. We killed it. Oh, I see people in the chat. Okay, I see this one. Okay, so this one is, okay, let me just make sure. We don't want to kill the wrong one.

Okay, we've got two. Okay, so the top one is, it's usually the top one. That's the good one. Yeah, no, we've got. 13 people watch the bottom one. I'm going to kill the bottom one. Kill the bottom one. Kill it. You got you got to go. Although what's weird about that is, okay, well, I'm not killing the bottom one. That's just tomorrow. All right, I'm changing the data. Go ahead and I'll take care of all this. Go ahead and answer that question.

You're not killing the one. That's Jamal. I don't even understand. What's wrong? Just showing one of my old. that shouldn't show up into program now. I don't know what's happening. Okay. Go ahead, Robbie. I'm taking care of this on this end.

Okay, that sounds good. Now, to answer, I am not a communist. That being said, I'm also not the kind of person that thinks that the free market is the end, all, the savior of humanity, and that there has to be a refugee, not a refugee, that has to be a referee, and there has to be rules. or else what happens at you just get what we get right now. Like, for example, I don't think corporations should be a thing. I just, I think they get too much power. I think that they just allow a collection of wealth.

And if you have a representative of a system of government, then that just lets you just buy politicians. And then you get a kleptocracy and that becomes an oligarchy. And then you get what we have right now. So like Black Rocks should be seized. It should be nationalized. It should be broken up. all utilities should be seized and nationalized because there's no competition there anyway.

It's not like there's three or four different power companies that you're able to, you know, shop around for to get the best electric rate. It's all, it's already a monopoly. So if that's the case, then the government should just take control of it, that should own it. And then instead of paying a monthly bill, what the government should do is then send you, since you own the government, at least in theory, you should get a dividend. the way it should do as a as a as a as a taxpayer based on all that you have so i don't know i don't know if that's a communist position well it has a lot of socialists it was sarah palan's

position in alaska i mean it's just what we have right now does not work and the free market is not god um no clearly clearly not i mean i guess the This is kind of like, I think within the context of a capitalist system without a state-owned economy, you know, this is my socialistic sort of fallback position. I would prefer communism. But, you know, I think at least within the constructs of the system we have, anything that's really an essential service, right, which is what you're basically talking about, should be, you know, and politics is about arguing about things like, is this or that an essential service. I mean, I think we can all agree that things like healthcare are an essential service, because without it, you're not, you know, alive. But, you know, the other question is, is public safety an important, you know, a vital public service, firefighting, schools, transportation, you know, communications. I would argue all of those are included there.

You know, is, you know, is, are the arts. That one's more subjective, I would say to some extent. Yeah, it's a vital essential. But the point is we can argue about what those are. I think things necessary to functioning in our society as it currently stands qualify. Agreed. And by the way, for people who are screaming entitlements, entitlements, there's nothing wrong with entitlements. I mean, think of it like in your everyday life.

There are things that are not entirely required, but you pay for because there's something that you care about, that you're willing to carry the cost as part of your typical expenses. And I'm saying the state is the same way. If the state delineates health care as being a necessary function for the society to function, okay, then they can prioritize that without you having to pay a billion dollars just for basic health care. like we can this can be different agree and it doesn't make you a kami to think that well i was talking about you make sure to come me robie no i was talking about people here in the valley being priced out the one of the things we do on the last saturday of every month

is a bunch of people from the church will go we'll hang out door hangers on people's houses to invite them to come to church called share the faith saturday and this one guy was talking to He lives off of Helena Flats Road here in town. He lives in a house that his grandfather built him, built in the early 1900s. He's having to sell it because he can't pay the property tax. And he's being forced out. He's having to move from his ancestral home. He grew up in that house.

He's being pushed out because there's new developments all the way around him from rich out of state, from California, pushing up the property taxes and the locals are being pushed out. And I brought it up to the pastor. He's just like, yeah, well, that's just the price of the free market. I said, no, it's not because you don't own your house. If you don't pay taxes, what happens? The state takes your house. They take it from you.

You don't own it. You own a mortgage. That's it. A fairer way to do this would be the estate would own that land. You're not paying. I mean, you're already paying income tax anyway. Why would you pay additional tax on top of income that you've been taxed on? It is yours.

And then you're able to pass it down. That's not federal or is it federal? No, property tax is always local. Yeah, state tax. I mean, the state owned, I mean. No, it's not state. It's the state in that sort of anarchist sounds. Oh, you mean like Richmond, for example.

It's a city. It's a city. Okay. Yeah. City tax. Might be a county in some cases in an unincorporated area. But yeah. Well, it depends on like No, Zula.

Like No, Buzula, they have a city income, they have a city property tax. And then there's a state property tax because here in Montana, there's no sales tax, which is really nice. But the problem is, though, is that people who don't make $100,000 a year, they're being pushed out because the property taxes are going up, because the property values are going up, because inflation is going up, but wages aren't. And these people are losing their homes. And when I made that argument, just like, that sounds awfully communist to me, Robbie. I said, well, whatever is it you want. but the state is stealing this man's home.

Yeah, I mean, look, here's the thing. This is like, it's not even a political discussion at this point, right? I mean, property tax is a somewhat socialistic thing, actually, right? Because it's predicated on the idea that people who own property are better off than people who rent property, right? And so it's kind of like a privilege. It's like, well, y'all can afford to pay property taxes. And so what's the threat? The threat is if you don't pay, even though you own your house, free and clear, you don't

own the bank anything, the city can still, like in House of Wind and Fogg, take away your house if you fail to pay that property tax. I mean, that's a free market actually wouldn't have property tax, right? I mean, in a free market, your property, you own your property. no one could take it from you under any circumstance, period, right? The state could not take it. This is an example of a somewhat socialistic tax, actually. Yeah.

I mean, the problem with it is it's somewhat of a dumb tax. It needs to take into account the people who, like meaning if I get land, for example, because someone died, that doesn't mean I'm bawling. And whatever law has to be able to accommodate the fact that I'm not bawling despite the fact that I, happenstance end up owning this land. Because it'll be just like the Robbie case, right? It's like, okay, I need $25,000 to pay for so-and-so. I don't have $25,000, despite the law assuming that I do because I own this property.

No, it can't be a dumb law. It has any sense. No, I agree. It's a dumb law in the same use as dumb bomb versus smart bomb, right? It's like indiscriminate. It doesn't. It's like it should be needs tested. I mean, I certainly do believe that there's no problem taxing someone who has a $20 million

luxury apartment in Midtown Manhattan. That person should, although I'm not really sure that we need to get their taxes from that. But, you know, maybe at the point, I don't have a problem with it. But yeah, the situation that you describe, that's ridiculous. A dude who is going to have to sell in order to, because. He had the misfortune of his property value increasing. Because inflation. Wrong.

And on top of that, after you sell, after he sells the home that he grew up him, he's didn't have to pay tax on gains, capital gains, because you're selling property. Well, no, he won't. And an income tax on top of it. No, he won't. So he's, no, he won't. Because he's not going to have millions of dollars in, in capital gains. He can sell it.

If you sell your house and you don't, you're not, you know, you don't sell it for $10 million, dollars not paying capital gains on it well because he's only going to he'll sell the house and he'll and here's the thing right it's not like he's going to die he lives in what's happened to him is that the property values have increased dramatically due to gentrification in his area so therefore he's going to sell it a massive profit and get a windfall he's going to have to move into a smaller place where he lives now or he's going to have to move out to some place that's cheaper and I'm saying he shouldn't have to do that, okay? But the point is he's not going to die.

It still sucks, and I'm still on his side. But you know what I mean? Like he's not going to die. The government is stealing his home, and they are going to then force him to pay a tax from selling the land that he grew up on to the people who stole the land from him in the first place. That is theft, and that's the problem with the capitalist system we currently have. And it needs to be replaced. Well, but like Ted said, that's more of a socialistic thing.

It's a socialistic thing gone wrong, right? I mean, and that can happen. I think it's important as a socialist here to say socialists can and do fuck up and make mistakes because they're human beings, right? And so, like, if anyone wants to look at the record of really existing socialism and point to mistakes, oh, there's zillions of them for sure. The problem is that when socialism has an injustice, that's a mistake. It's not supposed to happen. When capitalism makes an injustice, that's a feature. That's supposed to happen.

That's my problem with capitalism. Yeah. Yeah. It's the company, like I think at some point as a world, hopefully, we're going to realize that the issue is competition versus cooperation. Like the competition by definition escalates. it forces you to escalate. It forces you to do something different,

which is not necessarily bad, but it becomes bad when it becomes counterproductive to the system itself, meaning the war starts to rage with the levers of the system itself being used as part of the war, if that makes sense. Like, say, for example, Democrats and Republicans get into a fight,

and then one party believes, well, hey, if we can flood the countries with people who are not from here, but somehow get them to vote. Okay, well, whether that's happening or not, that's outrageous. But you can imagine a party doing that. That's what they always accuse Democrats of effectively doing. Okay, you're going around the rules of the system in order to rig yourself into it.

Or when you get jury rigging, for example, or like all of these things are a system that sorts to eat itself. There has to be a better way to do it unless it just is always this boom and bust. boom and bust is intrinsic to capitalism though i mean i would much other have a national sales tax than a property tax or a income tax don't penalize me for how hard i work and so let me pay a tax based on what is that i buy but the proper my problem is it's that's so regressive ravi right i mean because like like everybody whether they're bill gates or ted ral or robbie west all have to pay for a gallon of milk. And you're taxing all of us the same exact amount of money on that, even though, you know,

that tax represents such a radically different percentage of our incomes or our assets. That just seems terrible. I mean, if everybody was spending every cent that they earned, then it would be fair. Poor people spend every cent that they earn and then some and go into debt. Middle class people spend close to everything that they earn. rich people spend only a tiny fraction of what they earn and they're only so therefore they're paying tax only a small number of taxes on sales and use tax that's what I hate about it but rich people right now don't pay income tax to have shelters everything else a lot of times that they'll do is that those

like Ted you're a banker you know this especially have a big poor big stock portfolio you don't spend your income you borrow against your assets that's not income you pay nothing we're already Perry, we're already carrying that burden. Well, I would rather have an enforced income tax that's graduated without a bunch of like complicated deductions like we currently have. You know, I mean, our system now is, I mean, every time I do my taxes, it takes like a whole day or two of my life every year. I think I'm a Republican. I want flat tax, but I don't really want a flat tax. I want a simple tax, a tax that you could just be like, I mean, I don't think, you know, I don't think it's germane that I have to sit there and like play games like,

oh, I went on a trip to Montana. Can I deduct that trip because I did see Robbie and he's my producer? So that's work related. But we also hung out and had a good time. So that was also like entertainment. Oh, I'm going to deduct it and hope for the best and hope I don't get audited. It's ridiculous. I mean, I should just be taxed on my, my income. No, it's crazy. No, God has a 10% tithe. By the way, where does that come from, by the way? Do we know? It's not in the Bible, is it? Yeah, it is. It's 10%. Yes, 10%. It's, so when Lott, after the Battle of the Five Kings, when Lott was captured, Abraham raised in militia, went and rescued his nephew, and he paid a tithe to a priest named

Mikizek. A tithe is a form of worship, and it was 10%. If he was a form of worship, and it was 10%. If 10% is good enough for God. It should be good enough for government. Well, government, but God can smite countries for free. We have to use bombs. Yeah, he can't. But you know what? If you starve the government, it can't make as many bombs. True.

Can't pay for the population either. I suspect that's what the tab came in. They needed money. Basically, you don't have a government if you don't have taxes. Yeah, the religious authorities were the closest thing to a useful government that those people had. Yeah, for sure. I mean, God's not an anarchist. government is a second institution he invented after marriage. I don't know if God invented.

Whatever. That's right. System of the judges. All right. We have questions. That's what we're here for. All right, here we go. Ben Queen.

Hey, guys, longtime listener, first time chatter here. I want to say thanks to Robbie for cutting the five minutes intro, waiting music from the audio-only podcast on this morning's podcast. Okay, I apologize. That's not a Robbie thing. and it's going to be back tomorrow. Just look, just don't tune in at 8.55, and this won't be an issue for you. Tune in at 9 o'clock sharp Eastern time,

and you won't have to sit through the music. Okay, I apologize for that. If you're streaming later, I always cut that, and that should be okay. But, yeah, anyway. Okay, although I think there's, yeah, anyway, all right, I'm not going to get into that. Okay.

Know anything, F you so, thanks for the dollar, know anything about 33 degree free masons and the conspiracies about them? I've never heard of 33 degrees. I mean, there's so many conspiracy theories about free masons. Yes. Like, I don't know. Like, they're just littered with them. That they're into the UFO thing, that they're into cults,

that the presidents come from particular groups like Yale or something to that effect, which is true, by the way, they want to be true. Yeah, there's so many. I don't know the degree of 33 degree. Yeah, I don't know about the degrees. It is, you know, Freemasonry is tied into the Kabbalah, which comes out of the Babylonian Talmud, which is basically numerology.

So each letter has a numeric value, and then you're able to kind of just, you can use divination and figure out what's supposed to happen, that kind of thing. And they also worship this being called the great architect, who or what, that is I have my own opinion I love it but great architect yeah that's what they call it I love it great architect in this guy oh he's the president

the Madonna thing right Cabbal Kabbala you mean from Iran the book or the the no I mean the the religion oh it's part of Judaism yeah yeah but Madonna I think is is she does that That's she? Oh, a lot of people do. Yeah, and typically you can see a Kabbalist because they wear, a lot of them will wear like a special kind of bracelet with a numerical value on it. And it's really big and like a Hobad Lubavich. They do a lot of Kabbalah.

Huh. I'm sure you're not that into that. I just don't know enough about it. Like, I don't know about it one way or the other, to be honest. All right. Let's, uh, so I, okay, I guess we're not getting a lot of satisfaction on that question. Um, okay, so actually I am going to, I do think that, um, I can edit out the, the opening music on the MP3s. So I'll see if I can do that starting tomorrow. So thank you for that. That's good thing. Steven, um, de-program Q&As and TMI be put on YouTube music at some point.

Um, I try to listen as often as possible in having access to the shows on YouTube. music would be cool. The Q&As always go on YouTube music. So we do that. Yeah, that's the MP3s. The TMI show, I guess that would have been Manila's job to put it on there. But you know what? I could start doing that too. So I will do that. I guess the thing is I'd have to put that in through the TMI through the D program channel. So guys, we should talk about that and see if that would be a problem for any reason, logistically? I don't see why I would be. Okay.

Hey, guys, wanted your input on how long do you think we have before things go haywire, whether it's an oil crisis or a major escalation in Iran causing a more widespread conflict? Like, I don't know, Ukraine attacked Iran, let's say, has happened over the weekend. That's a tough one. I mean, I don't know who, I mean, there have been some people who've been making predictions for the last five years that have gotten it wrong. predictions are hard, especially when it's in the context of something that can go haywire.

And there are many things. I mean, the AI bubble is one that could go belly up. The oil thing can go through the roof, even though Donald Trump seems to be manipulating the markets currently. It can be a few things, but it's hard to know any one particular thing. I mean, hell, it could even be some kind of escalation that takes place like a false flag in Europe, in which case they start revving up this idea of war. what's true doesn't it matters but not almost entirely from the standpoint of the way to use political rhetoric that's a hard one that i'm not even going to venture to give a guess on that because there could be

four or five different things that can go wrong that will create a let's say a crisis but if you guys have a better answer let me know no i i agree with that robbie what do you think i think it's already going heywire we're just in the middle of it so it was like no we're the frog in the pot we're already there. So, I mean, if you go, if you, if you look at the, if you look at the cost of prices, I would say 2021 and then compare that cost with what's going on today, that is an existential threat. But the problem is that people, what we don't, we don't do a good job with reflecting what, what a trend was, what a price was five years ago versus what it was a year ago. So the government says like, well, you know, inflation, no, first of all, inflation is not an increase of price,

increase of prices were a result of inflation. It's like, no, prices only go up like two or three percent every year, but they went up over 40 percent before, since COVID, and wages haven't. So we're already in the crisis. It's just we're not paying attention. Yeah. Good point. Very good point.

Yeah, and I'm with J.T. I think it's sort of like, we're just along. This is like, it's like surfing. We're along for the ride. We'll see what happens. That's all. Okay. To hear Balge, Ted is a New Yorker,

do you feel any changes due to Mamdani in quality of life? No, not really. New York goes on. I mean, you know, look, Eric Adams was a shit mayor. It wasn't any worse under him than it was under de Blasio, than it was under Bloomberg. I mean, every now and then you get a mayor who really does have a meaningful impact on quality of life in New York. Bloomberg was really a big deal. First of all, he had three terms,

but he instituted a 3-1-1 system to make the city bureaucracy a lot more, a lot easier to navigate. When I moved to New York in the 80s, we had to buy something called the Green Book as a New Yorker that had the phone numbers for every city agency so that if you had to navigate the city, like you got a ticket for dumping your trash and, like, you got a ticket for dumping your trash in the corner instead of where it was supposed to be. And like, you know, you want to challenge the ticket. Here's the phone number to call to talk to the right clerk. All that's eliminated.

Now you just call it like you call 311. It's like anything from a noise complaint to whatever, anything that's not an emergency you call 311 and they send you to the right place. It's fantastic. That's a Bloomberg thing. There's lots of stuff like that that he did. Giuliani paved a lot of streets so people stopped having their axles break on potholes and stuff. That was a big deal.

Mamdani hasn't been in there long enough to see anything really meaningful happen. I mean, he gets blamed on social media for things like, you know, rental bikes, not working right. But, you know, that's run by a private company. It's run by Lyft. It's nothing to do with them. It's not fucking ridiculous. So, no, I mean, we're not going to know. He did have one big snowstorm to deal with when he first came in.

And the snowplows ended up where they needed to be. So, I mean, so far so good. I'd say. We'll see. God, man, I hope he's A, remains competent and B does a good job. Because he's taken, like, how he goes is going to be how the left is categorized. I mean, Grant, they're going to call a communist anyway. No matter what.

Yeah, but if he does good for New York. Yeah, you want him to be remembered as a sewer socialist, as the term goes back from 100 years ago, people who cared about the sewer socialists, who were elected to local office, and cared about local things like the source. sewers. Do you know what I would do if I would sell them? All those empty, all those empty buildings in the city, I would seize them and I would convert them into shelters and people who are homeless, people who are sick, people who have no safety debt, I would put them all up there and landlords can go straight to hill, they'd have a problem with it. Yeah, that

couldn't agree more. I mean, you know, these... Why wouldn't you do it? Well, I mean, I'll tell you the one main opposition to it is the fact that, like, you know, you would then have all sorts of expenses, right? You already have a budget crisis. So if you seize a building, first of all, the owner is probably going to sue you, so you have to fight them in court. That's money. And all those renovations, you might have gotten the property for free, but all those renovations and changes are expensive. And as we saw with the Pfizer building collapse, partial collapse, you know, you can have problems too. If you don't want to ask, the one I ask people to volunteer. I mean, listen, if you're taking, if you're taking these properties and the entire point

is to make the city better, then what you could do is ask the people to the city, hey, this is what we're doing, but I need your help. I need y'all to step up, put your, put your money where your mouth is. Let's do this thing together. And I'm in that the whole point. There's other ways to do it too, right? Like turn it up, turn some of these properties over to NGOs and, uh, and, and 501c3 entities and say like we will you know give you a big tax break if you guys pick up the tab here's a free building you know um you guys go wild you can then fund you know then they can fundraise and say hey listen the city of new york gave us this building now we need you guys to cough up the money so we can put in this shelter yeah i would do i would do a lot of that i'm not like you have to

pay for those buildings so right like meaning he can just seize it without compensating the owner for the building or or getting that one no abandoned building can totally be seized. That's what eminent domain is for. No, no, no. I'm not saying they can't be seized. I'm asking would they have to pay the owner for those buildings? Like, let's say, for example. Fair market value. Yeah. Okay. But of course, you can determine what fair market value is. And if a place is a dump that's been like it's rat infested, fair market value is low, right? Right. So. No, I don't, I'm not against this. I guess sketches, how do you pull it off? I mean, but yeah, this is the audacious thing

that I think all of us kind of actually want. Well, Trump's already shown us how you do it. You just do it. You just do it. Yeah. Deal with the consequences later. Yeah. Agreed.

Okay, let's see. Hey, guys, did you catch the weekend tensions rising in the West Bank? A man named Faruk Ramadan was killed after defending himself against armed civilians and IDF members. Any thoughts? I'm really glad this came up. Are you guys familiar with the story? Yeah, I am. And by the way, they do that all the time where the settlers would effectively be backed by the military.

So it's like you provoke a fight in order to take somebody's house to rape somebody's daughter or help rape somebody's son or steal some land or steal something from the person. And then the military is just standing right there. So anything that you're doing reprisal, the military effectively gets involved, while the state will be like, what do you mean? This is just settlers. We don't have anything to do with us, despite the fact that the military is intimately involved. in the process. It's outrageous. I've spoken to people who had that, who were just beating up the previous day and they are living through hell. That's an understatement what they're living through. Yeah. No. So yeah, I mean, this story, it's interesting because maybe in anticipation of people

like us talking about it, the Hasbara people online have been framing this as an as a Palestinian terrorist attack on poor, innocent Israelis. And basically, I mean, it's not working anymore because nobody believes anything that the Hasbro-Id-F, you know, Zionist apologists have to say anymore. But it would have worked 10 years ago. And basically they say, oh, this guy was attacked. These guys were attacked in this settlement, in this city, in this village called blah, blah, blah. And it's like, wait a minute.

Where is that village? Oh, it's in the West Bank. oh, actually these people were coming to attack the Palestinians. Actually, he was defending himself. And so it doesn't fly anymore. And I think that's to me the big story here is the fact that, like, you know, you Israelis, you have played all your cards with American public opinion. And I guess there's going to be like a small percentage of people who still buy what Israel has to sell.

but man, that number is like vanishingly small and it's only going to shrink further. Yeah, but see, I think true, agreed with everything you just said. I think my concern is that even though what you just said is true, there's still no consequences to what they're doing. I'm sorry, I had to take a medication for nausea.

It's making me... Oh, shit. You're right? Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. Okay, cool. It was just some of issues, But I'm just explaining why I might be a little off. Look, the reality of it is, I think what bugs me more than anything else is everything you just said is true.

So the majority of the, it's kind of like Trump's war. They did a recent polling on it. And you got like 19%. I think it was like 90%. That was like the U.S. is totally winning the war. And the U.S. is doing great. And it's like, who are these 19%. The catch is, in this case, though, you're going to get a small percentage, as you pointed out, that still takes the Israeli line.

I mean, they were killed in the World War II. And so we have to allow them to murder, rate pillage, and everything else. But the catch becomes, what is the consequence for it? So it's like, yeah, you get a changing in consciousness from the standpoint of the public that recognizes, okay, they're lying through their teeth. They're killing and creating mayhem and causing all sorts of trauma to regular people who are in the West Bank. But where's the consequence for it? Meaning, we know that they slaughter. I think it was like four people, if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, but there's no consequences for them doing that. And I think that's the, to me, that's the part that has always blown my mind because that flies so far in the face of what we deal with on an everyday basis. On everyday basis as a human being, usually there are consequences for your behavior and the worst, the behavior, the worst, the consequence. That's not true in Israel, and it's damn sure not true in the West Bank. No.

The hypocrisy is outstanding. I mean, you know, the media was all over the Islamist attack on that gay pride parade in Berlin. Like, oh, it's so terrible, you know, and it's just, you know, and then you have people talk about no immigration, rightly so. Because, I mean, if you import this kind of stuff, don't be surprised when this kind of stuff happens. The flip side, though, the fact that the exact same thing is happening in the West Bank,

you have foreigners who are coming in, killing this Palestinian, who's defending his home, who's defending his people, but he shouldn't be there. Yeah. So on the one hand, it's okay. And on the other hand, it's wrong. But it's the exact same problem. It's a dude who shouldn't even be there killing people who are indigenous to the area. True.

And the hypocrisy is outstanding. Yeah. Yeah. you are correct sir you are correct true very true all right let's do let's do some more if you say thanks for the dollar suggestion reading suggestion for you robbie read democracy ink by dr shelden wall and that's w-o-l-i-n will do i like to read okay um okay uh victor brown Ted, made a mistake. Tell me about your cat, not your car.

A typo. Do you all consider yourselves intellectuals? Well, I don't know what you want to know about my cat slash car. I don't remember. Well, I mean, he's eight years old. He's a Russian blue. He's eight years old. Oh, wow.

He goes, he's inside outside. He killed a bird two days ago. you know, and you have to pretend like you're not disgusted when they do that. Otherwise, it hurts their little brains if you claim to, if you don't like it. Seriously? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you have to be like, that's a good kitty, cutie, good job. Inside you're like vomiting.

But like. But doesn't that incentivize the cat to keep killing birds and bringing him home since his master likes the birds that he killed? But it's, it's, yeah, but that's dog brain. Like, cat brain is like basically the. you're there like kittens and you're their parents and you're teaching them and they need to it's true to their nature I mean a cat is a hunter it has to kill you know so you're not you don't want to dissuade it from doing it's sort of like I don't know it's like it's like raising a boy and having him wear a dress I mean it's like you're going against his nature right why you're being

transphobic Ted I would say that that would be bad parenting right you're a only your inner Robbie, I love it. I knew you're going to say that. But you know what I mean? Like you want to be like dogs have to be able. Like I had a friend, her father had an Afghan, one of those dogs with a long, long legs. And he kept the dogs like chained in like a tiny fence. And I was like, these dogs run like hundreds of miles.

Like these are not supposed to be chate. And then sure enough, there were two of them. They got out. She lived in Princeton, New Jersey. And three hours later, they were found at the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel, dodging traffic. I mean, that's far. Dogs were hauled ass across Jersey. That sounds about right.

Yeah, I've only ever raised dogs. I mean, in fact, my dog, so, you know, the dogs are with the wife. And to this day, I regret not getting Apollo. But I didn't get him because I assumed that she allowed me to see them at some point. And that wasn't necessarily. What kind of dogs? So both are pit bull mix. Apollo was a rescue.

He had a broken leg. He was from like South Korea or somewhere. He was an immigrant. Broken leg. I mean, I'm sorry, Pitsu. Pitsu was a little asshole. We had Pizu actually over this way in. in Richmond. And so we've had both for years. I mean, Pitsu is, oh, geez, eight years old or nine

years old. I mean, we got him like at the very beginning of the relationship. And so we literally raised him as a puppy. We raised Apollo as a puppy too. So, yeah, it's very weird not being able to see him. But yeah, they're raised differently. Like for dogs, you have to be like, no. And don't do this. Yeah, yeah. With a cat, it'll literally, like, you're kind of breaking its brain. to do that. Like if a cat like shit's in the wrong place or whatever there's nothing to do.

Now like with birds it's the op like apparently I've never had well I have had birds but I've never had like big big ones but my understanding is if they fuck something up you have to you have to not say a word if you get pissed

it's like a reward for them because it's like they're bored and anything that's exciting is like It makes them very happy. So if you're like screaming like, you asshole, I can't believe you did that. They're like, whirr! This is great!

They're just doing more and more. So you have to be like sort of flat affect, like, I don't even care. And like don't even react to it and wait for the bird to be out of the room and then clean it up. No, dogs, yeah, I love, yeah, I love those dogs. I love those dogs. And then my wife got this off because I asked about the dogs and never asks about her. apparently that's one of the thing she's pissed off by would you get another dog see that's the rub right i want to be able to take care of the dog and my concern is on days that

i'm not feeling well or something like that it's that part it's like it's the worst of days that my concern is about getting a dog but so i don't know i play by ear all right fair okay uh Okay, Nathaniel, how are the Canadian wildfires these days? I've had one out where I live in Scotland, only 50 miles from my home. Wow. Right now, things are slightly hazy, but it's pretty, it's okay. How about for you? It's okay, because Trump can wreck them, like to buy his business.

He's going to tariff them to death. He's going to tear a candidate is another asshole. That's the funniest thing in the world to me. Donald Trump goes, like, he gives them. them so much shit that it's just hilarious. It's such a loose. And it's like they don't know what to do, right? Because in normal circumstances, you get like an Obama or Joe Biden or somebody like that who's very,

even though that's obvious power differential between the two, they pretend as if we're equals. Trump just doesn't seem to care and you know, they're going to pay us for this. Not even a little bit. The smoke here is bad now. Is it? Oh yeah. Really? Lots of it.

Okay. And we have a valley inversion. So all the smoke has been pushed out to the valley. So I can get out. So it's kind of like living in Beijing in the 1980s. That's not good. Hit me flavored air. All right.

So we have, I love this question. I mean, we've got really good questions today. But they're always good. But I love these. So, Hector, hello. What are your thoughts? on the guy who got arrested for wiping his phone when detained by agents at the airport. Have you guys heard about this?

He wiped his phone. Oh, you mean, like clearing it out, like deleting everything in his phone. Yeah, you erased it. So what happened is I didn't know this existed. And now that I do know it exists, that exists, I will avail myself of this. So this guy's not an American. He was visiting the United States. He crossed it, entered the airport.

I don't know which airport. It doesn't matter. the border and customs enforcement guys said turn over give us we want to see your phone and please enter your password or give us your password he said okay he had a duress passport password and so you know basically it was like f-u ck y-o-o-u and went and fried his phone right and erased it completely i'm like oh i'm totally doing that i didn't know that was even that sounds great that sounds so good And so they arrested him What charge?

What did he do? Obstruction of justice is what they got him for. What crime did he know what justice is? The justice is an indication that something was being obstructed. What did he do? Well, what he did is like he was breathing air. And as a result, he had to turn over his property to be inspected. In which case, he's just like, okay, here you go.

I don't blame him. You can have the phone, but not my data. Yeah, blow me. Yeah, 100% they're out there with her. It's like, I mean, I mean,

out of their minds? Yeah, like I know that this is the stuff that they've been pulling these days, but I don't blame that guy. In fact, that guy was right. If anything,

I'd have a burner full. Yeah. Yeah, well, totally. Obstruction of justice to me is where you're, and I have to look up the legal definition, but my understanding is that obstruction of justice

is when an investigation or something, like that is underway and you intercede. So, for example, they've been using these clause, ICE has been using obstruction of justice to arrest protesters who basically are following them and annoying them and blowing whistles. And they're like, but all these cases get thrown out of court when they're challenged because that's not obstruction of justice, right?

And you have a right. Obstruction of justice is like, you have a trial. And the mayor calls up a juror and says like, you know, hey, change your vote that's obstruction of justice yeah so basically what they did is it looked like and i could be wrong on this but i was really over on the weekend so basically originally got him for destroying evidence which my question is destroying evidence for what crime there's no there's no inquiry there's no criminal inquiry here and then they then they're also looking at at obstruction of justice because he destroyed evidence therefore obstructing the the justice system

which my whole thing is again what have you done i hope he's sues because he will win. Not just I hope he sues. And they do this in order to intimidate. That's what they're doing. I mean, it's like, dude, what crime did I commit? For one, the people who are out there are filming cops. You have every right

to do that. A hundred percent. It's the most American thing you can do. Yes, that's not illegal for you to do that. They may harass you and everything else, but you're not doing anything illegal. I mean, don't get me wrong. Don't jump into the middle of the investigation. Don't jump it to the middle of a car that's

threat of something crazy. But for all of this purposes, videotaping is fine. Usually the whole, as you point out, the obstruction of justice thing. It's like, I have a bag of weed in my pocket. You've stopped me. I've seen inebriated. And I take the bag of weed and toss it somewhere. Okay, well, at that point, an investigation is inactive. They smelled weed or alcohol on the person. They're pursuing the thing. Meaning, it's that, right, where an investigation has started. the guy didn't do anything. Here's the thing, right? Obstruction of justice means deleting or burning, hiding, files, whatever, needed for a case.

But there's no case. This man is just coming to take pictures of the Statue of Liberty, right? I mean, he's not, he's a tourist. There's no case. He's just entering the country. Because he didn't want them going through his phone, which I don't, and most people who are saying, wouldn't either. Your phone is your,

is the extension of your home, just like your car is. I think it is. Yeah, agree. Yeah, I would strongly encourage anyone to do the same. Burner phone. Yeah, that or burner phone. Because with a burner phone, they can't even, you know, it's like, here, have that it. Yeah.

Enjoy my two phone numbers. Yeah. And, you know, they also, another thing that they do, right, they say, like, give us your, give us your password. they drain your phone. They take everything, right, if you do that. And give us your password and then you can be on your way. Otherwise, we'll detain you.

People need to fucking grow some balls and say, fuck you. I'm not going anywhere. I'm right here. One of the things I learned, I've been detained by corrupt police officers and border guards all over the world, right? And one of the things that I figured out is they're scaring you. You don't want to be there because, you know, they could hurt you.

you're being inconvenience and you're tired and you're hungry and you want to shower. I get all that. But what you have to understand is you're also an annoyance to them. Like until they either execute you or let you go, you're kind of a pain in their ass. They can't go anywhere either. They can't kick off for lunch or take a break or call it a day. And if they keep you for a long time, there's going to be a lot of questions to answer and maybe a lawsuit. So it's a bluff.

It's a game of chicken. And if you understand that and just like, yeah, I'm not, yeah, I'm not in no, I'm in no rush. I just flew 12 hours today and it was like four hours to the airport. I got all the time in the fucking, you know, like have at it fuckers, but I am not giving you my code. Yeah. Yeah, if people start doing that, they will fucking stop fucking with people. Yeah. They've gotten so accustomed to people just kind of acquies it.

that they think it's you know normal which is what people do by the way that's like i don't want to deal with this yeah someone asked where he was from so he was uh it was at the houston airport and he was traveling here from nicaragua his name is boomer i'm gonna bush list last name wilmer chavaria so i could so the airport in tec country is trash and those people who work at that airport are horrible. The only place that I've ever actually ran in the issue with cops was Texas airport. I was coming back from Panama. I had been in Panama for, I think, three days. It was just a short trip. And when I get back into the airport, they basically tell me immediately go to get checked. And I'm talking to one cop. He's being a good cop. The other cop is being the bad cop.

And I'm like, dude, you can look through the bag. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we'll just, we'll just go through one by one, one by one, and talk to me. And he's like, having, this conversation within. I'm explaining everything that he needs to know. And then at the very end, he sees laxatives. I'm sorry, no, anti-laxis. And he's like, what are these for? They're anti-laxis. It's for my own.

Yeah. Yeah. He's basically, he's saying, I think you're a drug mule because you have anti-laxatives in your bag. And I'm like, dude, you're out your fucking mind. And eventually the other guy was like, okay, go ahead. I would be like, okay, well, I tell you what, I'll have a squat and you can put your hands under my ass and we'll throw it up. Put his finger in my ass.

Oh, God. Like that's what I mean. The Texas airport's trash. He had nothing to go by. And it was only when he saw the anti-laxatives, which for a flight that several hours, you could imagine somebody who may have stomach issues from the food or something like that may have those. To him, prove him a crime. If I went to Nicaragua, of course I'm bringing fucking antilexatives or whatever the fact.

called. Yeah. From his 20 view, I was a drug mew. I mean, Monizuma's revenge is the real thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah, diarrhea is definitely one of the big problems with traveling in the developing world. Okay, question for everyone,

my faves, why isn't anybody concerned about how easy it is to get the president's phone number? Seems like half the media have it. He has it. He can be compromised. You mean Trump? Trump. He could be compromised? Guys.

He's what he is. That's adorable. That's adorable. What if Israel were to get to him? That could happen. Yeah, I know. He was like, oh my God, what happens if Netanyahu gets his hooks in Trump? That could really affect foreign policy.

I could even imagine some scenario where the American people were dragged into an incredibly destructive, self-destructive war for no good reason. I mean, the Netanyahu is here right now. Yeah, it must protect the phone number. Now, that y'all, who is here right now, having a meeting with middle management, Trump and his friends. All right, Donald, the war is not going as well as we've wanted it to. You need to really step it up.

Your numbers are kind of poor. And Trump's like, yes, sir, B, be here. Let me push the chair in for you again, like a good little boy. Such a pussy. I think Trump is realizing the limits of American power. That's what I think. True. Yeah, I was just thinking about this whole in the back.

thinking about like the countdown maybe we should just do without the countdown yeah we don't need it then still out it'll save editing we don't need it right we used to need it but we don't need it anymore yeah we need for TMI because well until we get Manila on board but just using Rumble Studio and ditching Stream Yard yeah we don't need we don't need to count that yeah there's just you know I need it but deprogram doesn't so right I'll just bail on it fuck it all right how's been the nilla doing by the way she's very well yeah Feisty as ever.

Yes, true. She is. It never ages. Daniel, B.T.S. Why do you guys think politics overtook everything in the social zeitgeist? Sometimes the political nihil, I sometimes miss the political nihilism of the 90s and aughts. Now everything seems so existential. That's a good question.

I don't know. I don't have an answer to that one, to be honest. 24-hour media. That's what. I could do it. Internet. But that didn't mean that everything had to be with a night. political sphere. Like not everything was political, which creates a problem, right? When

everything is political and everything fractures, it's kind of like the Ricky Morty episode where they come out of different realities. It's like, there has to be some things where all of us agree. It's like, hey, rape is bad, right? Yeah, for the most part. Yeah, rape is. Ish, is. Yeah. Right. Right. Who's raping? Who's doing the rape? Who's being raped? Right. Right. That's that's what they added to it. As opposed to just the flat. Well, obviously it's wrong. like, well, it depends on me. Well, honestly, there's another major difference here. I mean, look, in the 90s, the economy was expanding.

It was the biggest economic boom in American history. So it didn't benefit everyone equally, obviously. But the fact is there was a general sense that you could be optimistic. Things might get better. I think now we don't have that. I think that's everything. Oh, basically people are in bad. so they become more nihilistic.

That's what I think. I mean, people are in trouble and they're looking for solutions and politics, you know, the people who are supposedly paid to solve our problems, you know, we look to them and we realize how fucking useless they are. Yeah, but I mean, at some point you would think that those people will look for a political solution. Like, nationalism, I suppose there's a stop, but hopefully it's not the end stop on that road. Hopefully it becomes, you know, or maybe just the people who are nihilistic, or now let's have a change in consciousness, meaning maybe that is the change of consciousness necessary for people to get to the next stage of whatever the next stage is. Hopefully, this

is not an end point. Agreed. We have some more comments and the shows we're almost out of time, which is amazing. But here we go. Philip Blair, question. When will Senator Chris von Hollen and other progressive Democrats visit the West Bank like Representative Roe Conner did? That's a good question for them. I mean, to get with Rokana credit, he did go. Yeah. You know, honestly, those fucking settlers, they give no shit. They could have killed him. Yes, they could have killed him.

Yeah. I mean, like, and then I keep wondering, I remember at the time when he went, I kept thinking to myself, if they killed him, then what? Oh, my God. I mean, I don't want Rokana to die that way, but if that happened in the abstract. Act, game over Israel. Finished. Nope. What they would have said is that he went there.

He was causing problems. Yeah. That's what they would have said. He was whipping up an insurrection. He was trying to trigger a new antifada and Israel acted in self-defense. It would be like the liberty. Nothing. It was a long time ago, man.

You give the American political class way too much credit. They know exactly who owns them. They know exactly who pays them. If there's no consequence to that, which I don't know if there would have been a consequence to it. The public opinion would be the consequence. I mean, public opinion is already permanently and irrevocably turned against Israel. And it doesn't matter.

It's never going to go back. And so this would have just hastened that process. Yeah, but it's one thing for the public to feel some kind of way. It's another thing for there to be consequences. Sure. Who cares if the public feels some kind of way, if you can't do anything. think about the fact that they just murdered a congressman like that's a big fucking deal and i don't know if that would have been consequence for it despite the fact that it would have been a big

fucking deal i mean chris van holl and all those guys i don't know why they haven't gone yet i mean at the very least they pass some or push listen to us though the zinists all have all have this like this this litmus test like oh you've got to go to israel after you win elected office and we're like you got to go to the occupied west bank you want to show you're cool I don't need them to. I mean, it was just good that Rokana went to see it for himself and to be able to draw attention to it. I'm glad that he went. But there's something, Israel is only doing what we allow them to do.

And so for Rokana to go and be like, this is all Israel. It's like, dude, you're in the belly of the empire. You're one of the people who are in that empire from standpoint, a standpoint, you're effectively saying that a country of Namingian people is causing all the trouble. Okay. Where do the settlers get the weapons from? they get it from us it's like you had the money

where did they get this from what did they get that from basically what you're bowling down to is Rokana is pointing out American policy and complaining about American policy I mean it's I don't know but good for going though oh I'm glad this came up too Anna Miranda Raque

what do you guys say about Laurel Lumer meeting her fellow Nazi tribesman Zelensky in Ukraine Jamarl the two wars were always won. Two wars, yes. The two wars were always won,

O-N-E, not W-O-N. Yeah, it was always one war. I mean, the U.S. is behind both wars. And initially, it was Israel that was the tip of the spirit, kind of like the Ukraine, but eventually it became the U.S. when it became clear that Israel couldn't do it. The U.S. doesn't want to get the raw directly

because, well, for one, we're fighting a war with Iran now, but the last thing we want is a war to go nuclear. But, yeah, both wars were always won. And Laura Lumer Singh Zelensky. Have you noticed that the Trumpers are now moving closer to the war with Ukraine? Yes, I was just going to get to that. So the, I mean, if memory serves at the risk of sounding like Winston Smith,

wait, have we always been at war with East Asia? Wasn't Laura Lumer like an anti-Zelensky zealot? Yes. And now she's gone completely to the other side. Why did she change her mind? And why would Zelensky agree to meet with someone who used to say so much shit about him? I could be wrong on this. I can't think of any time where Lur Lumer was against intervention in Ukraine.

As far as I can remember, that could be wrong. As far as I can remember, she's always been one of the people talk about how Russia did this unprovoked invasion and is a genocidal state. I mean, first and foremost, she is going to be loyal to her tribe. That is who and what she is. And if she was ever critical of Trump giving lethal weapons to Ukraine or Trump or Biden supporting Ukraine or the Trump inheriting Biden's policies to Ukraine, if he's ever critical, I haven't seen it. Maybe she was. She was. She was.

She was. She was. I mean, maybe I'm wrong. I don't look at Laura Lippon all the time. She has not said that she's not said why she's not said why she. changed her mind, but she has been called out for changing her mind. I suspect it's because Donald Trump has gotten closer to the war, meaning it's a war that it's just kind of, is like seemingly made about, but have still allowed it to continue with

the U.S. selling weapons and those type of things. Not to mention the CIA seems to be running it. Maybe she just came around to it. So you think it's just politics? Biden started it. Biden's bad. Trump inherited it. Trump's good. it's now the war is good well it depends i mean and that that's more of a question for you when you're looking at republicans and they're looking at the ukraine war is it more about the fact that it was joe biden's war or is more about the fact that it's war in the first place oh republicans love war they love it they don't like to be left out no they don't but i guess i'm more so thinking from the republican side of it it's not about it's about the fact that is joe biden's war not about

the fact that it's war Republicans, so for example, if you're talking about your garden variety Republican, they're always going to cheerlead for a stable world order, borders cannot be changed. You've got to be the most powerful nation. Russia is an enemy. Russia is a threat. Russia must be destroyed. So when Ukraine went in, the Republicans are all in there on it.

Whether there's Ben Shapiro or I guess lower Lumer all. right down the list. If Laura Lumer was against the war originally, it was because she was being a two-faced slut puppy because that's what she is. And it was bad because Biden started it, but now that her daddy Trump is in charge, now of a sudden it's a good war and Trump needs to win it. But Republicans, they love war. And that's one of the biggest things that I despise the Republican Party. Now, if you say you're a pro-life party, then explain to me how it's, how starving a baby to death or dropping a bomb on a kid is a pro is a is a is any better than killing a baby in the womb yeah is it's hypocritical to the extreme no question no question

okay a few more and we'll call it a show um um with daniel bts with lindsay with ms lindsay now being in that net great neocon bar below ground well gay I hope. Who do you think is the worst person in Congress? I say Randy Fine, followed by Apex skank Wesley Bell. I say, um, veteran. I can't stand him. I can't stand him. I can't stand him. I mean, part of my reason I can't stand him is because he was a wolf and sheep's clothing. I mean, he was acting as a lefty. I'm a progressive. I'm blah, blah, blah. Then he had a stroke and like he couldn't remember his last name. Brian masked. That dude is a goal.

The fact that he wore the uniform of a foreign military that he served in into the American capital. He should have been impeached. His citizenship should have been revoked and he should have been deported to Israel. Yeah. Agreed. Brian agrees that he's walking around with an Israeli uniform and the U.S. halls of Congress. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely right, Robbie.

Disgusting. Yes. Okay. Sir Bikes a lot. Thanks for the twofer. Richard Medhurst knows of this OS. I think it's called Graphene. Max Blumenthal did a tweet on this.

Oh, what's some kind of AI system? That's the program that races your phone. Oh. Oh, oh, let me write that down. It's called Graphene, G-R-A-P-H-I-N-E. Like Graph I-N-E, yeah. Okay. Okay, last one. We've had enough.

A recent theoretical study suggested humans could potentially live up to 1,759 years if aging problems were fully overcome, would you guys want to live that long? If not, what would your max be? That's sort of like how I've read that trees are technically immortal. And if, like, basically, unless something gets to them, like an insect or a fire or something, they basically, there's nothing to stop them. There's no natural life expectancy for a tree. It depends on what their life is.

I mean, am I healthy for the thousand years or my, you know, good for 200 and then better than better than for the other? I would say, like, assuming decent quality of life physically, yeah, I would love to live that long. Are you kidding? Why not? You're going to be, you're going to be, you're going to be dead forever. So, you know, you would, like Mark Twain said, like, you know, he was asked like whether he feared death. and he was like, I was dead for millions of years before I was born. And so, and it didn't bother me none. And I don't think it'll bother me none afterwards. Yeah, agree.

I mean, for as long as you're healthy, I mean, you're, it's a life. I mean, like this, it's kind of hard to say, well, yeah, I want to live 750 and then drop dead. Yeah, why? It's just a little strange. If I could be like, if I could be 30, if I ever, Okay. I'm down with it. Yeah, how about you, Robbie? Nope, not me. I'm ready to go to heaven.

Well, I'm not ready for you to go to heaven anytime soon, so stick around. Okay, so by the way, we do have that question. We'll do that tomorrow. If you're the guy who emailed me yesterday, it was kind of a long question. I want to give it proper treatment from the three of us. So, okay, thanks everyone for tuning into the Q&A episode. Regular show. We'll be back tomorrow. at 9 a.m. Eastern time. Tomorrow is 9 a.m. We're here Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. Eastern time. Stream anytime. Guys who are, everyone who's just listening to the show, your long national nightmare is over to quote Gerald R. Ford. We will get rid of the long timer so you don't have to forward, forward, forward, forward on your phone when you're listening to us.

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