DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - R.I.P. Evil Man | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Episode Date: July 13, 2026

Conflict reporter/writer/cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM ET. Today we discuss:• Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, ally of Trump/Netanyahu/Zelensky and a consistent neocon, dies of a “brief and sudden illness” at age 71. • Speculation swirls as a “proof of life” photo of Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, a far-right stalwart of the GOP, emerges after weeks of cover-ups and misdirection about the 84-year-old’s health.• U.S. and Iranian forces exchanged strikes over the weekend and issued conflicting accounts over whether the Strait of Hormuz remains open to shipping. Iran’s strikes targeted American military bases in Kuwait, Bahrain, Jordan, Oman and Qatar.LIVE ON RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowhttps://x.com/tedrallhttps://x.com/JamarlThomas#tedrall #jamarlthomas #news #politics

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That's jasee.com and claim your $250 Jace case today through July 31st. Watching D program with Ted. It is Monday, July 13th, 2026. Thank you so much for joining. Please like, follow, and share the show. Tomorrow will be right with us. We're just waiting for him to join. In the meantime, if you have any questions for Jamar or myself or for producer Robbie West, there he is right there.

Please put them into the live chat on YouTube or Rumble. We give priority to the Rumble rants and the YouTube super chats. We'll have a little bit of an explanation about some developments related to the financial status of the show a little bit later. Nothing bad, but you can probably guess we'll be asking for your support, which we are always grateful for and which we always need. Let's see here. Okay, so obviously, I'm going to go ahead and put Robbie in here. So we're going to be talking about one of the, well, basically we have U.S. senators dropping like flies. Lindsey Graham died at the age of 71. He's the, of course, far right, not, didn't used to be far right, but now far right,

neo-con, Trumpy, never met a war. He didn't like a dude. He is, he died at the age of 71 of quote-unquote, a brief and sudden illness in Washington, D.C. We'll talk about his legacy and what it all means and happens next. Meanwhile, hilariously, Mitch McConnell has is basically proof of life has finally emerged down to, he's with his wife, Elizabeth Chow. There's some speculation that this was an AI photo. He's literally holding like that day's sports section of the Washington Post as proof of life like he's in an ISIS hostage video. We'll talk about what's going on with Mitch McConnell and sort of what it all means to have sort of these Soviet-style cover-ups about the state of physical and mental well-being of our political leaders.

I do not believe that photo is real. I think that was 100% AI generated. Did you see the photo I put up on X or I had him with Jimmy Hoffa? No, that was awesome. It's gone viral. Did you see? No, no. I didn't.

People retweet people retweet me a hell out of it. I mean, it's more believable than what the RNP is putting out. Yeah, no, it's like, did you see, I saw one where he was breakdancing from his hospital bed. So great. Anyway, and then, of course, last but not least, U.S. and Iranian forces are exchanging airstrikes over the weekend. Basically, everything comes down to control over the strait of Hormuz. All right, I don't know what's going on with J.T.

Is he still on the other, is he like, is he talking to Sloboda? Is that what's going on? Probably. I don't know who he's talking to right now, but he is still alive. He'll come over eventually. He'll make an appearance. All right, all right. Well, yeah, I'm going to have to razz him about.

He's a well-dressed man. I mean, you got to, you know, watching off the air. He has to go powder his nose. He's natty, is the word. But you can't use white powder because it would be white face, and that would be racist. So you've got to use. It would be. Has anyone ever do?

I mean, in the history of minstrel, minstrelsy, did any black performers ever do whiteface. I mean, Japanese people have done it like in Kabuki theater, but I just wanted as ghosts and stuff. Yeah. I honestly have no idea. I have to admit, I don't really understand minstrelsy like why people enjoyed it, why people did it. I'm like, that's, you know, Grail Marcus, the rock critic, he had this great term that comes up for stuff like that called the weird old America. You know, like Bulldogs playing pool. Vell Elved Elvis. That's the weird old America. And that's like part of the weird old America. Anyway, all right, let's just get to it. And we got to talk about Lindsay Graham, right? So

Lindsey Graham has died. I guess it was somewhat unexpectedly. He had just come back from Ukraine. And the circumstances of it are reportedly somewhere along these lines. Around 8.30 p.m. Friday night, a call a call came into DC DC 911 but from outside the city from a female caller saying that the door

was open that there seemed that an elderly man was in heart having a heart attack or some kind of respiratory distress the the EMS guys went over there they found the door locked actually

and then they locked they broke down the door got in there and tried to work on Lindsey Graham, and obviously he didn't make it. Pretty, you know, I mean, obviously, look, I'm just going to say the not-so-quiet part out loud, right? I mean, it is widely considered an open secret in official Washington that Lindsay Graham was a closeted homosexual, right? J.T. How are you? That's what I fall in on. That's what you go. You just come in on people in the closet and, I mean, listen, I for one, an overjoyed that Lindsey Graham is gone.

A lot of people. Oh, me too. They say, you should not talk ill of the dead. Sorry, that's the best time I'm talking ill of them, especially if you are a Christian. If someone is a complete dirtbag, a mass murderer, a sociopath, a degenerate, a poster child for evil in our time. That's Lindsey Graham, and he is roasting in hell right now in the deepest, darkest depths. And that's a main burn for all time and scream for mercy that you're never going to get. Fuck you.

I agree. And also, let's face it, like, what kind of bastard? You know, this is a side thing, right? But what kind of a bastard is, like, obviously a cock goblin all week long, all weekend long, and then votes against the rights when it comes up? I mean, by the way, I just want to say, you know who I fucking hate in all this? Is all the mainstream corporate Democrats like Kamala? And, you know, all these like corporate Democrats, like, oh, God, what's his name from Connecticut?

Anyway, they're going on and on about what, like, you know, privately, Lindsay Graham was really affable. He was very funny. You know, I really had a good time hanging out with him. And I'm like, oh, good friends. for you. I heard that Hitler could be really charming, too. I mean, who gives a shit? And in a way, it makes it worse, right? So if Lindsay Graham was capable of being a good, decent person, you know, behind closed doors in the closet, let's say, to coin an expression, like, then, like, then he knew better. He wasn't just an asshole all the time. Like, he knew how to

be a good person. But let's face it, what is his life, right? He's not an accountant, right? He His life is literally the life of setting public policy and promoting political changes in our system. And what did he do with that life? He used it to murder hundreds of thousands of people, to enable the murder of hundreds of thousands of people, to deny people the ability to see a doctor when they needed to see one. I mean, he made the world a shittier place with his career, with his life. And like, who gives a shit that, like, you know, he was nice, behind this is like finding out that Hillary Clinton is apparently charming one-on-one.

It doesn't do us any good. It's like it's irrelevant. Agreed. No, I did a video Sunday morning. I put a suit on. I put a suit on. And then I was, as I pointed out, this is a soul that I'm willing to reap that I will put a suit on a reap. Because I wanted to make sure they are going to be oceans of me about how Lindsey Graham is a statesman. when Lindsay Graham was in a Senate. Lindsay Graham was a degenerate dirtbag murderer that was firmly involved. And the murder of kids, the murder of women and children, the murder of Russians, etc., pick a group.

Lindsay Graham was okay with the murder of that group, the Libyan War, where they effectively got rid of Gaddafi and turned that place into a basket case where they were selling blacks at that point for less than you could buy a card, I'm not mistaken. Literally, they have open-air slave markets, literally. Open-air slave markets. Do you think Lindsay Graham lost a day of sleep over backing that? No, he did not. Even Jolani at this point, Lindsay Graham is okay with Jalani also, who has been ethnically cleansing minorities in Syria.

When you're talking about somebody who has blood gushing off of his hands before he dropped dead, it's Lindsay Graham. And so for people who get skittish about us hitting him on us, it is a sacred duty to ensure that somebody like that does not get commemorated without there be alternative voices pointing out the reality of his life as opposed to this whistle of smoke that they're going to create in media about somebody who was effectively a soldier for the empire, which is different than being somebody who's backing Americans. I mean, you know, look, it didn't do his legacy much, you know, any good, whatever legacy he had to see all the top Israeli officials like Beebe going on and on in, you know, Like he was such a close friend of Israel.

This morning, I had to listen to NPR talk about, like, how, you know, it was so great that he stood up for democracy in Ukraine. I'm like, that's like standing up for veganism at a steakhouse. Okay, there's no democracy there. I mean, there's no elections. Kind of hard to have, kind of hard to have a democracy when you've got no elections and no election campaigns and no rival political parties. Otherwise, it's a great democracy.

I mean, it's, yeah, no. here's the thing too, right? People say, oh, wait till the body is cold. Like, don't say anything. First of all, when someone dies is when we assess their life. That's when the obituaries are written. That's when we talk about the good and bad stuff that they all did. And like nobody, you know, nobody, it's like nobody wants to hear about Lindsay Graham three weeks from now.

Okay? This is the time. It's now. And the other, you know, who also gives you permission to make fun of Lindsay Graham? Lindsey Graham. He was always an asshole about the people that he helped to kill or whose deaths he approved of.

He made fun of them. He was totally bitchy and queenie about it. He talked about, you know, he made fun of the death of the Ayatollah. He had quotes about, like, you know, he was sad that he didn't have enough bombs to kill Iranians with. He was hoping that we would hurry up and ramp up production

so we could kill more Iranians. I'm not even paraphrase. phrasing there. He was a bad, gleeful, man, he wasn't misled. He wasn't complicated. There are people like that. He wasn't one of them. Yeah, he was just a...

He was an unrepending shit heel. And like, not to mention, like, totally hypocritical. Like, literally, he himself, 99.9% chance was a member of a historically disadvantaged group of people, gay people. Gay people. And so someone like him, you know, should have an, I mean, frankly, you don't have, you shouldn't have to be gay or any other kind of ethnic identity or anything like that to be able to identify with people, with the victims of oppression.

You should be able to be, like me, you know, a cis, you know, heterose, white, able-bodied, white-ish-hit male dude and be able to see that when cops are pulling people over and killing them, that it's fucking wrong. But when you yourself are a member of that group, it just boggles the mind. It's like, well, you can't escape it. You know what oppression is.

You literally are living a causative life because you're oppressed, right? He was oppressed as a gay man. and like he couldn't even come out to his own party and say by the way um and so that's you know what I mean it's kind of like you got the it boggles the mind it's just like it's sort of like Larry Craig the the the the senator from Idaho who did the wide stance and then he has a wide stance right the white stance he was a family values conservative and you know I've had this debate with Scott Stantis where he's like how come like it's only Republicans who get

picked on like that. I'm like, because Democrats don't go around telling you where you should put your dick, okay? But Republicans do. And so if they put their dick in a place that's like, you know, not officially. You're allowed to make fun of them. We're allowed to make fun of the fact that Lindsey Graham was gay because he was in denial about it and because he was a right wing conservative. If it was, you know, Ted Kennedy, you know, no, not really. It wouldn't be appropriate. I've got to tell you a story about yesterday when I went to church because as you all know it's kind of an open secret I guess unlike Lindsey Graham I do wear my Christianity on my sleeve and so went to church yesterday and one of the deacons of the pastor came up so Robbie do you hear the horrible news

Lindsey Graham is dead as it's horrible for him as he's roasting in hill right now he split hill wide open I just went I just gave them the same thing right there the sanctuary of the church and you got to keep my these are both are always or a Republican types and just like not as no he he was he doesn't know you by now like I said now here's responsible for the death of over a million Iraqis I mean God knows how many people it is that he is directly responsible for the death for I said he always put Israel first over his own constituency and his people are dumb enough to keep voting for them when the hurricane went through North Carolina last year and they're getting flooded out he said yeah

I mean North Carolina is bad but think about Israel think about Israel it's like Dude, these are your neighbors directly to your north. And you and you are a pastor and you're going to come back. Why do you think about Lindsey Graham? I didn't say fuck him to the pastor. I would have been inappropriate. However, I did say he is roasting in hill right now in a devil's hill screaming for mercy. He's never willing to get in good ridden.

So he's better off without him and he's a waste of carbon. And the pastor and the pastor's like, he was speechless. How do you not know me by now? Right. I always love it when people come up to me and stay things like that. Like, you know, like Art Spiegelman, you know, the cartoonist. He's going to die, right? I mean, he smokes like 65 packs of cigarettes a day.

And he's older than me. He'll die. And people I know are going to call me and say, like, oh, did you hear the terrible news? I'm like, everybody knows I hate him, okay? And like, you know, it's going to be like I'm opening up a bottle of champagne when he dies. Right. It's like, but people will say that. Well, it's so terrible.

It's weird. Like, also, your posture, I mean, doesn't he have similar views about gays than you do? Well, maybe, but I mean, he obviously doesn't have the same values when it comes to the murder of innocent people that I do. Yeah. I mean, you could be, I try to think it would be universal, but. I always think it would be consistent with my pro-life stance. It's run to kill babies in the wound. It's also wrong to kill them with sanctions and by dropping bombs on them.

Selective punishment is wrong. If it's wrong to arrest people for preying outside an abortion clinic, it's also wrong to drop a 2,000 pound bomb on a market and this rate 300 people. Or throw up a fisherman just because Lindsay Graham was all about that. And the thing is, with any of it. Well, in fairness, I was already in a bad mood because of some bad news I had got over the weekend. So I got there on, I did not want to go to church. church yesterday. I just wanted to stay home. But I went because what kind of example I'd be

setting for my son and my wife needed me there. So I went. And then the first thing, and I'm already mad at the world. And the pastor said, what about that poor old Lindsey Graham? I was like, dude, dude, you picked the wrong day and the wrong dude. Right. Wrong day to have that conversation. Yeah. No, man, it's, it's, it's, I saw it and I was like, it was the first thing I saw on Sunday morning when I woke up. And I was like, wait a minute. Is this right? Lindsay Graham is dead. And I was like, this is going to be a fantastic day. And then Mitch McConnell. Garland, really hilarious, right? He posted like, you know, food tastes a little better. The weather, the sun shines a little brighter because Lindsay Graham's. Like weekend at Bernie's. That's what

it feels like. That, like, one thing I'm just propped up on the bed and it's like, there's no way that guys lie. Yeah, so let's get through the comments and we'll move over to Mitch McConnell. Yeah. I mean, I think it's basically it's going to be a pretty, it's a pretty dark Monday, not in a bad way. By the way, have you heard the conspiracy theories about Lindsay Graham? Yes. That was the first comment, actually.

Oh, was it? It was related to that. Sam Paul Massado says Russia definitely bombed Lindsay Graham. My conspiracy theory is that Graham was looking at those tight Nazis, the buttocks in the military uniforms, their shirts off. And Lindsey Graham is like, oh, my God, his heart just couldn't take it. Oh, my. Yeah, oh, my. Yeah, oh, my.

Right, oh, my. Oh, my. Yeah, there's so many conspiracies, right? Like, that Russia assassinated him because he was talking smack about Russia. Right. That didn't happen. And...

Yeah, I think it was to hide the crime of the young men. Okay, well, look, let's go actual conspiracy. Who made the call? I mean, someone did not... So someone calls not from the house in D.C. Right, because the police reported the phone call. From Maryland? But they get a call. They say, oh, the door's open. You can let yourselves in. They go there. The door's not open. They have to break it down. They go in there. And so, I mean. Wait, you said the door wasn't open. The door was not, it was locked. It was locked. So. All right, here's my. So here's how I, look, one part of me would have loved to have been a police detective, except it would involve working at the police. But I like, but I like, but I, but I, but I, but I,

like mysteries, you know. I like trying to put things like what happened here. And it's like so, oh, here's what I think happened. I think Lindsay was, you know, with a dude as a gentleman, as Lindsay was, you know, I don't know what kind of dude, probably not like a live-in partner, probably like, you know, someone, a boyfriend, a rent boy, you know, a paid person, whatever, or an escort. Anyway, and then that person called, that person didn't know what to do. He was probably a regular,

called up the staffer. Wait, I'm sorry to interrupt. Just be clear. You're saying he was fucking Lizzie Graham. Lizzie Graham had a hard to say. I think Lindsey Graham, who obviously is not a stranger to the bottle, just look at his face,

you know, was doing Viagra, 71 years old, heart attack, down for the count. you know, in like Nelson Rockefeller, right? Like, like just down for the count. Like, he died the way we all would want to die with dignity. And so, well, I mean, dying during sex, I guess would be great,

except for the person. Yeah. But I think, but I think he basically got, he fucked himself to death. The person called up the staffer who somehow they knew them. He was like, I don't know what to do, man. He fucking died. And so they're like, Get the fuck out of there.

Leave the door unlocked. And I'll call 911. You've got 15 minutes to dip. He hops into his Prius and leaves. And then like, you know, but then he's so addled and scared. He forgets. He sort of reflectively pulls the door locked behind him, forgets to leave it locked, unlocked.

And then that's what happened. I think I'm 90% sure that's what happened. See, the problem with that. story is that if you would have called the ambulance immediately, they might have saved Lindsey Graham if that's true. Yeah, but he died just like, I mean, apparently it was a massive heart attack, right? So basically, I think it's one of those like, oh, boom. Above the, above the cup.

Did you all see the new Iranian Lego video? Oh, no. That was so good. So good. If you all have another stand, you've got to go watch it. I will. It's hilarious. Listen, I want to steal a hell out of it. I'm going to put it on deep. I'm going to pin it out there at the top of the room.

I was wondering if they had stopped making those because I was like, no, they still make them. They had one where the guy was sneaking in, kill into ground, got out. Well, the thing is out of characters is that it looked like a woman, because she checks his name off in the back of the ambulance. It's obviously been a dude, not some cute Iranian girl. But Laura Lumer, she's like, they're coming after me. They want to come after me next?

I'm next on the list. It's like, listen, horse face. No one cares about you. No, she's going to die from plastic. She's a plastic surgery disaster. That's what's going to kill her. Yeah. Yeah.

But let's go to comments. I'm sorry. All right. Here we go. So, all right. F you so, thanks for the dollar. Your choice to replace the warmongering buddy duo of McCain and Graham. Yeah, by the way, the whole three amigos thing.

Right? They like, oh, the three amigos are. together. Like it was what's his name? Joe Lieberman, you know, neocon asshole also. John McCain also neocon asshole. And like, so

they're all three together. I'm sure they are, you know. I mean, yeah. Who would, so who would replace? Well, I mean, obviously one would like to see a good Democratic socialist replace him. But it's South Carolina.

Well, who is it? Strong. was before brand, yeah. You're a fucking hypocrite with his, with his black daughter. It'll be Nikki Haley. That's who's going to,

that's who's going to be, it's going to be the war Karen. Mark, I'm predicting it right now. Nikki Haley. The war Karen? The war caron. She checks all the boxes, right?

I mean, she's a minority. She had the Confederate flag removed from the stay house of South Carolina. She is a card-carrying neocon. She is an arch-Zionist. She checks every box. Who else is going to be there? Of colors.

I'm saying. She's checking all those boxes. The war, Karen, will be the one who gets in. It won't be an election. It'll be, she'll be ordained. And then she'll be in there for the next 50 years, so she goes to Hill next. Yeah. That's a really, that's an unimpeachable choice, I'd say.

I mean, it could go another direction, but that's a strong, strong pick. I agree. Child, thanks for the dollar. Isn't it strange that McConnell suddenly came out of the shadows right after Lady Graham ate it? Methinks Dark Magic is afoot. Taking a soul from one in order to imbue into the other to bring him back from the... So let's talk about Mitch McConnell, right? So, yeah.

I mean, so it's been weeks, months really, right? He's disappeared from the face of the earth. I mean, I literally spent my yesterday writing my column about this. I mean, it's like we live in the Soviet Union. It's fucking absurd. Like where it's like after the death of like a, you know, or the the addlement of our top political figures, we have no fucking idea if they're living or dead. They only release not a video of Mitch McConnell talking because clearly he cannot.

There's this photo that, you know, there's reason to believe mayor may not. not be exactly what it seems. You know, I don't know. I mean, there are people were speculating, like, look, in this photo, he looks better. His hair is even a little darker. Maybe it's a youthful photo. I even went to the trouble of trying to figure out which edition of the Washington Post that was because I recognize the font.

And I'm like, that's the Washington Post sports page. It turns out it is, it was from yesterday's paper. But, I mean, that's easily, you know. A-I'd in, no problem. You know, I don't know. I mean, Mitch McConnell is, he's not with us, right? One of the few things I believe Laura Lumer about. Like, I don't think we're ever going to see him again.

Agreed. I don't think he's with us. I mean, like, I don't mean it's dead. Right. He's like, he's like, it's like, asshole in a coma. I know, I know. Yeah. He's great, right?

Like, he is obvious. obviously not right. And I guess the key point is, aside from whether or not he's breathing air, breathing air should be, shouldn't be the standard, the high bar that you need to cover, right? Like, meaning there should be more to functioning in that role, as opposed to effectively just being a brain with eyes with nothing necessarily going through from the same point of electricity. there should be more to the job. That's what I'm trying to get across. We've watched Diane Feinstein literally out of her mind. And if I'm not mistaken, if I remember correctly,

dying in office in a literal sense of the term. We've just watched Lindsay Grant die in office. They had to cart them out out of the house. And now you get Mitch McConnell, who is pretending to still, exists and to still be with it. I mean, we had the same thing with Joe Biden, right? Where Joe Biden was literally out of his mind.

I mean, he looked like a wandering, you know, where he would just go outside wandering, people would have to bring him back in order to help him out. The one with Maloney, with all the tenets in the world, taking him and pulling him away. That's sad. That's like an old man being moved around a nursing home. And yet he was the president of the United States, who they kept pretending as if was still mentally there. Same thing with Trump, right? Trump doesn't seem to be mentally there. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with this picture. Yeah, the gerontocracy is out of control.

I think, but like you said, we know why the cover up for Biden and Trump. You know, the people around him are running the show and they want to keep running the show. Okay. But Mitch McConnell has already announced that he's going to retire. He's not running for re-election. His term expires at the end of this year. So, you know, as of December 31st at 12 midnight, he's gone anyway. It's already July. So, I mean, and I don't know why Republicans shouldn't care because Kentucky, I looked this up. And most states, the governor appoints the replacement, right?

So that would have been Andy Bashir. He's a Democrat. He could have and probably would have appointed a Democrat to replace Mitch McConnell if he, if and when he croaks. But that's not, Kentucky doesn't have that law. So the Republicans get to, they get another Republican to replace him. I mean, there would be a special election. So, and, you know, and Mitch would be no doubt replaced by another Republican.

Well, wait a minute. Here won as governor. Why wouldn't a Democrat went for or has potential to win? Well, it's just because of the demographics of Kentucky. Okay. Is it just a resident? Yeah, I mean, no, theoretically a Democrat could win, you know, theoretically. But I mean, they wouldn't.

So, I mean, they just wouldn't. It's Kentucky. I mean, I'm from Ohio. I know Kentucky. Yeah. Blue Dog Democrats are a thing. So they would win if they, if they're even still is such a thing. Not really.

There's not really such a thing. I guess my thing is Bashir is governor. And the reason I say he's governor. Or the reason why I'm breaking it up as a governor is it's a state election. It wouldn't be like a district election. It would be a state. Yeah. If a district was able to win the state, why wouldn't?

the Democrat be able to win the Senate? Because, I mean, there's just like, if you look at the polling, if you look at real clear politics, it's just like, I mean, look, is there a world where, yeah, I hear you about Bashir. I mean, that's just the conventional wisdom, apparently. I mean, maybe the state Democratic Party could come up with someone great who could, you know, who could, who could beat whoever the Republicans come up with. But conventional wisdom is that it's a safe Senate seat for the Republicans. So, I mean, I guess they're worried about that. That's it. maybe they're just worried about that. That's why he's staying in that seat as opposed and waiting for the next election.

Yeah. I mean, but he's not voting or anything like that. It's just. Right. That's a good point. Right. The balance in the Senate doesn't matter. That guy's never going to be on the floor of the United States Senate ever.

Right. So basically he's a no vote. Although if a Democrat came in, then that would be plus 1D, right? Correct. Yeah. So maybe from there. point of view. It's better to just keep it on ice as opposed to bring somebody else that may

let's what it is. Yeah. All right. Let's keep going here. Anamon Daraqi. Hello everyone from the Islamic Republic of Japan. Land of the Rising Soonie. Endermannarake. The world just became less gay and hell became gayer.

I think the flags all over hell now. Let's see. That's so funny. Oh, my God. And by the way, just to be clear, we don't care that he's gay. No. He cared that he was gay. That's what makes it.

Exactly. Look, honestly, he could have decided, although I don't know how he could have pulled this off in South Carolina, he could have theoretically said, like, you know, I'm an openly gay conservative Republican. Okay. A sassy senator from South Carolina. Nick Rivera, PhD, Robbie, have you considered that Lindsay is in heaven? Because he could have had a last-minute repentance.

True. Anything is possible, but I tend to judge someone by their fruit. And if someone is as fruity as Lindsay Graham, then I want to assume that that probably, that person never has had a repentant thought in his mind. Because, here's the thing. The Repubate doctrine is real. And what that is that if you hear the gospel enough, you keep telling God, no, I'm not interested what you have to offer.

I don't, I don't really care about you. Then God will honor your wish and he will, and he'll make, it'll call you what's called repubate. He will reject you. That's not a stalker. God doesn't like show up at your house. Holding up a boom box and. No, he gives you what you want.

If you don't want to have anything to do with him, he will honor your request. It's like, you don't want to have anything to do with me. Fine. I'm not anything to do with you either. and you physically cannot get said to that point because you'll never even occur to you to ask for repentance or forgiveness. Okay. We shall. Okay. I leave the theological questions to Robbie here. Philip Blair, question for Ted. Are those vinyl records on your shelf? Yes. Yes, they are. There are many, many, many, many vinyl records. and that's my dad's real to real player up on top there. And it still works.

Okay. Was Lindsay, if you so, thanks for the dollar. And if you so wants to know, was Lindsay a top or a bottom? I mean, I know. You know my guess. When you think a top, I think a bottom. Bottom. Yeah, I think a bottom.

I think a bottom also. That's what we used to say, I was like, for who? Him or the guy. by the other person. Yeah. Talk about catch and release. Yeah, no. Yeah. John Park, Lindsay and Cheney are making hot, delicious love in the deaths of hell right now.

That's a beautiful thought. You know, God, I already ate breakfast this morning, too. I wish I hadn't. P.W. Walker, Lindsay Graham, was the Clayton Biggsley of gay people. I miss the Chappelle Show. I did see this. Melissa Morgan, they said Grindr is flying their flags at half-mast in honor of the guy.

Sam Paul Mousson. Shinder would not do that because Grinder, unlike Lindsay Graham, has integrity to know that to be openly a gay dating platform, right? It is not a closeted gay platform. It is a gay platform, unlike Lindsay Graham. Sam Paul Massano, thanks so much for the $50. We're going to get into it. to a little bit why donations like that are super important.

I don't know if we're going to do that today or tomorrow, but we've got to do it soon. Sam Palmasano says, Lindsay Graham visits drone manufacturer in Ukraine, July 10th. Then on July 11th, Russia bombs the same facility, killing everyone there. End of the day, July 11th, Lindsay Graham dies of sudden illness. Pretty sure Russia murdered a U.S. Senator. I don't follow how that works. Well, they are thinking that because he was there a day before, they bombed it, that Lindsay got killed and the bomb blasts. And that the U.S. doesn't want to acknowledge that because that would basically end up in a war.

And so the U.S. has pretended that Lindsey Graham died in the snowing accident or skiing accident. Oh, I'm sorry, died at home alone by himself, despite the fact. I think someone's been watching, reading too many Frederick Forsy's novels. Yeah, I think they didn't read too much into it. I don't think he, yes, they don't. bombed the plant, true. They bombed several plants. True.

But that doesn't necessarily mean that Lindsey Graham was there. If Russia was trying to target Lindsay Graham, right? And like Russia missed, they're not going to turn around on a dime and get him the next day. Right. They're going to be like Plan B to the FSB. We need something else. And it's going to take months to put together. Yeah.

And I don't think they care that much about Lindsay Graham, if I'm being bluntly honest with you. But, Elizabeth Graham wasn't even in Russia at the time. I think he was in the States. I mean, obviously, he was in the huge conduit between, you know, the Ukrainian government and the U.S., though. I mean. Yes. Yeah, I don't believe that they would be targeted. Well, there's very cute, you know, very cute, blonde, blue-eyed boys in Kiev, you know.

Well, I told you. That was my conspiracy theory. It's like those hot young men's, those hot young Nazis. It's like so, so airy. and so tight, so cute. It's like, yeah, we can do this all day. Like, I'll show you, you know, like, you look to be deep in my C of Azov. Right, right.

Oh, my gosh. Okay. Doc McPherson, I only heard of Graham's death late last night. Nobody at church mentioned him. I was glad I could focus at church on the gospel rather than the death of that sinner. Yeah, no. That's right. San Paul Masada, thanks for another five bucks.

If we admitted that he died from Russia bombing, then we would have to go to war with them directly. Okay, yes, that's exactly what you said. Who was the worst gay senator, Lindsay Graham or George Santo? Lindsay Graham, because George Santos was a congressman. Joshua James, Jamarle is cool, but I really miss John. Oh, oh. We have news to talk about that.

Which I accept. I don't expect to be accepted. entire like it's just like if you don't like tomorrow it means you're racist that's that's how it works um no that that is not where i'm going that's never about but no man it's different energy john um it's a different character different personality i don't have an expectation of replacing in that way yep yep i know it's true i mean everybody brings something different to it um philip blair nancy mace U.S. Senator from South Carolina? Could be for sure.

She's Jonzing for it. You can tell. Oh, Nancy Mays. She's too white. She's too white. She's too white. She doesn't check all the boxes. I'm telling you, the war Karen,

the war Karen hits every single category. Doesn't Trump like Nancy Mace a lot more than Mickey Haley? It's not about Trump. Oh, it's all about Trump. It's always about...

Trump doesn't have a say in this. going to be the RNZ machine. I don't know. Trump, Trump. I agree with you about the Nikihali thing. I disagree that Trump is not going to have to say if he... I mean, they're going to talk to him, but you're like, okay, little old man, your butt buddy Lindsay just checked out.

Why don't you just go back to playing on truth social and let the big boys handle this while you continue to losing around? That is not the experience that I've seen the Republican Party take with Trump. I've seen it as more subservates. But correct me for wrong, if you think it's wrong. Well, I think that the difference is because he is getting his clock clean by the Iranians and he's lost, I mean, they have lost so much credibility by this disaster in the Middle East that I think that that's really has impacted the way that people look at him. Like, don't no longer see him as the God emperor who's going to save them. They now see him as the old buffoon who is mourning Lindsey Graham while we are getting bases blown up.

American servicemen are getting killed by Iranian missiles right now. Yeah. And also the midterms are coming up. That's a message. Well, can we hit that for a moment? Or do we have any more message before we? It's our show. We can do whatever the fuck we want.

Well, fair enough. But if there are more messages. Yeah, yeah. Well, there's more messages, but let's step into that. Because I'm curious on both of your takes on that. We'll get to the messages. Donald Trump bestrode the globe as a galactus. I'll put it that way, right?

And he was able to effectively bully the Republican Party. But a lot of that power came from the fact that he was popular. Like he had people who were willing to crawl on hot glass in order to vote for Donald Trump and back Donald Trump and be at his rallies and all those other stuff. If he loses that power in that sense, meaning from the standpoint of the public, does it affect other Republicans in the way other Republicans see and engage him? Like, meaning, do you see that taking place currently? I mean, sure, he's still in the war in Ukraine. That was something saying he was going to get out. Many Republicans hate the fact that he's still giving money and credit to Zelensky.

He's initiated a war in Iran. That is not going well. He can bomb Iran all he wants. The issue is that he's lost straight. Everybody knows he's lost the straight, which if Iran keeps meetings he lost the war, everybody knows it, everybody sees it. Reports are coming out that the U.S. was running out of missiles that came out even before the memorandum of understanding.

So that was obviously always true. Air defense, again, running out, standoff munitions, running out, and oil. Because the entire point of the memorandum of understanding was to get around the oil issue. This straight was never open and fully in earnest. The oil issue is still there. So basically, it feels like a candle burning down. That Donald Trump is trying to get something accomplished before the candle burns to the bottom, whether it's oil or weapons or something like that, whereas this is the issue of endurance, does the fact that he is embroiled in all

of these conflicts damage him politically in a way that affects his power of the Republican Party? And either one of you can answer. I'm just curious on your takes. You go first, Ted. You're smarter than me. That's not true, but I totally, no, I agree with tomorrow. I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't think, yeah, Rob Ego. It's like, I don't have anything to add to that. So, so. That's not a question. That wasn't a comment. Oh. That was more of a, like, I don't know if it's true.

I don't know if it's false. No, I mean, look, here's the thing. I mean, obviously Trump, under normal circumstances, with Trump's approval ratings, he should have lost internal influence within the Republican Party. The Republican, the old sort of country club, corporate Republicans should be looking at their chance to gain, to seize power again.

Ironically, people like Mitch McConnell, he was at the tip of the spear of that kind of proto-anti-Trump resistance internally. And now, of course, obviously he is no more. And so I think the problem is that the anti-Trump forces are leaderless and therefore, and fewer. And so therefore, it still Trump's Republican Party, even though it kind of shouldn't be. Now, will that always be the case? And by always, like, in two months, will that still be the case? I don't know. But, like, for the time being, I think it's still Trump's GOP.

But, I mean, if I were him, I'd be worried about losing it. Yeah. What about you, Robbie? I mean, he has, what, like 36% approval rating? He's less popular than herpes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So here's the whole thing about Trump. He ran on 2016. and really his whole first term is all about winning. That was his whole stick. Then when he lost in 2020, he's just like, oh, I'm the victim. So you can't at one point be the victim and be the winner at the same time. So that damaged his brand. Right now here he is again.

He has a second term. What's the priorities are abound in politics. Well, for sure. But now here's the thing, though. He led us into a war that was already unpopular with the vast majority of American people. they thought so little of us that they could be bothered to manufacture a lie. That's a reason why we're doing this. We're just going to do it.

Then to add insult to injury, you go in and then you lose the war. And while you're losing, you have Lindsey Graham, his best friend come up and say, well, if you're too stupid to support the Iran war, you want Iran to get a nuclear weapon, then you're too stupid to drive anyway. And then Trump just nods along both violently like the idiot that he is. And then Trump says, yeah, no, there's be inflation. It'll be surprised to be a price to pay. But don't worry, though, the stock markets are going to go up.

The stock market does not, contrary to what Achilles-Lorea thinks, the stock market does not impact the three of us here on the screen right now. It impacts the rich to own a crap ton of stocks. That's not the issue. If people are pissed off enough where they come out in overwhelming numbers and they deliver a resounding defeat to the Republican Party, to the Republican Party, to the Republicans. You can make the argument that that's a unit party who cares. It's just it's lipstick on a different pig.

But if there is a real difference, though, then if, especially if presidential ambitions on the next election, you want to pin this thing on Trump, not on the Republican Party. And that's why you'll have someone that's going to come off as being strong and being a fighter.

That's where the Republican establishment would go with a war caron like Nikki Haley, who checks all those identity politics boxes as opposed to some white Zionist like like the truth that he likes. I can't think of her name right now because

Nancy Mace. Why would you go pasty if you could get someone with the tan? All right. Just put on the boxes. We've now bandied this about and we have more comments to get to and 13 minutes to go. And also, Robbie, I want you to sort of

bring us up to speed as to what's going on. So, So, well, should we just do that? I mean, so there's some John comments I'll put in there. They're relevant to this. Just filming really said, when John left, I put Jamarles' name forward. Not sure if my comment was read at that time. It was by me and by Robbie.

But I'd like to think I got JT a job, L.O.L. You were several people. Jamal, you were like the first person, a lot of people came up with. It would have, I mean, you would have been at the top of my list anyway, but like it was really it was kind of like easy i mean i love easy decisions it wasn't like oh my god this this person versus that person um john park john's cool but j t and ted bounced off each other way better plus john never kept in touch with the show or even asked how anyone is marita matina if anyone still talks to john kiriakou can you let him know the best day to start his new show is the 15th not the

14th the day he chose to start is a bad day astrologically Robbie, I turn the mic over to you. Okay, so regarding to John, I mentioned before, I was kind of in a bad mood on Saturday or Sunday. So let me kind of unpack you all what is going on. And this is going to be relevant to the show. So as you all know, CAA, they are the ones that got John, his new show that starts on the 14th over there on YouTube called The Briefing Room. Up before that time, I was still doing John's social media. I was doing all this production work and getting paid $1,000 a month by John for doing all that stuff.

CAA, they reached out to John saying, so you have to use our people. He is completely isolated. They now control his ex account. John gave me, I got my dear John letter, pun intended on Friday via text message saying, I'm sorry, the side of my hands. CA has control of all of this. Long story short, because I no longer work for John, I have now lost half of my income. And that, the SSA say is, that that's a big hit.

That's a big blow. Now, here's, in my opinion, it's all about control when I talked to John last night. And for the record, I'm not mad at John. This is not John's decision. He has no agency in this. They control him. He is signed. He did sign a contract with them.

He did. He did. He did. And so when I was talking to him last night, is John, I want you to understand. I am not mad at you. I understand. This is what it is. CAA is never going to let some Hick from Montana handle your stuff if they are going to have these polished Hollywood types that come in.

And they are going to, they're going to carry over the that you say. That's a difference. That being said, I told John and not John, I told JT and Ted that depending on what happens, and this is my ask for y'all, this could very very well be my last month here on this show as well as on TMI. Because if I cannot afford, if I cannot afford to pay my bills, I cannot do this. I mean, I have to get a job at Walmart or something else. I told John that last night. He's like, Rob, you can go work at Walmart.

I said, dude, have a wife and a kid at home. I have no choice. I have to do what's right for them. Here's my ask for each and every one of you. I'm not asking for a dime. I'm not asking for your money. What I am asking for you to do, though, and some of you are already doing this,

and I appreciate you, is go over to Rumble and go on to YouTube, search your Putin by gaming, and just so you go to bed at night, just pull up a playlist, let the videos run. If I make enough money, If I make enough just to absorb most of the hit from that off of YouTube and Rumble, you can keep your favorite right winger here on the show. If not, then the show loses a producer.

So, I mean, that's the show is. We can do the show without Robbie, but it won't be as good. It won't be as tight. It'll be much harder for us to navigate the comments. It'll be, you know, it just won't be as smooth. And it's not always, you know, it's, it's, it's, there's a lot behind the seat. technically that you guys don't need to know about. It's not really important.

But we need Robbie. That's why he's here. It's not just, I mean, it's fun to have him, but that's not the main point here. He performs a vital, necessary service to the show and to JT and me. How many hours would you need, Robbie, for the game? Well, I mean, in total, so on Rumble for the creator program, the two biggest metrics are the 75,

lie chats during a live stream. I've got those. I'm at 76. So that metric is done. To stay in the program, you've got to have 500 watch hours. And, but of course, the more hours that you get, the more you get paid. I mean, that's how rumble pays. They pay like terrestrial radio does. Right now, I am currently sitting at 340 hours of the month. So that's going to be fine. And the way that the, and really John kind of did this at the best possible time. Well, let me rephrase. It wasn't John. C.A. did this at the best possible time. Oh. Because with the creator program,

payouts should be should go up because smaller craters who cannot stay in the program are going to get their walking papers I mean seriously what my goal is is get a thousand watch hours a month if I do that odds are of them be perfectly fine and again I'm not asking for a dime from any of y'all I'm asking good a bid click on a playlist let it run if you if you guys can afford it and you can do more and we appreciate what you already do um please consider it because it's the bigger the pot is here the there's a pot for Robbie and for all of us. So yeah, if you're gonna donate, donate to the show,

but I'm saying, I'm not asking you to donate to me directly because that hurts the show. That's why when JT came on and John left, and both of these guys argued with me, that's why I suspended Robbie aid. It does not make any sense for me to rob these two guys for my benefit. That would be dumb and it would be selfish on my part to the extreme.

Seriously, just support the show. And if you never go to bed, just pop over on YouTube. If you don't want to come to Rumble, do a search of poop-bite game and click on the playlist, let it run. Please bookmark it. So it's like something you just want to. You just see it on your of your browser and just hit that sucker, go to sleep. No, that's all you need to do. Seriously.

I'm going to be doing it every day. If Rumble pays enough, this will never even come up again. And it's better to do it more than you two. Rubble pays more, but I'm going to be doing it on both because even a small payout from YouTube is still better than no payout at all. And I have a channel on both, so why not? YouTube, I mean, they definitely suppress my channel because it's called Putin Bot Gaming. And whenever I introduce myself, it's always as the master of misinformation who influences the elections because that's what I do. And so YouTube hates it.

And it's just, it's fun. But sure, I'm not really their thing. Okay. Thanks for me. All right. More comments here. And, you know, look, and for the record, I know people are asking. I have not heard from John Kiriaku since the last show on April 1st.

And, yeah, and I don't know why, honestly. You know, it's like, I'm sure if I were watching, I'd be like, oh, Ted, you must have done something to piss him off or something like that. I assure you I did not. And, I mean, it's one thing for him to do that to me, but I don't appreciate what he's done to Robbie. And Robbie's, you know, deserves better, really. It's not cool.

Yeah. Okay. And by the way, the only person that John's hurting and all this himself because, you know, this is not going to end well with a, you know, it's like when your friend ends up with the controlling, the controlling, you know, wife or husband and doesn't let them go out with you anymore. And you know it's not going to end well for them. You know, you'll miss your friend, but yeah. Yeah, and people are asking, yeah, Putin Bot gaming. If you have to search your Putinbot over there on YouTube or Rumble, it's me. I'll pop up. And YouTube, honestly, I mean, they really do

hate me. So if you do the run, just a pleasure click a like button that way they know you're real human and that that's it. All right. Let's get through the comments and with the time we have left. Government of Man 43 of Zelensky's a dictator, Putin is 10. Their constitution allows what he's doing. If refuses to step aside when the war ends, he will be a dictator, he will be a dictator. I mean, we can argue about that. Yeah, no elections though. I mean, he could allow the elections. It's like self-serving. Dr. M.K. Ultra, thanks for the 249 pounds. Lady Judy died from anortic aneurysm as in me. B.H. Longhole, thanks for the $10 donation. Much appreciated. San Palmasano, $10. Would you all ever do an afternoon night stream or weekend stream for more than an hour?

Hint, y'all should play Mechakamilion. Thanks for the $10. Yeah, we would do. I would do. I mean, it seemed across my mind of, but the time frame is weird. The show runs into TMI immediately. Yeah, yeah. It'll have to be at night. Yeah, I could do that. All right, so Ashley Morris, I think we need Robbie to stay.

Well, I don't always agree with this politics. Me neither. These voice helps keeps a balanced narrative, and it's funny the way all three of you riff off each other. Yeah, agree. I agree with that, by the way. Me too. Part of the reason that the show works is because of that. No, I mean, I like having that point of view.

And it's not like a generic Republican point of view. Daner Sellis, thanks for the $10. Thanks for the content. Always enjoy the show. Tomorrow is a perfect fit for the show, as others have said. Why don't you, Mark, why don't you guys organize an independent network with other independents like Lee Camp, Hardlands, Media, due dissidents and spread Robbie's production over this new mini network?

I will answer this question right now. We already are. So if you're on Rumble or YouTube, it's called the Freedom First Network. It's being headed by a friend of the show, Jeff Dornick, CEO, CEO, and that's something that we are already doing. Yeah, I've sent you the invite. T.T. I'll send you another one. No, you're welcome. I'm sorry. I got you. I got you.

Yes. Come on. What the hell, man. Yes. I'm not icing you out, my brother from another mother. I mean, yes. It's better. Just send me a text. because it's like the the feed on the brumble thing is it's a lot if you just can get text I'd get it

directly. Screw you JT I said it over telegram but yes I'll send it again but no but no the answer is yes we're already doing this because independent creators the only that we're going to be able to work together and survive is by working together and cross pollination

and that way we could avoid that way we avoid corporate capture that's the goal that's what we're doing if you're not on pickax you're going to pickax all it channels or all the different people are on the one channel well it's all the different people on the same channel so it's the freedom first network you can find it on both rumble or or youtube and i'm already talking with jeff dornic and we'll be uploading videos and we're saying like a

profit sharing system so yes all this is already in the works it's already happening and we are well on our way and things are looking good um that's about it montana native um thank you much so much so much for the two dollar donation another Montana native, although you're not a Montana native. You're a Montana import. They live in a transplant. The problem with open borders. Montana immigrant.

Well, if you have a southern accent, you're welcome. Why the fuck do Montanaans have a southern accent when they're up on the border with Canada? Well, it comes up from the war of northern aggression. So Virginia City, they wanted to, originally called Verna. And so during the war and even after, a lot of southerners went to Montana for a prospect, and stuff, especially after the war, because it's so open and so wild, they won't live under the Yankee occupation, but the carpetbaggers said

they went to Montana. A bunch of them went to Brazil, too. That's so interesting. It's sort of like Bakersfield with all the hillbillies in California. Anyway, thanks everyone for your incredible support for the show. We really appreciate you. Thank you, Robbie. Thank you, Jamar.

We will see you back for the Q&A show at 12 noon today. That's in just two hours. See you then. Looking forward to a TMI coming up right now, and we will talk to you. See you later. Have fun of us. Bye-bye.