DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - Rise of the Left | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Episode Date: October 23, 2026

Got something to say to this podcast? Send a voicemail, and you might hear yourself on the next episode!• Youth protests erupt in Albania, torching buildings and clashing with police over corruption and a Kushner-backed resort, while similar fury flares in Italy, France and beyond as citizens demand that governments deliver for them. Meanwhile, Kushner blasts a Vanity Fair excerpt as “outrageous” fabrications after it alleges he leveraged secret UAE- and Saudi-linked bank accounts holding hundreds of millions for influence-peddling with Trump.Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM Eastern time.Today we also discuss:• Middle East Crisis: Israeli forces kill two Palestinian gunmen who wound five Israelis near Hebron, prompting Netanyahu to order a West Bank lockdown days before the election. The U.S. orders non-emergency personnel and families to leave Saudi Arabia as Iranian-backed Houthis ramp up attacks on airports and infrastructure. Billionaire donor Peter Thiel privately slams the Iran war, saying “we should not have done it” and warning of mistakes, even while affirming support for Trump.• Ilhan Omar vows to abandon her raided D.C. home, citing death threats and safety fears after federal agents seize phones and other items in an immigration probe. Meanwhile, federal documents drop a bombshell by listing Ilhan Omar under the name Elmi—matching her ex-husband—fueling the probe into possible immigration fraud and marriage claims.• Trump and Vance dangle disaster aid as midterm leverage, linking relief for storm-hit states like North Carolina to Republican wins while blue areas wait longer.• Health/environment: Scientists declare nearly all shallow coral reefs critically endangered as climate change drives them toward collapse within decades, threatening marine life and coastal communities worldwide. Calley Means, key RFK Jr. ally who helped forge the fracturing MAHA-Trump alliance, quits the administration amid broken food and health promises.• El Paso GOP chair Michael Aboud blasts Sacha Baron Cohen as a “liar and a pervert” and plans to sue after the comedian allegedly tricks him into appearing in the new Ali G film.00:05:40 - Sacha Baron Cohen’s Ali G Stunt and the GOP Lawsuit Threat 00:26:58 - West Bank Lockdown and Houthi Attacks on Saudi Arabia 00:48:27 - Calley Means Quits as Lobbyists Stall the MAHA Agenda 00:59:01 - Environmental Health Decline and the Collapse of Coral Reefs 01:06:48 - Melania’s Ceasefire Deal and Netanyahu’s West Bank Plans 01:11:09 - Ilhan Omar Raid, Doxing Debate, and Immigration Fraud Claims 01:42:37 - Trump and Vance Tie Disaster Aid to Election ResultsMERCHANDISE: DeProgram.MySpreadShop.comLIVE ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@DeProgramShowLIVE ON RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowhttps://x.com/tedrallhttps://x.com/JamarlThomas#tedrall #jamarlthomas #news #politics

Good morning. It's Friday, October 23rd, 2026. Thank you for joining the program with Ted Raul and Jamaral Thomas. Jamaral, I'm going to overload us. We have so much news to talk about today. The main story is the rise of the left. We've been covering the protests in France. And we mentioned Albania, but we're going to focus more on Albania today, where you spent time, the protests have gotten very, very spicy. there, as well as in Italy. Basically, it's all of Western Europe now, except for maybe Germany. But, hey, can that be far behind. A lot of this has to do with Jared Kushner and his connection to Albania.

Jared Kushner is fighting off a Vanity Fair book excerpt that basically reveals that he's, well, the claims, I should say, that he's been money laundering and leveraging up to $1.75 billion in cash through the UAE and Qatar and Saudi Arabia, secret accounts in 2018 that were used basically for influence peddling with his father-in-law, President Trump. Under normal circumstances, this would be very serious shit. But in the Middle East, lots going on. The West Bank is on total lockdown right now following the killing of two,

Israeli soldiers. The initial report said that five had been wounded. At least two have subsequently died. Two Palestinians have been shot by the IDF as well. Of course, it's not lost on us that the election in Israel is Tuesday, just days from now. Also, all non-emergency personnel and families have been ordered by the United States to leave Saudi Arabia because they can't keep them safe from Uti attacks. Also in the Middle East, related to the Middle East War, Peter Thiel, Big Trump ally, privately told in fellow investors and politicos, we should not have invaded Iran and that it was a mistake. A lot of Ilhan Omar news.

Some of it is specific to right-wing media, claiming that the federal documents prove that she changed her name and that the name that she was sworn in under to Congress is not the name that her actual name. Meanwhile, she said that the raid means that effectively she's been doxed and she has to leave her home, otherwise her family is not safe. The Trump and Vance are using disaster aid to put to places like North Carolina and saying, if you don't vote for, if you don't vote Republican and Republicans don't win, we will not give you disaster aid. Pretty creepy, actually. Almost all...

It's not creepy. It's anti-American. It's unethical. It is anti-American. Nearly all shall fellow coral reefs in the world, basically are toast and will be gone by the year 2075. There's a related story here. Basically, the Maha Trump Alliance we should talk about a little bit, is fracturing. And I think this is an interesting story for us. And finally, but most amusingly, former El Paso GOP chairman is mad at Sasha Baron Cohen and threatening to sue him, calling him a liar and a pervert. after the comedian basically tricked him into appearing in his new Ali G movie, which sounds awesome.

So even though Sasha Barron Cohen is a Zionist, I might be going to see that. Yeah. I'm curious what that skit is where he leaves that thing. He calls him a pervert. Oh, I'll tell you. I have all the details on that. Okay. That's pretty specific, right?

He is very specific. That guy's a pervert. A liar and a pervert. I'm like, well, it's Sasha Baron Cohen. What were you thinking? I don't know how Sasha Baron Cohen can like still pretend to be someone else at this point and have anybody like not know who he is. I mean, he's an international star.

It's actually unbelievable. I love that word. The word is hilarious. Perverts. It makes me laugh every time I hear it. Yeah, it's a great word. It's what it means. And it's like when it's being a platform.

to somebody is like, okay, how is this being applied? Like, what happened? Totally. You didn't say anything about the Wittkov meeting in Moscow? Oh, well, we can do that too. I mean, you know, as it is, I probably should have cut two of those stories out. But, you know, we have two full hours. Just a reminder, everyone, we do go today.

It's Friday. So we do Q&A, most is the focus in the second hour. But really, truly, we've kind of, like, drifted away from that. We're just sort of, we take your questions anytime. So please post your questions in the live chat if you're watching between 9 and 11 a.m. On YouTube or Rumble, please like, follow and share. Please subscribe, all that stuff. And we will talk about anything and everyone that you want to talk about.

Okay, I think that's about it. Okay. What shall we do first? You want to do Widka? Well, we are, it's in the very beginning. So I would imagine the audience is flooding in. So the story that intrigues me the most, even though it matters, the less, let's hit that one first. The pervert.

All right, the pervert. What the hell happened for him to say? All right, let me pull up that story because it is the funniest thing in the world. You're right. It's hilarious. And you've seen him play these characters and these roles. And as you point out, he's an archivist. He's a hardcore Zionist.

So, you know, when he's playing Muslim characters or something like that, you know, he's mocking. So the catcher becomes, okay, well, what in the world did he do in order to, like, he mocks everybody. He's an equal opportunity mocker. He's a mocker. Yeah. He'd be a mocker. Yeah. All right.

I mean, so here we go. And he was like something about the black baby and the black women were sitting around like horfied by the stuff that he was, hey, because he was holding on through the baby like he was stealing the baby. It should be pointed out, by the way. I always like to give credit words to do that in the original Ali G show where he tended to be like this stupid really horrifically stupid British white rapper with a with a TV show kind of like a proto podcast kind of thing Donald Trump was one of the guys who got it right like right away he like yeah Donald Trump like listens he's like mm-hmm mm-hmm and then he's

like okay gentlemen thank you so much for coming it's been great to meet you and he just gets up and walks off well a kind man knows a kind man that's exactly that's exactly that's Exactly. I know what you know. Yeah, I know. Oh, I know this. All right. So here it is. He's the, this guy, his name is Michael Aboud. Okay. He's the chairman of the El Paso County Republican Party. Okay. So in the movie, let me one second. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'll just read it. Okay. So in the movie, Michael Abood is shown taking part in a training program with another character that, Sasha, Bashar Baron Cohen comes up with ex-Mossad terrorist expert Colonel Erad Morad, who instructs Abu and other MAGA sympathizers in self-defense techniques, including the wearing overclothes of protective plastic buttocks. He also schools them in how to fire bullets from the middle of these plastic buttoes by the repeated up and down manipulation of a rubber penis.

A bud and a fellow student Did you say a rubber buttock's Overtop? Rubber, yeah, this is from, this is plastic buttocks And manipulated by the up and down movement of a rubber penis. Can you imagine when like Sandra Barrett Cohen's staff like went to a company and like, you know,

like hey so this is what we need used to design. So Abood and a fellow student, former preacher and would be actor, Joshua Loudermilk are then recruited by Morad to help in a mission to prevent the birth in the U.S. of the baby of a fictional South American drug kingpin. So then, Abud and Louderman abduct his heavily pregnant girlfriend and drive her in a fake ambulance to a remote unstaffed medical facility where she gives birth to a lifelike prosthetic. They then abandoned her, Marad having placed her live baby in a zipped bag, and tried.

drive with it toward Mexico. Loudermilk is later seen attempting to discharge fire from his fake buttocks, while Abud takes the decision to drop the baby at that point being dangled from a drone at a substantial height to the ground to prevent it touching U.S. soil. The actions could not be anything other than extremely serious for a real infant. Until the guard contacted Abud, the businessman was unaware of his participation in anything other than what he believed to be a non-fiction film. In a statement, a boot called Baron Cohen and his entire film crew a bunch of liars who diseased people to benefit themselves.

They claimed that this would be a documentary about the illegals crossing the border. Then they said they were adding in this self-defense guy from Israel. He said, it is my opinion that Tasha Cohen is a pervert. Plus, he talked about how Muslims are all gay because they follow the sex practices of Muhammad. No one should spend one penny watching anything he produces or appears in. I plan to sue him. Asked pressed on whether he stands by his actions in the film, Aboud declined to comment. He said that the film repeatedly stresses that neither Abu nor Loudermilk are in on it.

Louder Milk has not responded to requests for comment, but his social media feed suggests a level of understanding about the project not shared by most of his fellow. Participants. Earlier in the week, he posted on Facebook, I got to spend 12 hours one-on-one with Sasha. He taught me so much about the fun of making others laugh, as well as a link to the promo for the film, saying, I'm in the trailer. Aboot's shock at his involvement is surprising, given that he, along with Loudermil, features in the second trailer for the film, which was released about two weeks ago. That clip alone contains considerable clues to those involved. That all is not what it seems. It is addressed to the... Pardon?

We have the clip? Let's see. Yeah, we do have the clip. Let me... Okay, let me... It's... By the way, the movie is called...

The movie is called Ali G. Who is I? Who is I? So how will this work with the YouTube gods in there? It's a... It's actually a YouTube video. It's a... film trailer, you know, so there's no copyright. Okay. Okay. Because that's that's insane. I mean,

wait a bit. Just before you play, that is insane. And the Republicans, Loudermount or Loudermilk. Oh, I know. And then I love the fact that they were like, oh, by the way, this is Israeli training. Now, Krav Maga, right? It's like, this is a new style of Krav Maga. Now they would accept it because it's Israeli training, which I suspect is why he said it. Because if you would have said this is a new Muslim martial arts. Nobody would have done there. So, cram God. Yes. All right, let me, let me, let me make this, there we go. Okay, all right, here we go. Off to the races. Young Shumash, Kazakh Film Commission, KFC, and Kazakh Department of Language,

Kady Lang have grave warning about new energy movie film from dastedly Sasha Koyne. There have been reporting that this film is racist. We have seen it, and sadly it is not. Coriand made this documentary by infiltrating American society undiscovered for past two years. How did it do this? By shape-shifting, of course, into three different devils. First, L.A.G. A white and nil-compoops who steal mannerisms from the popular music genre, Hephaupy.

Do you know where the du-rag originated from? China. No, it's not. That's what I said inside. Second, as a member of a terrorist hate group called Liberals. Ollie G. has to be stopped. Why? Because he is a cultural appropriator.

I don't care. He uses the word panani. Excuse me? Poonan. It's pronounced Pannani. He has stolen your word. He has taken your punani and put it in his mouth. Oh!

Is that here? Sir! This Jew has turned into another Jew with Muscles almost as big as my wife. My name, Colonel Eran Morad. Do not be fooled these immigrants are not coming here to mow your lawn, trim your trees, rake your leads, clean your house, care for your babies, bus your tables, wash your cars, paint your houses, build your fences, it's all your roofs,

drywall plumbing or electric. They are coming to kill. Hell yeah, man. Kazakhstan very angry by this movie film and will not show it in either of our two cinemas. We ask you, please, for the sake of distance and humanity, join in our boycott. We urge you do not watch this movie film

in the cinemas on October 27. Jankly. Oh, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. So it was in the karate scene. Well, he was like a crime with a God teacher. That's what he... Yeah.

show the buttocks and the penis and the Republicans are out there using the penis to manipulate the butto. Oh, that's hilarious. Wait, it's loud about doing that. Like,

is the, the congressman rubber penis. Yeah. So now let's see him to Israel. Let's let him go to Israel and start making fun about people to come in and do

the right of return. Or let's not go to Israel and start doing this kind of, this kind of baiting stuff he does. This guy is a, he is a holy owned Zionist. Yes, he is. Who is 100% propped up by the Israeli government.

We know he is. He's testified in front of the Knesset and all this other crap. The guys are complete troll. If there is a Jew on this planet, if you throw down a whale, it's that fucking guy. Right there. He can burn in hell. He is a Zionist.

You're right. He's like every day on the planet. Every single one. Fuck him. I mean, come on, he's got to give me credit for credits do. He's,

that shit's funny. And you got a Republican Congress. members. It's not funny at all. It is right. Like, J.T. I'm the one of this, I'm the ones on the show who's always accused of being a racist.

And here I am going after an honest to God true racist. My wife's over here looking at me saying, stop, stop cussing of this guy. No, seriously, this guy, if there was ever an abortion I could get behind, is Sasha Barron. That guy. That guy. That guy is a coming, Robbie. That guy is an evil sack of crap.

It's like on Constantine. It's like the devil. this is the one soul i'm willing to this is this is the one right there you're like no if i if i had access to the one ring for just for one hour and i have it maybe i'll take away from froto i would use it to eradicate that girl's soul from the earth no seriously that dude he wraps up his racism as comedy so that way good leftists we're going to start laughing at it and making a joke That's true. I mean, what he's doing is making fun of the people who are ignorant, who are poor to just to elevate his particular brand of racism to form of comedy.

What is, explain to me the difference in what one, what this cuck, this asshole is done that's different from white face. Well, nothing at all. I would say that fuck him. The Israeli, the mocking, the cry of my God thing and the mocking the Republican Congress member, that's not poor. keeps going after Congress or at the very least members of Congress and even the people that were in that group they weren't necessarily poor and ignorant

they were I mean they didn't look poor they didn't look poor they looked normal they didn't look poor they were just like black people who was like what the fuck are you talking about they go to Israel he's even mocked in the intellectual right fantastic

with a woman and he's like yeah the duret came from China he says it in the thing she's not poor he's not making fun of her He's making fun of everyone who's not a member of the tribe. And people are paying money to do it. Okay.

So have you seen any of his movies? I saw Borat where he was going through all these little towns. Just out in the middle of nowhere. People know who work nine to five, blue collar, you're bushlight drinkers. And then he goes out of his way to make them look like the most ravenous anti-Semites on the planet because he's tricking them. and he's enriching himself to do it. And then he goes to Israel and he pokes his stuff up, says, look at the global anti-Semitism and hatred against global jury.

Sorry, this guy is a complete con artist and a tool. There's nothing funny about what he's doing. Well, he's definitely a con artist. And the fact that the two lefties here are giggling over what this overgoing embryo is doing. I'm laughing out loud. I'm like losing and I'm crying. It's funny. This guy should be thrown out a will and never allowed out.

Look, when David Chappelle is making jokes, right? David Chappelle hits everybody. And yet, you would get the trans community that is screaming bloody murder at him that he's anti or he's transphobic. But David Chappelle makes sure, J.D. Chappelle started his career making jokes mostly about blacks. True. Like, he's equal opportunity. I'm not saying that he is.

I agree. But Chappelle doesn't support a genocide. I mean, you saw that, okay, but the thing is, Robbie, I mean, Seinfeld, is also, Jerry Seinfeld is also a massive, rabid scientist, right? Yeah. And it's like, I mean, you know, look, there's a lot of, obviously there's a lot of Jewish people in, you know, Hollywood and a bunch of them are pro-Israel, right? And like, it's like, okay.

And so you can sort of decide, well, am I only going to patronize comedy or drama, for that matter, by actors who I agree with politically? Look, I respect people who decide to make that decision. and I'm not one of them. Life is, we live in a capitalist society. If I only hung out with people or only absorbed popular culture by musicians and actors that I agreed with, I probably wouldn't have a lot of stuff to listen to or watch. So, I mean, I don't, I do think that all that said, look, I think I'm very good at compartmentalizing that shit.

I mean, Harvey Weinstein, Harvey Weinstein, great producer. I mean, to this day, when I see his company logo come up on old movies, I'm like, oh, this will probably be a good movie. He was a great. I mean, I can separate out because he had great taste in making movies. You know, Quentin Tarantino would have never had a career without him. It's like, do I think Harvey Weinstein is a good guy? No, he's exactly where he belongs. But like, the thing is, it's like, to me, it's like all that said, I'm going to be.

enjoy your goal your goal your goal your glory stop ted uh that guy can take you he goes he does make fun of Israelis too he does he's going to swim in the deepest world where he's making fun of of like the israeli mentality yeah the krav magatha that's an israeli thing and he's getting the republican congress member rich in there to participate in this nonsense it's almost like he's mocking the way that the united states engages with isra it's like if you told him any other thing He would have never been in that room. They would have never put on the rubber buttocks. They would have never put on the rubber pants.

They said like, oh, I'm a Russian mixed martial arts expert. No, he wouldn't have come. He wouldn't have shown up. Or if we'd said like, oh, he's a, you know, he's a Saudi Arabian, you know, martial arts expert. Uh-uh. In fact, if they'd even said this guy is a Japanese, like, wrestling expert, they would not have brought him. Right? So it had to be Israeli martialites.

And it didn't show the extremity. of it, hey, we need you to put on a rubber buttocks and a rubber penis. And we need to manipulate the but this is a new karate. And they did the shit, right? And they make him look like... He's obviously wearing some kind of like muscle suit. And they're making him look like ridiculous with the hair and everything. Yeah.

And he's mocking the immigration thing. I don't know. I mean, my take, I've seen all of his movies and all of his shows. And I would say, normally what he does is he's pretty, he takes a lot of risks as a comedian. He makes himself the butt of the joke a lot of the time. And that's sort of like, and basically it's kind of like, I'm an idiot. Come and join my idiocy. That's his approach. And, you know, people get conned. I have to say, I haven't seen anyone got conned who didn't deserve it. I mean, Robbie, you could disagree, but that in Borat, like the people that he exposes, like, as racists,

kind of, they are racist. Racists. Yeah. You know, all they're doing is. It's not like they are. Yeah, it's not like he got someone who's a good non-racist person to pretend to be racist. It's like, I mean, he gets them, you know, and he goes to the rodeo and gets them all to sing like a perverted version of the national anthem. He gets, he goes to that, you know, that, I think it's in Texas, right? Like with the uptight, like, manners people. And, you know, they are uptight manners people. I mean, it's all like, I don't know. I guess my point is, he is funny.

Although, look, humor is inherently subjective, you know, obviously. But this cartoonist likes him. He is a hymroid that needs to be cut out and send them off. I'm glad that you have this. I'm seriously, I love the diversity of opinion here. It's great. I love it. Agreed.

So, Robbie, I'm not mad at all. So not that you would. Accept it. Except everything you're saying. But that means that funny. Garry Kasparov, best player on the planet. Best player to ever play chess. Full-blown lunatic in regards to Russian problems.

Yeah, total. Like, yeah, total asshole that way, right? I mean, I mean, look, I mean, Jesus Christ, you can sit there and say this about a million people. I mean, you know, I mean, there are a lot of people think Roger Waters is a terrible person, you know, the lead singer of Pink Floyd. Yeah. I don't, I don't think

I have no problem with his politics at all. That man is going to heaven regardless. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Like Big Floyd made, you know, yeah. Yeah, I think he's a, I think he's fucking genius. I'm trying to think of the album. Oh, look, Johnny Rotten, aka Johnny Leighton of the Sex Pistols

and Public Image Limited, right? He's got stupid fucking politics. He's a right-winger. He's a Tory. And it's like, all right, still a fucking amazing punk rocker, you know. Yeah. Yeah, it's just complications of life. Yeah. All right.

I mean, honestly, we laugh at absurd stuff. I was watching before we came on. I didn't do the show this morning because I was like four days today. I was watching this criminal lawyer that he does like sometimes reviews. And there was a scene in it where it's a real case where the cops or the guy was like, And they found the mom with an axe in her head. And the kid was the only one that was there. And a lawyer comes back on is like, okay, little Johnny, how did mom get the ax in her head?

Right? And started laughing at the shit. And it's like, that's not funny, but that's so fucking funny. We laugh at home and stuff. Like, got to. Gotta. And like, you know, and like, look, every day there's fucking crazy shit to, you know, to talk about like here okay so this morning this this showed up in uh in my feed on um let me put

this the fucker up okay so this was this isn't on my ex feed this is this is this is u.s. immigration and customs enforcement a federal agency of the united states government also known as ice and they they did this obviously AI generated version of like a world war one style propaganda poster and it shows patriots and it shows like the evolution, or I would say de-evolution, of American military or pseudo-military people, from the American colonial army up through World War I, because that sort of looks like a general Pershing era soldier, and then up to this masked ice goon.

I'm like, one thing here is not like the other. One soldiers are different than, what the fuck? There's a radical difference between a military and a police force. Right. Radical difference. One kills. Like, when it's designed to kill the enemy. Americans preferably not the enemy.

The idea that they're using as in a military capacity is very telling. It is telling. And it's also telling that the ice guy is masked, right? Yes, yes. And nobody else is. Right. Right. It's like, why has everybody else face?

not covered because the other ones aren't pussies who are afraid of being dogged. Yeah. All right. What should we get into next? By the way, I'm trying to, I saw Storah apparently hit another airport and apparently hit the Defense Ministry of Saudi Arabia.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get into the Middle East, right? Because there's a lot going on here. So in no particular order, the West Bank has now been sealed off, sort of like a la Gaza so that no goods can go in and out. I guess they're going to then yahoo's like hey it worked awesome that time let's do it again

and by the way that's obvious though that's again that's not a Israel only had a certain amount of force to dispense in a particular area in which case was Gaza and now they're just expanding the force into the Westpac they were just using the settlers to do it that's the way they could say well it's not us it's not us and again like when that report that reporter was um beaten viciously beaten and put it in the hospital. Who was standing there to protect the soldiers? I mean, to protect the settlers,

Israeli soldiers. Right. And it's like, look, you know, these two, these five Israeli soldiers were in Hebron. Okay. You shouldn't be there. You don't belong there. You're in a place illegally without permission from the actual authorities.

You shouldn't be there. So something bad happens to you. I'm sorry. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Well, I'm not going to lose it to sleep over it anyway, whether they're supposed to be there or not, because they're not supposed to be there either way. That's my, yeah. I mean, for God's sake, man, you guys have slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people. Why am I going to give a shit about your soldiers being hit?

Like, I mean, like, imagine, like, and this is like the insanity of the way the news media reports this stuff, it's like, these Israeli soldiers were killed. Right. As if it's in a vacuum. Right. It's not in a vacuum. Or they were like in some sort of legitimate conflict zone if such a thing exists. Yeah. Or Kamala Harris recently talking about, well, there was a war going on in the United States who did use his leverage.

Like, shut up. Maybe Sasha Bering, Cohen can do a comedy skit about it. Maybe. He probably would. He probably saying. No one here, no way to do it. She's such a turd. He is.

Let's talk about Saudi Arabia, though. Okay. So the U.S. is told, you know what's next. you know the, you know, basically all non-essential personnel have been ordered out. There's that whole Davos in the desert thing has been canceled. The airport's been closed for the better part of 10 days, and there's no sign of it. It's supposed to reopen today, but it probably won't. And so basically, the Houthis are going to just keep hitting them.

They can't export their oil. The Saudis are in a world of pain, and they're cornered. They're boxed in. They can't get the only product that they make out of the country. They can't host any tourists or any business people. Their shit keeps getting blown up. What are they going to do? I mean, when you're boxed in, you either have to figure out a game changer that gets you out

or you have to negotiate and surrender. What are they going to do? prayer. That's not a plan. Sorry, prayer. Prayer is not a plan. On their knees,

face down, prayer. They better say a hellful prayer, because that's the thing that's going to pull their ass out of the fire. I mean, for one, MBS is a ridiculous leader

to have started this war. Two, they've earned this. Earned it. And the earning of it hasn't necessarily been extinguished yet. They've earned this shit. Third,

they're going to have to come to terms. Period. They can't keep this up. And the idea of Turkey or Pakistan, I mean, the United States military that spends a trillion dollars was involved in the war, and the United States had to back down.

What the hell are these other countries going to do? Like Saudi Arabia is one of the most expensive militaries in the world. What the hell are these other countries going to do? And what are you going to do? Have four or five countries going against one of the poorest countries in the region? They don't seem to be. be all that interested in getting directly involved in the war. Egypt might, right? But up to this point, we haven't necessarily seen troops on the ground. Egypt is definitely slow walking this.

Like, yeah, they have a mutual defense pact brand, you know, freshly minted, ink is still is still wet on the super. Well, I don't think Egypt does. Is that part of Mecca Alliance? Egypt is a newcomer to the thing saying they're going to get involved. I thought Egypt had already made their commitment that they would defend Saudi Arabia. You mean recently over the last couple of days? No, I mean, over the last couple of weeks. Cici came on and said it so. But in the very beginning, the Megapak was Burkia and Pakistan.

Right. Egypt is part of it. But yeah, but I mean, but I mean the thing is they, I think it's one of those like Cs kind of like, well, yeah. I know we kind of said we would, but we don't want to because it's not a, it's not good for us. Well, Hansarola made the point of saying we would shut down the Suez Canal if you do some shit. like that yeah there's certainly egypt is within range so there's no yeah easily i'm kidding it's like they could hit cairo you know yeah it's like you see what's happened in saudi arabia and riat they hit riat today they hit the defense minister today they think that the defense minister might be killed

they hit iramco right and iramco also and an airport today and so it's like if the defense minister of of Saudi Arabia is dead as a result of the strike that took place today because they believed that he was in the building. Oh my God. Like this is talking about upside down world. It is upside down world. It's leveling one of the richest countries. True. It's just amazing to watch. And again, you look at it and you think it's the ultimate triumph of asymmetric warfare, right? Yes, it is. A dune, man, you got to read Dune. You got to redo. I will read Dune. I will read Dune God Emperor explains all read Dune. explains all of this.

So they make the point of saying, if you don't, if you allow smaller, let's say, planets, but in this case, countries to develop technologically, inevitably you get to the point where they're able to deal with countries that are much larger than the smaller country, in which case they can balance out power in an asymmetric way. The reason why God emperor never let planets develop was because of Ansarla. That's the exact reason. that crazy. So, I mean, it's wild to me that in the 60s, they were saying the same thing. Yeah. Well, I mean, in a way, things never change. I was just, I was working on a cartoon next week,

making fun of the whole idea of, I mean, this is kind of like now, right now, Russia is, you know, increasing strikes against Ukraine because they're preparing for peace talks and they want to be in a better position to negotiate. And I was thinking like the Americans did the same thing before the Paris peace talks that sort of drew the basically. began the beginning of the end of the Vietnam War. Everyone always does that. I did a cartoon about that. It's like basically everyone always does that. Nothing ever really changes. Yeah, they tried to get the best position possible before the peace talks. And yeah, I strongly suspect that the peace talks are because of new contacts is taking place. Ukraine has been taken apart. Oh, yeah. And the Yalta

meeting coming up, well, they're not calling it Yalta, but that's what it is. It's Yalta 2.0. Yeah, Yalta 2.0. They don't want to say it, but that's what it is. I mean, so, yeah. We're going to carve up the world. They are going to carve up the world. And Europe has no seat at the table. Well, colonialists of no seat at the table. It is a colonialist mentality. Let me make a, let me play devil's advocate here and play and kind of say like, look,

I don't think Europe or Zelensky should be at the table, maybe ever, but certainly not at this point. Because they've already proven themselves so incredibly unreasonable and unwilling to negotiate. I mean, at a certain point, it's like, look, this is a proxy war, you know, between the U.S. and Russia. And I mean, you know, and it's kind of like, all right, so the U.S. and Russia have to fucking resolve it. And it's good to have China at the table because China has tried to position itself as a negotiator in matters like this. And they're perfect. And, you know, they kind of know both sides. I think it makes sense. And it's kind of like, Let me put another way to look out it is, let's just say you had peace negotiations only between the two, you know, combatants, Russia and Ukraine.

I don't see, I would have very low hopes for anything meaningful being achieved there. I mean, I was sorry. The Ukrainians are serious, you know? Well, I don't believe that Ukraine is the main combatant. I think the U.S. is the main combat. Right. I know, like, meaning all of this is taking place through Ukraine. Yes, Lenski would have to run into the next room every now and then and be like, oh, listen, hold on a second.

I got to go check with the boss. right? The real conversation. I mean, look at what happened. The day before, Zelensky is like, we're going to fight back. We're going to take back Crimea and all this other stuff. And then he gets a stern talking to by Rubio and by Whitkoff basically, shut the eff. You're not going to get weapons. You're not going to get intelligence. You're not going to get Starlink. You're not going to get anything. You're just going to get pummeled. Shut up. And what did you say? When Zeliski came back out, yes, I'm willing to see territory and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, Zelensky's latest is that he's willing to freeze the conflict at the current line of control.

Right, which Russia's not going to do. Now, they will talk to you about. Russia wants a little more, yeah. Well, Peskov has probably should get Odette. I would say if the Russians can walk away with Odessa and, you know, some kind of buffer demilitarized buffer zone, like 100 miles east-west, they'd probably be okay. They're not stopping this war up until the point where they, you know, they're. find security guarantees for all of Europe, meaning they're looking for new security architecture of Europe, which I would like to point out is what Putin was asking for five years ago,

meaning Russia is going to win this war. But actually, Putin wasn't really asking. Let's be serious here. Putin was not asking for a new security architecture. He was merely asking for the West to adhere to its commitments that are decades old, that it already made, you know, back, you know, that it made to Gorbachev and then and then to Yeltsin and so on. And they, you know, even drunk Yeltsin complained about this NATO expansion shit and was constantly ignored. Yeah. I guess my point is Putin is going to get the security architecture of Europe and Russia that he wanted.

And unfortunately, a lot of people had to die for him to get it. But that's basically what this is. When Peskov is talking, when Putin is talking, most recent interviews, they were like, yeah, this conversation is not going to be limited. it to just Russia and Ukraine because it's not just about Russia and Ukraine. It's about the expansion of NATO. Ukraine is just the proxy for it. And so his thing is like, look, this conversation is going to include a new security architecture of Europe. That's what it is. Now, I'm talking about between Ukraine, Putin, and, well, let's say Ukraine, the United States and Russia. Yeah, they're

looking at it as a new security architecture of Europe, which is good. And they shouldn't have had to have, you know, two, three million people dead. And by the way, ironically, what I would tell Europe, including the Ukrainians and the polls, I would say this will actually keep you more secure and you will be able to spend less money on defense. This is a win for everybody. This is how it should have been a long time ago. Well, it's not exactly a way for Europe. Europe has been hollowed out in this world.

Well, look at what's going on in France. And we're going to talk about the youth protests. But, I mean, these countries, I mean, France is like, I mean, here they are. amping up their military spending at the same time that their economy is in disaster because they're in monstrous amounts of debt so much so that they can't fix their schools and as a result the country's burning down but you know there hasn't been a word from Emmanuel Macron or his allies about reducing defense spending I mean that's rough because they started the countries have been burning down their economies for this particular war see that's what I mean I don't know if this is the

if this from Europe's point of view is a good thing. I think they're freaked out about the idea of peace. I mean, from their point of view, the U.S. is carving us up. And I agree with you. I had this argument with one of my guests one day. Well, like, why should Europe be at the table? But meaning they're a pointless entity. I mean, I know they were colonists, but they're a tick on the ass of America.

They are not a power unto themselves. They are used. This conflict, yeah, they're financing the Ukrainians, but that's their own. They're using this as a lens of power, but they're using the United States as that lens. They are not a power unto themselves. Europe is falling apart. But they're also not relevant to the conflict, really, in a medium. They're not relevant.

Well, I mean, they've been putting a bunch of money into it, and they've been burning their economists for it. So you can say they're relevant in that sense, but more fool them for doing that. Right. Like, your response. Look, my biggest issue was Zelensky's responsibility was to Ukraine, just like the European leader's responsibility is to Europe. It doesn't matter if the United States wants to push them to stop using energy or to get more into a war footing.

If it's not in the country's best interest, they shouldn't do it. More fool them for doing that. And maybe they should grow up. And I know they're, you know, colloquially. I have a question for both of y'all. Grow the fuck up. Do you all think that Russia will push this to transnistria? Because there's that there's that enclave there.

I don't. And if Russia sees. If Putin sees himself as the guardian, not of the Russian state, best Russian nation. That is, no, the people. Would he? I think he does now. But I don't know if he's going to push that far. I mean, maybe it would stop him.

And what, well, I think, because I think ultimately Putin wants the deal. I don't think he wants to take all of Ukraine. Well, he doesn't. But that southern coastline looks awfully appetizing. And that creates, that solves a lot of problems. It creates the land bridge to Crimea solved. The Russians over Transistria are linked up with the motherland. Ukraine at that point, it becomes landlocked.

It becomes a permanent rump state. I mean, if I was a maximalist gains, that's what I would do. Yeah, I don't think, exactly. And I don't think Putin's a maximalist. Yeah, I think he's a balancer. Like, I don't think he's, that's this, I think he's like a bureaucrat. I don't think, I don't think he wanted this war for one. I think you would prosecute the war if he needed to.

but he was pushed into prosecuting the war. It was Ukraine's escalation that pushed them further and further into the war. I even had a pet theory that Donald Trump was like, will you get this over with? I even had a pet theory of that, that Trump didn't give a shit about Ukraine, meaning regardless of the U.S. policy towards Ukraine,

Trump all that much didn't care. And at a certain point, if you remember, Trump was like, all right, well, if these two, maybe they need to fight it out. Right. Well, I think Trump private, I mean, what goes on in Trump's heart of hearts, kind of in a way, it doesn't really matter because what matters is policy.

But it is interesting. And it kind of, I mean, if his heart's not into it, that means he will look for an excuse to get out of it and back away from this project. Because at one point, if you remember, he was like, well, maybe they just need to fight it up. And it's like, fight it out. Ukraine is getting crushed. And he's like, well, maybe he just wants them crushed in order to bend them in the form in a particular way, but they don't have a choice. Or maybe he just doesn't really care. care. Well, I don't think that's probably true. Yeah, but I think U.S. policy is the care about Ukraine,

which puts them in a box. But at the point where they don't really care about Ukraine, U.S. to put a fine point on it, right, like U.S. policymakers, they don't care about the Ukrainian people. They care about Ukraine as a, as a wedge. It's a way to break apart Russia, to lessen them, to make them not an empire, to weak. weaken them to and to bring a military, a hostile military block right up to their border. Yeah, they want to be. The Ukrainians are being exploited here. They're being used.

That's an understatement. That's an understatement. And every time they have these Democrats with these flagpins and everything else, it's like just. Yeah, I mean, I kind of feel like, you know, look, you guys are at war and it sucks for you, but you're kind of idiots about this. You kind of like, you know, this is kind of like, you know, I mean, just think about like, you look at the map and you're like, listen, any a seven year old could look at a map and say clearly Ukraine where it is needs to learn how to get along well with its big neighbor and probably doesn't need to listen that much to the other people who say that they're their friends who live on the other side of a big continent plus a big ocean away. You know, they're not really, it's not that important to them to get along with, to be, and for them to be like, you know, I mean, it's kind of like, hey, you know, leave your, leave your wife, I'll be good to you, you know, I love you, I give you sex every night, it'll be great, I'll cook for you, every night, every night, so much sex, so it'll be good. And like, but the U.S. has been singing that song. I mean, it's like, you know, hey, Saddam, how's that working out for you? That a lot. everybody yeah how's hey mr kadafi how's that working out for you mr noriega how'd that go for you and so and it goes on and on right like these a former u.s clients that have all been you know just

thrown into the woodchipper one after another and i mean ukrainians you guys should read some history really yeah i mean millions of people are dead i mean a catastrophe like again if they can settle it i want to settle it but they're going to settle it on russian terms that needs to be very clear at this point. Like maybe people, people need to everybody. It's great. Even Robert Kagan's got to secretly know this is true, right? Even Ann Apple, Applebaum knows secretly that this is true. And all of these people have lost. And all of that money that was spent on Ukraine was for not. Russia is stronger today than it was before the war. It's much stronger military, much stronger military capacity from a standpoint of a technological capacity, much more industrial capacity from that

standpoint. It's geopolitical standing is like much of, yeah. Just a beast and the same thing for Iran, right? Like, meaning all of this, this naked aggression has found itself to be not. Do you know what Europe reminds me of? Apollo Creed from Rocky 2. Yep. I beat that man. I beat that man.

They just kept coming. Yep. That's Europe. You're a fighter, you're past your heyday, and you're in love with a limelight. So you decide one last brawl. Let's see what happens. The problem is that the problem is that he's in shape. Yeah, got beat the shit out of you in the ring.

And by the way, legally, legally kills you in the ring. Right. Right. God, man, those movies were so good. They're so good. I should do a, I should do a rocky, you know, personal home, home festival, a home festival, just watch them all all the way through the second Creed one. Well, see, I didn't get into Creed.

I stopped that, I think, the last Rocky. I mean, it was sad. It's five, right? It's the last Rocky. Rocky Five is the last not watching. Yeah, that's what I stopped watching. Because it's a little bit, like, seeing it modern is a little weird for some reason. Yeah, yeah.

But I guess I would give Creed a chance. I haven't watched Creed one or two. I haven't watched it yet. I would give it a chance. I'm not a big fan of the actor. Yeah, me neither. But they're favorably reviewed, so, I mean. Well, then we all have to go to New York, Ted, and hang out with you.

Film festival. Yeah. All right. Yeah, that's going to take multiple days. Okay, so what else? So we should, yeah. So we need to, we have a lot more to talk about. So we should move on.

What do you want to talk about? And by the way, that event's going to take place in Abu Dhabi, apparently sometime in November between Ukraine, Russia, and the U.S. Okay, that'll be, yeah. So I guess we'll have to ask the Houthis not to bomb it. I know. I know. I know, right?

Guys. Could you please that hit Abu Dhabi. it. Yeah. By the way, do we care about the Peter Thiel thing? I thought it was interesting. Yeah, let's talk about the Peter Thiel thing. Peter Thiel only cares because he's losing the war. Yep. Peter Thiel said, he said, yeah, and it's frustrating up the entire global economy. Yeah, but that misanthrope doesn't care. He just cares about himself and it's well. Right, right. Yeah. He said we should not have done it privately. And, you know, so these, I mean, you're seeing fractures here in the, you know, in MAGA world over the Iran war, over a bunch of other stuff.

We'll talk about the, you know, the Maha thing too, because I think that's interesting. It's more interesting than what it looks like, you know. But let's talk about it. I mean, the, so Kali means who. First of foremost, just for the audience, Maha is make America healthy again. Right. So this is the RF, this is basically the main point of RFK Jr. Right.

Being the head of the Department of Health and Human Services. By the way, I backed that. I was for them. Oh, me too. Me too. I was the only, I kept telling everyone I knew, like, the one thing I was excited about, about a Trump's second administration, was that and Tulsi Gabbard. Same here. And it's like, well, Tulsi, that didn't work out well. So make America health. So here's the thing.

Okay, so this is a public thing. Callie Means has just quit. He's, so, and basically he publicly said, thank you know thanks the president for the opportunity to serve but behind closed doors he's telling friends like listen there's just too much influence from big food and big pharma and they're not letting me do anything the lobbyist so just got me frozen up and i don't need to hear that those rumors from him to know that that's clearly the case um i mean just from the fact that look this presidential and second presidential administration is now about to enter its third year and there has been no

of note that is important to Maha world, right? I mean, we should all be Maha, right? We should all be into getting rid of, you know, factory farms and highly processed foods that are poisoning us. You know, we should have at least the same standards as the EU, which is what RFK Jr. had promised. We never see RFK Jr. He is, has nothing to, he's not allowed to talk, which is just as well, because he obviously has nothing to announce. And there's obviously he has no room to maneuver in the administration. He does not have a portfolio that allows him to kick ass and take names. So he's basically been gelded and it sucks for him, I guess. It really sucks for the American people and for the hundreds of thousands of people who are dying needlessly of cancer every year.

Well, not just cancer. I mean, like everything else. And the key reasons that are bad. him talking about childhood illnesses. Like, that was his thing, right? It's like all of these kids have autism. All of these kids have some kind of illness. This is abnormal in comparison to like the 60s or whatever particular date. And what changed over this period of time and goes into this argument of food additives and things that are added to our foods and things that are in our environment.

I think he's right. Right. And they're hitting him on the vaccine stuff. But even on the vaccine stuff, his argument was basically like, look, we should test these like we test any other drug. why are these, you know, away from tests? And I got to be honest with you, when people are screaming, no, no, no, we shouldn't test it. It makes me think those should be tested.

Right. Totally. But there's more of a reason to do something, not less. When I hear people scream, like, you can't do this. And it's like, well, that's strange. You test everything else. Why this? I mean, scientists are always like, well, I mean, we haven't seen an alien,

so I mean, I can't believe that an alien exists. And it's like, well, we haven't seen dark matter either, but you believe that misdifference. thing exists. But I'm sorry, that's pet peeve. Sorry, pet pee. But the RFK thing, I think I agree with you. They neutered him. And you think it's like, what is the power? You've been a lot longer than I have. So you have more knowledge power than I do on this stuff. What is the power that lobbyists have? I mean, they're just putting money into particular sources, right? I mean, what are missing? Because they're not, I mean, unless he means, well, they also make. Well, they also make

The other thing is they make these legislators lazy. I mean, they literally, these lobbyists literally, you know, they come in with high-powered lawyers. And they literally say to congressmen and senators, like, hey, listen, we really want you to do this or that. And by the way, here's the exact text of the bill that you could propose. And they literally write the bill. And in many cases, those bills have been signed into law that were written

word for word by a lobbying firm. But they don't need lobbyists in order to make policy from a standpoint of health, right? I mean, like, meaning RFK is a right? He's a cabinet member, right? I mean, he can issue all sorts of executive, not presidential executive orders, but he has immense regulatory control over the FDA. What I'm doing. He's like, he's like, and the CDC.

I mean, he's been. Basically, he is the nation's health czar. He has more power than Fauci did during the pandemic. So what does the lobbyists have to do with internal policies? So what's going on is if RFK is going to the president, for example, and buttonalling him and said, sir, I'd really like to, you know, impose, you know, let's just say he's like radical. I really want to, you know, we have midterms coming up. We really do need to come through for the situation.

agenda. We got especially a lot of moms signed up and voted for you in 20 in 20 in 20 in 20 in 20 in 24 like let's come through let's adapt the EU food standards right safe food safety standards for example. And then he would and then let's say President Trump doesn't is all for it. He's like good idea Bobby I'll take care of it then he tells he tells you know Susie Wiles the chief of staff, you know, I'm going to do something for Bobby Kennedy here. Let's do this. Then Susie Wiles gets, you know, she starts to get direct meetings or she hears about indirect meetings from these lobbyists who are coming from craft foods and, you know, McDonald's and all these big corporations. And they're like, do you realize how many jobs are going to be,

how many people McDonald's is going to have to fire if we do this? Do you realize a McDonald's, you realize a quarter pounder, a happy meal is going to be $25. You realize how much inflation is going to be. So they basically, they use arguments that are, you know, based in truth. And they make shit up too. But basically, they put pushback. And they're like, listen, we will start, you know, if you really push us, we'll start to donate to your opponents and we will fuck you politically.

So basically they work their magic not just in terms of campaign donations, but they also, they have a seat at the table in a way that like the moms who are just trying to have their kids eat healthily don't. And that's really the big difference. Yeah. We need FDR. We need FDR. Because like this was the, you know, they hate me. You know, I live off their hatred, that type of stuff.

That's what you need because this is just weak. But also FDR appointed a lot of. of cabinet members who and he told them like don't let these fuckers in don't talk to them yeah just do your job and also then and TR was like even more extreme because the trust buster he didn't only have cabinet members who shared his vision he also invited like left wing muckraker journalists into the office the corridors of power and gave them carte blanche to sit in on cabinet and departmental meetings and to look at any files that they wanted to and ordered the government to cooperate them with them fully. Basically, it was like, hold,

like, hold our feet to the fire. Like, I want you to, like, lean on me. Sort of like when, it's kind of analogous to when LBJ met privately with, you know, MLK and said, like, you know, hey, listen, I need you to get out there with some protests. And we, this never happened, but I need you to out there and like say bad things about me so that I can claim I'm pressured by you guys. It's like that. Yeah. Yeah, but the difference is Trump is not, I don't think he'll have to me look here. See, here's the thing.

The older you get. He didn't care about, this is not a, he's not a maha guy himself, right? You know what I mean? I mean, like the reality of it is you, Trump is 80-something years old or 80 years old. He's old. He's tired. And I know for myself, the older you get, the tireder. You get, like, meaning you don't have the energy to do that stuff.

You don't have the vigor to care about all these other issues like that. I don't think he cares. I mean, you need, and that's the sad part. And it's not near and dear to him, right? It's not like, you know, I mean, there's stuff that's near and dear to you. Like he, like, for example, near and dear to him is he doesn't drink because his brother drank himself to death. I bet if you had some kind of anti-alcohol thing, he'd be a lot more interested in that because of. his own personal experience.

Maybe. More so, but this is a guy who eats at McDonald's. He does not care. Yeah. Trump cares about money. That's it.

He cares about enriching himself. Yeah. And making stuff look good. He's a narcissist. And he does not care. He doesn't, you know, the thing is, I know that he's not all bad

as a supervisor, but he does, he doesn't understand one thing you got to do as a boss, which is you've got to make, you've got to make things worthwhile for the people beneath you. You've got to give them accomplishments.

You've got to give them. He needs to give Bobby Kennedy a reason to tell Cheryl Hines, guess what I got it? You know, guess what the president's doing for me? And he doesn't, you know, Trump doesn't manage that way. I mean, but he doesn't have any power unto himself in that office. Right. This is, because it makes Trump.

That's my point. And it takes away agency from RFK, like, meaning he may just not know what the fuck he's doing in that job. Yeah. So I don't know. I'm just saying that office has been dormant. Dormant is all hell. And all the things that, you know, because it was like, we're going to change things.

We're, you know, Europe has all of these, you know, seven foods that are generally recognized as safe. We have hundreds. And he's making a decent case. Like, and again, you're talking to somebody who had childhood illness, right? So my thing is like, was I broken from the beginning? or did I get broken from some environmental circumstance? Which one is it? Or is it a little bit of both? I mean, I think we're poisoning ourselves.

And so the agency that's supposed to be involved in looking to that stuff, in fact, I'll go further. I think kids get weaker over the course of their generations. So let's say my dad gets renal failure at, I don't know, 60. I get it at 17. Or my grandfather gets a certain cancer at, let's say, 70 something. And then my uncle gets it at 40s and then somebody else gets it in their younger ages. I think we're getting weaker as society in general.

Even the sperm count. Like even that, like, and I know that's... Well, that's not even. That's like for, that's a big indicator. I mean, our fertility rate is way low. Motility rate is lower. Sperm counts are lower. I mean,

microplastics are in our brains. They're in our sperm. They're in our babies. We're doing something wrong. That's my point. And it behooves us to figure it out. As a software engineer, if I'm coming into a company and there's like, let's say Amazon, Amazon is not as complicated as the human body, meaning the application.

But I guarantee you if there's something wrong in it, it will be a pain in it as you to find it. Like you can do stuff. Well, you don't even know that you've done. That's wrong. And you find out, you know, later when there's some kind of math at you that comes up and you're like, why is that number that way? Okay, now I need to figure out what the hell is going on. Maybe it's that.

We are proceeding very fast and we're missing basic things that may be affecting the human being that we may not even be looking for. Yeah, no, I agree. And look, that's related to this coral reef story too, right? I mean, which we should touch upon. Yeah. So, you know, look, they've been sounding the alarm about coral reefs. Coral reefs are super important.

There are deep sea and there are shallow water coral reefs. And very simply, coral reefs can live within a certain temperature range and waters have just gotten too hot and now they're dying. Now, the thing is, I'm a scuba diver and it's gotten to the point where, which is one of the reasons I know that like the U-KRdstream 2 story is bullshit. it. But like, it is really hard for divers to go anywhere in the world now and find a living coral reef. Big sections of the Great Barrier Reef in Australia are bleached out. And when I say bleach, what basically means is, like, when you think about like classic coral reef, there's like a zillion bright neon colors of like the coral and weird shapes. It's like living on it, looking at alien world and there's tons of eels and and lobsters, spiny lobsters and there's,

and there's crazy amounts of brightly colored tropical fish. It's like an aquarium on acid, right? Now you go and like if you go to some place like a traditional dive site like in Trinidad or Belize or some place like that, you're just going to, you're going to die and there's going to be dead coral, which are, you know, you know the dead coral like when you walk on the beach, you pick up like a piece of dead coral. It's like basically a rock with like holes in it. So that's what's underwater. It's just a big white block.

And there's a couple of like strings of grass, seed grass, and a few fish here and there. And you're like, look, there's an angel fish. Okay, but they're supposed to be 50,000 of them, not two. And so they're gone. And it's 99.99% gone. These days, you have to go to like bikini Atoll where they had the nuke tests in the Pacific or certain parts of Cuba where they're very careful about not overfishing and stuff. Even there, because of the water temperatures changes, they're going to be gone.

So should we care? Yeah, because basically they're the lungs of the ocean. The coral reef is like what helps sustain and balance the ocean. So they're gone. They're toast. They're all going to be gone by the year 27. according to the science. There's nothing we can do.

Nothing. It's not, they ain't coming back. I mean, and if the oceans are toast, even though we don't see them, they're three quarters of the planet. And I mean, I know it sounds like, you know, Dr. Reese right now. But it's, I mean, we're in a world of pain. And this should be something that we are prioritizing. And we're not.

We're not even talking about it. Yeah. I mean, until people are economically sound. we won't be talking about. Nope. Like, look, the reality of it is the reason why, like, they make jokes about climate, people who care about the climate as left-wing looms and stuff like that, I think it's partly because oftentimes those people need to be sound, like they need to be secure.

If my kid is not straight, do I really care about there are oceans? And you can say, well, you should, but I'm going to say, well, I care about my kid being and have to eat. Yes, we should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Yes, we should hear about this because we should want to leave a planet to the people who came after us, right? It's just kind of a responsibility issue. Yeah. Plus, if we're all, if once our race is gone, you know, the human race, then what are we how much, how meaningful was our existence after we're gone? You know, even less meaningful than it, than it would be. Well, no. I mean, if that's the case, then life doesn't matter in general.

Humanity will blink out of existence at some point. Yeah. It's just like everything dies. Yeah. But just because you die doesn't necessarily mean that the meaning is gone from it. Right. But when your species is gone, maybe the meaning, there's even less meaning, right? I don't think so.

I mean, but if that's true, then life doesn't matter at all. Probably not. You will blink out at some point as a name of it. I don't think life. I mean, I don't think. Life doesn't really have meaning. Life is just a fun ride that you just go on. No, you give it meaning.

Conscious gives it meaning. Meaning the fact that a thing exists and that a thing can perceive gives it meaning. It gives it value. It doesn't have meaning in and of itself, but the meaning that the person gives it has to be enough. I think that's why people invoke God often. It feels like it's not enough for the individual,

that it needs something external. It needs something else. But regardless of whether or not there's anything else, from a corporal sense, the meaning is given to it by the entity that perceives. Like I guess my point is, if that's true, that humanity doesn't matter if it blinks out of existence, then it just doesn't matter because it will blink out of existence. Well, it will eventually, for sure. There's no question about that.

It has to be what we give it. Which gives it more value, by the way, the fact that it's... Temporary. Yeah. Annamondarake says, of course Ted and Jermondi says, of course Ted and Jermond. Marl are naive about Sasha Barron Cohen and his ilk. He's a freak who uses comedy to sell his racism and Israel. We accept that.

We even said it. True. It's still funny. I'm not saying that it's good. I'm saying it's good. I'm saying it's funny. Right. And yes, he's, yeah, he's a scientist. I mean, I'm not saying, we're accepted.

Okay, so this is weird. I've got to read this. two pieces of breaking news, both relating to America's principal conflicts. This one is involving Melania Trump, of all people. Melania has brokered an upcoming ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine in the city of Olashki to allow for humanitarian aid and evacuation of civilians. The localized ceasefire is set to begin in six days, October 29th. The White House said that Melania initiated the discussions and that she and a representative worked directly with the Russian and Ukrainian leaderships to negotiate this. She said that she's made helping children in the conflict one of

her signature issues. Putin keeps bringing her up. And it's annoying. You think he's horny for her? No, I think he's trying to manipulate Trump. I think this is psychological, I think they've done psychological analysis and from their point of view, flattering Trump is a way to go. Well, clearly, I don't need, I don't need FSB psychologists to tell me that. Well, right. Zillinsky hadn't added the alert. Yeah. Because if you notice, he's antagonizing Trump over and over and over again, believing that the U.S. media and that the U.S. political establishment would be enough, or for that matter, that Democrats coming in would be enough to effectively allow him to keep going. And I think he's,

misperceiving that. You know, several months before Congress starts, even if Trump gets smart, you still got like three months. I like it happening three months, especially to somebody named Zelensky, who a lot of people don't like with all of these Nazis

and all of these other groups that are around in Ukraine. Zelensky better sleep with one aisle. Yeah, agreed with that. And over in, over in Palestine, In a visit to Israeli-occupied Hebron, Netanyahu says he plans to carry out an extensive military operation in the West Bank, unlike any seen since the Six-Day War of 1967. He said that a swath of Hebron will be cleared of residence and demolished to do exactly what they did to the refugee camps in Janine and Tulkar. Yep, yeah.

He's kind of revel in space before the election. He knows what's, God, man, what's wild about that is that he knows they loved the killing. They loved the slaughter and the genocide. We loved it. There's been so much, but there's never enough. Yeah, there's never enough. We need to do it in the West Bank now. That's how I'm going to get elected.

Yeah. Like if 90% or 80% of the public was like, yes, we love the killing of Muslims. We love you doing it. He's probably going to lose next week, nevertheless, right? I mean, so, yeah. I mean, I was doing trying to wrap up his. I heard a report yesterday that of just person, like, that seven New Yorkers were like among this, they just interviewed people randomly, were Israeli citizens who were flying back

to Israel only to vote against Netanyahu, like, because there's no absentee balloting in Israel. And people hate Israel. They hate Netanyahu so much that they're willing to. They're willing to spend thousands of dollars each to go vote against him. God bless them. Good for them. Self-hating Jews.

There we go. You know, they're just, they're a bee-hating Jews. Yeah. Well, I mean, but they really, they're like, they self-hating Jews. That's the way the line is like all of them. No, good on them. God bless them. Yeah.

They're doing God's work. Hopefully we can get Professor Abrahat to come back and explain exactly what that's That was very enlightening, I thought. Yeah. And by the way, I need to get the information for what's his name? Oh, yeah. Okay. Remind me.

What of the name? Oh, Thadius. Thadius. That's it. Thadius Russell. That's it. Thadius. General.

That is such a good name. It's such a bad-ass name. So good. Yeah, my, my, I wish my, mom, wherever you are. Why didn't you name me Thadius? All right. So we had a question about, we had a couple of questions about Elhan Omar. We should probably talk about her.

Let's sit there. So there's two main stories here. One is that she announced that she's leaving, because of the federal raid against her house that happened at 4.30 in the morning. And she was careful to say that the FBI agents were individually well-behaved, I guess, except for knocking on her door at 4.30 in the morning. But that they were individually well-behaved. Like they were from-in-law-apparently.

They were well-behaved. Exactly. But she's having to move out of her house because her address got reported in the international press. And now she says she's receiving all sorts of death threats at her home for her and her family and she's moving out. I'm torn about that story. On the one hand, I'm kind of like, okay.

So on the one hand, I totally see her concern. And obviously it's a terrible, they shouldn't have raided her house. It's disgusting and racist. Secondly, they should not have imperiled her family, and they shouldn't have done this at all. On the other hand, should she have any special privileges that another citizen would have? Pardon? Let me hear you. What's going on?

Do you not hear me? What's going on? Robbie, which one is it? Is it me or Ted? I hear Ted just fine. I hear both of you. I hear you, too. Jamarle, I hear you.

You're both. Yeah, so I think probably Jamerall just needs to hit the refresh. To her off and turn it back on. Yeah. Exactly. So, you know, I mean, my take on this Ilhan Omar thing is, I mean, what I just said, but also, should you be entitled to special privileges? I mean, if anybody is rated by the FBI, something like this can, or local police, I mean, you know, you're, you're in for your digits can end up in public. You know, should she be protected from that?

Or should any congressman, because she's a congressman? Let's put Jamaral back in. Hey, how's it going now? Yes, much better. Cool, cool, cool. All right. So what I was saying is, I mean, should she get any special privileges because she's a congressman and because she's a Muslim?

Well, it's not special privilege. You know, against having her information. publicized. Yeah. I mean, anybody would take issue with that. Like if you were, if you said, if somebody put out Ted's on notice and here's his address and phone number, you should give him a call. You have some feelings about that shit. Oh yeah. Especially with people showing up is like, I want to see the tits, Ted. It's like, oh my God, you're going to call the cops, right? Dude shows up at your house. It's like, sure. It's not good. A few months ago. Nobody's going to appreciate that. A few months ago, you don't remember me telling you. You don't remember me telling you.

about this. A couple of fans of the show popped up here at my apartment. Yeah, but that's horrible. Knocked on the door. That's not good. Well, how did you? And by the way, there have been big YouTubers that have had wars over that shit. Like, where one YouTuber is going after another YouTuber and then one YouTuber shows up at the

one, she shows up at the guy's house with her audience. It's like, that's horrible. I've even seen YouTubers like fighting outside of the audience members because the audience was like raiding his house and like having fireworks and shit blown at his house. That is not.

good or calling the cops where they would have a read with the cops will come to the house thinking that somebody is broken in that's not good breaking news uh brent crude has hit the all-time high just now of $116 a barrel citing tensions in the middle east and fears of a renewed conflict i'm surprised it's so low i'm surprised it's that low also i'm shocked it should be 200 because when we were driving like like as you're driving by the station the different gas stations you kind of get a sense of what the thing is and my thing is it's going up answer Allah is it's in oil fields like right it's like they're hitting oil fuels directly they're hitting pipe there's a gas station now in eastern California that's now at $10 a gallon and they're ordering new pumps they're ordering new pumps

to add a fourth digit to their pricing that's insane and by the way this is will be for the foreseeable future. It may not be at the highest price point, but it will be there for the foreseeable future. Oh, yeah. It's not, we're never going to see like $3 again, ever. Think of the number of tankers that were hit. Think of the number of fields that were hit. Saudi Arabia is hiding the amount of damage to take place. Qatar was hiding the amount of damage that took place according to like the boarders articles. Yeah. I have a friend who lives in L.A. He told me that, you know, the fuel prices have gone up so much in California for home, residential heating and air conditioning.

He has a normal apartment, a two-bedroom apartment. Doesn't go crazy, doesn't have the AC blasting with the window open, nothing nuts. AC set at 77, not 67. His utility bill for last month, for under a month, was almost $600. And it's, how much is your BTU rate? Now, the BTU rate in New York City is about seven cents a, BTU. And he told me it's 58 cents now in the local utility. That's insane. That's like Europe.

Yeah. It's like no bullshit. My wife and I, when we were in Czech Republic, it was freezing. And I remember we, the house was great, but it was freezing in Czech Republic. And so we cut the heat up to what we would as a normal American. And when we left, the woman hit us back. It was like, the heating bill is going to be. a thousand dollars what have y'all have been doing yeah it's like it's just normal heating it ended up being like 500 dollars we paid the woman we paid the 500 dollars you have to for a heating bill it wasn't even a month right it's like the cost of heating in europe is insane and i guess california is on that same trajectory i mean that's god that's insane like how do you afford that i used the thing when i was living in dc how do people afford this on the normal

Speaking of money, guys, we haven't seen any donations in this entire show, just saying. But to get back to your point, Ted, about Omar, here's how I see it. If you choose to go into public life, whether you're a podcaster, YouTuber, member of Congress, president, whatever, you do not have any more rights than anybody else does. The Office of Public Records is a thing. Now, one thing that Omar has that no one else has is that she has. has the ability to pay for this thing called security. She has that choice.

She's able to do that. She's not hurting. She has talked about monetizing your job. She is very well off. It's not about the job. She gets she has no more right to privacy than anybody else. Neither does Thomas Master anybody else. Look, I'm not saying she has more of a right to privacy than anybody else.

I'm saying for one, the rate was fucked up. And two, any of us, including her, including any random right winger, would take issue with them doxing her location. That's all. I mean, for one, the raid was politically motivated. There's that. Yeah, you know that information that was put out. Oh, come on. You don't think it was.

I have no idea. I haven't been following it. Oh, well, I strongly consider it being politically motivated. At least that's my motivating point of view. I mean, we know that she would, we know that she was investigated under the previous administration, too. Was that politically motivated? Yes. for being one of the most ineffective sellouts in Congress.

What does the squad actually obstructed? What have they achieved? What have they accomplished other than renaming Mama Bear? Seriously, they've done nothing. They're not Thomas Massey. They've not instructed anything. But they still don't like them. They're not on the same.

They're disliked. The left is hated. from the Democratic Party standpoint. Like, I know from the right, it doesn't seem that way, but the left is hated. And these people who Democrats consider to be the left, Ilhan Omar, AOC, et cetera, those people aren't accepted. I mean, AOC is kind of accepted, but not really.

I mean, I just don't think they'd like her. I mean, they didn't even leap to her defense in any of those. Maybe a word statement by Hakeem Jeffrey. that was, you know, it's kind of inane, oh, this is bad by the Trump administration. But they're not stopping them. They're not stopping the process of government over it. They don't like her. Like imagine if they try to do this to, I don't know, Nancy Pelosi, they would flip out.

They would lose their shit. At least I think so. Ilhan, less so. Maybe. Maybe I'm wrong. But I just don't think. I think that this is all the, I think this is all the, I think this is all the distraction. I think what this is, that could be completely wrong on this, is that Trump is trying

to change the topic and he knows that the Democrats are going to win here in a couple of weeks. Here's some free publicity for me. Y'all get off my back on this whole Iran thing. But see, I don't think this is big enough to change in topic. I think this is just normal policy for Trump. Like when he was going after the African American Museum in D.C., I don't think he was trying to change a topic. I think he was just racist. Like, I think the things that the administration is doing, especially if you're talking about people like, what is this name? What is his name? The guy is like a, he's like an archer Zionist, but he's also like, they always call him a white nationalists. What is his name? He has a bullhead white guy in the Trump administration. You know him if you see him.

Oh, oh, Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller. Yeah. Well, I was confused with Steve Miller from Abercatabra. Yeah, I don't think Donald Trump is moving the levers for this stuff. Like Stephen Miller. who's in this administration. I wouldn't be shocked if he's like pushing some of the, like, hey, hurt. Oh,

this is a consumption. This is a consumption for Main Street. This is for the base of each party. Yeah, out there. And that's what this is. This isn't about John Smith who works at Smith's grocery store. This is,

this is about Trump reaching out to red meat, to the Republicans. And then he's giving a gift to, Hakeen Jeffrey saying, okay, here's something for you Democrats to kind of play with. Meanwhile, we'll work what we really want to talk about while they're squabbling over this hijab wearing lady who may or may not have committed immigration fraud. See, I think in this case, a hammer is a hammer. They just want to get rid of her. But for what? She's ineffective. She's a Democrat. She's Muslim.

So what? I mean, just like when I had the argument with the Muslim, with the Republican on air the other day, what did you bring up? El Said is working with the Muslim Brotherhood. They have a B in their bindered about Muslims. They don't like them. Elkhorn Omar is an easy target. She's a low-hanging fruit. So they're going after, especially in the context of this race.

If they think they can make people think, well, she's not even an American citizen. I mean, she's having sex with her brother. She's blah, blah, blah. Maybe they can get her out of her seat. I mean, she is running against a Republican. Maybe, yeah. I mean, who knows?

But at the end of the day, I just think it's all theater. And to answer your question, Ted, she is not entitled to any other rights to anybody else is. Sorry. But what right? I mean, Robbie, if somebody, if you had a hundred, let's say you, let's say your religious show got 500,000 subs. Uh-huh. And somebody docks true. And you have people that were calling your house, saying bad things about you, bad things to your wife. Yeah, yeah, they're right, Satan is showing up saying, we don't like the fact that you have a show talking about this or Zionist showing up at your

house, shooting your house up and shit. Like, you would have to be. feelings about that. And I would take issue with it also. And I would be saying the exact same thing. This is fucking outrageous. Y'all was talking like this is that this had happened. Ted Robert, what happened last November? Remind me? When you and

John Kariaku were here on this show, what happened to yours truly? Oh yeah. Well, we got, well, you got doxed. Yeah. So I mean, that doesn't make it right. This doesn't happen. But that doesn't make it right. Of course it's not right. But the fact is, though, is that if I can get docks,

And if you can get doxed and if Ted can get doxed, then someone who's in government, who is actively involved in passing laws does not make you immune, especially if you have, if you have an amount of power and an amount of privilege that no one else in this country has. So what? You can afford security. She's perfectly fine. I'm not saying it doesn't have the power to get docs. Anybody has the power to get docs.

I'm saying it's wrong. Of course it's wrong, but it happens. Who cares? Abortion's wrong, yet here we are. Well, I don't think abortion's wrong. That's your take. I'm just making the point of saying all sorts of things can happen. It doesn't mean that it should. And again, from your point of view, abortion can happen.

We're going into a deep program repetition loop. But no, I'm not going to the abortion. I got it. For example, if people show up this type of house of a Supreme Court justice and they're protesting, Is that doxing? Is that wrong? It's kind of doxing. Is it wrong to show up outside of a house of an elected official holding up signs, raising hills, saying, we oppose what you're doing?

I think it's a key. It's a yes or no question. It's not illegal. It's not illegal. If their home is hidden, then maybe it should be. If their home is hidden, then how can you do that? I feel like you have a right. You should have a right to security in your own home. I really do think that.

In your home, yeah. Outside of your home, not some. much. I think this is public spaces. You can hire bodyguards. You'll be fine. She's okay. Okay. Well, again, my point hasn't changed. We have other, we have more important things. Let's talk about those more important things. Yeah. It's not about her. It's about people. So the New York Post, this is, this is stuff that's only in right wing media. And I think one of the things that's good about this show is that we don't just like follow like left wing or right wing media. We try to get everything from everywhere. So the New York Post has a bee in their bonnet about Ilhan Omar.

They say that she's been using a faith name, that Ilhan Omar is not her real name, that she has an identical surname to that of her former husband and supposed rumored brother. According to federal prosecutors, they filed documents in federal court in Minneapolis saying that she is Ilhan Nur-Nur, Syed Elmi, E-L-M-I, a.k.a. Ilhan Abdullani Omar, which the legal experts and officials tell the New York Post is indicative

in terms of the evidence that has been compiled so far. A source close to the investigation confirmed that Omar is not her real last name, meaning she was born with the last name of Elmi, just like her former husband and obviously former husband, but also possible brother. Attorney General Todd Blanche said, I don't think U.S. Assistant District U.S. attorneys would make up names when being asked about this. Evidence that's collected is used in motions. She has denied the assertion that the accusation that she buried, that she married her brother. And now there's new breaking news from the New York post saying that basically there's more evidence that's emerging. Now, what happened is she married Elmi. She was, she's 45 years old. She married this guy who's now 41 Elmi. He's a UK citizen

back in 2009. They got divorced nine years ago in 2017. As I speculated here on the program, it turns out to be confirmed. A lot of her Somali paperwork was destroyed due to the conflict there, the longstanding conflict. So her mom is said to have died when she was young. Her family is split up with one branch in the UK, one in the U.S. Elmi's parentage is not known, but he lived in London with Laila Noursaid, a Somali, who is believed to be Omar's sister who may have raised him. This is all complicated.

A UK marriage certificate from 97 for Laila lists her dad as Nuraheid Elmi, a military officer from Somalia, Omar's late father, Nur Omar Muhammad, also went by the name Nur Saeed Elmi, and was a military commander in the Somali government. Sources tell the New York Post they think the person named on the British legal document is Nur Omar's dad. Omar's dad also went by Nur al-Said. On Facebook, he died of COVID at the age of 67 in June of 2020. At that time, messages were left to Nur Saeed Elmi.

It goes on like this. And there's basically the idea is that the immigration fraud that is alleged here could relate to like not at her, not accurately reporting her lineage or her own name or her age. I mean, basically that there might have been a number of problems. with her immigration documents when she arrived here in the U.S. And obviously they would like to try to deport her. Right. It sounds like, I mean, there's smoke here, right?

I mean, clearly something's up. I don't know how, I don't know, like, I mean, I still think it's disgusting because this is definitely like, you know, Berea, the NKVD Soviet leader who famously said, said, you show me the man, I'll find you the crime. Everyone has done something. And they decided to target her because they didn't, you know, like she's going to be a convenient.

She's a lefty. The Democrats won't stand up for her. She wears a funny scarf. We'll be able to play the race card in the midterms. And we'll, you know, but so they're, you know, threatening her with deportation, basically. And denaturalization, it's, I mean, it's not like she's pure as the driven snow yeah but this is the fbi politically motivated going after somebody this is no different than after trump i mean and if the fbi can be used like this there's problems i mean like

when they got nixon and stopped nixon from using the irs and they put the bar between the president and the r s some shit like that needs to be put in for the fbi i because this is fucking outrageous i mean again i was against it i'm consistent on this i was against it when they were going after trump with the fbi saying this is fucking outrageous you're trying to get the man for hush money payment to a point start make it's funny, but what the hell? Hillary Clinton didn't go through this when she had the whole legal fees thing and her thing. They just gave her a slap on the wrist.

They didn't even give Trump a slap on the wrist at one point, and then they turned around and decide, we're going to make this a felony. Okay, again, that's outrageous, right? And I feel the same thing about this, just like the first impeachment. Again, I'm consistent. I thought it was outrageous. How are you going after the guy for impeachment for a phone call? they really could be going after Trump right now for monetizing the presidency or going after

Jerry Kushner for the reports that have came out about them or going after what Susan Collins for this shit that came out of her in regards to ProPublica and the other piece against what was the other one. It was two or three that Trump got rid of in the very beginning when he got into office to start crushing the FBI. Like this is politically motivated. Clearly. Which is my issue. I don't have no idea. As you pointed out, there's all sorts of stuff that might be going on with Ilhan Omar just because of the process she went to get into the United States. I have no idea. Do I trust this FBI to get to the bottom of it?

I do not. I mean, a question here is, I mean, okay, so, yeah, I mean, I'm familiar with this process. I mean, it's, of sort of like when the LAPD owned the L.A. Times and they decided to go after me. And, man, they dug so far deep into everything about every cartoon I've ever drawn, everything I've ever done, every step I take, every move. They'll be watching me. And they were, I mean, and they found they dug up the most outlandish shit, some true, some not true. And they try to like spit it out like I'm a bad guy.

I mean, why didn't you want to publish any of this shit if they weren't out to get me? I mean, unfortunately in this country, there are no legal protections whatsoever to a politically motivated prosecution. I believe there should be a constitutional amendment that does protect you from that. Like if they find, like if it's a political, I'm going to go this far. If they decide they don't like you because you wrote a letter to the editor and then they dig into you and they find as a result of that investigation that you murdered someone, you should walk. Because an investigation should never be prompted by a politically motivated political motivation. If they, now, if a cop's like, I think Ted Raal did it and objectively investigates and finds that I did it, great, send me to prison. But like, do not, but political investigation should be the fruit of the poisoned tree.

Like, if you just decide, like, I'm going after Jamar Thomas and I'm going to turn his life inside out, I'm going to fucking go into all of his bank accounts, I'm going to read all his mail, I'm going to find what I can find, and then I'm going to come up with whatever charges. I can. That's bullshit. Problem. Who's the king in order to make the determination that it's politically motivated? The judge, the court. Because the reality of it is, you have two political parties, both equal, and both, meaning the moment that you get in, yeah, I think this is politically motivated. The moment I get in. Well, it's an imperfect thing, but at least with courts, you have a lot of different, you know, let's just say you go to court and you're like, Listen, I shouldn't be prosecuted, your honor, because this was a politically motivated prosecution. And they rule against you because they themselves are in.

But at least you have a bunch of, you can keep appealing. You can have a bunch of different people, presumably sometimes with different political points of view. And you might have a shot at justice eventually. It's an imperfect. I don't see who else could do it. It has to be important. I get your point. And I agree with, I think the political and motivated.

stuff is insane. Like, random person, like shutting down bank accounts, the banking, for example. Yeah. I don't like politics, so I'm going to shut down your bank accounts. Yeah, like the Canadian truckers. We're going to freeze them. Yeah, it's insane, right? I don't know. I agree with you, kind of. I just don't know how that works. It'll be just back and forth. Yeah. I mean, put it this way, they would require good faith, but you wouldn't need that if you had good faith. Right. Yeah, you would be exactly. Lack of good faith is, why this is a problem.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how that works. We just need to be better people. So let me continue a little bit about just so you know, people really understand. So back in 2020, a blogger told the Daily Mail that he knew Omar when the two were growing up in Minnesota and that she introduced at the time, Ilhan Omar introduced Elmi as her brother from London to fellow Somali community members. back in the aughts. Omar allegedly told people at the time that her brother was looking for papers, you know, immigration documents. Nobody knew there had been a wedding to Elmi until the media turned up the marriage certificate years later. The blogger claimed that Elmi was ordered to come to

the U.S. from the UK by his dad who discovered that he had been living, I love this part, a deconant and immoral life in London. Decavenant and immoral. People began noticing. that Ilhan and Hersey were often with a very effeminate young guy. He was very feminine in the way he dressed. He would wear tight, light lipstick and pink clothes

and very, very short shorts in the summer. Her brother? Her brother? The brother. Here, let me put up... They're trying to say she's a bit of a lesbian also. Not just marrying her brother, but her... Well, I think it's kind of like she married...

It basically... She was his beard and basically... basically it was a fake marriage. The oustating to America was meant to rehab him and de-gay him, but after his marriage to Omar, Elmi left the U.S. and returned to the U.K., where he continued to live his flamboyant life. And his decadent and moral life, he went back to the United States.

Yeah, there's a picture of him in Facebook, which is... Boone. It's totally worth showing, and therefore... Oh, sure. It shall be shown. It will be shown. There's no way on deep program that we will not show you this. All right. So here we go. This is so wrong. I know. It's so wrong. So here we go. Decadent and whole life and that they bought him here to the U.S. She married him. He was in booty shorts and he got sick of being in the U.S. because he was trying to be degayed and he went back.

I mean, for one thing, where's the marriage certificate if indeed they got married? Yep. I mean, because all of it sounds like this comes from a blogger, which it's like, okay. There he is. There he is. Those are his booty shorts. Yeah. Those are beauty shorts. Well, I mean, you know, he's not. He's not the litter and green or something. Man, holy shit. That's Leila Nur Sayyed, Omar's sister. She's, she's. She is not ugly.

That's Nur Omar Muhammad, the dad who died of COVID. Oh, that's the dad. Okay. And there's the brother. And she was supposed to have married. He's very pretty. That's wearing a duress from China. Uh-huh.

Because Ali said the duress from China. You're made in China. This is coming from a blogger. I mean, why should I take this serious? And he says that he's a so-called he calls himself a dirty dandy yeah it's from a blogger who gives a what is a dirty dandy a dirty dandy oh it doesn't a burgundy strens dandy is probably going to be a burgundy from a blogger and this puts me to mind of the

birth certificate for a bomb oh totally no it's it's bertherism all over again it's like here's another black person or another person of color we don't believe that you belong here You're gonna authorize the show of your American heritage, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't, until this is proven, I don't take this shit as being anything, if I'm being honest. I agree with that. I would just say it's worth noting because it's in the top. Yeah, I mean, this is not going to just go away, I think. Oh, I accept that.

They're going to try to prosecute and push out the country. But until they have some kind of smokey gun, I mean, keep mind, this is the same administration that charged the people for the the water in front of the Capitol. And, you know, they came up with all these charges and everything else. And then finally when they get in the court, it's like, yeah, we just kind of made shit up. Like, this is the same administration. This is the same one they went after Comey and had a misspelling in the documentation when they went after Comey. Over the seashells?

Yeah. Well, the, what is the thing? The lake, not the lake, the pool outside of the reflecting pool, where they put those people, people, they were prosecuting the people saying that the people had pulled something down or ripped something. And then when they finally got into it, they found it was the construction that was just fucked up. It wasn't anybody that did anything malicious. And it was, I think it was combing that they went after. And they had like a misspelling or something in the court documents.

Look, all I'm saying is, I am skeptical of this up to the point where it's proven and demonstrated. They have a clear intent, a clear bias. So that makes me very skeptical of what they're doing. But I agree there's smoke. I accept this smoke. There's not a syllable there that I would take issue with. You're totally right. By the way, thanks for your support, guys.

Appreciate it. Peter Ive, nothing to say here, but I'll give you a couple of bucks. And we do appreciate that. P. Breeding, thanks for the $10. And thanks for your complimentary. Good Morning Love the show. And thank you to Dead Meme Club for the $20. Happy Friday, Robbie.

Let's play Mecca. Camelian, all of Europe and Southeast Asia are going to freeze, starve to death this winter. How can we prep for $10 gallons of gas, even in Texas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma? You don't prep for it. It's not going to hit $10. What's going to happen is businesses are going to go belly up, which is going to depress the price of gas. Let's say if 10% of your businesses go belly up, then you don't need 10% of gas for those businesses, in which case the number goes down. Robbie put up a Trump truth social post.

Iran is doing everything they can do they can to drive up the price of oil prior to the U.S. midterm election. They're even making up fake hits, minds, and everything else because more oil is coming through the Hormuz straight now than it did even prior to the beginning of the conflict. It's so I was so landish. Three ships went through. By the way, the week before last, more ships went through when that was being reported. Iran started hitting ships. Yeah, they hit seven ships recently, right? Yeah. It was like three ships that went through,

and they hit two like yesterday. And there's pictures. Yes. They're images, they're videos of ships getting hit in those straight of her moves. They're not going through. No.

And the shipping companies have confirmed that, right? So, sorry, Mr. President. We know you're full of shit. I mean, but it's wild that he's lying like, and he's like, they're trying to drive the price of a boy. What he doesn't get is that. That's what you're going to talk about.

We got to talk about. about, okay, well, let's, let's, we'll wrap up with the main topic, but I want to, let's, which is, of course, the, the, the rise of the left. But let's, let's just quickly, I mean, what do you make of the fact that President Trump and J.D. Vance, the vice president, are running around the country telling disaster victims, like in North Carolina, you got, you know, like in Asheville, who got washed away by flooding, like over a year ago. you're only going to get FEMA money if the Republicans retain the House and the Senate. Otherwise, no money for you.

I mean, literally, Trump's been doing that, and he's like, it's my little joke. My little joke. He should be impeached for that. I agree. Even Republicans should impeach me for that. He's the president of the United States of America. There is no red and blue America to take from a moment. It doesn't matter.

Meaning, whatever... Yeah, during Hurricane Sandy when... If Montana got hit by hurricane, I wouldn't say, well, that's a Republican state. Fuck Montana. Right. That's outrageous.

Like, who would do that? Like, it's even shocking that a president would even do that. Like, if Florida gets hit and DeSantis's governor, I'm not looking at that thinking to myself, oh, now I can, you know, knuckle the Santas under for the money.

It's Florida. It's part of the United States. It's one country. He doesn't quite seem to understand. That's fucking outrageous. Like, meaning that should not be tolerated. It's amazing that that gets tolerated today. And that says something about our politics, that the president will even venture to say that.

Imagine if Obama said that the Krispy Green Krispy, Christy. Yeah, no, he did. Yeah, he did not. Yeah, Chris Christie in New Jersey during Hurricane Sandy, you know, he, Chris Christie was very complimentary to Obama and said that he was, that like Obama reached out. It was like, what can we do, you know? Yeah, because we're Americans. Right. Like your political affiliation doesn't change the fact that you're an American.

At least to me it doesn't. Like that's what I mean like it has to be something beyond our politics. But think about how crazy it is. He's like telling North Carolinians, for example, who let's just say may very well themselves vote Republican. They probably will, right? Or at least a certain, I mean, maybe not this year. But they usually do, right? And it's like, okay, so you're going to a Republican state even. And you're telling them, okay, you guys might vote. for us. But if the rest of the country doesn't, oh, well, nothing for you. It's like the teacher punishing the entire class for the sins of one student. Yo, no, I agree with you, but this is not even a sin. Voting against Donald Trump, it's not a sin. No. It's just the vote. I would have been argue it's a good situation. I mean, I want the Democrats to impeach Donald Trump.

He needs to be just as a restraint for the next president coming forward doing the same shit. I mean, there has to be consequences for what Trump is doing in that office. I mean, he's murdering a lot of people abroad. He's thrown a world leader into the gulap. And, yes, he is monetizing the presidency to the tune of billions of dollars. And his sons and Wickcoff is doing the same thing. That's outrageous. Like, and the idea, like, there's no consequences of something.

There should be consequences. The rub is, I don't even believe Democrats would do it. Like, they may impeachia, but it's going to be on something that they themselves won't run afoul. which is not the same thing or giving me what I want in this particular situation. No, I agree with you. It's outrageous. Like the idea of a president saying to Americans, not red and blue, Americans, hey, if you don't vote for me, you're not going to get the relief that you're required by law to get or by government to get. I'm not going to do my job. That's insane. That is so insane. And I hope.

I hope right wingers understand this. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue. It's an American issue. It's foul. I mean, it's like the crazy, you know, ad that Ramoswamy is, you know, running in Ohio. Yes. It's like it's just wrong no matter where you stand politically. And by the way, Donald Trump, you know, is urging Ramoswami to keep running those ads.

I wonder, I mean, I wonder if it's really going to be. because again, you and I differ on this one. That ad works in the right context. I think it's contextual. Tracking polls are showing already, though, that this is the beginning of Ramoswami's finished now. No, I accept that. But again, the ad is gross.

You're in fact, like, it's so gross. It's like you chose a man that raped your daughter, and you're out here attacking your daughter in defense of this man. Yeah. Now, that looks bad, just back on its face. Yeah, and the thing is also, this is not like, you know, the Jane Doe case at Cornell, which has some complexity and some ambiguity attached to it,

like the three-week delay between the time of the incident and the time that it was reported. This is like really easy to understand. It happens. She hasn't spoken to her mom since 1978. She's completely, yeah, I mean, it's like seven years. How old did she? She's about my age. She didn't look that old.

She's about my age. Ohio is. She didn't look that old. She looked at old. And I think she's 61. And I guess she's getting close to my age range because I'm 49 now. I'm nearly 50. Yeah.

So she's 11 years. Welcome aboard. Yeah. I know. I know right. Don't worry. Take some page to only get better. So like, yeah, it was definitely like, yeah, and her brother.

also hasn't spoken to their mom. And also, you know, there's contemporaneous police records. Oh, there's something clearly going on their mom. Like, local police. No. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Yeah, you can do that, but you've got to find something else.

It has to be something else. Like, she beat her mom up or something. It would have to be something like where the public would be like, oh, she's a horrible person. It's got to be unambiguous, right? Yeah, it does. It can't be this. This is too gross. It's so disgusting.

I think it's the worst, the grossest political ad I've ever heard of in my life. I think... Short of the Ron Burton, the news thing, one. Which one? Oh, what is this name? What is his name? The comedian. I want to say Ron Bergeny, but Will Ferrell.

Short of that. I've never seen anything. Yeah, but that's not real. Yeah, I know. That's what I mean, right? It's so goofy. I mean, like Michael Dukakis really did pardon that guy, right? You know what I mean?

Like this is, this is like not true. And it's so scurrilous. I mean, this is like, I mean, even when you look at the early, you know, the anti-Jeffersonian newspapers and the Sally Hemming stuff. Well, the Sally Hemming stuff was true. So it's kind of like, it was scurrilous, but at least it was true. It's scurless and it's a lie. Yeah, but the sexual assault is just gross. Yeah.

It's just gross. Like it's, it's meaning it's gross on top of. of anything else. And Vance is going around. And, you know, by the way, speaking of, you mentioned Chris Christie. Chris Christie is one of the best. He was a terrible governor left with a 10% approval rating. But he's a great mainstream, you know, corporatist, you know, political analyst.

And he was saying that he was asked about Vance defending this ad, which he has. And he said, oh, you know, Vance said like, oh, we should, like, don't whinge about that ad. There's nothing wrong with that ad. See, that's a Republican point of view. Never apologized. And then like never apologize. He should have just not commented on it, really. But he said, you know, Chris Christie said,

Vance needs to, is, needs to cure the illness in the GOP. And this is, this is not that. And I kind of know what he's saying. Like, in other words, the illness, the sort of the depravity that Trump has introduced and mainstreamed in the Republican Party. As if it wasn't already there. Oh, it's like, come over there. Well, it's all messaging, right?

It's like, we were purists of driven snow. Trump is the problem. the way just a little house just a little announcement no dmz america podcast today i know it's been two weeks in a row that's because scott stant is is traveling so um we'll be back not next week but the week after by the way i want to take a vacation for a few days next week all right i don't know where i'm going yet but i'm going somewhere which days it's probably to be about three or four i should be back on third let me know all right we'll do we'll figure it out yeah come to montana i'll give you the tour really yeah it is beautiful i'm dead sure i was looking i was initially thinking okay well

you could do the show to get from there then well i want i want time off i want to write and i want space to be able to write and in the hamster wheel of the show i don't really have time to do it got you totally um my tan would be nice based look i tell you what i want what i was looking for was a cabin by the mountains, by the ocean, or by the lake, or pond. That's what I was looking for. I have not found there yet. There must be such things. There is a place.

I think they're still open called Alpine Lodge. It's a glacier national park. It's an Apgarh village. I think they're still open. It's right there on the lake. You have a view of the mountains. Just what you're looking for is right there. One question.

Does it have a black sky? Does it have what? Black sky. Like, um, so there are places with no light pollution that allows you to see the Yeah, there's a black sky. Yeah, there's no. Northern lights. My first one was like, I'll go to Fairbanks, Alaska. And then it's like, oh, that's going to be expensive. It's going to cause like 12 hours to get the Fairbanks. Yeah. I'm only saying like four days in um, in Abgar itself,

like there's some lights, but of what you can do though is this, it's like a mild drive onto the east shore of the lake. This is a little amphitheater. I can take you there. There's no light at all. It's wide open. You see the Milky Way. It's really? Yeah.

Montana. It is beautiful. Food's good too. Utah. See, I've never been to Utah either. I've never been to Montana. I'll give you my. Oh, Montana is much, much prettier than Utah.

Unless she's my truck. You don't even need to, you only need to rent a car. You use my truck. Just use the truck. Well, I can't, well, I haven't been able to drive since my. I issued. Well, then you need a white chauffeur. Driving back to tomorrow. It's like, where are we going today, Rob?

Hey, where are we going? I would just, I would drive you around with your pretty little hat and your nestle. It's cold, but that's okay. Well, I require you to be in a tuxedo or some shit like that. I like that. That'll look good in tails. Gentlemen, we only have a few minutes left. We have it.

We got to touch upon the protests. You mentioned Albania. You spend time in Albania. In one of the coverages that I read this morning, someone was talking to an English reporter from, he was in Albania. He said, oh, are you new here? He said, yeah. He said, you don't know us Albanians.

We're fucking crazy. We don't care about anything. Is that true? No. No. Look, I would tell you, people are people anywhere you go. It may be an overlay, but people are people. Albania is Europeans.

They may be rougher, but they're Europeans. like meaning it comes let me explain that so I give an example um you know I broke my phone in Albania when I was and I didn't realize how important that was but I went running off of a cliff chasing a taxi didn't know it was cliff slammed it to the ground mess my arm up mess my face up I'm bleeding um the phone is smashed and it's like you need your phone for anything and for where it was it was like in a mountain area where you had to like walk down the mountain or climb back up the mountain, which meant I was stuck on the mountain and without a phone and not being able to speak the language. No, they're Europeans. They tend to be nosy,

but they also tend to be relatively nice in a personal space. So if you need something in a way, like if I was in America, and let's say if I was walking somewhere, nobody's going to stop to help me, even if they think I need help, if I'm just walking somewhere, as long as I'm not in distress. They would do that in Europe because I can be a little bit nosy. And the same thing is true in Albania. I've had people like stop me and say, hey, hey, let me help you. The thing is here. And let me walk you to the thing so you can find out where you are.

It's like, okay, that's a bit intrusive, but I thank you for that. Thank you very much. I helped me a lot. That's a good thing. But the same token, they were also, I was at the clinic in Albania. And I think I had on like three kilos. And one was like, how are you doing today? I was like, I'm doing fine.

She spoke English. And she says, did your treatment go well? I was like, yeah. Okay, now already you're getting. getting too nosy, right? You're way too nosy right now. And it's like, you probably should drink less. And my first, and as my first thought is like, fuck off. Like that instinct for her to do that, she's not being an asshole. She's just being Albania. She's just being Albanian or just being European. And the other guy, same thing. Both are made by the same instinct. They're just Europeans,

right? But Albania looks rougher. It's not like Paris or it's not like. It's not like. like it's not like Vienna like Austria. Austria looks like a painting. Albania, especially in the area of the lower that I was, is a little bit more run down. Tiriana, again, beautiful country, love the people that were there. Very nice, but they're just like everybody else. I mean, if they're pissed off, they're pissed off for reasons. Right? Like it's not like this stuff is just random. And I don't think for a moment that the contagion of France, because that's what I'm going to call it a contagion. Yes. That's spread to other European capitals. It's spread for a reason. They looked at France and it was like, they're right.

And they went out. We know how to do that. We can do that. We can do that. We don't do that too. France is right. Meaning if France and the conditions in France are true and the people are justified. By the way, they're trying to institute martial law in France right now.

I know. I know. What do you think is going to happen with that? You think the protesters going to fight the cops in this way? Or you think it's going to do? Well, what they're trying to do is say that like protests will only be permitted if they're with official organizations like labor unions. Yeah, but it's not a protest.

If you're freelance, like, you're not allowed to protest. Now, they don't have the First Amendment in France. They don't have a, the right to protest is not in the French Constitution. The right to protest is through power. Well, which is, yeah, not to mention as, yeah, the French are kind of famous for not caring about that. Yeah. I mean, wait, wait, wait, let's, we should hit, what happens it? We should hit that just for a second.

The right to protest is that about. about a document. It's about people going on the street saying so the document tries to legitimize it. You make your own right to protest. Yeah. Yeah. That's the entire point, right? Yeah. The protest is the exertion of powers, just like you said. Yeah. It's people power as opposed to state power. And state is trying to legalize it as if, okay, this is the right time to do it. Nonsense. That's like, yeah, that's like I don't understand here in the United States where it's like, oh, we got a police permit or we got a parade permit. Like you don't need a fucking parade permit. the first amendment is my fucking parade permit yes and even if the first amendment didn't exist human

beings can get out there said this shit is outrageous we need to stop it right your document doesn't give your rights are coming from a document your rights are coming from the barrel of a gun agreed always um so that said um there is a um um a kushner a jared kushner you know relationship to this so kushner is supporting this real estate development, financing this real estate development in Albania. Can you talk us a little bit about that? Then we can get in, we can talk a little bit

about what's going on with this Vanity Fair excerpt, and then we could wrap it up. What's the Vanity Fair excerpt? You mean about Albania? Well, so no. Oh, you know, the rise of the left. No, no, so like vanity, so basically what happened with,

let me find this story. Oh, he's about his findings about his financial entanglements. Yes. So what's going on here? This is breaking in, right now this is in Forbes. Basically, Jared Kushner is furious about this. So the allegations are that he had secret bank accounts that he was a signatory on,

hundreds of millions of dollars in foreign transfers and political arrangements with Middle Eastern leaders. What happened was back in 2018, Dutch investigators who gained. access to Kushner's phone through an arrested and then flipped Russian hacker who turned over access to the Russian remote server containing screenshots of the phone and its data. Kushner's phone was then monitored by the Dutch throughout 2018 as he used it with investigators finding that Kushner accessed a UAE linked bank account that had $750 million trends run into it by a UAE charity, a government charity.

And then, allegedly, there was a secret arrangement between Kushner, the UAE, and then initially Saudi Arabia. Kushner supposedly promised UAE President Muhammad bin Said L. Nihon that he would basically make sure that their agenda would be approved by Trump if they participated in a fund. Thousand percent of believe it. Also, El Nihon reportedly used. another bank account intended for Kushner and transferred a billion dollars to Israel versus via Azerbaijan on behalf of Kushner.

I believe this stuff. I wouldn't like I think they are monetizing the presidency and I think they like meaning these relationships is very weird that Kushner, um, Whitkoff or their sons or have these kind of incestuous relationships with these Gulf states or for that matter with Israel. Yeah, I believe it. I don't, I don't, look, obviously it needs to be nailed down per se. It's funny to me that Dutch is listening in on Kuchin. I know it's funny. How random is that? Yeah. God, it's random. Now, Kushner is vehemently denying all this. It's not like, but I'm like, you know the Ted Rall test, right? The Ted Rall test is you're denying, but are you willing to put your dick on the table and file a law?

for defamation against who the Dutch vanity he can sue vanity fair for publishing the excerpt and the publisher of the book in the United States I believe this ship I believe I totally where's your lawsuit Jared yep bring the lawsuit vanity fair I mean I think you would have a hard way to go but discovery would be a bitch yeah yes it would that's why there will be no lawsuit looks like there should be a court case if there is no law else. That's a big deal. Like all of this stuff to be is big deals and nobody seems to care. No, that's the thing. Everything goes, right? Like, everything goes, everything goes. Nothing matters. I mean, every single day, there's some scandal that should bring down the presidency every day.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just wow. Yeah, this is what I don't know what's to say about it. I mean, as you point out, it's every day. It's become a norm. It puts me to mind of Wharf. There's a, there's a, But there's a great scene with Dax, Ezra's Dax. And we get ended on this, Ezra Dax. And she's talking to Wharf. And, you know, Worf is like honor and dignity and everything else. And she points out to him, she says, you're the one of the most honorable man that I know. And even you accept the dishonor for this empire. What does it mean about the empire?

Like, meaning if the most honest man is dishonest. What does it mean? Right. And we were having like scandals day after day after day. And she was like, maybe that empire needs to die if it's going to act in this way, meaning you need something else. This shit doesn't work. I feel the same way about this. Like, if this took place in the 60s, it would have brought down a presidency. Totally. Place in the 50s would have brought down the presidency. Absolutely. No question.

The 80s, they would have brought down the presidency. I mean, Joe Biden couldn't even get elected like back in the 80s. So, I don't know. It's just what, not. or whatever he ran, that first time where he was plagiarizing and shit like that and they caught him with it. He could make it now. It's like we're in the idiocy. And with that, that's the end of the week. As I said earlier, no DMZ America this week.

So that's it for us. The show will be back Monday with or without Jared. Jared. I've been talking about you. All the people with J names are the same. Jared, Gerald. Anyway. Anyway, so-

Jared Thomas may or may not be here. I know, right. Maybe you're back in Albania. Ted, you're forgetting your podcast appearance later on today. Oh, that's true. Well, Robbie, you can, you can tee that up. So I will be doing another one of the Bible study podcast, people have been asking about. People have been enjoying them.

So this one is actually going to be about the sin of racism. The sin of racism. Yeah. Interesting. The Bible condemns it. By the way, how did the other ones? do. They're doing good. Okay. Yeah, they're doing well.

Just a good turnout and stuff. People are coming in. A lot of people are coming over. Well, what's nice that. Robbie has a gift. They're very good. Well, it's just, it's, there's so many people who say they're Christian, but they don't study and they know, I should believe what is that they say. And that's a big part of it. And so I'm hoping that, yeah, so I'm hoping that it's able to just show, show people what a real Christian.

it looks like for someone who actually does believe it. Yeah. No, that's good, Robert. Look, I think especially topic-wise, oh, man, but stick with it. It takes a while. Yeah, it does take a while for sure. Not for sure. Not making any friends, though.

Because it's like in the beginning, it's like, it's just you and the camera. You just make it love to do. There's nobody else. You're just dancing in the dark. And then you might get one person or two person and then 10 people and then a hundred people. And then afterwards, they get at the house. and be like, oh, my God, I got that house available. Like, you're so, like, I thought, but it takes a lot.

It's like, this kind of slow thing. So stick with it. That's good. Right. All right, guys, that's it for this week. We'll be back Monday at 9, Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. Eastern Time for D-Program. We'll see you then.

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