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Episode Date: June 2, 2026

Conflict reporter/writer/cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss: • The Trump administration has signaled to Republican congressional leaders that it plans to drop its taxpayer-funded $1.8 billion “anti-weaponization” slush fund, though it was unclear how firm or permanent that plan is. • After publicly claiming not to care about the Middle East, Trump reportedly flew off the handle at Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, for Israel’s invasion and genocide in Lebanon. “You’re f---ing crazy,” Trump reportedly told Bibi. “You’d be in prison if it weren’t for me. I’m saving your a--. Everybody hates you now. Everybody hates Israel because of this.” Zionists are demanding the head of the leaker. • Hezbollah’s widespread use of explosive “first-person-view” drones, which are controlled with fiber-optic cables that unspool for miles and are unsusceptible to electronic jamming, have shocked the IDF in Lebanon. • GOP Rep. Tom Kean of New Jersey is running unopposed in his primary today, seeking a third term in one of the nation’s most competitive seats. But he’s MIA. Voters haven’t seen or heard directly from Kean in months — and it’s still unclear when he might return to work on Capitol Hill. MERCH STORE: https://www.deprogram.live https://x.com/tedrall https://x.com/JamarlThomas LIVE ON RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShow SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kdFlw2w8sSPhKI8NRx8Zu APPLE MUSIC: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-ted-rall-and-jamarl-thomas/id1825379504

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Today we're talking about the Trump administration looks like they're about to punt the $1.8 billion anti-weaponization slush fund. President, the amazing leaked phone call between Trump and BB Netanyahu. Amazing. We'll be talking about that. Also, major game changer in Lebanon, where Hezbollah is really holding its own due to A type of technology that I'd actually never heard of. Last but not least, we have a missing congressman, the son of legendary congressman, Tom Keene,

I think governor also of New Jersey. Basically, nobody knows where this congressman is. And I'm just kind of wondering if maybe there needs to be a new way to deal with this sort of thing, like when, you know, legislators go MIA. Anyway, what do you want to talk about first, J.T? The Lebanon thing is fascinating. I did a video last night when it was happening just because I was blown away by what Iran did. Israel obviously was hearing that there were negotiations between the Trump administration and Iran.

Israel obviously doesn't want those negotiations to go through. So what did we do? Bibi Nanyahu comes out. We're taking 70 percent territory in Gaza now. That's what we're going to do. And we're going to take more land in Lebanon. We're going to have more atrocities. States fire agreement says 53% in Gaza.

Yeah. Exactly. And they will be on. They were already at 60. Now they've talked about 1.70. The agreement that was made between the Paxi government of Lebanon allowed southern Lebanon to be a fighting zone. Basically, they gave up on some level of southern Lebanon, in which case, Hezbollah, resistance group, was fighting to defend their territory and to create costs for every center leader that Israeli troops take. And let's give them credit.

FPV drones or have been a game change in regards to that struggle in regards to their fight including nighttime FPB drones. So that stands for first person view which are basically sort of like, you know how like

there's the old electric lawnmowers that people would plug in instead of using gas and basically you have don't run over that thing. So it's like that. It has a long fiber optic cable that unspools for miles and miles. And the advantage of it, of course, is it can't be jammed.

It's not Bluetooth. It's not Wi-Fi. It's, you know, it's not GPS. It's its own thing and it's attached to a plug. You can't hack that, fucker, unless you fly alongside like a bird and tap into it, right? It's what the rest of the use in Ukrainians. I've even started to use in that war, in that theater. And so that is caused all sorts of consequences in regards to the Israeli military getting chewed up.

In which case, Nanyahu is like, well, we're going to bomb Baitroot. Now, this is obviously provocative. Iran comes out and says, if you do that, we will destroy northern Israel. And here are the areas for the people to leave northern Israel. Basically, we're giving an evacuation notice for northern Israel. You're not, yeah, you Israelis are not the only people who get to give evacuation orders. Exactly. And what did Trump do?

Trump immediately puts out a tweet. Because initially, Iran said, we stop negotiations. We're not talking to you anymore. Your dog is out of line. Yeah, because it hasn't been clear from American media coverage up until now, right? Sorry to interrupt, but that there's, that how important, we know that the Iranians care about a ceasefire in Lebanon and they care. about Hezbollah, but we don't know how much they care until now. Whereas like they said, no, this is serious for us. We want, you know, there's no deal without Lebanon included. Right. There's

no deal without Lebanon. And they made it ironclad clear last night when they effectively put a shield around Lebanon. And Trump's response was to back down. We, I talked to Beebe. There would be no troops going in the Lebanon. Well, for one, nobody said any of the United States. And, it was a lot of them. think about troops going in Lebanon, but put that to the side of the moment. And then pointed out that I've spoken to Hezbollah, which I don't buy, but whatever, I spoke to the Hezbollah and the fighting is going to stop. That's amazing. That is astonishing. It's not, it just to be very clear, it's not the astonishing part that Trump pull BB's leash. That's not really it. It's that Iran put down a red line that the United States accepted.

as being credible and legit of such sufficiency that he yanked the chain of beating. That's amazing. But we can't talk about that without talking about this leak of the conversation between Trump and Yahoo, right? So despite sort of claiming insoucients and saying, oh, I don't really care, like whatever, I'm cool. Like, if we don't get a deal there, it doesn't matter to be.

Behind closed doors, there's a very different Donald Trump. He calls up, we don't know who leaked this, but it's credible. Axios reported, Mark Levin's going crazy, saying they need to find the source and accuse them of treason for destroying the relationship between the U.S. and Israel, whatever. Anyway, he called Netanyahu and said, quote, you're fucking crazy. You'd be in prison if it wasn't, if it weren't for me. I'm saving your ass. everybody hates you now, everybody hates Israel because of this.

Well, and they say Donald Trump doesn't tell the truth. You know, I give Trump mad points for this. So what it reveals is what, you know, you would kind of expect to be true, but now we know for sure. Basically, Donald Trump has tethered himself to someone who, it's an unreliable, terrible ally. And now he doesn't know how to get out of it. And he's stuck. It's sort of like when you're dating someone or you're married to someone and they're an asshole like a dinner to the waiter.

And you don't know what to do. You can't really diss them in front of the waiter. But then later you're like, what the fuck was that? That's what this is here. You know, he's in bed with, I mean, the answer here is he needs a divorce. That a divorce would free him. He could date, he could date others like Hezbollah. And Iran, he would, you know, he likes to do that.

You know, and he would no longer be stuck with this like crazy bitch, Bibi. But, you know, that's how this is. But I mean, he's, I don't know if he'll ever see that. I don't know why, whether it's psychological, personal, political, financial, all of the above, something else. I don't know why Trump is in so deep with Israel. But he is.

And, I mean, it's not, it's, and obviously it's literally driving him crazy right now. But everything that the BBs, that Trump told BB is true. So it's kind of refreshing to hear that these conversations that, you know, the whole rest of the 8 million people on Earth are having is shared at the highest levels of power. I don't know if this conversation is real. Now, don't get me wrong. Because, look, I saw this out of Axios. Axios has a tendency to be, I would say, a mouthpiece for U.S. Intel and for U.S. Intel. Israeli intel. And they dump the stuff into the chum all the time. They would say in a heartbeat,

Israel and the United States are at odds. Okay, usually they're not. Usually these guys on the same page. I am also not of mine, because from my frame of reference, one or two things can be taken place and a little bit of both. A, there can be the rogue hypothesis, which is that Bibi Nanyahu saw that there were negotiations taking place between the United States and Iran, and they flipped out because of it, in which case they started agitate against it. Oh, that's totally what happened. Yeah. Well, that's one idea. The other idea is the U.S. was used in Israel to test Iran to see how serious they were about any kind of negotiations or whether Lebanon was included in the mix. To me, both are highly likely and possible. I don't know if... Well, they can't both be likely.

Only one can be likely. Well, no, both can be possible. One could be true. Right. I'm taking A for $1,000, Alex. I think, I mean, I think, look, here's the thing. I believe it's true, and here's why I think it's true. First of all, first and foremost, there's been no denial out of Tel Aviv or out of Washington

of this of this of this of this of this of this claim that's really key there would be if if the relationship were ruptured to this point and it what and if a link put it this way if the relationship was not ruptured to this point and axios is talking shit there would be threats of lawsuits there would certainly be public statements to you know full-throated denials there's been no denial it's been like you know tumbleweeds blowing across my screen this morning also the timing immediately after this, you know, we know that the two men talked. So we know they, they both issued statements and they were both rushing to get their, their messaging out, right? Quickly. I think Netanyahu, when I was looking at my Twitter feed this morning, was exactly this, was a little earlier.

But he was like, I talked to Trump and everything's cool. And yeah, anyway, we're going to chill a little bit in, you know, in Lebanon because like, you know, out of risk difference. And then immediately after that, Trump was like, you know, thank you, B, B, B, B, B, for doing exactly what I wanted, maybe peaceful last forever. It's awesome. But they were both rushing to get their narrative out. That's something that you do when, especially after you've had a conflict. I mean, if you are both on the same page, you both, you know, carefully massage your statement. The statements are virtually identical, but from your own respective points of view. And then they come out at the same time. fact that this was like a get it out quickly and you know and it's so the text is so organic in the way

that it's written it's not like it's not written by committee i totally believe the axios report i think it's 100% true i think well it was rushed because all of the stuff was happening kind of on the fly and all of these guys are in other chaos in regards to what's happening this is not strategy this is them acting on the fly second the united states has a vested interest in blaming Israel for shit that takes place in the Middle East. And they do it all the time. It is policy. It is U.S. policy to claim that Israel is the fault. Israel is the rogue actor. Oh, we would have peace if it was fair. They've done it over and over and over. I've seen them do this a thousand times as they've been doing it over the course of the entirety of this war

and even over the 12 day war where they act like Israel has just gone rogue or that there is some kind of division between the U.S. policy and Israeli policy. I don't know that. I don't buy that. That is at least not coming out of axiots. Now, give it a couple, give it a day where Trump is like, no, no, no, we're going to say, bitch. Because usually something like that will. They will say that.

And look, JT, I totally normally agree with you. I think nine times out of ten, that's exactly what happens. But I think, you know, this feels different to you. The thing, it feels different and it really passes the smell test, right? I mean, it just makes sense. It's like, it reflects like what's actually happening. which is Trump's trying to negotiate a deal with Iran. And like that's, at that time, you don't need your ally fucking anything up.

You don't need your ally attacking the ally of the, of your counterpart in these negotiations. You just don't need that, right? So he's, there's no way Trump would have approved of the invasion of Lebanon or the escalation in Lebanon or the threat to bomb Beirut. No way. How could he have approved of that? No. because he's trying to make a deal with Iran, which he desperately needs

because the entire fucking economy of the world is swirling around the drain, right? Yeah, but you don't know if they're serious, which is my point. They're stupid, but they're not, but they are serious. Yeah, the U.S. pushes and pushes.

What if, for the moment, Iran didn't respond in that way? They would have bombed Beirut. I think the, Here's the part that you're both missing. I follow a lot of the Christian Zionist stuff. Like one of my favorite, if you just want to just read something that will just piss you off every day, sometimes three, four times a day is this ragged called the pulse of Israel.

So basically, I think what this is, they think the Trump is going wobbly, day being the Israelis. And so they leak this to energize Kufi Christians, Zionite for Israel, A PAC, a lot of the different groups to start applying political pressure to force Trump, to force his hand, basically to wag that dog. I think that's what this does. That doesn't explain why Mark Levin is on a crusade to crucify the leaker. Because he can't, because, well, first of all, does he know the Israelis leak it? I think that's who did it. I think that's, this is their dog whistle trying to organize, trying to create a backlash.

Yeah, this is the one who was in the Oval Office in the room. Maybe. Where it happened. Well, we'll see. But. I really do think You know there's always like 15, 20 people around the speaker phone

when these calls are happening For sure But how many of those people work for Israel How many of them are on Apex Dole? They're there in that room Yeah Who knows?

Well, I mean, but like Who's moose? Listen, I could be completely wrong on this But I think that's what this is. No, I think you're right. I do think they leaked it. I think they leaked it for that. I mean, assuming the conversation is real

And assuming Trump did say that basically I got your fucking mind. I'm crazy. You're trying to destroy the U.S. economy. If that's true, I would not... I don't think he was complaining about the economy. I think he was complaining about like, you're fucking my deal.

And also, don't forget, like, you'd be in... I mean, everybody hates Israel because of this. Everybody hates you. That's true. True. But keep in mind, why is he pissed off? He's pissed off because he needs an Iran deal. And Israel's fucking it up.

Yes, Israel is fucking up the U.S. economy. That's what I'm trying to get across to you. Well, that too. What do you think Iran is doing right now? This is not a war in the traditional sense of war where they're blowing shit up. Yes, they're blowing shit up. But what they're doing is holding straight in order to damage the U.S. economy. Trump wouldn't give a shit if it wasn't for the U.S. economy being on the teetering.

That's what I'm trying to put out. And he's like, dude, what are you doing? Like, meaning, yes, I agree with you. I'm willing to kill as many Muslims as you are. you're fucking up my deal because the deal is basically trying to keep the U.S. economy one play. Right. Well, okay.

Yes, no, I totally agree. We have a bunch of comments to get through. I think you leave that very specific reason. Trump is weak. Trump looks weak. Pressure. More pressure on Trump. Well, okay.

We will see. I think the lack of denials, though, speaks volumes. All right, here we go. F.E. So you need to do a deathbed alien confessions, tell all book with your father. Thanks very much for that dollar donation. And for that suggestion, again, thanks for the $19, sorry, the $20 donation from Pugs and Bubbs.

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True, thanks for that dollar. So bugs and bugs. Hoping everyone donates to keep this show on the air, it's so important to hear Ted's, Jarmarls, and Robbie's voices. Thank you really so much. Really appreciate you guys, you and all of you. Jack Samuels, thanks for the $1.99. Thoughts on the L.A. mayor's race versus the New York City primary is today.

That's true. There's a bunch of primaries. I didn't put those into the rundown today, just for the simple reason that we're not going to have any results, really, until at least tomorrow. In the California governor's runoff, it's going to be the one thing everyone's really looking at. L.A. mayor's race, I guess the Karen Bass is more on the ropes than one would possibly expect. I think she was weakened by the confrontations with ICE because the progressive base didn't feel that she pushed back hard enough against ICE and then conservatives in L.A., and there are a lot of them viewed that she was anti-law enforcement. So the whole thing is she was going to know she kind of like doesn't have her constituency lined up. I mean, it's kind of like she's sort of in the, when you're a moderate, you get you got nobody. I don't know, what do you think about that?

the mayor for California? L.A. Okay, okay. Yeah, remember when there were running street battles between ICE and protesters in L.A. I mean, Angelenos don't play. When there's political protests,

it's very serious. And she's in a mayoral race that she's effectively losing. Yeah, well, we'll see. I mean, we'll check in on all that tomorrow, of course, obviously. There's a bunch of special elections. We'll be reading the tea leaves. And I just feel like, you know, it's not really the most interesting a story to be like, we'll be

watching this. We'll be watching that. We'll be watching. Yeah, let's watch it. And we'll just, we'll just see what happens tomorrow. Yeah? I don't know. Okay. Method, thanks too much for the two English pounds from Method to much appreciated. Also, thanks for the two English pounds from Count Zero. Much appreciated. Okay. PhD, Nick Rivera, the leak to, scare quotes around Leak to Israeli mouthpiece Axios, both Trump and BB cover. That is the J.T. Robbie narrative. We'll see.

John D. Cackefeller, fuck that fat, fat orange fuck. Credit for telling the truth for once, but I just paid $83 to fill up an 18-gallon tank. He can suck a far out of my asshole. Yeah, I'm on that team. I recently paid about the same, too, for mine. F-you-so, Larry Johnson, says Iran already has nukes with help from nuclear nuclear state.

He said they will do a nuke test soon. We shall see. So we were on Jimmy Doer last night. Godlin was running the show. He brought me on. Larry Johnson came on later in the show and said that. Again, when somebody asked me about that, I was like, there's no way for me to cooperate that one way to the other.

And I'm not, Larry Johnson is not a source, if that makes sense. I mean, I can't run with that as a real legitimate thing until they actually do it. For people who don't know, who's Larry Johnson? Oh, Larry Johnson is a military guy. So he's a CIA, he's a former CIA guy, but he gives commentary now on, let's say, military and global events. But he doesn't have a source.

I mean, this is a big allegation, right? It is a big allegation, but he is connected in the sense that he used to work in Intel, Kind of like Colonel McGregor, for example. War McGregor was like, I'm being told so-and-so by people who were in the thing. I mean, you have to take over to grand. So there's no way to evaluate who he knows or what they know. Okay, gotcha. More comments.

If you so, thanks for the dollar. Maybe Trump caught RFK's Jr.'s brainworms. There's a picture, by the way, on X today of RFK Jr. back in the 70s handling, fucking around with a puff adder snake. And I'm like, okay, so that's really cool. It's also really crazy.

But then I'm like, really cool is often a subset of really crazy. What is a puff adder snake? I don't know what that is. It's a highly venomous, you know, snake. It's a bitey dude who fucks you. But he's like,

he's fucking around with it, playing with it. I mean, he likes snakes. He loves animals, that guy. F you so, maybe diaper don's issue is that no one is assigned to change his diapers when he has a load. That would make me grumpy, thanks with the don't know there. Maybe Bluth Funk. Good reminder there.

Didn't Baby put a microphone in a UK Prime Minister's toilet? Yeah, he did. That's true? Yeah, that is true. Personally, like what a nut. I forget who it was. Was it Tony Blair, maybe? I think, or maybe someone else.

It was someone else, I think. Manchild, thanks for the two bucks. Trump has mastered the art of the squeal. Nice. Oh, my God. Thanks for the $49 donation from Crown Heights Brainiac. We keep going back and forth wondering if the BB Trump and Backstreet Boys are breaking up. But who wants to take the bet that this is going until the summer and gas is going to get to $10 a gallon?

Iran is waiting for the economy to croak and impeach Trump. Yes. I agree on all that, including the $10. By the way, I don't even know how, I mean, standing still is a problem, right? Like, you can't just keep the blockade up. Donald Trump could only job on for so long about, oh, we're almost at a deal, we're almost set a deal. Okay, can you really do that for three, four months? No, no, no, no.

But, yeah. Okay. So, Aryan Gordy, thanks for being a member, three months. Three months of great independent news. Hopefully our country doesn't even turn even more fascist, so you guys don't get censored. Thank you for deprogramming us. You're welcome. And thanks for the $19 donation from Aryan Gorty.

Ted, thought on your quality of life expectations during the World Cup, laughing my ass off. Jamaral, what to do to get better at Chess? Robbie, should I apply to a master's in Montana for all if you were present and had this power? How would how are you dealing with this? Okay, so I'll go first and we're going in order here. Okay, so quality of life expectations from the World Cup. Fortunately, fewer people are coming to New York than were originally anticipated. So it probably won't have as much of an impact, but it's still going to largely suck. And I'm going to do what all New Yorkers do when stupid, annoying, out-of-town events happen in a city that's completely doesn't have the infrastructure to prepare for it, which is to be out of town as much as possible.

What would I do? And we can all do the president thing later. J.T, your question was, what to do to get better at chess? You play and you lose. You play and you lose. That's how I got better at it. at the point where you get well enough, where you understand the game and the concepts of the game, studying certain books helps.

So there is one of the best books that I've ever come across was the most instructive games ever played in chess. It is very good. It is very good. And it breaks down, it's using archaic notation because the book is old, but it's one of the most best, one of the best books you'd ever get in chess. One of the most fun ones is the King Hunt. That's another good one that's really good in chess. My Cal-Tal books are really good too, especially if you're trying to get better at attacking.

If you're looking at more strategic play, Petrosian book, and there's another one by Carpoth that are exceptional. It just depends on your style of play. As I got older, I went from being more tactical to more strategic. And so all of them are. ways of getting better. And Robbie, should he, should Arian apply to a

master's in Montana? Yeah, sure. If you do, go to the University of Montana, that way you'll be 103 miles south of Calaisville and I can go on there and meet up with you and give you the 25 cent tour. It's a big place. Nice. Yeah. Montana is awesome. I mean, you know, it's like, no, if someone was like,

oh, you have to live in Montana, I'd be like, okay, that works for me. There's worse. I wouldn't say that about every state. I mean, you could be asked to live in Maryland. That's true. That would be... Although, the outer banks are awesome in Maryland.

And Silver Spring is fantastic. Annapolis is beautiful. It's very tiny, and there's not much hunting there. True. True. Well, there's enough hunting. Plus, there's Blair Witch Project. There's witches.

Ted, I'm in Montana. My county is bigger than Maryland. That could well be. Okay, now the question of, okay, if you were president and had this power, how are you dealing with this? With this current situation? Oh, I would be willing to risk assassination and I would go on national television. I would not tell my handlers what I plan to talk about. Then I would say the United States is severing all financial and military ties to Israel

and demands an immediate withdrawal from all the occupied territories. around and surrounding countries and we're done here and I would give a long detailed speech about the genocide I would show pictures it would be a big show and tell I would blow up the U.S. relationship with Israel

yeah it would truth and reconciliation JT what would you do Carlson had on the show oh god it's just rough bring that guy have that guy talking like you said show pictures Robbie?

I would do a lot while you're talking about that, Ted, but I would do a little bit different. I would give my handlers a BS script. I would then go on and say, not only am I breaking relations, I would then release all of the GFK files showing that Israel was responsible for the assassination of a U.S. president. I would release everything on the USS Liberty, and I would ask Congress for a declaration of war. Okay. There we have it. Gentlemen, we have some breaking news. We have a new DNI to replace Tulsi Gabbard.

William Pulte, or Pulte, not sure how you pronounce that, P-U-L-T-E, William Pulte, head of the FHFA, the Federal Housing Finance Agency, is going to be the acting head of the Office of Director of National Intelligence. Apparently Clovis, my cat, was not available. in tapping, so he, let's see, this is a guy who referred several of Trump's enemies for prosecution for mortgage fraud. So he's that guy. This is bad, but he's qualified. Here's the quote.

William has deep experience managing the most sensitive matters in America, the safety and soundness of the markets, made over $10 trillion at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, a substantial increase from where it was just 12 months ago. during this period, he will remain director of the federal housing finance agency and chairman of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, which are big jobs, by the way. Congratulations to Director Palti. Pulte previously owned a construction company, a private equity firm has zero high-level national security experience. They are basically saying D&I doesn't matter.

That's right. I mean, not only are they putting somebody in charge who, was in finance into an intel agency, but they're keeping him on the same jobs and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac while they do so. It's your side hustle. That's amazing. They're effectively saying the DNI, it doesn't matter.

At all. Which apparently is true, because I mean, you and I remember when they created the DNI post, it sounded like that person was going to be the Intel czar. And it turns out. They don't, yeah, they basically, they're in charge of everything but ruling nothing is basically how it turns out. I think, I think power is taken. I think if you had that office, you can be strong in that office.

If the president allowed you to be strong in that office, hell, you can be strong in that office. Hell, you can be strong in that office, even if they didn't, kind of. I'm not so sure. You don't think so. You think it's just the, I think the structure of it doesn't allow for it, you know. I mean, sure, obviously, you can make any office through a bully pulpit. if you have a bully pulpit, Donald Trump makes sure that there's only one bully pulpit.

And so, yeah, I think structurally it's like it doesn't have inherent. It's not like Secretary of State that just has inherent power. You know. All right. Well, anyway, that's enough of that. Let's see if there's any advertisements. There probably will be. Okay, so thank you very much for the $10.

donation from Death Guy 556. All of you are pretty old. True. And it's just the other day I got like someone who was mad at me online and said, whatever old man. And I'm like, okay, I never said I was anything other than 62 years old, but whatever. And have been politically active for a while. What are your expectations for the future when you,

what were your expectations for the future when you were younger compared to reality? Oh, God, that's a great question. I love that question. Do you want to take it or do you want me to do it? Um, so when I was a child, I don't know what I thought. I don't know what I thought, to be honest. I don't think I had thoughts one way to go. I mean, my, my objectives were very specific to whatever was going on at the time. It was like maybe within a five year period. So it was kind of like a live because for my, from 17 to 27, I stayed in the hospital most of the time. going through surgery after surgery after surgery. My 17 to 27 was hellish. In fact, I didn't think of anything during that time frame because it was always something that was falling apart

or there was always some kind of major catastrophe. By the time I hit 27, that's when I was in a relationship. So it was like, okay, well, this is going on, et cetera. And then I got married and my life ended up. Until I got divorced. This is the first day of the end of the end. of your life. Right. Right, right. Um, no, like for the long, like from the time I was 17 to maybe 20, to maybe 30, it was just kind of surviving. I didn't have these kind of long-term plans. I didn't

know that it was going to be a long-term. So now that's more complicated for me. That question is hard. I think there's the implication that maybe we would, a young person would have been optimistic and then grew up and be disappointed. But that wasn't the case for me. I mean, I'm old Gen X. And, you know, when I was, I mean, you know, I was five, I learned how to read from, my mom taught me how to read on her lap reading the pages of the newspaper, which was 1968, right? So it's the assassination of MLK. It's the race riots. It's the Tet Offensive. The, you know, the world is on fire. And, you know, that was my childhood was Richard Nixon, Watergate, resignations. The, you know, the overall. OPEC, fuel crisis. I mean, America and declined, the town where I grew up, Dayton, Ohio, rusting away, factories closing, businesses closing. My elementary school closed due to declining enrollment in second grade.

Then the school I went to from third to six, closed due to declining enrollment. By junior high school, after I went there, closed to declining enrollment. And my high school merged with the school across the way. a due to declining enrollment. Everything has been about decline and collapse. So, you know, I was trying to also keep my head above water economically. I was from a very poor family. You know, child protective services was involved.

You know, I wasn't, you know, I was underweight. I was a sick little kid, maybe not as sick as you, but I had a lot of operations too. So just keeping my head above water, just like surviving was like my main thing. followed politics avidly, but I guess my point is my expectation was very formed by something my mother told me. She said, like, in the 70s, I remember she said, you know, your generation is always going to have been overshadowed by this baby boomer generation that preceded you. They're going to use up all the resources, take all the jobs, have all the good deals. You know, they're going to have all the great government programs.

And by the time your generation comes along, you will never have had anything. She had a bunch of articles about demographers predicting that. That turned out to be totally true. And so I guess I was expecting a downward trajectory and I have not been disappointed by that. What's interesting is like you know you're, you know, you're falling out of a building. You just don't know how many things you're going to bang on the way down. So I'm open-eyed for the trip, and I'm like, curious about the how, like, well, how is this collapse going to look? But the idea that, like, we were going to have, like, a recovery, like, when Reagan was like, it's mourning in America or, like, Trump, America is back. I never for one second believed that that was a possibility, that this country

would ever be able to reverse its decline, that we would ever, you know, have an emperor Hadrian moment where, you know, things would temporarily turn around. I just didn't believe that. And so I guess my point is things are roughly where I thought they would be, which is to say shitty. I just didn't know what kind of shitty we were going to have. Does that make sense? We are politically minded, so we didn't think of it in those times.

Political. So she explained that stuff in a political sense to you, and you were paying attention to it. Yeah, my mom was very political. Yeah. Well, I didn't get this way until I was 30. Holy shit. I can't believe it happened.

And I can't believe this has happened, especially when we started reading history. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It has happened. All this has happened. Like in Battlestar Galactica,

all this has happened before and all this will happen again. Okay, so Crown Heights Brainiac. Thanks for the 99. That's no different than making Ben Carson a neurosurgeon as the head of... That's what I was thinking. I was thinking the exact same thing. Translation, he's pro-Trump and a Zionist. Yeah. It's like how to hell. Well, Secretary Edwards under Reagan was a dentist, the energy secretary.

So, you know, it's not without president. James Watt, the Secretary of the Interior, hated the environment. You're kind of in charge of the environment. I mean, you know, and then there's the WWE lady at education. Like, weird. Crown Nights Brainiac, Ted, thanks for the 99. Ted, please ask Jamarle about his unhealthy crush on cuckoo on cocoa? Coco for cocoa puffs.

Calais. Cajacallus. Because she looks like my ex-girlfriend. She looks a lot like my ex-girlfriend. And, you know, my ex-girlfriend one day saw the show and her be said that. And she was like, how are you comparing me to her? And then I think the thing that really pissed her off was because I said, Callis is dumb as a box of rocks.

And it was like, you're comparing her to me and you're saying that she's dumb as a box of rocks. And it's like, I'm not saying you're dumb. I'm saying Carlos is dumb. It's like, yeah, but you're comparing her to me. Yeah, I'm attracted to her. I think she's sexy as shit. Yeah.

Yeah, look, yeah, we've had this conversation before. Like, you know, yeah. It's like Lauren Boehert. Man, I'm attracted to her. I mean, I would never go near her, but I'm attracted to her. But like a moth to the flame. I don't know why. I don't know why I'm attracted to her, but, you know, you can't explain these things.

It certainly isn't due to her towering intellect or, you know, but whatever. She can talk me all right about attacking China and Russia. Let's, let's do it. Jasmine Crockett is hot. That's true. All right, well, we're out there. All right, so I'm glad we're all like dirty dogs here. Okay, so let's do an ad for Rumble Premium.

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make sure it all happens for you all right so that's enough of that more comments if you so poll do you want Iran to get nukes at this point yes yes yes should have already had I don't like proliferation but they need them yeah I mean it's not that I want them used them right nukes are to be shown not to be used but do they need a balancer yes but do they need a deterrent yes totally totally um Okay, John D. Cackelfeller, I feel the same way about AOC as Ted feels about Lauren Bobert. I find her mentally repulsive. But that photo of her in her Boston college shirt, Busty is all hell, has me feeling a certain way.

Yeah, and she's, you know, Latina-ing filling out in a nice, curvy Latino way that's, as she gets older, makes her even more appealing, I would say. You know, I never really have an eye for the young ladies. I just don't. I've always liked women about my age or older, maybe significantly older. So it's kind of like with AOC, I'm like, I see it theoretically. But now I'm like, oh, I could see white people. There's something about her. She has crazy eyes.

That's that part I don't like. But, you know. I don't think she's bad looking. Oh, no, she's definitely not bad looking by any means. I would never say that. Yeah, she's crazy eyes. Who are the hottest politicians, you guys think? AOC and Jasmine Crocketer up there.

Obviously, K-Lis and Alina Begarbach is... Lauren Boehner. I don't know if it's the German language. I don't know what it is. It's something about the accent. AOC is very attractive. Crocket is that bad. I don't know.

I needless. I kind of have the hots for Elizabeth Warren, too. I have the hots for Elizabeth Warren. Was it her beer commercial from back in the day when she's running for president? Is that what won you over? Honey, do you want a beer? I don't know about that one. But she's cute.

I bet she's so fun in bed. But anyway. Like a cold fish. It was a trout. I'm serious. Well, she's, watch out for the geeky girls. The geeky girls always be like crazy in the sack. Also, um, well, she's the Indian.

Best looking, best looking guys. Okay. It's not cash. No, it's not cash patel. I mean, I suppose for a certain kind of homoerotic way, it might be Pete Hagseth. Maybe, yeah. I mean, but that's the callous of men. Oh, RFK Jr. is kind of the Daniel Craig of American politics.

I can see that. Him lifting weights. He has a . Craggy. Yeah. Like, you know, been through a lot, doing mostly his own fault. Yeah, Higgs-if is probably the case list of men. I'm trying to think of who else.

I don't know. I don't think, what's his name from California? I don't think he's really that good looking. I think he's like, you know, Channel 2 weather with Gavin Newsom, with eyewitness news. California would better off if he was a weatherman. I always feel like he's cheap, like he's looking at the woman. California is like he's old. like such a looking at the next woman who's right beside him.

California weatherman is such a no-show job. It's like, it's like, well, today it's going to be 78 and sunny. Tomorrow, 79 and sunny. Then 78 and sunny again for the weekend. It's like, great. Wow, hard work there. We're getting rain. Yeah.

Yeah. So foreign leader. Who do you think is the hottest foreign leader? I think the Japan's prime minister is pretty hot. Do you? Oh, yeah. I know. I'm talking about some of with crazy eyes.

At the risk of being called gay, I think Emmanuel Macron is a big swinging dick, you know, as a guy. Agreed. No, I agree. His husband agrees. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I went there. Oh, what's your name? Oh, Vandalian.

The EU. No. No. Your taste of women sucks. Yeah. It's definitely, I'll tell you who it's not, is that Japanese? Japanese prime minister. No, that's what I'm talking about.

The Japanese prime minister, she's hot. Well, she's Ted is saying she's disgusting. Well, he thinks that Vanderlion is hot, you know, her with her bulletproof hair. I mean, that thing could repel a bullet. Well, that could come in handy next time someone takes a shot at me at a book signing. Yes, it's, yeah, John DeConfeller, he votes for that, the leader of Estonia. God, what the hell is her name? Oh, God.

Yeah, she is, yeah, she's crazy hot. she's very attractive. And anyway, I mean, too bad she's gone. Benazir Bhutto was hot. When I pointed out that I was into Kales and Bearbott, my audience knows me at this point. They know that I'm attracted to both. They were like, he's only into white women.

And it's like, dude, we're talking about world leaders. Like, it's not like... Yeah, there's not a lot of choices here, yeah. Especially for women, especially female. African countries and start picking out women from African countries, but that would just be kind of strange. Well, there's not very many of them either. I'm not particularly attracted to white women.

I prefer I like black and, you know, girls have got, what's this word, color? So I like. You see, I'm open-ended. Anywhere I've gone, have been attracted to the women at every location. Yeah, I can notice some trends, but there's no, like, there's no, no fly zones for me. Yeah. No flies. You like the ugly women.

The uglier the better. That's what you like. I see beauty in places you don't. That's just because I'm not shallow because I'm an artist. I'm an incredibly shallow person. Also, let me just tell you, like, you know, Elizabeth Warren, I'm telling you, that little body. Okay, so if you had to pick between Vanderlion and Warren, which on would have been? Would the Native American win?

Van der Leyen. Got to go, Van der Leyen. Crazy German. No, I got to look with the crazy German because then there's like, there's the possibility of of cosplay there. So then you like Nazis then? It's like totally. There's the possibility of like, so Mr. Rao, you are with the resistance.

Tell us where they are hiding. I can see that. Let me see. Spec Chicago says New Zealand's prime minister. Let me look who that is. She is attractive. F you so. My parisocial crush is Brianna Joy Gray.

Yeah, she's not unattractive. That's true. See, I don't want to go for people who are in my space. I don't want to be. That just feels weird. This is like a TMI segment than a deep program. Yeah, that's true. But who cares?

I just imagine a meeting behind a joy green. Whatever, whatever. Guys, we got it, we got like, we got to talk about, I don't know how much we need to say about the slush fund going away. I mean, but we should take note of it. Yeah. The $1.8 billion dollar slush fund. It's not DOA yet, but it's definitely, I think, its days are numbered.

Well, the court called it. Go ahead. No, go ahead. I'm sorry. The anti-weaponization fund, right? So basically, I don't, we don't need to reintroduce what this is. Everybody who watches the show knows. But I was, I thought it was interesting.

It's a little bit of jujitsu, right? I mean, so a federal judge issued a ruling that said, like, yeah, this, you know, this is temporarily enjoined. And the administration, instead of saying, fuck you, we're appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court, so, okay, we'll abide by this for the foreseeable future, which is sort of their passive way of saying, ain't nothing we could do, it's the judiciary and the activist left-wing judges. Not our fault. Can't do anything.

Oh, well, but the truth is they're getting, you know, Republicans don't like this thing either, and they're catching all sorts of shit as they go into the midterms about it. It was really unpopular. There was shouting matches in the Republican, conference over this in the U.S. Senate. Ted Cruz talked about it, confirmed it. So I just thought it was interesting the way they bowed out, like sort of like, well, we're not going to make it look like our idea. We're just going to be like, we respect the courts, as you well know. So we're out, not something that really they do very often. To get back to more important news,

John D. Cackefielder Ted says that Angela Merkel is more your. Oh, God, stop. No, Angela Merkel is more man than I'll ever be. So, yeah, no, thank you. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Look, this was such an overreach that, like, even like many, it's an overreach, even for Trump. Like, just so the audience understands what we're talking about.

I put Ted Raw, I'm president. I put Ted Rawl as heading the Justice Department. I bring a lawsuit against the U.S. government for $10 billion. Ted Raw, the man who I put in and my Justice Department, settles with me and says, okay, okay, I'll settle for $1.8 billion. You got me. And the Justice Department says, okay, that's outrageous. That's outrageous.

And is taxpayer funded? And it's taxpayer funded. So Republicans seem to be about to ally with Democrats, at least some Republicans, enough of them to make it happen, they're going to try, they may be able to get a veto-proof majority to make sure that this never happens again. They're going to change the structure of the compensation program that currently was established under Obama to settle things like, you know, people in a federal park, you know, falling off of bench and cracking their head.

So those are, you know, that those don't, those allocations don't need to be done through Congress. But they're going to make sure that this can not this can't be expanded again in this kind of way. So this is really, I think, dead. Yeah, this is outrageous. Let's talk about Tom Keene. You're down there in Washington, D.C. Tom Keen's the, I believe the son of the legendary New Jersey politician Tom Keene. He's been missing now for months.

He hasn't shown up at his office. he hasn't shown up for any votes. Apparently he has spoken to Speaker Johnson, but Speaker Johnson's not saying if he's sick, what's going on with him. Is he having a mental health crisis? We have no idea. Is he just on the Appalachian Trail? Who fucking knows, right? But this is not the first time this happened. I mean, there was a Congress lady in Texas a couple of years ago who was out for months, and it turned out she was dead at her, or yeah, she had died. at a nursing home, she'd had a physical, you know, she'd had a health episode, had been sent to an old folks home and then croaked. And then it was like Texas, you know, this discerching Texas

didn't have its congressperson. There's got to be a better way to run a railroad in a 250-year-old republic, right? I mean, surely there should be a mechanism where like if we don't hear from you from time to time. If you don't check in for votes, if you don't say, hi, Speaker Johnson, I'm still doing my job, that like there's an investigation that basically determines what's going on, looks for you, maybe replaces you, I mean, calls a special election. There should, I mean, this is starting to happen too often. These people are ancient and they're like dying in office. I mean, dying of Feinstein. They should have replaced her several times over. I mean, she was ancient.

And I guess my thing is, I agree with you. Like the idea that these people are not representing their particular. Because what it boils down to is they're not representing their district. They're not doing their jobs. Which is what it really. They're fucking off. Yeah. They're just like, yeah.

Yeah. Whether they're dead, whether they're in a nursing home or whether they're just fucking off and, you know, taking bonkets. It still boils down to the same thing. They're not effectively representing their district. in the area to which they're supposed to be representing them. It's a problem. And yeah, you're right. They need to be, like, there has to be some provision to take these people out.

I mean, I don't know what that provision would look like. I mean, I would think, look, normally, I think the governor appoints an acting replacement until there's a special election, right? So, I mean, this should be some, I think maybe we need a constitutional amendment that just makes this, that triggers something that happens. in the same way that, you know, we needed one for the vice presidential succession to clarify matters because it wasn't really clear in the 19th century exactly what happened when something happened to the president. Same thing should be true for congressmen and senators. I mean,

obviously. Yeah, agree. Whether it's a vice, I don't know, in the position, that would be a little bit weird or whether there's a special election or something that's triggered after an inquiry. I mean, but then the issue becomes, okay, when is the inquiry going to take place? And now they're really going to have an inquiry. It's like stuff like that happens. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you. Either way, what it boils down to is they're not representing a district, either because they're dead bunkets with their mistress.

What was it? Santos, where he was out with the woman in, like, Ecuador somewhere, or Puerto Rico or somewhere like that. Santos was not with any women. Santos was gay like the day is long. I know who you're talking about, though. Who was, who was on the Appalachian Trail? He was like having sex with some crazy Argentinian. Yeah.

He was living his best life. He was. Good for him. Quick, quick, just a comment. I want to acknowledge a donation from Peter I. I once met Tulsi at a speech, spoke to her afterwards. She made sure to hold my hand after shaking it for the whole time.

I didn't watch it for days. Yeah, Tulsi is definitely hot. That's awkward. She's very attractive. Yeah, no question. And she's pretty calm. And here we go. Three strike, digital design and innovation.

Thanks for the $2. Three strikes, you're out. Miss three votes, you are out. I'm not sure I have a problem with that, unless you have a doctor's note. A doctor's note. That's so sweaty. Got to have a doctor's note.

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