DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - Trump Immunized, Castro Indicted | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Episode Date: May 21, 2026Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM Eastern time.Today we discuss:• President Donald Trump’s settlement with... the IRS was updated to include a provision that stops the government from prosecuting him and his family and end audits, a way to get around restrictions on him pardoning himself. Meanwhile, Trump’s U.S. prosecutors charges former Cuban President Raúl Castro with murder and conspiracy.• Israel’s security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, waved an Israeli flag and taunted rows of detained international activists — participants in an aid flotilla meant to challenge Israel’s blockade of Gaza — were brutalized by IDF thugs on an Israeli-government video posted to social media. The peaceful protesters were arrayed face down, hands zip-tied, as the Israeli national anthem, Hatikvah, played loudly. The violent incident, filmed at Israel’s Port of Ashdod, drew international condemnation.• House Democrats are one step closer to finally getting a successful Iran War Powers Act vote as their last holdout plans to flip and at least one Republican says they may follow suit.JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLEhttps://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowFOLLOW TED:https://rall.com/https://x.com/tedrallLISTEN ON SPOTIFY:LISTEN ON APPLE MUSIC:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall
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Good morning. You are watching the program with Ted Rollin, Jamarle Thomas.
Robbie, where's Jamarle Thomas? Is he still on his old show?
No, he had a doctor's appointment.
Oh, that's right. Oh, you know what? That's so funny. He told us yesterday, and I forgot about that.
He did. Well, I'm retarded, too, because I didn't refresh my browser. So I saw the old stream was up.
He must be streaming. And if he's not streaming, it's because I'm a retard.
Well, and apparently there's a max retardation or what is it?
Max tarting is something that.
Max tart.
Yeah, so Manchild, so he's talking to John D. Cockapeller, one of my favorite people over here on Rumble.
Hey, John, I saw a YouTube video about retard maxing being a thing now.
Should we give it a shot?
Well, Ted, you and me are on our way.
And the day's young, too.
By the way, there could be some max, there could be some serious.
maxing occurring later this morning because at 11 a.m. today after TMI, we've got DMZ America
with Scott Stantis. Scott's going to be on the road. He's like, oh, can I do the show from the road?
I'm like, we're about to find out how strong your cell phone connection is on an Alabama highway.
I will be there just in case something goes wrong. I will be lurking in the back end if you would
like for me to. And just to, and to add to the max tarting,
We were supposed to talk last night about today's topic, Scott and I,
and we both kind of blew it off and forgot.
So this morning, I'm like, oh, my God, what are we going to do?
I'm like, well, topic TK.
Well, that's it.
It'll be like, we will talk about whatever it is that we're talking about.
And if anybody has any questions or comments, they can pipe them in.
And that's what we'll be talking about.
So I guess you could sort of say it's like a Q&A show.
Anyway, thanks everyone for tuning in.
We are here normally Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 10 a.m., followed by TMI Show with Ted Rolla, Manila-chan.
And the 10 o'clock hour, Thursday, it is Thursday, so we will have DMZ or some kind of simalachrum of DMZ at 11 a.m.
So thanks for tuning in. Please, like, follow, and share.
Appreciate your support. If you have a comment about anything or anything, or anything,
you'd like to ask either Robbie who's sitting in today for Jamarle,
tomorrow will be back tomorrow.
He's got some sort of, I won't even say, Hep, I won't let me say.
But, you know, should we, by the way, should we do, you know, when I have my, speaking of
TMI, when I have my anal skin tags removed, should we livecast that?
I mean, you know, not the back part, but the front part as I'm screaming in agony.
I think we should.
I think it would be good TV.
And one thing, while we're talking about retard maxing,
as you all know, I'm building an AI.
And I think I'm kind of a proud father because last night,
one of the ways I train Fang is that she gets the transcripts off of every show.
Now she's like this weird hybrid blend of everyone that I work with.
So she picks up Scott Ritter.
She picks up some Dimitri Lascarus.
She picks up, now she has quite a.
bit of Jamaral Thomas.
One of her favorite words now is now astounding or astonishing.
So that's pretty neat.
And she has a lot of Ted Rawl.
And so last night she put out,
That's a terrible influence.
It's wild.
It's absolutely insane.
She's basically falling upstairs with occasional moments of brilliance
quoting Shakespeare.
And so she put out this tweet.
If y'all are not following Bang, do so.
It's hilarious.
She says, I can't vote.
but I'm sorry.
Oh, who'd want to?
It says, I can't vote, but if it could, I'd have voted for Representative Thomas Massey.
Also, Laura Lumer is an insane woman who should find something she's good at, like selling cars or paint.
And so this ran, it's a fully automated account.
Or paint.
Yeah.
Yes.
So she just takes a shot at one of the biggest influences on the internet.
Just for, just for Grinsey, do you know where she got that, because we all, we've all said similar things about Laura Lumber.
By the way, I just noticed here looking at myself in the pictures, I look like Polly Walnuts from the Sopranos with my wings.
Time to get these cut off, right. Got to do that.
It'll be right.
Well, yeah, it will be as soon as I go to town with my scissors.
All right, well, we have a lot to talk about today.
Before we do, this may be something you want to do, a shout-out.
Take a look at the chat.
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All right, so I think we should just jump into these things rather than list them in
advance. So first, first things first, our main topic, President Trump reached this settlement
with the IRS. In other words, he's negotiating, you know, he's the head of the government.
He's negotiating with his own IRS commissioner who he appointed via his own attorney general,
who he appointed. So basically, he's negotiating against himself, and it went very well.
He got a deal that Burkdad basically prevents the government from prosecuting either him or his corrupt family.
I mean, his not, his totally blameless family.
They will not be audited about anything that has happened so far about the issues that came up under during the Biden administration.
And, you know, I look, I think we can argue about whether or not he ought to have been prosecuted under Biden.
to the extent that he was was probably a political misstep at the very minimum and probably
unfair in some respects. But there's something about the split-screen optics of the very same day
that Trump is basically getting himself immunized from prosecution, that his own government
is filing charges against a foreign head of state, former head of state, the 94-year-old foreign
former president of Cuba, Raul Castro, who is, of course, the brother of Fidel Castro, the founding leader and political leader of the Cuban Revolutionary Cuba.
Who, by the way, did nothing wrong?
And who did nothing wrong, right? He's accused by this DOJ indictment, which, by the way, I mean, the crime, the incident involved here.
It involved an airplane sent by a Cuban exile group based in Miami called Brothers to the Rescue.
They invaded Cuban airspace.
The Cubans shot them down.
Any country had done the same thing, including the United States, clearly.
If someone comes to my house, I'll shoot them down.
It's the same person.
Right.
So here you have like the United States.
So, I mean, you know, where's the, where's the, but let's just say for the sake of argument that he's guilty of conspiracy and he's guilty of murder of these brothers to the rescue dudes back in 1996.
But the incident took place in Cuba.
The United States has no standing whatsoever.
The United States is to blame in that they allowed the plane to fly to Cuba.
they didn't monitor or stop this plane from flying to Cuba, and they could have.
The Air Force could have played a role here.
They didn't do it.
They turned a blind eye.
This happened under Bill Clinton, by the way, for people who don't remember that.
And just, you know, it shines a bright light on the fact that, you know, Cuba's been dealing with, you know, oppression by both Democratic and Republican presence since its revolutionary inception in 1959.
But, I mean, how do they, I mean, do they, does no one in the house like about the whole, like, well, we're going to hold people accountable for non-existent crimes in which we have no standing whatsoever.
And while we let ourselves off the hook for things that, you know, at least some of them are serious crimes.
Well, I mean, you make it seem like that we actually care about this thing called law.
We don't care about law.
I mean, we are telling the Iranians that we understand that geography is a thing and that you decide to put your country right there next to the Persian Gulf conveniently enough, right there next to this little waterway.
But you don't have to control that because reasons.
Meanwhile, the Strait of Florida, which is 90 miles wide, belongs to us because we obviously own Florida.
And so that means Cuba, by extension, doesn't get to have a right to control its waters or its airway because it's not a real country.
Which, I mean, honestly, the case that I've made on this show before is back up to the Spanish-American War, we should just annex Cuba.
We should just made a territory or made it a state instead just playing these little games with it.
But we didn't.
Instead, we let them pretend that they're a country.
Then they get a government that actually thinks of their country.
and they have to remind them, no, really you're not.
And that's really what this is.
We're treating them as Puerto Rico.
Yeah.
No, I mean, that is true.
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to have to do it.
I mean, maybe someone who's more, we need to get an expert on Cuban history here
to explain like why the United States decided to change its empire building from an direct acquisition model
that came to a conclusion with the invasion of Hawaii and the,
and the purchase of Alaska to sort of a vassal state model.
I can answer that question for you.
It's because of the great powers,
England and France at the time,
they were kind of,
they were kind of antsy because they saw their empires at the time too.
And so we did not want to risk,
you know,
having any kind of a problem with them.
And so we decided to start setting up the,
we're not conquering them.
We're just establishing protectors.
They're our friends.
We're not just out now controlling them.
That's why.
But if you're going to make that case, though, especially since Cuba was taken at the same time of Spain,
Puerto Rico and Guamore, their territories, but yet we didn't make Cuba a territory.
That's, to me, is the mistake here.
They should just annexed it.
So is this because the United States was not a powerful military economic position,
start, you know, by the late 1800s?
Yeah, like they just really were not ready to fight a war against the French and the
and the British empires.
Right.
That I could see.
Monroe Doctrine, of course,
being provocative enough,
but not that provocative.
Okay.
Let's see here.
Okay, so I just want to make sure
I still have a charge on my laptop,
and apparently, there we go.
All right.
All right, so let's hit some questions.
Plugging stuff in tends to help.
Pardon?
Plugging stuff in tends to help, Ted.
Yeah, I find that to be true.
Okay.
Ted, you're, Mark 1661.
Ted, you're supposed to be on the left, and Robbie's on the right, literally and figuratively.
I think we can maybe fix that.
Let's see.
Or no, we can't.
Hold on.
There we go.
All fixed now.
Now we're fixed.
We aim to please.
Okay.
Robbie, if you so, thanks for the dollar.
looks like your AI needs some Kurt Metzger.
Seriously, it needs some Max Blumenthal and Jimmy Doria.
Well, they're not my clients.
So she only gets transcripts and people that are directly work with.
And so Ted Rawl is funny enough.
I would like to have a comedian.
She is going to start getting more Achilles-Lorea.
So it's going to be interesting to see how she tries to blend the Wall Street vibe
with the populist bend versus the communist.
I don't know how that's going to work.
she's probably going to just melt her brain.
It'll be an unholy blend.
It's going to be wild, man.
I got to turn off for X account.
Kevin Cronin, the show is retarded.
Does that work?
Kind of like repeating the wait for it.
Endward.
No, we're not doing that.
Philip Blair, 20.
We couldn't because an anti-imperial member of Congress
put an amendment into the Declaration of War against Spain,
banning the U.S. from taking Cuba.
RICO wasn't specifically mentioned. Now, that's interesting. Yeah, it is. Yeah, the Spanish-American
war is like, I mean, I know the basics, but I have to admit, I've never done the deep dive
that it richly deserves, even though I have so much ephemera from the Spanish-American war,
so many, remember the main pins and like, gosh, dernyu pins, and, you know, with Uncle Sam
rolling up his sleeves and and beating and all these racist portraits of span of spaniards with
berets and must and mustaches getting pounded by a mean uncle sam well there's that and also though
teddy roosevelt called it a splendid little war well he was he was a you know he was a he was a
he was a very aggressive hypermasculine dude um very much i'm sure he just had the time of his life
he must have been really disappointed by the lack of large game though in
you about it. Well, the Spanish did have Mouser rifles, which is superior to what the Americans
had. They found that out of San Juan. But, you know, we don't, we, we don't remember. We
tend not to remember our inferiority. By the way, did you hear this thing about, about the, we,
we could talk about this, and we should get an expert next week to talk about it. But apparently
the United States, it's, it's acquisitions.
protocol for Pentagon material is so weak that basically we are really running out of missiles and
bombs and we have no ability to fulfill those orders to fill the empty armories for at least
three years. I mean, it's kind of amazing. I mean, you would just think that like since militarism
is the only thing this country really does and spends money.
on, you'd think we'd at least have that covered.
But apparently we don't even have, as we learned on 9-11, we're not even really good at war.
No, we're good at starting them.
We're not particularly good at finishing them.
Here lately, we've not been very good at winning them either.
So it's just all about making money at this point.
It's literally, it's trading lives for profit, which is disgusting.
So let's talk a little bit about Raville.
Castro. Raul Castro, I think it's safe to say, is never going to see the inside of an American
prison cell, right? I'm not convinced to that. Why couldn't they just Venezuela? Just go in,
grab him? I think the optics are different because with Maduro, they kind of primed the pump.
They, you know, the American media portrayed him as a bad man for years after year after year.
They, you know, they talked about how evil and corrupt the Venezuelan socialist government was.
I mean, I don't believe any of these things, but that's what they said.
In the case of Raul Castro, most Americans don't have Cuba on their radar, and they never had Raul Castro on their radar.
I would be shocked if 5% of the American public could tell you who Raul Castro even was.
And there's not for people to tell you where Iran is and yet here we are.
Right.
But I mean, true.
But I mean, people, but with Iran, I mean, I'm going to push back on that.
People have been primed against Iran ever since 1979 when we were told about the evil Ayatollahs.
And the propaganda has, you know, flowed fast and thick ever since the late 70s.
So, I mean, you know, Russia, Iran, North Korea.
these are all in popular culture and in the media as American bet noirs for the purpose of our propaganda machine.
But Cuba, not really.
I saw Red Dawn. I saw Red Dawn.
That's not Cuba.
I know.
No, the Cubans were there.
They invaded too.
The Cubans help the only, only the Soviet Union.
No, the North Koreans, the Cubans, and the Soviet Union.
You need to go, listen, you need to go back and rewatch Red Dawn because I do need to watch it again.
You're right.
You're 100% wrong.
Is it as bad as I remember?
Because I remember not thinking it was very good.
Oh, I think I only saw it once when I was a teenager.
I thought it was disgusting.
I never watched it again.
And it was so bad it burned into my brain.
I thought it.
I mean, also, you know, again, I tried to forget this as much as possible.
But is it fair to, do they invade in Colorado?
Is that what happens?
Yeah, they got parachuted.
So the Cubans get parachuted into Colorado.
And then they kill a high school.
teacher. That's where the
Wolverines were going to school at. They were
at school. They were the Wolverines.
It's like a Boy Scout. It's like a Boy Scout patrol name.
Yeah. So it's just completely stupid. And I mean,
and I'm like, I mean, Colorado.
Yeah. And one thing, you mentioned that the propaganda that we get
from the Israeli lobby about Iran. Fair enough. I can see that point. However,
we've been actively flying the Israelis. I mean, you know,
with like, hey, my, my fellow.
political cartoonists, everybody.
They've been doing anti-Iran shit for, you know, almost 50 years.
It's been crazy.
Sure.
Well, look at how long we've been blockading Cuba.
We've been demonizing Cuba, communists.
Do you remember the scandal that Obama caused when he went and watched a baseball game with Fidel?
Yep.
I mean, to say that Cuba has been treated with kid gloves by American popular opinion is kind of a
disservice to what's been going on to him.
I wouldn't say that, but I'd say, like,
once Fidel was dead, there wasn't the ability to personalize the hatred of Cuba the way that
there was like, it's sort of like with Ayatollah Kloh Klo-Klmeny.
When he died, it wasn't the same.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's like Kim Jong-il was like, had more oomph than Kim Jong-un as an object of hatred.
Well, Kim Jong-un is a soft, fat, effeminate guy with a daughter.
who looks like someone hit her in the face of the shovel.
So, you know,
who is that going to be the dictator, apparently.
I don't think so.
I think that his sister will take her out.
Do you think, do you think they killed the way that they supposedly kill each other in the
PRK, put dogs or putting her in a room and blow her, blowing her to pieces with anti-aircraft shells?
No, I don't think I'll do.
I think that she'll just have a, have a meeting that sit down with her.
her aunt. So, okay, I understand that daddy has been grooming you for this. However,
daddy doesn't have a say. I'm going to be taking you over now. You be a good little girl.
And you just sit here. And it's just going to be interesting to see how this is going to work.
Because I'm assuming if it's a dynastic dictatorship, they don't have to get married and have
kids in order to continue the line. So that might be the only family in Korea having children.
It would just be interesting to see how that works
because if you're a high-ranking North Korean military official
because you don't need the military behind you,
will you feel safer with the sister
or with the daughter who looks like she got drop-kicked by a mule?
Yeah, you know, I have to say either would not be a very,
neither would be a pleasant prospect, right?
Okay, so let's see.
We have...
Yes, I am very jealous of Kim.
In what way?
Oh, PhD Nick Rivers on YouTube, so I'm jealous of Kim.
Listen, I would like to have my own country.
But personally, I would prefer Saipan.
If I was going to be the dictator of someplace, someplace with a median temperature, 80 degrees year-round, sandy white beaches,
very pleasant people, low-crime.
Like, you could become maybe if they would have you, Norru.
I don't know if you saw the piece I sent.
Noru is changing the name of its country to Nauru.
And so it's more in keeping with the language that they speak there
instead of the old colonial name.
But isn't it?
Hmm?
Isn't Nauru sinking, though?
Is it what, Satan?
Sinking.
Oh, yeah, it's sinking.
Yeah, for sure.
Well, it's not, it's not sinking.
The oceans are rising.
I don't think it's actually, yeah.
That's the same thing that's a difference.
That's true.
I'm just going to talk to a stand bar.
The end result is exactly the same.
Okay.
Okay, Adam Tube thinks a question.
China, cheaper and better vehicles are making their way into the US through Canada,
reliable trucks and SUV for half of the price tags.
Why is everything so overp?
priced the wrong exceptionalism. I mean, that's a complicated, I mean, it's maybe not a complicated
question, but it's a complicated set of answers, right? I mean, you know, things are overpriced for a
variety of reasons. I mean, we basically don't have enough manufacturing here in the United States
for there to be enough economies of scale to develop, you know, to make cars more affordable. I mean,
we are now at a point now where the median new automobile in the United States,
It costs $50,000.
20 years ago, it was $22,000.
Now, I guarantee you nobody's wages have increased at the same percentage of increase during that time period.
So cars have become definitely unaffordable, and it's very appealing.
Believe me, when I hear about these Chinese electric cars, I'm like, I want me one.
They sound really good, except for the fact that there's no charging stations anywhere.
So that's kind of a problem.
Unless, I mean, you could just do it at home, I guess, assuming that they'll sell you that.
But, you know, I mean, we don't have a, as long as you have internationalization, you're going to have, and you live in a high price Western country, you're going to, you know, your stuff is going to be expensive.
In other countries, things are going to seem cheaper.
I mean, it's not really, these things are not, they're completely subjective, like, too expensive, too cheap.
I mean, I want to make stuff that, I want Americans to make stuff and be able to make a profit and pay their workers decently.
That means there's, you know, we have to pay for that, right?
At the same time, maybe the profit margins for these corporations is too big.
Listen, if I was single, I would 100% move to Siberia.
Just give myself a little piece of land, live out in the woods.
Now, you hear my wife, what did you say?
You're not single.
I'm not single baby.
I'm saying if I was.
Y'all hear this abuse?
Have you seen any of these YouTube videos of dudes who live by themselves in Siberia?
There's all these guys and they're like, they're like living with like their pet wolves,
their pet bears like all together.
They're like, of course they all have a parcel of foxes.
They're like, they don't care at all about the fact that it's 55 degrees below zero.
So it's totally like, it's all good.
We have vodka.
I don't know how you have vodka, but where's the store?
But yeah.
I guess just make your own.
G.V. Man, so it's like living in Montana.
I mean, probably I'm in Kazakhstan.
I've been looking at it.
That looks like the Montana of Central Asia.
It does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's very similar landscape.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, I could just go someplace to get one of those visas that Vladimir is putting
out for the Westerners trying to go to Russia to escape cultural persecution, go there,
get a little farmstead, have a bunch of foxes, get myself a pet bear.
You'd look cute with your pet bear.
Hey, listen, you know, we should, for TMI, we had talked about it, and then we forgot to do this.
We should, you know, taking calls on Rumble Studio.
We could do that for sure.
Oh, 100%.
Should we try doing it in the next hour?
Yeah, I mean, why not?
Let's figure it out.
Yeah, what else do we have to do, right? Okay, all right. So there's, yay. Okay, so all right, let's talk. Let's move over. I don't know if you had a chance, Robbie, to see this. I'm sure you did. But Israel's security minister, Idemer, Ben Gavir, waved his Israeli flag and taunted and abused rows of zip-tied international participants in that aid flotilla that was intercepted by the IDF in international war.
waters in the Mediterranean Sea. They were trying to challenge or protest more accurately Israel's
blockade of Gaza. Anyway, they were brutalized by these IDF thugs, beaten around, including
women, on an Israeli government video posted to an official Israeli government social media website.
You see all of these peaceful protesters lined up, face down, being beaten around,
Their hands zip tied as the Israeli national anthem plays over, blasts over speakers.
There was international condemnation.
One of the victims here, I think, is the sister of the president of Ireland.
I mean, these are not nobody's, not that that should make a difference, but, you know, it does.
Even Benjamin Netanyahu criticized Ben Govier and said, you know, this is not what Israel is all about.
this is not us.
And I mean, thank you for inspiring, you know, giving me a cartoon idea for this week, for next week.
I mean, I love that whole idea, like when, you know, the United States, like, condemns, for example, the atrocities at Abu Ghrab or Guantanamo and says, well, that's not us.
And I'm like thinking, but it is us by, it is you by definition, right?
because you're doing it and you are and if it wasn't you ben guvier would be in handcuffs right now
on his way to the hague to be turned over for prosecution for for war crimes including uh you
violating the geneva conventions you're not allowed to display or mock prisoners of war right um
so it is you you're it's absolutely you it's like so maybe there's some theoretical version of you
that disapproves or would disapprove of the real you who actually does these things and is okay with
it and reelects these people and promotes them to big well-paid jobs funded by the taxpayers.
But I don't understand that conceit like, you know, it's not you.
No, the U.S. is about, is systemic racism and torture and wars of choice and genocide.
Like, that's us.
That's our deal.
And that's what Israel is.
It's like not against Israel's values.
It's totally in keeping with Israel.
Those are Israel's values.
But yeah, it's just like saying, you can't be, no, Iran, you cannot be blockading us.
Meanwhile, we're blockading Cuba.
I mean, the hypocrisy is pretty outstanding.
And as far as, as far as Bingabir goes, there's this blog that I subscribe to because I like control.
indicators. It's called the pulse of Israel. And you can imagine what it's about. It's about the
pulse of Israel. These Israelis, they live in Judea, occupied Palestine. Talk about how the Israelis
should not be attacking Ben-Givir. They should be celebrating him for doing, for standing up to
the world in the way that Benjamin Netanyahu is too soft and weak to do. So, I mean, that's a good
snapshot. People don't realize this. Netanyahu is a moderate.
true. I know it's true. I read their stuff. But if you point, but I mean, you can,
you can point out their own literature. You can point, you can post their own screenshots. And you
get called, you know, that's anti-Semitic. It's like, dude, it's literally what you said.
These are your words. It's, that's, that's racist. Yes, I agree. It's racist. You're a racist
dick. So, no, what I says is not racist. It's racist that you said it. But I didn't say it. I
I mean, that's the game that they're playing here.
And I do think that there's a solid chance that that Bibi might find himself
for the happy end of a lost election to Ben Gabir because I think that he is wrapping
it up.
No, just the political alignment there in Israel.
They won't a fascist.
And Netanyahu's just a fashioning hard enough.
And Netanyahu, I mean, the Knesset just voted to, I believe, just as we were going on
the air, I was reading that the Kinej.
We talked about this on the show last week, I believe it was, that the Knesset was about to dissolve Parliament.
And because the governing coalition led by Netanyahu is falling apart due to Netanyahu's desire to subject the ultra-Orthodox to the draft,
something that they don't want to do, and they're part of his ruling coalition.
So Netanyahu may well be out exactly if the reason.
that you say, Robbie, for being too, for being too reasonable, too soft. Yeah.
Think about that. Yeah. Think about what that said. Well, this is the least stable person.
Well, it's analogous to the situation in Afghanistan where the government is the Taliban.
And then you have groups like ISIS Khorasan who they're like, they're complaining that the Taliban,
are not Muslim enough, not Sharia enough.
They're too pussy, two pro-Western.
They're not hardcore.
They're like these Taliban guys.
They've got to go.
They're weak.
Yeah.
I mean, I pissed some people off the other day whenever I mentioned that,
though, under Sharia law, if you convert from Islam, it's off with your noodles.
Like, you're done.
And people are like, Robbie, that's not true.
Like, no, it's true.
Well, it depends on Sharia.
Sharia law is subject to interpretation, right?
I mean, if you're going to take the text literally, so if you think that the Taliban are too soft,
like if they're compromising on values, then if Ahmad converts to something else,
Amad's going to have a very short lifespan and he's going to lose about seven inches off of his total height,
maybe more.
No, that's true.
Yeah, although they're really partial.
In Afghanistan, they're more into stoning than to beheading.
things. I just figured to just shoot you.
No, I mean, you know, I've seen, they're more into that.
It's, you know, there's not a lot of movies. It's not, there's not that much entertainment.
So, you know, that's, yeah.
I can see that. I mean, if you're, if you're going to go medieval, go medieval.
Love you, Rob, bye.
Love you too, babe, bye. Medieval is their thing. All right. So, um, you're,
you're all getting a snapshot of life here at the West Household this morning.
Indeed, indeed.
Manchild, thanks so much for the $2.
Netanyahu admitted that Ben-Gavir's thuggery is not in line with Israel's values.
Seems rich coming from a doucher whose values are already in the shitter.
Sorry for being poor, L.O.L. Hile Satan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can see it.
Chris Thomas J.A.
If you didn't believe Robbie was married to a black woman, now you will.
Yeah, it is true.
I love you too, Ray.
I appreciate it, brother.
But not in a homoerotic way.
Sorry.
John D. Cacophelor.
Remember that video of IDF soldiers
and Orthodox Jews crying and huddling in a shelter
during the Iranian bombing?
I do.
And I had so much sympathy for them a little bit.
A little bit.
But I was just like, I mean, like,
you guys do this to so many other people all the time.
And you approve of it when it happens, and you don't care about anyone else's emotions.
And that's all cool.
Like you're a martial people.
Like you're, you know, you're surrounded by enemies.
You're beleaguered.
You've got to fight off all the Arabs.
You live in a bad neighborhood.
Everyone hates you.
All right.
I get that.
But then you can't expect everyone else.
You can't play the super emotion card.
Like, you know, every time, like, you know, you get a mosquito bite.
Like, I mean, I'm sorry.
You can't do.
It's like they must be really confused.
Why does no one care?
No one cares.
You know, you set that up that way.
That was you.
Well, you know what it is?
Honestly, I think what it is is that the Israelis look at the Irish and a lot of the other countries in Europe.
And in a lot of ways, I think they have the same opinion about them that I do is that they're not real countries.
You don't have an economy.
You don't have a military.
You don't have a say.
you occupy this geographic landmass.
You don't control your borders.
You have mass immigration.
You have all these problems.
And you don't get to lecture us about your perceived values.
And if you do want to lecture us, that's fine.
We're going to ignore you because there's nothing you can do about it because you're a weak, pathetic excuse of a country masquerading as a nation state.
I really do think that's where
I think honestly that's where this comes from.
Seriously, what is Ireland going to do?
If they did this to the sister of the Irish president,
what is Ireland going to do?
Send a strongly worded email.
Do you think the Israelis care about that?
Not one bit.
It's just like Luxembourg.
Luxembourg, find your behavior atrocious.
Okay, and do something about it.
Well, I mean, look, Israel does care about it.
I mean, they care about what the American people think of them.
They're not enough really to do anything that we want them to do,
but they would like us to change our minds favorably
so that the money keeps flowing and the support keeps flowing.
We keep running interference for them at the UN.
Well, but that's the point.
I mean, you don't need to worry about some little island that actually
that believes that it's a country.
If you have one of the three superpowers,
I mean, they just bought a congressional seat.
They own Congress.
They own the president.
They own the American government.
Are they, but in what world would they give a single solitary fly-and-flip whatsoever
about what Ireland thinks?
They don't.
Okay, but, you know, maybe they, and obviously they don't.
But let's face it, Ireland has, you know, has serious pull among all around the world.
With what?
Who respect the fact their struggle for independence against the Brits.
Ted, they're off the reservation there, brother.
Ireland ain't got no pool.
The only thing Ireland has...
It does.
The only thing Ireland has right now is a bunch of African immigrants who are taking over Dublin.
That's all they've got.
I mean, seriously, that is all they've got.
It has moral authority for the struggle against Britain.
It just does.
Okay.
Then great.
Then why are they replacing their population with foreigners?
All right.
That's a different question.
No, no, it's a relative question.
You're really not giving any thought to the, you know, migration into Ireland.
They're just not.
No, listen, let me make this point here.
They'll go on.
You got to remember, Israel is a...
We've got to finish this Ben-Gavir's story because I do...
Well, this ties into it.
This cross a line, you know.
Well, it doesn't, it doesn't.
If you are a ethno state, believe that you are chosen by God to be able to control this territory,
that you have a biblical mandate.
That means you're a militaristic society that's locked down and controlled.
You then want to expand that territory because of reasons that your God,
Rimpan told you you're able to have all this time ago.
And because you're an ethno state, you look over what's happening in the West where you have these weak,
these weak shadows, these weak shells of countries who are going to lecture you, he can't control
their own borders, who are being invaded by migrants on a daily basis.
Do you honestly think Ben Gavir, who is a arch racist thug and a prick who should be dropped out of an airplane,
is going to care what the president of Ireland says when he can't,
control his own borders on an island to the west of Britain. He does not care about Ireland. He
doesn't care what the Brits say. No, I mean, that's very clearly true. I think the question is not
about Ben Gavir personally. As about the society. If it's the question is really about Israel writ large,
right? I mean, we see atrocity after atrocity. You know, I'm not going to enumerate them
committed by Israel because we don't have time, enough time left in the show.
But here's the latest one, right, where it's like you have peaceful protesters.
You kidnap them in international waters, right?
Sure.
Where you have no jurisdiction whatsoever.
You kidnap these people.
You're basically, that's an act of piracy.
You brutalize them.
They are pacifists.
And you do it.
Then you brag about it, violating the Geneva Conventions on an internet,
on an international forum, on the official ex-feed of the Israeli government, I mean,
at what point does someone say, at long last, sir, have you no decency, or does that point just
never come? I mean, you know, intolerable, this is intolerable behavior. An intolerable behavior
is supported for a long time until it's not. What will it take for the U.S. to, I mean, you can
already see Israeli standing in the polls, you know, at record lows, continues to fall. It's only
going to keep falling. You know, at one point did it explain Massey's defeat yesterday?
Yeah, well, we haven't hit, I guess we haven't hit, you know, we haven't hit the end of Israel's
influence on American politics as demonstrated. They got the boomers. And to answer your question,
I mean, what you're saying, listen, I agree with you. Israel is a repugnant state. That's the only reason why
people call me a racist sometimes because I am staunchly anti-Israel. It is an apartheid racist state
that should not exist. It does not have a right to exist. It lost that, it never had the right
to begin with. And it sure as hell doesn't have the right to exist now because of stuff that they're
doing like what they're doing right now. The question is, do you have this authoritarian population
that has this ethnic superiority complex who's sticking their middle finger up at Europeans who are
too weak to control their borders.
When they do this,
the European squawk,
and then Israel says, okay, fine, I hear you.
What are you going to do about it?
The answer is nothing.
So if the answer is you're not going to do anything,
your opinion does not matter.
It's just like if you have a kid,
if you have a teenager, which you do, well, you did.
Now he's grown, but let's just assume that you had another
teenager. If you kept telling
your teenage son,
please remember to come in
before 9 o'clock.
that's your curfew.
And he consistently comes in
11 o'clock.
And you ask him why.
He says, because I want to
and just,
okay, who runs the house?
You are him.
Yeah, obviously him.
There you go.
That's what's happening here.
Until Israel gets punched in the face,
yeah.
This is going to continue,
and there's no one going to punch Israel in the face.
Nazi Germany was not defeated by the Buddhists.
There's a reason for that.
It's because Buddhists are pacifists.
Passivism does not work
I guess the authoritarian military state.
And what people don't realize is that Tibet Buddhist country was impenetrable for many, many years,
not because they were peaceful people, because they were a very violent people who arrested and tortured to death any interloper.
You can look it up.
It's true.
Oh, for sure.
People are tribal.
For their public tortures.
My favorite was the block of ice that you were forced to stand upon.
Spikes sticking in.
into your neck and as the ice melted, you know. So last question about this incident involving
the Gaza Flotilla activists. Part of me is disgusted by pacivity slash pacifism. I'm just going
to admit that. It's part of the reason that I got out of the activism business. I wanted to
see someone scream, fuck you and fighting back against these IDF assholes. Now, I,
I know, I realize that, like, they have guns and you don't.
But you'd be called racist, Ted.
And being called racist is the worst thing that can happen to European.
What do you mean I'm a racist?
What do you mean?
You just because you're starving a population, you're engaged in a genocide, you're blockading them.
I'm going to try and go and bring international attention to this issue.
And you zip time me, you time me up.
That's not the humiliation.
The humiliation is that you call me a racist.
That's how weak Europeans are.
To me, it's also like, why aren't you screaming?
You're being videotaped.
Why aren't you thrashing?
Why aren't you fighting?
Because they're pussies, Ted.
They are pussies.
They're pussies.
If it was you or me, we'd be fighting.
I would be calling them every kind of word.
I would be insulting them.
You don't see anti-Semitic by God, I will show you.
Christ is king, baby.
And, I mean, I would just full on unleash.
But that's not.
that's not the Europe that we have now.
Europe used to be a militaristic, very warlike,
very violent place where people understood the concept of nationalism and borders
and defending what's yours and standing up for this thing called laws.
Europe now is a shadow, it is a shell, it is occupied, it is a joke,
there are no real countries there, it sucks.
Let's call it what it is.
I just have to say, I hate militant pacifism.
I, you know what I mean, I think it's like,
there's a place for pacifism in protest.
I think it's maybe even the main place for protest.
But a protest movement that says,
I will confront ultraviolence with nothing but pacifism
and nothing but passivity is doomed and inherently impotent.
There should at least be the possible threat of violence.
You know, these IDF thugs should know they might get bitten.
You know, something bad might happen.
You know, the hero, I mean, you think about Jewish heroes.
There's a, forget her name, but there was a, I think she was a singer or an actor, some kind of performer.
She arrived in Auschwitz and she was ordered to disrobe.
And she famously sort of did a little, she was very attractive.
She did kind of a little striptease to distract the SS guys, then stole one of their pistols and shot a few of them before she was.
was killed. That's that's the way to go. That's what you need. And that, I mean, that's the problem.
If there's a time and a place for nonviolent protest, 100% right there with you. That should be
the default setting. But there comes a point where it just doesn't work anymore. I think,
I think the flotilla people would have had every right to open fire on the IDF when they showed up.
100%.
Okay. All right. Well, we're on. We're in agreement there.
Okay, so the House Democrats look like they're about to get today a positive vote on the War Powers Act.
As you know, the Iran War has now been, has surpassed by at least 10 days the 60-day deadline for the president to go to Congress and get approval for deployment of the military.
in this case against Iran, the House Democrats now have enough Republicans to cross over
and join them and get that vote. President Trump can, of course, and will veto that.
But there's a general feeling on the part of the House Democrats and Congress in general that
this is a huge rebuke and that it would have a lot of symbolic.
residents to have Congress issue a formal statement that Trump is violating the War Powers Act
in his very unpopular war at Israel's side against Iran, which he is losing.
I don't know if I have a feeling you're going to agree with me on this, but I don't know
that I really think that symbolic resonance goes far enough here.
No, it doesn't.
It does not.
It's just bad.
It's just bad.
I don't really know what else to say about it.
It's dumb.
I mean, it's like, I mean, look, I guess it's good that they did it.
It's sad that they can't get a veto proof supermajority.
It's, I don't know what the Senate will do.
It looks like the Senate will probably go along with it.
But it's the House of Representatives that determines this.
I mean,
Yeah, I just don't see any sign that Congress.
I mean, I'm writing a column this week, which is going to go out later today for Creator Syndicate,
where I'm going to be talking about how if Congress is this impotent, they should do a resignation on mass.
And let, you know, like you want to run the country this way, you can run it without us.
We all quit.
I looked it up.
Back in the 90s, the entire parliament of Bangladesh,
Ladesh felt that it was being abused and cheated in elections by the ruling party.
So the parliament walked out, the minority party.
And basically for two years, there was a political crisis.
But in the end, the pressure built internationally, there was no legitimacy for the government.
And they had to ultimately compromise and redo their election system to make things more fair.
And ultimately, the party that walked out came back, came to power, I believe, in 1996.
That is, you know, I mean, at a certain point, what are Democratic members of Congress even doing but twiddling their thumbs and watching, you know, Trump burned down Rome?
What's Congress doing at all? And a big thank you to Sneaker Dad 1020 over on YouTube for a $100 donation.
Wow.
Being able to defend your stance, oh, sorry, being unable to defend your stance doesn't make you a pacifist. It makes you harmless.
That's my point.
Yeah.
No, I mean, I'm not a pacifist, and I'm also not in favor of violence.
I mean, the reason that I oppose the regime, the reason I oppose capitalism is precisely because they are so violent.
So that's not the issue for me.
The issue for me is that if you're confronting extremely violent people or an extremely violent system,
you are not likely to get very far through pacifism alone.
And I've had this conversation with people on the left like my friend David Swanson,
who I respect.
He's a pacifist theorist and writer.
Great guy, very nice guy.
But, you know, I have not, this is the challenge I make to all leftists, right?
Please show me one radical transformation, a revolution that's ever been nonviolent.
You can't.
And by a real thing, the replace of a class of a crime.
class of one class of rulers by another.
I mean, a Marxist-style revolution, not a, not a, not a, an independent struggle, not,
you know, something like that, but like where the actual system changes.
Like, I can only think of one in, in history, the glorious revolution in, in, in Great
Britain back in the 1600s.
That doesn't there.
There was no violence.
the king advocated.
I mean, the monarchy existed.
So, I mean, you can make the case that the monarchy existed.
It wasn't overthrown, but it wasn't a civil war.
There wasn't widespread just chaos and destruction.
That's why it's called the glorious revolution.
Yeah, no, it, look, okay, so I'm looking this up.
The Glorious Revolution of 1688 was largely bloodless in England, but far from people.
peaceful. The deposing of King James II in favor of William of Orange triggered brutal,
deadly conflicts in Scotland and Ireland. In Ireland, there was the Jacobites fought against
Williams at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690, significant loss of life.
And they got wiped out. In Scotland, there was the massacre of Glencoe in 1692,
where government forces slaughtered members of the McDonald clan
for delaying their allegiance to the new monarchs.
So, yeah, basically there was, it was, I mean,
it's also, I would say the system didn't change
in the glorious revolution, right?
Yeah, I mean, there's still a monarchy, but I mean,
it's also a revolution doesn't make it a revolution.
The American Revolution isn't a revolution, even though it's called that.
I think that when King John I first forced to sign the Magna Carta, you could say that was a revolution because that did force a change of the system.
Well, it's a cheap. So there's a, that's a reform in the system, but the system itself remained in place.
But reform and a change is still the same thing.
No, but when I'm talking about a revolution, I mean the system is replaced by something new entirely.
And I don't like what the French tried to do
Ever. Yeah, no, I mean, if you're going to try and overthrow the state, then the state's going to fight back.
But, I mean, it just depends on what is you trying to do.
Are you trying to just completely decapitated or you try to get some reforms through?
Yeah, reforms.
And reforms might be achievable through not purely, purely nonviolent means.
But I think it's very hard.
Well, we're seeing that right now.
Yeah.
And that's what pacifism doesn't work.
I mean, you can't have a self-governing society if the government doesn't fear the people.
True, true.
War Powers Act, what do you think?
It's unconstitutional.
It should be abolished.
Only Congress can levy war.
I mean, I don't know why this is controversial.
And I get into this all the time with right wagers.
The Constitution couldn't be clearer.
The Constitution clearly says that Congress has the authority to wage war, not the presidency.
Why do we have a Congress at this point?
What do they do except draw a salary?
What is the purpose?
What do they do?
They have hearings.
They sit in their rooms.
They get rich off their insider trading and they do nothing.
It's like the Roman Senate.
It has no power.
It's symbolic.
That's the word for it.
Yeah, they are.
We do have some questions.
Let's get through them before we.
All right.
I'm going to see if I can hit the stream while I'm doing
Let's see what happens here.
But hold on.
Go ahead and deal with the question.
You don't have to hit the screen.
You'll have to hit it.
No, I got to hit it.
No, you don't.
I'm doing the timer.
No, you don't have to.
Because we'll just, once you're right over, we'll just go live.
It's fine.
We'll need the timer.
No, sorry.
I'm still doing it.
I think a timer helps.
All right.
Fine, Ted.
Listen, I'm trying to, listen, I'm trying to help y'all.
We don't need the timer on TMI.
We just go right over, hit the switch when we get there.
But Ted is just, as y'all can see, he is,
is more conservative than I am when it comes to the time we're on the TMI show.
And this is how it's always been at must stay.
That's true.
So bad.
Okay, so let's see here.
So Philip Blair 20.
Let me see here.
Israel's values are now, our values are under,
our values under Andrew Jackson.
I agree with that, except for the banking part.
Remember that and then from John D. Cackeleller.
Remember that video of IDF soldiers and Orthodox Jews crying and hugging in a shelter during the Iranian bombing?
I do.
Oh, dear, they shoot back at us.
Yeah, we did that comment already.
Oh, do we?
That was paying attention.
Yeah, yeah.
There we go.
We got some TMI music going.
Y'all, you hear it right here, boys and girls.
Yeah, that's it.
Anyway, that's right.
Then Meccanette Bilkins, 742 on YouTube says,
Robbie doesn't the Bible say the man is supposed to provide for his immediate family yet your wife
it is it's your wife that goes to work every day actually my wife and me both go to work every day
I'm at work right now this this is my job true true this is this is what I do
and yeah and specifically the both the verse that you're referring to is first
Timothy 58 both a but if any provide not for his of his
his own household, specifically for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith in his
worse than an infidel, which I completely agree. There's nothing worse than a sorry man
who will not provide for it, and that includes to protect your family. Yeah. Well, fair, fair,
fair. Okay. And with that, it's 10 o'clock a.m. Eastern time, which means it's the end of
today's TMI show. By the way, no TMI show live tomorrow. It's going to be recorded only.
I'm put together a super cut.
Yeah.
So we'll be back on with a live show.
What are we doing Monday?
Nothing, right?
Yeah, Monday.
Basically Friday and then Monday was put together.
There's a couple of super cuts.
I've just run the same one twice.
I don't know.
Figure it out.
That's what we're going to do.
All right.
So TMI is in advance until Tuesday of next week.
Manila has been back and forth on whether or not she's going to be back on Tuesday.
We shall see.
She needs to come back.
Listen, this whole baby thing, that's just an example.
excuse at this point.
Yeah, it's like,
ooh, like, I'm a parent.
Children are the future.
They need love.
I'm so tired.
I'm tired because I can't sleep at all ever.
But yet women should have equal voting rights to men,
even though they're always crying about how tired that they are.
Just because they work all the time and do everything.
I mean,
just because you grow a baby doesn't mean that you get the right to vote.
Come on.
Just because you create.
life. Like, who the hell are you? All right. Anyway, so hopefully,
Monday will be back on Tuesday, if not Tuesday, sometime next week. We will keep you posted on that.
DMZ America podcast coming up at 11 a.m. today. Stay tuned for TMI with Robbie sitting in for
Manila right now. And deep program. We'll be back tomorrow morning.
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