DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - Trump Sends $2.8 Billion More to Israel | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

Conflict reporter/writer/cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM ET. Today we discuss:• The Trump administration approves a $2.8 billion sale of heavy bombs to Israel, in what would be among the largest deliveries of U.S. munitions there even as public support for the country declines. The proposed sale would include 40,000 one-ton bombs whose use by Israel in Gaza and Lebanon has drawn international anger because of the civilian harm caused by their wide blast radius.• ICE went on a hiring binge last year. The agency offered $50,000 signing bonuses. The hiring happened so quickly that many new officers were put on the streets before being adequately vetted. The agency has begun quietly firing some of the recruits—and some are taking their own lives.• FBI Director Kash Patel defends a new policy at the bureau that does not immediately disqualify potential hires who have engaged in bestiality.MERCHANDISE: DeProgram.MySpreadShop.comLIVE ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@DeProgramShowLIVE ON RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowhttps://x.com/tedrallhttps://x.com/JamarlThomas#tedrall #jamarlthomas #news #politics

Good morning. It's Wednesday, September 16th, 2026, which means it's my father's 98th birthday. So congratulations, dad. Happy birthday, Dad. Happy birthday. Fred Raul Jr., making it 98 times around the sun. It is, we have a lot to talk about as usual. We're here Monday through Friday. From 9 to 10 a.m. Eastern time. That's going to expand next week. We will be Monday, Wednesday, Friday, we're going to be going in full two hours instead of one hour. So I hope you guys enjoy that as much as we do. TMI show still around on Tuesdays and Thursday at 10 a.m. Eastern Time. DMZ, as usual, 11 a.m.

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No matter what the idiots at the Federal Reserve Bank decide to do to tank the economy, or no matter how the Houthis blow up everything that the Saudis are trying to send out. Anyway, yes, JT, go ahead. just a very important issue, Ted. Ted, what about the beastiality? We are going to talk about the beastiality. We have beastiality on control. I was geeking out on that this morning on the show.

That is a funny. Senator Kennedy has a way about him of asking questions. He has a skill. He's so incredulous. Because he's so incredulous. He has that sort of leaning forward. That southern thing, right? Are you really going to fuck with me here?

Are you really going to say that? And I'm going to make you say that. It's like, it's so great. The only reason, pure, I want to save this until later in the show is because people are still trickling into the room right now. Oh, that's fair. That's so. I'm saying the best for later. The idea that that's, because when the video starts, that's how he starts, the video, right?

Yeah. Yeah. And we have that video. We will show it for people who don't know what we're talking about here. but long story. It's a new low for Cash Patel. Let's put it that way. Which is saying a lot because he's had a lot of lows.

Okay, so aside from the fact that, look, if you've engaged in bestiality, you could become a Fed. That could be, you're not done, you know, just because you're a dog fucker. It doesn't mean you can't work for the federal government. Or hepers. Or anything. Yeah, anything.

By the way, just a little bit of, an update. We talked about after we went off the air yesterday, this dude who was a friend of the person who was like took offense at one of Robbie's epithets, like the H-word. A friend of his, a friend of her, sorry, got in touch and said, you, like online after reading, like, you are on notice, raw. It's like, but I didn't see that until after I invited him. Anyway, he wanted, He tried to invite himself onto the show to basically, you know, try to bring this in for a soft landing or something. And so I said, sure, come on. Come on in. And we haven't heard Dick from him.

It's been 24 hours, or I should say 23 hours. And we have not heard, I mean, you know, I told him we have time today. We have time. Obviously, we don't have time today now. But we have time tomorrow. So if he wants to come on, we'll honor that offer. But I have a feeling that he might be pussy out. You better be...

I will be kind and gentle, as I always am. Lots of lube in the... Lots of loob for the cash Patel's of the world. My point of view is if you come for Robbie, come for all of us. That's how I feel. And, you know, sure, he might not have... Should have called her a heifer,

but let's be honest. All things have been equal. He apologized for that. Well, at the very least, he shows... What more do you want? That's what I said to one of her friends online. I was like, literally like, I said, an apology was asked for.

An apology was warranted. An apology was issued. Not once, not twice, but three times. What more do you want? Subuku? Like, fuck you. Like, that's it. That's what I feel about you.

You can fuck off. The reality of it is, that woman came on and couldn't answer questions. That's what it boils down to. And the audience wasn't this radical right-wing audience. The audience was responding to the fact that she couldn't answer questions. Hey, get better at your job. For my sake. Like, it's not on us, right?

Nobody, if she was on my show, I would have asked her the same thing. Like, hey, it sounds like you're saying this. Okay, you don't answer me. Okay, but it sounds like you're saying this. Okay, you don't answer me. It sounds like you're saying this. And it's like such challenging questions as do borders exist? Should countries have the right to control their borders?

And they're like, and then I'm sorry to derail just for a second. No. To bring up the racist thing. Rearling is what we do here. as the publicist is outrageous. The person who was giving her shit about it was the black person. I'm not being racist to her. Well, not to mention, there's a lot of classism here.

A lot of the comments, interestingly, from the supposed liberals or progressives, were about our appearance, that we were in cells, that we were, and also that, like, you know, Robbie was, you know, a hick and stuff like that. And I was like, this is a bunch of, first of all, Robbie's smarter than all of you guys combined. So fuck you. But also, one of the things I'm really proud about, and I love about this show, and I think it does something that a lot of shows don't do. We have this cross talk, you know, between very polar opposites on a lot of issues. And it all works, right?

And it's kind of like, where else are you going to find that? I mean, you know, we always talk about like, hey, America needs to talk to each other. Well, here we are doing that. And it gets spicy sometimes. And that's okay. We're still all friends. And like you said, J.T., you come for Robbie. You come for all of us. Yeah, you're probably about of them. Inseals.

Do they know how much pussy you got over there? I never want to say that. Can they comprehend that? No. Old women, young women across the spectrum. I don't think I always think that. That's my first thought. It's not lately I've been accused of being an in-cell several times by like supposed lefties. I don't say anything because I'm just like, what am I going to say?

Like, no, I did too. My penis was in many vaginas. and it's like, no, I could do it again now if I wanted to do right now on the air. But, like, you know, it's like, I'm not going to do that. It's like, whatever. I mean, I think it reflects on them that that's where they go instead of, you know, being able to defend their ideas. You're the finger point.

Like, the time. They're doing what Robbie did. Robby named called instead of using instead of, instead, but he did express himself. But he named called. A name calling is cheap. That's what they're doing. They're name calling. Because they don't have ideas.

Because the reality of it is, what she was, for one, I'm a lover of women. I've lusted over Kaja Kallas. I call it dumb because she's dumb. There has nothing to do with her being a woman that has everything to do with her being dumb. They're dumb men also. And I could give you a list of them. How many? It's not about, right, of all the attacks, this is quite possibly the dumbest.

The reality of it is, her issue, and I think what it boils down to is, you were asked questions on the topic of your subject matter expertise. Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't an ambush. It's not like we brought, you know, I've been ambushed where it's like I'm brought on to Fox and I'm told I'm going to talk about one thing and then like we don't know talking about that at all. She said something that I responded to because it sounded a bit off the rails. That's all.

And again, when I said off the rails, she could defend the point. I just wanted to clarify. She could have just answered it and then moved. Don, right? Like, go on. Yeah. No, one thing I will say, Ted, about you supposedly being an in-sell. You're the only male podcaster on the internet that I know of that has a running spreadsheet

for appearing topless live. If there's another one out there, I do not know who this person is. That's true. That is true. I mean, people want to see your bambooms. $4,971 to go. Yeah. I mean, we're getting there.

Get it. But I don't want to spend it. money time on this. I mean, it's just, I just, I just, when I finally read the publicist document, it's also funny, she said, she said online, like, oh, these guys seem to be obsessed with me. And I'm like, she's like, and I've watched all of their shows since then. I'm like, who's obsessed? I mean, look, we should, it's just, I mean, I think, I think we're all three kind of incredulous. That's kind of like, that's what finds it, that's what makes it fascinating. Yeah, it's just, I don't, I have, look, it does a Ricky Morty episode or Rick Morty,

what Rick was Pickle Rick and he took the head of a rat and he said, I'm not even going to remember your name. I'm not even going to create a distinction for you. You're just a rat. You might be a big rat for these guys, but to me, you're just a rat. It's like that. It's like this doesn't really matter. It matters in as much as lack of a better term, content. Well, I mean, I'll tell you, I mean, before we move on, guys, I mean, I'd love to hear both of your thoughts about this. I mean, the thing is, I thought this was kind of interesting in terms of like in a side way, it's kind of, it was kind of provided me with some insight

into the nature of power and leverage and how the left doesn't understand it. So you have these guys who are all a bunch of, you know, hodgepodge of people on the left and you'll run into them on Facebook or whatever. But they're all threatening me. Like we want you to do this. And like Robbie says, they want me to fire Robbie. And that's no doubt what they want. Out there fucking minds.

Yeah. No, that ain't, that ain't ever going to happen, right? I'm already working for you for free. Right, good point. So, so think about this. I want you to fire this guy who is giving you four hours of labor a day. And the only thing he's asking you return is people to go to a stupid gaming channel, click a link. Right.

I mean, think about it. Which, by the way, we hope you do, and I'll put up the link short. But anyway, what I'm trying to get at, though, is, okay, so the nature of people, power and leverage, right? It's something that the left doesn't understand and the right understands perfectly. Like, okay, so none of these guys can do anything to me. They can't cancel me. They can't take money out of my pocket. They can't, they can't fuck me. They have no power. They can't fuck the show. There's nothing they can do. They're impotent, right? Actually, they're the ideological in cells here. So the thing is, I was thinking, but on the right, it's not like that at all.

If you, they're disciplined, they have, they have power relationships. Like, for example, you know, Ann Culture publishes a book. Well, you know, right-wing think tanks buy that book by the hundreds of thousands. And even if they just sit in boxes and they give them away for free, it makes it a book a bestseller. It puts money into her pocket. So let's just say she falls out of favor. Well, with the right. Well, she's kind of like, she might not be able to afford that vacation to Malibu, right?

I mean, Thomas Massey, right? like he breaks with the president, you know, discipline is enforced by the right and he's all, he's gone. The left doesn't have those kind of power relationships because they don't do anything for each other. They don't organize. They don't reward each other. They don't elevate one another. And so therefore, there's no way, if you don't, if you don't privilege anyone with anything, then you have nothing that you can take away from them. And therefore, you don't hold any, any you don't have any power over them yeah also different sandbox i mean they look the reason marl luther king was able to make that word and and again i hate this idea of racism is nonsense i

mean we're they keep using black experience as if it's their experience as foreigners and it's not the same thing i can't go to mexico and take on the mexican experience i don't live there i'm not a citizen of the country they don't have open borders it's nonsense it's like Don't give me this nonsense of racism. It's not racism. We're talking about immigration. No country has open borders. And just to be clear, there is no, there's no leverage.

They have no power. They have no control. They're liberals. It's like Mono Luther King had the ability to shame the government of the United States because that was his weapon, this kind of moral justice that he was effectively using against the state. Because he obviously didn't have a military. He wasn't going to be able to take down the government of the United States. But the government called itself all people, you know, equal, et cetera, and he used it as a weapon.

Okay, well, that's not true here. Like, shame is not your weapon because nobody cares. There's no... Right, plus we're... Plus, there's no shame. An apology was issued. Like, you don't get anymore. John called, John called up Robbie and I and apologized.

Well, he apologized to me anyway. I accept his apology. We're done. I'm not going to talk shit. about him. I mean, I mean, if I did, I wanted to continue to talk shit about him, I should have, you know, I don't know. I mean, I should have not accept this apology, I guess, and been a wuss. The point is what, that's how life works in a civilized, in a civilized world. You, you know, someone does something wrong. Hopefully, they feel bad about it. They take it back. The end,

you move on. Again, I don't think the motivation, I think the motivation is what to do with her just looking bad and can't answer. Well, not to mention yesterday was the pub date of her book. And she's probably trying to make a few extra shackles. What is it? Interesting. It won't be named from here on that. I'm going to go open the door for the cat. I will go away after this. I think that J.T., I'd like to get a chippany on this.

I think that probably the biggest advantage of the right has is that for the most part, we have a sense of humor. Like we're able to laugh. We're able to laugh at jokes. We're able to, well, I mean, think about it. There's just no, the, the wokeies will come in with their purple hair and stuff. You're racist, white supremacist, misogynist, and just look all stir like Martha Stewart's about to go in and spake you with a paddle. And then you have some retard like media association, shut up, pepper.

I mean, seriously. And people are able to laugh. I mean, it's just how many lefties, honestly, are able to actually laugh at the time? That's a serious. I mean, that is a serious indictment. And you're not wrong. The people on the left do not, by and large, I don't talk about the lefties like y'all. I'm talking about your woke social justice warrior white night.

I got to defend those poor brown people. They have got no sense of people. They're so uptight that you could not get a greased BB up their butt. Yeah, this is the Davis-Chapell thing, right? What Davis-Shapel will make a joke and everybody get pissed off. And it's like, dude, the joke is funny. It's all hell. Oh, damn.

Well, the thing is, too, if a joke, the best jokes make you feel uncomfortable. And they're like, holy shit. They went there. And if it's like, you know, so like, you know, the liberals just want to feel comfortable. They want to feel self-satisfied. All right, we got to, we're going to talk. Because we spent too much time. We got a show.

Okay, so main things we're going to talk about today. Mm-hmm. First of all, if you're going to do that, it's more like, br-hmm. Anyway, $2.8 billion in bombs going to Israel because, you know, they need more. I guess those Palestinians aren't going to kill themselves. Trump is sending 40,000, 2,000-pound bombs. We'll talk about the details of that.

By the way, did you see Tucker,000's breakdown of that? Like, the amount of munitions we use in World War II, the amount that we use? No, that sounds good. The breakdown was, like, 40,000 tons is, like, it's unreal. Well, there's 40,000 bombs at one ton each, right? Well, I mean, let's just talk about it, right? I mean, we're here. So basically, there's a bunch of things that I want.

wanted to unpack. First of all, the nature of the bombs, right? So international, it's so funny because it's kind of like, you know, well, international NGOs are pissed off about one ton bombs and more so than 400-pound bombs, but they kind of have a point, right? So in conventional warfare, a dumb bomb, which is like a non-guided, non-laser precision bomb, but they just drop out of the back of like, say, a B-52, like in World War II. That's three or 400 pounds, right? these 2,000 pound bombs are not 3.5 or whatever. They're not 3.3 times more powerful than a 300 pound bomb. They're actually exponential, right?

So it's like nine times more powerful because that's how blasts work. So you can just do the math on a 2,000 pound bomb. 2,000 pound bombs are not used to take out like a building or a car. They're used to take out like the block. It's like a blockbuster like the Brits used to call them in World War II. And they're not really meant to be used at all, according to human rights organizations, in densely populated areas like Gaza. So they should never have been sold to Israel.

I don't even think Biden would have sold these to them. He would have. Maybe he would have. But the point is that they, but these are, these bombs are too big, really, for what Israel's quote-unquote needs are militarily. And so then there's also the fact that, like, Congress is supposed to approve these sales, right? But, like, in this, I mean, when you go into the details

about how these are appropriated, basically Trump can single-handedly sign off on this shipment of bombs, and then it comes out of the general Pentagon budget. And the only way that Congress can stop it is with a two-thirds super majority, which is impossible to achieve in this, you know, in this Congress to, and they can, they can pass a resolution prohibiting that transfer. So, I mean, it's kind of like, I mean, I would love to see some kind of reform which we're not going to see, where Congress actually does assume, re-assume the power of the purse that it's supposed to have constitutionally.

I mean, $2.8 billion is a lot of money. You know, I know a lot of people, us two included, us three included, who could use some of that money? There's people sleeping on the street. There's people who can't see doctors. $2.8 billion, right? And, I mean, even if you just divvied it up and sent checks to every American, it would be a better use of this money. Well, even if you burn it on the White House lawn, it would be a better use of the money. Except we would contribute to greenhouse gases.

But, yeah. True. it would still be a better use. True. As opposed to incinerating human beings, right? Hopefully they burn that ugly helicopter pat up while they're doing it at the same time. I mean, the reality of it is,

Donald Trump made more money than this himself over the course of his presidency, meaning he could have bought these and given it to Israel on his own. Look, I think, from my point of view, these bombs are going to be used for the exact purpose that they were met. To excenerate human beings

and to destroy any and everything in its wake. Women and children include it. Israel is not using, when they're taking down apartment complexes, when they're bulldozing locations in order to prevent rebuilding of those areas, they're doing it because they want to steal the territory. They want to exterminate the population. They don't care about the number of people that they murder. They don't care about the people who are under the rubble in the apartment buildings that they level or the people who they murder in tents. I would wage to you, they even drop these bombs on tents. Like, You're talking about a maniac government that seems to be untethered in regards to the level of mayhem that it will create with anybody imparting costs.

I mean, Iran imparted costs for a while, but should it really be Iran's responsibility to impart costs when Israel for committing a genocide and for continuing that genocide, whether it's in Lebanon or whether it's in Gaza? I mean, like, it's amazing to me. The world just, and maybe it's not amazing to me that the world just watches. but there's something sad about that. Well, that's usually what happens. You know, and I mean, look, you kind of are kind of alluding to this obliquely, a little bit obliquely. You know, we're not a democracy, right? I mean, like most Americans, if this were put up to a plebiscite, if everybody's smartphones dinged today and said,

do you want to send $2.8 billion in 2,000 pound bombs to Israel, I guarantee you it would fail, right, in a big way. And so, you know, obviously Trump doesn't care. I mean, what are we to make of the politics of this, though, right? I mean, if you're a Republican congressman or senator facing re-election in a few weeks here, I mean, you're already scared to death. This is just one more piece of news, along with the Fed increasing rates, that you just don't want or need. And like Trump just doesn't care about the fortunes of his own party. They're not scared.

We're fool. They're not scared. They're not scared. I mean, once they lose this election, they would get themselves a nice, cozy position at a college or a think tank or something, be a lobbyist. Listen, if you tow the party line, even if you get voted out of office by the party line,

I'm in the Unipart, the Democrat, Republican Industrial Complex. So long as you do that, you are going to be perfectly fine. You'll want for no good thing in this life. They are fine. Sure, they lose their seat,

but they'll make millions. So who lost? But I think, but see, the power of the office is not the money, it's the power, if that makes sense. It's the fact that you can control regulation, control, make bets on things that you yourself legislate on, meaning it's the control and the power that's in the office itself. I think they want to keep their office. I don't think anybody wants to be voted on our office. It's humiliating. Not to mention you're running a campaign, campaigns by definition of competition, you want to win.

Also, it's not a sure thing that you're going to land at a sinecure at the private, at some. think tank or you know USC or something right yeah the office is materially there and current you have no idea what the future we're bringing in that in the case but i get your point Robbie yeah in many respects but I don't think they want to lose their seats and the reality of it is more fool them for voting in a lame duck meaning the moment that Donald Trump's the second time he was literally a lame duck on day one true why he care about their fortunes their fortunes are not linked to his fortunes. Donald Trump doesn't ultimately care. He's 80. He's going to be dead soon. God willing. From your lips to God's ears. Right. Right. Right. From my boss to God's ears.

And the fact that he's going to be dead soon and for that matter that he's going to be out of office soon. What is he care? There's a website that's called, Is He Dead Yet? And all it says is no. And it will be updated the moment that happened. And it's like, yes. And it will be there forever. that yes will be there. I mean, to your point about having power, yeah, in theory, they, no, they do have power. They're elected officials. It's like the president in theory has power. The Senate has power.

You know, the House has power. But if you just vote the way that your APAC person tells you to vote, do you have power? Or does your APAC person have power? Well, you vote the way APAC tells you to vote. You vote in the military industrial complex. You vote in the way that people pay you to vote. Meaning, they're whores, right? They're prostitutes.

They're 100%. And cheap wars. Yeah, low paid. These are, yeah, these are not, these are not call girls. These are crack hoes. Yeah. I guess one point is, so bad. They have power, but they're paid to use that power in a particular way.

The reason that they're paid is because they have power to do. Their power is rented. Yeah. It's rented. And so could they do something different? Sure, but they don't really care about us. They don't care about them. I mean, look, we can see this.

I was talking online with some people who weren't kind of getting this, but maybe I'm wrong. I mean, it happens. But, I mean, it seems like there's, you know, we know, let's just say, I mean, I don't think there's any world that in 25 years the United States is sucking up to Israel the way that it is now, or maybe that Israel even still exists in its current form. Right. So we know that's the future, right?

I mean, so at this point, since that is inevitable, it's sort of like in the same way that we know that oceans are going to keep rising. it's inevitable. We should prepare for it and just be like, look, why are we spending more money on this? It's kind of like, it's sort of like when your car gets old and it's like, you know, oh, you're going to need new struts. Oh, you're going to need. And then finally, it's like you know, you're going to need a new transmission and you've got like thinking it's probably time to think about either taking the bus or getting a new car. I mean, we should probably just cut off Israel now just because it's not going to go on forever anyway. So everything that you spend now is just a waste anyway on a project that is going to go away. There's no point.

Donald Trump wasn't elected as Donald Trump wasn't elected as a person that was going to move us into multipolarity. Donald Trump was elected as the last bastion or the last defense of hegemony of sorts. And Israel is one of the dogs for that, meaning the entire point of that particular project is this kind of, I know from Israel's point of view, maybe different than America's point of view, but from America's point of view, we want our proxy in the region that can basically have a Jewish supremacist state that the other Gulf Arab states will show fealty and allegiance to and been beneath four. That's their point of view. And if you look at the wars in Russia, the wars against Iran, all of these things are trying to fulfill that particular point of view of trying to hold back the night, going Maduro in a cage, going after

the Caribbean, going after Brazil and Cuba. This stuff isn't random. Even pushing Europe, to increase his military budgets. Again, this is, we want one of our proxies to be able to take on the Russians. The problem is whatever you write on paper is different than what happens in the material world, which means I'm giving some credence to your point, Ted. Not a loss is and go away, but that's not the way he's thinking about it anymore than he's thinking about it in Iran. He's not cutting his losses in Russia. They're continuing to go for it. Yeah, the Russia thing is just, it's another great example. Let's do some comments. since we have them.

Let's see here. Okay, just filming really. They also said that prostitutes can still be FBI agents. Why is that not funny? We will talk about that. Why couldn't they be FBI agents? I don't think prostitute should be illegal. I think women should have the right to control autonomy of their violence.

Or men. Also, don't see the huge difference between prostitution and porn, if I'm being bluntly honest. I mean, I know there's a difference. But not really. No, there's not really a difference. I mean, I think, look, countries that have legalized prostitution, like the Netherlands, have had good results with it. So, you know, I mean.

Frazzled dripperoni to the bovine in Dostani. I asked a question or two that day. I said, what do you say to an American whose mother was raped by a Mexican illegal migrant, a plumber, as a six-year-old? What? I have an answer for that. I mean, I mean, I think the question is that should they be deported?

Well, of course they should be anyone, well, they should serve their time first. Well, not in her worldview because she's like, oh, borders are fictitious. She treats people humanely.

I mean, we are all, all the nations don't exist. And just because someone comes across an imaginary line and commits a violent act, doesn't mean that they should be. forcibly removed from the place that they broke into. But look, I get it.

Like, like, I just be clear, I'm okay with a world like that. If, but it has to be under different terms. Right. Like, I mean, it would be great to just be able to free float and to be to Europe, would be into Malaysia, to be somewhere else. I don't need a visa. One world government. Because all of us are beautiful flowers and human beings and we're not word.

I would love that world. But we have borders. I mean, it's like that stuff doesn't happen overnight. That stuff takes painstaking process of trying to figure out how. how we get our shit together as countries. That's often, I mean, yeah, you hit the nail on the head, JT. I mean, I think what happens a lot of times with people, well, it's not just a left-wing thing.

I pay more attention to what the left does than the right. But, I mean, where people try to nibble around the edges of what requires a widespread sweeping reform, a revolutionary change, and they want to just reform. It's sort of like campaign finance reform. We'll limit the influence of money in politics. Well, you can't do that under capitalism. I mean, you know, money's always going to find a way into the pocket of a corrupt politician, as long as money exists.

You know, it's like, oh, let's try, like right now, let's try to take the sharp edges off the possible threat of AI. But you can't do that under free market capitalism, you know, where we encourage technological growth. I mean, in a state-run economy, you can do that. but we don't have that. And it's just like, to your point, we don't have open borders, right? And under the existing system, look, Robbie and other people who say, like, look, if a crime is committed by someone who doesn't have the legal right to be here, look, it's very reasonable for the victim or the families of the victims to say,

this crime wouldn't have happened if this person had not been, you know, allowed to enter and then remain illegally in the country. They're not mistaken. and that's objectively true. I mean, you know, and so, I mean, it's kind of like, I mean, there's a tendency to be, of course, obviously you can say, well, illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than the general population, and that's true, but it only softens. It does not, it softens that, you know, that argument, but it doesn't eliminate it because

it's still true. This person, if one person commits a crime and that person shouldn't have been, shouldn't be here, that crime wouldn't have happened if they weren't. aren't here? Yeah. Or the very least is going to happen to that particular victim, yeah. And the family has ever right? It feels some kind of way about it. Yeah, totally.

All right, here we go. Alexandria Black, Robbie won't even fire you. What a beautiful Article 5 loyalty between you. Yeah, an attack on one is an attack on all. Yes. Zola Rosa, thanks very much for the $20. Did you guys see the whole Ed Sheeran and McElmore thing? for bringing this up.

Yes. Should we talk about that? Let's talk about it. Ed kicked out McElmore from his tour because he said, free Palestine, please have Karen Quatowski on soon. I don't know. So, so, okay. So I gotta be honest, I hadn't entirely been paying attention to this story, but

it's been blowing in from my news fees where I couldn't escape it. Maclemore apparently said Free Palestine on multiple venues. I think it was two different venues. Robert Kraft apparently started pressuring other venues to get rid of him off the show. Ed Sharon apparently gets rid of McElmore. And then at that point, everybody else that's associated with the set just goes with him. Meaning everybody just says, we're not involved. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, even Ed Sharon's own band said we're not performing.

Out of solidarity with McElmore. Yeah, out of solidarity with McElmore. God bless. God bless. This goes to your point, by the way, that you. would make that there is a social pressure associated with what Israel has been doing in regards to the genocide they're not going to get away scat-free um they may get away scot-free from the standpoint of the legal sense currently but obviously the world feels some kind of way to the

point where they're literally showing solidarity everybody saying we're out we're out and people are like we can't fire us we quit yeah we quit we're not buying your albums we're not coming to your concerts we're not doing any of this if you want to get rid of him fine you get rid of all this. Solidarity. Solidarity. I mean, what do you think of the argument that like, oh, you know, musicians shouldn't talk about politics?

It comes up all the time. Bruce Springsteen. You can talk about politics all the time. Yeah, I mean, it was core to their, it was core to their lyrics and core to their whole thing. The clash. What's happening, brother? Or the, I was listening to the soundtrack the other day.

Like, meaning that soundtrack is specific to the 60s. Like that is specific to people are getting killed. We're at Civil War. People are coming back on drugs. People are coming back all messed up. What's happening, brother. Billy Holiday, Save the Children. Yeah, we proclaim love is our foundation.

That's a political album. Like the entirety of the album is political. And it is fantastic. Hendricks is a national anthem at Edwards Duck. Amazing. Yes. Just, I mean, artists can be political. It just has been done well.

It can't be like the captain. America thing where you get Falcon and money and he's like, you politicians are the problem. This needs to stop. It's like, just shut up. I hate that because that's like so moralizing on the surface of a very liberal thing. Florence and the machines, that woman should be a God and I would worship her as such. I understand why people don't. I mean, I understand why some musicians are like, yeah, I'm just not going to go there. And I don't want to divide it. I don't want to divide. But you're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do it either way. It's up to you. It's like if you want to have a point of view. Like imagine people murdering kids in mass and it's like,

I don't want to touch that. Really? That's the defining issue of your era of sorts. I mean, Brandon, there are many things that may be a defining issue, but this will go into the history books as a genocide by the people who effectively looked at this and called it a genocide in its current day. How do you avoid that? But tomorrow, the population of Palestinians keeps going up. How could it be? a genocide. Well, for one, I don't know that. That's actually true. Yeah. I don't think that's true. Yeah. I don't think that's true. Yeah. But even if it were true, that's not what makes a genocide. Anyway, yeah. Well, religious communities are typically Team Robbie and don't abort their children or use contraceptives.

So if you're busy and you have kids, then maybe you can outbred that the point is I'm trying is that it doesn't take away the fact that Israel has murdered. hundreds of thousands of people using the American tax dollar to do it. And that is the real story here. So my message to the Palestinians, keep on screwing babies, have lots of kids. I mean, it's true, right? Like intent is what it matters, right? Like, I'm committing genocide against the wasps around my house.

And I'm trying to kill all of them. Now, I'm not succeeding. And they're still proliferating. But that doesn't mean I'm not committing genocide. I am. Right. Yeah. I mean, we can watch it.

Like, even having terms like mowed the lawn gets across. We need to murder as many kids as possible to prevent them from becoming adults. Look, Israel's, it's not like they're incomprehensible. And what they're trying to do, what they want to do is very clear. When the Biden administration and the Trump administration are bringing up ideas like, hey, maybe we can just deport the population. We can forcibly remove. the population like the Nazis was forced to be removing Jews from certain areas. Okay, that's grotesque. But that was what a government was doing, the starvation, the killings,

and all this stuff. We were perfectly killer on what they were doing. We could all see it with our own ass. It's not like it was being hidden. They were laughing and celebrating. They were in dresses dancing in people's houses that they've just murdered. By the way, it's so funny to be like the Zionists on their socials continue to be, you know, put up video of like people in Gaza celebrating October 7th. Wouldn't you? I mean, I would. I mean, it's like the, I mean, it's like, yeah, you've been, you're treated like shit

and oppressed and brutalized and attacked and bombed and treated as a lawn to be mowed for years. And then like, finally you draw some blood. Oh, or, you know, some Muslim celebrated 9-11. Wouldn't you? I mean, they'd be crazy not to. It's just like, I mean, God, it's amazing. The clues.

By the way, just a reminder. our everyone. A week from today, we will, or is it a week from today? Maybe it's a week from yesterday. We're going to have Ben Moser, the author of anti-Zionism, a Jewish history. J.T., if you didn't get the e-book, the publicist, sent it to you, I think, about a week or two ago. So you should have it in your email. But anyway, it's a good read, for sure. So, well, you know, it's basically, I mean, it's actually shocking. You come out of it, basically not only is anti-Zionism not anti-Semitism, actually anti-Zionism kind of promotes anti-Semitism and is anti-Jewish as a religion. Zionism is. Zionism is an apostasy. It goes

against Judaism as a religion. And it's kind of, I mean, the details of it are fascinating. Rabbi Shapiro hits this on the head like nobody's business. And I, it is. Like you come away thinking this and the same conclusion. Zionism is not commiserate with Judaism. It's the opposite. It's kind of an enemy of Judaism. Yeah. It's an apostasy, I think is the best way to put it.

So, all right. So let's do some more comments here. McElmore got one million new subs on X, says P.W. Walker, while Sheron lost 150,000 in a day. Good. Good. God bless. Candice Owens is asking her audience, as Crown Heights Brainiac to boycott the last three Shireen concerts because of Robert Kraft. Good. It should. I mean, he doesn't even have a fan at this point. So,

he can do, he can do acapella. Yeah, he'll do acapella. It'll be great. Yeah. Yeah. Two hours of acapella. Deep Green, when a live streamed genocide brought on Zionists is the nascent issue of our being apolitical is the equivalent to being silent. It's unacceptable, but Ed sides with neo-Nazis and Ukraine, so he is lying. Yeah, I saw that. Yes, yes, yes, he does.

Or yes, he did more accurately. All right, I think it's time to go to our FBI directly. He did a beach reality, tell me about the beast reality. So, Robbie, please do the honor. We got to do that video. He has the video. Robbie, please kindly bless us with this. Here we go.

What about the bestiality? Same thing, because the regs wrote it up in a fashion before I arrive that addressed prostitution, bestiality, and trafficking. They were there before I got there. Tell me what it said before. It automatically disqualified any individual who participated on either side of it. obviously we are never going to hire the criminal.

The fact of what? The bestiality? Yes. So you disqualified the animal? Wait, wait. Can we pause that? Wait, we got to pause that. Wait, because the problem I heard that, I was like, what?

What is he mean? And then what? I guess with prostitution, he meant like, in prostitution, he meant like the John or the hooker, right? Right. But he's talking about bestiality. And that's what I can be like, well, what do you mean? The animal? You don't have the victim at that point, right?

The animal is the victim. Bear in mind, we're talking. We're talking here about hiring FBI agents, right? Like, this is our FBI agent. This is Agent Ardvark. He's awesome. No, clearly the heifer was party to the arrangement. So, no, clearly, no.

I'm standing by the fact that the hepar was the cow didn't actually be. fuck, right? But we all know that. Hold on. The cow cannot provide, the cow cannot provide consent because we can't speak to the cow. I mean,

that cow could have had a page on only hoops. It's like, that cow had sexy lips. It was axing for it. Oh, God, man. What's so wrong? This is so real.

All right. It's like, this took place in a city here, you know, where he's talking to the FBI director about agents, fucking animals. It's on the record.

It's on C-SPAN. That's what we're watching, right? All right, keep going. Dines, but we're not going to disqualify. I understand. I'm trying to understand why you did this. This is not directed at you, Mr. Director. And I understand the game.

People try to make you look bad. We do the same thing when the other party's in office. And all this stuff has really hurt the FBI. It's really hurt the FBI. So I'm trying to get to the bottom. Why would you, why would you, in light of the context, and what we're going through,

and we're having a tough time attracting agents, good quality agents we all can trust, because so many people, fairly or unfairly, think that in order to be an FBI, FBI agent now your political point of view matters why would you even get into Beastiae?

We are not in to Beastiality individuals. I know you're not but you change you change but I'm trying to explain it hang on you change some qualifications and mention Beastieout if Joe

if Joe participated in Beastial not as the animal but as the human don't you like he If he voluntarily did it, sure, but if he was trafficked into it. What? What? What?

In a lot of these cases, when human traffickers, who are some of the worst individuals on planet earth, they don't just traffic you for prostitution. They traffic you for degrading acts of all kind, and they force you into that type of conduct. And some of these individuals would go on to be law enforcement officers who qualified to be law enforcement officers and later applied to the FBI. I mean, this didn't, these changes didn't. Stop there. It's basically making the very base point of.

Why are you leading with this? Like, why are you leaning into this? And he even makes a point of saying, why would you lead with your chin on beastiality? I mean, asking him, why would you get into beastiality? He's like, well, wait, we're not, we're not really into beauty. Well, I mean, I don't know. Cash Patel drinks a lot.

Anything can happen, you know. Well, they said he was sobering up. When you're four sheets to the wind and, you know, you've got a cute mongoose nearby. Yeah, you've just come off to Bender and somebody says, what about the bestiality? What? What? You know, they have a lot of those canine units in law enforcement. You know, you've got to watch out.

What's wild about this? I thought to myself, how many people does this apply to? Because what I was saying that traffickers grab somebody, force them to fuck a goat, and then the eight person, once they get out of trafficking, they decide they want to be in law enforcement, which can kind of make sense.

It's like, okay, you've been a green and you want go after the grief and it's just like you're patched the bad guys but i kept thinking to myself what's the percentage well i want to know i i think i'm going to say that this never happens okay i mean like what's the what's the profit model for bestiality trafficking i mean okay i understand the prostitution one that's easy right but like you know it's like you you you kidnap someone and you use violence to force them to have sex with men and then, you know, you charge the men and that, okay, I get that. Who's paying? Is the goat paying?

I mean, who's paying? Like, is it, do people pay to watch? That's who I assumed people pay to watch. Yeah, I see, I don't, I don't know what that looks like. Is it called bullshit? And somebody getting on with a goat? Also, who's the one that's getting on with the goat? Is it, are they trafficking men to get on with goats?

or women to get on with horses? The question I want to know is how many guys, how many FBI agents are recovered beastiality trafficking? That's no one of them. Yeah. That's the part that got me.

Has it ever happened? Because that's Kennedy's point, right? It's like, why are you leading with this? Like, why is, why? Let's say this is, there are two people that this applied to. Sad day for those two people. Sure.

I'm sorry. A sad day. I'm sorry. I know it's been unfair. It's been a fair that they force you to fort go. Fuck goats. It's been a fair that we are not allowing you into the FBI. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That headline has not been written if Jamal Thomas is the director of FBI. Right. I mean, I guess, I mean, okay, so I've often thought that, like, I've said this to people, that I was broken by abuse as a child personally, that I feel like I'm a broken man. Okay. But I dare say, as broken as.

As broken as I am, I don't think I'm nearly as broken as I would be if this fictional goat trafficking, goat fucking trafficking ring were to have forced me to go balls deep into a goat, right? So I think maybe I'd be too fucked up to be, to be, I'd be too insane in order to be an agent. Maybe I should not be hireable. Maybe I'm psychologically damaged. Ted, no, I've got it. And actually, you're the one that came up with a theory. It wasn't me. We all know that J.D. Vance is a werewolf. That's true.

We know this is a fact. So if you procreate with a werewolf, is that bestiality? Because, listen, he has a wife. It depends if it's a full moon. Well, and they need to join the FBI. That's that part, right? That's right. They opened away for the kid to join the FBI afterward.

What is that word for a virulphism, like lysandrithism or something? Yeah, I have no idea, but maybe where will is your real thing. Maybe that's really what this is coming from. Or maybe it's not way we can hire Israelis who rape prisoners with dogs. Well, that's true. We could have, I mean, that's true. Like maybe, yeah, we could hire Palestinian victims. That's, okay, that might be the relevant thing.

All right, let's watch the rest of this video. Is there anything that more to it or is that it? Yeah, let's watch more. Let's watch the rest. Robbie, you're muted. You're mutified. Hold on. I mean, I'm retarded. Let me see here.

All right. There we go. Hold on. You're so funny. And when you saw bestiality, I say this with respect. The person who recommended it, why didn't you just say

what planet did you parachute in from? Why do I want to leave with my initial thoughts? Why do I want to leave with my chin and get into beastiality? That was my initial response, Senator. But they then explained to me and showed me cases in which people were forced into it and had applied to the FBI. And so I thought they should be considered. It's not an automatic disqualification.

That's all. Okay. All right. I think I understand. But you're not telling us today that if a human being had sex with an animal, that they can still be an FBI. Or a fungus. No. They can't be.

Can they cannot. In fact, they ought to be in jail, right? They all are. Yeah. Well, Patel lied under oath there, right? Because he did say, like, having sex with, even if you were forced to do so, you were compelled to do at the point of a gun, you still have sex, right? So he is saying, he's saying that you can have had sex with an animal. Just that, like, if you're the animal rapist, then that should be helpful.

against you when you apply for the FBI. And how do they even have evidence that the people- How do they know? Right. Like how- Do they check your genitals for animal DNA? What do they do? Like they do a scrape and they're like, you know, I think there's like wild boar here.

I don't even, yeah, I don't even know how they would know. Like, so the person, so what, the person gets caught, have access with an animal? And then they said, well, wait, even, that else force? And then they say, I would have a pack. and burning patch for the FBI and for law enforcement? How does that work? It's the light of tender test, because maybe you go through, you have to polygraph. One of the questions that they ask you is have you engaged in bestiality, prostitution.

Are you a giraffe fucker? Well, that would probably be difficult, but a goat, a pig. That's what God invented ladders. I mean, cows, that's a popular choice. But, I mean, no, there are options. You have variety. Diversity is. When I was at the elephant sanctuary, I let a giraffe take food out of my mouth and our mouth touched.

Would I pass the lie detector? Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's a good question. I mean, so there was an article in New York Magazine a number of years ago where they interviewed some guy anonymously, of course, who of course was German. and he claimed to be like a goat a horsefucker and that he would like sneak into people's barns and get he brought his own like ladder or bucket and he would get up behind the horse and fuck the horses yeah you can look it up um the thing is germany do you like this fucking psychos so anyway the point is the dude like so he was he claimed that it was consensual because he would like basically the horse the mayor

would like back up on him and like and like that's how he knew it was consensual it's like oh dude um i know i told this story before but i had a i had a relative um an in-law uh cousin uh cousin um she worked at george washington university medical center uh er and i asked for wild stories and she said one kind of guy came in wearing a trench coat and when he took it off he'd been fucking his cat and a cat was like locked on to his penis And then I said, oh my God, what did you do? And she looks at me like I'm an idiot. And she goes, well, what do you think we did?

I go, me? If I were there, I would have taken him back behind the hospital and shot him and dumped him in the medical waste. But I'm sure that's not what you did. So what did you do? And she said, oh, we gave him a muscle relaxing. We gave the cat a muscle relaxant because they have like spines in their genitals that like clamp on. That's why cats make so much noise when they're copulating. They're like, meow.

So you, so anyway, the point, it was gnarly. And I was like, did you, did he get to go home with his cat? And she said, yeah, I think so. I'm like, oh. He took the cat home? He took the victim home? Yeah, he took the victim home. I think he should be, honestly, I think he,

I think he should be in prison for like every lifetime. Like, I mean, like I never want him walking the streets at all. Or maybe he's now at the FBI as a senior agent. Right, right. I don't know. Right. You have a vibrant career. I mean, okay, so, okay, I mean, what is this about, right?

Like, is this about bureaucracy gone wild where you have to cover for every little thing? Or is this? And also, like, what is about, like, I mean, Cash Patel, I mean, he should have just, I think at a certain point he should have just refused to answer these questions. I mean, it's sort of like, this is just so, like, it's so. undignified. It's the United States government. It's it's it's under oath. It's on Capitol Hill. He's talking to a United States senator. I mean, what the fuck? I mean, you know that like Putin's laughing his ass off right now. Can you imagine? I as strongly suspect this video is going to be

played in Iran and in Russia. Oh yeah. On national television like in auto looom. It's like these agents are fucking animals. That's what they're going to say, right? These Americans are degenerous. They hire animal fuckers to be, to be FBI agents. Epstein class and the animal fucker class.

It's true. Oh, God, man. I don't know what this says. I honest, the guy, I don't. I don't even. I mean, it's awesome. I would not have even done this as an FBI director.

I just wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't have done it either. I think I would have just been like, you know what, as woke as I am, I'm willing to discriminate against victims of and of beastiality traffickers. I'm willing to do that. I'm willing to bet, Ted, that if we invited someone on and they're selling a book and you're trying to be very gentlemanly and have a nice interview with this person about their book. And they start talking about how it's okay to get into bestiality that you would probably crucify that person on a barn door.

And that would be a beautiful thing to see. That's the tail like cats. Oh, don't be fucking with my cats. Macadon has a great question pertinent to this. Thanks for the dollar, by the way. The real question is, who pays a goat pimp instead of buying a goat? Why rent one you could own? So true.

You can just own the goat. And then when he gets long in the tooth, you can eat him. Right. Everybody goes hunger. It's like, all right, Stella. One more question. One more topic. Kind of related, sort of, not really, but ICE, the U.S. government we know has been hiring,

ICE has been hiring all sorts of unqualified mooks, goons, random idiots, people who've been fired from, to be fired from an American police force for being too violent. You have to. That's saying something. And, but these, those are the people who ended up going, getting jobs at ICE. And now a lot of, so quietly, ICE has been firing a lot of the people that they just hired. They offered kind of people who would not ever have been allowed back in law enforcement, sort of a second lease on life.

And now the rug is being pulled out from under them. And some of them are starting to are so desperate now because they thought their life was back on track that now they're committing suicide. So, I mean, you know, I don't normally have sympathy for anyone who would enlist in ICE, but I just think like it is a, I mean, I mean, no one should. It's inexcusable. But it's, I mean, it's kind of like just a reminder, right? Like, ICE officers are evil, but the government that hires them is even worse. Because they're feckless.

They hire you to do their thuggery. And then when they're done with you, they throw you away like tissue paper, just like a military veteran. Yeah, but they were willing to do the thuggery. I mean, this is not like a military vet. Maybe it is. I mean. Yeah, they're volunteers. Just the same thing.

There's some reason I feel there's a difference. I don't know why. I don't know. How is there a difference? It's the same thing. I think because I don't think the military, look, I think if you're in special services, special forces, like Delta Squad and all the stuff. Okay, these people are the screws. I mean, and I don't mean that in a horrible sense.

I mean that just in the shit that they're willing to put themselves through in order to get that level of capability. And then, of course, they use the capability to do very bad harm. I don't sense the military that way. I think many of people join the military because they think it's like a job. Like, it's not a job, but they think of it like a job. Like, they go to it. And in fact, half of the military budget that we spend is paying soldiers. Like, it's not even the murders.

It's paying looters. So many of those people take the job. They're sitting in Los Angeles. They're sitting in San Diego. They're sitting in Ohio. They're sitting in Japan. They're sitting wherever. And they never see combat.

And they never will see combat. And they would leave the military and go up with their life. I guess I'm making the point of saying ICE, those people are joining it. Many of those people have screw loose. Screw loose is in general. And are doing just horrible things to the population in the United States. Yeah, but some of them honestly just view it as a job too. It pays really well.

I suppose it does. but the reputation of ICE is very different than a reputation of the U.S. military in the way that people see it. Look, maybe this is my own consumption and maybe I need to think through it, but I feel that there's a difference. I've had a hard time articulating a feeling, but I feel like that's a difference. Yeah, well, the propaganda machine is much more efficient when it comes to ICE, I mean to the military. It's like it's red, white and blue, you get buried at Arlington, you're, you're defending American freedoms, blah, blah, blah. Ice is more like, this is your opportunity to go pick up,

up a nanny and beat the shit out of her and put her in a cage before you deport her. And as you put it out, second Lisa in life because they were too valent in the regular jobs that they were doing before. I'm less, I gotta be honest, I'm less sympathetic, even though maybe I should be more sympathetic. I always think that these are people. I just, you know, I'm always going to side with people over over the government, you know, even when they're bad people. I mean, there's any organization that hires one group to go and beat or kill another group, You know, which is worse, the people who hire them or the people who actually...

Yeah, the hires. Yeah. But those who are hired are also assholes. Right. Yeah. Both are pretty bad. Robbie? Yeah.

I mean, just... And when we're talking about it, I was talking to them and said, instead of joining up being a mercenary for Israel, if you really want to defend the United States, I would make a better choice because the pay is going to be better. you're not going to be shipping off to some Godforsaken place, 5,000 miles away from home, fighting people who do you mean you no harm, who've never hurt you in any way, shape, or form.

You can at least make a case that it's enforcing American law. Yeah, we got it. We got it. We got to wrap. Thanks so much, everyone. We will see you guys tomorrow, Thursday, 9 a.m. to 10 a.m. tomorrow, Dubby, thank you so much. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in. See you soon.

Well, noon, right? Oh, no, no. Oh, yeah, we have the, we were going to combine the Q&A. Oh, yeah, that's right. No, Q&A show, right. See you at noon. Yeah. All right, 12 noon.

Bye.