DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - US to Arabs: Huck You | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST.Today we discuss:• Mike Huckabee, U.S. ambassador to Israel, prompted condemnation from Arab leaders after he suggested approval for a Greater Israel stretching across the Middle East from Egypt to Iraq. Asked if Israel had the right to the lands from Egypt to the Euphrates River he replied, “It would be fine if they took it all. But…they don’t want to take it over, they’re not asking to take it over,” he added. What if Israel were to ask?• U.S. stock futures fell after Trump said he’s raising his global tariffs to 10%, and then 15%, following the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down the president’s “reciprocal” tariffs. Dow Jones Industrial Average futures dropped 250 points, or 0.5%. Gold prices jumped.• It’s the fourth anniversary of the Russo-Ukrainian War.• France summons the US ambassador to express harsh displeasure at a State Department statement about Quentin Deranque. Foreign affairs minister Jean-Noel Barrot said: “We reject any instrumentalization of this tragedy, which has plunged a French family into mourning, for political ends. We have no lessons to learn, particularly on the issue of violence, from the international reactionary movement.”JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLE!https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowFOLLOW TED:https://rall.com/https://x.com/tedrallFOLLOW JOHN:https://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakouhttps://x.com/JohnKiriakouLISTEN ON SPOTIFY:LISTEN ON APPLE MUSIC:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall

Good morning. You're watching the program with Ted Rall and John Kariaku. Good morning, John. Morning, Ted. Welcome to Washington, Ted. Thank you. It's good to be here. Monday. It is Monday, February 23rd. And thank you everyone for tuning in. Please like, follow, and share the show. If my Wi-Fi is a little squarely this morning, it's because I'm in an unfamiliar place with an unfamiliar ancient 19th century Wi-Fi. So here's what we're going to be talking about. about Mike Huckabee, making friends across the Middle East. We'll be talking about, we'll be talking about U.S. stock futures are down this morning. Trump is back at the tariff thing. Supreme Court be damned. We'll be talking about that. It's the fourth anniversary of the Russian invasion of

Ukraine, and France is really pissed at the U.S. for its comments about Quentin de Runk, if this is a story that probably you're going to be following here more than anywhere else, it's worth knowing about and both explain why. As usual, please put your comments and questions in the live chat, in Rumble, and in YouTube. We're looking forward to those. We love those. So keep those coming. And always thank you in advance for all of your donations that keep the show going and make it viable.

And we would enjoy doing it anyway, but we really appreciate your appreciates. All right, John, before we get before we get into some of the comments, which by the way, Robbie hasn't, we're still waiting for them to come up. Yep. Let's go ahead and talk about one of our topics. What would you like to go with first? We've got to start with Mike Huckabee. Yeah, we do. I don't mean to laugh because it's not funny.

It's deadly serious. But Mike Huckabee has to be the biggest, if not one of the biggest, juby. jackasses ever to serve as an American ambassador in any country, in any era in American history. I just, yeah, listen, I get that the guy's an evangelical. I get that. But when you are an ambassador, your title is ambassador, extraordinary, and plenipotentiary, and personal representative of the president of the United States. That's the official title, which means you don't have any opinions. Your opinion, is the opinion of the president of the United States.

And even this president doesn't believe that Israel, greater Israel should extend from the Euphrates River to the Nile. So, you know, what we're talking about here is that, is that Huckabee finally agreed to give Tucker Carlson an interview finally. After being battered about the head and face, he finally said yes. That was probably a mistake on Huckabee's part. It was a mistake on Huckabee's part. Absolutely, positively, it was a mistake because Huckabee thinks, even after a year of being ambassador, that he's allowed to have opinions.

And he's not allowed to have opinions. His opinion is whatever the president tells him his opinion is. And even this president has friends who lead Arab countries. So, first of all, I don't know if you've seen the shorts that Tucker has done. I've been like doing a Tucker deep dive for the last couple of days. You know, harassed at the airport going in, harassed the airport coming out, his staff was harassed, his cameraman was harassed. They wouldn't even give him flight clearance.

Just to be on the safe side, what Tucker did was he chartered a private jet. And he said, I never do this because I'm too cheap and jets are really expensive. I always fly commercial. but this time he said, I decided to fly private just because we thought it would be easier. And it actually wasn't easier. And so what they did was they sent a message to the American embassy, asking the American embassy to inform the Israeli military

that this plane is coming in and it's carrying Tucker Carlson and his team. And Huckabee said, no, we're not going to tell the Israelis anything. And he said that he reminded Huckabee that the Israeli military controls Israeli airspace. There's not a civil aviation authority. It's the military. And Huckabee said, I don't care. So Tucker said he had to make this decision. Like, are they going to shoot me down because I'm Tucker Carlson?

Or is Huckabee going to come through? So they just risked it. And they flew in and it was okay. but then at the same time, you know, you have to worry about what might happen. And what ended up happening was that they were harassed at every single step of the way. And then Huckabee just made a complete of himself in the interview. Right. So let's go specifically. Let's quote exactly what the words that are, because Huckabee is doing what, you know,

politicians do when they get in trouble. They're trying to say that they didn't say what they said, right? He said, this is a quote. It would be fine. So he was asked about, you know, the Old Testament. I mean, this is kind of ridiculous that foreign policy is based on the Bible. But anyway, he was asked about the Old Testament and said, you know, so what do you think about the promise in the old covenant that the you know basically the that these Israelites are entitled to all of the lands from Egypt to the Euphrates River so in other words we're talking about contemporary Israel plus the occupied territories Jordan obviously Egypt Saudi Arabia no Iraq what am I forgetting all Jordan and the entire Sinai Peninsula and all of the and we're talking and I guess we're

talking about Yemen and Oman we'd be talking about the we'd be talking about the we'd be talking about the Gulf states, right? So, so anyway, it's a lot of territory. And anyway, Huckabee said it would be fine if they, the Israelis, took it all. Yeah, I don't care. He said, I don't care. They could take it all. But he said, this is what he's walking back. He said, but I also said, and this is true, he did say this, but they don't want to take it over. They're not asking to take it over. Okay, that's true in Huckabee's defense. However, he's missing the point. The point is, like, you're pretending like, well, what if the Israelis were to ask? Then what? I mean, you know, I would say that a standard opinion of every diplomat in a post-Meternic

world is the international borders are sacrosanct. All the countries that are here now are entitled to their national sovereignty. We're not, we don't look to change any of that. We don't want to change any borders. We wouldn't, we don't care what Israel would say or anyone else. Israel has hasn't brought it up, but if they did, we would say no, right? I think that would be the correct answer. Right. Something along those lines, more temperate. But he's basically not saying, he's not getting it.

Like, basically it's like, well, whatever Israel wants, Israel gets is what he's saying. Take it. Just take it. I mean, not that they could, you know, and it's true. They're not even Benjamin Netanyahu is not insane enough at this stage to try to, you know, propose anything like that. But, I mean, this is about. this is about, you know, anybody,

this really feeds into some seriously crazy, you know, I mean, the Zionism in this administration is way off the charts, right? It goes to 12. We've never, we've never seen anything like this before. Never. Yeah. I mean, I mean, look, Mike Hockabee has always been an idiot. And, you know, I mean, and I don't think much more of his daughter.

But it's like, this is really, a new low. I mean, I know the, I know the president doesn't want to get rid of him. I mean, any more than he wants to get rid of Christy Nome. But, you know, the embarrassments are stacking up. I mean, I think the administration is kind of in the need of a of a purge, right? It's time for a for a Saturday night massacre to get rid of some people. I mean, Christy Nome over the weekend, right, tried to shut down TSA pre and global entry. She said, basically she kind of implied, like, well, who are these fancy people with their TSA pre, like, that they, that they can just glide through. It's like, well, these are the people who paid $85 to $115 to be able to do that in a program that the government had, you know, offered them.

And it makes it easier for TSA, right, for people to already be pre-screened. But it's like they're not fancy people, right? It's $85 for five years. But the, but he, but then she had to walk it back because the airlines were furious about this, because they thought they were going to get so many complaints. It was going to cost them a lot of money. And so she walks it back. And I'm thinking, this is the same lady who fired her and then unfired her pilot

because, you know, she forgot her blankie on board for her and Corey. I mean, it's kind of like you fly in a private government jet and you're going to tell other people that who are, you know, sloughing through coach on an American domestic carrier that, like, they're fancy. I mean, I don't know. It's just like the communication. I mean, they have failed at the cabinet level. Yeah, they have.

Don't forget, Huckabee was the one who welcomed with open arms, the traitor Jonathan Pollard, and fetid him at the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. I said on Twitter back then, within hours that Huckabee should resign. He is not the appropriate person for us to have representing American interests in Israel because he doesn't represent American interests. He represents Israeli interests and he represents evangelical Zionist Christian interests. And that's it, not the rest of the country. Well, and this, you know, so I think, you know, there's always, I think the big unintended consequence here is that the idea that Israel dreams of a greater Israel is now out of the open.

It's not something that the average American, even political junkie was aware of. And now there's these images online of certain IDF battalions that they have these shoulder patches that purport. I'm not sure this is accurate or not. I don't know. But the purport to show like a map of Greater Israel that's on the soldiers' shoulders. I don't know if it's true or not. It kind of doesn't matter. The fact that it's being discussed like Greater Israel is a thing.

It's like Greater Serbia or any greater anything. It's like this is something that now Americans are awake. Israel's not content with just their little piece of New Jersey, the size of New Jersey, or even like grabbing their occupied territories and annexing them. They want the whole smear. That's right. The whole thing, including all of the oil and all of the water. It's like, if true, this is something that I think might, you know, put it be a chip in the armor of the Zionist movement in the United States. I mean, a lot of Americans don't think that's okay, even people who support Israel.

Even evangelicals. Because not every evangelical Christian is a Zionist. Right. Last night, I stayed up late, I stayed up late just going through what people were saying about Tucker's interview with Huckabee. And a lot of evangelicals were beside themselves. that he would say such stupid and ill-informed things. I mean, Robbie's an evangelical Christian, and Robbie's cracking on Huckabee and Huckabee's biblical reasoning.

It just doesn't make sense. Huckabee, please, Robbie, come on. Come and tell us. Tucker, not just Tucker, but this parade last night on Twitter and on Facebook of evangelical preachers, men and women just saying Hacobie is wrong, wrong, wrong in his interpretation of the scripture. Because he is.

So if you go back to the time of Joshua, that's what those promises were given. It was for Moses and it was for the children of Israel. Here's the problem. The covenant was contingent on on the Israelites obedience to God. The entire point

was for them to come out to be a light to show people know who the real true God is and to live accordingly. That was the whole point. They didn't. They failed. I mean, as soon as Moses,

something about Sinai to get the Ten Commandments, what did they do? They made a golden calf and started doing their crap. They started bawling it up. 100%. So for one thing,

they, all you got to do is going to read your Bible, the entire premise that God's promises are unconditional, regardless of your obedience, is false on its face. Well, especially in the Old, in the Old Testament, right? Well, it's the same for both. And also, you know, the borders that the Bible, the Bible puts out has to do with the millennial reign of Christ. It was never about, it was never about the world we live in now anyway. You are absolutely right. This is insane. And I get into this all the time with people at my church my church is let i go to a little baptist church here in calisbelle montana i'm like one of only two people

it's not a zionist and it's crazy because but that lets you do is sharpen your arguments how you sharpen your arguments by doing this thing called reading which i like to do anyway that this is insane Tucker carlson destroyed and i mean that sincerely he destroyed Huckabee on what should have been Huckabee's home turf which is theology Tucker Carlson has more IQ in his little toe than Huckabee. Oh, incredibly so. I mean, it's definitely Godzilla versus Bambi. But, you know, I mean, so I got to ask, I mean, if we got a time machine and you can go back and tell the, you know, the UN and Truman and all the people who pushed for the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, I mean, I think with the benefit of hindsight, if we could under.

do the name, just change it to like Jewistan or something. And like not let them have the Star of David on the flag, you'd be solving a lot of problems because they're conflating themselves. They're like, oh, we're a continuously operating entity since, you know, for the last 3,500 or more years. That's just not true. Here's the problem is that they believe their own BS. That's the problem. So they believe that they are the chosen people of God. about racism. I get called a racist daily on this show because I think they need to have I'm sorry I do that Robbie. It's fine. It's okay. I have thick skin. I can handle it. Okay. Let me ask before you finish the sentence. Who are you supposed to be racist against?

I have no idea. I just am. It just happens. Yeah. I'm a white guy who normally has a southern accent when my throat ain't sore. But do people know that your wife is black and your kids are biracial? Some of the comments say that she's been colonized or that she's a race trader. It's pretty gnarly. That's lovely. It's great out of the U.S. prison system. It's okay. But here's the thing, though. I guess I could be a white nationalist and not believe I'm a chosen by God to be able to go and kill people and take their land because my ancestors were promised 3,000 years ago for a promise that my ancestors violated Ancestors.

Ancestors in scare quotes. No, the thing is, John, your Greek ancestors, they got more of a claim to Anatolia. Yeah. Than the Jewish Ashkenazis from Poland have for the Levant. Yes, indeed.

Stick up your Pope and smoke it. These claims are ridiculous, and thank you very much for that, Robbie. We'll be seeing more of you. All right, so I guess the question is, Mike Kukabee is safe because Donald Trump doesn't like to fire people because he thinks firing people makes him look weak. He's not entirely wrong about that. But, you know, I mean, you know he's on the phone with the Arab League, 14 Arab countries.

And then, you know, there's the countries he didn't even hear from who were pissed too. Yeah. So, you know, he's got to be, he's got to be saying like, no, no, no, no, that's not our policy. I mean, there's not going to be, and nothing's really going to happen as a result. of this, right? But it's just a bad look. But I'll say literally every Middle Eastern country plus the organization of Islamic of the Islamic Conference OIC or whatever they just recently changed the name, whatever OIC now stands for, plus the Gulf Cooperation Council, plus the Arab League, all filed formal diplomatic protests. This guy, listen, I've been watching

foreign policy or participating in the formulation and implementation of foreign policy. you for many, many years. I've never seen this happen before. Never. Yeah, no. Well, while we're at it, we probably, this is probably, we can segue, and we have promise, we're going to get to your questions, but it seems like a natural segue, John, to the French situation, because it's also a diplomatic row, right?

So, you know, obviously this kid, Quentin de Ranc, 23 years old, a right-wing activist, was in a brawl, street brawl between far rightists. that he was with and far leftists. Just for whatever it matters, there was a left wing event being held. And then the right wingers were protesting the left wing event. And basically they both have kind of like young, like sort of advanced guard, goon squad type people.

And they all, they were beating each other up. And D'Iran got the worst of it and died, unfortunately, tragically, stupidly. And so anyway, the French, the US State Department issued a statement on the statement on their Twitter feed, on their socials, basically saying, this is what, basically what happens, left-wingers are killers, and this is what's happening,

and we're very concerned about that. I thought this was, for people who don't follow diplomacy, but John, I'm very interested in your thoughts here, this is a very, I thought, a very harshly worded statement. The Foreign Affairs Minister, Jean-Noelle Barreau said, we reject any instrumentation of this tragedy, which is basically a terrible, translation, but basically exploitation would be a better word, which has plunged a French

family into mourning for political end. We have no lessons to learn, particularly on the issue of violence from the international reactionary movement. So he's calling the U.S. State Department under the Trump administration part of a vast right-wing global conspiracy, basically. I'm not sure he's wrong. And there is an international reactionary movement. You know, it's in places, you know, people like Malay and it's all over the world. But I mean, for the French to be, you know, who are so temperate, who arguably, you know, they, they were ground zero of international diplomacy in the Western world for centuries. You know, French was the international language of the diplomatic corps. You know, France is super important as a, in the world of diplomacy.

Does this shock you to see the French basically saying, fuck off and shut up? No. I'm frankly surprised it took them this long to do it. Really? The French have had enough of us. A lot of countries have had enough of us. The Danes are beside themselves. You and I didn't get a chance to talk at the end of last week about Lindsay Graham making

an utter ass of himself in a meeting with the Danish and Greenland prime ministers in which he repeatedly dropped the F-bomb and said, Greenland is ours. Get used to the idea. are European friends and allies? And I say friends and allies because we've been friends and allies for 250 years are sick of us. They're sick of this, this neocon bullshit that has reared its ugly head. And they're tired of the likes of Lindsay Graham and Mike Huckabee telling them how to run their countries and live their lives. They're sick of it.

And so we know that the conventional wisdom is they're just going to hang on for another two and a half years. but we're getting to the point where even that is starting to look too hard. And the thing is, we used to be big daddy shelling out the big defense bucks so they kind of had to shut up whenever we said stupid things. Trump's taking that back, not wrongly in my opinion.

But the thing is, if you're, it's kind of like if your kid is in college and you're sending money and you're paying the tuition, they kind of have to be somewhat respectful. but if you decide like you're on your own, get a job, you know, get work, become a work study student and I'm not helping you. Your kid can tell you what they think of you. And that's, I think, what's going on here with the Europeans. I agree with you.

I agree. And so, anyway, so we'll watch this, but I thought it was a very strongly worded statement. What do you make of the statement of France basically accusing the United States government of being part of an international reactionary move? that's overstating the case? Yeah. It is. It's overstating it. And I think that they're lashing out because they're very angry.

I think that's what it is. Yeah, I mean, basically what the French are saying, I mean, it is true that their justice minister was pretty intemperate and was accusing the left of being involved. But immediately, starting with President Macron and all throughout the rest of the French system, they all said, like, we're going to, this is the opposite of what we're seeing here. They had the traditional, like, we're going to let the justice system play out.

We're going to let the investigation finish. We'll see, then we'll see what's what. But the government shouldn't have any comments on this at all. They're right. And so for the U.S. to come in and try to stir the pot as they saw it, I think really just infuriated. Agreed. Okay. So ready for some questions?

Yeah, the best part. Flanderina got a little halfway through Tucker's interview with Huckabee, and I was just too disgusted to continue. How that man, Huck, qualifies as a man of God baffles me. I agree with that. For both of us, Frasmataz, how does Antifa in Europe play into NATO's three objectives, keeping Russia out, America in, and Germans down? I wish it was about keeping Germans down.

I'm not happy about the fact that Germany has such an incredibly powerful role in post-World War Europe. Antifa in Europe is real, unlike Antifa in the United States. I mean, it is a real thing. There's organization, but they're part of political, of party infrastructures. Like in France, they have their, you know, La France insoumise is basically an Antifa party. And Antifa, you know, operates within that tent. Other countries have analogies there. But I don't, I think the implication from Frasmataz is that it's like somehow a tool of NATO.

I know. No. Antifa is like more is no. Listen, you and I have talked about this. I don't really believe that there is such a thing as Antifa. There's not a movement. Yeah, it's not an organization. No.

Yeah, like I'm a card carrying member of Antifa. That's not a thing. Exactly. Okay, do we have definitely have a chat about Mexico, if you can, guys. Thanks for bringing that up. Killer Cola. I'd be clean to know if you've any experiences with Mexico and information with the cartels. Yeah, so basically what this is, of course, is a big story is that the Mexicans basically killed one of their big cartel chiefs over the weekend.

A bunch of U.S. tourists are kind of marooned down there. Did you see the video from Guadalajara Airport? People were literally running for their lives, hiding under benches, hiding in the back. bathrooms escape from Kabul. At least they're not falling off the planes yet. Look, if I have to be stuck somewhere, you know, I want to be stuck where the margaritas are made properly. I wouldn't have a problem with it. But anyway, I take I take this as a, you know, basically this is shine bomb deciding to flex muscle for the central government. You know, her predecessors did the same thing, but basically it's like you guys don't get to run my country. The political class gets to run this

country. That's what this is about. It's this on it's the struggle isn't over. No. Hey one one cool thing about this too is you know at the beginning the USG, you know, took equal credit and that that wasn't the case. The US had some electronic intelligence that it passed to the Mexican government and the Mexicans did this completely on their own. Very impressive. It's very impressive also when you consider how like even, even though corruption is a thing in the Mexican police and the Federales, it's not nearly as deep or as widespread or pervasive as you'd expect it to be in a country with those demographics. You know, they do a pretty good job of keeping themselves honest and even being willing to die

to try to, you know, go after the cartels and keep the Mexican people safe. I mean, it's not easy for them. And I mean, I think they're doing yeoman's work considering. The cards they're dealt. It's incredible. I agree. Faz Rust, thank you for subscribing to deprogrammed. Much appreciated.

Tarique, Robbie, please have this question. Isn't using theological just justifications, so I'll put Robbie on here. Isn't using theological justifications for geopolitical ambitions what the worst people we claim do? I think we understand what that was trying to say. Yeah, especially if you're stupid. I mean, you got to be, you have to at least be honest about it.

If you ask me what my religious beliefs are, I will tell you. And it is what it is. But Huckabee's a moron. And frankly, political Zionism is stupid. And to try to wrap, especially if you go and if you try to, try to wrap it around, the cross of Christ, who one of his titles is the Prince of Peace. And then you advocate the murder of children. Uh-huh.

that is peak level hypocrisy, and one of Jesus' harshest curses that he has on people is directly for people who harm children. Yeah, the hypocrites is a word that comes up a lot in the Bible. Yeah. All right, thank you very much for that, Robbie. Let me get back in here. Have either of us watched, John Brenn wants to know, Punishment Park, I've heard of this, 1971 alt history,

where Nixon gets emergency powers and gives hippies the choice to go to jail, or run from the police in the desert. I love the 70s. The 70s had so many great movies of that ilk. Have you seen it? I haven't. I haven't. No.

I got to see it. I love... Now, I have to see it, too. Yeah, that's like wild in the streets or, you know, I love those movies. Have you seen that? Wild in the streets? No. Oh, so that, you know, the, you know, pot of that, right?

Like, it's basically, it's don't trust anyone over 30. Everyone over 30 ends up in concentration camps. Is it Richard Holbrook, I think, is the... Is the senator or someone who's like the father of the guy who leads the youth revolution and he ends up in a prison camp high on LSD with his wife? It's very, very funny. I mean, so experimental. But I'm glad that Richard Nixon came up in a serious way because more and more,

this is feeling like the Nixon administration, right? I mean, you know, we have Israel at war. We have, you know, the, you know, the, basically the ice in the streets of American cities is kind of analogous to when Nixon deployed the National Guard to crush student protests and left-wing protests against the Vietnam War in the 70s. And that was a really like a part of American history that really traumatized that entire boomer generation, right? It was like, you know, war used to be something that the U.S. did somewhere else. And now it's here at home.

That's what it feels like now. I would agree with that, but I would disagree in that as reactionary as many of us thought Richard Nixon was at the time. Oh, right. He wasn't. And for the most part, I mean, obviously, Watergate aside, Nixon was one of those, you know, normal politicians who played by the rules generally. Well, yeah, I mean, he did take. You know, when the courts ruled against him and told him he had to release the tapes, he did. He didn't want to.

He did. He did redact a lot. Yeah. But, I mean, so that's interesting, right? Like, actually, the Supreme provides another segue, right? So this is about the tariffs. Supreme Court, after our show Friday, right after we went off the air, you know they were waiting for that. Oh, yeah.

They announced that in a 6 to 3 decision with three Republicans, voting, three conservatives voting no, Alito, Thomas, and Kavanaugh, that the president does not, is not have an authorization under the U.S. Constitution to impose these kinds of tariffs. He immediately, so immediately upon that news, the New York Stock Exchange, the Dow Jones Industrial's average, increased by 300 points, not huge, but, you know, it's a rally. And over the weekend, the president announced, fuck that. I don't care what the court had to say. I'm still increasing tariffs to 10%.

And he said, no, no, fuck 10%. I mean 15%. And then basically this morning, right before we went on the air, the market's just opened two minutes ago. But the futures indicated that the market would be down about the same amount. Basically, the rally has just been erased, 250 points down when I check this research, when I did this morning. John, gold prices are up.

John loves gold. John lovesgold.com. So, so anyway, the, so the, so anyway, the, but this is, I thought the interesting story here was, you know, compared to Richard Nixon, John, right? Like, Richard Nixon respected the Supreme Court, even when it ruled against him, even though he, you know, he was raging over, like, highballs. in the White House at two in the morning, but he listened to them. And the thing is, they weren't looking for like sort of a,

like a workaround. Yes. Within 24 hours, the White House, the administration, all of their supporters were like, well, there's another way to do it, and immediately announced that they were going to raise these tariffs anyway.

I mean, Supreme Court's message was kind of clear where the U.S. fucking Supreme Court, no tariffs. And, but, like, Like, what does it say about the separation of powers, John? If the spirit of the court's ruling is ignored so quickly and so insolently. Yeah. Where do you even...

It's a landmark decision, too. Again, it's a landmark decision. And I'll tell you what, if we should be angry with anybody, we should be angry with Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch. Because they're the same guys that bitched, and bitched and bitched every time Joe Biden wanted to do something. And then this doctrine that they just made up, the major decisions doctrine,

that they just made up and said didn't exist when Joe Biden was president and now magically exists that while Donald Trump is president, gives the president the right to completely ignore the Constitution and to unilaterally levy sanctions against countries. And John Robert said, no. That's not the case at all. In fact, the decision was 21 pages long, written by Roberts. The dissent that these three bozos wrote was 42 pages long.

They needed double the pages to just try to explain their way out of their partisanship. So listen, again, we said this weeks ago, the Constitution cannot possibly be any more clear. Congress has to levy sanctions. I mean tariffs, Congress levies tariffs, presidents don't levy tariffs. Unless you levy a tariff on literally every country in the world. Now, if you are a country like India that negotiated a lower tariff and now, oh, overnight, sorry, it's back up to 15% whether you like it or not, well, that's on you then. And by the way, the countries that did rush to negotiate with the administration are feeling pretty stupid now because a lot of

lot of them have a, they settled for the bargain rate, which turns out to now be still a higher rate than the 15%. That's right. Yeah. So it all goes to show it's better to wait and see. But I mean, it does tell me that the system is in crisis. It's another sign, symptom to me, of a system in crisis, because our federal system is all based on separation of powers. And if one branch can just decide to completely ignore the highest authority, of a rival branch, then there is no check or balance, right? I mean, I mean, I know the Supreme Court doesn't do this, but I kind of wish Justice Roberts would issue a statement and say,

when the Supreme, you know, that basically says when the Supreme Court says to do something, you're supposed to do it and you're not supposed to quibble. Yeah, you're not. You're supposed to just do it. Yeah. I mean, it's like... But even the Supreme Court, like I say, even the Supreme Court can't figure out. what their role is.

Well, yeah, and of course, that was always the problem, right, John, when, you know, people like us, I'm sure you were the same, when you first are studying as a kid and in college about the way our system works, and it's kind of like, well, what happens if the president were to ignore the Supreme Court? Well, that never happens. But what if he were? Well, how do they enforce it? Would there, would the police go?

It's like, no, they don't have an armed force. There's nothing they can do. No. Oh, really? So it's just basically, well, because it's 18th century gentleman. who came up with this idea and they were British and of course everyone does the right thing everyone jolly well knows that that's right but like but what if they didn't yeah well but they yeah now here we are yeah it was even like during wartime where you know you took a break at four o'clock and

had tea you took a break from shooting each other or you always you almost you know you stood in a long line with your guns and you waited till the other side was standing in their long line with their guns, but gentlemen didn't try to, you know, preempt the other side. Or shoot at each other from behind trees like the Americans. Uh-huh. Yeah, we're not a nation of gentlemen. We're like hard scrabble fuckers is what we are. And that can be good until it's not good.

Flandarina, this weekend we heard from family in the West Bank that Israeli settlers terrorized three families so much that they've been forced to abandon their homes. Huckabee would tell them they're entitled to do it. Yeah, well, not to mention. pissed off about the 19-year-old Palestinian, American, U.S. citizen, U.S. passport holder, American, who was killed by the idea and the sailors and the settlers over there in the West Bank. And Israel does not give us shit. And the U.S. government does not give a shit.

Nope. American citizen. And I'll tell you what, if Huckabee had been doing anything, he should have been jumping up and down on the head of Smotrich and Ben Gavir after this American was killed in the West Bank. Good question here from Dalton. Apologies for the misspelling Friday. I don't even know what that was. It's been a long weekend.

The question was due to the outcome of the Venezuelan raid. Could that possibly be giving Trump false confidence for his income upcoming attack against Iran? It's possible. I mean, we're hearing a lot of the same kind of speculation that Trump might want to do the same thing to Iran, like remove a top official like Ayatollah, like Ali Kamenei, the supreme leader, the religious leader.

But Iran is not an absolute dictatorship. It's not like removing Saddam Hussein. You don't, you don't, you decapitate it. It doesn't mean anything. Iran's government remains in place. They've just lost one person. I mean, that guy's old. He's going to die anyway, right?

I mean, it's not like they haven't thought of this. That's right. There's a whole system. It's a real country. It's not a, it's not, I mean, it's almost like they think it's the death star. And if they hit that little, that little clitoris, they can X marks the spot, right? Iran doesn't go that way. No.

And, you know, it's one thing to, it's one thing to just, you know, send in a small team and snatch a guy out of his bed. It's another thing entirely to attack a country of 90 million. people with hypersonic weapons and the support of Russia and China. And a 5,000-year-old continuous civilization. That's right. Yeah. And that's where monotheism comes from. Charati says that he or she, they like your new PC.

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Apple Care. They were like, yeah, you have a lot of data. Ah, well, don't let the NSA now. Oh, they already know. Elliot, John, what does it say about Israeli influence that Jonathan Pollard got a pardon? But you haven't. I don't think he got a pardon. He did it every day of his 30-year sentence and then was released because they had to release him.

But I don't think he got a pardon. Why did he only get 30 years? I mean, I know 30 years is a long fucking time. That was the deal. He took a plea just so more. classified information wasn't released in in court. Did he cooperate with what he, to explain what he did and all that? Yeah, here it is.

Jonathan Pollard was not pardoned, but rather released on parole in 2015 after serving 30 years for spying for Israel. The conditions of his parole expired in November 2020, allowing him to move to Israel. Gotcha. President Trump did, however, pardon Pollard's Israeli intelligence service handler, Aviam Sella in January 21. Really? I didn't know that.

That's crazy. Oh my God. That's really surprising. That's more surprising than Pollard, really. Wow. Yeah, that's even worse. That is worse. HP, good morning.

What do we think about India's support of the Israelis? I find it really mystifying, John. I don't know if that's because it's a Modi thing, and he just wants to be on the winning team and he thinks that's it. Because, I mean, politically, look, India is a country that suffered under colonialism and, you know,

and I mean, settler colonialism, you know, fucked up India for, you know, 150 years. And it's like they, of all people, should be sympathizing with the Palestinian cause. You can say that again. All right. So like the Irish.

Very unpredictable, though. Yeah. You know? Clearly. All right. Let's get into some donation, people. Thanks for the 11 euros from Hayden, 852. Good morning to us both, John, after listening to your most recent podcast with Julian,

do you have any thoughts on the files that he showed you and how deep it goes? I've never seen you so speechless. I was actually speechless. I gave an interview a couple of days ago to Julian Dory in New Jersey. Julian's a friend and he's a great guy and he's a terrific podcaster. Terrific. And I was literally speechless in this interview. He was showing me documents from the Epstein files that just blew my socks off.

I didn't even know what to say. And then even he said, I've never seen you speechless like this. I said, I can't even, like my brain can't wrap itself around what I'm looking at here. Yeah, it was, it was bad. Okay, sorry, I'm like talking to here. I'll just talk to Robbie. Robbie, do we have an ad? Oh, we do.

One second. I will throw it up for it. All right, put that up, and we'll talk about, take another question. I'll do the ad, and then you can come in and talk about what you need to talk about. All right, here we go. Okay. Tucker said, thanks for the five bucks from Chess Sniper. Tucker said that if war with Iran makes the U.S. richer, he would be in favor of it.

Shouldn't we be careful in giving this man too much praise? Yeah, you know what? That was a really stupid thing to say. I was surprised and disappointed when he said that. And I think he said it without thinking about it. Because he really is one of these, you know, no wars of choice kind of guys. So for him to say that,

it just sounded so, so flippant that. Well, he's very glib. Something that like, you know, I, you know, I'm glib too. And I really, so I, I, us glibbies, we recognize each other. I'm like, that's a glib guy.

And I think he was just, I think it's a joke, kind of. Yeah. You know, kind of like, well, if we were going to make us rich, okay, you know. John, I don't know you as someone who takes hearsay as evidence. Why believe Mark Epstein?

Why were you able to speak to him? He would have a vested interest in going along with an extraction. Let's see if that ad is up. Okay, so while you think about that, John, and we are number 12 in the nation in Rumble. Not that. I don't need to think about it. Okay, go ahead. Epstein's dead.

That's it. Epstein's dead. It's done. No, he's clearly dead. He's dead. He's not walking around. around Tel Aviv, going to the mall with his three-man security team, like Gemini AI wants you to think he is.

The way, yeah, well, here's the way I look at it, John. If you have an unusual theory about a political event or a historic event, then the proof, the proof is on you. If you think Adolf Hitler is still alive, then you need to prove it. I don't need to prove that he's not. Exactly. It's like that. Yes, precisely.

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And I said that one of the most dangerous places in the world was Gaza. Why would I say that? Well, the answer is there's a war going on there. Yeah, because you can ask the 400,000 Palestinians who have been killed in the last two and a half years. Yeah, it's not that the local authorities, such as they are, there are no local authorities anymore. You know, it's hard to say, I mean, I'm not well-traveled in Africa, so I can't answer that. But I would say generically, Pakistan is pretty sketchy. Yeah, yeah

It's so Chess sniper Thanks for the five bucks Tucker said that We already answered that Sorry about that my apologies Dumb question love the show Fun hob music Would Trump attack Iran to get ratings for his

State of the Union speech? Say that again Which state of the union address Is tomorrow night Would Trump attack Iran today or tomorrow In order to get ratings quote unquote for his for his speech i don't know if it's a dumb question no i don't think that's a dumb question i don't know i don't know um i suspect that like the military would uh would be

if the timing if that caused the timing to be bad i think the military would put the kibash on it right yeah i think so yeah um but you know okay um speaking of which supreme what do you expect to see tomorrow I think we're going to see another kind of like rambly like he'll start off going you know on message there will be a he'll be reading and then he'll start to you know basically run it like a campaign rally like he did last year yeah agreed okay firmware two bucks joint chiefs recommended against recognition and recognition of I don't even know do you know Okay. Dimitri, looking for your insight against, on the Mexican thing. What's your analysis? I don't think we've seen it on this scale before. Well, we already kind of talked about that. So does every country, this would be a question for you, John Furfer. Does every country announce their chief of stations to the hosting country? Not necessarily. It depends on the state of your relations with that country. And I'm not revealing classified.

information here. I'm just making this up. Let's say that we open an embassy in Mogadishu. Okay. We're probably not going to tell the Somali government. This guy right here is the CIA station chief because we wouldn't trust the government in Mogadishu and they'd probably try to take him out. That would be bad. You know, in most countries, yeah, you're going to reveal this station chief because that's the guy that's going to be liaising with you at a top level. So Elliot Covert has a question for me, but John, feel free to chime in. What are the odds of a national rally candidate winning the next presidential election in France? Isn't Marine Le Pen ineligible?

She is ineligible. A court ruled that she can't run for five years. It's now been, I guess, one and one and a half, so she's got three and a half to go, but she can't run next year. So that's true. Jordan Bardella is her protege. he's kind of like a Pete Buttigieg of the French right, I think is the best way to describe him. He's a small, fussy little man. He doesn't have, he's definitely an interesting guy.

Does he have what it takes to be elected president of France? At this point, I would say no. I mean, the election's a long way away, but I don't think he has the same charisma or the family, right name recognition of Marine Le Pen, whose father. of course, founded the party when it used to be called the National Front, and it was much more openly Vichy. I don't think so, I think, but I wouldn't say absolutely not. It's, what do you think, John? Yeah, I would agree. Yeah. Is the U.S. planning a French spring? Huh. I think better not be. France is a real country. A U.S. Triple X-A.A. Rod, thanks for the fiber. Trump has the U.S.

getting involved on many issues internationally, Iran, Israel, Ukraine, now Mexico. Is he spreading himself too thin now and setting the U.S. up for trouble? That's a good question. It's an excellent question. I think he spreads himself too thin domestically, too. I agree. He doesn't focus. I mean, you know, just do three things at a time.

That's it. Not meant to be disrespectful, original Umbra. John, you've often said that the CIA seeks sociopathic narcissists for their operatives. Does that mean you are a sociopathic narcissist? No, I never said anything about narcissists. I said people who have sociopathic tendencies. Somebody who has sociopathic tendencies is willing to work in legal and moral gray areas. And the example that I've used in interviews is, you know, would I be willing to break into a foreign embassy and steal documents?

Of course I would be. I can't tell you how many times I broke into people's homes and plant. the listening devices and little pinhole cameras because we're the good guys and they were the bad guys. And so, yeah, I was happy to do it. That's a sociopathic tendency because a normal person would not be willing to break into a house and plant eavesdropping equipment. I think it's important to distinguish between a tendency and like a full odd, right? Yeah. So you can have a tendency to like a porter a personality. Oh, did we lose Ted's, Ted's, Ted's, Ted's, Ted's, Ted's,

a historic inn in Washington. And I think that the signal is not very good. Unless it's me that's frozen. Hey, Robbie, can you hear me? I guess Robbie's frozen too. Okay, well, Robbie can hear me, but I think he's frozen. So I'm going to go to Robbie's next question, which he sends to us right here. Let me find it.

John, do you believe that the FBI did a good job with the J6 pipe bomb suspect? He's an autistic brawny black guy. Is there a motive? What about a report you promoted weeks before? So that report was withdrawn by the outlet that published it. There's Ted. And yeah, you know, with the suspect. being this autistic guy, it's a miracle to me that they didn't get him earlier. I'm not really

sure what's behind it. We haven't seen anything since the actual arrest. I didn't hear any of that, but I'm sure it was a brilliant answer, as always. Did we ever hear, do we ever come across question for both of us from Peru's? The late journalist John Pilger, he lived in the UK, but reported and made docs about the US too. Yeah, I knew John well. He and I were both on board of consortium news together. Good guy, very good guy. Brilliant journalist. I knew of him, loved his work, but I never met him. Great. While more Christians, Tyler wants to know, live in Qatar than Israel, their non-citizen workers often living in poorer conditions, unable to display crosses. What are Christian conditions in Israel like?

That's not exactly true. I've been to church in Qatar. I've been to church in Bahrain. I've into church in Kuwait, you can display a Christian cross. The only place where you can't display a cross is in Saudi Arabia. Okay. And not do it. You get arrested. Okay. Quick question.

Then I got to, well, let's do this. It's the fourth anniversary of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The war is entering its fifth exciting year. To all the, basically all the mainstream media is saying like, now Russia is really feeling the pain and now they're going to have to give up any day now they're high right john yeah the the Russians are winning that's that's the the bottom line the Russians are winning uh the the Ukrainians aren't going to win they can't win there's no incentive for the Russians to negotiate because they're winning so why would you negotiate and so you know

I think that we just have to sort of accept that. Quick question, Desert Fox. If I want to get, it's for you. If I want to get gold now, am I screwed or is there a way to prepare for the financial reset? It's a good question because it is high. It is high. You know, I asked the guy, I did an interview on Deep Focus with the sponsor, the CEO of the gold company. and he firmly believes that there is going to be a reset and that gold's going to continue to go higher.

I don't know, to tell you the truth, I'm not a commodities expert. But I will admit that I didn't go out and buy gold, but I went out and bought silver. Okay. Thanks for the $10 from John McGuire. Thanks for the $4 from Maria. Thank you. We got time for like maybe one or two more. Dimitri, John, what do you think of the administration's new prerogative for a strike against Iran?

Then, depending on circumstances, opting for a bigger response later in the year. What's the timeline? I don't think we yet know what the timeline is, but the president did say something funny that was leaked by somebody. He said he can't believe that the Iranians haven't capitulated. Why haven't they capitulated? So I think that this leak that I dutifully parroted last whenever it was, was Friday, I guess, that we were prepared to strike Iran on either Monday today or Tuesday tomorrow may have been leaked on purpose because it was meant to frighten the Iranians and

to just giving up. And the press wants to know why they haven't given up. Well, I don't think he appreciates the amount of pressure the Iranians have been under since 1979. I mean, they're old hands at this. It's like, they're like, you know, you know, American presidents come and go, but, you know, dealing with U.S. assholesery is forever. John, thank you so much for joining me again this morning. We will be back tomorrow at 9 a.m. Eastern Time. Tuesday, we're here Monday through Friday at 9 o'clock Eastern Time. Please stay tuned for the TMI show with me and Manila Chan.

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