DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall - Will Trump TACO on Terror Thursday? | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Episode Date: October 14, 2026

Trump privately debates scrapping plans to livestream the firing squad execution of Fort Hood shooter Nidal Hasan after learning the paralyzed gunman relies on a wheelchair. Why didn’t he know? Advisers warn that the grim public images could martyr the terrorist or embolden enemies, even as Trump remains firmly committed to carrying out the death sentence itself.Conflict reporter/writer/cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM ET.Today we also discuss:• Cornell University suspends fraternity parties for the rest of the academic year amid explosive backlash over a 2024 gang rape allegation. President Michael Kotlikoff vows zero tolerance as the Ivy League school scrambles to overhaul its response after local prosecutors initially declined charges.⁠ How will Ivy Leaguers socialize?• Time to move? Scientists say that super-Earths orbiting cooler K-dwarf stars may prove more habitable than Earth itself, with thicker atmospheres, stabler climates, and stronger magnetic shields that could let complex life thrive longer and richer. Garden cress already sprouts faster under simulated K-dwarf light, hinting these distant worlds might host paradise-like biospheres.⁠• Houthis strike an Aramco building in Dhahran hours after Saudi-led forces hit a Sanaa oil facility, igniting a dangerous spiral of threats against Riyadh airport and oil sites. Missiles and drones continue raining on the kingdom as the “Dawn of Yemen” counteroffensive escalates and airlines flee Saudi airspace.⁠• Germany closes Nuremberg Airport and scrambles Eurofighter jets after a Corendon Airlines flight from Corfu transmits a false hijack code “7500” due to a radio malfunction. The plane lands safely under escort, operations resume, and authorities confirm no danger ever existed.⁠ Will AI cause more false alarms?• One year after the Gaza ceasefire, residents remain trapped in tents amid rubble, daily Israeli airstrikes, and almost no reconstruction, saying the war never truly ended. Anger flares at Hamas, Israel, and the world as 65% still live in makeshift shelters.⁠• Germany opens a high-stakes Nord Stream pipeline sabotage trial, charging a Ukrainian ex-officer as an accomplice to a war crime and alleging the plot ran “on behalf of state authorities in Ukraine.” Kyiv fiercely denies involvement while the case threatens to strain Berlin’s support for its ally.⁠00:00 Show Intro and Episode Preview04:30 Trump and the Wheelchair Execution Debate22:05 Cornell Bans Frat Parties After Rape Allegation35:10 The Viral Drunk Candidate Interview Clip43:54 Michigan Race, Said, and Obama’s Influence53:35 Laith Malouf on Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and Gaza01:01:36 The Nord Stream Pipeline Sabotage Trial01:01:52 Super-Earths and Episode Wrap-UpMERCHANDISE: DeProgram.MySpreadShop.comLIVE ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@DeProgramShowLIVE ON RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowhttps://x.com/tedrallhttps://x.com/JamarlThomas#tedrall #jamarlthomas #news #politics

Hey there, this is Deep Program with Ted Raul and Jamarlemus for Wednesday, October 14th, 2026. Thank you so much for joining us. We have a full two-hour show today, so we go all the way from 9 a.m. until 11 a.m. So please like, follow, and share. You know the rest. Here's what we've got for you this morning. We have Donald Trump just found out that the guy he wants to execute on live television on the Internet, is in a wheelchair. We'll talk about that.

He didn't know. And so that's making him reconsider. Because as the New York Times says, he is very concerned about optics. I'm like, okay, how, okay, my question, I'm previewing my question. My question is, if you don't even know something as basic as the fact that the guy was shot in the ass

and is now sitting in a wheelchair since 2009, I don't think you know enough about him to sign off on killing him. That's what I think. If you don't know anything about someone, it's like the, it's like I met this British reporter in Afghanistan. And he was like, you know, if you Americans can't identify three cities in a country, you shouldn't be allowed to bomb it. And I said, we wouldn't be able to bomb anyone. We wouldn't be able to bomb Canada then under those rules. But I still think it's a good rule.

Anyway, we'll get into that. We'll get it to it. We'll do it right after I preview everything here. Also, Cornell has suspended all frat parties. So I know this affects your plans for the rest of the year, Jemaril, and mine. I don't know how I'm going to reschedule my party plans. But that's a hard-hitting Cornell University,

taking rape seriously and rape culture seriously. No frat parties. Sorority, no word on sorority parties. I guess those are go. Still a fair name. That's totally Gaines Gets on. Yeah, maybe they can like rape a dude.

Like, hey, free dick upstairs. Right. And then, okay, so a total Jamaral story that I put in just for you. Scientists say it might be time to move. There are apparently super earths that might be even more habitable than the earth

with thicker atmospheres, better climates, better magnetic shields. So maybe it's time to pack up and go. The Houthis are kicking the Saudi's asses. We'll talk about that. The Houthis are kicking the Saudi's asses six ways till Sunday. Not only is the airport closed, now the oil facilities are under threat in Dharan. Even so, the Saudis think it's a good idea to strike back at Sana. That's not turning out to be true. Also, there was a false alarm, A false hijack code in Germany caused the Nuremberg Airport to get shut down.

And, you know, I have questions about how this bodes about AI and, you know, when you have more and more autonomous systems that are going to be triggering things like this. I mean, Germany almost went to DefCon 4 over this. And one year after the Gaza, quote unquote, ceasefires, scare quotes intentional, residents say that basically nothing's happened. There's been no reconstruction. Israelis are still bombing them every single day. The war never ended. 65% of the population still lives in tents. And last but not least, especially for us,

Germany's Nord Stream 2 Pipeline Sabotage Trial is underway. And we'll talk about that. So a lot to talk about. Oh, oh, oh, and we have a friend of the show, Leith Fidel, political analyst and war correspondent. will be calling in live from Israeli occupied Lebanon. So that's cool. Lake Maroof.

A Maroof, sorry, different late. And he's in Beirut, I believe. Okay, okay, he'll be in Beirut. Okay, thanks for that. Correction. Cool. So, yeah, I mean, the situation in Beirut, I mean in Lebanon, definitely needs to be updated. So that is cool.

Yeah. Looking forward to that for sure. All right. So I guess we want to talk about the executions first, right? Yeah, let's start there. Let's start there. You made the point of saying that if a person doesn't know something about them, that the person shouldn't necessarily be involved in killing the person.

I don't know why the wheelchair would matter. I think it's kind of not racist, but what is the word for? Abelist? Anti-Abalist, yes. I think it's very abelous to say you can't shoot a man in a wheelchair. The wheelchair shouldn't matter. Just to watch him die. Right.

I'm trying to say the wheelchair shouldn't matter. It's very ablest to say that the person shouldn't be able to do this. It's like if it was like a blind guy that, a blind mass murderer would be an event. Right? Right. Like, whoa, you've moved the needle for blind people. I'm saying, you can't.

Yeah, you can't turn around and say, well, we can't shoot the guy because he's in a wheelchair. Just because a man's visually impaired doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to go on a shooting spree at a public school. Right. Right. Right.

If you're going to kill him, you got to kill him. Is what it is. Also, they do know something about him. They know that he killed a bunch of people at the military base. Whether he's in a wheelchair or not, it's secondary to that. It's like saying, well, Hitler kept the trains running.

And it's like, yeah, but the genocide thing matters more. Right? It doesn't matter about the trains. It's the genocide. It's kind of that. Obviously, obviously, you've never waited hours for a train that never came. Fair enough.

I'm just saying the relevant part to this is the number of people that he killed, less about the fact he's in a wheelchair. And if you're going to kill a man, then him being in a wheelchair shouldn't matter. I mean, the Trump... And for the record, he ended up in that wheelchair in the process of killing people, right? Like the cops responded and shot him while he was shooting people.

Yeah. Right. Right. He didn't roll in there and open fire. Do you think they're going to really do this? I mean, again, I'm going to work the same. My answer is beginning to say, like, look, I told Trent to write the headline, like, Will Trump Taco again? It feels like he's going to crap out, right?

I mean, it really seems. And, I mean, to me, look, this raises, it's absurd. The whole thing is outlandish and absurd. And the idea of how they're, like, why did they choose him, doing it live stream? And why does it matter, like you said, that he's in a wheelchair? Because it'll look like, oh, it'll look sad. Well, yeah, it'll look sad because you're killing it, dude. And yes, it will look a little more sad when you're either pulling him out of the wheelchair

to strap him up to a pole or just shooting him in the chair either way. I get the, no, I get the optics. I mean, for sure. But to me, this raises a lot. Ooh. Can you hear me, Ted? Okay, I think Ted is frozen. Or is it be frozen?

I can't tell. To you. I don't know which one of us is frozen. It's you. Yeah. It's you. Okay. Thank you.

There, you're back. But, I mean, I don't see how you can have a president who has the power of life and death over millions of people to be so fucking ignorant and stupid that he doesn't know something as basic as this, you know, in terms of like the status of the, I mean, he wasn't briefed on this guy. He wasn't said, you know, he wasn't told, like. We've got Nadal Hassan. Okay, so this is the story. He killed 13 people. He entered 30 more. Okay, we don't, we know those things.

Okay, it's his job to know those things. It's our job, too. But, I mean, it's really his job to know it. And he's better paid than we are. You know, I mean, it's just, I don't know. It's just, shouldn't he know that? Shouldn't he have known that? Yeah, of course.

I mean, do you think Hakesop threw this out without telling Donald Trump that he was going to execute him? on last street. Thank you. That's the question. That is exactly the most important. I mean, seriously, like the outlandishness of it is, is hilarious, and we can make jokes about it all day long. But the, no, I mean, I think that's the interesting thing. I think what we're witnessing here is an administrative style that reminds me of when you, when you read about Hitler's administration style, take Hitler's, you know, politics out of it. Hitler was kind of a lazy guy, and he didn't really, he wasn't a good administrator. He slept late.

stayed up until three in the morning and often wouldn't drag his bed out of bed until 11 in the morning and he was he know he had the he had the lifestyle of like an artist basically um and one of the things one of the ways that he kind of dealt with that is he created a lead a management style called like you know working toward the furor so in other words he encouraged everybody under his administration to compete against each other for his favor like you guys come up with the ideas. You know what I'm into. You know my bag. You know my jam. You do your thing. And like, you know, probably it'll be okay because, you know, we know each other. And if you're wrong in the middle of the night, I'll drag you out of bed from your gay lover and shoot you,

you know, in the night of the long knives. But if I'm right, it'll be fine until it's not, right? And it was called, they called it in Germany, working your way toward the furor. And I think that's what Hengseth did here. I think Higseth didn't check in with anyone. You know, Trump is basically lazy. He doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, you know, want to know all the details. He's not a micromanager like Jimmy Carter or Lyndon Johnson. He's like one of those guys like, just fucking do it.

You know, I'm busy with executive time right now in the Oval Office. I don't have any. You just do it. And then it's like, wait, you did what? You know, we've had that boss, right? You have carte blanche. wait you what so i mean you know card blanche is card blanche car blanche is really truly do whatever you want um and you know when bosses say that they don't really mean it they expect you to read their mind

and i think you know the problem with heggseth is he's not really a bright guy and so you know i can't imagine i mean if i had if i were buddies with hegsetth i would have been like come on pete like you know trump it's it's all about optics he's not going to like the wheelchair thing. I've mentioned the wheelchair thing here a bunch of times, right? I was like, that's a big component of it, because it's all about optics. You're going to shoot a dude for the first time in public,

right, on the internet. The first time in 90 years. And last time, it went really badly in Kentucky, when you guys basically legally lynched a black dude, and the guy who hung him was drunk. And it was so bad that even without the internet, the newspaper guys, like, wrote

up how embarrassing it was. And they didn't do anymore. So yeah, you've got to be, and you just had this, you know, fiasco in Tennessee that was only wasn't on the internet, but it was witnessed by enough people to make it a disaster. I mean, you know, I mean, I think little Petey just basically, he went off, he, he didn't think it through. It went broke. I think the odds are Trump is going to taco on this. I mean, I don't seem by Trump, I mean, it didn't seem like Trump do. I mean, because when he asked him, he was like, I don't know. And he's been getting

a lot of shit for this, by the way. Apparently a bunch of the public like, this is barbaric. We should kill him, but I don't want to see it. And my thing's like, why don't you want to see it? Like, why are we doing this to chat? You and I are on the same page. We've always wanted to, we believe this should be,

this should be public. It should be live streamed. We're going to kill people and it's going to be done by the state. Yeah. Kill the guy in his wheelchair. Kill the guy on his wheelchair. On live on live stream. This is the death penalty.

And honestly, it will be done during the day, according to Little Pete. It's going to be at the same time, 1 o'clock in the afternoon as the for a hood shooting, same day of the week. Oh, the symbolism is so resonant. All this is dramatic, theatrical. So gay. Now I'm gay Pete. It's so gay. And it's like, yeah, it's like so, all right, I mean, maybe Pete should lead the firing squad himself.

I think that would be good. I assume he knows how to shoot a gun. Yeah, totally cool. You know, and they should, I think it should be, you know, it should be, it should be all school kids should have to watch it down, you know, pre-K, you know, head start program, everybody. Everybody's got to watch it. I don't know how you force people to watch it. I just put it on. They can close their eyes. They want. You get an, you get an F in that day, in that day's class, if you don't, if you keep your eyes closed. They have a sensitive.

That is a medieval shit tape. Wait, kids. Especially on bare sarcastic, right? I mean, obviously. I mean, but the thing is, it's, it's fucking ludicrous. I mean, just this whole like, wait, I didn't know. Yeah, that's just, that's what? What do you mean you didn't know?

How do you not consult the president when you're saying we're going to execute somebody live on TV? And it's a very dramatic, theatrical way. Yeah, like, like, like, like, like, worse. Like, Mr. President, I have an idea. Like at the cabinet meeting, oh, by the way, I need to ask you about something. I mean, I would have only taken like 30 seconds. Like, hey, so what do you think? And wait, is this on YouTube?

Or is this just, when he said last stream? He's talking about like C-SPAN or something. Well, he said live-streamed, so I don't know if it would be. It seems like it would, you and I have had enough problems with YouTube that seems like it might have to be rumble only. Right. Right. Or it's like, is it some special, oh, they might have a special government, like, you know,

Execution.Army.mill, like, streaming website. I hope it doesn't crash the way that the healthcare website crash. This is so... What if they fuck up? You know, there was some firing squad thing. I think it was in South Carolina, like a year ago, where all the marksmen missed. And then they had to go for a second round.

Yeah. That's wild. So the guy was alive for like another like minute and a half, two minutes. Oh shit. Oh shit, he's still moving. Shoot him again. Oh, that sucks. Yeah.

That sucks. You would think that these guys will be better than that. And maybe it's just the fact that they're taking a life. Like maybe this is hard to do. Shooting people is hard. I mean, I heard an interesting conversation on the radio where about the death penalty in general. It was about the Krista Pike fiasco. And they talked about this, and one of the questions came in from a listener, which was, how come we're able to eat euthanized pets like

no must, no fuss every day? And how come it's so hard to kill people? And the answer was great. The answer was, you don't really know what your cat or your dog is going through when they're Lethally injected. The truth is that it probably is horrible for them. And I was like, yeah, that makes sense. I mean, mammals, right? I mean, mammals are hard. Mammals die hard unless you chop up their head or whatever. Well, no, there's a difference. The drugs that they're giving them are not drugs to kill people. They're drugs that these guys are kind of concocted because they can't get the drugs from the industry. Meaning when they're euthanizing an animal, they're actually using the drugs that put the animal to sleep. to stop that type of thing. I mean, animal, first.

In this case, I don't know what the hell they're using. I don't think they're using the same things. No, I think they, well, I think that the, it's a three drug protocol. And like with animals, they put them to sleep. Yeah, they knock them unconscious first, and then they stop their heart, right? But I think the point is that like,

they might be screaming inside when their, when their heart stops. But like, we don't, we're not going to know because, you know, I don't want to think that. It's a cat or dog. I've had to put a dog asleep. I had to put a cat asleep. And Bow was extremely sick. Like, he was extremely ill.

And that was one of the most painful things in my life. Like, it is a thing to put an animal down. Vets say that you should absolutely do it, be in there with them when you do it, because they're looking around scared. And people never want to see it. And he said, it's like they're always looking for their owner. And that's the most important thing is that they,

you know, if you have to do that to your pet, you should be there with. them yeah I mean they have to go through it it's the least you can do is go through it with them it's true no I think you're right I wasn't that strong enough to do that and it didn't want my wife in there either I wasn't strong enough to do it with my cat but next time when I have to do it to my cat if I have to do it to my cat I would definitely be there for him no I think you're right but that's hard I had never heard that from that before yeah you know it's hard it's no fun I mean you know

No, I hear that completely. Cats are different. No, I'm teasing. I'm joking. My mom hates cats. She's terrified. She's terrified of them. I have no idea why.

There are a lot of people who, yeah. I had a roommate who was, he hated them. He was scared of them. They're so small. There's not much they can do, really. Right. Well, they can, they do. They can claw you.

They can claw you, but I mean, honestly, A cat can't kill you, okay? I mean, really. A dog can take you out in a fair fight. True. Depending on its size. No, I don't hate cats. I'm not with cats.

I've gotten to like dogs. But F.E.S.O. says, just give the man the electric wheelchair execution. And Alexander says Clovis is immortal. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. And Ph. Nick Rivera says we both tacoed out, true. that is true.

Oh, you don't think he's going to taco out. You don't think he's going to do it. No, we tacoed out, like on our pets. Oh, yeah, we taco out. Yeah, we talked. By the way, Trump's going to taco out. I don't think he, by the way, I don't think he should. For the, I mean, personally, I think it should be in public.

But also, you know, I really want America to expose itself as this horrible, outlandish, brutally violent, psychotic country. I really want that. I feel like it's important for us in our psychological development and for our relationship with the world and that people stop taking it seriously. I really want that. First and foremost, when you go to AA, I am an alcoholic. I have no power. First step is admitting you have a problem, right? You admit you have a problem.

And the Lord knows that admits you have a problem because that is one of the more. We're addicted to violence, man. The world that these guys are talking about. Heck Seth is thinking like, we want to show the world how strong we are. And it's like, that's not the message you're sending. No. The message is that you're fucking crazy and stupid. Yes.

Yes. And racist. And fucking racist. It's outlandish. Like, so that's why I want it. So I don't want people to be. I'm dying for it. Well, my thing is.

And if I'm an adult, you know, they're also concerned about turning him into a martyr. I think that's like a lesser concern. Although, frankly, if I were him, I'd rather die this way than just be put down like a dog them in private yeah yeah yeah I suppose I mean people would ask why did they kill him which inevitably brings up the reason why he did what he did which yeah you know they may say he's a Muslim extremist yeah but how did he get that way like what radicalized them talking right right they missed that part um but no I I want it for the same reason you want it it's not just because I want to see an execution I don't even know if I why

watch it. It's most of the both. I want that shit to be exposed. I'd watch it because it's news. And, you know, look, I watch the ISIS videos. If I can watch that, I can watch anything. I've seen people die in Afghanistan. I mean, it's like the way I look at it is he has to go through it. I can watch it. You know, if that makes sense. Yeah. Let's see if we have any comments. So today, unfortunately, producer Robbie West is out, which means I'm, you're reduced to dealing with me and my ability to scroll through the headlines here. But, yeah, so when it's like this, seriously, this is very self-serving, but it's much the page comments stick out, and I'm just definitely going to look

at those faster. Yeah, they're easier to see. It's really true. Anyway, please, oh, by the way, the list of subscribers is increasing. Thank you guys very much for doing that. the updated outro with the new subscribers as well as the old ones is now up you'll see that at the end of the show at 1059 or whatever so thank you very much for that appreciate you guys and I'll put the information up for how to subscribe on YouTube anyway all right so what do you do we I think we can move on from this right

all right shall we follow up yesterday's topic about Cornell University that we talked about with Michael Tracy. So Cornell has decided that admits the explosive backlash over their handling or lack of handling of the 2024 gang rape allegation at the frat.

Cornell has taken the bold and decisive measure of taking a cue from that important film from the late 70s Animal House and they have decided to cancel all for frat parties

for the rest of this year. Just to be clear, that happened in 2024. Right, that's true. And they've had fret parties for the last two years. Right. But sorority parties are go. Other parties are go. I mean, just to be clear here, I mean, you know, like, well, what, what am I on about?

What I'm on about is that frats are toxic. So are sororities. Greek life should be banned. Secret societies should be banned. Single-sex environments that are bathed in secrecy where you're all kind of like in this sort of homoerotically bonded network of people who swear to keep secrets and have hazing rituals that often are sexual in nature. It's naturally going to lead to shit like this, you know?

And so I just think it's like, you know, it's the environment that causes this. I don't think there's any place for secret societies in the United States or in colleges and universities. Secret societies are bad. I mean, look at the KKK. That was a secret society. No more. So people can't choose to collectively come together to be in a group directed in the way that they want to direct. Because I would argue religion is a secret society of sorts.

People go into a church. It's not secret. Anybody can join. Anybody can walk into religious services, right? Any, any, I mean, I can't, I don't think there's any. No, no, I accept that. Maybe Scientology is different, right? I mean, I don't know.

No, I accept that. But you don't believe that people can come together and join in something that is collective to their own interests. So, for example, people wanted to have swingers. Okay, they have a group of people come together to do and pursue carnal delight or whatever. But they don't let everybody into the group. the group is isolated, would that be considered a secret group? It's a good question.

I guess the ultimate question is, why can't people come together and make a decision about stuff that they may be interested in? I'm going to roll that back. You're right. Okay, they can. I'm wrong about that. I just think colleges and universities, though, we have a long track record of fraternities. And, you know, look, there's been fault allegations. We, you know, there was the Virginia tech thing. you know was it Virginia Tech or you know UVA you VA I think it's one of them yeah one of those Virginia schools anyway where it was like the I forget what team it was um polo or some shit anyway the point is these guys were they were falsely accused there was a false accusation of gang rape at Columbia University um in the mid in the late 80s um it it happens but there's also legit ones right I don't know it's just like

It seems to me like from a college administrator's point of view, frats are a lot of trouble. And it's like, you know, and I'm not sure what they benefit. I mean, except like what? You're going to give each other jobs when you all get older. And it just, it's... Why does it have to have a benefit? Meaning it's just people deciding to come together to join a particular group for whatever reason. I find it to be dumb, but it doesn't really matter if I find it to be dumb.

It's just what they want to do. they think they get something out of it, whether it's fraternity, whether it's brotherhood, whether it's, hey, these are my friends and my fret. I think it's silly, but it's not, it doesn't really matter if I think it's silly. The catch becomes, why shouldn't people be able to do that? I mean, look, there are all sorts of things where people get into trouble with driving, for God's sake. How many accidents do. Oh, right, it's the Duke lacrosse case. Thank you. Yeah. Daniel and P.W. Walker. North Carolina. Look, I guess my point is pretty much anything that we do. Catholic Church, the number of kids that were effectively raped at the Catholic

Church, horrendous, and yet it still exists. And so it's like every few years, a fret shows up with either a fake rape allegation or real rape allegation, well, I guess allegations. You get my point. Yeah. That's going to happen in general. Like just being in society, rape. I don't know how many gang. Okay, rapes, sure. Rape is an incredibly common crime. But gang rapes, that's not such a common crime.

No, it's not such a common crime, but it does happen. And I guess, look, my argument is not entirely for threats, even though I guess it sounds like it is. It's trying to make the point of saying people have a shit. Freedom of association. Yeah. If they want to come together for some kind of group, for some kind of ends, they can do so. And yeah, it's frats are toxic.

I accept that. I've never been in a fret. So if somebody is out there saying, Hey, I mean, come on, you know how it is. You meet frat bros and, you know, they're douchebags. To enjoy it.

I was offered, I was offered to be involved in a gang bang by a guy who was in a frat. I thought it was gross. Right. Right. But again, you guys want to be right. Yeah, even assuming, even assuming totally.

consent, right? Right. It's like, who's number six? It's like, yeah. But if that's your life, do you, right? Right. And in college, if that's what you want to experience, do you, providing everybody's willing for the thing?

I guess my thing is part of, yes, it will be part of a risk of having a fret in existence or having a sorority in existence, even though I don't know what that would look like. But that's not necessarily an argument that they should be removed, destroyed. I don't know. I'm not the extreme with it. People can have... I mean, these same colleges got rid of Jewish voice for peace.

You know what I mean? I mean, it's like Jewish voice for peace. You got rid of a peace group by and for Jews against killing Palestinians. You got rid of that. You're like, we don't have any place for that. Now, that's dangerous. That's shit, you know, we can't have... that. But we got to have our frats. We got to have that.

Right. I mean, just so much that you can live together and and, you know, and drinking the sweet smell of dirty socks and testosterone. I know, but they apparently like that nonsense.

Like, in their minds, it may make them think, hey, I'm more of a man. I am somehow connected. I'm somehow, whatever their feelings are about. It just... And it's a professional connections for the future. Yes. But I agree with these secrets. Like, hey, I'm a beta theta pie dude from way back. Oh, me too. Yeah. You want a job, man.

Yeah. It was, and the thing is to be clear, I mean, there's a cliche that this is like all, it's all, you know, white bros. And that's most of it for sure. But, you know, it's not exclusive. I mean, there's a, there's a Jewish frat at Columbia. I don't know if it still exists, But, you know, there's the Jack and Jill Society, which is for, you know, upscale professional blacks. I happened upon one of their gatherings at Martha's Vineyard once. And, you know, you see, like, wow, there's like all these people driving these, like, incredibly nice cars. And they're all dressed to the nines. And it's like, what's going on?

It's like, oh, it's Jack and Jill. And it's like, wait, what's that? And I remember thinking, like, you know, it's, in the one hand, I was like, I get. But on the other hand, it seems really snotty. Like, you know, us rich black people, we don't. want to mix with anyone else. I don't know. I hate that kind of shit. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. People are people. They form into groups and collectives. I know. Look, I got to be honest, I never understood threats. I never understood white people wanted to subject themselves to the things

they subject themselves to in order to get into the threats. It just never made sense to me. But I knew people were friends. Many of them were very cool. Sure. Yeah, I don't know. But I wouldn't, my first impetus wouldn't be to get rid of it. And by the way, Cornell already suspended the frat that was involved, right? This does bring up the issue of collective punishment. I mean, the other frats are like, hey, we don't have any any ladies who've charged us with gang rape, right? Like we had nice, civilized, drunken parties with a minimum of ketamine and a minimum of rape. And like just the bare acceptable amount of rape. And like, and also you already closed the frat involved here, right?

Right. It's, that building's been closed for two years. And it's been two years. Yeah, it's been two years. They've been having frats for two years doing what frats do for two years. And now you're shutting it down. Okay. As far as we know, there's been no subsequent.

gang rape allegations and any other frat at Cornell. I mean, so like, why? This is all just, it's ridiculous, you know, middle management, you know, typical college cowardly college administrators like, oh my God, like, oh, there's a not, do you see, there's a, you know, they get these administrators, they get like a stapled summary of all the media coverage about their institutions, right? Like if I worked at a bank where it was like that. And it's like every, you know, someone would look for every mention of the industrial

Bank of Japan and in every, you know, news outlet. And then we get it every morning and be like, oh, shit. Like that, they found out about that guy who embezzled $10 million. Oh, fuck. Should we do something about it? That's what they're like, right? So they're like, oh, fuck, we're still getting our, we're getting hammered in the press over this, over this rape thing. We got to do, we got to be perceived as, we don't need to do anything. We need to be perceived as doing something. Right. Yeah. Because we can't do anything about it. We can't stop people from we can eliminate every frat you're not going to eliminate rape you're not going to eliminate you know illegal drug use you're not going to eliminate people you know slipping

mickeys into people's drinks that that behavior will go on i mean so all you can do is be perceived like look we we did something you know yeah so when your alum's call and say what the fuck why am i donating millions of dollars to you you can say something yeah i mean they want to be perceived this being strong on the issue Right, as opposed, like, but I know, strength is not always the best response. I know why. It's because they want to be able to defend, you know, our actions. We did this in order to deal with this particular issue.

But is there a better way to do that? I mean, the threats have been going on for the last two years. And what is he trying to say that they're rape factories and rape factories have been going on for two years? And so now we're taking a stand two years later. That just feels dumb. And you're punishing, as you point out, everybody for something that, specific group ultimately did. Yeah, that's wrong.

That's weird. Yeah, that's not right. So, unless they're trying to make the argument that all frats are problematic, based on the gang rape at one fret, this seems to be a weird argument to make. And we know that's not true, right? Like certain frats at every school, right, there's always that one frat that's really wild and crazy and has that, they're the animal house rat. And then there's the other boring ones, right?

I mean, there's the ones that are more dominated by, like, engineering students who are, like, grinds, and they spend all their time at the library. I mean, each frat has its own culture. Yeah, they're different. So, no, I agree. It's just, yeah, that sucks for the frets. Yeah. But don't worry, gang rapists. There's always the sorority parties.

It's like a poor woman gang rape guy. It's like, geez. It's just such a hilarious, it's such a hilarious headline, though. Like, all frat parties are off. It's like, really, this is national news. National news. Okay, well. All right.

We're trying to, let's leave the Middle East for Lave. All right, what do you want to talk about? We should do Nord Stream. Oh, by the way, did you see, oh, dude, this is the funniest thing in the world. Did you see that woman, I think she was running for Texas? that clip where she's she seems to be completely drunk

like it completely inebriated a Democrat Oh can we can we find it if we find it if you find it out Yeah I have it right Yeah Send me the link and then I'll put it up Okay this

I don't even I don't know who this word is Maybe you know who this woman is But she is apparently running I think she's running in Texas Um and this will make your day. All right. So it is, I just pasted it. It's there down. Okay. All right.

All right. Now, just for this setup, she's in an interview. And in this interview, she's talking to a newswoman, and the newswoman is basically ask her questions related to the campaign. This is the clip. Okay, here we go. I'm pulling this up. that. It always helps to have a producer. Yeah, this is like people

who are like don't appreciate Robbie. Let me just say this is like, well, now you appreciate Robb. Yeah, you got to appreciate Robbie.

Okay, here we go. Yeah, we need him. All right. Hold on. All right, let me have it queued up.

And then I'm going to put it up. Okay. Bump, I played this earlier and was laughing my ass Oh, good. I can always use a good laugh, although we've already had some good laughs.

All right, here we go. All right. All right. We ready? Yeah. Here we go. And that's what I have to say about that. Okay. And our last question of the night is, if elected, what is one decision that you expect to make that may be unpopular with some voters, but you believe ultimately would be in the best interest of Fayette County? I wouldn't raise your taxes. what is the one decision that I would make repeat that again what is the one decision that I would make that might not be popular

right that may be unpopular with some voters but is in the best interest of the county firing all Republicans I wouldn't let them I mean I don't even talk to them I don't like them I mean, they voted against our stone state representative voted against her own party. I mean, what do you want me to say? I don't like being around them.

I mean, y'all did this to us. You all voted for us. You made this happen, this ice coming into our communities, stealing people's jobs. I mean, I've been threatened so many times to my face. by MAGA, we'll call them, because there's Republicans who actually get it, you know, there are good Republicans out there. They didn't know if there's MAGA. They bought me some drinks.

Who were just racist. And aren't very intelligent at all. They call you names. It's my, you don't share nephew, trying to blow my head off. But, you know, What are you going to do? Well, that brings us to your opportunity to say just a few last words to the voters. Only a few last words.

We have guns, too. Oh! All right. The general election is November 3rd. Early voting began October 6th. You can vote Monday through Friday from 8.30 a.m. to 4 p.m. at the Fittitt County Courthouse. Remember to bring to the courthouse with you. when voting and acceptable government issues.

Yeah, that happened on air. We have guns. Well, she was obviously impaired, right, in some way. I mean, so she's drunk or she's stunned or maybe, you know, I mean, there are people who get like, okay, I'm going to say, there are, to be fair, people who get, like, adverse reactions to medicines. You know, like, they have a cold medicine interacts with something else. Ambien was so rough at 12 a new.

Yeah, don't forget George H.W. Bush when he puked on the Japanese prime minister. Oh, that's gross. Yeah. And he blamed, I forget what he blamed, but he blamed a drug that he was on. Probably true. I mean, travel makes your stomach do funky things, right? I mean, her campaign can release a statement saying that she was on Benadryl or something like that. That's what they said about Joe Biden, right, at the debate. Well, he was on, you know, medication. Yeah, he had a cold. He had a cold.

For about five years, he had a cold. That is insane. That is insane. That's America. By the way, she's got my vote. If I lived in her district, I would totally vote for her. I love her to death. She's the best.

She's so cool. She's like, they might blow her head off. Whatever. What do you do? What do you do? Fight her all the Republicans. She said, I would fight all the Republicans. because she said, I don't like them.

I don't even talk to them. You know what's so funny is she probably has no, she probably didn't really know until later. I mean, like, so one time, I had to give a speech at the editorial cartoonist's convention. And these conventions always have a lot of hardcore drinking. And I went to, you know, I just didn't have much to eat that day. I didn't even drink much.

I had like, there was an open bar before. And two glasses of wine, I can hold my liquor, usually. Or at least I think I can't. I mean, that's for others to judge. Anyway, the point is I had like a couple of glasses of wine on an empty stomach, went up and gave my speech. And, you know, my friend Scott Stantis with who I do DMZ America was in the audience. And afterwards, he's like, Jesus Christ, Ted.

And I was like, I don't know if I can feel my lips. And he goes, he goes here so smashed visibly. I'm like, really? Can other people tell? He's like, yeah. I do remember holding on to the podium to keep from falling down. And it was just like, well, and honestly, I told myself, well, who gives a shit? It's a bunch of cartoonists anyway, right?

It doesn't matter. And it wasn't on television or anything like that. But, I mean, I feel for this woman, because, you know, I've been there. I mean, I have to admit, I would show up fully caffeinated and not boozed up for something like this. but, you know, it can happen to the best of us. I don't, I don't, yeah, I don't see myself, especially if you're trying to get elected for something, getting hammered and then going into the event.

I don't know, man, that seems insane to me. You're running for office, and people are watching you give an interview. How do you, okay, I don't know if she was smashed, like, on alcohol, but she's obviously on something. She's something's going on, right? Unless she's always like that. She might be like, you know, the dude in the big Lobowski. Like, hey, man.

You know, he's always smashed. So that's a bad example. So I will repeat the, I will repeal the two drink minimum log. P.W. Walker. You don't have to worry about that. Yeah. Don't knock Ms. West. She still sounds more coherent than Federman.

That's true. And she's only running for some shitty local office. He's a U.S. Senator from a major state. By the way, they're talking about Lindsey Graham's sister. I'm sorry. Is it sister? Sister? Yeah, it's his sister.

Yeah. I don't know necessarily what she has, that she's pulled, that allowed her to necessarily be eligible for office. But she may lose. Lindsay Graham had that seat forever. Well, she's incredibly incompetent. Yeah, I mean, I think she might lose. It's interesting.

I mean, we may see some surprises. It's not going to be as straightforward Democrats rule Republicans lose. I mean, that's going to be the overall tenor of election night. But it's going to be, I think there's going to be some surprises. Like, like, Said's not doing that great in Michigan. Really? Yeah, yeah. It's like, I mean, he's, I'd say if the election were held right now, he might lose.

I'm very annoyed with black people on this. Because of the whole Michigan demographic. Yeah. It's so weird to me. Like, as... Well, he has an ace in the whole in that respect. Obama's coming. I think it's October 27th.

Yeah. That's I think that's a game changer for Sayy. You know? I think Obama is still a nuclear weapon in regards to Democrats. Obama comes in. He's clearly, you know, still a power broker in the Democratic Party. Oh, I mean, yeah, that's that's, that's, that's, He's got to be good for eight to ten points.

I mean, just by parachuting in. Yeah. I mean, because I hate this idea that somehow him being Muslim is somehow different than the experience that black people go through. Right. These are the... And Democrats do this, and they do this all the time. And it's bad politics.

They create this division between people. Okay, you're Hispanic, you're black, you're this, you're this. As if these things are somehow, somehow, distinct in regards to their experience. It's like, oh, you're a black, African, or you're a Caribbean black. That's not the same as a descendant of slaves black. You guys are different. Well, I mean, I do think descendants of slaves are black.

They're different. Of course, there's differences. But yeah, but political interests are not necessarily different. Yeah, the political interests are the same for all of these groups. Like the experience of a Hispanic, the experience of an African American. Okay, they may have like... When the cop pulls you over at two in the morning, you know, they're not making those distinctions. No.

What matters is the economics of it all. And if somebody is talking about, look, I'm going to put more money in your pocket. We're going to stop sending money into genocidal maniacs. If you think he's sincere, then maybe you should back that guy, regardless of his rights. Like, it doesn't matter that Sanders is Jewish. It doesn't matter that some random person is Hispanic or somebody else's trans. Are they going to represent the interests of the public? Right.

It doesn't matter that Ted Kennedy was wealthy. Exactly. Well, FDR was wealthy. Right? Right. Like if they were represent your interests, they represent your interests. It's that. And so I hate the idea that they're looking at him like he's somehow, somehow different.

Oh, he's not, you know, part of that experience. Okay, does he need to be part of your specific experience? Is he doing what you're sending him to Washington to do? But is it about that tomorrow or is it about, I mean, you know, I mean, look, obviously, you know, I'm not, I'm obviously white. But I mean, from what I hear, and, you know, what I read, this is mostly a quite, you know, conservative older black, small C conservative, you know, older blacks, like Democrats. They're worried, right? They're like kind of like, we don't want to waste our votes. We don't want to vote for some clown and then get burned and

have them lose. We want our best possible chance at winning. Yeah, but that attitude ensures that that happens. Yeah, plus you're in the general now. He's the Democrat, right? He's the Democrat. rat. Right. So it's like if you're looking at the like, yeah, I don't want to vote for that guy because the guy is doing so on so. You are ensuring what you are, um, afraid of. Like, I hate the stuff, right? Like, like the system that we have at our disposal is basically, um, because blacks do as a rule, uh, keep the monster at bay. Which candidate keeps the monster at bay. Now that makes sense to the primary, which is how they fucked over, which is how Bernie got in the general, which will make me think, okay, the black vote that might have been skeptical of him before. Okay, why would you be skeptical of him now as he's the Democratic nominee? But apparently that skepticism still exists, which is wild to me. Yeah. Yeah. It's not. It's like, look, there's one thing if you say, I don't believe in a political system that I don't think we can get there through voting, meaning we can't get what we want from here. I get that. But to say, you're a part of this political system. You vote.

in this political system. And yet you don't want, say, eat because of some hashtag reason. That's a little weird to me. Like if you're a Democrat looks like you're a political. I also kind of, I mean, I guess this thing is, I would hope for some generosity of spirit on the part of some older black voters in Michigan

that they would sort of say in the same way that a lot of white people said in 2008, like, you know, let's let the black guy drive the car for a while. You know, everyone else has had their chance. And like maybe let's let the younger, you know, Let's let the younger Muslim dude try, have a shot out. You know, why not? You know, so let's see how it goes.

Yeah, I mean, him being Muslim shouldn't matter. Is there a shared experience among the people in the state that he's going to represent? It's just that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't think he's, I mean, I will say, tonally, I don't think he's the perfect candidate. I mean, nobody's really a perfect, well, Obama was a perfect candidate. There are perfect candidates sometimes. Yeah.

Trump was a perfect candidate. candidate in 2016. I mean, but I think, you know, Sayy, there's something, you know, he's not likable somehow. I mean, he's got that Hillary Clinton thing where he's annoying. That's not a good thing to have. I mean, do you feel it? I mean, it's completely, look, it's just, that's just me seek. I mean, I don't know if anyone else sees it. Well, I saw him when he got pissy with the reporter. And so that linger. So I don't know what he is in earnest, but that image lingers, right? But yeah, I don't put it this way. I don't want them shortchanging him just because he's

Muslim or just because he's, you know, whatever. If you don't like him. And I don't really care that he's, I mean, I'd still vote for him if I lived in Michigan, even though I think he's a little, you know, broie and spicy. But okay, whatever. Yeah. But yeah, yeah, when Obama lives, I suppose we need to looking to polling after it because I'll be interested in whatever that shift is because that shift will take place. I think that's literally going to make her break him. Without Obama visiting, I think he loses. And by the way, he gets shit for that. Like for him campaigning with Kamala Harris or him campaigning with Obama. I mean, for one, I don't know if Kamala Harris is running again. I know you don't think she is. I think there's a chance that she may. Oh, there's a chance.

It's definitely, I just don't think it's 50% or better. Should they have given him shit for campaigning with them too. Because their thing is, okay, you criticized Obama on his policies when he was in office. And Kamala Harris was supporting a genocide. How were you in campaigning with these people?

That's the argument that's used against the matter left. It's a legitimate argument. I mean, Barack Obama expanded the drone wars. He expanded the Iraq and the Afghanistan wars. He oversaw the Maidan coup.

you know, there's a lot of stuff that he has to answer for, for sure. Obama's terrible. Agreed. Yeah. I mean, I wrote an entire book about it called The Book of Obama, about just basically, the entire book is basically like Obama sucks and you don't think he does, but he does. And, but I get that. But he's trying to get elected, right?

Like you can say, you're selling your soul. If I were advising, I might be like, man, you need, I mean, I said this. I wrote about when I did my syndicated column about Saeed a few months ago. I said he's got to get, you know, the Democrats have to get serious and they have to get behind him. And they have, and I was like, first and foremost, they need Obama. I mean, the main thing about Kamala was, I mean, come on, it's like it's profit and loss. What is the advantage of having Kamala? I mean, except for the fact that she's a woman of color, she brings nothing to the table.

I mean, she was, she lost. She doesn't have any charisma. People talk about annoying. People find her annoying. You know, she sent, she sent, you know, black people. to death row in California, I mean, including innocent ones. I mean, fuck her. I mean, I just don't know what she brings to the table if you're trying to get

someone to Kim as a surrogate, but we all know what Obama brings to the table. Yeah, but the problem is they may be a packaged deal. Say he may not be able to be like, I don't want her. I want him. Like, it may not necessarily be the thing where he could just pick him. One from column A, not one from column B. No, I don't know if he could do that. And if he did do that, I don't know if he would get Obama.

Like meaning if you're, if you're a Democrat, you're Democrat. Kamala Harris has not been excluded from the Democratic Party. So if he's like, hey, I'll come to your event, he might be like, okay. And Obama says, hey, I'll come to your event. Yes, thank you. Good. Oh, I mean, I would say like, look, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're saying and you can get Obama, but you also have to have Jack the Ripper, that's fine. You know what I mean? It's like, I would be like, whatever. He need, he needed Obama. He needed, he

He needs Obama to show up. Yeah. He needs Obama not to have a cold or the flu. He needs Obama to show up on time early. I mean, that's what he needs in this case. Yeah. It will move the needle, I think. Yeah, it'll really seriously.

He'll owe Obama in a big way. No question. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So I see Leith Maroof in the green room. So, Lath, if you would be so kind as to turn on your camera and your, and your mic. You'll see underneath your name.

There you go. All right, cool. Should we go ahead and bring them in? Sure. Okay. We are joined with the one that only Laith Marouf on Free Palestine TV. How are you doing, Leith? You doing okay today? Doing good.

Doing good. It's my first time on this Rumble platform. I'm actually impressed. I didn't think that it would be this well-organized. And I'm glad to be on your new show, guys. Thank you. I've been with Jamar many times before, but it's good to see that you guys are doing other work. So it's great.

We're trying to kick ass. But no, man, you're going to be. And by the way, let people know where you are. Free Palestine TV is the network. I want to make sure I get this right. And Free Palestine, that video is where they can find your work online. But I want to give you space to tell them. they can find your work. Yes, yes. And thank you so much for letting me bring it up because

we just got a strike on YouTube. We've been under like a sustained, organized Zionist attack of trying to report everything on the channel. And it's really awkward because we just got this strike, not because of a content that we produced, but a short from an interview that Carl Zah conducted with me. What? Yes. And so the channel, Carl Zah's channel, and the full interview is still up there, but this clip that we put, and it doesn't have anything.

It's just talking about, you know, my usual speech that I talk about what has happened in the last three years as a result of the war on Gaza, the genocide there. and now we're unable to upload for the next two weeks. It was a 90-day penalty, but somehow they just changed it by themselves to 15 days. So I think maybe the pressure is working. I hope more people complain to YouTube about it so we can get our channel back. And we are 100% dependent on the donations of our viewers. even with the monetization we had on YouTube,

they were not giving us more than $1.50 per of the documentaries that we're posting every day. They're really robbing us of any possible money from YouTube. So donations are appreciated so we can continue our content production, FreePalestine.com. That video is the website where people can do that. Yeah, that sucks. They did it to Caleb also, where they took his entire channel down.

And then, like, a couple of days later, later, it's like, oh, by the way, we got this wrong. Here's your channel back. It's like, what? How do you get something like that wrong? Late, I was watching last night, Saudi Arabia is getting hit over and over and over again. Ansarla has basically made the point of saying that there's a blockade on Saudi airports, which many airplanes or many airport companies are effectively honoring because

Riyadh's airports. I forget there was another airport last night that got hit. On top of that hit, Saudi Aramco. down with ballistic missiles. Give us a breakdown of what is effectively taking place currently in the context of the war with Yemen and Saudi Arabia. And there's something else I want to ask you about this, but this is the question I want to get first.

Yeah, well, obviously the Saud regime is being pulled by a leash to conduct this war against Yemen. The Zionists and the Americans are getting them to commit public suicide, it seems like, on their behalf. You know, the Saudis hit the oil facilities outside Sana'a, but they were empty, because every oil facility that is under the control of Sana' government has been hit million times over the last 15 years. So the Yemeni government has created underground facilities to protect its reserves.

and the Saudis are unable to reach those. And so it was just a really clear, stupid thing for the Saudis to do to attack the oil facilities outside Sana'a, because that opened the door for the government of Sana'a to retaliate in kind. And the Saudi oil reserves are not destroyed already. They're not underground. And when you think about the effect of

Iran's war, the war, a 40-day war on Iran, where Iran destroyed much of the air defenses in the Arabian Peninsula, much of the satellite receiving information centers and the radars and so on. It's clear that the Saudi assets are less protected than they were during the before the war on Iran. So why would you take such a stupid decision? the only answer is that the government of Saudi Arabia are vassals, complete vassals that have no control of their own decisions. Lath, if you could maybe comment a little bit on what the future of the Saudi oil industry looks like, that would be great. Because, I mean, it really seems like the Saudis are out of options, right? I mean, you know, Ansar al-a-a-a-Qaari, aka the Houthis, control the Gulf of Aden. The Strait of Hormuz is controlled by Iran.

There's no way to – the pipeline has been under attack multiple times, and basically the Houthis have been clear about, like, we're going to keep – we'll let you repair it, and then we'll hit it again. So, you know, Saudi Arabia was once the world's largest oil exports. nation and still obviously a very important one. Are they going to basically, are there exports going to slow to a trickle? I mean, you already have oil prices around the world and the United States critically skyrocketing. Diesel prices are way up. Truckers are stopping, are starting to not roll their trucks anymore because it's not worth it.

I mean, what options did the Saudis have at this point besides making peace? You know, the CEO of Aramco in a conference two days ago informed the world that the last defensive line of the Saudi oil industry, which is their land-based reserves, are right now getting pounded. So there's no exports. There's nothing. No oil reserves outside Saudi Arabia that are like in facilities that they export in and so on left. and now this reserve is getting destroyed. So even if we think that the war stops today, and it's going to take six months to two years to rebuild all of this infrastructure,

and the output of Saudi Arabia is not going to rise to its pre-war output for years even after that. The oil prices right now on a global scale should be actually around the $200 a barrel, except for, as we see, the Israelis and the Americans manipulating the market prices by dumping futures at a cheaper price than they bought them, just to make it look like that the price is less than it is. And that's not going to last for long, because even the future. themselves that they are dumping the losses that they're you know having to you know absorb because of this dumping is not sustainable this this action so and and you know the Commission's you know the trading Commission in the United States are hiding these facts even there's complaints about them they're not

allow investigations to happen on this manipulation of prices There is no way for Saudi Arabia to return to the good old days, except by letting go of Yemen, and the United States and Israel are not going to allow them to do that. Because the future of Israel depends, and the future of the United States in Western Asia, depends on defeating the access of resistance. And as we see, the access of resistance is coming out victorious. in most of these battles. I don't know, honestly, I can't anymore analyze

the decisions of these vassals, except through the prism of ideological constraints of Zionism that is forcing them all to take these suicidal actions. Saudi Arabia seems to get, somebody made the point of saying the attacks by Ansar al-A, basically the fact that Saudi Arabia can't do anything about it, is pushing them closer to Israel,

and that Israel was in some level of consideration about basically entering the war. How real do you think that is? I mean, that seems like there will be a hard sell for a government that considers itself this kind of Muslim capital, working with a Jewish supremacist colony. That seems like that's a tough sell to your population.

But do you think that's possible? Look, behind the scene, Israel is already involved. Yes. There's a symbiosis relationship between the Saoud regime, and in general, all of these Arab vassal monarchies, and the Zionist column. Right. And people can research by themselves and look at the exchanges of letters between King Abdulaziz of the Saudi Kingdom and Bingorian. in the 1930s, plotting against the citizens of the kingdom themselves and against the Arab revolt in 1936 that swept through much of greater Syria and Palestine.

So this is a symbiosis. The Zionist regime needs these vassal monarchies to be the defensive line for it. And these illegitimate vassal monarchs that were appointed by the imperialists need the protection of Israel against its own people. So it's they're going to ride together until death basically, right? And that's I think what's going to happen. There is Israeli military and intelligence experts in the Saudi command centers and that's been in reality for you know decades of not almost a century. And so Do they need to openly be involved when they are already involved?

They don't need to be openly involved. I mean, but I don't see how the economics makes sense, right? I mean, Saudi Arabia is an oil-producing state. They have nothing else going on of substance in their economy. It's, you know, it's, I just don't see how this works. I mean, okay, yeah, they have these, obviously they're deeply intertwined, you know, with the Zionists and with the state of Israel. But they're, okay, but what good does it do?

them. They need to export oil or they die. I mean, how does this look in two, five, ten years? You know, this argument also applies to the whole imperial order. Look at the elite in Europe that are destroying their own economies and their trade capabilities through this war in Ukraine or the, you know, suicidal pact with Israel, you know, destroying their reputation, destroying the social services that they have. And even when we talk about Europe and the U.S. having economic warfare with China, I mean, it's suicidal because you depend so much on Chinese products and from the Chinese market to buy your products to continue existing. So what we see is that all the traditional ways that we can analyze the decisions of power

centers in the Imperial Alliance, meaning economy, trade, territory, resources, have now ceased to be meaningful ways that we can analyze these decisions in life. There is total ideological blindness. The elite in the Imperial Corps, Europe, North America, Oceania, and the GCC have now all decided that they're going to risk everything they have all for the maintenance of the Jewish color, even if it means that their whole thing collapses, right? It doesn't make sense, the Emirates or Bahrain or Qatar or Kuwait, which are city-states with less than a million populations to go in bed with the US in a war with Iran.

not a decision that anyone who's logical would make. Right. So there is ideological blindness. Now, this is the only way, the only prism that we can analyze the decisions. The United States has a far more diversified economy, right? I mean, so. The U.S. has, this is, this is, you know, the U.S. is the last one that will collapse probably economically because of these crazy ideological wars. And as we see, it's already cannibalizing the smaller components of the empire, the economies of Europe and Canada, Greenland, all of those, vast actions of cannibalization within the imperial order. And unfortunately, the craziest thing is that the components that are being cannibalized,

like Canada, like Greenland, are actually defending their own cannibalization. like they're continuing with it. So we're in bizarre moments. I mean, think about it. You know what's the most bizarre thing that has happened over the last three years? And I think this is going to be like an anomaly in human history's record. It's seeing, let's say, schools and preachers in the United States, hosting this online, that they are teaching their children in these schools,

that are Christian schools, that Jews are better than them, that there's a chosen people, and that their own life as Christian white Americans are in the service of Jews. God damn. I mean, human history has been always like, we are better than somebody else.

Each nation is saying that they are above somebody else and that those people are less than us. we've never in human history had that civilization stand up on a podium and say those people are better than us and we are in their service. The American politicians, British politicians, French politicians, German politicians are telling their own citizens in their own country, you have less rights than a Jewish American, than a Jewish German and a Jewish and plus all our army will be in the service of the Jewish colony. and we will die for it. And you have to approve that. This is lunacy.

I don't know what kind of psychosis you have to be in to actually stand up and say, I am less than and there's a chosen people and I'm not one of them. We've been accustomed to Western civilization say it's the end of history that there's a superior race that's called the whites or Germanics

or whatever it is, but we've never seen people do this in any human historical period ever. Yeah, the Christian Zionists are weird, like the Hegsef, so the Huckabees, like, just the ideology in and of itself is terrifying. I'm curious on something else. Foreign Minister Araagachi, Iran's foreign minister, apparently have been pressing Ansorla to come to some kind of negotiation or negotiate with Saudi Arabia. They've done this on multiple occasions, and on both Khan's answer law had basically said, no, they didn't trust Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia

wasn't necessarily going to abide by anything that they came up with in the negotiations. That's the question is, why is Argyz even doing that? Yeah, I mean, you know, we got to take that with a grain of salt, the reports of this. You don't believe it? No, I don't believe it. In fact, like, what we have more proof of is that the foreign affairs of, Iran called the Foreign Affairs of Saudi an offer to negotiate a ceasefire. And they put forward the demands of Yemen, which is very simple demands.

Leave us alone. Literally, this is the demand of Yemen. Leave us alone. Stop your bombardment, stop your blockade, and we will leave you alone. We never wanted to attack you. It's literally what the Yemenis have said. And that the Saudis actually are the ones that refused to have any negotiations. They demanded, the Saudis demanded a ceasefire of four weeks and Yemen returned by saying,

no, we want a complete secession of hostilities and a peace treaty basically. And the Saudis have refused. So people should watch out with all of these stuff constantly trying to undermine the foreign and the affairs department of Iran. Not to say that there is no differences of opinion within the Iranian establishment, but the Iranian Foreign Affairs Department, after now the destruction of Syria's Foreign Affairs Department, is the only most advanced, most capable foreign affairs establishment outside Russia and China in the world.

So, you know, constantly talk down about, I mean, their job is to negotiate. Their job is to be the good face while there's the military that is supposed to come and use a stick on the enemies of Iran. If the Iranian Foreign Affairs is always just giving the finger, what kind of foreign affairs would it be, right? It's their job to negotiate, and then the final decisions are to the military and the government. So let's not undermine their efforts to actually do their job. Find solutions.

No, that's fair point. That's a fair point. And you may be right, but the story had floated out. So I definitely wanted to hit you with it to get your take on it. Lath, you have my thanks for this. Unless, Titt, you have another question? I'm good. Okay.

Lath, thank you for this man. Lath Maruth, free Palestine TV. Check out his work on FreePalestine. video late you be safe I see you in a few thank you so much guys thank you very much like appreciate you bye bye so yeah I mean let's talk let's keep let's keep the conversation going um we get regarding the Middle East so it's been a year since the so-called ceasefire in Gaza it turns out that turned that turned that turned out to be like a really good Israeli propaganda move to sign that ceasefire

because they get to keep bombing Gaza. There's been no reconstruction whatsoever. The Board of Peace, remember that? Is like nobody's heard, hide nor hair of them. There's been, basically, the locals are still living in tents, two out of three at least. Everything's just been demolished. There's no infrastructure, no clean water,

no reliable access to food, just abject misery. And the press is still not allowed in. The international press is still, really still don't let them in so we don't get a full picture of what's going on there. I mean, I guess I don't feel like this situation is going to change anytime soon because there's no pressure for it to change on the Israelis or even on the part of the media to get in there and find out what's going on. It's just sort of like these people just languish and the Israelis just keep on keeping on.

But that's feature, not a bug, right? Like, there was always going to be the point. Like the moment that a quote deal was signed, unquote, it allowed Israel to effectively say, hey, everything is good, nothing to see here. The war has stopped and focused on other items as they continue to take land and territory. And by the way, one of the common elements,

whether you're talking about Lebanon, whether you're talking about Gaza, is the destruction of everything. Because they want the land. Like, meaning there's a reason. why they're attacking construction companies or construction equipment in Lebanon, they don't want them to rebuild because that's land

they want to take for themselves. The same thing is shrewing Gaza. What, like 70% they've stolen of the land that they effectively push people back on where people where basically the rest of the population that hasn't been murdered is living in the much smaller, like 30% of Gaza. I mean, think

like that. Like, it was already one of the most densely populated places on earth, and now you've compressed that into like 30% so no they they they effectively used quote peace as a way to continuously conduct their war just to do it behind the scenes while they also went and started killing people in lebanon stealing territory in lebanon no you're right and i mean is there also an even more sinister motive which is i mean look um officially 70 000 according to the gaza health ministry 70 000 people died in

Gaza since 2023. However, they, the way that they, I mean, it's, it's funny because, I mean, funny, it's strange because normally one side, the victim side in a, in a war will tend to overcount their casualties. But that's not what happened here because of the methodology of the Gaza Health Ministry is that they have to have a body, they have to be able to have a body, and they have to be able to identify that body for that person to count and say, okay, so this was Ted all, he was 63, he was a cartoonist, and he lived at this town. Okay, then I count. But if I'm in bits and pieces under the rubble, I don't count for the Gaza Health Ministry. Now, the scientists are all over Twitter slash X saying, like, what kind of genocide is it that the

population of Gaza keeps going up? It's like, well, it's not, is the first answer. The population has been dropping. Not that that would mean, you could conceivably have large family sizes that would make up for it, but that's not really what's going on. I mean, by the latest estimates are that it's closer to five, six, or even 700,000 dead, which, you know, that kind of makes sense when you consider the ferocity of the war and all those ruined buildings. I mean, is it big part of this just to make sure that those bodies stay buried? It's rubble. Like, You cover over the rubble. You're covering over the bodies.

The bodies never get counted. You never have to account for them. You know, let point. And that's it. That's a good point. That's a very good point. Basically, we don't want people on the ground to see the level of carnage that we inflicted on this population.

Well, that's a good point. Especially if reporters ever get in there. Yeah. If they ever get in there. And at that point, the time of the past. Yeah, I mean, you know, it can be in the 90s, you know, I mean, you know, bodies don't last. So, I mean, I do, I mean, they're doing, yeah, they're doing the same thing in southern Lebanon, right? They're just pulling, they're just demolishing everything.

And like, the thing is, I always have this argument with defenders of Israel. I'm like, look, that is part of the genocide, because one of the definitions of genocide is to try to abolish the cultural presence of a people in a place. Like, for example, China has been an acute, one of the accusations against China in the, what's going on in Xinjiang with the Uyghurs is that, like, for example, in the old city of Kashgar, which is an old Silk Road city in Western China, that the Chinese government has been tearing down a lot of these very, very old, five, six hundred-year-old apartments and houses that were constructed in using traditional Uyghur architecture. and replacing them with sort of large, non-descript modern Chinese apartment blocks. And they're saying that's a form of cultural genocide. I think that's a valid criticism to be raised without diverting us into the Uyghur argument. But it's, and I've seen them tear it down. And it is kind of sad, although I can also see it from a Chinese government standpoint.

like these are almost uninhabitable dwellings that are filthy and be and derelict beyond belief and you know they don't have running water and like it's kind of like you know we're a modern country and we don't live like that anymore so that's also a fair argument too this is i mean again you're tearing down you know mosques and churches and even you know stores and uh you know shops All of that is part of the culture of a place. If you just have like, you know, Warsaw at the end of World War II where, you know, there's like that great scene from the pianist where the camera pulls back,

and you just see that the Nazis are completely demolished everything. I mean, you can rebuild, but what was there is just permanently gone. The culture is gone, even if the people start having babies again. It's never their history is gone. I mean, what is, I mean, we should be very clear. The entire point of what Israel did was to do this. We want to make this uninhabitable. We don't want people to come back because they're like, hey, why are they taking

out hospitals? Because they don't want them to get medical care because they don't want them to come back. And stores and bakeries. So you can't buy food or water. You can't have money. Yeah. We want to make this unlivable. Why do they go after the water?

Why did they go after, you know, these things? Because they want to make it unlivable. They want to make it where the people can't necessarily live in that area. They want land. Like when Joe Biden or when Donald Trump is like, we're going to try to get them to move to Jordan, or we're going to try to get Egypt to take it, or we're going to try to get some random country to take them. What do you think is happening with that? It's forced relocation, which is the plan.

Oh, by the way, that's a, you know, I'm sure you've seen this, Jamarle. On Twitter, one of the big talking points nowadays is about the Egyptian border fence that they've erected between Gaza and the Sinai desert. And they're saying, oh, if Egypt cares so much about the Palestinians, why did they build this giant fence there to keep them out? But the reason that they built that giant fence there was because they know that the plan of the Israelis was to obviously kill as many Palestinians as they could, but also for those who they couldn't kill to drive them into the Sinai.

and basically then they'd be able to annex Gaza. That's always clearly been the plan from day one. And so, you know, the Egyptians are like, you guys do you, but we ain't playing your stupid game. And so that's why we're putting this big thing here. So even if you open the fence, your border, the population, you can drive the population in here, but they'll have nowhere to go. They're not coming into the Sinai.

We're not going to cooperate with what you're with your plans. I mean, and so this is, I mean, as strange as it is to say, that fence actually supports the people of Gaza and their right to remain in Gaza, which is what they want when you talk to them. That's what they want. This is our ancestral home. This is where we want to stay. This is home. And so, but I think it's interesting that, you know, the Zionists are kind of like trying to put pressure on Egypt, like, well, you should take refugees. There'd be no refugees if it wasn't for the fact that the Israeli. are bombing the shit out of them. Yeah. It's like you should stop killing. Right? Right.

Like, hey, you should open the gates. If you guys care so much, you should open a gates. Hey, maybe you should stop murdering people, women and children. Yeah, maybe do that. Yeah. If you do that. Why don't you open your gate into the Negev, right? Why don't you do that?

Yeah. So, no, I agree with you. I find that argument to be nonsense. How is it Egypt's problem, something that Israel is doing? Yeah, it's not our mess. Fuck you. We know what you're on. We know what you're on about.

We're not playing. Yeah. And that was what Biden and Trump wanted to do. I never hear any Palestinians complaining. I never hear any Ghazan saying like, oh, fucking Egyptians, they're such assholes. They won't let us in as refugees. You don't hear that. That's not a thing.

No, they want, I mean, they fought this war or this struggle of like 70 years, if not longer. They want to stay where they are. Yeah. So, I mean, Israel is obviously trying to create a context or pretext, a context by which they can't live in that situation, basically trying to force them out. I mean, they've taken 70% of the territory, give or take. There's only 30% left. And again, as I used to talk about the Board of Peace. And in fact, if I remember correctly, this is exactly what we said would happen, that they were trying to use this, quote, Board of Peace as a way to continue pursuit of their war aims.

basically their war aims under the cover of peace, which is effectively what they've been doing. The question is, would they be able to accomplish their war aims? It doesn't seem like these people are leaving. It doesn't seem like they want to leave, despite the horrible conditions that they're effectively living in. And yeah, I agree with you. This is going to go on for a while.

Because there's nobody else to put focus on it. Right now what you have is, well, there's some kind of peace deal in Gaza, which there's not. And there's some kind of deal in Lebanon, which there's not. Because if you notice, they did the same thing for Southern Lebanon. They gave this argument like, well, the U.S. and the puppet government of a Lebanon have made a deal to carve off Southern Lebanon from Lebanon. It's like, whoa, whoa. Southern Lebanon is not Lebanon. Like, what? But the team rules don't apply apparently to the Donbos. Yeah, they don't apply. It's so weird, right? But I guess I'm trying to point out that in both of these situations, they're trying to use this idea of peace as a cover to pursue. sue their war aims. In Gaza, they've been able to do it very proficiently. Lebanon, less so, but that has gained more focus.

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no I mean again and I live in New York like if Hillary Clinton was going to lose in New York well I mean you know I don't know what to say where was she going to win it's the white part that I love in that so his wife apparently Democrat

blames him for going third party Now, I guess how deep does that go is the question? That's the question. She's angry, angry? Like, I don't know. She speaks in his food. Yeah, because, you know, my wife and I, we had the same political leanings. So that was never an issue.

So it would be very interesting to figure out. Yeah, my wife and I had the same leanings too. That was not an issue. People are asking where Robbie is. Robbie has the week off. It's his birthday yesterday, I think it was. And so he and his wife are camping in the wilds of Montana where I think it's already snowing. If I'm not mistaken.

So he sent pictures of them living hard. It's in the show's chat. Yeah. It's like, it's like, I mean, camping is kind of funny. Like I like camping, but it's kind of funny because it's like you have a perfectly good home. And then you go live outside. Yep. It's like you play homeless for a while.

You know, it's funny, when Mindy and I went to the Biden-Pudence Summit in Geneva, Switzerland, and we ended up going, I think it was like in France or Italy first, we end up driving to Switzerland, or even taking the train to Switzerland, I forget which one. But when they were there, they were like, hey, we're going out for a camping thing. And I was like, yeah, screw that. Somebody got a son of massage. I got a massage, a pedicure. In Europe.

Yeah. Yeah, you're in Europe. It's like this husband's supermodel is giving me a rub down. But I want to go out and rough it. Right. And he comes back and he's like, yeah, you probably had the better choice. Yes, I had the better choice. Yeah, because you were sleeping outside.

Yeah. I mean, that's literally, that's literally the entire purpose of civilization with all of the bad things that it's rot, is that you get to sleep inside. Sleeping inside is pretty nice, you know. Yeah, I have a totally. If you don't wake up, there's no spiders walking across your face, you know, nothing like that. It depends on where you're up. Hopefully, hopefully.

What is the thing for GEICO? It was a GEICO. I was, God, Jesus, I was about to say, what is the thing, the GEICO insurance? It's the GEICO. When I was in Indonesia, they were like GEICO's that was under 39th floor. I was under 39th floor. I was at the very top of the place. And these guy goes somehow snuck into the apartment.

And it's very weird when you know that there's another living thing in the apartment that you're trying to sleep. I think you'd like to kill. Yeah. Or at least make a horse believe. I don't like to kill when they come to the way of their fair game. Yeah. No, it's true. It's like, well, yeah, it's kind of, well, it's like a, it's like your little nation state.

Like no illegal immigration. I didn't, you know, it's like if you're a pet, I went and bought you, then you have a, then you have permission to come in. But like, if you're a bug. or a mouse and he snuck in without my permission. Like, then I'm going to go ice on your ass and kill you. Now, I don't kill outside the house.

If you're a bug outside the house, you're a big game. I mean, you're, you know. No, no, for sure. But when you come in. Although, I will say, if I have a wasp's nest, like, as I recently did, like, right under the front door,

I'm like, eh, that's going to be a problem. You can't really, you use the back door from now on like we're still a house yeah it's it's the house but if there's a but if there's a but if there's a wasps nest let's say a pie and it's up on the side of the house like yeah you guys do you know yeah yeah yeah as long as you're not affecting me you're good yeah yeah yeah yeah but you know wasps are wasps be dangerous um oh my god there's these there's like i used to when i used to live in long island they had these they're probably all over the country but there were these wasps these

ground wasps that would make their nest in tiny little hole, like the size of a nickel. You couldn't see it. And they'd come and go from there, right? And it doesn't really matter. But in August, thereabouts, the hive gets like spicy because the queen leaves. And then the whole societal breakdown of the hive causes them to become paranoid and aggressive and territorial. And so I was cutting the lawn in my shorts and a T-shirt.

And I went over it, unbeknownst to me, right? And the fuckers, like, they were yellow jackets. They went up, my shorts, stung me on the balls. It was like totally. And, you know, one yellow jacket can hit you multiple times. It's like, boom, boom, boom, boom. And so it literally feels like you're being, I mean, because it's your balls. It feels like you're being shot.

So you're literally, and they don't stop until you kill them. You can't just like brush them off. You have to kill them like, bam, bam, bam, right? So there you are, you know, hurting yourself even more. And then like, oh my God, it hurt for a month. And I was like, you have to sting me on the balls, really? I mean, we could have worked this out differently. I was so pissed.

I, like, personally took care of it. Like, I went out at night with a, I read about on the internet how to do this with a giant vat of boiling water and poured it in there and killed them. I was like, I'm killing you myself. I'm not calling Orkin this time. This time it's personal. This shit is personal. like they need even they could have bit leg they could have bit thigh he wants to

yeah yeah straight up and also note to self get like you get tighter fitting underwear you know otherwise holy shit like I just wanted my balls to hang on the sun and this guy's for like a year or two after that I was only cutting the lawn wearing like my my jeans tucked into my into my socks I'd be paranoid I would never wear shorts again after some shit like that. Is Shnet over my hat? He could have stung anything.

That's like Luke Skywalker hitting the death star at the right spot. It's like, he blew up. Oh my God. Dodged. Anything that he had to.

It was like, my kid heard me screaming. He said, I thought I heard a girl screaming. I'm like, you did. You did. It was rough.

Oh, that is the funniest epic ever. Tepra says yellow jackets are fierce. lie. They've nailed me in the woods a few times. Yeah, they're, they are brutal. I've never been sung by a yellow jacket, thankfully. I've been sung by a B, and I destroyed that thing immediately. I killed that thing immediately. Oh, one, one useful piece of advice news you can use, right? It's like

toothpaste. Smear toothpaste on your, on your sting right away. Because the, yeah, because it's, the, the sting is acid and toothpaste is a base. I talk. I talk. to a bee guy and he you know the one of those guys who still drives around with the giant bug on the roof and he and he was like he had like tubes of toothpaste stacked on the on the front of his car and like he's like oh yeah i do these i use this every day oh he gets stung a lot oh all the time yeah that's rough they're monsters that's rough i'd be killing yellow jackets every time i get my hands on one like abbey oh yeah no no they're for sure yeah yeah yeah gondo says yellow jacket sting more than once yeah no it's true that's a thing a bumblebee will get you once

and there's a lore that they die afterwards i'm not sure that's true or not we'd have to get an entomologist on to say that but yeah it doesn't seem like it would be true but the stinger comes off and and that's it for the i bet the stinger grows back but i don't know that just doesn't really make sense that you would just die after you sting. It's like something kids say, you know? Like, then you get it one time and then it dies. Like, yeah, it's probably something that parents tell their kids to make them feel better. Like, don't worry, he died.

You got hurt, but he died. Oh, okay. Nature's weird. I mean, like, it's a little bit strange that you have one weapon and you can only use it once. Oh, Tetra says honeybees definitely die after one sting and pulls out their whole insides. I witnessed it. That's wild for me. That's so great.

It's so weird. Yeah. It's like you have one weapon and the first time you use it. That's your life. Yeah, you've got one bullet. Do they know that? Do they know that if they seem to die? Yeah.

Do they know like, okay, this is it? I mean, do they ever think like, oh, this isn't that important. I'll hold my fire this time. Right. Right. Which makes you feel a little bit more important when you get stung like that. It's like, he died for this. Or maybe it because.

of the, maybe it's because of the evolution of like the hive mentality, right? Just sort of like, now, you know, my life isn't, as an individual, isn't that important. This is about the Borg hive, right? This is about, it's about the collective. And it's like, I regret that I have but one stinger to give for my hive. Right. Right. What was the other story? Because we're talking about B. All right. Nordstream. Nord Stream. We were about to start talking about it. So, All right. So do you want to tee up what the official account is of this is hilarious, right? But like basically what Germany is, they alleged that they've arrested dudes who were involved in the yacht, yachters gone wild incident that blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

Yep. Because they're claiming, look, for my boy, okay. that the official story that they weren't running with is that Skipper Gilligan and a few bros were having a drinking is a tail of a Taiwanese ship yeah they were right tiny ship but before they got to the point that they tried to say that well Zelensky didn't have anything to do about it per se that this was Zillushni and that they came up after having a drunken night decided that they're going to blow up the pipeline meaning that the story isolates Zelensky from it to make it as of Okay, Zelensky didn't have anything to do with it.

This was somebody else. Somebody else was paying for it and funding it. And they decided to go out on the ship, the SS Minnow. And it was just a few bros. And they decided to somehow cut Nord Stream pipeline. Like, the story is absurd. Like, where did you get the explosives? When did you get the time frame in order to do this?

When did you get the experts of divers and the other ships that were around to support the divers as they were going around and blowing up a pipeline? right but they're trying to act like any random ukrainian bros could have just done this okay so they have them on trial now i guess i would make the point to anybody with the brain and with ears that when joe biden comes out and joe biden says if the russians go in that pipeline is going to stop and the reporter asked well wait a minute sir that's not her pipeline how are you going to do that and he said we'll do it And then they go to Schultz. And I'm the chancellor.

And they look at him and like, that's a German property that the president of the United States is claiming he's going to do something about it. Right. The Russians go in. The pipeline blows up. And then their first response was what Russians obviously blew up the pipeline. It's like, whoa, whoa. Who wouldn't blow up their own pipeline? Who wouldn't blow up their own infrastructure, right?

And then my thing is like, okay, everybody heard Joe Biden said it said. at a press conference. And you will play the clip. I'd play the clip over and over and over and over again. Because I try to make the point of saying, okay, is Joe Biden a psychic? Did Joe, like, how did Joe Biden know that the pipeline was going to blow up if the Russians went into Ukraine? They never explain that. They never said Joe Biden had remote viewers. Joe Biden had psychics on staff. And rational man says, he obviously blew it up. Now, didn't the UK Prime Minister Liz Truss call him and say it's done. It's done.

Like there's a intercepted, I think, by Russia, you know, phone tap of trust talking to Biden, basically like, it's done. Also, Seymour Hirsch wrote the best article on this. These were U.S. divers, trained, do exactly what they did, meaning it wasn't just bros on a weekend trip that decided to go down and cut a pipeline. That story, the story in and of itself sounds ridiculous. The idea that any random person could go down and blow up a pipeline is outrageous. And the ships that were around.

And we should talk about the logistics of this a little bit, right? So, okay, so the pipeline was blown up at a depth of approximately 180 feet. Now, bear in mind that, like, recreational diving is maximized at 130 feet. and that diving is basically the math of it is exponential. In other words, the pressure at 40 feet is not twice as intense as at 20 feet. It's four times and so on. And so by the time you get down to 180 feet, even if you were in the clear waters of the Caribbean on a sunny day,

it would be pitch dark down at 180 feet. The water would be brutally cold. And you're going to need lamps, and the pressure is going to be extraordinary. You're going to need mixed gases to spend any time down there. And you're going to have to take some serious precautions in terms of not getting the beds. You're going to have to take multiple safety stops on the way back up. But this didn't take place in the beautiful waters off the Bahamas. This take place in the North Sea, right?

The water is brutally cold at the surface, that much colder down there, that much darker down there. It happened at night. So, you know, you're talking about people dealing in very adverse conditions for a considerable amount of time. They have to plant detonation. There was a concrete casement of the pipeline that had to be pierced in order to cause this thing to blow up and release the gas. right so you need a lot of bombs you need a lot of explosives you need and you need to be able to get away from it right before this happens so this is like you know according to everybody knows anything about scuba diving only a state actor is capable of having them access to the specialized training

and the specialized high-quality divers who do this kind of work one of members of my family was a member of the French Navy who did exactly this kind of work. And he was an elite diver, paid many, many high into the high six figures. This is a very dangerous work. And it's highly specialized. It's not just any jackass. Even an experienced dive master can't do this. And then, you know, you're going to need, you're going to also need access to some serious bang bangs, right? I mean, yeah, and that's not going to be easy to get. So, but that's the official story. The Germans have started the trial. They claim that the villains here conducted this plot, quote unquote,

on behalf of the state authorities in Ukraine. There's just so much here, right? I mean, like, why did Germany decide to press forward with this trial, knowing that it's going to obviously imperil their relationship with Ukraine at a key time? Why they do that? Why are they running with this narrative? which is almost certainly at best half true, right, at best. And I don't think it's half true.

I don't think it's hardly true at all. You know, what is going on here? I mean, they have to answer for the fact that a piece of German architecture is blown up. I mean, that's an act of war. And it's fucked up the economy, too. Yeah, and it's very weird, right? Because the argument is, German is giving money to Ukraine. that blew up a pipeline that damaged the economy of Germany.

Like, how do you continuously give this corrupt government that blew up a piece of your architecture, more money, and more support? And yet, that doesn't necessarily seem to register that both of these things happen simultaneously. Supposedly, under this narrative, the Ukrainian government in some way work with these randos to blow up a pipeline that damage the integrity of Germany from the standpoint of their ability to run businesses and those type of things.

And it's like, however, we're still going to give them money. Shultz, not Shultz, Mirz, still goes walking through with a 10% approval rating into Ukraine at the moment with their air bells and everything else. Like, it's a very strange thing that both of these things will happen simultaneously. Here's billions. By the same token, we're putting your own traffic blowing up our pipeline. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's so in common. I mean, it's very, very weird. And the story doesn't make sense. No. Like you're right about the fact that the story doesn't make sense. It's like how, what are the specialized skills of the people that they're claiming did this? And do they have the specialized skills? How they shown, demonstrated that they can operate explosives.

They could operate at that level in depth. Because as you point out, it's not just getting down there. You have to be able to function down there. explosives, blow up the casing, blow up the pipeline, get away from it, and then do it in a way that apparently nobody sees it, because these were in NATO waters at the moment where they were having NATO tests. I think it was ball tops tests or something like that. It's obvious that the U.S. had a role in this. If not, and I believe it was. Peace on it. Let me read something to you. Naval experts from Germany, Sweden, and Denmark, including lieutenant governor, commander of the

Danish Navy and an analyst at the Royal Danish Defense College, obviously. a dummy, Jay Ryber scoffed at the idea that a 50-foot sailing yacht could be used for such a spectacular attack. Naval experts point out that even with very skilled divers, it would be extremely challenging for the crew of six to place, oh, sorry, at 262 feet, according to this report, which is like insane, okay? 80 meters in depth. The explosives needed to create a 2.5 Richter scale blast. Danish and Norwegian engineering newspapers cited this lieutenant commander that it was not credible that such a small vessel could be used for the sabotage. The force of the explosion and the dispersed debris implies that several hundred kilograms of explosives were used, an impractical

amount to transport with such a small sailboat. And surprising the traces of the explosives would be found on the yacht, since in this case, clearly no homemade explosive device was used, and placing the explosives on the pipeline from a small surface vessel would be practically impossible. This skepticism was shared by former chief analyst of the Danish Defense Intelligence Service, now a senior analyst in the Danish think tank Europa, who said that a submarine was clearly used to place the explosives and pointed out that a sonar-equipped submarine, can with relative ease accurately place a naval bottom mine with about a thousand pounds or half a ton of explosives.

That sounds more right. That just sounds more right. Whether it's divers, whether it's a sub, whatever it is, the story that they're selling doesn't make sense. So they try to say that it was an improvised a home explosive that blew up the pipeline. Is that really what they're trying to argue? Yeah. Like it's a, yeah, it's like an IED.

That's insane. Like, that's what I mean, right? The story makes no sense that they're running with. And the only reason I think that they would run a story like this is because the honest answer is the U.S. did it and they can't acknowledge it. If you so. They learned it on a TV show. They learned from television. I bet these guys were plumbers.

Yeah, Israeli plumbers. It's so, because they can do anything, right? Yeah, this is very strange. Peter Ives says the next day, Mr. Anne Applebaum, she's the neo-con writer. Poland foreign minister Sikarski posted a thank you, America, on Twitter with a picture of the methane bubbling up. Yep.

Yeah, I remember that. Because everybody knows who did it. Well, yeah. Are these Patsies? I mean, are they going to convict them and be like, I don't know. I mean, I guess my thing is, the moment, how does the U.S. President stand up there and say, we are going to stop that pipeline?

And then the pipeline blows up and everybody's like, we're bewildered by what just happened. That blows my mind. Yeah, I'm on team, Synerch here. The Synerch thing makes sense. Yes. Yeah, this doesn't make any sense. Anyone who's ever scuba dived recreationally knows this doesn't make sense. And by the way, even if Synerch is wrong, this story still doesn't make sense.

Yeah. I heard she can be wrong, but this is definitely wrong. This is definitely not true. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, so what would be the interest in trying to, since it is obviously a fairy tale, and they're trying to set up these defendants, are these defendants involved in some way, anyway, but just not the way we're being told?

And then what is the point of trying to say they're working for the Ukrainian, what do they say, the Ukrainian state authorities. I mean, it seems like that. I don't remember correctly, though. They didn't include Zelensky, meaning they carved Zelensi out of this, if I'm wrong with this, correct, if I'm wrong. Because I don't know. They may be coming up with a new story than what they were kind of with before,

meaning they may come up with a different theory of the case than what they had prior. Initially, though, the reporting was they were trying to exclude Zelensky from being involved. Oh, by the way, what Tara Preta Wilde says is very important, too. that methane bubbling up released more global warming gases than anything else in human history. True. It was a massive economic environmental disaster. Funny, envirals were silent. Yeah, true.

Yeah, they really were. A little European idea. I can't wait to have Stephen Kinzer, the author of Boiling Point on. I mean, this is the best mainstream account of like the line of bullshit we've been sold about supporting Ukraine that I've ever read. I mean, you can read this stuff in like stuff you and I have covered and stuff that, you know, people like us have written. But it's like this is a mainstream mass market book that you'll be able to buy at every Barnes & Noble in the country. And I don't know how they're going to manage to try to ignore it. Yeah.

I mean, look, what happened in Ukraine is a crime. And it's a catastrophe in a way that is somewhat breathtaking to really get people's head around. it's a war that never needed to happen. And I know for myself, when I was at the radio station, and they used to talk about Nord Stream. And initially, I didn't get it, right? Because it was like Peter Oliver used to come on it every week. And he's talking about North Stream over and over and over again.

And it would kill time, but it was kind of like, why are we still talking about this fucking pipeline? And then it's blowed up. Then they blew it up. And it was like, holy shit, they blew up a pipeline. And it's like, holy shit, this was a real war. Like there were people being shied in the face to the tune of thousands every day. Because it was such a big economic link between Russia and Europe, right?

I mean, that's why they had to get rid of it. They got rid of it. But it's just the fact that they did, which gives context to the changing of the world. Like, that's a big fucking deal. Like, that's not a minor thing to blow up a pipeline that is like 100 feet underwater. I think we should continue to watch this as the trial proceeds and see exactly how they try to frame this. Yes, it would be very interesting. And I would be very interested in the Ukrainian defense.

Yeah, maybe we should try to get someone on. I'll reach out and see if we can get like someone from, someone more attached to the trial, maybe a journalist or someone from the defense team or someone like that. Because it would be interesting. Because my first argument will be, how do you expect us to do that? Yeah.

Like, this is impossible. My argument would be your story is impossible. I don't need to prove that I'm in a sentence. Your story is impossible. Your stories, it did not and could not have happened. Right. Yeah. That would be my story.

You should have come up with a better story. And yeah, and maybe this is just, hey, we need to have a trial in order to say that we did something, not because we wanted to commit. That could be that. It's like, oh, it's a mystery who did this. And it will be a mystery forever. They're insulting our intelligence. We have two more stories to cover. Let's do super earths.

So it's not to say that. Super Earths, super Earths are orbiting cooler K-dwarf stars. Maybe you can explain what a K-dwarf star is because I don't really understand. Could be more habitable than Earth because they have thicker atmospheres, stabbler climates, and stronger magnetic shields that would allow complex life to live longer and become even richer. So there's been experiments with garden crests, which sprouts faster under simulated light by K-dwarfs. And so basically, we might be living in kind of like a bad neighborhood of the universe.

You know, it turns out we might be in the slums. And we could like, we should, we should follow Elon and like go to space and get the fuck out of this place. Shake the dirt of Earth off our feet and go explore the stars. It could be worse. We could be living in Mars or on Mars. At one point, there were Earth-like planet. I had waters and rivers and lakes and, you know, stuff like that. a million years ago before whatever happened in the solar system.

A Cato star, if I'm not mistaken, it's just a smaller star. Like, you know, it's like planets have classification, dwarf planets, etc. For my understanding, it's just a smaller star. And for the super earth thing, it's like we haven't even finished fucking up this earth before moving on to another planet. It's like, man, we need to start considering the next place we're going to go after we scroll this place up. I mean, it's, look, under my assumption, there is life in the galaxy. There has to be.

There are too many stars, too many planets, but they're not to be. The universe is just such a big place. Yeah, it's such a big place. I mean, like, there are more stars than grains of sand on every beach in Earth. And when you try to process it, like, how many grains of sand are there on Earth? And it's like, there are that many stars in the galaxy plus more or in the universe plus more. There has to be.

There has to be. It would be weird if that was, like, you would have to invoke God in order to say there's nothing else very strange um so will they be super earth sat there i assume there would be my assumption is yes would they be super earthful with life forms on it yes i assume they would be life has a tendency to prospect to life tries in pretty much every environment like volcanic pits and you have life that are growing in volcanic pits and you like how could anything live in temperatures like that and yet they do so yeah i assume that life, given any opportunity to grow,

based upon any particular dynamic that's sustainable, growth and happens. I don't know what that looks like. Now that we've crapped up the Earth, should we leave and go look for something else? I think we always should have left. I mean, look, I think we should have an intergalactic civilization,

but we gotta get our shit straight here first. I don't want wars in space. Yeah. Like, I don't want us having that way. We're headed that way, but I don't want fighting on the moon. Well, I get that. I think things will crash before they change.

And when they crash, whatever comes after, God willing, is better than what it is, you know? Meaning I hope humanity gets its shit together. And obviously, it's going to take something cataclysmic for it to get his shit together, but I hope it gets his shit together. And that's when I want to split into the stops as one thing. I mean, look, this is me being idealistic

and maybe even sentimental. But that's what I would prefer. I don't want us where some rando general is like we need to have wars on the moon. Okay, for one, I don't want us having wars in space in general, right? And more to the point, it is cheaper to have peace. That doesn't seem to matter. But it's cheaper. Like many, it's easier for me to go to Russia and China and say, hey, let's make a deal on security.

And in this deal on security, we agree to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. In which case, I don't have to spend money creating weapons in space. I don't have to spend money, create new nuclear weapons. I don't have to spend money on this other shit. I can spend my money in other places. That's what I would prefer Earth to do. Will they get to that point? The U.S. does not seem to be in any mindset

for that particular point of view. The rest of the world, at the very least, the non-Western world seems to be on that kick. Why do you think it's the non-West, it's the Western world that seems to be in this mindset of conquests, even now? I mean, Europe may not be, Europe has no issue with the U.S. going to war in Iran,

short of the fact that Europe is that energy from that region. It seems like it's the rest of the world that is in this mindset of compromise. It seems like it's in this mindset of we need to retain control and authority in the context of this kind of multipolarity world that seems to be emerging. I think it's a hangover from like the age of exploration that led to colonialism. And you know, and I think it's a colonialist mentality, right? And like the European powers, ironically, right? Most European countries lived in a pretty sweet place, like in terms of climate and soil and all that.

Like, you know, the French didn't have to leave. They had great soil, great climate. You know, everything grows. There's fish. There's everything. All the food you need to eat, you're fine. And like they up and went and decided to take over big parts of the world. And, you know, obviously the Brits, the same thing and Spanish and.

Belgians and so on. I think it's that same, I mean, there's one mentality that Anglo-Saxons, specifically, are the most aggressive. I've read this theory by anthropologists, are the most aggressive tribes that have ever existed in quasi-modern history, and that they just have, they're sort of wired to go out and want to go, come, go to other places and kill and rape and steal. It's just their, it's their jam. Yeah, that may be, for whatever particular reason, it may be their jam.

I don't think, I mean, they're just people. Right, sure. Why, why them? I don't know. I mean, I think it probably boils down to because they can or because they could. And then once you start doing things a certain way, that's just what you get used to. I mean, I think the Chinese might have been more expansionist, if not for the fact that they were subjugated and contained for so long, that then they had to learn, you know, after the, during the, during the, during the, you know, the opium wars and all that stuff, they had to learn basically like, oh, like, we need to figure out

another way to become powerful. We have to do our own thing first. And then, you know, they, they didn't want to be on the receiving, they didn't want to put other countries on the receiving end of the same mentality that oppressed them. You know, I mean, it's hard to say. I mean, that is a big, like, Jared Diamond, you know, kind of type question, right? Like, a big fat doorstop of a book could be written about this question. One last thing quickly. 11 o'clock. I'm going to have to close. Okay. All right. We'll close.

And what was the thing we were going to talk about? We were going to talk about. I guess we did cover. Oh, yeah. The airport thing. We can do that tomorrow. Okay. So anyway, thanks everyone for tuning in. Thank you, Jamar. We'll be back tomorrow. 9 a.m. Eastern time.

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