Desert Island Dicks - HOME COUNTIES

Episode Date: November 24, 2023

Off the back of announcing their debut album Exactly As It Seems, I'm joined by Will and Bill from the band Home Counties! They join me to share who and what they'd hate to be stuck with on a desert i...sland. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm James Deacon and welcome to Desert Island Dicks, the show that sees you marooned on a desert island after a plane crash with the worst people and worst things imaginable. Who they are and why they're a dick is up to our guests. And here to share their desert island dicks with us today is Will and Bill from the Bound Home Counties. How are you boys doing? We're very well, thank you. Very well, thank you. Glad to be here. Yeah, thanks for joining me. I think I was saying to you before, it's quite exciting.
Starting point is 00:00:36 We get a lot of comedians on here, which I think, you know, it's great. I do enjoy that. But it's rarely that we're getting any bands on. As a lover of music, this is very exciting to me so thank you for joining me also you've just announced your debut album which is pretty exciting how how are you feeling about that yeah we're feeling good it's been a long it's well the last few days have been a bit stressful leading up to the announcement just pulling everything together in about 50 email chains and group chats it's just like yeah and you don't really know quite what's going
Starting point is 00:01:05 on but we got it over the line we got it announced yeah down to the down to the wire bowie yeah well it all looks very good online we'll get into it a little bit more at the end but i i would say like two very different worlds probably when you're working as a band recording writing and recording an album you're as a little tiny unit then all of a sudden there's all these other people involved in the in the situation right is that how it works yeah there's yeah exactly right like we're normally just kind of kind of cooped away just working on it between us and then when you end up getting to actually putting it out you do have to just get a lot of you get a lot of other people involved which is you know it starts with a lot of other artists and everything when
Starting point is 00:01:43 you're trying to get like the album artwork sorted and oh yeah and you know these different kind of assets that go along with the release and and working with other artists is like its own thing you know and then after that it comes the having a bit more of the admin admin grunt work come out oh no that's the least fun bit okay well uh i mean aesthetically it's looking great i've seen all the stuff that's been posted online and it looks lovely so great work and we'll talk about it a little bit more in detail at the end i want to ask you how did you find choosing your people people and things for the desert island difficult we just it's a hard format because it's like you don't want to be like offensive yeah you don't want to take it too seriously no of course of course there's a lot of like sort of political figures you could choose
Starting point is 00:02:31 i think it's a it's a fun challenge though because it's uh i think the the second you sit and think about it there is actually a long list of people that actually you wouldn't want to be placed in that situation i guess yeah that the immediate thought was like people you object like objectively hate and then you realize like maybe they're not actually the worst people to be on the desert island with it is actually no no the most annoying yeah yes yeah yeah i think i think that sounds it sounds like you've taken a really smart route and i'm very intrigued to hear who you've chosen so can i ask you who's your first choice going to be for desert island i mean i we again like i said we went back and forth on these for a while i think but the one that kind of stuck around in
Starting point is 00:03:14 my head though would be like someone like gordon ramsey yeah because we will it came to my head because i think he's just done another season of kitchen nightmares i remember that you know that was something that people just watched on like compilation clips you do watch it and it is just him berating these like tiny small business owners i know i'm just like you know slaying them to like not know how to fry fish and stuff i mean i don't know how to fry fish but like i don't know i think you'd want a bit more help than that and I just figured like if you're in a desert island situation like food is scarce you're having to make tough decisions yes you're gonna have to be resourceful as possible I just felt like whatever you ended
Starting point is 00:03:56 up cooking up to have be with someone that would like criticize you for it would just be the last thing that I would need in that situation for sure for sure all like such a difficult character to be around criticized and like put down nothing was ever going to be good enough you're not going to be able to like reach his standards at any point but you're just trying to survive yeah i had this image of me like you know hunched over like a tiny little fire like desperately trying to like you know stir some like shallots that we'd found or something i was getting like it's bit sprayed by ramsey spit sprayed by ramsey is a great quote i i think um yeah really difficult i he actually came to a local business like literally like 10 minutes from where i am right
Starting point is 00:04:45 now and completely ruined them but i think fair enough but like i'd eaten there a few times and when he first did his like it must have yeah it was was it kitchen nightmares when he when he goes in and he basically berates your business he went in and the the hygiene standards in there were insane there you go it's always the freezers like that it's the same when you watch when you binge watch them yeah you you do see like these patterns emerging and it is like he criticizes the menu or whatever and then he or he goes you know talks about the hygiene you go to the freezers and they've just got like prehistoric meats in there haven't been touched in hundreds of years that's grim yeah yeah yeah. Is that what you do for downtime then
Starting point is 00:05:26 in between writing and recording? Are you watching a lot of Kitchen Nightmares? It comes on, you know. It's no stranger. As I say, you know, the new season as well. It's kind of like a bit of nostalgia as well. He's like in his mid-60s. You'd think he would simmer down a little.
Starting point is 00:05:44 The thing is, I actually really like Gordon Ramsay and i think this was one of my disagreements i because like if you watch like the first season of kitchen nightmares the uk one he's actually like quite nice there's one where he goes to a restaurant and he's actually like wow the food's really good and it's really clean he's like well done and he just like gave them some new curtains or something that's like the only example of that happening though pretty sound guy there's really i think i think like the americanized portugal ramsey or his new character i don't think you'd want to be no locked up with him so some producer watched it or was like working on the show and it was like i tell you what's really
Starting point is 00:06:21 good is when you start swearing at people do more of that and that's what like you know they were like do you want to make loads of money we can make loads of money off you doing this and i think he was just like yeah sure yeah that'll be fine it got obviously in the desert island context it could go the other way like you could bring him you know some like kind of some leaves maybe and like and maybe you caught a fish or some shells. He could whip it up into some Michelin star level. Yeah. I think he wouldn't. I think he would just look over you and be like,
Starting point is 00:06:55 you're pathetic. You're burning it. Yeah. Idiot sandwich. Yeah. Good. Gordon Ramsay is going to be your first choice. Who is going to be your second choice who is going to be a second choice I'm going to do one not a it's not a celebrity it's more like a sort of type of person
Starting point is 00:07:11 okay and it's the people that excessively talk about sports and there's one there's one person in mind who was like my rugby coach when I was younger I played rugby for a few years I was terrified to leave I hated it terrified to leave because of the coach. Just like unable to talk about anything except rugby. I can't imagine anything worse. I've played with this person over the years since,
Starting point is 00:07:35 like down on the high street of the local town or whatever. It's just straight away like, did you see the results of the lower league rugby game on Saturdayurday like some non-professional teams like of course i did it this is bonkers yeah yeah like some people that becomes their personality it's just like knowing those things and that that's their that's their own special club is that they know that stuff in the state of being locked away on the Des Island, not being able to access the results of all these games,
Starting point is 00:08:07 they'd be absolutely furious. It's maddening. And they're just people that I wonder how, like, Wickham Wanderers, under-11s have done on their five-a-side tournament on Wednesday. It's that sort of, I couldn't, I couldn't deal with that. You'd have to like come up with your own games on the islands just to like keep him satisfied.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Keep track of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It would be, that would be annoying. It'd be like, come on guys, let's get like a game of,
Starting point is 00:08:39 I don't know, keep yuppies going every day. And it's just like, no, I don't think so. Not today, man. That is a,
Starting point is 00:08:49 that's a definite corner of hell. If you're like trapped on a desert island and you're still playing rugby yeah yeah like stupidly long socks out of the post out of like four strategically placed trees yeah so you played rugby for a while you were desperate to get out but you couldn't what stopped you getting out then this coach? I was scared that like actually we once played a fundraiser
Starting point is 00:09:11 in my band when I was about 14 been in a band for years and I was never very I obviously didn't enjoy rugby very much
Starting point is 00:09:18 and you could tell in my performance I didn't want to tackle anyone didn't want to I was really crap at throwing the ball a pacifist
Starting point is 00:09:25 so generally not that good at rugby no terrible but I was in this coach believed in me for some reason because we once played a fundraiser at a rugby club and he saw me play on stage and he came up to me afterwards and was like if you put the passion you put into that performance
Starting point is 00:09:42 on the rugby pitch you'll be our best player and he was like well if you put the passion you put into that performance on the rugby pitch, you'll be our best player. And it was like, well, I don't like rugby. So that's why I don't. I've only seen the transfer in skills, though. I know, I know. The rugby legends of our generation, like ex-rock stars.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah, my love. Like Paul McCartney on the pitch. I'm so weak from just locking myself in my bedroom playing guitar for 8 hours a day yeah also it's just like it's kind of sad that that guy has to circle everything back it's just like what he should have done is come up and say I tell you what that was really good
Starting point is 00:10:19 well done I was well impressed with you playing there do you know what I mean not being like take those skills and stick them on the pitch why does does it have why does it have to end up in rugby pack it in son and i think if we're going to on the desert island he's going to be using rugby as a metaphor for everything we're doing like yeah it will be like trying to light the fire it will be some sort of like a scrum or the elements yeah everything would be done in through that prison and i don't think i could deal with it you could you could you have to beat nature three nil yeah oh this is good this is really good i think like i like a personal one and uh yeah that is a frustrating character it's a
Starting point is 00:11:01 funny challenge as well when you're in situations, you know, when you go watch a game with somebody, you don't, you're not actually into the game really at all. You don't, so you have, you end up having to pick some kind of side. My friend came on this role, which is you always support the team in reds, like no matter who they are. So, and that's actually done. I think that that's saved my skin a lot to be fair. Like you show up to a game like, yeah, Arsenal. Yeah. Come on you reds. Come on you. Yeah. Come on, you Reds. Come on, you Reds. You come on, you Reds. Because Arsenal fans, they're always saying that.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Yeah, literally. You can't stop them. That's their charm. That's their charm. Okay. So rugby coach is going to be a second choice. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Okay. Okay, cool. And who is going to be a second choice yeah yeah okay okay cool and who is going to be your third choice this um choice uh so i'm going to choose chris martin i think okay i mean i'll never forget i feel a bit you know it's a bit conflicted about because i'll know i feel a bit betraying because i you know i i saw coldplay actually had the emirates actually i saw coldplay you know and i'm shouting that go on your head i finished it and i was like who won
Starting point is 00:12:14 you know and i really i enjoyed it they were it was it was really good i think it was ruined it for me was during the lockdown he was doing loads of live streams and he was talking about he was at his piano and he's talking about uh how he was up late one night noodling on a song or whatever and then his wife was like oh come to bed and he just said he was like oh i like i don't like going to bed i've always hated going to bed because i just love life so much and i remember like literally like oh i mean that is that's not the attitude that you want to have with someone on a desert island i i need a bit of like realism a bit of bleakness a little bit of like you know a bit of self-deprecating humor maybe
Starting point is 00:12:58 a bit of a depressing i think if you're like trapped on that like completely dire scenario with someone that is just a pure positive force would be too much definitely yeah yeah i think i think there's that but also if they come out with such cringe inducing lines as i just love life too much to go to sleep i don't know if i could bear that for that long i just wouldn't want to be around that person no and he's obviously he had his whole thing with, because he was married to Gwyneth Paltrow, so there's also that you just need to have a bit of a meditate
Starting point is 00:13:32 about it, which is maybe not the kind of go-getting attitude that is going to get you off a desert island. No. And if there's God forbid there's an acoustic guitar laying around, don't want campfire songs. No,'t share for sure no it'd be like this one's called yellow
Starting point is 00:13:51 again i just think like it's the difficult thing is yeah i don't blame you for going to see cold play my wife went to see cold play when she was younger and like i think given the opportunity if i knew anyone that liked cold play and was like do you want to go to Coldplay I probably would have gone to see them because like it's undeniable that they've got some good songs but it's like they're not a very cool band to like
Starting point is 00:14:14 they're like the antipathists so it's difficult it's like a stadium band isn't it like you watch it and then you every single song you're like oh yeah I You watch it and then you're just like, every single song you're like, oh yeah, I know this one. And then you're singing the chorus
Starting point is 00:14:29 and then the next one you're like, oh yeah, classic. Yeah. And then you leave and you're like, that was terrible. Yeah. He's once said in an interview that if he could write an album
Starting point is 00:14:40 half as good as OK Computer, then he'd be so good. So he's like, I don't know. I found that really surprising because that's such a particular sound and album and direction and like that's not what Coldplay is so like that's what he's going for he's like he's not getting there he's not really hit the mark okay yeah so Chris Martin for the desert island that is uh it's just it that is a solid choice i mean the detachment from reality not dissimilar to gordon ramses in many ways i imagine those two are going to get on quite well it's just it's like
Starting point is 00:15:12 they're they're like they've stepped on hollywooditis kind of thing like the pamper of la chris martin goes on um thank you very much will and bill now mercifully among the wreckage of the plane there was some food and drink left over. Unfortunately for you, it's your least favourite food and drink in the world. What are they and why are they so bad? The drinks, when we discussed it between each other, basically we drew from the exact same place. Yeah, it's basically from the place of alcoholic drinks,
Starting point is 00:15:42 which you can't drink anymore because of overcons as a teenager um strong by dark fruits oh like can you imagine like opening that plane and seeing just crates of dark fruits crates of warm dark fruit yeah probably yeah it's lovely and warm quite nice and warm and just like oh that's grim that's awful the thought of drinking dark fruits now is just like sweet to the taste my teeth hurt it really corrodes
Starting point is 00:16:16 them doesn't it everything about it is just horrible do you have a story from your fabled youth or is it all it's a hazy blur I can't remember so much dark fruit actually i think well i was thinking dark fruits more as like i think dark fruits wasn't a thing when we were first like yeah teenagers yeah it was just regular strong but at first and black but i think i probably could drink a strong by now but i don't think
Starting point is 00:16:40 i could drink a dark fruits it's weaker dark. Dark fruits. It's more. Yeah. Yeah. They're like always as well. I feel like it's so tailored towards kids drinking. It's crazy. It's like the marketing team have got this, like everyone signs an NDA and they only talk about it in a little room. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:16:58 how, how can we market this to 15 year olds? I'm so. It doesn't come with like a little straw. Yeah. Like a little carton with a straw like my kids yeah yeah i oh it's yeah i i remember i remember one like kind of festival season um they were doing morrisons or asda were doing like kegs of dark fruits so you could buy like a little keg in here and you could little
Starting point is 00:17:25 tap on it and pump it out yourself and we went to this festival and we had to you know those the big like fences that like they're kind of cordoned off there's different areas we were like we had to move some beers from the car to the arena but we didn't want to like bother carrying them all the way around because we could see where we needed to pass them so we like passed the crates under the fence but then where the keg wouldn't fit so my friends um just threw the keg over arm over the fence and i just saw it like soaring through the air and like thud in the ground and then after that we obviously like still cracked you know cracked it and put the tap on and everything that popped up was this purple foam
Starting point is 00:18:08 because it was pooped I guess the whole thing would be like if we had survived the wreck it would be fizzed up wouldn't it? it was little pints of foam and it wouldn't settle or anything it was just like candy fox in a glass oh my god
Starting point is 00:18:23 it's like oh i want to drink a parched have some dark fruits foam yeah that's great that is great oh yeah i feel like dark fruits like pass me by in a way but like my wife and my um one of our friends they have like this running joke and like every time we have a party whoever's going to the other one will bring four dark fruits and it's just like they always have like one or two at the start and they're like but it's just for a joke i don't know how the joke started but there's always dark fruits involved but it never goes down well no it must be like 50 grams of sugar in each one it's like more than a coke or
Starting point is 00:19:05 something i used to i used to work in a pub in bristol and all the locals would it's not dark fruits but it's strong though all the locals would drink this cider which was branded as like ye bristol cider and i'd be like i remember once it was really busy and the locals there's all their gin they're like we only drink the proper stuff we won't touch that thatches once it was really busy and the locals, there's all their gin. They're like, ah, we only drink the proper stuff. We won't touch that Thatcher's. And it was really busy. And my manager was like, go down and change the keg, went downstairs.
Starting point is 00:19:30 And I was like, there's all I could see was Strongbow. I was like, I ran back up and I was like, where, where's the old Bristol cider? And he's like, Strongbow.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah, go change this. But all the locals swore by it. Bristol is a massive thing, cider. They're all just drinking Strongbow yeah no changes but all the locals swore by it every store was a massive thing side by side they were all just drinking Strongbow
Starting point is 00:19:48 branding so maybe if the dark fridge was branded and authentic lovely vimto drink
Starting point is 00:19:56 or something we would be alright with it that's great I love stories like that that's so good just everything
Starting point is 00:20:04 is Strongbow. I mean, if you told me that that wasn't just the case for that one cider, but all ciders, every single cider was just Strongbow, I wouldn't be that much of a conspiracy. I'm like, oh, yeah. That's great. That is lovely. Okay. So Strongbow Dark Fruits, awful for the rest of your life. Just to sup on that for the rest of your life just to sup on
Starting point is 00:20:26 that for the rest of your days and what is going to be your food choice i've got a massive thing again i hate really stinky food and okay specifically tuna and sweet corn i know a lot of people like it like you probably you're probably in town are you into tuna on its own no not at all i'm not into cheese particularly the look of it with the with the yeah and then it's when you're getting like a jack of potato and then everyone's just like well of course you're gonna thumb in loads of tuna and sweet corn you're like i don't really know and just imagine like that's all that there is to eat especially it's hot i'm like i've been on so many megabuses with connor and our band he loves tuna
Starting point is 00:21:04 sweet corn melts and stuff i remember we really hung over on a megabus from bristol to london when we when we used to live there and he got he bought the sandwich and i was really hungry i was like connor please you cannot eat that he's like fine i'll do it for you we'll only eat it four hours into the trip massive delay he's like well i've got to eat it and by then it got like really sticky and bit dark on the eight yeah and then and then he decided to eat it this world's stinkiest sandwich and on the desert island it would if it's hot it's definitely going to be that sort of thing isn't it i mean maybe you could learn from lessons and the second you crash immediately eat all of the tuna sweet corn sandwiches like gorge yourself
Starting point is 00:21:46 on them so that they don't go bad yeah although you just that's just that's just making a bad day even worse isn't it yeah i i'm with you i i mean i was absolutely fine with tuna i used to eat it loads but weirdly enough when i had covid right and it changed my sense of I lost my taste for for ages like three weeks I couldn't taste anything I don't know if either of you have had it but like um and then I came like when I eventually got my taste back loads of things taste this different and now like stuff like chicken like my daughter eats tuna sandwich and it is the most vile smell like before i was fine with it but now it just tastes like it smells and tastes like bins do you know what i mean i think you
Starting point is 00:22:32 that's a line to what like my sort of perception of it i think it smells like a a manky like food bin in a student halls which hasn't been taken out yeah exactly yeah sometimes your tastes do just switch like that because actually it's funny you said it because um when i was younger my go-to sandwich my pack lunch was teriyaki salata sandwiches teriyaki salata is like that's it's like that greek whipped fish oh wow but like it's not like that's the fanciest no i know i said i mean caviar it's not like that. It's like, like it's grim. It's like stinky, stinky fish,
Starting point is 00:23:10 like, like cheapest chips basically. And I would have, you're supposed to have it as like a dip or something. I'll have it as sandwiches every day for years. And then I distinctly remember literally just have biting in one at a time. And it just tasted like the most rancid thing ever. And nothing had changed.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Like, my tastes had changed. Yeah. Growing up. I told you before. It's a coming of age story for the ages. You know what I mean? You're a weird fish paste. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Caviare sandwiches. It was tough really down to earth those home counties that's what i'd say okay so are we saying any stinky foods like what are you like with like well i do want to keep stinky cheeses and stuff like that are you how do you feel about i'm not big into like blue cheese i like but i like like stinky brie yeah yeah but not not of the blue variety um we did a gig recently uh we had this long drive and our band made lois made something like 10 egg mayo sandwiches oh and that was the same story and there's the but the thing is that everyone like you know egg mayo is like absolutely delicious especially like made that morning
Starting point is 00:24:28 and we're just you know just in the car and it was like everything well it was all you kind of smell the egg mayo in like you know in the bag just kind of like in the background and then it was lunchtime everyone eating an egg mayo at once that was I was the one driving as well and I was literally
Starting point is 00:24:44 like driving on the m4 like i was like stop eating them it's unsafe yeah yeah i was gonna ask so like something i should have asked you in dark fruits time is like obviously you're taught if you're touring a lot or or even if you're playing one-off gigs but you've got to travel like what what's the situation like? So one of you is driving. Do you indulge in a few drinks afterwards? Are you stopping anywhere for food? What usually happens?
Starting point is 00:25:12 It depends on the show really. It's usually like a mad frantic sprint. And we all like really don't want to drive. And we're like, shock on me, shock on me. And then someone drives. Yeah. It's usually after the show because no one wants to like not really drink for the gig but it's it depends because sometimes it is a bit like you show up you play and then you're you kind of just have to pack it in and head home
Starting point is 00:25:35 but there is but we kind of jump at the chance to you know leave our stuff at the venue basically and like go crash at someone's house and like actually enjoy uh the place we're at afterwards that's lovely i love that because sometimes you hear and people are like no we pack up immediately we get in the van and we i want to be home by half past 12 so i like that you do that that's that's brilliant and what about like in terms of a rider are you getting like drinks laid on any dark fruits that back there it's typically it's in the uk especially it's the band of six you'll usually get maybe a four pack of carling oh if you're lucky an apple and uh half a pot of hummus half pot of hummus and ready salted crisps from little oh yeah it does vary but that is the typical, um, like little pub in London sort of.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then if you go to, when we play in Europe, it's free course meal, like unlimited bar.
Starting point is 00:26:34 We had a, we played a gig in Dunkirk the other day. Well, a few months ago, was it? Yeah. Maybe a year ago. I don't have any sense of time,
Starting point is 00:26:43 but yeah, they had, we had a keg and like a proper beer machine in our dressing room oh yeah i forgot about oh god we had to change it didn't we yeah what you rinsed the whole care yeah well yeah it's when yeah i think it's quite bad when uk bands go and play in europe because we just we just i mean there's obviously a bit more of a drinking culture in us in our side of things, but there is also, you just,
Starting point is 00:27:08 you're never in a situation where there's like a free bar really. So you just don't even know what to do with yourself. You get so excited. It's just like, I'll have all of it, please. Do you have to limit the amount that you drink? Is there like a cap before you go on or do you know yourself?
Starting point is 00:27:21 What, how do you play? I think we've got better over the years. I mean, I've done about you when I was, when we we were especially when we were like 17 or something i used to play this venue a lot um that if you sold a certain number of tickets you would get quite a few crates of beer basically for the bands uh which in retrospect was like a big scam because actually you had to give the venue something like like 150 pounds and they would buy you like two crates of beer but at the time it was amazing yeah yeah yeah so i think those those those are definitely like the more debaucherous uh yeah i think over the years
Starting point is 00:27:59 our sort of like our setups got a bit more complicated we used to be quite like we used to be just straight up guitars and bass and you can sort of get away with being a bit looser but now we've got like three synthesizers on stage those are percussion there's a lot more going on so like it's not really compatible with being sloshed yeah you don't want to fall about the stage trying to set that shit up yeah or take it down no no yeah oh yeah yeah yeah but i guess you feel a buzzer like no matter if you like whenever i've done anything like that you have a couple drinks before but then you have the adrenaline of playing and that kind of cancels it out for a little bit afterwards maybe yeah it depends i can definitely i remember those times where like you're a little bit
Starting point is 00:28:41 you know you're a bit bebs and then when you get in stage you do get really into and you you're kind of like this tunnel vision of like energy and then after you you're a little bit you know you're a bit bebs and then when you get in stage you do get really into and you you're kind of like this tunnel vision of like energy and then after you you're like packing down you're like oh yeah i'm really drunk i feel like you're like trying to like you know tie the cable or something that's good okay um so we're going to go strong water dark fruits and stinky foods yeah i think you're not going to do well in a desert island if you're not going to eat fish so like just saying no you're gonna have to you're gonna have to at some point probably one of the only only possible okay thank you guys now fortunately you won't be without entertainment
Starting point is 00:29:25 on the island the planes entertainment system continues to work but just your luck it only has two working settings and so for you this week it's going to be two songs you've got one song on one channel one on the other what are they and why are they so bad i think what's gonna be your first one yeah thinking about this it's very easy to jump to just like kind of mundane pop songs or whatever they like you know you're going to hear all the time but this one i think actually gets like a lot of acclaim and like that's it just rubbed me the wrong way the whole time um which is dreams by fleawood mac it's a bit of a because i like because i love rumors like i'm obsessed with that album i just think that that song um for one gets overplayed a lot like that's the only song really from the album that
Starting point is 00:30:13 like will come on people's playlists and stuff you end up hearing a lot in that way when the rest of the album is also like really really good um and also i just don't think it's like stevie nicks's best song as well you know i mean so i just i just i just nothing about don't think it's like Stevie Nicks' best song as well, you know what I mean? There's nothing about it you just get a lot of resistance with that song I don't know if it warrants it I don't really like Fleetwood Mac at all
Starting point is 00:30:37 You don't even like what, the rest of the album? No, not really I also associate that song in particular with being like four in the morning afters and yeah it's my my mate from uni who i live with still denzel like loves feet with mac so it's just constant repeat i i associate with it like watching the sun come up like wow this is sad very sad this is time to go home yeah yeah yeah the signifier of it's gone too far yeah that's how yeah what i associate yeah yeah i think it's just like it's someone's like oh let's put on
Starting point is 00:31:12 something that's a bit like soulful or bluesy or something and then they put that and you're like i just remember being at university similarly and like i swear to god i couldn't move for rumors it was just like every person's uni house i went to everyone had a copy of rumors everyone was like we're so cool we've got a record player what have you got rumors and it was just like on all the time and it was just like you'd go around someone's house and it was like oh i just picked up a wicked record have you heard this and i was like it's the cause of fucking yesterday it's everywhere i do get it but it is good but i agree overplayed to death yeah and i think just the vibe of it i think like it doesn't repetition of it makes it really just worm into your ears yeah in a bad way you
Starting point is 00:32:01 mean the album or just like flew with Mac in general yeah I don't know why I don't I dislike very little music I think I know I like Fleetwood Mac a lot but there are times where they brush up like quite close to like that kind of like Eagles sounds just like you know like very easy listening 70s kind of American West Country soul music kind of stuff like big band stuff. And I don't know. Those times when it just doesn't sound unique anymore. It just feels like,
Starting point is 00:32:30 kind of like you say, it's everyone's go-to genre almost to feel a bit classy or a bit chill. And I just don't... I don't know. I actually like Rumours a lot. But I think the rest of the songs on it are way better
Starting point is 00:32:46 and more interesting. I'd agree that it's my least favourite of the songs. Okay, there we go. We're in agreement there. I feel like as well, it's like people that I know that generally they like music maybe, but don't really have any particular favourite bands. Maybe they never regularly go to gigs.
Starting point is 00:33:07 They always seem to say, oh yeah, I like Fleetwood Mac. Do you know what I mean? It's just a really easy go-to if you're like, I want to sound like I like bands, but really it's just rumours. Yeah. It's like the go-to 70s album. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I can get behind this.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And what's going to be your second song choice? The other one, I actually like this song, but I can imagine listening to it on repeat. It's DJ Alligator, The Whistle Song. What? I mean, if you haven't heard it, you can take the chance to educate yourself on that one. I recently, my flatmate Gabe loves DJ Alligator.
Starting point is 00:33:48 It's like ironically. And he was recently been listening to DJ Alligator. He just went to see him at Scarpa like a few months ago. And it's like, it's terrible, but it's sort of amazing. It's, yeah, he's so exaggerate, like such an exaggerated character that it, I don't know know it is amazing but it's one dimensional to say the least i don't i don't think i know this song i don't think i do how's it go it was it was in like i think it did quite well in the church in the 2000s i had never
Starting point is 00:34:20 heard of it before but it is quite a famous song but if once you hear it you'll you'll know why okay okay this is like constant whistle like you know like a sports whistle like oh no no no no yeah yeah cj elegates his story is he's like what's what's his story he's like he's like half iranian half swedish and he does's quite weird. He does like some sort of traditional Iranian songs, which are very different, like sound quite nice. And then some like ABBA covers. And then the other side of him is like full on hypersexual. Really? Yeah, it's very odd.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah. Okay. I'm actually intrigued to do a bit of digging after this and have a little look at dj alligator sure you watch the music videos because that was what um really sets it apart maybe if really plane had the also had the video on you could have that as your film choice yeah like a two and a half minute film a catalog catalog of dj alligator music videos yeah that's great okay i'm gonna check that out anything
Starting point is 00:35:26 repetitive like that anything like with uh like once that comes back around it's like swapping between that and dreams that is just pain i feel like okay i'm sorry that i've strong-armed you into doing two songs just because you're a band how basic of me no no of course we had we had we didn't have a film to be fair no okay great i could come up i could come up one but like you know a knife no i don't really want it it's fine i think we're pretty like safe with our films to be honest yeah unfortunately for you you've got dj alligator anthology of music videos chris martin enjoy um thank you very much boys and finally the island is overrun by the biggest dick of
Starting point is 00:36:07 all the animals which animal is it and why this is another this is quite like another personal one it comes from a personal place i love it general category aggressive geese yes okay i really dislike geese as an animal. I think they're weirdly aggressive for like, what other birds are like that? They're territorial, aren't they? They're very territorial. It particularly comes from,
Starting point is 00:36:34 I once looked after someone's goose. What do you mean? They went on holiday and they were like, is it all right if you look after my goose? And it was called Waldo. And it was just like, it's like goose on steroids it was like ill but it probably had fists it was doing like arm curls or whatever in the garden if you saw it that goes in the pub you wouldn't like too long yeah um yeah so i was looking after this goose and it was very icy underfoot and I remember my mum this is when I was like this is when I was a kid basically my mum was there and she was like
Starting point is 00:37:10 you just need I was terrified of the goose my mum was like you just need to show it who's boss so I ran at the goose slipped over on the ice right onto my arse and the goose went straight for my groin no really yeah and But then my mum came out like a superhero out of nowhere and just grabbed the goose by the neck. No. It was like a bad goose.
Starting point is 00:37:31 That's dinner. Yeah. So, yeah, I think scarred from that memory encounter the goose. You might actually see gooses on a desert island
Starting point is 00:37:40 maybe, I don't know. I don't, yeah, they migrate, don't they? Yeah. Desert islands. I don't know. They't yeah they migrate don't they yeah islands they fly long distances oh there's there's a there's like a a little um i guess i don't know if you call it it's a it is a river but it's kind of it doesn't stop but it's like becomes a little
Starting point is 00:37:58 mini little lake for a bit and then carries on and there's loads of geese near me and i as a as an adult man i'm an on edge as i walk past them you know okay but when there's like you know a good few you're like okay you cross the other side of the street yeah any amount i think is too many yeah you're like anti-goose yeah they're also, goose shit just smells so bad. Yeah. Oh, my God, yeah. I lived in York for a bit, and they have loads of geese there. And they kind of wander around the campus a lot,
Starting point is 00:38:36 because there's all these lakes and stuff. But they would also wander into town. So I do remember leaving clubs at, like, 4 in the morning and going onto, like like a high street, which is obviously like deserted and it's just full of geese. Oh, that's horrible. Your nightmare, surely.
Starting point is 00:38:53 You're off your head and you're battling geese on the way out. Not ideal. You're just looking for a kebab. And imagine you're walking past with a kebab and they're just trying to get it off you. Also, so you boys have done incredibly well geese is going to be your uh animal choice thank you so much for going through
Starting point is 00:39:10 your choices an excellent and hellish desert island much appreciated um so it's a very exciting time for you i feel like like how so you've got you've just really uh you've just announced the debut album and it's going to come out next May, you said? Yeah, May 3rd. Okay, and what's the build-up to that? From announcing the album, what happens between now and then? So we announced the album and alongside that, we also announced a tour that we're doing in May.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So we're going to be basically taking the album on the roads basically right after Take It Out. Yeah. And we got a few, we just released a single, the second single off the album with Wild Guests. So that came out yesterday. And then I think we've got a few more singles in the lead up to the album.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Yeah. We've got stuff very much in the pipeline in between now and the album coming out so we're going to be we're very happy to be very busy um so there'll be lots of chances for people to see um what we've been up to yeah but yeah we i think we're very excited about putting the well we are very excited about putting the album out and kind of getting back on the road uh in earnest really in may well i'm sure you've been writing stuff for a long time but you said it's been a year in the making like so is that songs that you've built up over time as a band and then you kind of
Starting point is 00:40:33 like was like right this is this is album time now we're gonna we're gonna be doing writing and recording how does it work yeah well like i think we had sort of half the songs sort of came in quick succession and it it was like beyond an ep and it was like well this is looking like an album um and like the sound of it was all coming together a lot more like electronic and dancey um and then some of the songs like they're sort of older songs that like weren't didn't really fit our old vibe like a more it was a more punky thing but now sort of now we've sort of all shifted a bit more poppy a bit more like indie they've sort of like found a new home on the album so it's sort of prising together like a patchwork
Starting point is 00:41:10 of old and new songs yeah it was it was there was definitely um a time of like trying to work out what we wanted to do with it and once we kind of came to an agreement then it was as you say it was like this nice challenge to re-examine a lot of the stuff that we'd previously just you know just ignored and uh yeah bringing it back into focus and reworking it and i think i mean we're really happy with how everything's turned out to be honest and uh kind of very interested to see what people will think when they hear it yeah that's cool and when you say you come to an agreement is it is it easy for you as a group it's six of you right so is it
Starting point is 00:41:50 easy for like you as a group to like work towards a goal or or is there like push and pull in different directions how's it how's it work i think with i think it's quite difficult i think we operate the same way most of like most creative projects of this size do, which is like essentially you just bicker endlessly and then you somehow all come to some agreement, basically. And I know that that might not be like the most efficient way of doing things, but it's it's working for us. Yeah, we got there in the end. Yeah. So, yeah. Oh, that's cool. No. and do you write parts and we're
Starting point is 00:42:26 gonna i'm asking loads of questions because i'm interested and do you write the parts separately and bring them together or are you in the room and try and work it out like how does it how does it work it varies in between songs really i mean we did this album over quite a long period of time so there was a lot of chances for us to critically analyze every part essentially and all see how you know what we thought we all worked um we were we all i think we all worked over the songs you know it wasn't it didn't feel very um you know kind of no one felt really limited to only thinking about exactly what they would be playing you know we imagined the bigger picture a lot yeah and typically it would be like we start it's not like we sit in a practice room
Starting point is 00:43:09 it's been very much more like production based it's like we come like we come with demos and then like then we flesh out from there like more like sort of like making like electronic music then like we're not we're sort of quite rubbish at just getting in a practice room and yeah making music that way which we used to do but it does um lend itself more towards sort of punk it's just it's just how we were doing things forever so when we still do it we just sound we just sound the same as we used to and so we tried to you know literally uproot things to put ourselves in a new headspace so and and and so you said to me before we started recording that you said right recorded parts diy did it yourself and then you took it to someone to mix
Starting point is 00:43:51 or do you have a producer on board how does that work so yeah kind of our guitarist is um he's a producer like by trade um producer engineer so we would go into like the studio in hackney called no change studios um and yeah he would basically run the sessions and we'd record everything there or even at home um and then once everything was like completely together in terms of like arrangement and stuff it would then go to a guy called andy savers um he's great he's um yeah he's mixed it sort of elevated everything to a pristine yeah he's been uh I guess like that that seventh Beatle in this case oh I feel affinity to you because I'm from Hertfordshire it's one of the home counties but you didn't form in the home counties, right? Was it Bristol?
Starting point is 00:44:45 Is that right? It depends. I mean, like the core of the band did form in the home counties. Oh, right. And under a different name and people have joined and left, you know, over time. And then when the band moved to uni, then it was in Bristol, which is, I guess, where technically... Well, that's where, yeah, we actually, because we're in a different band before, and then we,
Starting point is 00:45:09 like Home County started as a project when we were living in Bristol. So that's sort of, that feels like the, it was like the home of the project, really. Yeah. Now in London, we're like nomadic sort of band. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:45:23 No, I really can't wait to hear the album in full. And I'm looking forward to seeing you guys live at the next convenient time. Thank you so much for joining me, Will and Bill. Amazing. Thanks so much for having us. Yeah, thank you. Cheers, boys. Bye.

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