Desert Island Dicks - JOSH PUGH

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

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Hi, I'm James Deacon and welcome to Desert Island Dicks, the show that sees you marooned on a desert island after a plane crash with the worst people and worst things imaginable. Who they are and why they're a dick is up to our guest. And here to share their desert island dicks with us today is comedian Josh Pugh. Hello, Josh. Hi, James. How are you, man? I'm fine, thanks. How are you? Yeah, I'm good, mate.

Obviously, good to have been involved in a plane crash, but other than that, I'm in pretty good spirits. You're keeping your spirits up. I could just be marooned there. I don't think we even need the plane crash beforehand. Do you know what? I've always thought that in my mind. I could just likely drifted astray on a lilo

and found myself there, but no, it was a catastrophic air disaster. I'm happy with that. I'm going to be honest. We had to find ways to shoehorn in more elements and there's less you can do with a lilo. So when it's like, when it's a plane,

there's at least food and drink and other stuff. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's true. No, the format works, mate. The format works. How did you find choosing your people and things

for the Des Island? Quite tricky, actually. I found it quite tricky. There's not many people I don't like. I like, I will eat anything. I will drink anything.

I used to hate certain genres of music more than i do now because i used to go to nightclubs whereas now i don't do that stuff so i'm just and spotify just gives me what i like so you kind of but yeah so i'm not um i did find it a bit tricky but i've got some good ones i think let's dive in like who's going to be your first choice for the desert island so that the first person isn't a specific person okay but it's a group of people and that they are all the same so it could be it could be any one of them but online personal trainers oh this is good i i do not want any of those guys with me okay yes you know what when did personal, when did personal trainers,

when did personal trainers become life gurus? Your job is to tell me what exercises to do. I don't need, I don't need to be able to follow my dreams, to take stock,

to do gratitude lists. How many sit-ups should I be doing? That's your bit of the job. It kind of, they've become these kind of gurus. I'm like, who are you telling me what to,

just tell me what to do in the gym. I think it's because it's online. I think if it was, I don't think anyone's doing that in person. You know, I don't think anyone's on a treadmill and the PT's shouting, family's really important.

Why are you telling me that? Just tell me how fast to go it's so true do you think the internet must have must have ruined that i think it i think it must have done that thing yeah i kind of think it's the constant quest for content and to engage it's hard isn't it for a you know a personal trainer because you don't want to give too much away online because you still you still need to be needed and to have a service. So I can see why they do things other than fitness. But I just think if you're in that space,

that fitness space, your advice and your content should be about fitness. And, and, you know, not how to go about my day and to make, you know, how to be successful in business i don't want that

from you i'll go to a business person for that do you know what though having been to some gyms when i was younger and and witnessing like the personal trainers there i completely understand how they've got taken to the internet and use that platform to become that person does that make sense yeah totally because it's also's also on the gym floor. That's what they all talk about is on the gym floor. You're on the gym floor. I don't want to get away from that. You can only make so much money on the gym floor.

You want to get online. It's almost like a sales environment. It's almost like I have this client, I have this many clients per day, and I make this much money. I think it's my Instagram algorithm. I'm getting so many people telling me how to do online coaching to increase my portfolio. I don't know what any of it means or why I'm seeing it.

Have you ever had a personal trainer? No, I haven't. I haven't, but I've been to some exercise classes, and those guys are personal trainers, and they're quite nice ones. And all their content actually is just about the gym and the classes and promotions which I'm more, you know,

I'm happy to see that but I don't want, I don't want to feel like I'm in a pyramid scheme constantly because I want to do some press-ups. It's true. It's true. I get served that same content

and it's mad that like, they get served that same content and it's mad at the like and they get like a cult following and all of a sudden they have to be giving you life advice on top and it just seems bonkers to me yeah i've had a couple of um dms from like online coaches with like it must be like they send you like an offer something. In six weeks, I'll get you in the shape of your life. No, I don't want to. Do you know what I mean? For what? For what?

Shape of my life for what? You don't know what. But everyone's hustling. I get that. I mean, I feel like there was a point in my life when I was younger that I would be like, I would love to have been in the shape of my life. I've got a wife and two kids. They're going to take me as i am do you know what i mean i don't need to be in the shape of my life anymore yeah exactly as soon as you start cutting up putting rice into seven individual bits of tupperware you've gone in my opinion you've lost sight of

what's important in the world some beige chicken chicken and some chicken that's potted up. I don't know. But also on the desert island, they'd be the first people to go mentally. Do you think so? These people that preach positivity and all this, they're the first person. We've seen it in the pandemic.

They're the first person whose heads went. Yeah. It's kind of, it's not for us it's that that stuff to camera about following your dreams and being successful and using your time it isn't it's for them they're speaking to themselves they're not speaking to us it's true it's so it's for them yes because it all turned then it then turns to mental health content it's just like you need to get out for a walk and it's like their head's gone at that point yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah what led you to this war you've stormed out of the house is what's happening

so yeah i i yeah i don't want any of those guys with me okay okay i suppose an ancient you know i'm quite a quiet guy, you know, and reserved. It's like the equivalent of being sat on the pool and somebody trying to get you up to do, let's play crazy loco bingo or let's play, I just want to sit on the sun lounger, mate, and sweat. You don't need that. At least that enthusiasm when you're first there on the island,

like, come on, guys. Yeah, let's get this. Let's make a medicine ball. Right. I'm going to chuck this at your face. No, actually, I'd rather just cry and hope that something eats me soon. A hundred percent. Okay. Right. They're straight on. Right. Thank you. And who's going to be your second choice? Second person is a specific person. Okay. It is TV money expert, Martin Lewis. Interesting choice. I don't know if I've heard of martin lewis on here before please tell me why so he is he's a tv money expert

who gives you know helps people save money on their energy bills or insurances or you know how to get your will in order. And the information he gives is brilliant. But the way he delivers the information makes me anxious. Okay. It's like he's been told in his ear, we're going to commercial break in four seconds. And he just rattles off all this information. And I just feel like I'm being attacked by birds.

It's true. It's so true. I don't know why he has to say it like that i think it's like a deliberate i think it's like a deliberate ploy to sound this is important get it while you can yes okay but it creates a sense of urgency in me like i'm watching the tv nine o'clock at night i'm like i need to phone edf now it puts it puts it out it sends me to bed anxious it's so true i've never thought of that before but it is the whole thing is constant pace pace pace right get this move your money move your credit card now i don't have a credit card get a credit card pay it off move your money around do it now yes i'm with you it's that and also the advice is so convoluted it's that it's take out

a credit card in in your partner's name, max it out, pay it off, max it out again, cut it up, pay it off. I'm like, oh, God, what is this? I don't know what's going on, yeah. I just find it really stressful. And yeah, he knows what he's doing. He feels city.

He feels a bit salesy. And the tone just makes me quite anxious. I'm with you. Yeah. And I feel like it wouldn't be much fun. I feel like it wouldn't be much fun on a stag do. No, it wouldn't. Just transfer your deposit, Martin.

Don't worry about it. He's flying via Frankfurt. You save an eight quid. Just come with a group yeah just go it's true and I mean

all this stuff it's great advice but you know if you ever tried using a voucher somewhere a discount voucher somewhere

so it's some 17 year old kid on a student job and you hand them a sheet of A4 and they've got some kind of it's just

they just don't need it they just don't need it at work, do they? They feel bad. And they treat you with utter contempt once they know you've got a voucher in that place. It's like they give you a separate menu. Yes, it's true. It's true. And they're not bringing out the dessert menu

because they know you're tight as anything. Do you know what I mean? They're like, don't bother with him. He's not going to get a coffee at the end. Yeah. That's literally it. I think they can like they're like that don't bother with him he's not getting a coffee at the end yeah that's literally I think they can just see you just look at you think oh yeah this this guy

that's what he can get which I am which I am to be fair it's a fair assessment if anything that's the only reason to watch the show yeah I mean as I say the information is great I

just wish you'd I wish ITV would give him 45 minutes instead of 30 minutes that's the same same amount give us the same amount but just have a sit down in between yeah we'll have I wish ITV would give him 45 minutes instead of 30 minutes. Same amount. Give us the same amount. But just have a sit down in between. Or have a bit of a chit chat with your co-host.

It's true. It's true. Like just have a bit of nonsense chat. Do you know what I mean? Maybe have a guest. Maybe you could go on and just do a little turn for like a few minutes. Just a bit of light stuff. The way it

makes me feel like i've got a gas leak in my hat if i had a gas leak in my house i would speak with less urgency than he speaks about getting two for one at pizza express it's true it's so true that is excellent okay martin lewis he just stressed he just stresses me he's stressful although you know he's trying he's trying to do a great thing for everyone, but maybe you're right. It does need to be calmed down a little bit. And I don't think you need that energy on the desert island either. No, you don't.

Actually, to be fair, maybe it'd be quite good. At least he'd have some urgency to try and get you off the island. Yeah, he would. He's probably there on purpose or some kind of offshore investment thing. He might be, yeah. He's taken out a million travel insurance for 20 quid. Make sure you're

at all protected. Get yourself involved in a plane crash. Claim back on that. You can get that as a voucher or cash back in your account. I'm like, Martin, just have a minute, mate. Have a coconut. The next time you'll get first class for 100 quid. Off you go. Brilliant.

Yeah. I love that. Okay. Yes, this is great. All right. Okay. So far, creating a hellish island experience for yourself. Josh, who's going to be your third choice? So it's again, it's a type of person. But again, it's all the same person it's it's furniture furniture salesman specifically so i've had to i've moved house i've had to buy a bed and a sofa separately on two separate occasions and you kind of you kind of walk in and just from nowhere a guy jumps out at you with some kind of like an ipad on a strap, and it's like, oh God,

we're into it now, and he straight away is, you know, what are you looking for? Well, obviously a bed, obviously a bed, what,

what do you think, I'm in a bed, you know, table for two please, obviously, obviously a bed, and it's kind of they can't just leave you to it

they say they say I'll leave you to brows but they're not really leaving you to it they're just kind of you can see them watching you around

the store and they kind of just keep coming to you they kind of keep every bed they've got every bed I've got this one I've got this one

at home that's I think that's going to sway I've got this at home my wife loves it I can't get out of bed I've got this one I've got this one at home that's I think that's going to sway I've got this at home my wife loves it I can't get out of bed I can barely get out of bed in the morning

I've got this at home the next one I've got this at home how many bedrooms you got in your house tell me you've got seven beds you've been past

you look down it's that little bed that's the shape of a children's car yeah this I've got this I love this

yeah because it is a big it's not like buying a children's car. Yeah, this, I've got this, I love this. It is a big, it's not like buying a car, but it's still a big, it's still a big outlay, you know, a bed. It is something you take a bit of care over the decision. And kind of, it's just, I just want it on my terms a bit. I want to have a look, I want to go to the desk. I don't want, because I will would just you put enough pressure on me oh yeah i will buy it because i'm i'm weak i've got no backbone which don't tell me you've got no backbone because then they'll take

it to a special mattress for spot you know just i don't need a special right now they're just kind of and then they do the um the admin bit at the end and then they start reading you out terms and conditions and trying to sell you insurances and mattress protectors yeah i i know what you mean so you're there and it's just like i don't want a 24 tog duvet for 200 quid do you know i mean i'm going to go to b&m straight after this and get myself a duvet. I've just spent two and a half grand on a bed. Yeah, 100%. And it's kind of what one guy said he was going to work. So they give you the top price.

You know, it's 1,500 pounds. You're like, let's see what we can do. And it's like, oh, God, it's like 1,350. I'm like, oh, yeah. And I think they want you to be like, oh, thank you so much. Yeah. As if we don't know how sales work. As if we think that first price is the best price.

Also, it's not surprising information when they tell you that there's a sale on because those places always have a sale on. They're like, oh, we have a sale on. Let me check. It's just like you live off having a sale on. You never not have a sale on. I don't know It's just like you live off having a sale on. You never not have a sale on. I don't know what it is.

It's insane. I get it. I mean, I get it. The problem with commission and all this stuff. I kind of just, yeah, I don't know. I just, I treat them with suspicion really. And they're just, they're constantly trying to relate to you. Yes.

You know, oh, I know exactly how you feel. No, however you, whatever you say you feel and think, they will completely empathise with it. You could say know i just want i want i want a bed i can just you know just wrestle just wrestle my dad on this bed but yeah i'm the same we're totally the same yeah yeah they just they'll just relate to anything you say yeah you could be just say yeah like i could really see myself tugging myself senseless on that and they're like yeah that's what i'd do as well yeah i really would actually yeah yeah no i'm the same i'm the same i'm terrible for it yeah yeah it's a bunk bed ian talking myself senseless

it's a bunk bed ian okay yeah i feel like um yeah and i feel like one of the funniest things i've heard on this podcast is the ipad on a strap because there is no other place where they'd have an ipad on a strap what are you doing with the strap on the ipad why do they have that and they start with it on the hip and i whip it around to the front of my car just it's like i don't know it's yeah it's not a bloody you know it's it's mad yeah it's kind of, it's mad. Yeah, it's kind of, it's just too much for me. And because I'm a sucker as well, I will, I want them to like me. That's what's pathetic about it.

I want them to like me. I want this guy in a pair of espadrilles and an iPad on a strap to think I'm a good person. I'm the same. It's pathetic. It's totally pathetic. And they always get me when they say, they'll say, I shouldn't really tell you this.

And I'm like, oh God, here we go. I'm loving it. Yeah, I'm getting the special treatment here. They must really like me. I shouldn't really tell you this, but this is the best bed in the store. I shouldn't really say that. I shouldn't really say that,

but yeah, it gets me. It's so good. It's so good. So untrustworthy as well. On that island, it's like the facade is going to drop quite quickly, right? And I don't want to ruin this for you but like they are starting with really like being like josh i really understand how you feel on the island i i feel exactly the same do you know what

we'll get through this together that's only going to last for so long yeah i think i think all the similarity between all three of them they're, they're all bringing quite a similar energy. They're not really letting me have my time or my terms, which I think is what I would not like. They're all kind of in your face. Because I want to be liked by all three of them. The problem is actually me. There's nothing wrong with these people.

The issue is me the other three would be absolutely fine like you just shouldn't be there that's so good yeah yeah josh thank you very much now mercifully among the wreckage of the plane there was some food and drink left over unfortunately for you it's your least favorite food and drink in the world what are they and why are they so bad my food is food first yeah food is a chicken wrap for mcdonald's oh i don't know if you ever had one of these i've kind of because as a comedian you're out you know late at night all the time and i try to try to be healthy where i can and sometimes the only thing option is mc night all the time and trying to be healthy where we can. And sometimes the only option is McDonald's. Like, I'll try and be healthy.

I'll have a McDonald's wrap. But clearly the McDonald's chicken wrap is so far down the pecking order on items that the staff put time and energy into. It is just, it's abysmal. It comes in some weird cardboard thing. You open it. I mean, it shouldn't even be called a wrap because it's abysmal it comes in some weird cardboard thing you open it and i mean it shouldn't even be called a wrap because it's not wrapped it's stuffed it's just stuffed into a cardboard thing it just falls apart and it's like ah and because i didn't even want that really i wanted i wanted a big mac and a mcflurry but i was trying to be healthy and have this. And it's just terrible. And they can do it.

They can make stuff. They can do their whole thing is making crap food tasty. So why haven't you done it with this? I just go for the same thing. I always get a Big Mac. I can't think that I've ever had one. Yeah, I think you can kind of tell that McDonald's have been told,

get some healthy stuff on your menu. And they've kind of done it. Yes, okay. They've kind of done it with their arse in their hands. They're like, we've got a lunch. There's a wrap. There's a chicken wrap there. They're like,

is it just that they haven't, it's like it has no sauce and nothing else in it is that what's going on it's just the ingredient and also the way a wrap kind of unfurls it's just kind of like it's just kind of pathetic you can see all the ingredients

from what it is it's kind of so bleak you know you're in a service station late at night you open the cardboard thing it just kind of unfolds the you know you're in a service station later at night you open the cardboard thing it just kind of unfolds the wrap's flat and there's a bit of chicken

a bit of lettuce and a bit of oh this is this is not good it's just so disappointing yeah I've done so much

to not order the thing I actually want to have this healthy thing and it's just like you've you haven't done your side of the bargain and it's not even that healthy surely it's not that healthy it's I don't think that yeah I think in McDonald's it's okay but I think anywhere else it's no it's probably the worst thing on the menu anywhere else I think I think um I think on the island, that is going to be just daily disappointment, right?

So say this plane was, it's not going to be, I don't know why I'm even saying this, but say this plane was one that served McDonald's, because we've got to say that for this. Every day you go and get that wrap and you're like, yes, I need something to eat. And it's just daily disappointment. Yeah, well, that's the thing. It is, it's your expectation of going, you're like, I'm I need something to eat and it's just daily disappointment. Yeah, well, that's the thing. It's your expectation going, you're like, I'm going to have a McDonald's,

but you're not really. I actually don't think it's McDonald's. I actually don't think, I think that's literally, that's someone's side project. It works there. Let me do a couple of wraps. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And you do the wraps.

It's, yeah. Even on the touchscreen thing, the touchscreen menus, it's not even on the front page of that. It's not even on the second page. It's like buying something off the third page on Google. It's just not – the quality's not there. I am tempted to try one next time I go, but I might order it. This is making me sound very fancy.

I'm going to order it on top of what I'm already going to order so I can try that first. Yeah, don't pin any hopes on the wrap at all, would be my advice. Okay, I won't. I'm just diving into something that you asked. When you're out as a comedian and you're touring, I guess you're playing and then you might be hungry afterwards or even on the way there,

are you stopping at loads of service stations all the time? I'm quite good. I always take a packed lunch. What I do, mainly because I'm a tight arse, mainly because I try to be healthy, but I'll just have a spaghetti by minute. So it's three in the afternoon here.

I say that as if we're not in the same country, as in it's three o'clock. I've just had, I've had my dinner. I've had my big dinner. I've had my spaghetti bovine. Then I take a packed lunch to my gig. So try and be good. But what I usually have after gigs, I like a milkshake.

I like one of the fridge milkshakes yeah nice that's what that's that's my little treat really because it's a slippery slate you can even you know you can easily get just rot your insides doing this job yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'll bet i'll bet what about drinking do you or i guess are you driving yourself to these things so you've got to drive there and back no so no so you know I don't drive because you know I don't see I can't see well

so I don't drive so I could drink I could drink every night if I wanted to but I don't I try on a Saturday

I might have if there's a nice beer at the gig I'll have a nice beer but very rarely but you can easily do it you can easily do it in Edinburgh

when you're there for the month and everybody's just doing the gig and then walking back to their digs you can easily do it. You can easily do it. In Edinburgh, when you're there for the month and everybody's just doing the gig and then walking back to their digs, it can get, you know, it can be a bit of a month-long stag do there if you're not careful. I remember going up in 2019 and I made the big decision,

I'm not having PR, I'm not having a publicist. It costs too much money. It's a waste of money. And then I got there and spent two grand on Starva Prima. So you can easily go down that pitfall definitely oh that's good well okay yeah i like that you have your big meal earlier on and then you take a packed lunch with you what's going in the packed lunch i love a. Yes. I love a ham and cheese and spinach bagel with some snacky jack crisps, a bit of fruit

and a little cereal bar. And I want to get a nice cup of tea from Costa or something. Oh, that's great. Now you're talking. It's very rock and roll, right? No, but this sounds good. So I know you used to play football, right? Do you still play football?

Yeah, I still do. I still do, yeah. I've been still playing the last couple of years, holding on. Oh, right. So you want to stay in shape. You want to do that as well. Yeah, that's kind of my thing.

I kind of, but also I love food. I'm a big food person. Once I start, my old house used to come in through the kitchen and it was the end of me, really. I kind of couldn't walk past the fridge. You know, late at night you've got... Because stand-up, obviously, you've given a lot of... You use a lot of adrenaline.

Your body thinks it needs to refuel. So you do get hungry and crave sugar and all this stuff so you can easily do it. Oh, yeah. Which I try not to try not to yeah oh great okay yeah um on that note um what's going to be your drink choice my drink choice um and it's not it's not even a big ranty one it's just i just don't like prosecco oh interesting okay yeah i don't i don't like the taste of prosecco i kind of um

it's too fizzy it's too fizzy for me and i i have to go to things you know weddings or me and my wife would go for an afternoon tea or a spa day and it's kind of seen as it's some you know on a good occasion on a special occasion or some good news people give you a prosecco and i'm like oh this is horrible it's very heartburny just heartburny very gassy going down i just i kind of you know it's probably not for me is it it's probably not for 34 year old dads to be drinking but it just it doesn't feel right in my body i would i would never i would never have one at home or like choose one specifically but funnily enough just before we came on i told you that i saw you live at hackney empire and me and my wife got a bottle of prosecco yeah yeah just waiting for it

yeah also i feel like where is it where's it come from 10 years ago it wasn't it didn't exist for seconds it feels like it's come out of nowhere. I feel ambushed by it. No, it's true. It's true. Now there's a Prosecco epidemic. I just find it a bit difficult to drink. I think when I think I want to like chug,

I want to chug. If I'm drinking alcohol, I want to really get it down, right? Yes. And I think Prosecco, you have to sip a fine wine. I think the best way to enjoy it, with Prosecco, you can't physically drink it any other way. You have to sip it. You're right.

You're right. I think I'm the same, and I think that's probably where I'm going wrong, because you get Prosecco and you drink it at the same speed you're drinking a beer. And also, it's not really Prosecco mood, is it? Just different maroons no you could use it as a tool to kind of get you through the days maybe but that that in itself is quite dangerous yeah i think so also what's that going to do to your insides if that's the only drinkable liquid oh you're going to be terrible you're going to be

a bit you're absolutely going to be absolutely rotten between mcdonald's wraps and prosecco oh your guts are gonna be oh you're struggling you're struggling there really really bad um okay prosecco is going to be your drink choice thank you very much josh now josh fortunately you won't be without entertainment on the island the planes entertainment system continues to work but just your luck it only has two working settings one is your least favourite film of all time and the other is your least favourite song what are they

and why so this isn't my least favourite song and it's a song I actually like at the moment okay but I can already

see the narrative arc for this song have you heard a song called Lil Boothang Lil Boothang no Lil Boothang

by Paul Russell Lil Boothang no Lil Boothang Lil Boothang Lil Boothang. No. Lil Boothang by Paul Russell. Lil Boothang, no. Lil Boothang. Lil Boothang. It's really catchy. Really catchy. And I just noticed, as somebody that works in entertainment,

in the entertainment field, it's so catchy that producers and advertising agencies won't be able to help themselves. That song is going to get, it's going to be everywhere. It's going to drive people nuts. But currently, it's a good song.

Right. Remember how, remember the song, Here Come the Girls? Yeah. Here come the girls. Girls, girls. Yeah, that's it. Every advertising campaign for a female product.

Yeah. Use that every time a woman walked onto a chat show, she'd come out to that. Yeah. Just it's such, it's so the obvious choice for a TV production person to put on something. And this, this has got the same kind of feel to it.

And I just know they're going to spoil it. Right, okay. I really can't wait to hear this song. I used to put a little clip of the song into the podcast until someone told me I could get in trouble for that. So I've stopped doing that. But I urge you to go and have a listen after you've listened to this. But I'm going to have a listen as well.

I like that you can see the future of it becoming incredibly annoying. And you know what? So I see, I saw the guy on Instagram and he's quite important. So he's a lovely guy and he's like collabed on lots of other songs. And this is his first single. And he's like, I'll get,

go and get, go and get it where you get your music or whatever. And he's just such a lovely guy. And he's like, go and get it where you get your musical, whatever. And he's just such a lovely guy. And I think, I just don't want, everyone's going to hate him

in about six weeks. It's not his fault. It's not his fault the song's catchy. It's everyone else are going to play it to death and ruin it for him. Do you?

This is, yeah. The foresight is, is very good I think I don't want it to happen to this guy I've seen a similar thing happen with Happy by Pharrell

right did you see that you know that one and it's like everyone's mum's ringtone 10 years on change your ringtone also it's like everyone's mum's ringtone 10 years on and I've changed your ringtone mum

also it's it's bad news it might be bad news you're getting over the phone and the ringtone doesn't match

no it doesn't well how did you first discover this song this Lil Booth song it was on it was actually on an advert

it was on an Instagram advert for that song and you can see the audio and I went and I bit my dad in the rabbit hole reading about this guy and actually it's so catchy it's lovely, it's such a feel good summer song it's got a crush

kids are going to love it it's going to be at every kids disco and actually I'm just perpetuating the problem by bringing it up on this podcast on kid it's got a crossover with kids are gonna love it it's gonna be every kid's disco it's gonna be you know and actually i'm just perpetuating the problem by bringing it up on this podcast if anything but yeah it's gonna be really overexposed i'm looking forward to thousands of downloads though when people say that josh pube called it first that's what i'm looking forward to yeah yeah um what do you usually listen to what music are you into I like lots of stuff really

I like I like I like bands I like guitar music I like Rolling Stones Oasis Arctic Monkeys

Bob Dylan yeah yeah I like Fleetwood Mac you know all that kind of stuff really so this song is kind of out of your usual wheelhouse.

Yeah, which is another thing. I'm ashamed of myself for how much I do actually like it. There are songs, though, that are so catchy. Do you remember that song, Sexual by Naked? Did you ever hear that one? Yeah. I was addicted to that song, and it got to the point where my wife was like if you keep playing that song i'm gonna leave you um but it's just certain songs they can be from like they

can be extremely pop if you know it's good yeah well that's that's this really it's kind of um it feels you can imagine the first time the execs heard that they just saw the door of science. Talk about catchy. Honestly, James, listen after this and message me. I will. It's like pure sugar in your ears. Oh, I can't wait. Okay, Lil Boothang. Anything else on Lil Boothang before we leave that on the island?

No, that's good for me. Okay, what's going to be your film choice? Mr. Bean's Holiday. Mr. Bean's Holiday. Oh, Mr. Bean's Holiday. Oh, my God. Have you seen this film, James? I'm just going to Google, because I have seen the Mr. Bean films. Is Mr. Bean's Holiday the one where he destroys the painting?

No, that's Mr. Bean movie, I think. Oh, no. Mr. Bean's Holiday, I mean, most information's in the title itself, really. Mr. Bean goes on holiday. Yes, no. Mr Bean's holiday. I mean, most information's in the title itself, really. Mr Bean goes on holiday. Yes, okay. I'm looking at a few pictures, a few stills. I have seen this. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Firstly, he hasn't got a job, so what's he going on holiday for? It's my first thing. He's the happiest, most non-deep-thinking person that's ever walked the face of the earth. He doesn't need a holiday. That's my first problem with it.

Secondly, the film, again, it makes me anxious. He misses every step of the way this holiday goes wrong. I know it's a farce. I know that's what the genre of comedy is. But every step, he loses his suitcase. Then he gets on the plane and the plane gets on the wrong flight

he ends up in the wrong place and he misses the transfer then he takes he takes the wrong suitcase back to his hotel and then he gets locked out of his hotel room

I'm like this is this is this man is so painful yeah needs stopping I can't I said I't I said

I think I said to my friend I went with my mates when I was like 19 you know what I was like if he misses one more motor transport I'm walking out of here

it was giving me anxiety yeah I know what you mean it's it's like you just want something to go right it's just like

why not every single thing can't go wrong. Yeah, that's what I was like. Please just give me something. I used to watch the sitcom Black Books. Yes, I did, yeah. A brilliant sitcom, but I wanted him to sell a book i just wanted the business to be a success it's true it's true i was like this guy's i want you to make a living i want you to do well you should go and sell a book and yeah turn your life around

i think i kind of i'm too empathetic to these characters i'm like this guy is he's going to come back with this idea more stress than he went away but I know that's what it is, I know that's what Mr Bean's whole shtick is, messing things up and slapstick but also just this is you know this is stressful It's so stressful to watch yeah

I mean my kids like to watch the Mr Bean cartoon but I can't really do it when it's on I can't really do it yeah just like when it's on I can't really be around it's just come on come on

do him a favour yeah somebody help this guy out it's great and I think after a while you're not going to be able you're not going to be able

to watch this anymore this is the only thing you can watch on the island that is that's yeah that's and also it's holiday based as well

like your island is going wrong mate I'm on a there's an island with Martin Lewis. So actually, my island... Don't speak to me about how my island has gone wrong. Think I had this in mind. Eating McDonald's wraps and drinking Prosecco

with some personal trainer. Oh, it's good. It is good. Josh, and finally, the island is overrun by the biggest dick of all the animals. Which animal is it and why? I mean, I'm sure you've had this one before, James, but I'm putting cockapoos on there. I don't know if we have, but please, go on.

Tell me about the cockapoo. I think they just represent everything that's wrong with society. They're just kind of... People have a cockapoo. They say, I don't want a dog that molts, they're just kind of people have a cockapoo I don't want a dog that molts so I'm going to get a cockapoo they're animals

how much do you want to domesticate these animals they're already living in houses dogs aren't supposed to be in houses really and now this dog's been bred so they don't get fur on your shagpaw carpet and i just is that yes yes that's what people have a cockapoo is it a cock a spaggett with a poodle

and if you cross something with a poodle it means that they don't lose the hair so they get they get the fluffy appearance but they don't they don't march and it's kind of become like a gateway dog so you usually if you used to you know if you wanted a dog you kind of you'd accept your house is going to smell a little bit you're going to get wet walking in you know you kind of with these cockapoos it's kind of made dog ownership easier which is open up to more people people that wouldn't have usually had dogs so like i i used to you know i used to walk my dog and i'd get chat to somebody like an old boy with a whippy and have a stick and a wax jacket on i'm like oh yeah this is what i wanted from dog ownership now it's like

a young couple with fake teeth gilet and a starbucks in each hand and this cockapoo this isn't what dog walkers are to me yes I'm with you now I know what it is I didn't really understand before I don't have a dog so I didn't know I see a lot of like yes exactly that

person these people are always going we should get a dog when really they're, they're both thinking we should have a baby and they get the dog and then they have, then they have a baby. And so there's always someone chaotically walking around with a pram whilst the cockapoo basically drags one of one side of them along.

Yeah. I mean, again, you know, the lovely little dogs and all this, and I can see why you don't want, you know, a big dog,

you know, getting through dog, you know, getting through all over your house. But I just think dogs have come so far into our world. If just let them molt a little bit and just get the oover out. Yeah. They're not for me. And also everyone I've met hates me. I think that's what it is.

That's what all comes down to. They don't like me, these cockapoos. They're kind of, my mum's got, my mum's got one, and it will not come near me. Really? Why? I've no idea.

It's just took against me. I don't know if it's seen my stuff online or what, but it just doesn't want to know me. Well, it's not going to get any closer to you if it hears this. Out of interest, what dog do you have? I've got a Staffordshire Bull Terrier Rescue. Oh.

He's a good dog. You know, people don't like those breeds. Everybody has a breed of dog they don't like. I'd personally rather have, I'd rather have six XL Bullies next door to me

than one Cockapoo. And I mean that. No you don't. But do you know what I mean it's just if you want a cockapoo I have a cockapoo of course but it's we want a dog that doesn't molt that's what I don't like

you're in it for the wrong reasons if you're more bothered about that a dog is a big commitment and it gives you so much so yeah cockapoos but if if if my mom's come up to me tomorrow and started licking my face and loving me i'll probably change my mind that's how fickle i am james that's how pathetic i am yeah okay and if the island was overrun with these animals uh then you're gonna have a lot of animals that just just hate you yeah anywhere near you yeah so that's i don't think i'll cope with that i'd rather be attacked by a dog than kind of it'd be just indifferent to me emotionally

i don't think you'd be able to deal with that. Yeah, I'd struggle. Josh, thank you so much. This has been great. I really appreciate you coming on. Thank you, James, mate. Thanks for having me. Oh, no, you're very welcome.

Thank you so much for coming on. Josh, like you've got a lot of stuff going on, it feels like at the minute. And two of the main things that I could see, maybe we've only got two things going on, but in your career, I see that you're going on, but in your career, mate, in your career, I see that you're,

you're going on tour next year. Yeah, I'm back out on tour from February through to June. That is a big old tour. Yeah, it is big, mate. I'm going to more places than I did last time.

The show is a different show to the one you saw. It's a new show for 2024. It's really good it's called existing la vida loca which is kind of about you know not always enjoying things as much as i should as you know you're not as a common theme you've probably picked up from my answers on this but um yeah the show is wicked mate i'm really looking forward to doing it that's great and you've got a podcast as well i don know, we weren't going to talk about the podcast, but you've seen the podcast,

is it called Cult Heroes? Yeah, it's Josh Pugh's Cult Heroes, so it's kind of, it's not really a comedy podcast, it's just, people I find really interesting, and have had interesting careers,

and done interesting things, we just get on mine, and I just, basically pepper them with questions, for an hour, it's just nice, easy listening really, three episodes have come out.

It comes out every Wednesday. Yeah, so you had Bobby Seagull on there. Bobby Seagull, legend, mate. Great guy. You should get him on air. He's great. I'd love to. Yeah, I remember that season of University Challenge,

Bobby Seagull and Eric Monkman. That was very good. Great name, that Eric Monkman. A lot of season K's in nice places there there is

there is you're right it looks a great podcast who have you got coming up so we've got we've recorded

an episode with Peter Serenovic we've got Hugo I think the next one that comes out is Emily

Juniper she's a book borrower she's an artist she's so interesting she does Tim Key's books I believe

she does yeah she illustrates Tim Key's books and borrows them that's so cool it's such a good idea for a podcast well I look forward

to listening oh thank you mate Josh thank you very much thank you James thanks so much man