Desert Island Dicks - SHIT-FACED SHAKESPEARE: DAVID ELLIS
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Hi, I'm James Deacon and welcome to Desert Island Dicks, the show that sees you marooned on a desert island after a plane crash with the worst people and worst things imaginable.
Who they are and why they're a dick is up to you.
And here to share their desert island dicks with us today is David Ellis from Shitface Shakespeare.
Hello. How are you doing?
I'm fine. How are you?
Yeah, very good.
Good. Well, welcome. Thank you very much for coming in.
My pleasure. My pleasure. I'm glad to be here.
So you're from a Shakespeare company called Shitface Shakespeare.
Yes. So, yeah, the actual company is called Magnificent Bastards Company.
We've done a very clever thing of making sure
that there's a swear word
in both our company name
and the name of the show
to make it really hard
for us to get
any sort of marketing out there.
Yeah,
you can't use it anywhere.
Any sort of adverts
on the tube,
no, forget about it.
Emails getting sent
to the spam,
yeah.
Oh, really?
So, yeah,
the email,
sorry,
the company is
Magnificent Bastard Productions
and we do a show called Shit-Faced Shakespeare.
Okay.
And the premise of it is that we do
an entirely serious Shakespeare play
with an entirely shit-faced actor.
And what that will be is that we do
an abridged version of a Shakespeare play.
We've got a few that we do on rotation.
The one that we're going out on tour to
at the end of the year
is Midsummer Night's Dream and we're doing
Hamlet in Leicester Square at the moment
and Macbeth up in Edinburgh. So we'll
do a condensed version of those Shakespeare
plays, normally with five or
six actors in the cast and also a
compere that kind of oversees events and kind of
introduces the concept at the beginning of the show
and then four hours
before the show, one member of the cast and one member alone
will start drinking a drink of their choice.
Just one person?
One person, which is, I don't know,
it's one of those things,
I think when people first start,
they're like, so I've got to be hammered
and everyone around me is going to be completely sober.
But I kind of look forward to it now.
Do you?
I just get to have everyone look after me.
It's great.
Is that what happens?
So sort of the more drunk you get,
everyone else has to sort of pitch in to make yours.
Oh yeah.
You're not just like left in the room with a bottle of spirits.
Right.
Sort yourself out.
We'll see you at Kern Cup.
We'll see you at Kern Up.
How drunk are you getting?
Are you getting like paralytic,
like really,
really drunk?
So we say that,
you know,
the point where you're at a house party and you feel like you're the life and soul of the party.
We want to be.
We want to get people just before that,
just before we put them out on stage.
Because there's also the adrenaline factor as well.
That's a huge factor.
Oh, of course.
We never actually do any drinking for our auditions.
We do quite rigorous auditions where we interview people as well
and go, what is this person going to be like?
But we'll never know for sure until we put them out on stage.
The adrenaline is such a massive factor in it.
Oh, my God.
That's great.
So we don't want people so hammered that they can't speak and can't walk.
But we need them to be, like, feeling very naughty, mischievous.
Their inhibition's gone.
Yes.
And just, you know, up for a good time.
Ready to mess about a bit.
Yeah.
Yeah, this is really good.
And I think before we go into this, because the listeners are listening, being like,
okay, I can't wait to hear who David has chosen.
What's your drink of choice?
Do you know what? I've drunk loads. I've drunk. I started on rum and then that was dangerous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, more recently it's been tequila, but I'll get into that a bit later on.
That might be one of my things.
OK, OK. All right. All right. OK. OK.
We've got an idea.
Quite often at the moment just vodka soda lime
nice and light nice and refreshing not too heavy you know because i don't know whether that's true
about the whole thing that the darker the drink the worse the hangover i think that well i would
say there might be something in that yeah certainly like red wine and rum you can get pretty vicious
yeah yeah for sure yeah and then beer is also quite. Yeah. It just depends on the person.
I could never drink beer or wine before a show because it makes me too sleepy.
But there are people that do it.
So on tour, I guess you've got to rotate.
But like someone is always drunk and then someone's always hungover.
Which they're kind of like, we joke that they're the unsung hero of the show.
Because it never gets announced unless the drunk person decides to do so. But's never part of the show that we go and by the way that person
was drunk last night so if they're a bit slow tonight yeah okay i'm with you put two and two
together so yeah but it's that's a challenge in all by itself i should have left this to the end
but like the one more question yeah um is because of the nature of the show so you're drinking in
the show yes does that mean that you go out and drink more
after the shows no so we have a thing after the show's called water hour which is exactly what
it sounds in that when you finish the show we all finish the show by being given a beer by the
compare and doing a toast to the audience nice but the second we get backstage that gets grabbed
out of the drinker's hand replaced by a bottle of water and they monitored and given water until
and bought food oh so you have to be controlled
because of the nature that's great and again at some point because it always happens someone'll
be like oh can i have a drink am i off water hour yeah and we go yeah okay you're off water hour
but you remember easy yeah remember how much you drank earlier and we've all done it because like
you wake up the next morning and the hangovers from those nights are horrific because you've
you've effectively got drunk twice in a day.
Yeah.
You got drunk, sobered up, and then got drunk again.
And honestly, I feel...
It sounds great, though.
It sounds really good.
I can't wait to see it.
Yeah, yeah.
It's amazing.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
Okay, we'll talk more about the tour at the end.
Cool.
David, let's dive in.
Who's going to be your first choice?
So my first choice is going to be Hamlet.
Hamlet?
Hamlet.
Yeah.
So Hamlet is who I'm playing Hamlet. Hamlet? Yeah.
So Hamlet is who I'm playing at the moment in the West End.
And it's one of those weird parts that for actors,
it's a really coveted part, isn't it? Yeah.
So this is the thing that I'm choosing Shakespeare characters for this.
And you've had fictional characters on the show.
Yeah, yeah.
It's absolutely fine, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So definitely Hamlet.
What have you discovered about Hamlet then by playing Hamlet?
He's just miserable, isn't he?
So Hamlet is like the king of indecision.
Like the whole play happens because you've got the whole to be or not to be.
Like that is one of the most famous.
If you ask people for a Shakespeare quote, nine times out of ten, I'd say,
your average member of Joe Public,
they're going to say, to be or not to be.
And in fact, playing Hamlet at the moment in the West End,
the amount of time...
I'll just say it and I know it's going to happen.
So after I go to be or not to be, I just leave a little pause.
And you get people, you'll get like a...
Or you'll get a cheer.
Oh, right, OK.
People are so responsive with it but that is
that is our boy hamlet in a nutshell really like to be or not to be like he's so
caught up between like does he follow through with an action or does he not um that the whole play
how do you know hamlet not that well at. So the whole thing starts with him being visited by the ghost of his
dad. His dad turns up and goes
all the GCSE
still coming back
turns up and goes effectively
your uncle has murdered me
you must take revenge.
He says it a bit better than that.
Somewhere in my head I know the lines
for it. What does he go?
Mark me, my hour has almost come
when I to sulfurous and tormenting flames
must render, I could go on.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
But in a nutshell, that's it.
That's it.
So he turns up and he goes,
your uncle's killed me.
He killed me by dripping poison in my ear
when I was sleeping in an orchard.
You go and have your revenge,
but don't do anything to your mum.
I'll see you later.
That's essentially what he says.
And that happens right at the start
and Hamlet is
Shakespeare's
longest play
and he literally
at any point
he could have gone
okay yeah fair enough
I'll go and have a chat
with Claudius
I'll go and have a chat
with my uncle
I'll get to the bottom
of this
and he doesn't
he doesn't
and he spends the whole play
doing this thing
he puts on this
antic disposition
he calls it
where he goes
I'm going to get to
the bottom of this
I'm going to pretend
to be mad
and then I'm going to really find out what's what instead of just going like okay I'm going to get to the bottom of this I'm going to pretend to be mad and then I'm going to
really find out
what's what
instead of just going
like okay
I'm going to sort this out
yeah yeah
and even there's a point
where he sees
Claudius praying
we
because ours
isn't a bridge version
it's not in ours
but there's this moment
where he sees Claudius praying
and he could even end it there
but he goes
oh we better not do it
while he's praying
that's not
I could kill him now because I'm pretty sure he does this whole thing of putting on a play
to see whether his uncle reacts in a certain way because he recreates his dad being murdered on stage.
It goes through so much effort rather than just going straight to the...
Exactly. And can you imagine being stuck in a desert island with this guy?
Can you imagine?
I think we need to build a raft now to try and escape Hamlet. Oh you imagine? Right, okay, I think we need to, I think we need to build a raft now
to try and escape Hamlet.
Oh, really?
Right, okay, yeah.
To raft or not to raft.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, so, yeah.
Should we try building a building first?
Should we just, like, make a building?
Or, you know,
it's just like, yeah.
Okay, okay.
I think he'd be a royal pain in the ass.
Yeah, he would.
I mean, he's a prince,
so he would quite literally
be a royal pain in the ass.
Okay, yeah.
So, what was Shakespeare thinking here? That's a lot of effort to go through. That is, so he would quite literally be a royal paladin. Okay, yeah. So what was Shakespeare thinking here?
That's a lot of effort to go through.
That is.
So I think I'm right in saying that Hamlet,
I'm going to get told I'm wrong by someone when I say this,
but Hamlet is actually, Shakespeare had a son who died called Hamnet.
Ah.
So, and that was, I think this play in a lot of ways
is a sort of ode to his son who died.
I think I'm right in saying that.
So that's maybe why he went back and forth so much, right?
Yeah, and I think...
The thing is, don't get me wrong,
it's a reason why he is a revered figure
for both actors to play and for people to watch.
Yeah.
Because he really straddles some of the big like you know
life questions you know that you know the whole essence of and again to be or not to be tied into
this the essence of what it is even to live and sort of like he's someone who openly struggles
on stage he's got the um um what has he got uh the oh that this two two solid flesh would melt
speech was which is effectively Hamlet contemplating suicide.
That's right at the top.
And that, you know, obviously, even today,
like suicide is quite, you know, a sensitive thing.
And in Shakespeare's day, it was flat out, you know,
you were going to hell if you committed suicide.
And hell was a very real thing.
So, yeah, in that regard, you know, and a lot of the language is stunning.
It is.
And purely from a literary point of view, he's got another speech, which is the what a piece of work is man speech, where, again, he contemplates mortality and all the rest of it and it is
without shadow of a doubt
one of the most beautiful speeches
I think ever
written in the English language for a character
to say live on stage
and to get, yeah. And that's why everyone wants
to play him, that's why he's so revered. And that's why everyone wants to play him
but again, being stuck in a
desert island with this guy. Yes, would be hard work
when you're going, right, I need someone practical right now, Hamlet, mate.
I can't be dealing with all this existential stuff.
We need practical solutions for practical problems.
Nice.
Okay.
All right.
I mean, fantastic first choice.
Not only are you making me want to come and see your guy's version of Hamlet,
you're just making me want to pay more attention to Shakespeare.
I think you're really promoting it.
Yeah.
Okay. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. So Hamlet's going to be
your first choice. Who's going to be your second choice?
Romeo and Juliet. I'm going to take them as a pairing.
Okay, yes. Again, it's
revered as one of the greatest love stories of all
time. So many people
seem to forget that they both die at
the end. They're both idiots.
They are meant to be,
I think Juliet's meant to be 13 years old
and Romeo's meant to be
17 maybe
and like
what are you doing?
I get it
they've got the two
warring houses
they're in a difficult
situation
but like
ultimately
the play happens
in a very short
amount of time
the time that they
actually spend together is relatively short.
Yes, okay.
And by the end, they've just gone, I love you so much.
They are a bad example to children everywhere.
They are, aren't they?
I didn't realise they were so young.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not a lot of people realise that.
But yeah, Juliet's going to be like 13 or something mad like that.
Crazy.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
So, um...
Okay, so, so like was that
I mean
when he
because obviously
he'd written them so young
yeah
like
I don't know
I don't know
if this is the right wording
but is that
normal
in Shakespeare's day
I think it would have been
more normal certainly
than we think of
as it being now
because there's a whole thing
that Juliet is being
married off to
Prince
to the county Paris
and that she's her father's property and he can sort of do...
There's this whole speech he does.
So that's not uncommon of the time that you'd hear about.
It would not have been that uncommon.
I don't think sort of like arranged marriages would have been far more, you know.
So literally like landowners making sure that their land's going off somewhere
and all that kind of stuff.
I think, you know, people were marrying their cousins left, right?
Yes, of course.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
A bit more freedom there to do those kind of things.
I don't know what else I was to say.
Okay.
Yeah, I guess you're right.
You only ever think of it as a love story.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
But actually.
You think of it as this big, you know, romantic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's quite harrowing.
Totally, yeah. And also there's a lot of, in the actual play, there, romantic. But it's quite harrowing. Totally, yeah.
And also, in the actual play, there's a lot of filth in there as well.
Like, the opening scene, there's a chat between these two guards,
and they're talking about beheading people,
they're talking about raping women,
they're talking about venereal disease.
It's really vulgar, some of the stuff they're going on about.
Have you done Romeo and Juliet?
We have done Romeo and Juliet, yeah.
How does that play out? Do you know what? Romeo and Juliet we have done Romeo and Juliet yeah how does that
how does that play out
do you know what
Romeo and Juliet
is one of our favourite ones
because it's one of the ones
that the ending
is so well known
that to subvert that
if the drunk
if the drunk person is Romeo
and he goes
oh do you know what
I kind of
I think I'm going to fall in love
with Juliet's dad
this evening
instead of Juliet
and then we literally
we have to follow that
to its rightful conclusion
really
or you've got characters
refusing to die
or the wrong character dying
we've done it before
Stacey who is meant
to be with me today
she was drunk for a show
we were doing a show out
in Australia
and I was getting changed
so I was playing
Mercutio and the Friar
in that
because they're never
in the same scene
those characters
so I was getting changed
into my Friar's costume
after Mercutio dying
and Rich comes up
to me backstage he goes um i've got a slight problem and i was like yeah he goes stacy's just
killed me and i was like right so i do do i come back as a ghost yeah i was like yes rich you don't
just sit back here having a cup of tea while we're all out there fighting for our lives yes you're
coming back as a ghost oh my god so yeah like we were doing it in Sydney and Stacey had literally got a random person.
Oh God, I wish I could remember his name.
Let's call him Clive.
I can't remember.
Ryan, that was his name.
Cause there's a video, someone posted a video.
Someone filmed it.
Right, right.
And yeah, she literally got this kid,
Ryan out of the audience.
He must've been like 18 or something.
Gives him whatever the weapon had been replaced with.
Cause we have weapons in the shows,
but when it's the drunk person,
they get like subbed in for for a floppy dagger or something.
Right, right.
So she gave it to him.
And she just gave it to him, nodded it in Rich's direction.
He was playing Romeo.
And he went, OK, and just stabbed Rich.
And Rich was like, oh, apparently I'm dead now.
Oh, that shouldn't have happened.
That's amazing.
What happens to all those lines?
Literally, we just have to improvise around it.
Wow, that's great.
That is our job as a soap opera.
And we know as much as humanly possible of the other actors' lines as well.
We had one time, again, this was actually in Australia,
when Juliet decided she was going to fall in love with Benvolio and Romeo.
And we had the same actor playing Benvolio as the nurse.
And there's a scene as the nurse and there's
a scene where the nurse comes in and interrupts them in bed and we were backstage going well who's
gonna be the nurse like like all of us just there looking at this nurse costume we were like well
someone's putting it on they're going out there and then you just go out there and go i made the
mistake i'd put it on i went out there when i was like hello juliet i'm your new nurse and like she
the drunk went oh that's funny funny because literally this entire scene is about
how we've known each other for ages.
And I was like, well, she told me a lot about you.
That's really good.
That's great.
Okay, so.
So yeah, and they, yeah.
Romeo in particular, Juliet's got a bit of feistiness about her,
but they come as a pair, don't they?
So you've got to take them as a pair.
But Romeo, he starts off the play in love with someone else
he then goes
and falls in love with Julia
he kills her cousin
along the
he's a
no
no he's an idiot
he's an idiot
okay okay
so then
you're
they would be
horrific on the island
because also
they're so young
yeah totally
nearly completely useless
they'd be millennials
I wouldn't know
what to talk to them about
exactly yeah
and they've got like
not great decision makingmaking skills either.
Totally.
They're not going to help.
Yeah, they'd be.
This is the thing.
Because they hardly spend any time, you know,
on, like, actually in each other's company.
They just sort of pine after each other a lot.
Yes.
And then, you know, what are they going to do when they,
if they, you know, ultimately they're going to spend a bit of time together.
I don't still have a crush on the girl that I had when I was 13.
You know, that's all forgotten about.
Literally, I give them a week.
Yeah.
And they'll be like, oh, I'm not really into them.
And then you're stuck in this really awkward, you know, there's nothing worse than being
like a third wheel with a couple that's had a bit of a falling out, isn't there?
Oh my God, that's awkward.
Yeah.
Awful.
It's bringing back some horrible
memories
okay
okay so
Romeo and Juliet
as a pair
are going to be
your second choice
yeah
alright thank you
very much David
and who's going to
be your third choice
so my third choice
is going to be
is going to be
Lewis Ironside
who is my boss
wow
okay
he is the head
of shit face
Shakespeare and yeah he is who is my boss. Wow. He is the head of shit face Shakespeare.
And yeah, he is,
as well as one of the best human beings I've ever met
and also one of the absolute kindest human beings alive,
is just an absolute nightmare of a human being.
Is he?
Is this dangerous territory?
I don't think so.
I think he'd listen to this and be like, nope, fair play.
Yep, I understand that completely.
So go on, fill me in.
Why?
Oh, God.
He is just the worst person to get hold of in any, he's that sort of person.
This all sounds very petty, but when you're trying to run a company that already relies
on getting someone drunk, you need someone to be fairly on it.
So on a small scale,
just purely like admin duties,
the man is appalling.
Like literally,
we've all just got to the point now
where we're just having
to do stuff behind his back.
And I'm very, again,
very aware that he might listen to this.
But like the breakdown,
I think that he gave
our set designer
for Edinburgh this year
was the most vaguest piece
of nonsense you've ever heard.
And Beth, who was organising it, was just like,
I'm just going to go.
I'm just going to do my own thing here, guys.
I'm just going to send.
I'm just going to send.
And he had the cheek afters when she sent through a picture.
It's just been like,
that's not completely what I had in mind.
It's like, oh, is it, Lewis?
Because literally the set designer would never have managed
to work it out from the vague piece of nonsense you sent through.
Really?
Wow.
This is really personal.
I'm really going in. I know. Oh, believe me.
Oh my God. He's very funny
as well. He always, he has very
grand ideas about things that
can work during the show. So he wanted to set
this thing up. He wanted,
again, it's Romeo and Juliet, and
there's a big fight between
Romeo and Tybalt, and it's choreographed. They both
spin out at the end
and we had this backlighting.
So it was very sort of like Tarantino,
Kill Bill X when they spin out.
And of course, to go along with that,
he wanted like this splatter of blood
and we were like, right, okay.
Okay, cool.
We're going to do this.
And he was like, right, so you're going to,
Dave, what's going to happen?
It's from behind the curtain and from behind Tybalt,
you're going to fire this.
And he hands me like a makeshift air gun
which he basically like got an air canister
and like duct taped it to some tubing
and then inside the tubing
he'd rammed it full of banana
food colouring
and washing detergent
and so it's just this red gooey
gunky mess
obviously
and I was just like
Lou I'm not
entirely sure
I feel comfortable
using that
like it looks like
if I fire it
it could take my hand
like you've built this
it literally looks like
it could explode
in my hands
at any second
and he was like
no no
what are you talking about
it'll be fine
it'll be fine
and I just
night after night
I kept on refusing to use this thing he was like right no Dave come on tonight's the night we're going to do it'll be fine it'll be fine and I just night after night I kept on refusing
to use this thing
he was like
right no Dave
come on tonight's the night
we're going to do it tonight
and I was like
okay fine fine
I'll do it tonight
I'll do it once
if only to prove to him
that it doesn't work
yeah
and so we had
but we had this agreement
beforehand that
obviously it's going to
fire from behind Tybalt
and splatter all over Romeo
who's the one who's
cut Tybalt's neck
yeah
and he's Rich who was playing cut Tybalt's neck yeah and
he's
Rich
who was playing Romeo
that night
was wearing this jacket
and we were like
the shirt can be cleaned
the jacket cannot
so you have to take
the jacket off
before the fight
right
I'm looking out
through the curtain
I'm like
Rich
Rich hasn't taken
the jacket off
and I'm just
I'm there
with this like gun
full of like
leaking red gunge
and I'm just there
and I'm just
look at Lewis and I'm and I'm just looking at Lewis
and I'm like,
I'm just going to shoot Lewis with it.
So I just shot him
and he got absolutely covered in this stuff.
And not only that,
it turned the stage into an ice rink.
Like literally,
it became,
people were running on to deliver news
of various characters being killed or whatever
and people were just slipping over.
Oh no.
Like mushed up banana and washing detergent wow
we were skidding all over the place what have you done yeah you're making the thing yeah yeah
although if you are listening look after your people please do please do there's there's there's
a lot of stories like that okay i couldn't hey oh god there was a great one as well. When we went over to Australia
and the woman behind the counter was like,
are you bringing in any weapons?
And he goes, just a couple of swords,
a couple of fencing for us.
And she was like, sorry, sir.
And he goes, just, no, swords,
but they're very blunt and they're fencing.
They're props for a show.
They're props for a show.
You're bringing swords in, sir.
And a dagger.
And a dagger.
Well, no, it's very blunt.
At this point, he gets out the dagger of the bag in an airport.
I mean, he's right.
It is completely blunt.
You couldn't have cut a carrot with it.
But literally, it looks like it could do do the business and he's getting that out in
an airport and then proceed he decides somewhere in his mind the best thing he can do is to
demonstrate how blunt it is by using it on his own arms and neck in the middle of this airport
people were getting incredibly crazy man we nearly didn't get into Australia. That is unbelievable. They were not happy with us at all.
At all.
Wow.
And yeah, like I said, that's just...
It baffles me.
I mean, sorry, Lewis.
It baffles me how someone like this could run the show.
He is, don't get me wrong, he is a genius.
Okay, yeah.
But I begrudge him for that genius every day.
Yeah, okay, okay.
And I should also add that he is one of the kindest and generous and most lovely people that I know.
It's nice to have a caveat there.
Oh, yeah, isn't it?
Isn't it just?
Keep your job.
He's done all that to us, and I hate him.
Retain your job.
Retain your job.
Retain your job.
So, Lewis Ironside.
Yes, you are not coming with me to that island.
Okay, yeah, he'd be a liability, I think.
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David, now, mercifully, among the wreckage of the plane,
there was some food and drink left over.
Unfortunately for you, it's your least favourite food and drink in the world.
What are they and why are they so bad?
So I think I'm going to, I sort of touched on this earlier,
but I'm going to say tequila for the worst drink.
Okay, I can see where this is going, but please tell us.
Yeah, I think for anyone that's part of a show
where you get drunk as part of your job
and someone brought up tequila, you would go,
yeah, I can see where this is heading.
I imagine this is going to end in you bringing up tequila.
In a very more literal sense.
Okay, yes, exactly, yeah.
But for years and years and years, this was sort of like a no-go drink in the company.
We've always said no shots.
You can drink whatever you want.
You can drink spirits as long as it's with a mixer, but no shots.
And obviously tequila, most known probably for having it as a shot.
So, you know, not on the table and
we had a guy
a couple of years ago who
he was really like do you know what
tequila is really my thing
it's my jam it's what I love
I drink it all the time and I just like a bit of lime
and a bit of soda water
great and
he was so we were a bit hesitant
at first he was sort of like drinking
beer he was drinking gin but we were like we you know we want people to enjoy what they're drinking
before the show and if they're sort of they're going like you know i was like you know what
sod it let's let's go and get let's go and get jackson tequila so we did and then the next show
that i did next and and it was a great show he did he did an amazing job he actually that was it was
in york and michael parkinson watched her and not michael park michael michael michael palin sorry a great show he did an amazing job he actually it was in York and Michael Parkinson
watched
not Michael Parkinson
Michael Palin
sorry
Michael Palin
was watching a soundcheck
and Jack was a huge
huge Michael Palin fan
and was just like
oh my god
and just like
ran over
and was like
I love you
anyway
it was a great show
it was really exciting
it sounds really good
yeah
it was great
but I was like
yeah do you know what?
I'm going to drink tequila for my next show.
And I have been doing this show a long time now,
and I've never, ever been sick during the show.
But on the show where I drank tequila,
I was two scenes away from the end,
and I hurled my guts up backstage.
Oh, no! And me we made tequila just not had
the same relationship sense do you know what i mean she's really way yeah so what did you do did
you suck up and go yeah i did like so i i compared beth for that show was like oh uh yeah um she was
like she was watching me go in the loo and i was going beth i'm gonna be sick this is real bad i'm
gonna go be sick and she was like right don't lock the. And she was like, right, don't lock the door.
And I was like, no, I'm not going to lock the door,
but I'm going to shut the door.
Don't want you to see me being sick.
So anyway, she ran off and she told everyone
just they were coming off for another scene.
She was like, guys, I'm not sure he's coming back out.
And I was playing Hamlet and she was like,
I don't know that he's coming back out.
At that point, everyone all of a sudden just hears me on stage.
It was like, oh no, he's out.
And I just kind of like, I just battled on through it.
Well done.
Everyone after that was like, good effort.
Did someone tell the audience what happened?
No, no, never.
It's not a great look, is it?
I mean, I'm telling you guys now.
I'm trusting you and however many listeners you have.
Everyone keep it between themselves.
But yeah, it was, we don't have it very often we you know it's like
we've got one of those boards with like days since the last accident we haven't we don't we haven't
had to reset that in a while really okay that's like oh my god if i'd not managed to make it out
for those last two scenes and you've not managed to touch tequila since no uh no no i've not i've
not quite had the no need yeah yeah okay wow i'm back on the vodka at the moment yeah so at some
point i'm sure.
We've got enough shows left in this run,
so we'll see, maybe.
While we're talking about the booze,
do you find that on...
So say someone comes into the company,
the first time that they do this,
do they tend to overshoot the mark?
That's the time that they're going to get the most drunk.
So we monitor them really closely.
And actually, we've got two girls who have just joined our show at the moment.
We've got Maddie and Natalie.
And they're both our sort of newbies.
And actually, it's the sort of thing where you might even have to have
a little bit more than you think because the adrenaline...
Right, okay.
It depends from different person to different person.
So if you want the drunk effect, you might have to have another drink.
Yeah, totally.
But normally, people are begging for one more drink before they go on stage
because the adrenaline sobers them up and then they're like,
I feel completely sober.
I've seen people like not able to walk, like stumbling going,
I think I need another drink before I go on an us going,
nah, you're good, you're good, you're fine.
Is there a lot of like slurring there were?
Oh yeah, big time.
Forgetting and like having to paraphrase
and then like
you'll have nights
where the only lines
you can remember
are the other actors
lines opposite you
so then you know
you've got all sorts
of hijinks with that
oh that's great
that's brilliant
okay so tequila
right
yeah tequila
would not be very happy
if I found that
no okay
and what would be
your food choice
so do you know what
for food
I'm going to say
on behalf of Stacey who is meant to be here I know that. No, okay. And what would be your food choice? So do you know what? For food, I'm going to say on behalf of Stacey,
who is meant to be here,
I know that...
So they did a production of Taming of the Shrew
earlier in the year.
And there's a scene in that
where one of the characters gets presented
with a plate of food
and then the plate of food is thrown away.
And they used actual slices of ham and beef for that.
When they started doing it in America,
because we run in America as well,
they were using complete rotisserie chickens for it.
Wow.
And Laura, who's one of our producers over there,
was like, we have to stop this
because I really like rotisserie chicken
and I will not like it if we carry on using it in this manner.
And we're ending every show with chicken grease
and chicken skin and chicken smearing on the stage.
So we didn't use whole rotisserie chickens over here,
but we did use pre-cooked beef and ham slices.
And literally, I saw one show where one of the girls, Bryony,
had this big clump of beef spat there.
I'm just thinking about it.
Big clump of beef stuck in her hair
and just trying to catch it as it was swinging about.
And I'm pretty sure,
so I'm saying on behalf
of the other cast there,
but I'm pretty sure
like any sort of like
sliced cold meat products
would conjure up
some pretty horrible memories.
Yeah, they're not ready
to go back there.
Okay, yeah.
And then you've just got
on the island, it's hot
and all you've got is like
warm packet ham
and tequila.
Have you ever done that
where you've taken some
for a picnic
and you've like left it
in your bag and you've forgotten it
and it's gone all sweaty?
It stinks of farts.
Oh my God, this is horrible.
It's gross.
Awful.
Okay, so for your company members,
like sliced packet ham and beef.
Yeah, yeah.
A gross choice, I think.
Thank you very much, David.
Now, fortunately, you won't be about entertainment on the island.
The plane's entertainment system continues to work,
but just your luck, it only has two working settings.
One is your least favourite film of all time,
and the other is your least favourite song.
I'm sorry, but what are they?
So, okay, I'll go for the song first.
Song first.
The song is a good one.
So I'm going to say that it is Baggy Trousers.
Baggy Trousers by Madness.
By Madness.
Yes.
Okay, go on.
Yeah.
That's never come up on this before.
Yeah.
So, and again, coming back to the show,
because I'm bringing everything back to the show,
but we did, I'd say, our worst show of all times
at a Butlins at a festival that was being curated by Madness
and that Madness were performing at. Okay. So they were performing at this Butlins at a festival that was being curated by madness and that madness were performing
at okay so they were performing at this butlins this is great we got the we got the call and we
were like shit face shakespeare at butlins oh okay okay and we were sort of going like oh it's
madness it'll be a load of like 80s dad yeah i mean it'd be a load of like people who like that
was a thing and now they're sort of like old cuddly dads who like listening to baggy trousers and whatever we got there yeah and i
i kid you not for some reason their fan base in wherever this butlin's what i forget which
butlin's it was but literally it was like skinhead toothless no exaggeration they looked
terrifying like wow and it wasn't just like
oh someone's got
a bit of a mean exterior
but once you get to know them
they're all a bit
no these guys
were full on
like
aggressive
scary people
and they were
everywhere
so we went out
in Butlins
on that night
we went
ooh
we might have been
misbooked
this might have been like
because we'd done
we'd done Bestival and someone who'd been in charge of booking it had seen Bestival and gone oh yeah these guys are great went oh we might have been misbooked this might have been like because we done we done best of all
and someone who had been in charge of booking it had seen best of all and gone oh yeah these guys
are great let's get them into do this but i can't tell you how different the vibe was like jesus
so anyway it comes to the show the next day yeah and uh this was again this was in 2014 so this is
just when i joined and this girl this girl Bryony who I joined with
so me and her
were sort of the newbies
that year
and Bryony
Bryony was drinking
for the show
and she got a little bit
over excited
and she
we had to walk there
and by the time
we got there
she was like
really
she was really pissed
like more
more pissed than she should have been.
And we started doing the sound check, of which there were problems with that as well,
because it was very much geared towards stand-up comics.
It was people doing stand-up comedy.
Not six Shakespeare actors.
Yes.
Or with radio mics.
Oh, no.
Because it was a really big room.
We needed the radio mics.
And they did not have a clue how to operate them.
They would, anyway.
So, and we were all of a sudden like where's where's brianie gone and we went backstage and she'd fallen asleep and we woke her up and she woke up and she started panicking and then and
then because she perhaps she got very upset and then she was sick and then she couldn't stop being
sick and then she passed out and at this point we had 20 minutes to go until the show started.
So what did you do?
Well, so there was a discussion at that point.
Stacey, who was meant to be here today, and Beth started.
I don't know what they thought our act was because our green room,
it was so full of booze.
It was so full of, like literally to the wall on two sides of the room. Is it just where they were storing the booze it was so full of like literally to the wall
on two sides of the room
is it just where they were
storing the booze
I don't know
and they'd just gone
oh yeah we'll stick
shit face Shakespeare in there
yeah yeah
but honestly
it was like they'd gone
oh yeah what's the rat
I'll drink it in Shakespeare
how many are there
six
okay great
like get like
give 200 bottles of beer
it was packed
it was packed
yeah
and um
so like
Beth just cracks open
this bottle of whiskey
and just goes
well uh
I'm the smallest
so I think it'll probably be
me drinking
and then Stacey takes the bottle from her
and goes
well I was drinking last night
so I think I'll be able to top up again
pretty
pretty easily
takes a swig
they start having this debate
about which one of them
is gonna be getting drunk
for the show
and they're just
as they're doing it
the other one is
and I'm like
one of you needs to stop
because one of you needs to go out there sober.
And like, so we went out there,
like a cast member down.
We didn't, so we didn't have a comp,
I said that we've got a comp pair
normally sort of introduced it.
We didn't have a comp pair for that show.
We got about 20 minutes in
and we were getting horrendous,
we were getting heckled.
We were getting horrendous feedback
from the microphones that weren't working.
Beth was just, I think there was a bar in the room.
Beth had run off to the bar to try and get a shot and just was like holding the microphone up to
this old man and the audience going they hate us say something to my microphone they hate us
like literally like it was a desire and then we all ran off to the dressing room and hid at the
end well no we got 20 minutes through it and then lewis just walked out on stage and was like this
clearly isn't working thank you very much for your time we're going to stop the show there
yeah yeah yeah yeah this is that bad
yeah that bad and we've met
I can't think of the last time I think that was
the last time we've ever had to pull a show like halfway
through and that was in very
obviously exceptional circumstances we'd done like
three really successful runs at
Edinburgh before then and like I said like all the festivals
like Secret Garden Party and stuff but it just was like
wrong time wrong place
apparently it was packed
but I have no memory
I've blocked it out
like everyone was like
it was huge
and it was really full
honestly
I was just like
so uncomfortable
at that point
I was just like
I'm just gonna
and yeah
I don't have any memory
I remember before the show
that's normally what happens
when you drink
you can't remember the show
but honestly
I can remember nothing about being on that stage.
Oh my God.
Full on, like, trauma.
I've blanked it out of my memory.
Right.
So take me to Baggy Trousers.
So Baggy, yeah.
Oh, is it just because of madness?
It's because of the madness.
Because it was the madness that commissioned it.
That was literally, yeah, yeah.
So whenever I hear, you know, madness,
and especially I think Baggy Trousers,
I think that's, you know.
Yeah, that sparks something.
Oh yeah.
It makes you sick to the pit of your stomach.
Oh God, yeah.
Did you leave after that?
Did you go home?
Did you go out and drink?
We hid in our dressing room
and a stage manager came to the door
and was like,
is this part of the show?
And we were like,
no, it's not.
Sorry, we're just not going back out there.
And Lewis had to go and sort of have a meeting
with the organisers and stuff.
But I think they sort of like, they got it. They knew that even if we going back out there. And Lewis had to go and sort of have a meeting with the organisers and stuff. But I think they sort of like...
They got it.
They knew that even if we'd gone out there and done, at the time, our best show,
it would not have been...
It would not have gone down well.
No, absolutely not.
So for that reason, if I crashed and Baggy Trousers is on that entertainment system...
Oh, no.
See you later.
Okay.
No way.
No way.
It makes perfect sense.
Thank you very much, David.
And what's going to be your film choice?
I'm going to choose The Lion King.
The Lion King?
The Lion King.
Leffield, right.
Okay.
Yeah.
No Shakespeare involved at all.
Well, no, wait for it.
Because The Lion King is the biggest rip-off of Hamlet.
It's the biggest rip-off of Hamlet.
Wow.
It is the same.
It's the same.
Apart from the story starts at a slightly different time.
It's the same. It's about a prince whose father gets murdered by his uncle.
Yes.
And then he goes away for a little bit,
and then he has a bit of time having a revenge mission.
I can't say revenge.
Revenge mission.
Revenge mission, getting his kingdom back.
So that's, apart from the twist obviously being that,
spoilers, I don't know if everyone dies at the end of Hamlet,
and obviously that does not happen in The Lion King.
But for that reason and that reason alone.
I didn't realise that.
Yeah, a lot of people do.
It's very funny, though.
I say that now at the start of the, when I do compare, because we all take turns doing stuff.
So when I compare at the start of doing Hamlet, I'm like, if there's anyone out there in the audience who's having a bit of a panic because they don't know Hamlet
you know
they don't know the story of Hamlet
it's alright
it's pretty much the Lion King
but everyone dies at the end
and I also go
and also
if you don't know Hamlet
and this is you coming to it
for the first time
what are you doing?
like I was just like
you've got some quality theatre
going on in London
you've seen it
seen us doing it pissed
yeah nice
that's great
wow
I didn't know that
they just completely ripped off Hamlet.
Yeah.
I mean, what was the whole thing?
There's only a finite number of stories in the world anyway,
but it's very close.
Yeah, I mean, the chances that that's coincidence are very small, I think.
You knew what you were up to, didn't you?
Yeah, you know what you're doing.
Yeah.
Those bastards.
Those bastards.
Okay, maybe I'll take that bastards bit out, but who knows.
Maybe I'll leave it in
okay so The Lion King
yeah
interesting
I didn't know that
I'm going to look into some
oh yeah big time
there's loads there
there's the whole like
10 things I hate about you
being taming of the shrew
there's I mean
less subtle ones
like Gnomeo and Juliet
I think that's a pretty like
yeah
there's loads of adaptations
I didn't know that 10 things
good storyteller
okay great one of the best okay thank you very much David and finally Yeah, okay. There's loads of adaptations. I didn't know that 10 things... Good storyteller. Okay, great.
One of the best.
Okay, thank you very much, David.
And finally, the island is overrun by the biggest dick of all the animals.
Which animal is it and why?
Oh, man.
Oh, I don't know this one.
I'm going to say...
I don't know.
I might just say...
Oh, this one's caught me by surprise.
But I might veer off and just say there's a cat that lives on my street who's being a dick at the moment i'm really oh he's oh he's grinding my gears
something wrong well so we first moved in my girlfriend loves cats and i love cats as well
to be fair but like this guy he was he's been really friendly really nice uh and ultimately
it's just one of those stories that we just have found out you know we are being used for our for
our food he's got it home he knows what he's doing he's playing everyone on the street everyone's feeding him yeah yeah
cheeky bastard cheeky i know they do that don't they yeah i like cats as well but i feel like
yeah i don't know if i could have one for that reason i need a bit of loyalty yeah i do yeah
i think i'm a bit too needy it depends doesn? It so depends on what sort of a person you are.
Because if you do want that, like, you know,
if you want that loyalty without question,
if you want, if someone who, I suppose, needs that sort of,
and I'm a bit like this as well,
like, you go, dog, yeah, great.
Yeah, but I'm not willing to pick up their shit.
He's like, no animals.
No, that's it.
I'll have a goldfish, thank you.
We'll have our chat. That's it, yeah, exactly, yeah.
I can feed it, but that's it. Yeah. David a goldfish, thank you. We'll have our chat. That's it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I can feed it, but that's it.
Yeah.
David, this has been great.
Very insightful.
I feel like I've learned a lot.
Oh, good.
And I'm looking forward to seeing your show.
Yeah.
So please tell the listeners, where can they see Shitface Shakespeare?
So at the moment, Shitface Shakespeare is running at the Leicester Square Theatre until the 14th of September.
It is running at the moment up in Edinburgh until the 26th of September. It is running at the moment up in Edinburgh until the 26th of August.
And it's also going to be out on tour.
And I will tell you the tour dates momentarily,
but we're pretty much through October and November.
We are out on tour all over the UK
and we're doing a regional tour.
So pretty much from the 1st of October
to the 29th of November,
we are all over the place.
Amazing.
I can read you out the whole list if you want.
No, it's all right.
Yeah, but I mean, people can go check it out.
We've got our website, www.shitfaceshakespeare.com.
You can see all of our dates on there.
Yeah.
Yeah, and you should definitely come check us out.
And the same for your social media, I guess.
Yeah, absolutely.
At Shitface Shake on Twitter and at Shitface Shakespeare on Instagram.
So yeah, there we go. Okay. I urge everyone to check out. Thank you so much for coming in. Oh, absolutely. At Shitface Shake on Twitter and at Shitface Shakespeare on Instagram. So yeah, there we go.
Okay.
I urge everyone to check out.
Thank you so much for coming in.
Nice one.
Oh, my pleasure.
Thank you, mate.