Desert Island Dicks - SOFIE HAGEN

Episode Date: September 22, 2019

Comedian and podcaster Sofie Hagen joins me to share who and what she'd hate to be stuck with on a desert island. Be sure to follow the podcast @dickspod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And here to share their Desert Island Dicks with us today is comedian and podcaster Sophie Hagen. Hello, thanks for having me. No, thanks for coming in. I really appreciate it. How did you find choosing your people for your island? Well, I think when I had to choose just all of it, I just had this like, oh, I can't possibly. And then I was like, oh, who would it even be? And I was like, oh, well, I guess there is.

And then there's also, and then at the end I had like 500 things and people I hate. I was like, oh, this was really easy actually. It was harder to choose between. Okay. Let's dive in. Who's going to be your first choice? Ooh, I think my first one would have to be Brian McFadden from Westlife. Now, it's hard for me to say. Like it hurts me deep in my soul having to choose him. But I think that's, I think, you know, I could have chosen someone like Hitler. But, you know, Brian wounded me personally. Oh, wow.

Because I was such a big fan. He's from Westlife, for those of you who don't know, as if anyone doesn't know. He left Westlife. That was his first major offense yeah uh which was devastating march 10 2004 we'll never forget right and i was such a big west like i was such a big like the biggest west i fan i was obsessed with westlife and then he left and i remember just like what was i 13 or 12 lying like on my bathroom floor just like crying oh no just like i was trying to explain to my mom why i couldn't go to school today.

And it was just, oh, I couldn't. And his whole thing was to go, oh, it's because I want to spend time with my family. And, you know, I don't have time anymore. And then like two months and then he released a single. Oh, you dick. It hurt me so much. Did you listen to the solo singles? I did. You know what? It's like

pop, so it's just a... But when you read the lyrics, his what's it called? It's called Irish Son. And when you... It's about how he was beaten up and touched by like Irish priests. What? Those are the lyrics. Really? Yeah, it's like... I can't remember the lyrics

but it was something like, under their hands, we had bruises on our skin after the, and people were just like, la, la, la, la, la, la. You're dancing to it? No one was like, what is he doing? Unbelievable. Which I think is kind of great, but again, it kind of went unnoticed,

and then when you listen to it now, you're like, imagine being him going, now I'm going to release a single about the horrific abuse I suffered by the priests, and everyone's just like yeah woohoo when's your next single coming a lot of them was really a lot of the songs were really really bad um but you know catchy but it was just more the fact that he left this band and he was my favorite was he your favorite he was and then I had to choose a new favorite but my next favorite one was mark but my best friend that was her favorite oh you know i'm not gonna go for a key and they got shane right you're not mad i'm not i'm not mad right i'm not i have eyes in my

head now but so it was all a bit you know it created this um ditch you know i my friendship because now we both mike was both of our favourites and we can't both marry him turns out he's gay, none of us could marry him not as if that was the only thing that separated us from him but then I did a show in 2015 about Westlife which is

it's on Netflix if you really search for it you have to really dig deep on the BBC, live at the BBC and also they've edited it poorly but anyways the gist of it's there

so I thought about being a West Side fan and between I did that show in Edinburgh and until I did it at the Soho Theatre

in December so that's like four months I was like I need West Side to come and see this show so I really want West Side to come and see this show

they have to come and see this show because it's about them and like my you know it wasn't like I wasn't telling them apart I was like, I need Westside to come and see this show. So I really want Westside to come and see this show. They have to come and see this show because it's about them. And like my, you know, it wasn't like I wasn't tearing them apart. I was like being kind about them and what they meant to me as a teenager. So I was trying to get a hold of them. Like, obviously, if you're like a comedian is doing a show about you, they're like, no, this is not going to be good. And then my I was i just had i got a boyfriend and we'd been together for six days and then i was he was meeting my friends for the first time then i got a message from my manager which was a picture of him with brian and he wrote like

and then an address and he said come to this party now i had to send my boyfriend and go right okay i can't explain this but we need to go very quickly and it was like got in a cab drove like east to west London as quickly as we could it was like some weird de-celebrity

charity benefit I had to pay 60 pounds to get in I was like take all my money went in and then Brian was sitting there. And my manager was there like, right, okay, this is what we do. And I was like, I parked my boyfriend at the bar. Like, don't ask any questions. I'll explain later.

And I was like, okay, what do we do? And he was like, right, we have to be a level of, like we can't be like, hi, I'm more famous and successful than you. But I also can't be like, I am the worst. You won't get anything out of meeting me. It had to be somewhere in the middle. So he still saw a benefit in seeing my show, but also didn't feel like I thought he wasn't more than that.

It was a very hard dynamic. So we walked up to him. And the first thing he does is he goes, Sophie Hagen, Sophie Hagen, Sophie Hagen. And I was just like, uh. What? So I went, Brian from Westlife, Brian from Westlife, Brian from Westlife. I could see my manager's eyes were like, what the fuck?

And I was like, how does he know my name? And he was like, oh, yeah, all your fans have been tweeting at me about your show. And I was like, oh, God, I didn't know they'd done that. So I was like, oh. And I said, oh, my fans are very lovely. And he leaned in and he was just like, oh, yeah? Well, my fans are fucking crazy. And I was like, I'm standing in front of you, Brian.

I'm right here. And he was like, you know. I don't think that he hadn't, in my opinion, allegedly, I don't think that he hadn't, in my opinion, allegedly, I don't think that he hadn't not touched drugs. Okay. He seemed very energetic for like a very late evening. He may or may not have touched drugs. Yeah, he may or may not.

You know, there was a bit of all of that going on and stuff. And he went to the bathroom quite often. He's not like that. He could have had a poor tummy. I don't know. But yeah, he was just a bit of a... And he said, yeah, okay, I'll come and see your show. He never did, which is his second big offense. Then he tweeted recently something about how it was the most, I wish I could remember it word for word,

but it was something like, Nigel Farage is a terrible politician, something like that. So you start reading it. You're like, oh, this is brilliant. And then it goes, we need someone like Trump. We're like, oh. Oh, okay. Wow, okay. And then a few years before that, he had tweeted.

There was this girl, just a random girl, who had tweeted something about him being on some kind of show, like a show where he had to jump at something, like he's falling as quickly as his career or something like that. She tweeted her friend about this and then he replied,

like calling her, I think a cunt and then also wrote something like, I'm going to strangle you with your computer mouse cable or something like that. Really? It's wireless, Brian. Exactly.

And then like It was deleted very quickly And like No I'm obsessed with him Because he seems like Such a dickhead But to me

He was just this like Do you know? It's like a whole journey It's so sad I know Do you wish that you Hadn't met him maybe? No

No I'm quite excited about it. Because they say never meet your idols, never meet your heroes and that kind of stuff. Yeah, I think with him it was never, I think with Westlife, now it's enough just looking at their Twitter. I think one of the things that really worked for them was that you could only read about them in newspapers

where they've done interviews. Where now, when they just tweet whatever they think, you're like, oh, really? Is that it? Why was I so fascinated? Yeah, I know. Oh, dear. I think that was enough of that. There are certain people that I look very much up to that I wish I'd never tried to get in touch with. Because in my head, I was like, oh, can I ask if you want to do my podcast?

And then I was like, no. Oh, my God. I thought we were going to be friends. You've already built up this huge relationship in your head. It's like me and you, Sophie. We're going to be best friends after this, aren't we? Best friends. I know, right?

Okay. Thanks. It's official. I've got it recorded. Brian McFadden. Wow. I can't say that I've ever had any dealings

with him but I won't say and I can say after but I've heard other stories about Brian McFadden oh my god I'm so excited

but these stories I can't leave in the podcast oh my god I'm so excited this is why we're best friends yeah this is why we're best friends now okay I'll tell you

in about 40 minutes time okay Brian McFadden's going to be your first choice anything else about Brian McFadden before we put him on your island? I think there's enough said. I mean, I think he...

I think, oh yeah, and then I did this. Oh, what did I do? Oh yeah, I tweeted something about how I once recorded a song with my friend. Oh God, can I swear? Is this like a... Yeah, you're fine, yeah. I mean, I've already said cunt,

I guess it makes sense. But when me and my friend Sarah, when we were like 13 and we were huge West Side fans, we recorded a song on my computer, which is a cover, let's call it a cover, parody of Hole Again

by Atomic Kitten, but it was horny again. So we would be like, looking back,, but it was horny again. So we would be like, looking back, you can make us horny again. And we really tried to sing this. None of us could sing. And then we sent it to Westlife.

I was like, this is about you. Very horrific thing to do. So I tweeted that. I was like, oh my God, I just remembered that this is out there somewhere. Fuck, like this is going to ruin my career. This is horrible. And then I must have tagged Westlife,

or there must have been a reason for this. Mark then commented and said, oh, was that you? Do you still have it? Oh, no. And I was like, whoa, whoa. And then I wrote something back. Something happened where Mark said something like,

the four of us or something. And then Brian commented and said something along the lines of, oh, yeah, you always forgot about me. Or like, I was also in the, something like that. And then Mark went, oh, sorry, mate. I'm really tired right now. Something like that. And Brian was like, oh, yeah, well, okay, thank you.

And I was still tagged into all of these, like Brian and Mark having this discussion. And I was like, oh, yeah, well, okay, thank you. And I was still tagged into all of these, like Brian and Mark having this discussion. I was like, oh, my God, what have I done? It was like seeing my parents fight. And then all of these teenage girls who follow them, and, well, not even teenage girls anymore, imagine they're like 40-year-olds, commenting, being like, I love you, Mark, I love you, Brian,

come to Singapore, come to Singapore. Yeah, okay. It was so mad. It was so, yeah, they're still huge in Singapore. Okay, Brian McFadden's going to be your first choice. Yes, okay. It was so mad. It was so, it was still huge in Singapore. Okay, Brian McFadden is going to be your first choice. Yes, he will. Thank you very much.

And who's going to be your second choice? Anyone who has ever heckled. Anyone, anyone who has ever heckled. I did not know how much I hated hecklers. And this is not just hecklers,

but I think that's the best example of someone who can sit in a crowd where everyone has paid the same. Everyone's there for the same. Everyone's turned in the same direction, sitting on the same chair. But somehow they think that what they have to say now is more valuable or should be heard above everyone else's, including the person that you've paid to see. Yeah. I hate the stage I hate it I hate it so I hate them with a passion I had a heckler I rarely do

have hecklers in my own shows now because all my audience members are anxious and scared all the time which is why I love them but there was this I have a bit in my new show where I have to ask a question, but I don't ask the audience.

It's just like a, what's it called? Not a hypothetical, but like a, you know, you don't want an answer. Rhetorical. Rhetorical, yeah.

So I just have to say something like, did I do this? Did I? Did I do this? Did I do this? And it has to build up. There's a very specific rhythm in it and it's i say it a lot of times but there is a you know i wait for the first wave of laughs and then it

stops for a while because they realize i'm just repeating it and then when they realize i am just repeating it there's a second wave and then i repeat it a few more times and then there's a huge punch line right so you have like did i did i do that did i did and then she kept answering she kept going yes no i don't. No, I don't know. Did you? I don't know. And every time she did, I had to go back. I had to call it out somehow.

Be like, ha ha. Maybe don't say anything. And I had to go back. And then she would answer again. And I'd have to go. And I said, let's assume I know what I'm doing. And then I went back. Did I do that?

And she kept answering. And eventually I just said, I'm about to kill an audience member. And my audience were these kind people. It was like, oh. Oh, no. OK. Oh, no. Should we all leave now?

I became the Brian McFadden. Oh, no. This is not good. And I was just, because that's, and I've done it before at club gigs when there's been some, there's been a man who's been like, get your tits out or something like that. And I've just started going right, like tearing him apart. And you know, in the beginning when the audience is like, yeah, ruin him.

I've taken it so far that eventually the audience were on the same side as him. Oh, no. I'm full on like, this is why your wife has left you. Like full on. Because I can't control it that my reaction to selfishness and i think that is the ultimate selfish thing to do and there's a guy who did my podcast recently and he told me just like as a oh yeah oh yeah i once heckled this show and i was like excuse me excuse me and i was genuinely angry yeah yeah i don't blame you it's frustrated yeah i've been there and you just think

that i was really enjoying the show until we started chipping in yeah i mean and i've paid money to be here yeah the guy the guy didn't he's a doctor and he was um he said oh yeah but you know the people who who um who like if you heckle that it's only the good comedians who can handle it i'm like yeah okay but if i tripped you over when you were on your way to a surgery, you could be like, okay, well, a good doctor could just fix up his own leg and then run to the surgery anyways. But wouldn't it be a lot better if I didn't trip you? Yes, exactly.

Like, oh, a really good doctor could do the surgery in the dark, but I'm not going to turn off the light, am I? Yeah. Like, you'd prefer it if there was light because then you'd do the job better. It makes no sense. I don't know why you said that I cannot and it's not just like people shouting things to be funny or just to be annoying it's also

people who go aww when you say something it's so condescending it's so condescending how do you manage it then because it must happen like you said from time to time what do you do how do you I just can't control it. I can't control it. I go really

ballistic. I go really furious. I try to be... There was once a group of women who were like, those women, they're out on a night out. And those are not my type of people. I don't go out.

That's not your usual audience. And they kept talking and talking and talking. I don't go out. That's not your usual audience. No, no, no, no. And they kept talking and talking and talking. I kept trying to make them shut up. And at one point, one of them said something again. And I said, what was it? What was it this time? And then her friend said, oh, she has a heartburn.

And I immediately said, oh, she has a heart? It's so deep. That's really good. And I ended up leaving being upset. And I was like, fine. I hope the night is ruined. I hope they never go out again. It's so deep. That's really good. And I ended up leaving being upset. And I was like, fine. I hope the night is ruined. I hope they never go out again. It goes so deep.

It goes so deep. Yeah, because you've worked hard on your show. You get it. And you want people to enjoy it in the way that you've planned it. It's so disrespectful. It's so arrogant. And I say that as the person on stage in the light with the microphone. I'm like, you are arrogant. Yes.

You think people should listen to you. I see it. But are arrogant. Yes. You think people should listen to you. I see it. But there is just this, it's the idea of them thinking, them, it's same like people talking in the cinema where you're like, why are you more important

than these people? Absolutely, than this thing that I've been looking forward to. I've got a babysitter to be here for me. I'm like, I've paid a babysitter to come to the cinema. You shut up. I want a nice...

Get off your phone there's people who've been I mean movies are probably even more of an example than comedians but movies that cost billions

and you know there's a crew of 4,000 people on it and it's taken them four years and then you're like well actually are you kidding me

are you kidding me Karen are you joking so are you finding that because I've never been to Edinburgh Festival. Really? Yeah, I've never been. And I imagine you've had to endure a few.

Yeah. And from what I hear, mostly from listening to people's podcasts, by the end of the festival, you're a bit wrung out. Oh my God, yeah. And I imagine in those scenarios, you're often getting audience members

that aren't entirely sure who you are, what your show's about. Is that the kind of time that you might get heckled? Are you experiencing that or are they generally sort of? I mean, generally, I'm very, very, very, very lucky with my audience. And I find in Edinburgh, I must have had some a few times, but I don't remember any like in particular in edinburgh really right okay but um on tour i think i get it more because i don't know there's something about i don't know i think i think it's more you know if i go to well i had a really bad one in aberdeen but it was sort of the sense of them not the people who did it i had the sense of them not really

understanding what was going and i'm not saying like people from aberdeen don't understand comedy the people who did it I had a sense of them not really understanding what was going and I'm not saying people from Aberdeen don't understand comedy but it was when I talked to them

afterwards they couldn't understand why that wasn't okay which I think and I don't know if that is because a lot of my audience members

are not necessarily comedy fans they're more I don't know just they found me from other things. Yeah. So they've not been to all the clubs

and they don't know how it really always has to, you know, also because stand-up is such a thing where it looks like you're just talking. It looks like you've just showed up and gone, oh, I don't know,

what should I talk about today? Oh yeah, yesterday this happened and it's actually. They haven't seen you weeks with a pen and a pad working this all out. The 50 work in progress shows you've done where you've struggled to get like one word ahead of the other and it's actually they haven't seen your weeks with a pen and a pad working this all out exactly the 50 work in progress shows

you've done where you've struggled to get like one word ahead of the other and you've timed the pauses between two sentences and you know

because they're just like oh my god she's just up there talking I should reply great yes I will hulk

I will hulk my way out of this I hope that anyone listening hears this and thinks twice about heckling in the future. Yes, please. Okay, hecklers are going to be your second choice.

Thank you very much. And who's going to be your third choice? Ricky Gervais. Ricky Gervais. And there is many levels to this. I was such a big fan of his. Before I started comedy and learned about comedy and learned about his general personality, I loved him.

Oh, I would watch all of his shows so many times and I'd be like, this is the... It's genius. Well, also the stand-up shows. The one with the Bible where he talks about Noah Sark and he impersonates these animals in the queue to

Noah Sark. Oh my God, it killed me. It was the funniest thing I've ever experienced. And you learn about comedy and you kind of hear him talk. First of all, he hates fat people with such intensity that it doesn't even offend me. I'm just like, oh, I think he's not okay. Okay, wow.

When you watch that new show of his, what was it called? The one where he's, the Netflix one. Oh, right, yeah. What's it called? I don't know. Yeah, something, Life After Life. After Life, yeah. Yeah, After Life.

And there's a fat joke every 30 seconds. And it's him hating fat people. It's him, like, mocking his fat co-worker. It's people saying stuff about his body but not really as much as like he hates and in his shows as well he tears fat people apart

it is so it goes beyond you know oh someone does jokes about fat people it's like I think Ricky Gervais

should talk to someone yeah really he has an issue okay but that's just my interpretation I think for most parts it just really really hurts fat people yeah and it's just my interpretation. I think for most parts, it just really, really hurts fat people.

Yeah. And it's just really shitty. I wonder where that stems from. I think he must, I think he hates himself. I think he hates his own body. I think he's been, I think he's,

I think he has achieved everything, right? He's world famous. He's hosted whatever that show was where he had to go to the Globes, something, something, where he got to make fun of people. He wrote and directed an episode of Kirby Enthusiasm, and I was like, he's peaked.

That's it. He's like, that is incredible. Well done. I mean, he's created some of the best TV shows we'll ever see. Like, it is the best characters. He's met probably everyone that's worth meeting. And the one thing he doesn't have is, like, general respect from his peers,

which is why he does shows like Talking Funny, where he gets to sit with Louis C.K. and Jerry Seinfeld. And, oh, who was the last one? It was, like, three huge comedians. Okay. I can see his face in my head, but I can't remember what his name is. That's really bad of me. So that's why he sits with these huge comedians. It's, like, the weird fourth guy. I can see his face in my head but I can't remember what his name is. That's really bad of me. So that's why he sits with these

huge comedians. It's like the weird fourth guy. And they're all like having a nice chat. And he's just like trying to join in and they're like, no. I've not seen this. You have to see it. It's on YouTube. And he's really trying to be like, yeah, you know how when you're a comedian you're like this. And they're like,

no. No, that's not how we... Really? That's interesting. Chris Rock. Chris Rock. Wow, so massive names there. Exactly. And then Rigatube is trying to be like,

yeah, I'm like one of you guys, and they're like, no. It's really awkward. And they're not agreeing with him at all? No. I mean, they're being nice to him, but you can tell he's just not one of them. He didn't start on the comedy circuit

the way other people did. And then I think he doesn't like the way he looks. I think he doesn't have that and he doesn't have the looks that he feels like he should have based on what he deserves. And this is just me, like, pocket psychology. Analyze this guy I've never met. Because I have friends who've met him and gigged with him and he's supposedly really nice. He should be super lovely. But I think that's in my head.

I'm like, that's why he's an uncomfortable person. It's just like he, I think he hates himself, and I think he's annoyed that he doesn't look like Brad Pitt. I think that's it. I think so he just hates on fat people. And then there's the whole atheist thing. Now, I think people can believe and not believe the way they want, but it is militant atheists.

It's just people who have not understood the point. It's really embarrassing. I think it's embarrassing the way he tries to tear apart religion. People who believe in God believe believe that's the whole point you know i know that a lot of religious people uh think they know and that's how it feels because you believe and the whole point is i believe that this is a thing and the whole point is that i can't know that is why i need to believe yes yeah so for someone to go oh yeah prove it you're like well that's well that never happened that's not a thing

it's not going to happen it's about believing it just feels like he's missed the point completely he's just why would you also I think

if it gets you through the day if it's like if it's the peg that you hang a lot of your life off you know let people get on

just don't challenge that it's not hurting rigged your vase and some people are praying. I know. I wish, I mean,

I've been praying for him to disappear off the face of the earth and it's not worked yet. So listen, mate, don't mind God. Wow, okay. No, no, no. That's too much.

No, it's not too much. He's annoying. He's really annoying. Yes, yeah. His whole, he's just so, I really wish he would, someone would just sit him down

and be like, you're looking for the wrong things in the wrong places. Maybe look inside and maybe learn to, you know, love yourself and care for yourself and, you know, place value on other things than like how rich. Also there's, oh my God, there's this Twitter account. I think it's called like Rigor Gervais Trivia or Rigor Gervais Facts or Rigor Gervais Fans.

Okay. Which is clearly Rigor Gervais. It's clearly him. Do you think so? Oh, 100%. I'm going to have to look this up. It's facts that no one else have. So it's like,

Ricky Gervais is the richest man in blah, blah, blah. Or like, Ricky Gervais owns 40 cars. Or Ricky Gervais sold out blah, blah. No one's asked for this. No fans care about this. So it's like his team.

And then he keeps retweeting it as well like oh oh my god look at what other people are saying about me it's you does he it's 100% you you can't retweet that stuff it is 100% you yeah and it is so and it's just this like he is the tallest man in the world he's birthed a thousand children and they're all gods now like it's yeah why does you why do you like why do you need that it's so weird i get being needy i get being insecure i get feel having internalized blah blah blah about yourself but don't make it to also not feel to also not be aware of it that's the thing you're like you but you still think you're the best person ever but we can all see this mate we can all see yeah we

just need to go through it okay yeah I think it's, I definitely, I'm with you because I think my first introductions were his show with Stephen Merchant on Radio X. He did the show with Carl Pilkington and then I think that was the first time I really paid attention to him and then obviously The Office was great.

I don't know which came first actually. And I thought that was fantastic. But sort of to see where he is now it's all a bit Brian McFadden I think isn't it? I want to get along with the island this is so awkward

I know I'd end up being friends with a heckler yeah I'd love if they had a Twitter conversation off the back of this do you know what I mean? just those two agreeing with each other if either of them were listening to this

that would show how small they were yes they'd be like let's see what this 30,000 followers person has to say about us who are really rich. Maybe you.

I've only got two. Okay. Ricky Gervais. Anything else on Ricky Gervais before we put him on the island? Wouldn't it be good

if he on the island found God? Because he was it would be a way like none of all of his accomplishments if he on the island found God? Because it would be a way, like none of all of his accomplishments would matter on the island, would it? We would all just be humans and they'd both have to,

all three of them would have to just become part of a group instead of these individual, egotistical people. And then suddenly we were just there and we all had to kind of join in. Yeah, because we're not going to survive just being one of those people on an island, will you? and we all had to kind of join in yeah because we're not going to survive just being one of those people on an island will you what a great way

to win that okay i think so oh he just killed me immediately because i'm fat okay well uh thank you very much so ricky gervais is going to be a third choice thank you very much sophie you're a podcast listener and this is a podcast ad. Reach great listeners like yourself with podcast advertising from Lipson Ads. Choose from hundreds of top podcasts offering host endorsements, or run a reproduced ad like this one across thousands of shows to reach your target audience with Lipson Ads. Go to LipsonAds.com now. That's L-I-B-S-Y-N-Ads.com. Now, mercifully among the wreckage of the plane there was some food

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British sausages? I cannot. I cannot. And I eat most things. Okay. Go on, please. I can't. I'm sorry.

It's just really gross. It's really... Danish sausages are amazing, and they're perfect, and they're tasty. Oh, really? So it's not sausages in general. Danish sausages are brilliant. But the same with a lot of food. It's just Danish stuff is really good.

Yes. My friend Mark made them for me once, and it was the first time I'd tasted them. And he's like the nicest guy and he's also quite in many ways insecure so he was a bit like oh my god I'm going to be cooking for some for you for the first time he's going to make this like sausage sandwich okay and so he was and then he just said half as a joke but half also meant that he was just like oh I hope you like it like please like it because otherwise this would be really embarrassing and I was like yeah of course I will oh, I hope you like it. Like, please like it. Because otherwise it would be really embarrassing. And I was like, yeah, of course I will.

So I had to sit in front of him and eat. Oh, I couldn't. And I was. You hate it. Every time he looked away, I had to like spit into my hand. Oh, just get rid of it, did you? And then, oh, like I couldn't. I couldn't.

So what's the. It's the consistency, the taste, the smell, the way it looks. It's everything about it. It's just kind of grey looking and not. Yeah. Oh, it's grey. It's a consistency, the taste, the smell, the way it looks. It's everything about it. It's just kind of grey looking and not, yeah. I mean, I think British sausages are fine. But the only other sausages I've tried, I think, is a chorizo. Is it sausage? Yeah. But I mean, I haven't, I'm not particularly cultured.

So I, so, you know, I've had British sausages, but I don't know any different. Why is a Danish sausage so good? And also, I mean, we, I don't even know what, but I don't know any different. Why is a Danish sausage so good? And also, I mean, I don't even know what the difference is. There's a lot of like a Danish hot dog, like a Danish French hot dog. Oh, so you get this like it's like a slim, very red sausage. Like we call them red sausages. Oh, it's beautiful. It sounds nice.

Oh, it's so good. There's no like lumps in it. Oh, God. Which is like the worst thing them red sausages. Oh, it's beautiful. It sounds nice. Oh, it's so good. There's no like lumps in it. Oh, God. Which is like the worst thing about British sausages. I would say it. That it's gristly and lumpy. Yeah, well, just give it a few more whips in the blender. Yeah.

And then you put, and then you have this soft bread. It was between sausages and bread. Because British bread is very, very, very, very, very rarely soft. It's always very dry. Yes, you're right. It's so dry. Where Danish bread is very, very, very, very, very rarely soft. It's always very dry. Yes, you're right. It's so dry. Where Danish bread is like... God, why is Danish food so good?

It's so good. My theory is, and I don't know if it's true, this is my guess, I think we have more regulations in terms of what you can put in your food. Yes. And also it's more expensive. So I think, I don't know what comes first, but Danish food is in general just more expensive. So I think there must be something about

what you put in it I'm desperate to try some Danish sausages and some Danish bread you can go to not for the bread but you can go to a Scandinavian kitchen

in London we can also order it online you can get sausages there Danish sausages can you? yeah what you get you get the Danish

hot dog bread then you get Danish sausage then you put Danish remoulade which is I don't even know what it really is. It's like a relish or something. Yeah, sort of, but it has to be the Danish one.

It's not the same. Okay. And then ketchup, and then dried fried onions, and sliced pickles. All of it in the Danish brand. It is the best thing in the world. It sounds so good.

It is the best thing in the world. I'm salivating. I've just had a croissant on the way in. I feel a bit sad. I'm a bit sad. Okay. I miss home. British sausages. And what's going to be your drink choice?

Danish schnapps. Danish schnapps. It's going to be your worst drink? Yeah. Okay. I thought I needed some balance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To stack up your country quite a lot. It's not just the taste of it. It's taste of...

So what is it then? It's an alcohol. Yes. You take it in shots. You wouldn't just drink it. It must have a really high alcohol. I assume like 50% alcohol. Okay.

Really strong. Yeah, sort of licorice-y, but... I don't even know what... Oh, no. Like Sambuca or something? Yeah, something like that, but worse. I think the first time I met Alfie Brown, comedian Alfie Brown, who's an amazing comedian, a very nice guy,

I met him at a gig, and he was drinking something like whiskey or vodka, like raw, what's it called? Pure. Yeah, yeah. And I was? Like not, what's it called? Pure. Yeah, yeah. And he was all, and I was like, oh God, like, oh, I couldn't do that. And he was like, I thought you were Danish.

This whole thing of like, oh, I can do this. You can't do this. And we're at a Nordic bar when this happened. So I was like, excuse me, can I order one schnapps for Alfie Brown, please? And I was like, here. And this is not just like a Danish drink. It's a Christmas drink.

So during the Christmas, you have it like with your brunch. You have it like with your dinners. You have it all the time. Like it's super, super normal to drink schnapps in the Christmas,

over the Christmas lunches and stuff. And like everyone, it's super, super normal to drink schnapps in the Christmas, over the Christmas lunches and stuff. And, like, everyone. It's just a thing. And Alfie Brown took one sip and cried. He cried. Alfie Brown cried. Perfect end to that. I was like, there we fucking go.

What, can you drink to your butt now? Another one for Alfie, please. You weakling. Yeah. But it's also endemic. It's like, if you can't drink it like it's just not acceptable it's like oh you're not drinking the snaps

and you're like but it tastes like like petrol it's so so did you have to drink it at home at Christmas I've drunk it a few times but I now have

I've always been quite good at resisting peer pressure so I'm good at saying I don't want to yeah so why are you how old are we

yeah but it is a thing it's like you kind of have to in a way it's like part of it you have to get drunk on schnapps oh god

okay yeah is it part of it that it's warming or something to your body or is it like it must be it must stem from that

I think that's what most gross things are right it stems from one time when you couldn't afford whatever you need yeah exactly but I think it's also it's things are, right? It stems from one time when you couldn't afford whatever you eat. Yeah, exactly. But I think it's also just like a Danish,

like this is what we do, we're all in it together. Oh, this is us, yeah. Yeah, a Danish culture is very much don't think you're better than anyone. So if one person drinks the petrol, you all drink the petrol. Yes, I hate that mentality. It's awful. I think it's also something you can buy in Scandinavian Kitchen

if you feel like I'm probably lying and it's not as bad as I'm saying it is. It's it. I think it's also something you can buy in Scandinavian kitchen if you feel like I'm probably lying and it's not as bad as I'm saying it is. It's it. Yeah. I know at some point in my life this is going to come up and someone's going to say, would you like to try? And I'm going to have to give it a go. You have to. At that point, I'm going to message you and let you know.

So I'm going to go and try Danish sausage, but I'm not going to try Danish schnapps straight away. Yes. Okay, thank you very much. Now, fortunately for you, Sophie, you won't be without entertainment on the island. The plane's entertainment system continues to work, but just your luck, it only has two working settings. One is your least favourite film of all time

and the other is your least favourite song. What are they and why? So, the movie would probably be I Feel Pretty. I Feel Pretty. By Amy Schumer. I don't know if it's by Amy Schumer. She was just in it.

I don't remember if she wrote it or if she... It's recent, right? Fairly recent, yeah. So I've not seen it, but I know the film. Please tell us about it. So. Okay. This movie has potentially ruined my life and my career.

That is why. Okay. So there's several layers to life and my career. That is why. Okay. So there's several layers to it. There's the fact that it's bad. There's also the fact that me watching it would feel like a slap in the face every time because it would remind me of how much it may have fucked up my career. And then there's also the fact that everyone who then would later, when I was saved from the island, unless I'd killed myself,

which sounds like the worst thing ever, or Brigitte Rees had killed me, then when everyone found out that I'd had to watch that on the loop, they would take great pleasure in it because they know my relationship with it. So I saw the trailer for I Feel Pretty. The concept is Amy Schumer,

who we all know is just like, oh, the worst, you know? Oh no, she's so ugly and fat. What? No, she's not. She's like five kilos for being perfect, right? She's, you know, the way you're meant to look as a woman is like white, thin, blonde, beautiful, tall. Like she's all of these things,

apart from maybe there's five kilos extra on her, right? But in the movie, it's like she is the worst monster in the world. How would anyone ever? That's how it's told. Is that the premise of the film? Yeah, it's like, ah! Like she goes into, there's a point when she tries to wear like a skirt and everyone's like, oh my God, you're the monster.

Like it's not. Anyways, so then she falls and hits her head and then like loses her mind and thinks she's beautiful. Isn't that, can you imagine thinking you're beautiful if you're Amy Schumer, right? That's the whole point. Crazy, right? So then she goes around acting like she's beautiful and everyone's like, this is so weird. She thinks she's beautiful.

What an awful concept. Yeah. And then, so then it's about how, and like she has this really great job. I don't remember what it is, but a really great job. But then she can become a receptionist, which is below her what she makes now in paychecks. She'll get paid less, have less responsibility. Fine, if your dream is to be a receptionist, fine.

Fine, yeah. It's just because she has to be beautiful to be the receptionist. Okay. So then to be a receptionist, fine. Fine, yeah. It's just because she has to be beautiful to be the receptionist. Okay. So then she becomes a receptionist because she's now got the confidence of someone who's beautiful. And then, anyway, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. At one point, she then hits her head again, and then she realizes she's ugly. And then she does this really big speech. It's something about makeup.

There's a whole thing about makeup. Right, okay, okay. You just wear makeup. And then There's a whole thing about makeup. Right, okay. You just wear makeup and then there's a whole thing about, also like as fat people you often get told, you know,

oh, if you just like believe in yourself, blah, blah, blah, but that's not how things work. Like people are always going to hate fat people. So I just tweeted

like a little thread. I was just like, oh God, Amy Schumer is so close to looking perfect. Like it shouldn't be like the only way she could possibly think she's beautiful

if she hit her head and it's like a sci-fi film. Imagine if an almost perfect person thought they were perfect. How laughable is that? Also, she has a fat friend in the film who's not even mentioned,

who's just like there. Why? Who's Aidy Bryant, who's incredible. So there's this thread where I was just like, ugh, blah, this looks shit. Like, this is, I hate just like, oh, this looks shit.

Like this is, I hate the way people are, you know, you're the world and we're women. Go to sleep, wake up. This has been placed on Twitter moments. No. Which is like everyone in the world looks at this. It has been seen six million times. Oh, my God. I had so many comments from like people just, you people just telling me to kill myself and all that.

That's quite normal. But the thing is, the headline was, People furious over Amy Schumer's new film. But it was only my tweets. And then that was picked up by Huffington Post and Bustle and Refinery29 and CNN and New York Times. Everyone. And all the headlines were,

everyone hates Amy Schumer's new film. They only had my tweets. No one else had tweeted about this. Everyone hates Amy Schumer's new film. I know. So, you know Bill Maher? Bill Maher? I never remember his name.

Bill Maher, Bill Maher. He's this American talk show host who's... Oh, yeah, yeah. He used to be, like, quite liberal, but now I think he's quite right-wing, or maybe you thought he was... Okay, yeah. He's this...

So there was this article that said... I'd been... At this point, it's still, like, Google Alerts. Never again. And it said something like Bill Maher, Sophie Hagen, and I was like, right, what is this? And it said something about, again, Amy Schumer's new film, and I kind of read it half, sent it to my manager, and I was like, right, what is this? And it said something about, again, Amy Schumer's new film, and I kind of read it half,

sent it to my manager, and I was like, this is fun. He wrote, wow. And I was like, well, it's not like he mentioned me on the show, and he went,

no, no, he did. So I watched the clip, and Bill Maher has my face, my Twitter profile, like American TV going, she's an idiot. She's an idiot. And like,

he's trashing me and my opinions about this film. He's like, something like, Amy Schumer's not perfect why do you say she's not perfect like something

and I was like holy shit what's happening what is happening to the extent where when I met I met an American comedian in Australia

I was just like oh hi my name is Sophie and she went are you the person who ruined Amy Schumer's film and her theory and I don't know how true it is,

was that it basically flopped, this film, and it was based on my tweets. I don't, that sounds too mad. I didn't know that this was going to escalate to this. I know. It sounds too mad to be true, so I don't want to take credit. Also, it's not,

it was never personal against Amy Schumer. Like, she's just doing what she needs to do. And I also get that she doesn't look perfect in Hollywood, blah, blah, blah. Sure. It's more like a general comment about how the world works and the way that this is a realistic film for people to like because that doesn't make sense.

But fuck me. My manager met Amy Schumer and she said, oh, who else do you represent? He was like, ah, just some people. Really? Yeah. I don't know how. Amy Schumer retweeted Bill Maher after he did that bit and was like

thank you so much for the support so like she has she knows she knows obviously she knows that I did this are you planning

going to America anytime soon riding that wave yeah let me fuck up some more careers most of the comments I got

and Amy Schumer her big thing was also to say well you haven't seen the film yet. Wait till you see the film. So I had to watch the film and I watched it. And I was right.

I was right about everything. It was shit. So I think having to sit on an island, watching that on a loop. Oh my, yeah. Especially if I then ended up liking it. I was like, oh, you know what? After the 50th watch,

it's not too bad. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know if you'll be convinced. The premise sounds awful. It's so awful. How closed minded of Hollywood to think mean, I don't know if you'll be convinced. The premise sounds awful. It's so awful. How closed-minded of Hollywood to think like, oh, you know, this is okay. It's so

bad. A lot of people have told me that they really liked it and they thought I was wrong. People I actually respect and I was like, okay, but I'm not wrong. You're entitled to your opinion, but you're wrong. I'm not wrong. As if it escalated to that. It was insane.

What did it feel like to be in the middle of all of that? Well, I've been that for a few times. I've often said things on the internet and it's escalated. I've been in online arguments with like Piers Morgan and James Woods and like a lot of people. Well, that all sounds fine. It's just a thing. Ben Shapiro, what's the name of him? Milo Yiannopoulos, all those people.

It always feels a bit surreal because people very much project a lot onto you. And, you know, it's just like it's six tweets, you know, like I'm one person tweeting this thing. It's not like I'm the president of the US, you know, Like when he tweets something, that could start a world war. Just like a person. And yeah, I affect some things, but it's not like... But what's it like to wake up and be in the middle of that? It's like, right, whatever I had planned, I can't do now because I need to sort this out.

It's a lot of like pulling away. Like just like not reading my... Distance yourself, yeah. Not reading the replies, you know, you have to just make sure that you're, just double check

your address is safe and that, you know, you don't, yet you haven't tweeted like, I will be at the blah blah venue on Friday. All of that stuff. Yeah, and then like

when you get offered gigs and stuff, you have to say, I can do it, but you don't want to announce it because then they will call the venue and be like, you shouldn't hire her,

she's a blah blah blah blah blah, say all these things that's scary yeah they're quite they're quite scary sometimes so emotionally it's more just about it's just a lot of admin a lot of like blocking people and you know oh god you know have to get close some accounts some comments and stuff so i guess to ask another question uh is it worth it? Not really. No? I mean, it's not worth it in terms of... I just have no idea because no one cares what I say. I mean, it's...

I don't know if it's worth... I mean, as often tweets where I've gone like, oh, my life wouldn't have been worse if I didn't tweet that. Sure. Like, I didn't need to say this. But also, I don't really... Some things I wouldn't tweet again, but't tweet that. Sure. Like, I didn't need to say this. But also, I don't really... Some things I wouldn't tweet again, but something like that,

yeah, I'd probably tweet that again because I was right about that. It's not like a... I think you're right. Maybe I would have described it a bit better, used some more, like, statistics. Oh, we can always think

about these things a bit. Hindsight's a wonderful thing. The amount of times I've written a tweet, I think, oh, this is really funny, and I start writing it, and halfway through, I think, this isn't funny and then i'll just delete it and it's really healthy to do that yes and i think something like that like the things that have happened to me has

made me go okay this has to be phrased really well i have to have really thought about this before i do it because because of the worth of things you when something blows up it's screenshotted you can never take it back. Yes. And it'll come back to haunt you forever. I've had four-year-old tweets brought up in interviews and stuff. It's just like, really? Something like, wow.

Yeah. So then you think, okay, I really need to be able to stand by this in four years. Okay, yeah. So it does make you think a bit more, which is good, because I've meant most of the things I've said, but there are ways of saying them

that won't make stupid people think that you're wrong. Is my future self going to be able to justify this? I mean, I feel like this is all very interesting. I think I could ask you questions about this all day. What I'm saying is I'm excited for The Island. I know, I know. I'm sorry that I've done this to you. But I feel pretty the film, I think I could ask you questions about this all day. What I'm saying is I'm excited for The Island I know I know I'm sorry that I've done this to you but I feel

pretty the film I think very justified choice and as you said having to watch that one repeat for the rest of your life the memories that's going to bring up and what's going to be your song choice so I don't think I hope no one knows it because it's so bad right it's a Westlife song okay it's like a B

side it's like a B-side. It's like hidden away. It's called Bad Girls. I would like to read, can I read you the lyrics? Oh, I'd love to. Because the lyrics are the reason. Yeah. I'm not going to sing it, but imagine it being very bad. No, go on.

It was sort of like, and this is from ages ago, I don't know when, like 2001 or 2002 or something. And I think their point was that they wanted to sort of go viral or the version of viral that was back then. Right. Because what they basically just do is they just give like a shout out to every country in the world in a really gross way. So it's bra top, tank top, doesn't really matter because they're all so hot. I'm going loco in Puerto Rico.

Dark hair, tan skin skin skating on the beach playing innocent they drive me crazy in Miami they know how to make me wanted, craved, needed I love how they tease me it's a bit rapey it's the good things that bad girls do

that makes me want to sweat feel them wet all over my body this is Westlife like five Irish all dressed in white innocent people who've all married their girlfriends

from their hometown apart from Mark his boyfriend it's the good things that bad girls do each city day or night they're so fine

I'm going out of my mind also night and fine doesn't rhyme nice smile so wild every girl wants to get her party on they break all the rules in Cancun so sweet you need to constantly pinch yourself to believe the games

that they play down in LA and then at one point they just go trying to cram in as many london city and madrid got some bad girls mexico and brazil got some bad girls dublin city and jakarta got some bad girls stockholm city and berlin got some bad girls kuala lumpur and miami got some bad girls gotta really really love those bad girls it's so bad they're so bad it's unbelievable and it's partly how bad it is how rapey it is but also they don't mention copenhagen oh you're gutted all the bad girls in

copenhagen i focus on koala lampoon yeah i know it's like it's like they're um when they're writing it their management right okay okay this is where you get the most downloads or whatever. This is where you sell the most singles, mention these places. Here are the places where you're not selling as well. Selling as well. Yeah, that's it, isn't it?

You have to mention Dublin because that's where you're from. And they're like, oh, but we can't mention Dublin because that's too, oh, Dublin City. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, right, okay.

And he's like four syllables. Also, did you see him perform live? Did you? Yes, I did. Every time they were in Copenhagen. Sleep outside the venue for three days

and then speak me back. Would you really? My stepbrother would walk past and he wouldn't, I'm like, hey! He wouldn't acknowledge you. He wouldn't acknowledge me.

He'd just run around Copenhagen in my sleeping bag. There'd be like, people coming up to me like thinking I was homeless going, are you girls okay? Do you need to? And we'd be like, no, fuck off up to me, like, thinking I was homeless, going, are you girls okay? Do you need to? And we'd be like, no, fuck off.

Excuse me, we're the Westerfans. So we could be at the front of the... It's not bad. At the front. Oh, my God. When I was 13, my banner said, my name is... Hi, my name is Sophie. Remember my name because you were screaming it later.

Because I didn't know what it meant. I just thought, like... I didn't know it meant sex. I just thought it meant, remember my name because you were screaming it later. Because I didn't know what it meant. I didn't know it meant sex. I just thought it meant remember my name. So I was like, why were they never looking at me through this whole concept? Because they were like, there's no way. Okay, bad girls. I mean, I've not heard it, but it sounds awful.

I can't wait to have a listen. Thank you very much. And finally, the island is overrun by the biggest dick of all the animals. Which animal is it and why? Mice. Mice. Is that a popular choice? I mean, we often get rodents on this podcast.

But I think it's a very good choice. Please tell me about mice. There's something about mice that makes me so anxious. It makes me... Obviously, on an island, it would probably be all right because there's lots of other it would probably be worse to have, I don't know, like a tiger.

But it's the Oh! I think I have actual PTSD from I had mice in my room before I moved. I'm still hoping none of them will turn up in my new flat. I'm so scared all the time.

You think they're going to follow you? I'm so scared. What, did you move upstairs or something? I'm so scared. Oh, what do they mostly... Oh, you mean upstairs from the flat. I thought like, oh, is it only upstairs? Because I'm on the ground floor now.

You were so scared then. So I was watching, what was that really famous, the really popular Netflix horror show, House on Haunted Hill, Haunted Hill House, or Hill House Haunted. Okay. Do you know what the one,

so I was watching it, and it was like in the dark, middle of the night, had the volume up, was looking at my phone, and like at the timings, be like, okay, it won't come, it won't come,

it won't be there, and it's just like seconds counting down the seconds, knowing that for 20 seconds, I'd be fine, and then my mousetrap caught a mouse, and it was just like seconds counting down the seconds, knowing that for 20 seconds I'd be fine. And then my mousetrap caught a mouse, and it was just like, I died. I was like, I'm going to die now.

It was so horrible. I know killing animals is not ideal. I don't have a car. There's no way I can take, if you take the mouse outside, if it's within something like four kilometers, it'll just go back, come back in. So you have to be able to take them five kilometers away in order to get rid of them. Oh, it's justified. I think it's within something like four kilometers, it'll just go back, come back in. So you have to be able to take them five kilometers away in order to get rid of them. Oh, it's justified. I think it's fine.

I mean, I just know that I looked into other options. I also looked into the poison that would just kill them in their sleep so they won't even feel it. But I did that, and then they were taking little showers in it. They didn't give a shit, like looking me in the eye, showering in it.

Pieces of shit. The mice I've had have had no respect for me. They're running across the floor, and I've stomped my feet. And they'd stop and look at me like, what? What are you doing, you bitch? They have nothing. They're not scared at all. They'll stare me down.

So the only thing that's ever worked, traps. So I've had them up, and it caught this mouse, and it took me, I had to call my sister. I was shaking, crying. I took three T-shirts and threw it over the mouse and the trap in order to just not touch it. It took me an hour to be able to take it up, put it into a bag, close the bag, put that in a bag, close the bag, put that inner bag close, the other bag close,

the third bag close. Really? Like, whilst crying and panicking, like, my sister, like, it's okay, it's okay. I'm like, can't do it. And I finally got back, I took it outside, finally got into bed. And then another one. Oh, no!

Oh, no! And I placed it, and again, lost another three T-shirts, took another hour. Then I heard, then I walked into the kitchen and it had caught one in there as well. And I was like, I can't do it. I can't do it. So I just ignored that one. The next morning, I heard my housemate go into the kitchen, and I just started screaming. I was like, no!

I don't know what I thought. I was like, what if she steps on it? What if she touches it? I don't know what was happening. I was just like in this really... And it's just like you can hear them, and then you don't know where they are, and then you can hear them a bit again,

and then you have to wait for that sound. Oh, it's awful. I cannot. Okay, this is justified. This is an awful choice. Imagine an island. You land, and it's just. I cannot. Okay. This is just far. This is an awful choice. Imagine an island. You land and it's just overrun with mice. You can't get any food off of them.

You can't make a coat out of mice. You know, it's awful. Sophie, this has been fantastic. Thanks for having me. Thank you very much. Thanks for coming on. You're very busy, it seems. Yeah.

You're doing a lot. I see you on a lot of podcasts. You've got some fantastic podcasts yourselves do you want to tell the listeners a little bit I imagine you're

the reason that they're listening to this but should they not have heard your podcast Made of Human is one where

I just chat to people I really love doing it it's an hour or so I just chat about life stuff

the point is I try to figure out how to do life and it turns out no one knows no one knows you feel less alone listening to it you're like oh out no one knows. No one knows. You feel less alone listening to it. You're like, oh, God, no one knows.

It's great, yeah. Thank God. Then I have Secret Dinosaur Cult, which is a very strange live comedy podcast that I do with Jodie Mitchell where we discuss daddy issues and trauma and a bit about dinosaurs. And it's very culty. I love doing it. And I'm on tour. Yeah, you're on tour.

You've got a tour. So, yeah. For the whole thing. I don't know when this is coming out, but like. Today. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, it starts on Sunday in Winchester.

And I'm going all over the UK till June next year. That's amazing. So you're going everywhere. It's going to be so fun. Yeah, more or less. And more dates will be added. I think the best thing if you ever want to see anything or hear anything I do, my newsletter is the way to go.

That's the main place where... And I share a lot of secrets. I shouldn't be telling people in that. Do you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think people read it, so I just tell everything. It's very... My manager tells me not to do it.

So my newsletter is like my main plug, I think. But yeah, so I'm going to be all over the UK with my new show, The Bum Swing. It's about memory and bum swings. Bum swings. Yeah, loads of stuff. I have a BBC comedy special coming out in October. Yeah, I have shows. So busy.

I have so much stuff. So how can people sign up to the newsletter on the website? Sofiehagen.com. That's Sofiehagen with an F, S-O-F-I-H-A-G-E-N. And yeah, it just pops up a little sign in sign up button

thing and then you'll get one or two emails a month with loads of secrets

and very personal stuff in it oh that's great okay cool and on social media where can people find you? Sophie Hagen

on Twitter Sophie Hagen DK on Instagram which stands for Denmark not dick and yeah so Sophie Hagen S O Instagram, which stands for Denmark not dick. And yeah,

it's just Sophie Hagen, S-O-F-I-E-H-A-G-E-N. Yeah. People listening in London, I'm doing a bunch of

work in progress shows with Mark Watson who cooked me that sausage. Which is a thing I wrote

about in the newsletter, knowing he wouldn't read it. But then one of his friends apparently read it

and then was like, did you know Sophie Hagen didn't eat the sausage you made? Oh, you snitches. So we're doing a shit ton of, I shouldn't swear this much, I think like a weekly gig from October to December where we share two hours

and do just work in progress, trying out new stuff, which is going to be a lot of fun. The tickets also on sophiehagen.com. Oh, well, thank you so much Sophie thanks for having me