Desert Island Dicks - SUKH OJLA
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That's L-I-B-S-Y-N ads.com. Hi, I'm James Deacon and welcome to Desert Island Dicks,
the show that sees you marooned on a desert island after a plane crash
with the worst people and worst things imaginable.
Who they are and why they're a dick is up to you.
And here to share their Desert Island Dicks with us today
is actress and comedian Sook Odsla.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello, how are you?
I'm really good.
I was really excited.
I know.
I probably overshot my mark there.
No, it's nice.
Welcome.
Thank you so much for coming in.
Thank you for having me.
I really appreciate it.
Yeah.
As always, let's dive in.
Yes.
Who's going to be your first person?
First person is going to be Carol Vorderman.
Carol Vorderman.
Vorders.
I know.
And do you know what?
No, do you know what?
I'm not guilty.
I don't feel guilty about this at all.
But everybody used to, I remember coming home and watching Countdown after school.
And I loved the wordy part of it.
You know, making your words out of the letters.
Yes.
And I just, she just comes across as such a smug cow and i don't know if
it's because i was in the intermediate class for maths at school it's a big deal when you go to a
grammar school because you're treated like a dunce um they're like the highest mark you can get is a
b it's like right you know until about 2008 i thought i was really stupid because i went to a
grammar school anyway yeah oh my. Oh, my God.
Yeah.
It's only when you start talking to people and they go, oh, I got like a D in maths.
I'm like, I was made to feel bad because I got a B.
Oh, my God.
Anyway, so I don't know if it's because I hated maths or if I was quite jealous of her
being able to do multiplication like quite easily or what have you.
Or because I just, I found her so annoying.
And then there was a time in every time
you'd open
one of those crappy
magazines like Heat
or whatever
everybody would be like
oh but look at Carol Vorderman
isn't she really hot
and I'd be like
no she's not
no I don't
she's not
but no the people did
she was yeah
voted like
oh she's like
the thinking man's crumpet
or whatever
oh yeah I know
do you remember this
and the whole world
had gone mad
people loved Carol Vorderman.
Yes.
I cannot stand her.
So she really used to annoy you.
Yeah, and she'd be so annoying on a desert island.
Yeah, I think she would.
Well, she was in the jungle, right?
Oh, was she?
Didn't she go in?
Did she go in the jungle?
I'll be honest, the jungle's the only reality TV programme that I don't watch.
Okay, right. I'm afraid. Love that I don't watch. Okay, right.
I'm afraid. Love Island, I'm there.
Yeah, okay.
Jungle, you can fuck off.
She's less likely
to be on the...
She's less likely to be on Love Island, yes.
Because you've got to be 21.
And have tits around your ears.
You do, and you have to have
3 million Instagram followers.
Yeah, at least.
Or something ridiculous.
Carol Vorderman.
I don't remember her ever annoying me that much,
but I definitely see where you're coming from.
Yeah.
How do you feel about her replacement, Rachel Riley?
See, then I just stopped watching it.
Okay, so you're not interested?
No, just not interested.
See, that's what she did.
She lost Countdown.
Valuable viewers.
That's how annoying she was.
And I loved the guy.
He died, right?
He did, yeah.
Richard Whitehouse.
Do you want me to look it up?
No, it's fine.
I'm going to say it's Richard Whitehouse.
Yeah.
He looked like a Richard.
Yes, yeah. Sweet, lovely guy. And then the camera would pan to borders I'm going to say it's Richard Whitehouse. Yeah. He looked like a Richard. Yes.
Yeah.
Sweet, lovely guy.
And then the camera would pan to borders and I'd be like, oh, what a prick.
Do you think?
Yes.
There's a smugness.
Yes.
Definitely with her little pencil cut dresses and her maths and her big pen.
Did she have a big pen?
Yes.
Did she?
It might just be in a Sharpie, I don't know.
I don't know.
So you like the word, you like doing the words, but less so the maths.
Yeah, probably a lot more to do with me and my own issue with mental arithmetic.
I always struggle with that bit.
Yes, I think if you're really good at mental arithmetic, there's something wrong you i do i'm just gonna say it yeah might be a slightly divisive statement
but i think any normal interesting person can't do mental arithmetic that well because their brain
is too full of interesting facts about things or yes okay quips quips. Quips!
Is that to replace this mental arithmetic?
Yes.
Quips, yes.
Carol Vorderman, yes, okay.
An interesting choice.
I must say that I feel like
I've always been indifferent
about Carol Vorderman
and I don't think she's ever annoyed me.
I do sort of recall her
being a massive part of my childhood
but I don't remember why.
I feel like at one point she was just everywhere.
Yeah, she was.
She was a massive part of pop culture,
and just for being on Countdown.
Yes, I don't think she did anything else.
Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it, actually, how that can be.
But who decided?
Who sat down and went, right, OK,
the Sugar Babes have changed their line-up for the 58th time.
Yeah.
Who can we talk about now?
I know, Carol Vorderman.
I know.
It's mad, isn't it?
Did she just have a really good PR agent?
I don't know.
I think there was just less channels.
Yes, that might be.
We had four channels, didn't we?
Oh, you probably don't remember that, do you?
Yeah.
Remember four channels?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
I think I remember Channel 5 being launched. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, okay. I think I remember Channel 5 being launched.
Yeah, I remember that.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Yeah, nice.
Okay.
Okay, Carol Vorderman.
I think, did you say she's the thinking man's prophet?
I remember that phrase.
I used to be obsessed with magazines.
As a teenager, I used to read all of the magazines.
And that was the phrase that was used back in 2000 and 2000 probably yeah it
was wonder who coined that thinking yeah awful didn't someone um didn't someone before this we
were talking about desert island discs right now lauren laverne presents desert i'm not sure who
said it but didn't someone get in trouble for saying lauren laverne was the the crumpet man's
thinker which i think is just brilliant i love love the plain words, but what does that mean?
I don't actually know.
I just think it's great.
I just think whoever swapped it around is, yeah.
Anyway, I think they got in trouble for that.
So I may or may not leave that in the podcast after I've done a deep Google.
If that's an ongoing court case, then I will do that.
If not, I'll leave all of this in.
Yeah, great.
Might be a very short podcast.
Yes, I think you're right. So thank you, great. Might be a very short podcast. Yes.
I think you're right.
So, thank you so much.
Carol Vorderman is going to be your first choice.
Yes.
Unless there's anything else on Carol Vorderman?
No, I think that's about it.
Okay.
Yeah, I definitely feel calmer now.
I've got all that off my chest.
That's Carol Vorderman.
And who's going to be your second choice?
Anna Kendrick.
Anna Kendrick.
Now, this is an interesting one to me.
As soon as I googled Anna Kendrick, I knew exactly who Anna Kendrick was.
But you didn't know before, did you?
I don't think so, no.
Go on.
That's not, by the way, that's not why I don't like her.
Okay.
Anna Kendrick has a face that I really want to punch.
Really?
Why?
I want to punch her in the face with a chair.
Really? Yeah. Wow. why i just i want to punch her in the face like with a chair really yeah yeah yeah like a proper hefty like wooden dining chair not like a collapsible number not like a deck chair
like she really i don't know what it is this is probably not gonna make for very good listening
because i don't even know what it is that annoys me about her that happens sometimes it does doesn't
it i wonder what that is maybe she reminds me do
you know what it is go on anna kendrick looks like those girls that i went to secondary school with
that would pretend to be your friend oh for like on day one or like for the first couple of days
and then you'd go and sit next to them in the canteen at lunchtime and they'd be like uh what do you think you're doing
really that kind of turnaround and she has that written all over her yeah she's got snide bitch
written all over her face she wow anna kendrick and you know what i watched no shame i'm gonna
say it um i watched all of the twilight movies okay nice and i thought she was good in them okay but then
i realized that that's just because she was playing her annoying self and she was acting
opposite people who had all the charisma of a snotty tissue so maybe that's why she was really
good and then i watched pitch perfect because i thought well you know i quite like this premise
for a film it's like you know quite kind of female led. Yeah. Awful.
Hate her.
Can't stand her.
Even when I see her on the side of a bus, she makes me so angry.
Like she actually warms me up.
Wow.
Like it's so much anger that it actually eats me up.
Oh my God.
I don't know if that much venom has been spoken about someone without actually knowing exactly why.
No idea why.
No, it's just because of her face.
I'm not ashamed to say that I am this petty.
Oh my, Anna Kendrick.
Interesting.
But, and also because some of the men
that I've spoken to about this
have said that they really fancy her.
Why?
Interesting.
They're like, oh, she's really talented
and she's really beautiful.
I'm like, really?
Oh, that. They're like, oh, she's really talented and she's really beautiful. I'm like, really? Oh, that's quite cutting.
Anna Kendrick, wow.
I don't know.
Okay, so do you think Pitch Perfect, should she have not been in it,
would be your type of film?
No, because Rebel Wilson was in it and was doing that whole kind of,
oh, yeah, I'm really fat, so that's really funny.
That's a good impression.
No, that's not on me.
Okay, yeah.
Let's move on.
We're not doing that.
Okay, yeah.
So maybe the whole film was problematic.
Right, okay.
Anna Kendrick.
I mean, I don't know.
You probably don't know.
There's probably not enough
to kind of say about her.
No, she was on TV and something
the other day, I'm sure.
And I was thinking
hmm this is interesting
it's quite wooden
I'd say it's quite wooden
there's not a lot going on
yeah
and I feel like
she's just playing herself
hmm
just really annoying
bratty
American
so
it brings back
memories of maybe
school
yeah
or a type of person
at school
yeah
it's just got that
kind of pinched face.
And I think girls will know what I'm talking about.
Okay.
I'm interested to hear.
Yeah, there's a bitchy face phenomenon.
When people connect with that,
they often get in touch via social media.
Do they?
Yeah, tweet us, let us know.
Wow, it will happen.
It will happen.
You might not want it to, but it's going to happen.
No I just I know that I only
know one other person who can't stand her that's my
friend Alex. Okay
who brought it up first?
Oh I don't know but I remember having a
conversation with her that went on far too long
about Anna Kendrick.
Anna Kendrick
I feel like I've said her name
a lot and now it doesn't make any sense
It doesn't
Do you know what I mean?
Once you've gone too deep
She's massive though right?
So there must be
something going on
She's very famous
Oh she's just vapid though
It's like
Why?
Do you think
Can she sing?
Is that what it is?
Can she sing?
I'm assuming she was
in Pitch Perfect
Oh you didn't watch it
Oh you watched some of it Well no but i'm assuming because she was in pitch
perfect that she can sing right okay yeah i've blocked a lot of that film out of my memory yeah
okay um maybe it's that but i don't find her particularly charming either even made myself
sit through an interview with her and made it to about 40 seconds.
Did you?
You just gave up?
I just gave up
because I thought she's,
I can't,
I just felt so wrong.
What films do you love?
What films do I love?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Wow, you put me on the spot here
so I'm just going to say
the first thing that came into my head.
Go.
Normally I censor myself
because I'm also an actress as well
and I feel like
I should like really,
I love films.
I love anything with Jason Statham in it.
Do you?
I know you didn't expect me to say that.
No, I didn't.
I will watch Jason Statham all day long
and not because of the way he looks,
although that certainly helps.
I love really formulaic films.
So Jason Statham,
I find his films quite soothing
because I know what's going to happen.
I know that he's going to be playing this outcast
with a violent past, possibly, you know, ex-army,
ex-SAS, whatever.
And then he's going to be sent on a quest somehow.
Probably not, probably a mission.
A mission's probably better.
Yeah, so he's gonna be
sent on this mission and then he's gonna meet at least one beautiful lady but oh it's jason statham
and he can't love anymore because he lost someone when he was really young and now he just can't
give himself like that to anyone but then they sleep together anyway because yeah this is basically
every man and then yeah and then he
does the mission
and then he
like you know
I was going to
say beats off
but like fends
off
that's a different
show
he fends off
he may do in
that film doesn't
he
in that film
where he has to
keep his heart
right up
I'm sure he does
beat off
yeah see that
I don't like
no
that I feel like is making a mockery of the genre.
Really?
Yeah.
That's such a world-class genre.
I mean, those films sell well, don't they?
Yes, they do.
And don't blame me for liking them,
but let me put you in a scenario here, right?
Statham is in a film and it's like tipped people are like wow
he's really made the genre good anna kendrick is the co-star oh god what what do you do are you
going to watch that film no it's your favorite you clearly love that type of film is it more like
crank or is it more like transporter or is it more like Transporter? What's your favourite?
Oh, fuck you.
The Transporter.
Oh, shit.
This is like Sophie's Choice.
But harder.
But harder.
I will watch it, but I won't watch it in a cinema.
Okay.
I will watch it and then I'm going to watch it on mute with
subtitles on so we don't have to listen to a bloody voice
There you go, that
bad then. But also that's how much I love
the Stace. You need to see
him in action
Oh I
think there's a, there's almost
a podcast in that, you watching all of Jason
Statham's film with the sound off
Yes! Doing the commentary And he's brilliant. Can I just say It's almost a podcast in that you watching all of Jason Statham's film with the sound off. Yes.
Doing the commentary.
And he's brilliant.
Can I just say, Jason Statham, I've got a lot of respect for the man because he never really attempts to do a different accent.
Like, it doesn't matter who the character is.
He's like, no, I'm sticking with this accent.
Or sometimes he'll attempt it and then halfway through the film, you can tell the director's just given up.
Okay. But there's like a certain type of film, you can tell the director's just given up. Okay.
But there's like a certain type of film that only Jason Statham's going to be in.
It's true, yeah. Like, who else?
Like, who is his competition?
Yes.
Who else could pull off their genre?
I'm just trying.
No, I mean, that was poor.
That was piss poor.
I'm very sorry.
Full marks for trying.
Again, maybe was poor. That was poor. I'm very sorry. Full marks for trying. Again, maybe.
Okay, Anna Kendrick.
I feel like you fully justified Anna Kendrick.
And thank you very much, Sook.
And who's going to be the third choice?
Bear Grylls.
Bear Grylls.
Bear Grylls.
Bear Grylls.
I don't know if it's Bear Grylls or Bear Grylls.
Bear Grylls.
That's continuity, isn't it?
Either way, cannot stand him.
Now, I was a bit conflicted about this
because I thought maybe he'll be quite a good person
to have on a desert island
because of his survivally background.
Yes.
But he'd be so annoying.
I'd probably kill him in his sleep.
You bet he would. Yeah yeah he'd be too busy
telling me what to do or like drinking his own wee or like going mountain climbing and i'd be like
fuck off bear i just want to read a book like yeah i mean all my life i've wanted everyone to
leave me alone yes and now this is where i am exactly Exactly. Okay. Bear Grylls. I find him really annoying.
Yes.
Frustrating, isn't it? Yeah.
Yeah.
Super annoying.
Yeah.
And now he's got another show.
Has he?
Yeah.
It's like Celebrities with Bear or something.
Or Bear Celebrities.
I don't know what it is.
But it's one of those where he takes people wild camping or survivaling or whatever it is.
I know that's not a word.
I feel like what's happened there is Bear's gotten quite famous.
Yes.
But doesn't have any famous friends.
Right?
And so what he's decided is he would devise a format
where he can meet really famous people and then keep their numbers
and then every now and again he can invite them around
for like an awkward dinner.
Yes.
Maybe.
Where he straps them to a chair and then it's like
oh you're not going to be able to get out of this yeah how's your coco van how's your coco van
also i don't feel like he really needs the money now does he to do this no i don't think so i'm
pretty sure that he comes from a fairly privileged background as well i'd say he probably didn't need
the money to start with yeah but you're right. So fuck off off my screens
with your combat trousers.
I hate it
in the island with Bear Grylls
which I haven't watched since the second
series. The first one I really liked.
The second one I was like
maybe the format is tired already.
And now they're on their like fourth or
fifth and you're thinking
but... Is that celebrities or normal people?
Celebrities.
Oh.
I think it's just celebrities, right?
Or maybe they do the Celebrity Island.
Oh.
No, no, no.
Sorry.
Are you confusing things?
Yeah, no.
I'm just actually thinking.
And when I think, no, there is one with regular people and celebrities
and as soon as they did the second celebrity one that's when it became tired one with everyday
people i think is still fine i haven't watched one in a while i imagine it's fine but i would
watch one if i remember to watch it um but he but what i do like is just seeing different people from society
that you walk past in the street every day
and seeing them on an island starving.
That's how you get your kids.
No, having to deal with each other is what I meant to say.
Yes, of course.
And being like, oh, actually, you know,
I never would have thought we would get on,
but actually we get on.
So more of a social experiment. A social experiment. Pavlov's on, but actually we get on. So more of a social experiment.
A social experiment.
Pavlov's dogs, but with humans.
Maybe.
But what I don't like about it is Bear Grylls is in it
at the beginning and the end, and he sets it up,
and he goes to the island and tells them what they've done right and wrong
and being like, oh, great, you built a shelter.
But he does these VTs in the middle where he's like he's clearly just gone there in one day and filmed all the vts see lazy we can
add lazy to the lazy but what he does for them is he like sweat they make him look sweaty and like
makes him a bit dirty and stuff and so it looks like he's been on the island but he hasn't he's
sitting in a studio in twickenham. Yeah, or something like that.
Oh, gosh.
Or they've just taken him to an island for a day.
So he's not even on the island the whole time?
No, he isn't, no.
So why does it need to be on the island with Bear Grylls?
I don't know.
Or Bear Grylls Island, or whatever it's called.
You know, because he's like the survival guy.
He drinks his own wee and he lives inside an animal or something.
Do you know what I mean?
But he probably lives in bloody Hampstead
or something
absolutely
and um
so he literally
just turns up
and says right
you've built that shelter wrong
yeah at the end
he'll just be like
he'll just turn up
and be like
oh well done for building
a shelter
but you know
you could have done it much better
well why don't you stay here
and earn your money bear
yeah exactly
yeah
I know
joker right Bear Grylls um devil's advocate right done it much better. Well, why don't you stay here and earn your money, Bear? Yeah, exactly, yeah. I know. Joker. Right.
Bear Grylls.
Devil's Advocate, right?
He might keep you alive for a minute. I don't think he
would. No? No. Okay.
I honestly don't think he would. Do you not?
I think he'd turn up on the first day
and then he'd
fuck off and be like,
by the way, this is my new show.
Sucks in trouble.
Hidden cameras everywhere.
Just filming you.
Oh, no.
I'd be all right
as long as I had fresh water,
I think.
Fresh water?
Yeah.
Okay.
Because I think you can survive on that.
Yeah.
For a bit.
And then obviously
like a couple of snacks or whatever.
Yeah, you would need some snacks.
Probably need some snacks.
I think some snacks.
And Wi-Fi. But then I'll be be fine and as we established earlier maybe a smart tv
yeah um okay bear grills what else about bear grills i mean uh i imagine he's got massive ego
yeah absolutely i mean he's gotten pretty famous out of doing the same thing over and over again.
Yeah.
And I also get a feeling that he's not very charitable.
I think he's got one of those faces.
I mean, that is so hard.
I don't mean in a kind of, like, I'm sure he's, I don't know,
got a monthly direct debit to Amnesty International or whatever.
But I think that if you were to meet him on the street and be like,
oh, mate, I'm really struggling, you know,
lend us a pound, you probably wouldn't.
That is so harsh.
I think he's got...
That is so harsh.
I know it's a bit specific, but I do.
I think he's got that kind of sweaty smugness about him,
which, as we now know, is all makeup.
He doesn't even sweat.
See?
It's a sign of a psychopath.
Yeah.
I think he's...
I'm trying to think.
I'm trying to make a pun on the Crumpet Man's thinker.
But I think he's just like the non-thinking man's Ray Mears.
I don't know.
See, Ray Mears.
Yes, that I'd be interested in.
You know.
All day long.
Yeah.
I'd learn something then.
Brilliant.
It's not all about him.
I imagine, actually, that Bear Grylls was sat at home
watching Ray Mears thinking,
I could take this to Channel 5.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Something like that.
And I think because, I suppose, objectively speaking, he is good looking. Yes. I mean? Yeah. Something like that. And I think because I suppose objectively speaking
he is good looking.
Yes. I suppose. Yeah, he is.
And I think
I did find him attractive when he was first on
telly years ago. Okay. And I was like, oh
then I thought, oh no, you're just really annoying.
Ah. Maybe
there's added disappointment on your part as well.
Yeah, possibly.
Not really, it much for picking bear girls
yeah these are all people who i feel have wronged me in the past yeah in some way or another um
oh yeah um hmm maybe there's something much deeper about these choices than face value
you know a lot of childhood stuff there there is isn't there? Carol Vorderman and my inability to do
monthly arithmetic. Yes. Anna Kendrick
and all the pictures I went to school with
and then Bear Grylls and
some kind of rejection
Oh my god
Did you think of that before this moment in time?
No I didn't. Interesting
Okay I think that's the perfect
moment to leave Bear Grylls on the island
Okay Bear Grylls is going to be a third choice.
Thank you very much.
Yes, thank you.
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of the plane there's some food and drink left over unfortunately for you it's your least favorite
food and drink in the world i'm very sorry what are they and why are they so bad um muscles food. Food is going to be mussels?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Okay.
And I know that I'll probably have to end up eating them
because we're by the sea and should probably eat,
there's probably going to be plentiful seafood.
Crustaceans or whatever.
But what, even the word just makes me heave.
Mussels, I don't get it.
I don't get the thing about mussels.
They're just little bits of sea snot in a little handbag.
They're just really weird.
They are weird.
And the texture is gross.
I can't even bear to watch people eat them.
And I've just been on holiday to Lanzarote where it's an island,
really, really good seafood.
No, I would not do it.
And when people dress it up as, oh, more frites. I'm like, oh, fuck off.
I'll just have double frites, thanks.
I just don't see the point.
Or like when you can see people eat them
and then they've just got this whole mound of shells
and then they're like mopping up the liquid
that they've excreted with bits of bread.
And I just, honestly, I think I've just like...
Do you feel a bit sick?
I feel a bit sick.
I can't talk about it.
I've got some bile come up in my mouth.
Well, to add to that bile,
so have you eaten them?
No.
Or is it just...
No, and then I had an allergy test done last year
because I'm middle class like that now.
And she said,
oh, muscle, you're allergic to muscles.
Really? Yeah. But then you're allergic to muscles. Really?
Yeah.
But then you had contempt for muscles before.
Previously, yeah.
Massive contempt, yeah.
And the people who eat them.
And so from that, you found out that had you actually tried them.
It wasn't going to be fatal.
I think I probably would have, I don't know, got a...
A rash?
A rash, yes. I don't know, got a rash. A rash, yes.
I don't know.
Yeah, probably.
Or some kind of swelling.
Yeah.
I don't know what you get.
What do you get?
I don't know.
She said it's just a slight, yeah, probably like a rash or something.
Something.
Something skin related, I think.
Okay, but you've never tried them?
No.
No intention?
I'm also not a fan of seafood in general.
Right, okay.
Yeah.
I thought I could eat calamari, and then I went on holiday,
and I was like, great, some really fresh calamari.
But the texture was like, it was like human flesh.
It's all like, what I imagine human flesh to be like.
And then I realised I only really like the cheap calamari that you get,
which is like a little bit rubbery and crispy,
which I quite like. I do like that. But not like the cheap calamari that you get, which is like a little bit rubbery and crispy, which I quite like.
I do like that.
But not like the really thick.
And then I was like, oh, this just actually tastes like what it was.
Right, okay.
Yeah.
You'd rather be slightly detached.
Yeah.
And it just felt like I was eating raw squid.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Your face is turning.
Really?
It's that bad?
It was gross. Do you eat fish? No. No. Sorry. Your face is turning. Really? It's that bad? It was gross.
Do you eat fish?
No.
No.
Okay.
I don't.
My family comes from like a landlocked part of India.
They come from Punjab.
So fish is very much seen as a delicacy.
Ah.
A bit of a luxury.
Okay.
Yes.
No fish.
So no.
I don't mind a bit of smoked salmon.
Okay.
Every now and again.
Oh, you're on to the cross.
We're fancy now.
But yeah, like even cod.
When people are like, oh, but you must like fish and chips.
I'm like, no.
Nobody should eat cod.
Your face has gone very serious.
I'm very serious.
Stop eating cod.
We're running out, I think.
Are we?
Yeah.
How often do you think it's probably just some other fish
and no one knows or cares?
Just whatever the cheapest possible option is.
Yeah, it could be.
Maybe.
Like the whole horse meat thing.
We wouldn't have known that.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, how many people are going to call up a fish and chip shop and say...
Is it definitely that?
Yeah.
How often are they getting checked for quality control?
Yeah, what kind of fish is it i mean my fish and
chip shop hasn't changed their signage since the 70s i don't imagine anyone's been there to check
yeah i think yeah yeah okay uh i digress sorry um muscles yeah move on yeah okay um muscles
gonna be a food choice and what's gonna be a drink choice? Peach schnapps. Peach schnapps.
Ah, interesting.
Archers.
Archers.
Yes.
Okay.
It's one of the misspent youths.
Yes.
I was going to say, I can guess why.
Please, divulge me.
I went to someone's 18th.
And I don't even remember whose 18th it was.
But it was above a pub in the small town that I'm from.
In a function room above a pub and um
and i think i because i think you do start drinking when you start drinking like kind
of sweeter things yes and um it's easier to get down yeah so it's like arches and lemonade
oh right okay i drank for a while and then i got so drunk on it and my parents didn't know I drank.
Still don't know.
My parents didn't know that I drank.
Hey, guys, you're listening to this.
What are the chances?
And I went home.
I don't even remember getting home.
This is how drunk I was.
Don't do it, kids.
It's not...
Stay in school.
And I remember... stay in school and I remember
stay in school
I remember
being on the toilet
and throwing up
into the sink
next to me
I had all
I had like
both taps on
because I was trying
to hide
me throwing up
and I was just
violently ill
and then I could
just take
you know
you can just taste it
for like,
even like the next day,
it doesn't matter how much
you like brush your teeth
and your tongue
and you like rinse your mouth.
No.
Now,
every time I'm sick,
it tastes like peach schnapps.
Oh no,
really?
Yeah.
Because it was that bad.
Disgusting.
You've got to have drunk,
you've got to have drunk
a lot of peach schnapps
to get that drunk, right?
Yeah, yeah.
You gave it a good go.
Massive capacity.
I mean, I'm definitely an overachiever.
Are you really?
I like to give it a good go.
Do you?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Peach snaps.
Have you tried it since?
No.
And you just can't?
Even the smell of it.
Even the bottle, I can't even look at it.
Wow.
Yeah.
It was a really bad experience.
Oh, my God.
So they don't know that you drink?
No.
Interesting.
You'd think that after that, I'd be like,
oh, I think I probably won't drink it now.
I saw a video of you in which you said
they don't know that you do comedy.
Imagine they do now, right?
They do now.
They didn't for a long time.
Right, okay.
And then I got on the telly, didn't I?
Okay.
And that'll do it.
Yeah.
And then they still didn't see me then
because I think it was on the red button.
And somebody came up to,
like one of my dad's mates came up to him in town
and told him one of my jokes.
It wasn't about him, was it?
Okay, good, yeah. My dad't about him, was it? No.
Okay, good, yeah.
My dad came home and he was like,
there's people talking about you in town
and is this one of your jokes?
And I was like, yep.
And now they're really looking forward to seeing me live,
so I will finally let them.
Oh, that's so nice.
Yeah, I will finally let them come and see me.
Were you worried about them finding out that you'd come here?
Yeah, definitely.
Look, you know, they came over here in the 60s and had to do really shitty jobs that nobody else wanted to do to make a living
and then here i am however many years later going yeah thanks guys but um i'm gonna go
and uh do this terrible thing uh in front of people i don't really know what i'm doing
and i'm not gonna get paid for it most of the time just so people can tell me how good i am uh thank you cheers for that right yeah cheers enjoy your
retirement i hope you've got some money put by because uh i would not be able to look after you
but i think for them as soon as people started stopping them in the street and saying oh she's
quite good isn't she then and then they were like yeah yeah we knew about it all along she's brilliant we're 100 behind her oh they've got to be proud they are now i don't
think they fully understand it and i'm not sure they ever will because they're like why don't
you want to work in a bank like what why don't you want some security and stability because that's
all they ever wanted um so i mean that i get i. We just come from different worlds. Yeah. I totally get that.
See you later, suckers.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
But they didn't know for quite a long time.
So when are you going to tell them that you drink?
Well, so I was going to...
So they're coming to see you perform live in March.
What better way to do it than in a room full of people there's only 400 people there they can't say anything in public uh no
i live with them so i don't want to be thrown out so what if they walk out no don't say that okay i
mean no that just sounds like an anxiety no but i do have to write a whole new 15 minute set because
at the moment it's just taking the piss out of my mum.
So I don't...
In, like, the most loving way ever.
But she's not going to see it as she's going to say,
well, people are laughing at me.
And they're not.
No.
They're just laughing.
So, yeah.
Any thoughts?
Please write in.
How do you...
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Interesting.
So, Archers. Yes. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Interesting. So Archers is going to be a good choice.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Fortunately for you, you won't be without entertainment on the island.
Yes.
The plane's entertainment system continues to work, but just your luck, it only has two working settings.
One is your least favourite film of all time.
The other, your least favourite song.
What are they and why?
Do you want the film first?
Whatever.
It's up to you.
Transformers.
I thought you were going to say the Transformers.
Film, Transformers.
Any one of the Transformers.
Okay.
Partly because I detest Mark Wahlberg.
Right, because he was in the running, right?
He was in the running.
Interesting, okay. But now we can talk about him.
Partly because I detest him because he's done all sorts
of shit and people have just gone oh mark walberg you know like beating people up and being racist
and yes yes and now he's got a uh a burger chain called wall burgers oh who signed off on this
and then he was on graham norton where he uh was like on something or like just incredibly drunk and he was just really rude and
um michael fassbender who i had a very unhealthy obsession with for a very long time
um was trying to tell a story and he was just very rude and i was like michael does not
deserve that level of disrespect it was personal it was personal I was incensed
and then he
did you see this tweet
there was a tweet of him
talking about his daily routine
oh yes I did
you know something like
get up at half three
and set my bed on fire
and then eat half a cabbage
and go for a run
and have an ice bath
and I was like
and then it's only
quarter past six in the morning
yeah
and then I was like also mate I said you've got like three kids or something
the fuck's looking after your kids yeah while you're off i don't know climbing a mountain or
whatever or spend some time with your children yeah stop being a dick he's like those men who
are like take up fucking triathlons and stuff it It's like, you just don't want to spend time with your family. Okay.
That's what I'm saying.
Yes.
I'm going to send this to someone that I know.
But he also employs me, so maybe I might. No, don't do that.
Okay.
But I am going to.
Yeah, fuck it.
Fuck it and fuck you, Chris.
And Transformers I hate because it's just like
being in a massive
washing machine
just when you watch them
they're awful
why the hell
just weird
like the whole
the whole robot thing
is weird
and Megan
thingy
what's her face is in it
Megan
Fox
Megan Fox
yes
I think
I think she's the
crumpet man's thing
yeah which is gonna make no sense if you don't keep in what came earlier I think she's the crumpet man's thinker.
Yeah.
Which is going to make no sense if you don't keep in what came earlier.
Just string together five words.
That's just what it is.
No, I find them really boring.
And I love all that shit.
You know, normally I love a bit of sci-fi or robots or AI or whatever.
But there's something about Transformers.
I'm like, no, it doesn't do anything for me.
No, okay.
And maybe it's because I was only allowed to have NHS glasses when I was a child.
Okay.
And I stupidly picked a Transformers case
because it was like upside down.
So it was like a really lovely purple.
And I took it home and I was like really happy
because my glasses are shit and I'm going to get beaten up for them. But at least I've got a really nice purple glasses case. And I took it home and I was like really happy because my glasses are shit and I'm gonna get beaten up for them but at least I've got a really nice purple glasses case and I took
it home and it had fucking transformers on it and this was before transformers was cool obviously
because this was back in the 90s um or whatever it was um yeah it was like 94 or something and
then I spent like the next six months trying to scratch off the Transformers logo with a compass.
Okay.
Did you get beaten up for it?
No, because I was a bit of a bruiser actually as a kid.
Nice.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Get you.
Yeah.
Right, no, I was messing with you.
No.
You even probably made Transformers cool.
Right?
Yeah.
I don't think I had that kind of sway though.
Okay.
Yeah.
If they said anything, you could batter them, but...
Yeah.
Yeah, it was more that.
It was more like...
This is really petty, but...
Go on.
Whenever I try to watch a Transformers film,
I just can't...
The sound effects just kill me.
It's just constant, like...
Yes!
That's what I mean.
Bang!
Every, like, ten minutes.
Yeah.
Like, what's the fucking fucking i still don't know what
transformer is i still don't i've sat through it actually had an audition to be in one of the films
it's like a very very tiny part a couple of years ago okay and um and it's like yeah of course i'll
sit around a table and be like oh the climate change is awful or whatever it was um is that
your line it was that was that one line it was It was like they wanted a brown face around a table.
Right.
I was like,
dude,
it's a table full of scientists
who should have like
all brown faces.
You should have told them
that in the audition.
This was also the audition
where they asked me
to do an accent.
Right.
And I said,
oh,
what accent would you like?
Knowing full well
what accent they wanted.
But I thought,
how bloody dare you just assume that I can do that? And I said, what accent would you like? And they went, oh, what accent would you like? Knowing full well what accent they wanted. But I thought, how bloody dare you just assume that I can do that?
And I said, what accent would you like?
And they went, oh, you know, no, I don't.
Which accent would you like?
Oh, like a...
Spanish?
My Welsh is really good.
They were like, oh, like an Asian accent.
And I was like, what kind of Asian accent?
And that's probably why I didn't get the part because I was...
Good for you, though.
Yeah, calling them out on their bullshit.
So this is personal.
Yeah, this is personal.
And also, I hate Mark Wahlberg.
God, fuck you, Transformers.
Exactly.
Right?
And fuck you, Mark Wahlberg.
So where were they filming it, then?
Like, Elstree or somewhere?
I don't know.
It didn't get that far.
OK.
Are you interested?
I don't know.
It was very kind of like, you didn't get the script. You didn't get... Yeah. Okay, interesting. It was very kind of like you didn't get the script,
you didn't get,
yeah.
Okay.
Yeah,
and I was like,
I went up for a really minor part
and they were like,
we'll just send you your line
and the line before it.
In London somewhere?
Yeah.
Okay,
interesting.
Right,
okay.
Transformers.
I know.
You bastards.
Exactly.
So stop it,
Mark Wahlberg,
go look after your kids.
Yes,
stop it,
Mark Wahlberg. Stop making new
Transformers films. Yeah, nobody needs it.
One just came out. It's the Bumblebee story.
What? Fuck off.
What is that? It's just like
the car.
Oh my God, I don't know why I know this.
The car, called Bumblebee,
which is the yellow one, has got
its own spin-off, like the story
of Bumblebee
Oh good god spare us
I know
Right?
Wow how do you know this?
I don't know
It's embarrassing isn't it?
Yeah
I'm not even a fan
I'm embarrassed for you
I know
I don't even watch that much TV
or pay that much attention to anything
Obviously you do
because you know all about the Bumblebee spin-off
I know
I know
Oh my god I'm a loser
The only way I can get behind the bumblebee spin-off
is if it encourages people to plant more wildflowers
to attract more bees.
Nice.
I thought you were going to say Jason Statham was in it.
Yeah, that's too obvious.
He could be in it.
Oh no, and then I'd have to watch it.
Can I Google this now?
Yeah, go on.
Oh my.
If Anna Kendrick said it, I'm leaving.
Okay. If they're in it together, go on. Oh, my. If Anna Kendrick said it, I'm leaving. Okay.
If they're in it together, you are.
Oh, no.
Right.
Jason.
No, no.
Don't search Jason.
Save him.
Bumblebee.
Bumblebee.
How do you even get this past the studios?
I don't know.
Who is it?
Oh, no.
You might be annoyed with me for this.
Oh, what? Is he in it? No, it. You might be annoyed with me for this. Oh, what?
Is he in it?
No, it's John Cena.
That guy.
Oh, yes.
Who's like, he was in WWE.
And he's like, sorry, I got them mixed up.
You did, didn't you?
Yeah.
But I'm quite relieved.
Okay, it's not him.
Okay, cool.
Okay, so Transformers is going to be your film.
And what's going to be the song?
A song by the New Radicals.
Do you know what I mean?
You only get what you give?
You only get what you give.
Okay, yes, yes.
Go on, please.
Awful, awful, earworm.
That just gets stuck in your head.
Yes.
Just proper white girl disco.
You know, there's like a time in your head yes proper white girl disco like I can't you know there's like
a time in your life
where you start becoming
really aware of music
and I think for me
it was
like around 12ish
not like I didn't realise
music existed
but like popular music
you get really into it
and I think I was like
around 12
when that happened
and then I used to
like start listening
to a lot of radio
lots of different radio stations
and then this song
was always on.
Every fucking time I switched on the radio,
this song was on.
And I just can't,
and what does it even mean?
Like I don't,
I cannot tell you.
I've listened to it so many times,
just not through choice.
And I don't,
apart from that one line,
you only,
even then we struggled saying it. You only get what you give. You only get what you give. Yeah. And that don't, apart from that one line, you only, even then we struggled saying it.
You only get what you give.
You only get what you give, yeah.
Yeah, and that whiny voice.
Is it called You Only Get What You Give?
Yeah, I'm sure we're going to have to Google it.
We don't have to.
Everyone knows the song.
Yeah.
I used to put in a bit of the song
and then someone told me that I could get in trouble.
Yes.
You only, we're doing this.
We're doing it. We're doing it.
We're both doing it.
I know.
We shouldn't both be doing it.
Here we go.
You get what you give.
You get what you give.
Oh, my God.
I think you can play...
Can you play a bit of the song?
You can't.
Even a little bit?
Even like 10 seconds?
No, you're actually not allowed.
The rule is none.
But everyone gets it wrong.
Because I thought it was like 10 seconds.
No, it's just I used to put 10 seconds in.
Yeah.
But it's like, I've gotten a bit nerdy about this stuff.
And I get sent emails about these things.
And it's just none.
That's it.
Wow.
You genuinely are not allowed to put any in.
So you have to buy the rights somehow?
Oh, fuck off.
I'm not giving you new radicals any of my money.
I know.
We've talked about them enough.
I mean, so this song is personal to me in a way.
I talk about it quite a lot.
I don't know if I ever have on this podcast
because I don't think it's ever come up.
Oh no.
Did you write it?
I wrote it.
And no, I didn't write i didn't write the front man um embarrassingly
it was the first song i ever bought i knew you were gonna say this i know i bought it on tape
oh and i must have been i don't know how old 10 11 12 when it came out? I'm not sure.
And I went to Virgin in town and bought it on tape.
You went to the big Virgin in town to buy it? On 99p or whatever it was.
I bought it. I played it loads.
But I find that so embarrassing.
The one hit wonder was my first song.
And, you know, a very, very average one at that.
Yeah.
They really were one hit wonders as well, weren't they?
Yeah.
That guy has written so many songs.
Really?
Yeah.
Greg Alexander?
Is that his name?
The front man.
The front man.
Are you looking at it now?
No.
I can't believe you just like threw me under the bus like that.
They didn't have to know that.
It's better if they do.
Transparency.
OK.
They were only active for two years.
They disbanded.
There we go.
Good.
I'm going to edit out the other bit
and you're going to look really knowledgeable.
Just going to look like you know.
You just make me sound good.
It was a top five hit here.
It was a top five?
You didn't get to number one?
It got to number one in Canada and New Zealand.
See, I have a weird
fact retention
of just really
things that are just useless.
Nothing important like mental arithmetic
obviously.
He wrote...
The only one I can remember that he definitely wrote
was Rollercoaster for Ronan Keating.
You know the ones that's like...
No!
Life is a rollercoaster, just gotta ride it.
Which actually, when you think of the two songs,
it kind of makes sense that he wrote both of those, I think.
Yeah, thematically they're very similar.
Very, very similar.
Yeah, and I think this one I struggled with the most because
if I don't really like a song
I just don't listen to it
of course you have that option
so like my Spotify is
Fleetwood Mac and Jazz basically
so I was like I don't really want to listen to anything else at the moment
and
but I just remember like being on the radio
or like in shops and
stuff like not being able to turn it off and this was like the days of pre-noise cancelling
headphones obviously so i couldn't really shut myself up yeah and it was everywhere it's different
yeah you've got to be i even remember like recording top of the pops and it being on one
of the top of the pops that i recorded that's it my God. It's just... It was from a time
where you just couldn't
get away.
Yeah, you just couldn't escape.
Less options.
Ship songs.
It's like Carol Waterman, right?
Yeah.
Less options,
so you're bombarded.
Mm.
Okay.
You get what you give.
Yes, that's the song.
By the New Radicals.
Okay, thank you very much.
And finally,
the island is overrun
by the biggest dig
of all the animals,
which animal is it and why?
Is it like one animal?
Is it like plural of the same animal?
That is up to you.
Mice.
Mice.
Okay.
Mice.
Fair play.
Oh, they're just little bastards.
Aren't they?
They really are.
I was going to say like spiders or whatever, but no mice.
We had a bit of a mice infestation.
Oh, you did?
Yeah, and it lasted forever because you just think,
and everyone goes, oh, just put peppermint oil on your skating boards.
And, you know, I did it all.
Peppermint oil filled up any kind of little holes or whatever,
like with foil because I hate foil because I can't chew through it.
And then I got not mice poison
but rat poison.
I got like weapons grade
rat poison from Amazon
which is probably illegal.
And then just
in these massive trays
just put them in every corner
of every room.
I spent a fucking fortune
getting rid of these mice
with bits of peanut butter on it
because they love peanut butter
so I was like they'll come for the peanut butter
and then they'll die but then
they didn't die
further enough
because generally they'll like eat it
and then they'll fuck off to wherever they're
going next and then they will die
somewhere outside the house but they didn't
the lazy bastards they died in the house
so then I had to dispose
of dead mice.
Oh, no.
And not only that,
not only did they not have
the decency
to go and die somewhere else,
but they were,
they're so bold.
What do you mean?
Well, I was in bed
and,
I don't know,
reading or something.
And one of them
hopped up on the radiator
and was on my windowsill looking at me
no wow just looking at me that is bold yeah or like i'd be on the landing um like getting the
laundry together or something one of them ran between my legs into my room yes my god that's
horrible do not give a shit.
They know exactly
what they're doing
when they're chewing
through wires
or they're chomping
on your birth certificate
or whatever.
Did that happen?
Oh my God.
I mean,
it's just like,
there's...
Yeah,
I think they're
bloody conniving.
I really do think,
now,
fuck off,
Stuart Little.
Yeah.
Like,
that's great PR for them.
That's great PR for them that's great PR for them
but I think
they're awful
creatures
an island overrun
by them
they are gross
as well
yeah
the idea of that
just like being
near you
at any time
yeah or like
hearing them
and you're like
I don't know where
they are
actually hearing them
is worse than
seeing them
I think
yeah
stuff of nightmares I was in there I was on the tube platform yesterday and they were just, I don't know where they are. Actually, hearing them is worse than seeing them, I think. Stuff of nightmares.
I was on the tube platform yesterday
and they were just popping in and out,
just like running near people, near your bag, near your feet.
No, on the platform.
Yeah, on the platform.
Oh, I thought you meant like in the little,
where the train comes, because that's where I see rats normally.
No, no, just like on the platform, just like popping out of sight.
Do you see what I mean?
Do you see?
This is a sign of the end times.
Um, sign of the end.
It is.
The apocalypse is coming.
Well, because they're that used to obviously being around humans.
So no wonder there was one perched on my waste paper basket.
Oh, what?
Yeah.
It's horrible.
Okay.
It's like foxes.
They're that close to attacking us.
Yeah.
And taking our...
I feel like with mice it's more because they can fit through a gap the width of a pencil.
Oh, no.
So they can just get anywhere.
Yeah.
And it got so bad that I was sleeping with...
But I would play as I was sleeping.
Sounds of cats meowing.
Oh, my God.
Because I thought that might...
No, they don't.
They're not bothered.
No, they're not.
They don't care.
I see that it's coming from a big box
and they're just saying,
I'm not pandering to this.
There's no cat here.
Exactly.
Okay, mice.
It's going to be an unusual success.
Thank you so much for coming in.
Thank you for having me.
It's been great.
I've really enjoyed it.
So we were talking
before you're going
to Edinburgh
I am yes
I'm going to make
my debut
oh debut
nice
with a show called
For Suck's Sake
and yeah
come along
I'll be starting
previews in March
okay
so yeah
okay
amazing and fantastic title thank you it's also previews in March. Okay. So, yeah. Okay. Amazing.
And fantastic title.
Thank you.
It was either that
or like,
suck my dick.
Was that close?
No.
And then your parents
definitely would have...
Definitely, yeah.
I definitely would need
to move into your spare room.
Yeah.
You would.
Save that one for later.
Right.
And that show title for sook's sake yes is also your twitter handle right it is so if people want to find you they can go on twitter or instagram
is where you will find me instagramming or tweeting about mice mark warburg and mental arithmetic. Nice. Look at that.
And I imagine when you like,
and I imagine you post your gigs up on there as well.
Yes.
Okay, brilliant.
So people, if they want to find out where you are,
they can find it there.
Come along.
Okay.
So thank you so much for coming in.
Thank you very much.
I had a really good time.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you.