Dhru Purohit Show - #215: How to Use Boundaries to Create More Freedom, Joy, and Happiness

Episode Date: May 19, 2021

Welcome to The Big Idea of the Week! On today’s episode of The Dhru Purohit Podcast, Dhru talks to us about using boundaries to create more freedom, joy, and happiness. In this episode we dive into: -Boundaries when it comes to expectations -News, social media, and information overload -Creating time and space for the things we want to give love and attention to  Also mentioned in this episode: -Dr. Rangan Chatterjee’s interview with Greg McKeown - https://drchatterjee.com/how-to-achieve-your-goals-effortlessly-with-greg-mckeown/ For more on Dhru Purohit, be sure to follow him on Instagram @dhrupurohit, on Facebook @dhruxpurohit, on Twitter @dhrupurohit, and on YouTube @dhrupurohit. You can also text Dhru at [phone].  Interested in joining Dhru’s Facebook Community? Submit your request to join here https://www.facebook.com/groups/2819627591487473/. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hi everyone, Drew Prode here, host of this podcast with another big idea of the week episode. Big idea of the week episodes are where I present a thought, a distinction, or an idea that's radically changed my life for the better. Today, we're talking about boundaries. You know, I came across a fantastic quote from my friend Dr. Rungan Chatterjee. He shared it on Instagram. I'll link to it. And it was from this week's guest on his own podcast. And that guest is Greg McCowan.

And Greg said, if you don't prioritize your life, someone else will. If you, you, me, anybody who's listening, if we don't prioritize our own life, someone else will. We have to fight to put boundaries when it comes. comes to the things that we care about. What is your life? Your life is the things that you care about, the things that you want to give love and attention to. That might be spending more time with family. That might be giving love and attention to projects that you're building out right now, a new business, a hobby. We have to make sure that we create boundaries around the things in life that we care about because boundaries are like walls. They're not. They're

modes, they create protection. And the protection they create, the walls that they set up, allow us to go deeper in life with what we care about. That's what this podcast is about today. If you don't prioritize your life, someone else will. How do you prioritize your life? You tap into boundaries. Society can be so nutty. Work can be so nutty sometimes. And there's people all around us that want us to make their priorities our priorities. But what if our priorities are not their priorities? What if the priority of the news is not our own priority? What if freaking out and worrying about every event in the world and being in a hyper state of fear, which is often the sub priority of the news? They may not be doing it intentionally, but that's really what it feels

like in some places, by the way, are doing it intentionally. You've all heard that if it bleeds, it leads. So let's show the worst of humanity because that means attention. And attention means advertising dollars. The priority of the news becomes your own priority. Now you've prioritized fear in your life because we don't have boundaries. So I've picked three topics here for today's big idea episode. to give you an example of what it looks like and present some questions for you

on the topic of creating boundaries in your life. What does it look like to create boundaries in your life? And the three areas that we're diving into today are boundaries when it comes to expectations, the expectations that others have of us and expectations that we have of ourselves. The next one is consumption. We are a consumer society. but we don't have to be a consumer society. There's a different way of being.

And consumption is not just physical things. It can be media, information, social media. The third area is time and space for the things that we want to give love and attention to. That new business idea, that book that we want to do, that podcast that we wanted to start, that creative endeavor that we wanted to give love and attention to, that nonprofit that we wanted to donate our time to, that we've been saying we want to give more attention, but we maybe haven't been.

How can we use boundaries as a vehicle to create some space around that? You know, when you have boundaries in your life, not only does it give you the space to give you love and attention to what matters, but because you're able to give love and attention to what matters and you're able to tune out the noise of what doesn't matter, not that it's about being perfect,

but overall you're able to give love and attention to things that matter and tune out the noise for stuff that doesn't matter to you, at least right now in the stage that you're in in life. When that happens, what's the result? There's more freedom. There's a deeper sense of joy. Freedom and joy when we have the combination of the two, then it tends to be, by default, happiness is a byproduct.

of that. So boundaries give us freedom. Now, boundaries are a scary word for a lot of people. When we think of boundaries, we think of walls, limits, constraints. And sometimes people cringe because they don't want to feel limited in their life. They like to be a little bit more unstructured. I was one of those people before too. I wanted to do everything. I wanted to be there for everyone. and I burned myself out. I went into hyper people-pleasing mode and I was there for everybody else's priorities and I wasn't there for my own priorities.

That's why I've used boundaries in my life to help me further along all the things that I care about. So now I hear these words and I get really excited. Without some boundaries in our life, it's very difficult to remain grounded In fact, one great example that we need a few more boundaries in our life, we need some limits, we need some constraints, one example is if you feel scattered, if you feel like you're all over the place, if you feel pulled in multiple different directions.

Now, we all will have moments like this, especially if you're doing something outside of your comfort zone. You're going to go through periods of growth where you're going to feel maybe one week a little bit more scattered than the other because you're trying to get a sense and balance it all or a life event happens a teenager of yours needs more attention a parent needs help with their health and you're one of their caretakers a business which was doing well is now spiraling downwards so there's going to be weeks where we are pushed where we're stressed but as we've talked about before in the podcast stress can be a good thing as long as we have the resilience to be able to

manage it. So this isn't about being perfect and always having a sense of equanimity and never being pushed or stressed. Again, stress can be a good thing. Exercise is a version of stress. Doing a sauna is a version of stress. Stress can help you become anti-fragile. Stress can make you more resilient when we can take it in doses that don't have us completely fall down and collapse because we've been so stressed that we didn't create boundaries to allow ourselves a period of time to heal. Just like you can exercise and then take a break and rest and take the next day off, but what if you exercised every day all the time for multiple hours? You're going to burn out.

You're going to burn your body out. So we have to make sure that we're in it for longevity. The other reason that, you know, people often shy away from boundaries is because they want the freedom in that moment to be able to decide whatever they want to do. And freedom is a beautiful thing, but without some boundaries in our life, we can get lost in freedom. We can get lost in freedom because if anything and everything is possible, we deal with over-inputs, over-stimulation.

And over-stimulation and over-inputs in our life ends up living us in a place where we go back to what we were talking about before. we feel scattered, ungrounded, lack of direction. We don't have time for the things, we don't have time for the things that matter most to us in our life. So let's take a big topic here. We did an interview with Dr. Nicole LaPera on boundaries where we dive deeper into the topic with her there.

But let's do a high-level summary about my approach to boundaries. And again, we have three areas that we're going to be talking about today. Expectations, consumption, and creating space for what matters most to us. Expectations is a big area in life when it comes to boundaries and our relationship with other people. Sometimes the expectations that others have told us that they want to take on. Well, actually, let me even take a step back.

Some expectations are implicit and some are explicit. if somebody tells you that they expect you to be a caretaker for them, right? Or to show up and be committed to this particular project or this volunteer opportunity, that's an explicit expectation. But a lot of expectations in life are implicit. They're sort of not exactly said, but they may be implied or we think that they're implied. Some of my favorite expectations to catch and be aware of are expectations that I think people have of me, but I'm not exactly sure. And this happens a lot with society.

We use that term, the general term of society. So keeping up with the Joneses, for anybody who's been in a place in life where they feel like, okay, I'm not making enough. I don't have enough nice things. I don't have as much of the external components, material possessions in my life. okay, who told you that you needed to have that? Maybe nobody told you that you needed to have that, but you felt the general implicit expectations of society because somebody else created something

or bought that fancier car and now all of a sudden you feel that you have to do that thing. So some of the best expectations to build boundaries around are even these expectations that nobody's told. us outright that we have to do. We've just internalized it through media, through just watching other people and how they live their lives, through social media, through movies. These implicit expectations become a part of our story and our framework if they're not questioned.

So partly of how today's podcast is organized is that we'll go through these three topics, expectations, consumptions, time and space for the things that matter the most. And I'll prompt you with some questions because as we know, the most important thing in life is awareness. We can't make any progress in anything that we care about. There's no progress that we can make on a particular topic, whether it's health or mindset, without first having awareness. So having the awareness starts off with understanding that sometimes there's things that we believe that nobody told us that we had to believe,

we just ended up believing them. So if you think about your own life, what are some things that you've internalized? What are some expectations that nobody's told you outright? We'll get to outright expectations in a second because that's another big part of life too. Are there things in your life that you've just internalized because you feel that society or the media or the spotlight

has expected that of you? We just interviewed Dr. Sheffali for a podcast. Dr. Sheffali who writes a lot about conscious parenting, has a new book called A Radical Awakening, which is really a guide for primarily women, but anybody can read it, in resetting the bullshit expectations

that they inherited over the years through society. And how things that they've been either told or not told directly, they don't have to be a part of their life anymore. This comes through Dr. Shevali's own story of going through her divorce and her own awakening process where she realized there's so many things that she internalized that she thought that she had to do that she doesn't have to do. Even as simple as why does she have to keep certain appearances up? If it doesn't matter to her, why does she always have to have her hair done or put on makeup?

Now, there's nothing wrong with getting your hair done. there's nothing wrong with putting on makeup before you go out. I want people to do whatever they want to do. At the end of the day, that's what matters most. Do you want to do it or do you not want to do it? Is it something that you feel that brings you joy? Is it not? And in her case, she was just using this as an example.

Why is there so much expectation placed around women's appearances? And some of that is outright. And some of that is implicit. Now, there's a lot of layers to that topic here, but let's just keep at high level. Somebody might decide, this comes up with my fiancee sometimes, we'll be going out to an event,

and she knows how much heels hurt her. And every woman can relate to this. Almost every woman can relate to this. She knows how much she just does not like wearing heels. And say, okay, babe, if you don't want to wear heels, don't. I don't care. And then she might share her list of implicit expectations

based on what everybody else is doing and why she would want to choose to wear heels. Again, no judgment on somebody wanting to wear heels or not wanting to wear heels. And I get that there are societal expectations. But when we have the courage to question those expectations is when freedom starts. So it was funny because one of her close friends

had a birthday party a few weeks ago and we showed up to that birthday party. And there was a woman that was there that was dressed beautifully, just like my fiancee was dressed beautifully. And she chose to wear sneakers at this very sort of posh birthday party that we were at. And my fiance looked at her and said,

oh my gosh, I totally wish that I would have just rolled up in sneakers. I said, baby, you can do that if you want to. Again, we're not making this about women and fashion and expectations that are there. This was just one example. that we're bringing up that I understand. I understand the pressures. I understand the pressures of being a certain,

wanting to look a particular height or the look that goes with a particular dress. Women have some, men have their others. And until we question these expectations and just say, what do I actually want? Even if we don't take action, if we just question them, that's where freedom starts.

But if we're not willing to question it, then we can't go down the path of freedom. So that's an example of implicit expectations. Nobody told her, Yasmin, my fiance, that she had to wear heels. But it's just around her. So her and many other women, my sisters as well too, I mean, everybody goes through this in some direction, implicitly just understand that that's part of the process until it's not, until somebody breaks the rules and decides to go in a different direction.

And there are explicit expectations. Somebody comes to you and tells you that you have to do this particular thing or I want you to. It might even be something that you agreed to do. Often that's the case. Somebody wants you to help out with this thing that they're dealing with in life. And maybe you said yes. A project, a commitment, a family responsibility. until you started getting the feelings that it was too much.

So here's a question for you on the topic of questions. Is there a commitment or expectation that's weighing on you? Something that you've been afraid to bring up or address. Is there a commitment or expectation that's weighing on you, whether it's implicit or explicit, something that you've been afraid to bring up or address? If you sit down and you think about it, think about your time. or their time commitments? Is there too much work on your plate at work or at home?

And we've never just had the opportunity to reset expectations. Or we've not been clear that we need to reset expectations or that we need more help from people. As an employer of almost 60 people inside of my organization, I can tell you, I'm so open to recommitting and re-addressing how much is on people's plates. And I constantly tell my team, it's too much on your plate.

you let us know because I'm not in your job, I'm not in your role, you're going to let us know when it's too much. And I remind people because I know we want to do our best. We want to impress our boss. We want to impress our spouse. We want to impress the people in our life. We want to show them that we can take on stuff and that we can be resilient and we can do a lot. But every so often, it becomes too much. This is why boundaries are so important. Boundaries protect us and make sure that we don't burn out and that we actually are not becoming a martyr in the situation. So because I know that people want to impress people and I want to impress people too, and I want to do a good job and have people say nice things about me,

sometimes I'll take on more than I can handle. And I got to reset. I got to take a step back. I got to listen to a podcast. I got to do a meditation. I got to say, is there too much on my plate right now? Do I need to reset some expectations in life? And actually what I've found is the more that I take.

on in life, the more that comes on to my plate, the bigger I'm showing up. Where now I'm not just running one company, but I'm running two companies. Or I don't have just two employees, but I have 10. Now I don't just have 10. I have 60. Or now I'm also running a podcast. The more that I want to do in life, which actually brings me joy, the things that I've taken on, and helps me leave my impact on the world in the way that I can leave my impact

and make a difference, the more that I have to be. begin, that I have to get good at resetting expectations, handing off responsibility, letting somebody know that this thing no longer works for me. I know I said yes in the beginning, but now things have changed a little bit. So I'd love to have an honest conversation about how we could reset. So first question for you is, is there something, a commitment, an expectation that's weighing on you, something you've been afraid to bring up or address because awareness is the first step always.

Having the awareness as I'm going on this monologue over here, and by the way, thank you for being here with me. I appreciate it. These big idea episodes are very different than our interview episodes. The little bit of a stream of consciousness on my end. So thanks for bearing with me. When we hear somebody talking about resetting expectations, we start to tap into the awareness of our own life.

We start to imagine ourselves in those situations. I say work or I say family responsibilities, and you're like, yeah, you know what? There's too much that I'm doing at home. And I need help. Okay, great. Awareness is the first step. Let's just remember that.

Awareness is the first step. It's not always that we have to take action. Sometimes we don't have the bandwidth. Sometimes we don't have the strength in this moment. But the bandwidth and the strength will eventually come. But the first step is awareness. So off of that question, another question, do you think that you would feel lighter if you were able to reset that expectation or in some cases let go?

If the answer is yes, then now we have a pathway forward. We have a pathway forward of a topic in your life where we might need to let our boss know it's too much going on. We might need to let our spouse know that we're overwhelmed at home or that we need more time. in our schedule so that we can give love and attention to this thing that we want to do that we haven't done in a little while only you know what matters most to you so our expectation doesn't have to be reset only a boundary doesn't have to only be created when we're overwhelmed and worked ourselves to the bone no sometimes it's coming out of a place of this thing is okay it's not even that bad but i need to create more space for myself

for self-love, for well-being, for a passion project, for an idea or thought or a business or nonprofit that I want to give love and attention to. So let's make sure we hear that because especially I think there's a certain classification of people, high achieving people pleasers who will wait for things to get really bad before they reset expectations in their life. You don't have to. You don't have to. You might just feel in your gut intuition that there is a different path that you're being led down.

As we go back to the original quote that we started off this podcast with, if you don't prioritize your life, someone else will. You may feel an inkling of a new priority, which by the way, means you're growing. If there's new priorities that are coming into your life, that means you're growing. So when something becomes a priority, it's natural that another thing has to be deprioritized to some degree,

to some degree. Yes, we can balance out multiple priorities in our life, but in general, there's only so much time and mental capacity that we have. So when something gets prioritized, especially when it gets prioritized greatly, we have to rebalance. And that's the process of resetting expectations. And that's the process of boundaries in our life. Really quickly, before we go into consumption, I want to just say this. what stops us from resetting expectations with each other, with other people in our lives,

and resetting expectations with ourselves, and resetting implicit expectations of society? Well, the number one thing that stops us is lack of awareness. We're so busy, we don't take the time to check in. How am I doing right now? How is life going? How do I feel? What do I want more of?

What do I want less of? If I don't know what I want more of, or less of, can I at least create some space for me to think? So the first step is always awareness. Every single person, Gabor Mante, Dr. Sheffali, you know, some of the people that I've mentioned on the podcast before that I haven't had the chance to interview, but maybe one day I will. Eckhart Tolle, Byron Katie. Everybody says, because it's true, awareness is the first step.

So we want to make sure that we're not so busy in life that we don't have the time to think and ask ourselves the important questions. Number two, what stops us from resetting expectations and creating boundaries in our life is the fear of letting go or even the fear of not being loved. Sometimes we think when we go to our business partner and we say, you know what,

we've been trying this business. I had this exact example. I dropped out of college to start my first company and I recruited my two best friends that I grew up with to be a part of it and grow this company. And we were busting our butt and we were learning and it was a lot of fun. But just outwardly and internally, it just felt like it wasn't working. We couldn't make it work financially and I started to feel like maybe this isn't the right

business for me. But I was scared. I was scared if I came to my business partners after about four or five years of us working on this first company, which was a design and programming agency. I was scared if I go to them and I say, guys, I'm not sure if I want to do this anymore, that they wouldn't want to be my friend or that they would be upset

because I was the person that looped them into this. I was the person that convinced them to not go pursue other opportunities and to come work with me. Now, the thing about that is if it's not working for us, it's not working for the other people that are also involved.

Whether they know it or not if an expectation is not working for me being the CEO of this company that I dropped at a school to start I'm not going to show up my best I'm not going to be as excited that's going to impact my work I'm not going to be as fired up and that's not actually going to impact the people that I work with so even though people might be upset they might be unhappy ultimately we have to realize we're not doing anybody especially ourselves a favor by not resetting expectations. In this example that I mentioned with my two best buddies

that I started this business with, when I actually took some time and stopped being so busy and said, I need to create a new priority in my life, so I need to set some new boundaries. And I opened up to them in that instance, and I've had this in other times in life,

doesn't always work this way. I said, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm just not. I'm realizing like, I don't think I'm good at running this company. And it's not fun. And I was even a little scared to tell you guys because we're friends and we work together. And in this example, again, this has happened before both of my buddies came back and said, we've been feeling the same way, but we've only been holding on because we thought that,

you know, you were holding on. So sometimes you reset expectations in life and you create a boundary by having honest communication and you find that the other people had the same thought too but i'm not trying to be romantic about this there are many times in life where you need to reset an expectation perfect example is you're in a relationship with someone it's not working out and you've been trying you've asked them to go to therapy and they've said no or you've worked through things with the therapist and still feel like you maybe are in different life paths there are times in life where somebody wants to be with you and they don't want to let go.

They don't want to give up on the relationship. And they're hurt and they're unhappy and they're upset. But at the end of the day, you have to realize that if this is not right for you right now, it's not right. And in the short term, you have to disappoint people. And in the short term, it may create some distance. But in the long term, it's going to create so much more opening for you to really actually pursue or go be with the person that you want to be with.

or go build out the area of life that you want to build out or be able to create that new business, which after leaving that first business and resetting those expectations, I fell into a new business and created it with a business partner mine, functional medicine doctor, and that took off and that felt much more in alignment with what I wanted to do. So the one reason we don't reset expectations is we don't have the awareness because we're so busy. Number two, we're afraid of letting go or not being loved.

Then number three, lack of action. Once we're aware and we know what we want, we sometimes justify to ourselves that it's not that bad. Let's just keep up with it. And really lack of action is still, goes back to number one, lack of awareness. We've really not sat down and thought about just how bad it is or how much it's interfering with our opportunities in life. That's a great opportunity to come back to meditation and thinking about what we really want. sit with it, sit with those uncomfortable feelings so that we can feel the pain of not having boundaries in our life.

Okay, great. Let's go to number two, consumption. This one's going to be a quick one because expectations is the big one that people deal with. Consumption. Can we benefit in life from having more boundaries when it comes to consumption? And that's not just material possessions. That's news. That's social media.

That's information overload. So a couple questions for you on the topic of consumption. Do I need to limit my social media intake? Would I be better off? Would I be happier? Would I be more focused? If I was paying attention to social media or the news a little less, feel it inside of you.

If you had some more boundaries in that category, would you feel lighter? Would you feel more focused? Would you get less caught up in the traps of comparison? Another question for you, could I benefit from a news fast? There's a lot going on in the world. right now. But by the way, there's always a lot going on in the world. But the news, which I've

shared this quote before, but I'll share it again from Reverend Michael Beckwith, the news is often a reflection of the lowest common denominator of humanity. The news is focused on what's wrong with the world. And there is a lot of stuff that's off and quote unquote wrong with the world. But there's also so much good. But if somebody showed you all day long the things that are wrong in the world, your internal nervous system is going to start to feel

that things are wrong in the world. No matter how peaceful your life is, no matter how much good you want to do in the world. So I created some boundaries in my life and I've done some news fast. Even on social media, I have a limiter on my phone that allows me to only spend a certain amount of time on social media.

And often now, today I'm spending even more, I'm spending less time on social media than ever before. So I'll typically only go on social media when I have something to post. Or I want to reply to direct messages and add value to the people who, who message me on Instagram or other areas. So consumption is a beautiful area to set boundaries on because it creates the freedom for us to start opening up time and more so mental energy. for the actual priorities in our life. It tends to be that we open up the news or we have social media on in two social media, in two sort of examples. One, when we're bored, or two, when we're sort of veging out after a tough day at work

or a tough day with the kids, which is work, by the way, too. And we let the media hijack our brain. I would rather people use, they want to listen to the news, they want to read a long format thing, they want to go on social media. I'd rather have you go on when you feel like after a workout, when you feel in your body, when you're feeling good, not when you're vegging out and your mind is very susceptible to the influences and the imagery and the video of everybody else. It's crazy that, you know, we tend to compare ourselves on social media and feel like

we don't have certain things in our life when we already are not feeling great. It's not that you go, you kind of go into, especially I would say social media for those that are heavy users of it. What I find with a lot of my friends, they go into social media already not feeling great. And so they're looking for an opportunity to say, why is things not working out in my life? Oh, it's because I don't have this. Oh, it's because I'm not in a relationship. Oh, it's because I don't have this much wealth.

Oh, it's because my body doesn't look as good. Oh, it's because I haven't figured out my health. When you feel a void, then social media and the news will fill that void for you by giving you the simplest answer. The reason that you are not amazing or that your life isn't working out is because you don't have enough, you're not enough, you don't have a partner, you don't have this thing or that thing. When you have a void and you feel a little off, this is the perfect opportunity to instead

of going on social media, calling a friend, reading a book, doing something that re-centers you, and this is part of the boundaries. So you may say that when you notice this feeling inside of you, instead of reaching for your phone, you're going to read a book.

Here's a simple thing that a lot of my friends have done. They say they don't look at social media within two hours of going to bed. They don't want that influencing their mind and their dreams and their subconscious. So a simple boundary is I'm not going to look at social media before I go to bed. Instead, I'm going to read something uplifting. Another flip an example of that is when you wake up first thing in the morning.

My buddy Light Watkins, who we have an interview with this week, says we call it an instant meditation. People say they don't have time for meditation. And the type of meditation that he teaches is only 20 minutes in the morning. People say they don't have time for meditation. And yet they'll scroll through social media or they'll watch the news. and we'll call that a news meditation or an instant meditation, you'll scroll through for 20 minutes

at the most vulnerable time right early in the morning or often at night, when your mind is vulnerable and very impressionable, you're filling it with the priorities of everybody else. We don't want to do that.

There's a different way that we can be not because being on social media is bad, not because watching the news is bad, simply because it hijacks our priorities. If you don't prioritize your life, someone else will. Number three, as we wrap up here, creating time and space for the things that you love, creating time and space for growth, for learning, for new projects. So a couple quick questions.

Is there something in my life that deserves more attention but isn't getting it? Am I using the excuse of being busy as a reason not to give it love and attention? can I set some boundaries on my schedule and tell the people around me so they know what those boundaries are so I can give that thing the love and attention it deserves. Boundaries are not the end goal. Boundaries are a tool. They're like a hammer. They free up mental space, time, attention so that we can give that to what matters in life.

And the ultimate thing would be our growth, our learning, that new business idea that you've been wanting to start, that new home project that you've wanted to do, that active role that you wanted to take in your child's life or your parents' life, whatever it is. It's not what my priorities are for you, what the media's priorities are for you. It's not what society's priorities are for you. It's what are your priorities for you. if we don't prioritize our lives, someone else will. I hope you've enjoyed this monologue, this big idea episode of the week, all on boundaries.

Step one is awareness, being aware of where we want to bring boundaries to our life. It's not easy, but that's okay. The question isn't, is it easy? The question is, is it worth it? Are you worth it? Are you worth it to potentially disappoint some people around you to potentially reset some expectations to potentially remove some distractions or addictions in your life

like social media or the news? Are you worth it to go down that tough path? Are your priorities worth it? Are you worth it? Is your family worth it? Is whatever you want to do, is it worth it? It's not always going to be easy. In fact, it's not easy.

but that's not the question. Is it worth it? This is Drew Prode here, signing off with another big idea of the week episode. I hope you enjoyed it. If you did, send this interview to someone who you think could benefit from it.

Thanks again. I'll see you next week.