Dhru Purohit Show - #222: 7 Ways to Protect Your Brain from Harmful Electromagnetic Radiation (Especially at Night!)

Episode Date: June 15, 2021

Welcome to The Big Idea of the Week! On today’s episode of The Dhru Purohit Podcast, Dhru shares 7 tips for protecting your brain from harmful electromagnetic radiation.  (1) Don’t plug your cell phone into the wall next to your bed when you sleep. Ideally, put it on the opposite side of the room. (2) Don’t leave anything else plugged in next to your head, bed or night stand. This includes an alarm clock, lamp, lights, or any other device that plugs into a wall. Anything plugged into a wall emits some amount of dirty electricity and for a lot of people that’s where the bulk of their EMF exposure comes from. (3) Avoid using your laptop or cell phone while it’s charging. (4) Avoid sleeping with your head or body near a wall that has an electric panel or electric appliance on the other side. (5) If you have kids remember their brains are smaller, remove any devices that are plugged in their rooms next to their beds. Their skulls aren’t as thick as adults, so they are at greater risk. (6) Turn your Wi-Fi off at night and if you can’t, don’t have your Wi-Fi in your room at night when you sleep. This goes for Wi-Fi routers or extenders.  (7) Consider using an earthing mat for your bed. Also mentioned in this episode: -Dr. Devra Davis - https://ehtrust.org/about/dr-devra-davis/ EMF Studies Overview:  -Powerlines, Magnetic Field and Extremely Low Frequency Fields - https://ehtrust.org/science/research-on-magnetic-fields-extremely-low-frequency-electromagnetic-fields-cancer-and-miscarriage/   -Dr. De-Kun Li, Senior Research Scientist at the Division of Research, Kaiser Permanente Exposure to EMF and Risk of Miscarriage, Asthma, Obesity Dr. De Kun Li, Kaiser Permanente - https://youtu.be/K5_MAvpikjs Referenced Articles: -Banned in Europe, Safe in The US - https://ensia.com/features/banned-in-europe-safe-in-the-u-s/  -The Answer is 17 Years, What is The Question: Understanding Time Lags in Translational Research - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3241518/ -Association Between Maternal Fluoride Exposure During Pregnancy and IQ Scores in Offspring in Canada - https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2748634 Podcasts: -Episode #106 - The Growing Concern with Electromagnetic Radiation and Frequencies with Dr. Carlos Ritter - https://drhyman.com/blog/2020/04/27/bb-ep106/ -Episode #207 - The Dangers of Fluoride on the Brain and IQ with Dr. Mark Burhenne - https://drhyman.com/blog/2021/04/15/dp-ep207/ For more on Dhru Purohit, be sure to follow him on Instagram @dhrupurohit, on Facebook @dhruxpurohit, on Twitter @dhrupurohit, and on YouTube @dhrupurohit. You can also text Dhru at [phone].  Sign up for Dhru’s Try This Newsletter - https://dhrupurohit.com/newsletter. Interested in joining Dhru’s Facebook Community? Submit your request to join here https://www.facebook.com/groups/2819627591487473/. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, podcast, Drew Prood here, your host. Thanks for joining back in. I got a special episode for you today on the podcast, seven ways to protect your brain from electromagnetic radiation, especially at night. Today's episode is a preview. It's a preview of a new newsletter that I'm launching. Shout out to my co-writer in this newsletter, Taylor.

And this newsletter is called The Try This newsletter. It's a weekly protocol. Every week, I'll send you a protocol, something that you can try firsthand yourself, often free, no-cost or low-cost tips to help you radically improve a particular part of your health. Today we're talking about reducing your exposure from electromagnetic radiation

and why it's so important. But some of the other newsletters are about how to eat a better meal that improves your metabolic health for breakfast. What does a balanced blood sugar meal look like for breakfast? Or what does my step-by-step sleep protocol look like? If you want to sign up for this newsletter, that's going to be free and it's going to be coming out soon within the next few weeks. Just click on the first link in the show notes or go to my personal website,

Drew Perot.com slash newsletter. That's D-H-R-U-P-U-R-O-H-I-D. t dot com, Drewproba.com, and then click on the newsletter tab to sign up. All right, let's jump in seven simple ways to protect your brain from electromagnetic radiation and electromagnetic frequencies, especially at night. Now, before we jump in, let's talk a little big picture. So if you dig a little bit, you dig just a little bit. It's not hard to find the growing and

emerging concern around EMFs. There's a great summary. If you're new to this and or maybe you've heard that electromagnetic frequencies from cell phones and dirty electricity is really nothing to worry about. If you want a review of the science that's out there, the Environmental Health Trust website and Dr. Deverey Lee Davis, one of the founders, I have a link in the show notes. there's a great summary of the data that's out there and the emerging science.

But I'll summarize a lot of it here in today's episode. But let's talk about a big picture. EMFs from cell phones and dirty electricity. Again, we'll break that down a little bit more later on. They've been, in the scientific literature globally, have been linked with leukemia, brain cancers, breast cancer, Irregular heart rhythms and beats, childhood neurodevelopment disorders, low sperm count in men, reproductive and developmental or abnormalities in women.

Blood glucose impacts and so much more. The growing body of research is continuing to evolve as more organizations, nonprofits, and government agencies around the world are starting to. pay attention to this, even very mainstream institutions. There's one here based out of California called Kaiser Permanente. Shout out to Kaiser. It's where my brother-in-law, Dr. Neil Patel, who is a cardiologist and has done his training in functional medicine as well.

He works there. And at Kaiser Permanente, there is a researcher, MD PhD. His name is Dr. DeKung Lee. and he has a great summary that's also linked to in the show notes on the breakdown and some of the big picture science in the space it's only 16 minutes by the way it's a YouTube video it's in the show notes and if you want to watch something that digs into the specific literature case study after case study but experiments that they've actually done research that they've done at the Kaiser's division of research which is where dr. de kung lee works

You can find some fascinating topics, especially in the category of studies that he's done on EMF exposure during pregnancy and how that can impact babies. So naturally, the more you start digging into this area and you go down the rabbit hole and you look into the work that these trained scientists and medical doctors are doing, the scarier it can all seem. But that's not the goal of this podcast. This podcast is not trying to scare you. I'm not trying to scare you.

I'm definitely not trying to scare me. The goal is to leave you feeling equipped that at least there are a few big picture things that you can do today. Tonight, when you go to sleep, to dramatically reduce your EMF exposure and potentially improve your health. Also, by the way, we love technology.

I'm recording this podcast on a laptop. I have my cell phone next to me, not on me, but next to me. And we love technology. So the goal isn't to rid ourselves of technology and go back backwards in our technical evolution. The goal is to protect ourselves in the interim until better technology and laws are passed that start to help society take advantage of the technologies that are out there, Wi-Fi, cell phones, computers, all the beautiful things that we have. Those things are beautiful. They've allowed so much good in this world. But we need to figure out better ways to apply that technology so that we're not harming

ourselves or potentially harming ourselves. Now, I keep on mentioning at night. How do we protect our brain at night? Well, why nighttime? Why while we sleep? Well, we'll get to that shortly. But first, we need to cover some important background info. So let's jump in.

May 31st, 2011. This was a super important date. On this date, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, which is part of the World Health Organization, officially labeled electromagnetic fields as a class to be carcinogen. Now, a lot of people don't know that. But it's true. In fact, if you go to the legal documents inside of most mobile phones,

but especially Apple, I have an Apple device, which I love, by the way. If you go into general and then about and you click on legal, you can see that most phone companies that are out there include in their legal documentation that you have to agree to when you use a phone, that there are known risks with electromagnetic frequencies and electromagnetic radiation. And that they encourage you inside of there not to keep the phone.

phone on your body. This is well known. So class 2b carcinogen. What does that mean? So the conclusion of the agency, international agency on research on cancer found that there is some documented risk and most likely based on the evidence that they reviewed that EMFs are most likely a carcinogen and therefore quote the organization needed to keep a close watch for a link between cell phones and cancer this is the world health organization that is coming out and saying this an intergovernmental uh intercountry committee and this was just in the field of cancer but there's many other parts of health that people are looking at especially neurodevelopmental and what they're doing at Kaiser and effect to both humans and animals who are in the womb or during

pregnancy. So there's many more agencies that are out there and organizations that are studying this. So there is most likely a concern that EMFs are a carcinogen. So they need to watch it and pay close attention to it. Now, there is some evidence. out there, but that evidence for the organization, world health organization, to say conclusively that this is a carcinogen in the same way that we look at tobacco from cigarettes as a known carcinogen or other environmental toxins that are out there, they didn't take as harsh of a stand. Now, why is that? Why was it said to be it's a possible carcinogen? Well, there's a, a couple of important things that we have to remember.

The first thing is that we know that it can take at least 17 years for research evidence to reach clinical practice. That was the results found in a paper published in 2011 by the Journal of Royal Society of Medicine. That's exactly what they found is it can take, on average, 17 years for research evidence to reach clinical practice. And by the way, it can take even longer when you talk about countries and health organizations around the world, like the World Health Organization, coming out with strong recommendations.

And just if there's any area that you want to look at this, just look at the history of tobacco. There was so much conclusive evidence showing that tobacco was a known carcinogen. Even the industry knew it. but because of politics, because of funding, because of just the nature of how ideas get out there, and the industry fighting back and doing their own studies showing that tobacco wasn't as much of a concern, that there could be other concerns that could be there.

It just took time. Consensus takes time. Even when you have consensus in science, you still have to fight against human nature and convince people and fight against propaganda. And there's a lot of propaganda when it comes to science, especially when there's money involved. And there is money involved when it comes to EMF and radiation that we're exposed to through electromagnetic frequencies.

There's another area that is a modern area where we're seeing this, also play out and how the literature and the literature that's present and the early scientists that are there are finding very strong data to support that in this case, the example that I'm going to bring up as an anecdote is sugar. You know, I've had some of the top experts in cancer on this podcast before. We had Dr. Jason Fung, who is a notable author, New York. times bestseller doctor and researcher in the field of fasting, diabetes, but also now got into a whole book in talking about cancer. We've also had Dr. William Lee, who is the founder of the Angiogenesis

Foundation. He has a top TED talk called How to Starve Cancer with Food, and we had him on this podcast talking all about cancer and food. And, you know, I asked Dr. William Lee, I said, you know, Dr. William Lee, I want to ask you when it comes to food and cancer, talk to us about sugar, because WebMD says there's no link that sugar is related to cancer, that sugar encourages cancer growth. But yet I look at all the literature and all the papers that are coming out there and the work that you're doing. And I so clearly feel that sugar,

in especially its process form, which is where most people are getting their, highest concentrations of sugar from, they're not getting it from fruit. We don't need to demonize fruit. You know, we can be mindful around it, but we don't need to be demonizing it. So much of that evidence around sugar and processed sugar and Coke and all these things like that and processed foods is showing that there is a connection between processed foods and cancer. And Dr. William Lee, who, by the way, has developed over a dozen drugs for cancer, says that the emergent research, the emergent research, which is all the research that's coming out right now,

says yes, there is a link between sugar and cancer. Every cell in our body feeds on glucose. But cancer cells in particular, Dr. William Lee shared, rely on glucose to fuel their metabolism. So cutting sugar out is one approach. that is part of a holistic cancer treatment and other experts that we've had on this podcast, like Dr. Ralph Moss, who's a PhD researcher in the field of cancer, has an incredible website, moss reports.com.

When my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer, he was one of the people that I had as part of her team. And he has a report 400 pages often on every major cancer that's out there. Every major cancer that's out there. and he sells these reports on his website. And he was previously at Sloan Kettering many, many, many years ago. We talked about in the podcast and how he was fired for questioning, being at the head of the research desk over there, for questioning how certain cancer drugs weren't as helpful as they were claiming to be.

Now, just a little caveat in a note, Dr. Moss is not against drugs. Dr. Moss is not against drugs. can be extremely beneficial. But in this case, he was highlighting how this drug wasn't as beneficial and how there was some other data that he was showing that there were some natural interventions that showed much better outcomes that are there. Again, this isn't drugs versus food, like both are useful and can be used in an interesting way.

But Ralph Moss, another researcher that I've mentioned was on the podcast before, in addition to Dr. William Lee, talking about how reducing sugar intake, is one way to prevent us our risk of cancer in the future. Or if we have cancer, it's one way to slow down the growth if we can cut sugar down. But again, if you go to WebMD, or if you talk to most mainstream oncologists that are out there today, they would say no.

It's not proven yet. Well, emergent research is a little bit art and science. It's science in the way that it's done. It's science, but it's us piecing together, and it's the medical community and the people that are advocates in the space, like Dr. Lee, piecing together

the data that could be in the eyes of other researchers in the space slightly inefficient because we don't have a big, double-blind placebo-controlled trial on sugar and cancer, Well, there's a lot of problems in getting there. Who's going to fund it?

How are we going to come up with the money? How do you convince people? Sugar is so pervasive. The study would be very complex to do. It doesn't mean that somebody won't do it in the future. It's just difficult. So often when you hear somebody who's very mainstream saying there's no evidence, there's no evidence that this is linked with this.

And I'm not saying that sugar causes cancer. I'm saying that sugar can fuel is one of the fuels. also fat and protein can also be one of the fuels for cancer too and that's what dr william lee's work is with angiogenesis is that how do we cut off these blood vessels that are connected to these tumors which will then slow down the growth of cancer if we can cut off their source of food and slow down angiogenesis when it comes to cancer maybe we can slow cancer down and that's what he's proven through his work, and he talks about it extensively in his book,

Eat to Beat Disease. Check out his talk if you haven't. Anyways, I digress a little bit, but the reason that I'm bringing this up is that the research is out there. It's out there showing a connection between sugar and cancer as Dr. Fung and Dr. Lee have talked about.

We don't have the biggest studies that are out there that would remove complete doubt from other people, but there's enough that you can start to piece together the mechanisms and fill in the gaps. We don't have that double-blind placebo-controlled trial on cancer, these big population-level studies, cancer and sugar, but we can show the mechanisms that glucose fuels our cells. Cancer cells have nine times more receptors for glucose. Angiogenesis is a major pathway of how these cells siphon off resources and then become

tumorous in the incorrect environment and so on and so on. So this is all to say that just because something is not mainstream and accepted, especially when it comes to EMF, doesn't mean that there isn't cause for concern. This is why in our own life, we need to be applying and setting up our rule when it comes to the precautionary principle. When it comes to electromagnetic radiation, we could greatly benefit by applying the precautionary principle.

Now, what is the precautionary principle? It's an approach to dealing with uncertainty and potential harm, which is mostly known for being practiced in Europe, in the European Union. And the precautionary principle basically says when there is serious cause for concern. When it comes to some agent,

be that a chemical or drug or ingredient, for example, in a food, we err on the side of caution and maybe avoid it or highly discourage it to the population. Because there's enough emergent research, even though the research isn't conclusive. And by the way, the research on EMF is not conclusive.

It's hard. to do. There's a lot of different studies that are out there. The methodologies are all different in terms of how to discover EMFs and there's a ton of industry research that's out there. So this is a very controversial area, very controversial area. But within the controversy, I'm trying to highlight the basics. And the basics first are the World Health Organization is saying it's a possible probable carcinogen class to be. We need to be. We need to to pay attention. The research is concerning. We need more research, but also we should pay attention. Pay attention means take precautionary action. They didn't go as far to recommend that. It's a very

political thing. The World Health Organization and all the different countries and industries that are involved in swaying the outcomes. But to extrapolate, my guess is the author of that of that inter-country statement that came out would be we should be cautious. In our own life, we can apply the precautionary principle to protect ourselves. You know, one more example before we talk about how to do this when it comes to EMF. We did an interview with Dr. Mark Bahena, who's a dentist based in the Bay Area, and we covered the research around fluoride and how fluoride is extremely controversial when it comes to its propoded, it's presumed benefits.

It's presumed benefits when it comes to protecting our teeth. And there's emerging data in the space of fluoride, just like EMFs, just like sugar and cancer, that there is cause for concern. And primarily we went through all the data and some big studies that were out there that were looking at IQ points, IQ points in babies. And one of the studies out of Canada,

and I believe it was a province in Ontario, I mean, it was in the province of Ontario. They picked a few different towns. One town that had fluorinated its population, another town that didn't have floridated wild, water fluoridated water being provided to its citizens and one of the things that they found inside of there which it was controversial study in jama it was super controversial led to a lot of letters to the editor that came in one thing that they found is that in the population set of

babies young boys and young girls who by the way didn't have even teeth yet or their teeth were just starting to come in so they didn't need fluoride in the first place they found a lower IQ score for babies in the towns that had fluoridated water versus the towns that didn't. And I'll link to the episode in the study so that you can go check it out for yourself. But basically the conclusion of that, all these people went up in arms. But the researcher was saying that one thing to take away, even if you think that fluoride is helpful for people's teeth is that babies don't have teeth. So let's err on the side of caution.

If we don't know, let's avoid giving babies fluoridated water. If you're going to use formula to make breast, to make, if you're going to use water to make formula and feed it to a baby, maybe filter the water. Take the fluoride out because they don't even need it in the first place. That's an example of how the precautionary principle is at play. instead of waiting for all the perfect evidence to definitively come in when there is enough evidence to show cause for concern, we take action early.

Here's a great historical example from an article by Elizabeth Grossman, published at the University of Minnesota's Institute of the Environment. Link in the show notes so you can check it out. Quote, the use of lead-based interior paints was abandoned much of Europe, including France, Belgium, and Austria in 1909. And the rest of Europe, after France, Belgium, and Australia followed suit before the 1940s. It took the U.S. until 1978, many decades later, to make this move, even though health experts had for decades, recognized the potentially acute, even though.

even deadly and irreversible hazards of lead exposure. Just because there's emergent research, even sometimes strong research in an area doesn't mean the government or organizations or the FDA or even the World Health Organization is going to take action. We need to protect ourselves. Another example about the precautionary principle, most famously in Europe,

in the case of certain flavors and food, like red dye number 40 and yellow dye number five, companies were discouraged from using them because of the growing evidence around their links to ADHD, tumor growth, and even poor immune function. Want to buy a product in Europe that has red dye 40? Well, it's banned for infants, first of all. And for everyone else, it comes with a warning.

That's the precautionary principle. in action. There's enough evidence that we pay attention to that we're looking at to cause concern. Now, I'm not going to go into the global politics or the national politics of the precautionary principle at a governmental and agency level, right? I'm talking about examples of where they got it right, but regulation, when it's done right, can be great, but there's also a component that it goes, when it goes too far, can cause, you know, challenges. And so I'm not, that's not a debate for that. You know, when regulation goes too far,

it can stifle innovation and access and other stuff. We need to be smart about it. But here's the point and the takeaway for you, on an individual and family level for you, for me, for your family, for my family, who we're in charge of, who we want to protect. We can radically improve our lives and especially our health if we do our own research and create our own precautionary principles in our own life. Now, before we get to that and how to do that in your life with these seven practical takeaways on EMF and protecting your brain, let's do a basic overview of the electromagnetic fields and electromagnetic radiation.

Now, as always, I like to say, you know, it's funny sometimes because I'm Indian and because my business partner is a doctor, just a lot of people end up calling me Dr. Perraud or Dr. Drew. I mean, that'd be great to have the nickname Dr. Drew and follow in the legacy of the first Dr. Drew, but I'm not a doctor. I'm not an expert in this area of electromagnetic radiation of electromagnetic fields, nor am I an expert in any area. related to health. I am not the authority. I'm simply the hype man for health.

I'm trying to collect all this. Take the best and most interesting experts in and around the world. Bring them on the podcast. Take themes and books and articles and studies that they send me. Put them and remix them together on topics that I'm passionate about. and highlight the growing evidence in a particular field, just like I'm doing with EMFs right now, in a smart way, in a way that is not to scare you,

in a way that can be looked at, followed up, vetted. I'm not publishing research, but I'm putting out all the links to all the studies and references that we have for this episode, especially if you sign up for the Try This newsletter, you'll find all the references in our EMF article, which I believe is over 30, references that are there. And you can dig into it. And I'm also admitting that this space is

controversial. But there's still stuff that we can do and there's still action that we can take and it's still important to jump into. Now, we have had some experts on EMF on the podcast, Dr. Carlos Ritter. You can find his interview in the show notes. He was a medical doctor from Mexico, who then came to America and specializes through his company, EMF nights, in protecting families and homes and doing education on the topic of EMF, and especially dirty electricity. He's inspired greatly, you know, today's episode and the Trivis newsletter. We also put out a call to Dr. Deverey Lee Davis to be on the podcast. So I'm hoping that we have her on soon.

So I'm not the expert, but here's the thing. You don't need to be the expert in this to start piecing bits of the puzzle together and then to look at it from afar and say, does it make sense to you? Is this a strong enough argument? Is there enough emerging data that this is an area that you want to pay attention to? So let's talk about EMFs. And there's a great summary on cancer.gov. one of the official governmental websites in the U.S. on all things, cancer.

And I'm going to read out their breakdown, which is really great. We differ on the conclusions, and they differ from a lot of the conclusions that the studies have found, again, in the emerging research, it's out there, but they have a great summary on EMF. So first and foremost, before we go into electromagnetic radiation and fields, we have to remember that there are both natural and human-made sources of mass. non-ionizing EMFs. The Earth's magnetic field, which we often refer to as a good or a positive source of EMFs, is one example of naturally occurring EMFs.

So we just want to be mindful, just like sugar in fruit is not bad. And even sugar is not bad. Too much sugar in our diets, especially in process forms, can wreak havoc on our metabolic health by having influence on insulin through all the different episodes that we've talked about before. So today what we're specifically chatting about is the unnatural quote unquote, not the Earth EMF. There's also radiation that we're exposed to as we go higher and higher into the atmosphere, and especially in space from the sun.

We're not so much talking about that. We're talking about the unnatural forms. So electric, reading again from the Cancer.gov article, electric and magnetic fields are invisible areas of energy, also called radiation, that are produced by electricity, which is the movement of electrons or currents through a wire. An electric field is produced by voltage, which is the pressure used to push the electrons through the wire, much like water being pushed through a pipe. As the voltage increases, the electric fields increase in strength.

Electric fields are measured in volts per meter, V over M. A magnetic field results from the flow of current through the wires or electrical devices and increases in the strength as the current increases. The strength of a magnetic field decreases rapidly with increasing distance from its source. Magnetic fields are measured in micro-Teslas. electric fields are produced whether or not a device is turned on, whereas magnetic fields are produced only when a current is flowing, which usually requires a device to be powered on.

Power lines produce magnetic fields continuously because current is always flowing through them. Electric fields are easily shielded or weakened by walls or other objects, whereas magnetic fields can pass through buildings, living things, and most other materials. There's a little bit of disagreement on the electric fields are easily shielded and weakened by walls and other objects. We'll come back to that a little bit later on. Electric and magnetic fields together are referred to as electro-magnetic fields or EMFs. There's two primary categories, and this is pretty important. There's high-frequency EMFs, which includes x-rays,

and gamma rays, these EMFs are in the ionizing radiation part of the electromagnetic spectrum and can damage DNA or cellular or cells directly. Now, this is Drew speaking here, just a little caveat. So we all know that x-rays, right, you go and get an x-ray done at your dentist or at the doctor's office and they try to put lead on you in other parts of the body. Or if you ever watch Chernobyl, the mini-episode series on HBO, you know that the damage of x-rays is widely known and understood. So that's the high-frequency EMFs that are out there.

That includes x-rays and gamma rays, which are exposed to as we go higher and higher. Well, you can be exposed through a lot of different forms. Now, the part of today's podcast that we're going to be focusing on is the low-to-mid-frequency EMFs, particularly the low-frequency EMFs. Going back to the article from cancer.gov, low-frequency EMFs. They include static fields and magnetic fields from electric power lines, appliances, radio waves, microwaves, infrared radiation, and visible light.

And back to me now, this also includes cell phones. Now, cell phones are a two-way microwave radio that sends and receives a type of non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation called radio frequency radiation. or you'll often see it referred to as RFR. And while cell phones get a lot of attention, when it comes to low frequency EMFs, we always talk about cell phones when it comes to EMFs and radiation and other stuff.

So, yes, cell phones have EMFs and how damaging those EMFs are to the body and DNA in ourselves is controversial, but more and more of it's emerging. But a lot of the other low-frequency EMS that we're exposed to comes from electrical wiring and electrical appliances. This includes things like shavers and hair dryers and electric blankets that a lot of people use.

Basically anything that's plugged in anywhere, including our electric cars. So all those also admit low, frequency EMFs. Now, why the concern? We know high frequency EMFs cause damage when we have exposure. For a long time, we didn't, by the way. There was science that was out there, but we didn't understand that radioactive isotopes

and molecules could cause as much damage to cells as they do. So radioactive material was often included in things like paint for different industrial type paint because of its sturdiness and color and other sorts of functions. So even though there was some data that was out there, it was still allowed to be used because, again, it takes a while for the data to convince everyone, all the stakeholders that are needed to take action. So that we're clear of. But why the concern with low frequency EMFs? And the simple answer, primarily is DNA damage. Exposure to extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields, even at levels lower than are tested when we come to safety measures.

And a lot of these safety standards that are there, even in the United States, have been from laws that were passed years ago. decades ago, the technology completely outdates those laws. So exposure to extremely low frequency electromagnetic fields, even at lower levels that are stated, and the safety recommendations can break DNA. Now, our body, in fact, every cell has the ability to repair DNA through very advanced mechanisms, including re-synthesis.

This is known, and everybody learns about this in, in advanced biology and definitely if you're a health care practitioner you learn about the power of our cells to repair DNA. But when that damage is constant or that damage is growing or coming from multiple sources over prolonged period of time, our cells cannot keep up with the repair process and they start to make mistakes. Those mistakes can cause mutations. Enough mutations and the thought and the thinking is that that can promote the growth of cancer, which is why there's been so many studies linked to and why it was the World Health Organization's organization on cancer,

cancer research, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, which came out with that strong wording that electromagnetic fields are class two, be carcinogen, and that was in 2011. When DNA breaks, our cells can usually repair. And by the way, besides EMFs, plenty of things are constantly breaking our DNA on a regular basis. Not just environmental toxins, there's cells that reach their own particular life and have enough damage DNA because they've been ignored or a mechanism hasn't happened. properly or we are nutrition, nutrient deficient in a particular thing. So there's a whole bunch of reasons besides EMFs why cells would have DNA damage. So DNA damage is occurring all the time.

But when the DNA damage is growing and when it's coming from multiple different forms, whatever that environmental toxin is, and in this case we're talking about EMFs, our cells cannot keep up. They do as best as they can. But it's like a wrecking ball that's constantly hitting a building and you have, you know, a hundred workers that are there to repair it. But if you have a big skyscraper and there's one wrecking ball, but then one wrecking ball turns into 10, tens into 20, and the building constantly gets hit over and over and over.

No matter how many workers you have, if there's more wrecking balls that are doing damage, the workers are not going to be able to efficiently repair the building. And that's what's going on inside of our bodies. The science goes a lot deeper. And in fact, there's a lot of the great science for anybody that wants to go even further in the mechanisms. It's covered in detail on a lot of studies that we have linked up.

And the Environmental Health Trust has fantastic page of literature on EMFs that will also link to as well. So the thing is that even if someone doesn't get cancer, it's not just about cell phones being linked to or potentially increasing the risk of cancer. Even if somebody doesn't get cancer, there's still cellular damage that happens when DNA is broken

and it can happen at levels that over the long haul can cause serious problems in our health. The more cells that are damaged, the harder it is individually for our organ systems to do their job and for repair to take place. Now, this has been well-established in animal models.

And there are even some studies that link that we link to in the show notes where you can see this well documented, especially a lot of the tumor studies and cancer studies on models of exposing rats and mice to cell phones. Where it's harder and where a lot of the controversy comes in is for humans. It's very controversial when we try to extrapolate this animal data that's out there and pretty well established when it comes to EMFs and continuing to grow,

it becomes challenging and controversial when it's applied to humans. Now, let's look into that. Before we get into all of our tips on what we can do to protect ourselves under the precautionary principle, let's look at why this is challenging to study in humans.

Well, number one, it's hard to study EMF damage in humans because we don't have scientific equipment that can study DNA and cellular damage easily and instantaneously. If we could look at your body right now and inexpensively or not super costly, instantaneously look at the damage that's happening

from different EMF exposure on a cellular level, we would see it. Well, we'd probably see, and a lot of researchers have speculated because one day we will have this science, we would see a building that was getting hit with a bunch of really tiny bullets, a big skyscraper. It was being penetrated by a bunch of BB gun pellet size things, even smaller than that, I would say, maybe even smaller than a BB gun. But that was happening a little bit here and there, but constantly throughout the day. There was a hole here.

There was a hole on the, imagine a hundred-story skyscraper. And on floor 80, one of the glasses, the windows breaks because a BB gun pellet went through and went right through the building. And then floor 50. And then a few minutes later, floor 30. And even though they're all small, you could see the damage. So once we have scientific equipment that can easily and instantaneously start to notice this, we can more easily see the damage that's being built up over a period of time.

We just don't have that right now. The second thing is it's expensive to do big trials, and the question is always going to be, who's going to pay for this study? Same thing goes with nutrition. It's tough. You often have to have a groundswell of smaller studies and a movement that convinces bigger organizations,

often universities and nonprofits to put their energy behind it and start to do these big, big trials. And not to mention that cell phone and tech companies, and any company in technology that has a stake in showing that EMFs are safe because they don't want to face litigation, they flood the market with their own studies showing no to minimal harm, similar to how the tobacco companies did. You don't have to disprove another study.

You just have to put a bunch of studies out there that show that there isn't as much harm as somebody else. and then you create doubt. That's what happened in tobacco. And this is happening right now in the world of EMF. Number three, the third reason why it's hard to study this in humans is that it's hard to track the natural amount of EMF exposure that comes from multiple sources and is applied to us and impacting our body over years in our life.

We're getting exposure through home devices. Wi-Fi. And yes, cell phone radiation, which even when we're not on a call, by the way, the cell phone is often very close to our body or in our pockets. One study showed that men out of the Cleveland Clinic, one study showed that men who had cell phones and kept it in their pocket

had a greater risk for low sperm count than men who didn't. So this is all to say that we're really just going through a big, giant experiment when it comes to electromagnetic radiation. And I would argue that you don't need to know at this moment, while we do need to know ultimately and praise be to all the researchers that are out there that are looking into this, hats off to them.

But right now, because it's such a controversial space, the real question is, do you, with the emerging data that's out there, do you want to be a part of this experiment? Now, the challenge is that we're all part of this experiment. we can do our best to reduce exposure to EMFs in our life, but we cannot really, if you're going to live in the modern life and function and build businesses and do cool stuff

and post content online and listen to podcasts and other things like that, you're going to be exposed. That's just the nature of it. So the name of the game is we do our best to reduce exposure without putting a tinfoil hat on and without getting into a fear mindset. because also fear is another form of stress. When our body is constantly in fight or flight

because we're so afraid, that's another form of stress. We don't want that. We want to be informed. We want to take action in our lives. We don't need a tinfoil hat. So let's jump into the seven ways that we can reduce our exposure

and protect our brain, especially at night, using the precautionary principle in our own life. We are probably in at least the next decade not going to get universal, worldwide, level agreement that EMFs are harmful to the degree that measures are going to be taken for us at a population level that would reduce our exposures. I hope it happens, but I'm not very confident that's going to happen in the next 10 years with especially 5G, which is a game changer.

I mean, 5G will revolutionize technology. 5G will do a lot of really incredible things for the economy. 5G will do a lot of incredible things for business. And there's a lot of concern around 5G, a lot of concern in this category of EMF. And I'm not well-versed in the science to go into breaking down the research on it, but we do have a link on 5G and some resources that are there by the Environmental Health Trust and the...

the work by their founder who have mentioned a few times that we'll link in the show notes. So I don't see anything happening in the next 10 years. So we got to take action and we got to do our best to limit it. So let's jump in seven ways. Seven ways is what you've been waiting for. Let's jump in seven practical ways. I think they're practical. There's a lot more you can do.

But these are seven things we've put together that are no brainers that we've been. that we want to start implementing day, especially at night. At night, we'll get back to that. So the first thing to understand, before we jump into those seven ways, is this isn't just about cell phone radiation. The big takeaway from today's episode

is that this is about low-frequency EMFs, which includes, as we learned from Dr. Carlos Ritter, when he was on our show, includes anything that's plugged in to an outlet. where this becomes most pressing is at night while we sleep at night our brain and our body goes into deep DNA and cellular repair for a long time scientists didn't even understand what is the real mechanism behind sleep why do we sleep well sleep is for repair and our body has its own detoxification system and our brain actually has its own detoxification system which we've done episodes on the

lymphatic system. When our body and brain is in its repair process, we want to do everything we can to reduce exposure to potential. So excited. I'm getting tongue tied. To potential insults, so to speak, an insult, a stressor, any kind of stressor. In this case, we're talking about EMF. The more we do to reduce EMF exposure at night when we sleep, the better fighting chance

we have to give our body during the day. because the truth is there's only so much we can do during the day to reduce exposure. Every single one of us has cell phone towers all around us. Wi-Fi. Neighbor's Wi-Fi. Even if you don't have Wi-Fi and you live in an apartment or you live in a house, chances are with how powerful Wi-Fi is these days, you're getting your neighbor's Wi-Fi exposure too.

And most of us are using things that are plugged in all day long, like our laptops and other things like that. So start with protecting yourself at. night and here's how. Tip number one. Most of us know don't keep your cell phone next to you when you sleep. I literally used to have a friend, smart friend. I'm not going to throw him under the bus by putting out his name. Smart guy. Health conscious, everything. He would fall asleep with his cell phone underneath his pillow because he was a heavy sleeper and his alarm would go off and he didn't want to go across the room to grab it.

I hope we all know now that even Apple themselves would say that's a no-no. Do not keep your cell phone right next to your brain, especially at night. Think about that. That's eight hours that your phone is next to your brain. So most of us know do not keep your cell phone next to you while you're sleeping. But also, here's the next level of that, right? And this is going to be tough for some people. and this is going to be a game changer,

but this is what the literature and the science is showing, do not have your cell phone plugged into the wall next to your bed. Because even if your cell phone's on airplane mode and it's connected to the Wi-Fi, which will get to Wi-Fi in a second, it's still plugged into an outlet.

Anything plugged into an outlet is giving off EMFs unless you've had somebody come to your house who understands EMFs and has retrofitted it appropriately. Or you're using a device to dampen the EMF. There are some devices. I haven't looked into them as much, and I can't vouch for how strong they are.

But there's one that's called Green Wave. It's a dirty electricity filter. I've got to look into it more, and I've got to try it on my own. So unless you've had somebody come in and clean up your dirty electricity, unless you're using something that is known to suppress dirty electricity, anything you have plugged in, next to your bed is giving off dirty electricity,

electromagnetic radiation all throughout the night. So that includes your cell phone. But also tip number two, don't leave anything else plugged into your bed or nightstand next to your head, especially at night. This includes alarm clocks, lamps, lights, or any other device that plugs into a wall.

I mean, most of us probably have a night. nightstand, and this is a tough one. It's actually easy to do, but it's tough because you've got to reorganize your room a little bit. Anything plugged into a wall amid some amount of dirty electricity. And for a lot of people, this is what we learned in our interview with Dr. Carlos Ritter. That's where a huge chunk, in some cases, the bulk of their EMF exposure comes from. A lot of people are getting more EMF exposure by interacting with something that's plugged in, whether at night or during the day, then even from cell phones.

So we're all so cautious about cell phones, or at least most people that are listening to this podcast, we know we're trying to use cell phones appropriately, but we're not trying to, you know, you already see more people using the cell phone on speaker. So it's awkward. You don't want people listening to your call, but especially if you're alone or if you feel comfortable,

you put your cell phone on speaker. We know that. We use a wired. headset. That's one way that we make sure we're not putting the cell phone right next to our brain. So we're cautious about

cell phone radiation. A lot of us are. We try to be. We use things like safe sleeve. I use a safe sleeve. Honestly, the truth is I don't know how much protection I get from that sleeve because if it was really protecting me

at a full level, it would have suppressed all cellular activity coming into the cell phone, but it doesn't. I think safe sleeves are just great because they are preventing the directional EMF that is towards your ear, especially for people who put the cell phone next to their ear. If you don't know what Safe Sleeve is, you can Google it.

I use one because I haven't found anything better. If you find something that's better, email me. You find my contact on the website. But I use Safe Sleeve because I haven't found anything better. And it seems to have some benefit versus using nothing. But I still, even still, I don't put the cell phone up to my ear. I always talk on speakerphone or through a wired headset. But in addition to that, as cautious as we are about,

cell phones, even when you're exposed to things that are plugged into the wall and you're right next to it, you're getting EMF exposure. So ideally at night, when our body is in deep DNA repair, let's not keep anything plugged in right nearby our head or nightstand, including a lamp, including an alarm clock. Put it on the other side of the room. Move it, you know, six feet away from the bed. Just don't have it right next to your head. And ideally, put your phone on the opposite side of the room.

Yeah, we're all worried about that call in the middle of night from a parent or a child or whatever it is. And I understand that. It's tough to have your cell phone off completely. There's no good answer right now. I'm sure you could wire your cell phone. There are devices where you can wire it into the router instead of using Wi-Fi or cell phone or other stuff. That seems like a hassle. I know that was one of Dr. Carlos Ritter's recommendations that are there.

And some people might get to that, especially if there are people who are EMF sensitive, which that is a thing. So at least let's keep it on the other side of the room, potentially even outside of the room if you can and you can still hear it and your doors open so you can wake up when your alarm goes off or you get an urgent call, so to speak. Now tip number three, if anything that's plugged in that has voltage is creating electromagnetic radiation.

That means that we also want to be wary about avoiding using our cell phone while it's charging. A lot of people plug in their cell phone. They've had a busy day. Their cell phone is low battery. They plug in their cell phone at night right next to their bed

and they're using the cell phone while it's charging. Now, this one is tough. This one is really tough. And it's honestly a little bit of a bitch. It really is. It's hard to organize your life and not use devices that are actively plugged in. It's so tough. But research has shown that multiple studies that your EMF exposure from devices, especially

cell phone and laptops, but even things like electric blankets and stuff, can be 10 times what it is. I guess in the case of an electric blanket, it doesn't really hold a charge. But like your laptop and your cell phone, they have a battery. your exposure to EMF and electromagnetic radiation can be up to 10 times more when you're using the device while it's charging. So ideally you let your devices charge away from your body. Once they're done charging enough for you to use them, then you use them.

Same goes with your laptop and same goes with your phone. It's tough. It's really tough. But I'm trying to give you low cost, simple tools as ways to reduce your EMF exposure. So even for a lot of my team, I've been recommending them. You know, we have 60 employees in my company, me and Dr. Hyman, between all the different businesses we have. We've been recommending a lot of individuals that ideally, especially if you use a laptop,

which most of us use, and hopefully you're not keeping it on your lap, keep it on a desk, use the laptop, let it charge overnight, ideally away from you in your bed and your head, and then use it in the morning. And depending on how long it holds a charge, if you have to charge again, Try to take a break. Let it charge. Don't work with your laptop plugged in all day long, constantly exposing your body to an electrical charge of something that's plugged in.

Same thing goes with your phone. Let it charge. Unplug it. Then you can use your phone. That's going to reduce significantly your EMF exposure from dirty electricity. One thing is also if you use a monitor or if you use a laptop that is plugged in, you know, I've talked to a lot of different experts about this. ideally it would be better to use Bluetooth,

even though this isn't great, or a wired keyboard and mouse, so that you're not touching your laptop directly while it's plugged in. You can use Bluetooth or a wired keyboard and mouse. There is concerns around Bluetooth, but hey, listen, we all have to make sacrifices if we're going to live in this world

until better technology comes. We're just trying to make sure that we can survive without wearing a fucking tinfoil hat. So these are the best recommendations. that I have. Number four, number four out of seven, avoid sleeping with your head or body near a wall that has an electrical panel

or electric appliance on the other side. This seems a little tougher, but especially you see this in a lot of bedrooms where on the other side of the bedroom, there's a kitchen. And I had Dr. Carlos Ritter come into my house, both the apartment that my fiancé and I live in and also the house that I was in previously,

and he measured the EMF. and in my bedroom downstairs in my house, one of the things he found is that on the other side of my bedroom was the refrigerator. And that refrigerator, which was plugged in, and it's quite a large device, is emitting a whole shit ton of electromagnetic radiation. So if you enter in a bedroom

and on the other side of that, especially where your bed is or your head is, at night when you sleep, because this is really about protecting your brain at night, try to move the bed around a little bit or just, you know, further away from the wall. I'm not as versed into science enough to tell you how far away you need to be from the wall,

but I'll dig into it and I'll ask around. But you don't want to be right next to the wall. And it probably largely depends on the device, how strong it is and the electrical outlet. So I'm sure it differs. But we'll do our best. Number five, if you have kids, remember, their brains are small.

remove any devices that are plugged into their rooms next to their beds if you have a cell phone plugged in on your nightstand and you're an adult and you have your cell phone plugged in on your nightstand and you're a kid or an iPad you're both getting exposure to dirty electricity but adults we have thicker skulls our bodies are more developed they can handle more exposure exposure. Kids, their brains are still going. Their skulls are still small. They're at greater risk is what the evidence shows that's out there. So protect your kids. This includes Wi-Fi, by the way. If you can, and this one's tough too, turn off your Wi-Fi at night. And if you can't, and I don't

always do that, just being real, it's tough because I keep my phone in airplane mode. And then if I end up charging my phone in my room, away from my bed, and I keep in an airplane mode, and I turn off the Wi-Fi, I can't get any calls. And I'm still going to admit that I am scared to get that call in the middle of night and not be there to pick it up. I've definitely got a couple in my life,

maybe one a year, one every two years, but it happens, and that's enough of a fear that I'm just being realistic. I'm not going to turn my phone off completely. So if you don't feel comfortable turning off, your Wi-Fi at night. The other thing you can do is don't have your Wi-Fi in your room at night. If you have a Wi-Fi router, try to put it away further than your bedroom. Or if you have an extender, there's all these different devices that have extenders that are out there. Make sure you

don't have an Wi-Fi extender in your room or that it's turned off. It can just be strong enough that your phone gets reception if a call comes in. And most people, if they use Apple and you have Wi-Fi-enabled calls, you can allow Wi-Fi in. I guess Dr. Carlos Ritter would say that you can always wire your phone. There's Ethernet cables that then plug into your phone through the adapters that are there, and they can hardwire in. That's an option. I haven't done that. Maybe I'll do that. I'm moving soon. Maybe I'll do that at my new place and see if it's actually practical and report back to you. But going back to kids, avoid placing Wi-Fi routers in your child's room or at least turn it off at night their brains are smaller we got to protect their

brains this last one number seven this one's a splurge but there's so much data on it now we know that one of the things that can counteract EMFs is earthing earthing is the process of putting your bare feet on the ground it's called grounding grounding or earthing and it's the act of being connected to the earth's surface and absorbing its electrical charge from the ground and into the body. The earth's surface holds an infinite supply of electrons and carries a net negative charge. This electromagnetic force played an evolutionary role

in creating order in our bodies by stabilizing our own internal, bio-electric environment. Now, humans went from sleeping outdoors and walking outside on their bare feet for most of history to living indoors, sleeping in beds and wearing rubber-souled shoes in very short period of time. This transition to modern day living has caused us to become disconnected from the Earth

in its natural electromagnetic field. An under-explored area of scientific research shows that grounding has a significant impact on human health. Earth's electrons work similarly to antioxidants in the body by quite a very important. Pository charged free radicals and lowering inflammation. Absorbing Earth's electrons helps improve blood flow by increasing red blood cells surface charge, which reduces aggregation, viscosity, and clumping.

Earthing or grounding, as it's often known, has demonstrated significant benefits to a whole host of things, including cardiovascular health, chronic fatigue, immune function, etc., etc. Now, there's two big ways to do this. One is a little bit of a splurge and one is available to all of us. Take a walk outside barefoot. After being exposed to EMFs at high levels or working all day or even at night or be on an airplane or laptop or whatever, walking outside for barefoot with your feet on the ground, like touching grass or earth or sand for 30 to 40 minutes can help neutralize the effects of EMX, EMF,

exposure. So grounding. If you don't know about it, Google it. It's a free tool available for everyone. Another tool that's there, but this one's a splurge, is there's a company called earthing. I have no affiliation with them. They don't even know that I'm mentioning them on the podcast. But I actually have one of their sleep kits. And by the way, it's not cheap. It's not cheap at all. It's a few hundred bucks. And it's a kit that you can put on your bed. That, then is grounded by plugging it into the outlet, but specifically it has an adapter which only plugs it into the grounding wire. If you ever look at an outlet, it has a three-pronged system.

The first two top prongs and often the third prong at the bottom. The third prong in the bottom is a grounding wire. It links to a copper wire built into your building or your house that basically goes all the way into the ground. It's another form of grounding. And what this company, Earthing has found, earthing.com, E-A-R-T-H-H-H-H-E-H-H-E-H-E-H-E-H-E-H-E-H-E. i ng.com is that you can use the specific type of material that has a wire imagine like it

has a type of bed sheet or a mat looks like a yoga mat almost and it can plug into the wall in that grounding wire and this can be tested using a voltage meter it will displace the electrons and the emf to a certain degree there's a lot of debate around this but there'll be some degree of emf dissemination from your body, going through the wire into the wall, through the copper wire, all the way down into the earth. It's another form of grounding.

They also have maps for working. Like, I'm at a laptop right now. I'm in my fiance's office. Shout out to my fiance, Yasmin. If you haven't seen her podcast before, it's called Behind Her Empire. It's fantastic. Any buddy that's interested,

especially women who want to build a business, she interviews the top, top, top women, self-made women in business. Anyways, I'm commandeered her podcasting studio in her office late at night. And both in her office and my own office, we have a grounding mat under the desk. Right now I'm using a monitor. My laptop is plugged in because I'm recording a podcast and it's an hour long and the battery charge on my laptop isn't so strong and it'd probably end up dying

and I just got to record this anyway for you guys. So I got to do my best. I'll sacrifice a little bit. But I have a mat underneath me, a grounding mat that's plugged into the wall. And call me crazy, call it placebo, but I notice a difference. When I use this mat, again, it's not a plug. They aren't paying me. I have no affiliation with this company.

When I use this mat, when I'm working especially, when I'm sleeping a little bit when I'm working, especially on a laptop or device that's plugged in, I notice a difference. I started getting a few years ago this crazy twitching in my eye. I get my eye that would twitch up a little bit. Now, you Google twitching in the eye and I've talked to a bunch of friends, Dr. Dr. Robin Bersen and Dr. Michael, sorry, Dr. Mark Hyman. And, you know, different things can cause twitching in the eyes. It's all dehydration, B12 deficiency, other stuff.

But I would always notice that my eye would twitch more when I was on the laptop, especially when it was plugged in. And when I use my EMF mat, the grounding mat, I didn't notice it as much. That's not a claim. I'm just sharing you my own experience. In fact, it's probably not true, but just something that I've noticed. So that's a splurge too. I mean, these mats are not expensive.

These mats are not cheap. Man, I got to conclude here. I'm starting to slur. I'm recording this at 10 o'clock at night. It's time to go to bed and get my rest as I encourage you all. These mats are not cheap. So I'm not recommending that everybody go and buy one. You can still do plenty of free and low-cost things to reduce your exposure,

TMFs in your household. Just follow those seven steps that are out there. bonus eight step. Dr. Carlos Ritter has a company called EMF Nights, link in the show notes, that completely retrofits people's houses. I don't know exactly what the price is, but I'm imagining it's quite expensive and it's probably only available to people that are well off or have disposed, you know, large amounts of disposable income.

I don't think it's millions of dollars, but I'm not, I'm guessing it's not super cheap. And they can work with you and retrofit your home and apartment and other stuff. I have not had it done yet, but a good friend of mine, JP, that lives in Austin, had Dr. Ritter come to his house and do that. And he was able to significantly reduce the EMF in the house through rewiring and getting rid of dirty electricity. So that's a bonus.

You know, check him out. He's a great guy and doing some great work that's out there. So in conclusion, there's still a lot in this category that we do not know. There's more research that needs to be done, but the emergent research is out there and you have to be the CEO of your own health and the CEO of your family's health and look at this and dive into this literature that's out there

and decide if you want to take some precaution. I personally think it's worth it, but that's my own bias. You look into it, you come up with your own conclusions. But just remember, there's a lot of scam products that are out there and there's a lot of BS that's out there. even the world of health and wellness, it's filled with BS,

just as much as we want to criticize corporations and other stuff for bearing research in the tobacco industry. The wellness industry is littered with people that are just trying to get rich quick stuff. So they have different little stickies that you put on your phone, that supposedly block EMFs, other stuff.

A lot of that stuff, from me talking to experts, does not work. The stuff that does work, or even works a little bit, usually has some data behind it. It's not just based on some hippie version or interpretation of quantum physics. So beware, there's a lot of scam products.

And do not go crazy. Just do your best, like with everything. This isn't about going crazy and freaking out about EMFs. We're not going to freak out. We're not going to freak out about anything. That's my motto. I'm going to intelligently look at stuff, take calculated action to protect myself.

a level that makes sense, rinse and repeat. Focus on, number three, focus on protecting your brain at night. That is crucial. There's not a lot we can do during the day besides maybe not using a laptop that's not plugged in. But there's not much we can do during the day. We're all going to be exposed to a lot of different EMFs and some of them may not be that bad. And that's it. I hope you have found this podcast useful.

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