Dhru Purohit Show - Why Comparison Kills Momentum and How to Stop Living for Others and Start Living for Your Future Self

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

This episode is brought to you by Branch Basics and iRestore. We all have goals we want to achieve in life, but too often we abandon them the moment we slip into comparison. Today’s guest shows us how to break out of that trap and start making real progress toward the life we’ve always envisioned. Today on The Dhru Purohit Show, we’re revisiting one of our most talked-about moments with Dr. Hal Hershfield. Dr. Hal breaks down the dangers of falling into the comparison trap and how it can lead to self-sabotage and defeat. Together, Dhru and Dr. Hal explore why understanding the real journey of obstacles and challenges is essential for growth. Dr. Hal also shares practical strategies for clarifying your intentions and goals, and how to apply those insights to your health and wellness journey. Hal Hershfield is a professor of marketing, behavioral decision-making, and psychology at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management. His research sits at the intersection of psychology and economics, focusing on how to improve long-term decision-making. He’s published in leading academic journals and has written op-eds for outlets such as The New York Times, Harvard Business Review, and The Wall Street Journal. Hal holds a PhD in psychology from Stanford, has earned multiple teaching awards, and was named one of Poets & Quants’ “40 Most Outstanding B-School Profs Under 40.” His book, Your Future Self: How to Make Tomorrow Better Today, is out now. In this episode, Dhru and Dr. Hal dive into: The hidden dangers of comparison and how it quietly derails your life (1:55) Why celebrating group wins unlocks what you think is impossible (5:30) Tailwinds, headwinds, and the surprising truth about real progress (10:45) How to shift from “good intentions” to unshakeable commitment (15:07) A simple method for getting radically clear on your goals (20:17) The powerful letter-to-your-future-self exercise that exposes your real obstacles (24:06) Final insights that tie everything together (31:13) Also mentioned: Full episode with Hal Hershfield Try This: Write a Letter to Your Future Self This episode is brought to you by Branch Basics and iRestore. Right now, Branch Basics is offering 15% off the Premium Starter Kit; just go to branchbasics.com and use the coupon code DHRU. Transform your space, transform your health, start with Branch Basics today. Hair loss is frustrating. Give yourself the gift of hair confidence. For a limited time, my listeners get an exclusive discount on the iRestore Elite using the link irestore.com with code DHRU.  Sign up for Dhru’s Try This Newsletter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hi, everyone. Drew Prode here. When you look around, do you ever feel like everyone else has life figured out, except for you? Or have you ever noticed how scrolling through social media can make your own progress feel slow, small, or somehow not enough? You know, if we're being honest, I think we can all relate. I definitely can relate. Which is why for today's featured moment, these featured moments are past segments from previous podcasts that we want to highlight because you might have missed it. And they have profound insights, which is why we're highlighting them. So from this featured moment, I want to share a powerful segment from a longer conversation I had with Dr. Hal Herschfield. In this conversation, Hal and I explore why comparison often kills momentum and how it disconnects us from our future selves.

We also get into Dr. Hal Herschfield's research on future self-connection. And the surprising ways comparison can either strengthen or weaken that relationship. Now, a quick little note about Howell. Howell is a marketing behavioral decision-making and psychology professor. that's a mouthful, but it's an exciting mouthful at UCLA's Anderson School of Management. His research sits at the intersection of psychology and economics, and he examines how we can improve long-term decisions. Hal has been published in top academic journals, and he's written op-eds in the New York Times,

Harvard Business Review, the Wall Street Journal, and yada, yada, yada, all the big names. He was named the 40 most outstanding business school professors under 40 in the world. Huge achievement, by the way. And he's also the author of a book that is really, really good. great, I liked it. This is why I read the book and I invited him on the podcast initially. It's called Your Future Self, How to Make Tomorrow Better Today. All right, let's jump into this conversation with Dr. Howe about how the comparison trap can hijack our brain and ruin our life. But here's how we can stop measuring our life against other people with Howell's advice.

How dangerous is comparison and constant exposure of comparison of other people's journeys, which I feel is like so around us on social media, any insights that you have, even if you don't have data, how could that get in the way of future selfing? That's a great question. So I remember back when I was in graduate school when I was doing work and I remember I'd go into the office and my office mate, he was always, it looked like he was always working And he was always making progress. And I thought, man, I'm never going to make it.

Like, look at this guy. And I remember saying this to a mentor. And he said, don't like, you know, social comparison is the enemy of progress. And it's going to kill you because you can always find somebody who's doing better than you in these contexts, right? And so one of the lessons there was to make intrapersonal comparisons. You know what I mean by intrapersonal is make a comparison

within my own self. Where was I last week? Where am I going? And how might that impact my progress moving forward? Now, the question of whether social comparison will impact sort of these future self-pursuits. I think this is a deep one. There's actually some data that looked at, this was in the financial space. So I think we'd have to look at this in the health space, too. That's a question mark. But you'd say, oh, let me show you what other employees are saving. Yeah. The motivation. there. It's well-intentioned. I'm going to try to get you to save more. Well, the problem is, if I'm far below the mean, that doesn't make me want to catch up. It makes me want to just stop

because I say, I'll never get there. And it backfires in a way, right? Recent work came out with doctors. This is not their own health, but looking at their, what do you, what do you call it, efficacy with patients and efficiency with patients. Again, the study was looking at doctors' performance compared to others and getting these sorts of messages backfire to cause doctors to not even want to do the things they're supposed to be doing. Like your colleague is way better at delivering care than you are. Well, they wouldn't say quite like that, but they would show you, you know, where do you stand?

Sure. And that's really demotivating, right? And so I think there's open questions here to say, like, what's the better way to do it? Yeah. But you can quickly end up giving up. Yeah, it feels like one of those Goldilocks things too. I tend to find that comparison for people where you get their highlight reel on social media and you don't know them very well and you don't know all the ups and downs they got to.

It's easy to say, well, look at them. They got this thing, that relationship, that dream job, they've got that house. You don't know their journey and maybe they're even portraying in a way where it could even not be real for them. That's, there's a lot of that too. I find that that constant experience. exposure to that makes people feel like everybody's got to figure it out but me. And so there's fundamentally something wrong. And then there's the other side, which is, I have a men's group that meets every week.

And we meet on Thursday morning. We call it man morning. And we hike around here in LA. We go to Will Rogers. Hike is generous. We go on a walk. We walk by the beach. And one thing I've seen, we've been meeting for about almost eight years now.

Wow. When somebody in the group, and these are deep bonds that we have that are here, somebody in the group makes progress in an area in their life. they do something innovative in their business and they take it to the next level. And they're sharing genuinely because part of our two questions in the group are, tell us something you're celebrating this week and tell us something you're navigating, something sticky that's not working out. Guys are not usually good about opening up about either.

They're not usually great about patting themselves on the back, right? Even though there seems like there's all this bravado, they're not really good at that, and they're not getting up at opening up about what they're dealing with challenges. So when somebody opens up and says, you know what, I just want to share it. I've been working on this thing for a little while and I finally got it. I got that book deal. You know, there's an author in the group. That gives, and because people are there,

they understand how much effort, there's that story, that connection. They can imagine themselves in that person's shoes. They can imagine all the steps they took to get there. And now it feels more possible to them. Even one day, just on my own, not in like a super Excel format, I was just looking at like the income bumps inside of the group because we're all open and honest about that.

I was like, well, when one person does really well, It kind of lifts the group up. That's great. Other people see what's possible inside of it. So I see that as like the double-edged sword of comparison, which feels like it fits into your work, right? You know, as the holidays bring everyone together, it's a great time to make sure that your home

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And I mean, you think about being on a plane, you know, when you're going to a destination, you get the tailwinds, you get there faster. When you land, you say, oh, that was great. I'm glad I got there so fast, but you don't really give it much other thought. But in the opposite direction, when they say, oh, it's going to take us, you know, an hour and a half longer because there's tailwinds, you focus on that because it's salient, it's prevalent, you know what's happening. Think about that. The same thing happens with our own progress, right? Like we have tailwinds that push us along that help us make progress, whatever that may be,

our social network and whatnot. But what's really obvious to us is our own headwinds, the things that are obstacles that are pushing against us making progress. But what's interesting about this to me is that we don't see other people's headwinds, right? What we see is their progress. We see them, oh, wow, it looks like they got that book deal. That's awesome. That could be looked at his tailwinds. But in your case, what I love about that anecdote

is that you're making both the tailwinds and the headwinds transparent, which I think makes the social comparison not one of jealousy and a desire to give up, but rather, let me see how I can apply that to my own life and also recognize everyone's facing headwinds. Everyone also hopefully benefits from the occasional tailwind and how can I then bring that back to me. Yeah. And I think that just goes back to the idea of the more you can surround yourself with people that are genuinely headed in a direction of supporting kind of the things that are important to you and growing that, right? And have transparent conversation with them, like growth-minded people

who are working towards something in their life, the more you're constantly reminded about the idea that you're not alone, you're not the person who only deals with, you know, a headwind that derails you a little bit. Right. Other people deal with it too. And you still have the support to be able to talk it out. And it's still worthwhile to continue to pursue that goal. You know, it's a great point.

When I was working on the book, one of the things that I talk about in the book is that when we are trying to think about our own futures, one thing that we do is we simulate. you know, I think about what things are going to be like. We're really bad at that, it turns out. There's a lot of mistakes we make. It may be more useful to engage in what's known as surrogation, which is to look at other people's experiences and use them to make a prediction about our own lives,

especially people who've gone through something similar. Now, we're biased to not do that because we want to think of ourselves as unique. Yeah. Right? We want to think of ourselves, I'm the only one. That's dealing with. Who's dealing with this? The reality is, I mean, you don't have to look far, right?

You even said it with your group. You could probably figure out a bunch of guys in that group we're going through the same thing you're going through, whatever it is, good or bad. But we don't tend to think that way, but if we open ourselves up to recognizing that, it can make it a lot easier to see, what paths should I take? What should be my decision be?

Let me look at others who've gone through something similar. Once I first recognize that I'm not so unique. It's sort of like you're taking yourself. out of your body for a second, putting yourself in somebody else's body, and then seeing kind of just like the big picture pillars. Hey, you know, I have a cousin that wants to go to medical school, right? And he's like, oh my gosh, it's going to be so hard and this and like, I'm going to have study for this thing and that thing.

You're like super in the details. Yes, those things exist. But then he's looking at somebody else's life who he admires, let's say my brother-in-law, who's a cardiologist, he's like, okay, he did it. And okay, this was tough for him, but he still made it. And then he got to this point. and then this point it got a little easier. Right.

And so you're sort of taking yourself out of you and imagining that, hey, just with some hard work, it'll be tough, but it's worthwhile on the other end because look what they showed is possible. Yeah, I think that's right. And I love, you know, that example too. It's really useful to think about no one goes from wanting to go to med school to waking up the next day and you're a cardiologist. Right. Right.

And there's all those steps along the way. And it can be really hard to remember those, you know, as the person is on the other side of it. but if we can talk to folks and get them to think back to what those steps are and talk to people who kind of represent the intermediary. Right. Right? That can be one way to say, well, how do I go from A to B and connect the dots there?

Let's share some more practical examples here as we have our later half of the interview. What are some examples of ways that people can go from that psychological commitment to a more solid commitment that sort of really binds them in. So the earlier example that you shared, right? So going back, you have a goal, you have a dream, you want something to work on. Step number one, make it clear. It has to be definable and attach some sort of time range to it.

Right, right? Right. The more clarity, the better so you can actually see if you're headed in the right direction. So now that you've made that first aspect of clarity, and you want to ensure one aspect could be working with a coach. And sometimes people say, well, you know, coaches are expensive. There's a lot of different solutions that are there

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New research has come out that looks at not just the buddy system, but literally how are we approaching those goals. We sort of circled around before we're talking about rigid goals. The opposite of a rigid goal is a flexible goal. And what I mean by this, I'll get specific here. It's about how I pursue that goal. So if I have a goal of, let's say I have a goal of having three healthy meals for dinner, three healthy dinners a week.

That's a specific goal. That's great. But I can attack that in a rigid or a flexible way. So here's a rigid version of it. Monday, Wednesday, and Saturday, I will have a healthy meal. On Saturday, it's going to be with my friend, a friend, call it. And the other nights, that's open. I can do whatever.

The flexible version of that is three nights a week, I'll eat healthy. I don't know which one each week I'll figure it out, you know. Now, when it comes to recommending goal pursuit for others, people naturally recommend rigid systems. They know that that works. But when it comes to our own goal pursuit, we tell ourselves, you know, I can do it, I'll be flexible about it, but the flexibility doesn't work for us, right? Because if I say three nights a week, I'll eat healthy, well, each night's going to roll around. I'll do it. Tomorrow

would be a great night to do that, right? So it's not just the buddy system, but also thinking about how do I implement that? That would be, I would say, sort of the next practical step. Thinking about making sure that the literal implementation of these goals is rigid so that we don't stray from it in pursuing that goal. I'll give you another sort of practical tip, which is, I don't know if folks on your show before, I've talked about implementation intentions. But implementation intentions, I think, are a brilliant way to make sure you do the thing that you're setting out to do.

And again, this is getting specific. It's not me saying that next week I will work out or next week I will take care of the paperwork. It's saying on Wednesday at 11.30 a.m. I'm going to log into the portal I have at work or whatever it is to file the receipt. I mean, this is, you know, a boring administrative thing. Or next Wednesday at 5.45 p.m., I've signed myself up to go to this class, you know, at the gym, whatever it is. What I like about that is now I have an intention. I have an implementation for how I'm going to actually put this goal into practice.

It's really specific that way. And it's harder to go back on that once I've set that out and maybe even better to do when I've told somebody about it. So like that specific commitment at a date, a time, that's there on your calendar is going to be a much better way. So if somebody was saying that healthy meals example, or like in our community a lot, you know, I have a newsletter, I write about different sort of tips based on the people who come in here.

So we've had multiple people come up and talk about how protein, especially first thing in the morning, regardless of how people, eat, whether they're plant-based or they're not, is very satiating. It's one of the most satiating things that you can eat. And especially getting 30 grams of protein in particular, based on some of the research that some of our guests have done, first thing in the morning is a good way to kind of set the tone of the day, right? Right.

And so if that's your goal, you may say, okay, four days a week, if you're not doing it, no, automatically right now, and it's part of your lifestyle, you might say, okay, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, I'm going to start the morning off with protein. And here's a few list of recipes that I like. And I'm just going to sign one to each day and then have the groceries around and I'll make that thing that day. Obviously, you could take it a next step further. People can do meal prep. A lot of people do that. And it's like you're knowing that that specific thing is happening on that specific day, right? Which also brings up the larger point, which is some people set, they get very fired up. They hear new information. They hear this point.

podcasts and they're working on a lot of goals at the same time. Do you have any thoughts on that? Yeah. Well, hold on. I do, but I want to add one layer to the thing you just said because I think, so, you know, the four mornings a week, the 30 grams of protein, there's two other things I'd add to that. One is, you know, we can get more specific and say like, what is it? You know, what's the rest of the meal prep? That's great. Okay. But here's another one that I really like, which is research system by led by Marissa Sharif at Wharton. She talks about what's called goal reserves. And so the thing about this way, let's say I have a goal of having, you know, my starting off my day with protein, it's going to be four days a week, I do it this week. Awesome, I'm feeling good.

Next week, I set out to do it, but I only hit three days. We have two responses there. One is to push harder next week and the other is to kind of engage in a little bit of the what the hell effect and just give up because I retreat. Retreat. So she's suggested something called goal reserve. So let's say four weeks in the month, you know, roughly speaking, and I say I'm going to hit that protein target four days a week. But I'm going to give myself one week, maybe two weeks to have tap into my goal reserves. So let's say I don't hit the four days in week two.

I'm going to like take one from my imaginary stash and say, you know what, I did it this week. I've got it, you know, I'll make up for in the future, but that'll keep me on track. You know, Duo Lingo does this really well with, you know, if you're trying to learn a new language, and you get your streaks, you say, okay, I've been practicing Spanish for six, you know, whatever it is, 164 days straight, and then one day goes by, and I've just, like, forgotten a login.

Well, it's really defeating to be like, now I'm back to zero, but what do they do? They say, hey, do you want to retroactively put a freeze on your streak? And what's amazing about this is it's just a little trick, but it's a lot easier to maintain my momentum if I think, think that I haven't failed and I continue on there, right? So this idea of goal reserves I think is so good. And there's one other thing I'll do. And then we'll get back to the many goals question, but have a range.

So you could say four days a week or I could say somewhere between three days and five days. What's great about that is I'm going to strive for the five. Right. If I fail to meet it, well, I can look back and say, I did get three. And that's really good. Or how about let's start by getting three. Now that I've checked that off, I want to keep going. I want to get my five days.

But if I don't get it, well, at least I know that I fall back on the three days, right? So the goal ranges can be even better than a single point range or so a single point estimate, I should say, for goals. Yeah, a little bit of room inside of there. Yeah, exactly. And if you wanted to layer on top of that, some of the work that you've done with like the letter, right? How would you write the letter in the beginning, right?

Let's take a more audacious goal that somebody has, right? There's a lot of people here, which in itself has to be broken down into the nuances, but like people say, I want to lose weight. Many guests on my podcast have come in and said, first of all, obviously it's your right to lose weight. If you want to improve your body composition, are great. Everybody should be able to do that if that's something that you want to do, right? Generally, for a lot of people, if they're going to lose a little weight, you know, especially

if they're severely overweight, that's going to be better off for their help. That being said, obviously there's many ways to lose weight. The question is always, are you losing actual fat? you know, the hope is that you're not losing muscle mass. That gets into some of the specifics and usually working with a coach or somebody in the fitness space or nutritionists can help you break that down because you could lose weight, but it may not be the right type of weight that you want to lose, right? So setting all that aside, let's say somebody wants to lose weight and they wanted to take advantage

of this idea of the letter, right? Right. Would that be something that they just do in the beginning? Do they revisit it? Do they reread those letters over a period of time? What are the best practical aspects of that that you might want to share Yeah, it's a really good question. So some of this, I will freely admit, like, we don't know yet. And I think, I just need to sort of caveat that because I think that also means that there's

a lot of room for experimentation here. Right. Now, I think that it's probably really difficult to maintain a constant conversation with my future self, right? If it's like every time I'm about to be faced with a higher calorie, starchy meal versus something that's more protein-based and healthy, I'm saying, what would future me say? Like, that's going to get old real fast, right? That letter, that conversation, the exchange between me now and me and the future in the beginning,

I suspect that could be a good strategy to kind of get over the hump and start to take some action, right? But then there's this open question of, how often do I revisit that letter? Is it going to be like at milestones? Maybe, you know, after a month, do I say, okay, so where am I at? How am I doing in my progress along the way? to get into this version of myself I want to be? And does it make sense somehow to rewrite the letter

or change my goals along the way? Because maybe I realized I was too lofty, or maybe I wasn't lofty enough. I think that's a great space to sort of revisit there. But I would say your intuition is absolutely right, that this is a great thing to do at the beginning and to tie the ideal future self back to where I am right now and figure out what you're going to do.

What's the contrast? What's the contrast between me now and that ideal version of me? And also, and this is a concept researcher is called mental contrasting, figure out the contrast. What's the difference between me now and me later and what are the overcomable obstacles that stand in the way? I would hate to see somebody say, set out a version of their future self that's just totally unattainable. You know, there's no world in which I am going to become a pro basketball player next year. You know, and it's like for a variety of reasons.

And I might start that letter and say, wait, this is, I need to scrap this. That's not real, you know, but what is a realistic version? And what are the things that stay in the way and how can I take care of them? Yeah, so make it realistic. And then again, if it's a clear goal that can be measured, you're tracking your process. tracking your progress towards it, you're checking in every so often, and it could even be that that letter is something that you just frame on the wall, right? And you see it every so often and it reminds you what's there for you. You could combine that with a vision board, like I was

saying previously, and just have some images that are inspirational to you. The gym that I work out at, they're very big on sort of transforming your body in a very short period of time. And all over the gym, they have genuine people that are like case studies in testimonials that have worked through and work with their coaches on their method. And it's a reminder of what's, you know, possible, you know, the before and after. You know, when I was working on the book, I got a random email from a kid in up in Northern California, like 18-year-old kid. And he said when COVID hit, he, you know, like a lot of people got pretty depressed.

And he said he started eating like a diet that solely consisted of. I think it was like, I want to say, chick-fil-A and seriously. You know, it was something like that. I'm blanking on the details. He said he gained 30 pounds. And this is like not the version of himself he wanted to be. He was like doing like Zoom classes and all the stuff. You can imagine this well.

Yeah. He said he had come across in my work and he decided to print out a sort of ideal image of his future self that was like at his ideal weight and shape. And I'm not saying this will work for everybody, right? But in this particular case, he printed out. He put it in his bathroom mirror and he put it on his, mirror and he put it on his fridge. And he said, anytime he would late night go down to like get an ice cream bar, I guess that

was the third food category, he would see that image and it was sort of remind him of what his goals were. Now, I mean, I think for him that that works. He told me, this is anecdotal, that he ended up losing the 30 pounds. It wasn't just from not eating healthy, but from starting to exercise as well. Of course we know this. But what was nice about that, for him, that worked for other people. you know, I could imagine that if I'm constantly seeing the image, I might eventually ignore it, right?

So is there a way that I could make it so that the letter that's frame, I'm not seeing it every time I open up, you know, my dress or whatever it is. Is there somewhere I could put it where I'll come back to it occasionally, but not every day? Because what we don't want is for people to, you know, quote unquote, habituate and become sort of, you know. So used to it that doesn't feel fresh. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, what I'm really hearing from this is that, you know, you are primarily trying to highlight to individuals that, hey, look, there's this part of the brain. And this part of the brain thinks of the future version of you as distant, kind of like you think of somebody else. Right.

And we need to bring it a little closer to you because if you care about that future version of you and you want to make change now towards that, the closer, but not the same, the closer it is, the more likely you are to make. make those sacrifices and feel motivated. And that's often visual, storytelling, letter writing, that emotional component that weaves us. Here's a few experiments you've run, seeing a future, older version of you and imagining what your life is like, seeing maybe a before and after version of you that's out there, writing a letter that's a compare and contrast and hearing from your future version of yourself and you communicating to them. These are all the different tools that are out there.

Now, we may not know all the. different ways to combine them together to make change for your life. But you should know that they're there because if you don't, it's just going to be that much harder to make progress in the things that you want to accomplish in your own life. I think that's exactly right. And I would almost go even further and say, think about that future you as not you. It's another person, right? But it's another person that we may want to have a sense of responsibility, a sense of caring for, compassion, love, whatever it may be. But I want to also make sure that we don't frame it just as, you know, you sacrificing now

for that future you, that future self. But also, how can I sort of weave together my interests now and future me as interests? You know, a financial advisor I talked to, Paul Fenner, he'd said, it's not balance, it's harmony. And I love that concept because it's not just, you know, you know, you know, that concept because it's not just, me saying, let me, you know, sometime pay attention to my present self, sometimes to pay attention to my future self. But how can I think about both of their interests sort of coexisting? They're fully integrated.

All right. So I hope this conversation give you a new way to think about comparison and especially how it affects your relationship with your future self. Because as Howl's work reminds us, we never see other people's headwinds. We only see their progress, their wins and their outcomes. But when we surround ourselves with transparent, growth-minded people, comparison can actually become fuel instead of friction. And a huge point that I want to make here that Howe makes in this conversation is the most meaningful comparison is the interpersonal one, where you were last week versus who you are becoming. Now, if this conversation resonated with you, I highly recommend listening to the full conversation with Dr. Howell Hirschfield. In it, we discuss how to visualize

your future self, the fundamentals of goal setting, why it's important to pair visualization with conversation and so much more. You can find the link to that in the show notes below. And I'm also including a link to one of my past Try This Newsletters where I break down how simple exercise to manifest your future self. You can find the link to that free article in the show notes below. And as always, if there's someone in your life who you think could benefit from today's episode,

please share it with them. Until next time, thanks for tuning in.