Dial In with Jonny Ardavanis - Biblical Decision-Making 101 | The 7 P's That Lead to Peace & Confidence Costi Hinn and Jonny Ardavanis

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

Discover the 7 P's of biblical decision-making with Pastor Costi Hinn from his book "Walking in God's Will." Whether you're facing major life choices or everyday decisions, learn how to make choices w...ith confidence and peace. Pastor Hinn breaks down practical wisdom on developing a decision-making process, the importance of prayer, seeking wise counsel with prudence, clarifying your priorities, understanding biblical permissions, having long-term perspective, and finding true peace. Perfect for Christians of all ages looking to align their choices with God's will and live without regrets.Based on Costi Hinn's new book "Walking in God's Will: Demystifying God's Plan for Your Life and Make Decisions with Confidence" - available now wherever books are sold.Subscribe for more biblical wisdom on practical Christian living!Watch VideosVisit the Website Buy Consider the LiliesFollow on Instagram

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's talk through those seven Ps for no regret decisions. And this is applicable for anybody that's a teenager or a seasoned saint. Everybody makes decisions and we want to do so biblically speaking. So help us out. Walk us through it. Absolutely. First of all, understanding people have decision fatigue. They make a lot of decisions or they get pushed back. I want to just encourage folks and say conflict and disagreement is normal when making decisions. Not everyone is going to agree.
Starting point is 00:00:28 But if you're in a healthy church and nobody agrees, it's probably not something that the Lord has, or it's a serious, like, oh man. When God and the right people, I want to stress that, when God and the right people in your life, spiritually minded, spirit filled, godly wise counselors and friends who are around you, when those two areas are right,
Starting point is 00:00:50 you are going to feel two things, subjective peace and objective peace. Kosti, thanks again for sitting down. I'm looking at your book, Walking in God's Will, Demystifying God's Plan for Your Life and Make Decisions with Confidence. Kosti W., what is your middle name again? William.
Starting point is 00:01:13 William, okay. I thought it was gonna be something extra fun. Chapter six is Fundamentals for Every Fork in the Road. And what you get out in that chapter is everyday decisions, sometimes big decisions. Who will I marry? Should I take this job? Should I buy this car?
Starting point is 00:01:28 Only if you can afford it. But in this chapter, you have a series that's called seven Ps for no regret decisions. Now, personally speaking, I want to, as much as possible, live a life without regret, right? I want to be able, even with Paul, you know, Paul says, I live my life with a clean conscience, a clean conscience, a clean conscience over and over again. So let's talk through those seven Ps for no regret decisions. And this is applicable for anybody that's a teenager or a seasoned saint. Everybody makes decisions and we want to do so biblically speaking. So help us out, walk us through it. I was thinking through, as I was writing the book, studying, looking at scripture,
Starting point is 00:02:08 what are some of the things that you see in the Bible or some of the characteristics? And then I looked at my own life as well, just pastorally. I've made mistakes. You've made mistakes. We all make mistakes. And so I'm thinking, what are the lessons I've learned? And I'm not that old, but I'm old enough and have old people in my life so I can think through these things. And I started with process. Number one, what is our process? And the reason I started there is because I thought about how a builder needs blueprints first. You don't just set out and start building. You have to develop some sort of plan. You lay out. So before making any major decision, we are very impulsive. And in today's culture, we're very quick, instant gratification types of people. So what's our process? Slow down and develop the roadmap. Who are we going to talk to? I know we need to seek some wise counsel with
Starting point is 00:02:57 prudence, which will be another people talking about. I know we need to pray. Let's set some time aside for that. And we need to consider some of our priorities. And so we... Alright. So who are we going to talk to when we're talking about wise counsel? You want to think about all this beforehand. Here, are we in a timeline? Is this a two-month decision? Four-month decision? Are we laying out a plan for maybe the next 20 years, 30 years? Is this about a financial decision? Is this about a home? Is this about a child? Is this about a cancer diagnosis? Or is this about being asked whether or not you will pull the plug
Starting point is 00:03:28 on your loved one? What's our process? That's number one. The second P is, have we prayed? Which is connected to the first. It is. And I frame it as a question.
Starting point is 00:03:41 What is our process? Have we prayed? And the reason for that is, usually, the question needs to be asked because the answer is like, frame it as a question. What is our process? Have we prayed? And the reason for that is usually the question is, needs to be asked because the answer is like, well, no, or I pray without ceasing. Like I'm always praying. You know, have we paused and set aside a time where we're going to devote ourselves to seeking the Lord through prayer? And it's a Luke 22, 42 prayer. Lord, I really want this job. Lord, I really want this level of income. Lord, I really
Starting point is 00:04:05 want to marry her, marry him. I really want, I mean, moving there would be so fun. Canadians, so if there's snow, I'm like, oh, it'll be beautiful. We'll get all four seasons or whatever or not. And who knows? The food's great. The location, I love the beach, whatever these things are. You need to put those aside and say, Lord, nevertheless, not my will, but doors be done. We trust you. Open the doors you want opened. And a prayer attached to humility, close the doors you want closed. Or tell me when you're testing me to see if my resolve, you know, like not every closed
Starting point is 00:04:38 door is the Lord shutting down the opportunity. And that's why I like what you said. I think it's worth reading. You said time and time again, bad decisions are accompanied by prayerlessness. Yep. Perhaps the greatest downfall of our decision making process is not the air of a final destination, since God can turn any situation around for his glory and our good, but our lack of prayer about decisions before even making them at all. I like that. I mean,
Starting point is 00:05:01 I think people sometimes think their life is governed by the spirit. So the thinking in the spirit, but we sometimes exist, um, without the sense of dependency. If anyone lacks wisdom, James says, let him ask of God who gives generously. But sometimes people live their lives devoid of God's wisdom because they live their life devoid of prayer. So that's really good. Anything that asked there, I mean, you wrote down in here, a litany of different things to pray for, including God, I want your will to be done. Yeah. So let's say it's back to your example of a diagnosis
Starting point is 00:05:31 or someone dying and, you know, Lord, would you heal? And would your will be done? You know, all of those things are biblical prayers. You wrote down different references here. Anything else that's just to touch on regarding prayer, your second P? I think just you mentioned James on five. That's what I was going to mention is have we asked the
Starting point is 00:05:48 Lord for wisdom in this? Yeah. Even the prayer, Lord, please heal or Lord, please open the door or Lord, Lord, close the door. It's Lord, please provide the wisdom I will need and the discernment that I will need to exercise throughout this process. Lord, would you help me control my emotions? Would you give me a sense of calm? Would you remove anxiety? Would you keep my eyes on you? And would you give me the words to speak
Starting point is 00:06:13 so that along the road, when I forget, you would be my anchor? Those are all things that we want to pray. If you take that posture, I'm not saying that everything you do will be perfect and sinless, but you're going to have a foundation
Starting point is 00:06:28 to keep going back to. You got the blueprint. Yeah. And you said it. I mean, you have two great sections in here that peace or that prayer does bring that wisdom. But then you said that calm, you said in here, prayer brings peace.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yes. Right. So you want to be able to make decisions without paranoia. Yeah. And that prayer goes, I'm walking in God's will because I'm praying for God's will. And I want what he wants.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So, okay, that's really helpful. Now let's go to number three. What's your third P for decision-making? Have we sought wise counsel with prudence? And I love the characteristic of prudence. It's all over the book of Proverbs. I did a podcast one time called, You Need This Quality in Your Life. And the reason I didn't even want to
Starting point is 00:07:09 kind of tell people what it is because people see prudence and they think like, oh, it's Harry Turtleneck. Pride and prejudice. Jane Austen. Yeah. That's like...
Starting point is 00:07:16 They think of me like super noble. You're so modest. Look at you with your jacket and your pants down to your ankles. You know, modesty is attached to prudence, things of how people look. Even in high school, maybe,
Starting point is 00:07:30 I don't remember every era of what was, but when I was growing up, a girl who was super modest was called a prude. A girl who didn't party or people who didn't, they're a bunch of prudes. And it's used as a pejorative insult. The Bible frames it as a beautiful characteristic,
Starting point is 00:07:48 a trait we all want to have. A prudent person is slow in a good way, mindful, careful, thoughtful. They consider. And when we seek wise counsel, here's what we're doing. We're not just going to the peanut gallery in the echo chamber.
Starting point is 00:08:05 We're not just asking people who we know are going to be biased to us getting what we want or in cahoots with us. We're even going to go to those people that are going to tell us what we don't want to hear. So I'm going to come to you, Johnny, and say, hey, here's some thoughts. Here's a decision. What would be your wisdom? And I'm going to
Starting point is 00:08:21 ask and I'm not going to have a bunch of stuff on my plate that makes it limited and difficult for you to put anything on the plate. I'm going to ask, and I'm not going to have a bunch of stuff on my plate that makes it limited and difficult for you to put anything on the plate. I'm going to clear the plate. Yeah. And I'm going to let you speak into that. Why? Because no matter what,
Starting point is 00:08:34 even if you tell me something I don't want to hear, even if you tell me something I don't want to, I don't agree with, guess what? It's going to challenge my position. It's going to make me think. And if I push back and I say, well, no, that's true, but here's why, then I better be able to argue it from scripture. And even you being different than
Starting point is 00:08:51 me and what you've counseled makes me better and sharper. If I can't defend it biblically, well, prudence then derails my bad decision and gets me back on the tracks. And so people often don't ask because they don't want to be told. Yeah. And I think that's really helpful. And, you know, it's not a word we use in our everyday vernacular to say like, oh, that's a really prudent man. But I think even some of the verses you include go to show like the importance of implementing this quality by God's spirit into our life. I mean, it says prudence is the fountain of life in Proverbs 16, 22. And it's like, man, do you want to live a wise life? Do you want to live a life that matters? Well, prudence is the
Starting point is 00:09:30 fountain. And so, yeah, this is definitely something you need to understand. And then it says in Proverbs 19, 14, you wrote this in your book, a prudent wife is a gift directly from the Lord. You know, if you're walking through decision-making process, what is God's will, especially even relationally, one of the things that you need to ask about your potential future wife. Is she prudent? Does she make decisions with godly people? And the contrast in that verse is wealth and inheritance is from fathers.
Starting point is 00:09:55 But a prudent wife is from the Lord. Even contrasting money and stability financially. So think about that when you're choosing somebody to marry or you're even making decisions with a spouse. We don't make decisions just based on earthly things and earthly perspective, but a prudent wife is from the Lord, what God gives. So just a side note. Yeah. And it's all this reasoning going back, you know, and they're thinking and they're, it's not emotional, which is why you included the definition. It's the ability to govern and
Starting point is 00:10:19 discipline oneself by the use of reason. Yes. And for the Christian, it's not just our natural reason. It's the truth of scripture guiding us as we kind of grapple and think through things. So, okay, take us to number four. Okay. What are my top priorities? Okay. And I lay out four in the book. I talk about spiritual priorities.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I talk about financial priorities. I talk about relational priorities and I talk about eternal priorities. Now, here's what's really fun. You ready for this? Yes. One of the stories I use in there is someone close to me who I love, who comes to me one day and says this, I didn't want to name you and make it uncomfortable for you, but I tell the story. A guy in our church comes to me and says this, pastor, we're thinking about maybe moving to Tennessee. And I said, okay, talk to me. And he said, but we don't know if it's God's will. We really want to make sure it's God's will. And so I wanted to come talk to you privately before we make any
Starting point is 00:11:13 decisions and really ask. And when we're open, I'm not just telling you this as a formality, I really mean it. I said, okay, we're in Tennessee, the Franklin area. I said, okay, you and everybody else right now. He said, and I just need to be honest with you. And then I need to ask, is it sinful? I said, okay. He said, we don't really need to move there. We want to. So it's not a need, it's a want. I said, okay. I said, what do you want? He said, a little bit of acreage. I said, oh, here we go. Yeah. He said a cow, maybe some chickens, some grass, and to raise a family just in that area. I said, all right, why are you in sin? He said, well, I don't know. Are those really reasons that someone should move? And I said, well, let's
Starting point is 00:11:55 talk priorities. Okay. I have bigger questions than whether or not you're allowed to cut grass and enjoy Tennessee or have chickens and a cow. Have you thought through the priorities? What is this about? A nicer house, a bigger house, a different place, being in the South? Talk to me about this. Because people do the same thing. They move from different places to the Phoenix area,
Starting point is 00:12:15 Arizona, where we are. And we have our heyday of people exiting California and they're like, we're coming to God's country. We're coming to Arizona. It's conservative. Fry an egg on the sidewalk. Don't eat frying pans. And all of that. Everyone has their reasonings. And so I said, well, let's talk priorities. Number one, what are the spiritual priorities? God really doesn't often care as much about what
Starting point is 00:12:36 house you buy and what your furniture looks like. He really is interested in your heart. And so if you thought through spiritual priorities, he said, well, actually, that was the first thing we thought through, that there would be a good church there. We wouldn't be far from Stonebridge where Johnny pastors. And I know he's a good friend of yours. And so we thought, oh my God, so you use the friendship card now.
Starting point is 00:12:54 How am I going to say no to that? But then he said this, he said, and I've thought through even discipleship, not just a Sunday thing, not just being a show and go, but he has a Bible study like you do because he's in my men's group on Tuesday mornings at Big Two Toyota.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And he goes, and he has kind of the same thing they do with the men and they do this and they do that. And then we started thinking through this and thinking through this. And he had walked me through all of his spiritual priorities. I said, financially, it will be advantageous. He said, yeah, it actually could be. I said, what about relationships, friendships?
Starting point is 00:13:25 You don't isolate yourself to go live in a homestead and then you have no one and you realize, man, we probably should, he said, we've thought through that as well. And so he went through everything. And then eternally, he said, just being a good steward, being a part of a church in discipleship. And I said, brother, then go make your decision.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I mean, it's not sin at all. And he had come out of Roman Catholicism. And it's very interesting. As we dialogue, I said, what makes you think you're in sin? It's very interesting because I'm going to write a book on God's will. It's funny we bring this up.
Starting point is 00:13:51 What makes you feel like you're in sin? He said, well, I mean, leaving sometimes or, you know, if the pastor doesn't sign off on it or this or this. He was very crippled by legalism and by that, but also the idea that the enjoyment of life or liking where you live is somehow sinful. And priorities help us sift through the
Starting point is 00:14:16 rubble. At the same time, if a husband and wife are in a conversation and she's like, or he's like, well, I just want to be here because it's affluent and it's this and it's that. And it's like, well, have you thought about a church? Well, no, but we'll find a church. We'll work that out. Or hey, have you thought about the long-term effect on your family from this decision or this? If you make decisions based on high salary
Starting point is 00:14:37 and high demographic income or the median income or the fanciness of this or even weather, be careful that you haven't put that above the spiritual priority. Are those bad things? No. Are you allowed to love that? Yes. But don't for a second divorce the spiritual priorities from those things. And that's how I think people get into trouble with their priorities. They put the financial, maybe even the relational. Well, my friends are there.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Hey, well, have you thought through that? They're a part of the cult, but yeah. Exactly. So the portion on what are our top priorities helps people think through those things. Now, one last caveat to this is for pastors, it might be a little different for someone in ministry. People say, so you chose Arizona?
Starting point is 00:15:25 I mean, you like it that hot? No, not for four months of the year. It's really hot, but makes you a better evangelist because you're like, man, hell is even hotter than this. I really should share the gospel with people. When you're freezing in a igloo, practically, minus seven out in the Nashville area, are you like, oh, frostbite, why did I move?
Starting point is 00:15:44 No, there is a bit of providence in all of these things where God guides his servants and missionaries. You know, some of that even though involves priorities as you're saying, Lord, I want to serve you. I want to do this and this and this. Where you open the doors, I will go. So we want to think through that as well.
Starting point is 00:16:01 And there's nothing wrong. You mentioned, you know, spiritual, financial, relational and eternal priorities in here. And you said it And there's nothing wrong. You mentioned spiritual, financial, relational, and eternal priorities in here. And you said it, there's nothing wrong with someone going like, I want to buy a home. No. I live in San Diego or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I mean, I love San Diego, but hey, this is a practical thing to move to Central California from down south because I can buy a home. It doesn't even have to be out of state or it could be a myriad of other things. But those aren't bad things. It'd be like me saying to you, oh, you just picked Nashville because you want to become a country music star.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And you're like, that's a different episode. I don't know what to do with that. Or people, one guy said to me like, oh, it must be nice. Are you picking Arizona for where you're going to pastor long term because you can finally buy a house
Starting point is 00:16:44 because you lived in California and play golf at the T. I'm like, no. It's great if the housing market's better, but no. But also as though those things are sin. Yet for the missionary who goes somewhere and suffers, that's
Starting point is 00:16:59 God's will too. Very important. Think through priorities and it will help. Now, that particular family didn't end up moving. I was like, okay. And they said, maybe we'll revisit it another time. And I said, well, I hope you churched it. We did. If you don't go to Johnny's. Rude. I said,
Starting point is 00:17:16 why? And they said, you know, we thought through it and it may not be, it's just not it. We didn't like that pastor over there. We changed our mind. No, they love you. But they ended up saying, we're happy here and we're content. And we're going to just wait on the Lord and visit it in another season. And it's like no one sinned and no one was mad.
Starting point is 00:17:33 It's just simple. So they came in and asked you, what are your thoughts on this? I said, what are your priorities? Well, and then that kind of leads you to your fifth P, right? Because I'm reading, has God given us permission? Part of the way he gives us permission is through the people in our life, right? Yeah. So just maybe expound on that, that fifth P is, has God given us permission?
Starting point is 00:17:53 I thought this one was really, it's important. So maybe go off on that one. I would like to distinguish two things. There are God's explicit commands and things he tells us to do. You and I cannot for a salary or for weather or housing markets, location or friends ever shirk on those things. God has commanded them. He's given us permission with other things, but he's commanded or prohibited these things. So we want to be clear there. But then there's all these other aspects of Christian
Starting point is 00:18:23 liberty. If God's given you permission, you can think through that in a decision and not get crippled by it. And that's where I think judgmentalism, legalism, and peer-to-peer criticism comes in. Because people love to ascribe or put motives to decision. And look, when God's given us permission, we don't need to feel gaslit by anyone. We don't
Starting point is 00:18:45 need to let anybody start saying, well, you really shouldn't have that or you really shouldn't have that. And well, you're just for doing this because this. Look, God's given me permission. I'm allowed and I'm allowed to enjoy these liberties. And so I want people to feel that freedom. Yeah. Because maybe, just maybe in this entire list of seven Ps, the one that creates the most relational issues is when we've made a decision, we've followed God's commands, we've been through a good process with it, we've established priorities,
Starting point is 00:19:16 and we know God has given us permission and other people don't like the decision. And so they start to attack or they start to do this, or they start to do this. And so in thinking through that, we really have to, we can try to work those things out with those relationships. That's a good thing. Well, here's why I try to explain the why. But when God's given us permission, you don't need to stay up at night feeling anxiety over what people are going to
Starting point is 00:19:37 think. And that's back to people pleasing and being all worried about this, that, and the other. We can say, look, we've got some freedom here. And so we want to obey God's commands with our decision-making. Absolutely. Which is an important place to start because if you don't start there and you say, well, God's given me permission to marry an unbeliever. You're like, well, no, he hasn't.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Everyone else is against me for no reason. Johnny, I feel like God's okay with this. I feel like God is telling me to this. And then when we get into the last one in a couple of minutes, but peace, people will say, I don't care what you think, Johnny. I feel like God is telling me to this and then when we get into the last one in a couple of minutes but peace people will say I don't care what you think Johnny I feel peace about this yeah I think it's worth clarifying that if no one in your life agrees
Starting point is 00:20:12 you're wrong you know I mean anything obviously you can go to there's ditches you say on both sides right but if you're in a healthy church and nobody agrees it's probably not something that the Lord has or it's a serious, like, oh man. Yeah, maybe the Holy Spirit wants you to pause
Starting point is 00:20:29 and make that a P, because then we're going to have 14 of them. But, you know, I think of elders in plurality. There's another P, we're in trouble. I think of this with decision. Let's say in a marriage, and we're kind of hybriding over to the P side, but we'll get there in a second.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Let's say in some of your relationships, you can look and you're like, I'm obeying God and he's giving me permission. I don't care. And there's not a sense of unity and peace in that decision. You know, that's actually sometimes how the Holy Spirit slows us down to get consensus, to seek counsel. And so if you think you have permission, okay, and you don't see any commands you're breaking, okay. But if you hadn't done the other Ps and sought wise counsel and prayed, you're just jumping to it
Starting point is 00:21:10 because you read the scripture and it says this, cool, I'm doing it. I had a feeling, yeah. You're going to end up in trouble. Yeah, and that's helpful. Well, we were kind of going from five to seven a little bit interchangeably, but six is right there in the middle.
Starting point is 00:21:22 So give us six. Yep, it's do I have long-term perspective? And that is to think about how our decisions will not just impact today, they will have a ripple effect tomorrow and long-term in the future. Am I making this decision with long-term perspective? Which is a good thing.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Sometimes you can overdo that. You've already talked about that. Like if I make this decision and I go down the wrong road forever, you know? Yeah. So, but there is a healthy, you're saying, like thinking through the ramifications of every decision. There's a ripple effect. There is. And I think with a lot of relationships, maybe jobs, perhaps financial decisions, planning, thinking about the long-term impact is very healthy. It causes us to think, if this goes the distance, or if this were what my life was in 20 years or 15, or they'll say, is this a forever thing? That's even considering the long-term perspective. Long-term perspective could be that I make a decision that's the right decision for
Starting point is 00:22:21 the next two years. It's a for now. I have a friend, older friend, who always says it's okay to say for now. I mean, a lot of times in church or in business or in life, people really want us to say, oh, this is what we're doing and it'll never change because people don't like change. And there's just a few things
Starting point is 00:22:37 that are absolutes in life. You're folding your arms as you say this. I mean, this has got you upset. I'm very, my daughter's been watching a lot of Little House on the Prairie. Hey, we're watching Little House on the Prairie. I'm cross. I'm cross.
Starting point is 00:22:48 You know, thinking through this... I love Charles Inks. Yeah, totally. But death and taxes are absolute. And the third thing that's absolute is change in life. And so we can say for now, but a long-term perspective says, what if it adjusts in two years?
Starting point is 00:23:04 What if something's different? Have I left room for that? Is my heart open? Or if this was life, could I live with it? Yeah, I could. I'll tell you one funny story, and you'll know this because we've talked about this before,
Starting point is 00:23:17 but sometimes in life, we make these big statements when we're younger, and I had this mentality, and you've even helped me with this. We talked through some of this as friends. But you were, before being a pastor, you were in business and you understand economics and finance and different things.
Starting point is 00:23:31 And I was one of those guys that was like, pastors don't retire, we expire. Like, you know, retirement accounts. Is that something Piper says? Yeah, I got it from somewhere. And, you know, I don't need to worry about the long term. I'm just going to preach till I die and blah, blah. And so I had all these things and they impacted my financial decisions. And I wasn't... Somebody was like, hey, do you ever think about retirement account or
Starting point is 00:23:52 about financial planning? I'm like, ha, whatever. I don't need any of that. I'm laying up treasure in heaven. That's right. And so one day, an older man sat me down and said, hey, so that's noble. Love it. Love your zeal. Good for you. I was in the prosperity gospel and now you're not going to have a penny to your name, but who cares? Because you're the real one. Great. Did you know the Bible's full of wisdom about managing money and thinking of the future? And there's this passage in Proverbs 6, 6. I'm like, oh yeah, the ant. He's like, yeah. And what does the ant do? I'm like, plans ahead.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I'm like, this old man rebuked me lovingly, privately, and said, you're not considering the long-term perspective. You need to think about your wife, your children. Proverbs says a good man, not a bad man, a good man leaves an inheritance for his children and his children's children. Stop saying like it's a bad thing for pastors, men, ministers, business,
Starting point is 00:24:43 anyone to be thinking about the future in retirement. Okay, so you don't live. Okay, you want to give it all away? That's your business. And you can do that if you want to. But the ability to plan and think about the future is something God's given you. And it's a providence in first world America where you live.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And the fact that you're not thinking long term is more than anything, just evidence of immaturity. And I was like, ooh, gut punch. And I love that kind of stuff. And I remember talking with you as a buddy and just going, do you think about this stuff? You're like, absolutely. In college, a guy taught me about economics
Starting point is 00:25:13 and these principles. And I never thought this way and now I do. So I even want to challenge people to think the long-term perspective is a discipline decision. You're putting aside your zeal and that could even influence like your decision to go somewhere or do something or I'm going to go to this school or I'm going to that or I'm going to date this person. I don't know if I'm going to marry him,
Starting point is 00:25:34 but yeah, I'm going to have a little fun. Like, hold on a minute. Your zeal now, your inability to think about the long-term future is attached to immaturity. And whether that's somebody who was thinking like I was about with a bit of a cocky attitude, like I don't care about retirement, I'm not this, I'm this. Or somebody who's making very foolish decisions right now with their sexual purity and dating and playing the field and thinking, well, whatever, I'll get serious here. Yeah. We need to be thinking, are my decisions now going to have a positive or negative effect in the future? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Delayed gratification is one of God's great, great callings to the Christian. So you've given us six, you know, these Ps, and there's a lot of truth there to implement. And I think the seventh P is almost the result of the first six, right? It is. And you've touched on that.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And as we land the plane, it's make decisions with peace. Is that how you say it? And maybe just talk about peace and the decision-making process. Because sometimes decisions are so, they're difficult, right? But how does maybe implementing these biblical principles, and that's really what they are. Sometimes people say the Bible is not very practical. The Bible is immensely practical.
Starting point is 00:26:48 We just derived, we just kind of sucked out certain principles from scripture. Oh, yeah. So just talk about peace and encourage someone who feels maybe a lack of peace as they make decisions every day, sometimes big ones, sometimes small ones. But the compounding low-grade anxiety almost from making decisions every day really robs us of peace at times. So just maybe touch on that seventh one. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:10 First of all, understanding people have decision fatigue, make a lot of decisions, or they get pushed back. I want to just encourage folks and say, conflict and disagreement is normal when making decisions. Not everyone is going to agree. But when God and the right people, I want to stress that, when God and the right people in your life,
Starting point is 00:27:32 spiritually minded, spirit filled, godly, wise counselors and friends who are around you, when those two areas are right, you are going to feel two things, subjective peace and objective peace. Subjective peace is this internal confidence, a feeling of calm that no matter what happens, I'm in God's will. It's subjective. Objective peace though is still to say, you know, my pastor has spoken into this
Starting point is 00:28:02 with the word of God. My wife and I are completely aligned. My friends who can say anything to me, they have and I've processed it. And I know without a shadow of a doubt that God's providence is ordering my steps. And so I am going to move forward. I have an internal and an external peace
Starting point is 00:28:21 and I can identify those key metrics. And so I want to encourage folks that if they are experiencing a lack of peace in decisions to ask why. Why? And maybe, just maybe, and I unpack this in the book, and I want to warn people about this. Maybe, just maybe, your lack of peace is rooted in people pleasing. You're so worried about obeying and pleasing everyone else, and you've not considered obeying God. Maybe that's the source of lack of faith. Maybe in a marriage, one spouse in particular is demanding their own way and they want what they want
Starting point is 00:28:53 and they want it their way. Or one spouse is trying to obey God and the other says, well, I don't want that because they have more of an earthly agenda and there's no peace. Start asking why. Maybe get some counsel, maybe pray. Or in cases like that, realize that the Holy Spirit is bringing up this disagreement and
Starting point is 00:29:11 a lack of alignment so that you too can go back to God's word and get aligned and move forward with unity. There's a litany of reasons. But if we follow a biblical process, this isn't some silly guarantee. Right? Yeah. The guarantee. Which is your first P, right? Yeah. The roadmap. It is.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Biblically, you're going to have peace internally, externally. You're going to be able to make decisions. No regret decisions is what I would call them. Like Paul. Clear conscience. And confidence. With confidence.
Starting point is 00:29:39 You don't have to waffle. I don't know. And I think that's a gift to people. Honestly, it's like an interesting word to move forward and make decisions with confidence. But I don't want, you know, and I think that's a gift to people. You know, honestly, it's like an interesting word to move forward and make decisions with confidence. But I don't want to live a life constantly wondering, you know, if I, am I not in God's will because I made X, Y, Z decisions. So this is really helpful. I just want to review you. There's a process.
Starting point is 00:30:01 The second P was, is it prayer? Have we prayed? Have we prayed? Third P. We sought wise counsel. Counsel. Third is a prayer. Have we prayed? Have we prayed? Third P. We sought wise counsel. Counsel. Prudence. What are our top priorities?
Starting point is 00:30:10 You mentioned spiritual, financial, relational, and eternal priorities. Yep. And the fifth would be. Has God given me permission? Yep. We got some Christian liberty there. Or has he commanded or prohibited other things?
Starting point is 00:30:22 And then do I have long-term perspective? Yeah. Thinking ahead. Don't think of today. Think of tomorrow. And the last. And then do I have long-term perspective? Yeah, thinking ahead. Don't think of today, think of tomorrow. And then last, do I have peace? Yeah, well, Kasi, so helpful and excited for people to read this. You know, obviously we're high level right now,
Starting point is 00:30:34 kind of flying over the main themes, but this question is the theme of everyone's life, really. Like I want to live in accordance with God's will. He saved me, so I want to maximize my accordance with god's will he saved me so i want to i want to maximize my life and invest it not spend it and so thank you walking god's will available march 11th and uh appreciate you bro grateful for you man

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